Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Kerry NFL Network through the
Speaker 1: off season. Yeah, welcome to another edition to Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens. I come to
Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: Patrick Claibon. Now, did we carry NFL Network anywhere? No?
Speaker 1: Are we on NFL Network? Yes? In fact, all three
Speaker 1: of us are on NFL Network. A whole bunch, um.
Speaker 1: And so before I throw two boys, let me just
Speaker 1: really quickly go through this because the season is less
Speaker 1: than two weeks away, now ten days away, really eleven
Speaker 1: something like that before the Thursday night game. Here's what's
Speaker 1: to come on this program. How's this? Greg? A little
Speaker 1: set up just to get people caught up what's going on?
Speaker 1: I like it today Today, Today, we're gonna do some
Speaker 1: season predictions. Okay, We're gonna go through um an email
Speaker 1: that a colleague of ours, Gennaro Police as a police um,
Speaker 1: sends out every year and make a bunch of predictions
Speaker 1: for one that's fun. We will have another special guest
Speaker 1: on the show on Thursday, Steve Wish, and next week
Speaker 1: we will do our annual Sandwich Props are Week one
Speaker 1: preview our week one recap the Thursday night opener and
Speaker 1: the debut we believe of our new two hour around
Speaker 1: the NFL broadcast and that's a bum bom. And that's
Speaker 1: in addition to the return of Power Rankings with Me
Speaker 1: and Money, NFL game debut with Rosie as some call him,
Speaker 1: never me Hawk, and Cynthia and yes, Patrick Claiban with
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy program. How about that getting the plugs
Speaker 1: out early. That's a lot. We're doing a lot of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I will say it's a it's one organism right
Speaker 1: there there. We're all in and so we're all carrying
Speaker 1: it together. But are fundamental your pillars, right, there's some likery.
Speaker 1: We're getting more to carry these days. So that's that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of us. You know, we complained sometimes.
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a sign of encouragement. We're
Speaker 1: certainly asked to do more than we were years ago.
Speaker 1: That that's all three of us, because you're on Fantasy
Speaker 1: Live almost every day now, right, yeah, four days this week, foys,
Speaker 1: how about that? And you know it would be easier
Speaker 1: to carry um what we need to carry up the
Speaker 1: hill of the NFL season with Mark Cesler. Unfortunately, Mark
Speaker 1: not back with us yet, as you've probably told. But
Speaker 1: sometimes markets quiet on the show and maybe he would
Speaker 1: pipe in right here, but he's not. Unfortunately, Um, as
Speaker 1: you know if you follow the show, Mark has been
Speaker 1: dealing with issues with blood clots. He's been in and
Speaker 1: out of the hospital as they're trying to make things, uh,
Speaker 1: figure things out and the path going forward. He's in
Speaker 1: he's in good spirits. You have to believe me on this.
Speaker 1: He's going in the right direction. But it's a complex
Speaker 1: issue here and he's uh kind of the men at
Speaker 1: home this week. So we're hoping to have him back
Speaker 1: for week one, but no promises, you know, that's the goal.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like what Jerry Jones says about Dak Prescott. Uh,
Speaker 1: if week one was today, he'd be on the field.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Mark would be on the podcast
Speaker 1: off week one was today. But not to make light
Speaker 1: of it, we miss Mark. We want him back. We
Speaker 1: know you're the listener are worried about him, but just
Speaker 1: know that he is on the mend and he'll be
Speaker 1: back with us when the time is right. But the
Speaker 1: time is not right now. We we have a lot
Speaker 1: of time to get sick of each other and spend
Speaker 1: way too much time virtually, but then in person soon
Speaker 1: enough in studio, and so Mark will be back for that.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all happened. Yes, get will soon. He's
Speaker 1: on some powerful uh drugs right now that I told
Speaker 1: him to make save some from the middle of the
Speaker 1: season for the rest of us, because oh is it okay?
Speaker 1: Justin Graver filling in for Erica Tamposy who was on
Speaker 1: a tropical vacation right now, which is impossible, Justin, can
Speaker 1: you pop out a second. It's impossible that our producer
Speaker 1: is in Hawaii right now. This is essentially the season's
Speaker 1: already started. How does this happen? Who green lit it?
Speaker 1: And was there any way you could have stopped at, Justin?
Speaker 1: Or maybe this is what you wanted because look at
Speaker 1: you now talking into the mike on the podcast exactly right. Well,
Speaker 1: Eric is my boss now, so technically there's no way
Speaker 1: for me to stop carefully, yeah, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: the last little week we have this little fun dead
Speaker 1: zone now with the way the preseason moved around, So
Speaker 1: if this is her last chance to get away for
Speaker 1: a second, maybe, I mean, what dead zone we've got
Speaker 1: like six shows this week. An exceedingly diplomatic answer from
Speaker 1: Justin there, I support and understand. I guess the answer
Speaker 1: here is that Erica might be in her own little
Speaker 1: gray zone where she doesn't have a boss right now.
Speaker 1: And uh that's how this happened. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: Erica will be back next week. We hope Mark's back
Speaker 1: next week. Patrick, as you did on the network show
Speaker 1: last week and again today, and I think next week
Speaker 1: as well. You're you're helping us out and we are
Speaker 1: so thankful for that. And Greg here, you and I, buddy,
Speaker 1: we're just we're just the rocks, you know, We're just
Speaker 1: we're here. Hopefully. The podcast gods have been coming at us,
Speaker 1: but we're not taking it lying down. Neither's Mark. We're
Speaker 1: fighting back. And as Debbie hands this is known to say,
Speaker 1: don't spit in the sky. Let's do some news. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to the new West Coast home of the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm Colleen Wolf and it is my sincere pleasure to
Speaker 1: introduce you to the future. If she's gonna kill me.
Speaker 1: One more thing to note. I asked for Justin to
Speaker 1: cut that because after basically eighteen months of us looking
Speaker 1: into laptops to do this show. We are coming now
Speaker 1: to the end of the line on some level, maybe
Speaker 1: not permanently. I think this has been proven to be
Speaker 1: successful enough that will keep it in our back pocket
Speaker 1: when we need it. Uh these remote shows, But Greg, come,
Speaker 1: let's say week two, we're gonna be in there brand
Speaker 1: new studio. It sounds like, uh in Inglewood at Hollywood
Speaker 1: Park doing the show as intended together, And I'm really
Speaker 1: looking forward to that in a new podcast studio. You know,
Speaker 1: Keisha is at work today, like a lot of employees,
Speaker 1: um going to their first day of work. She she's
Speaker 1: been there before, but a lot of people are going
Speaker 1: to their first day of work in Inglewood. Even more
Speaker 1: people are coming next week. And yeah, that's the plan.
Speaker 1: If we don't do it by the first Sunday Week
Speaker 1: one show of the year, I think we'll be in
Speaker 1: there the next week after that for a week too.
Speaker 1: So I am looking forward to this show. It's like
Speaker 1: it's a little bit better being able to be in person.
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know, I don't want to slight
Speaker 1: the shows we've done over the last year and app
Speaker 1: but it's got to be better to I think we've
Speaker 1: gotten very good at this type of program. But I
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's no substitution for
Speaker 1: being together and on the production side. Uh, and I
Speaker 1: do a lot of that with Erica, Like that's much
Speaker 1: more difficult and harder to pull off. So the idea
Speaker 1: of being all together in the like state of the
Speaker 1: art studio is something to be very excited because I
Speaker 1: think it's good for us, it's good for the listeners. Um,
Speaker 1: let's get for Claibon. You know, we'll have Claibon in
Speaker 1: the studio. My my propensity to turn into a little
Speaker 1: spinning disc where nobody can hear me and I can't
Speaker 1: hear you, guys. That doesn't happen in person. It's just
Speaker 1: my my slow mental calculation is the only thing that
Speaker 1: happens in person. It has been quite a ride, these
Speaker 1: eighteen months of computer life. Let's get into it. Let's
Speaker 1: start with what's going on down in New Orleans. New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints practicing at the home of the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: right now. Um, and for three days this week after
Speaker 1: evacuating because of Hurricane Ida, which made landfall south of
Speaker 1: New Orleans on Sunday. Category for Hurricane um at wins
Speaker 1: of a hundred and fifty miles per hour. Very very
Speaker 1: dangerous stuff, obviously, And the Saints had a preseason finale
Speaker 1: that they moved up and then canceled entirely. Uh. And
Speaker 1: now they are in Texas preparing for their season. And
Speaker 1: this comes, of course Claibon sixteen years exactly in fact,
Speaker 1: after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and forced the team
Speaker 1: to move for the two thousand and five season. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about that right now in the in
Speaker 1: the situation, but very serious, very dangerous, and the Saints
Speaker 1: are juggling their schedule as a result. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: memories are too fresh on everybody's minds. Um, you don't
Speaker 1: want to think about two thousand five too much when
Speaker 1: it comes to a storm in the Gulf, but it's
Speaker 1: hard not to write. And and you've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of people reaching out. Um there there's more connectivity in
Speaker 1: the world now. People are able to ask for help
Speaker 1: and maybe find places to help a little bit better.
Speaker 1: I know power was out in all of Orleans Parish
Speaker 1: last night, and it still is in a significant number
Speaker 1: of places. But but it's been it's been good to
Speaker 1: see Um, you know, we had some players tweeting out
Speaker 1: some mutual aid sources, uh, for people to get help.
Speaker 1: And um, you know, as much as football is, our
Speaker 1: is is what we do and it's what keeps the
Speaker 1: lights on for us. Um, it's it's hard not to
Speaker 1: prioritize the people they're down there that are dealing with this,
Speaker 1: especially in and on the coast of Louisiana and Mississippi
Speaker 1: as well. It's just it's it's tough to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you are. You do get flashbacks just thinking of
Speaker 1: even the the NFL relation to it that right now
Speaker 1: they're in Texas, you know, back then they spent the
Speaker 1: season in San Antonio. They're in Dallas that Saints are practicing.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton said on Monday, you know, there's a strong
Speaker 1: chance that will be preparing for, you know, our Week
Speaker 1: one game somewhere other than New Orleans. But it's it's
Speaker 1: so early as we tape this on Monday to know
Speaker 1: what the damage is there, because people are just starting
Speaker 1: to get out and starting to do rescues in the
Speaker 1: power and it seems like a total mess. And our
Speaker 1: our thoughts are with every everyone down there. So so
Speaker 1: many people are affected in in and out of football,
Speaker 1: but just from the the Saints is perspective, yeah, it
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if you know, they have to
Speaker 1: start doing some adjustments to where where they're practicing, where
Speaker 1: they're playing, and everything else, because that's it's not the
Speaker 1: priority down in Louisiana right now. In other news, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners doesn't sound like we're any closer
Speaker 1: to knowing what their quarterback situation is because Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: said that rotating Jimmy Garoppolo and Trey Lance will quote
Speaker 1: always be an option this season. Here's what Kyle Shannon
Speaker 1: had to say on opposing defenses potentially dealing with two quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: whether it's in their mind or not. Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's up to them. But we've got two guys
Speaker 1: who can play, and um, while we've been doing in
Speaker 1: practice a little bit, wanted to do out there in
Speaker 1: the game, and I think it's always gonna be an option.
Speaker 1: He is referring, of course, to the preseason finale where
Speaker 1: Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo traded reps over the first twenty
Speaker 1: four snaps of the game. This is murky as it gets.
Speaker 1: Greg how do you diagnose what's happening in San Francisco
Speaker 1: right now? I think Kyle is having some fun in
Speaker 1: that third preseason game, you know, thinking about Week one
Speaker 1: in the Detroit lines, thinking about that at just like hey,
Speaker 1: get ready, because not only were they rotating, but they
Speaker 1: were they were showing some things. They were doing these
Speaker 1: QB power traps, like they were showing what you can
Speaker 1: do with Trey Lance as your quarterback in terms of
Speaker 1: the read option, and he was mostly handy it off.
Speaker 1: You wonder if he was almost told like handed off,
Speaker 1: like let's not get too crazy here in the preseason.
Speaker 1: But the crazy part was they replaced them twice on
Speaker 1: the goal line with Jimmy Garoppolo, which is like the
Speaker 1: opposite sort of what you would expect to happen. One
Speaker 1: of those times Jimmy runs it in. One of those
Speaker 1: times they didn't score with Jimmy in there, then they
Speaker 1: bring Lance back in. Who does run it in? And uh,
Speaker 1: I really think, based on Jimmy Garoppolo's deportment last week
Speaker 1: leading into that game and what Kyle Shannon has said,
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Garoppolo will be starting Week one and that
Speaker 1: we that Trey Lance will be playing week one, and
Speaker 1: I do think that's gonna be the the early plan
Speaker 1: and and they're just gonna see how it goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not just having fun with with Dan Campbell and and
Speaker 1: uh Aeron Glennon in the Lions staff, but having fun
Speaker 1: with us as well. Right. We ran the sound last
Speaker 1: night after the game of Kyle Shanahan seemingly saying right,
Speaker 1: Kyl Shannon, who famously was upset right at Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: for not laminating the play sheet on a rainy day,
Speaker 1: Right Sean mc a Kyl Shannahan, who has meticulously planned everything,
Speaker 1: says last night at the podium, Um, hey, you know
Speaker 1: I was just playing it by ear. You know, Jimmy
Speaker 1: go In, Trey go In, he's acting as though that
Speaker 1: he's just making this decision on a whim, just to
Speaker 1: kind of feel it out. And so, yeah, Kyl Shannon's
Speaker 1: gonna do what he wants, but he's also gonna have
Speaker 1: fun with us. He the whole, this whole entire offseason,
Speaker 1: he's maintained it doesn't behoove him to say who the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback is going to be. And I think ultimately
Speaker 1: what he truly showed us yesterday it doesn't matter. He's
Speaker 1: gonna call the points. He's gonna get guys open, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna score points no matter what. I do want
Speaker 1: to point out that I think the Lances preseason in
Speaker 1: that game specifically supported this idea that Lance needs a
Speaker 1: little more cooking, a little more practice time. He's made
Speaker 1: a lot of mist aches. He does seem to run
Speaker 1: after the first read is taken away. He's also made
Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of amazing plays and seems like an
Speaker 1: awesome runner. So if there was any thought of, like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go into it with Jimmy, but use Trey, I
Speaker 1: think that the preseason Lance has had sort of has
Speaker 1: supported that. That's like, Okay, we don't need to play
Speaker 1: in Week one. He's probably gonna start eventually this season,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to be right now. And the
Speaker 1: football gods laugh at any plans that are made because,
Speaker 1: as we know, Jimmy Garoppolo has hurt all the time.
Speaker 1: So even if Kyle she And has this like grand
Speaker 1: vision for using both guys and just turning the offense
Speaker 1: into a nightmare for defensive coordinators, we'll see if both
Speaker 1: guys are healthy and able to do such a plan.
Speaker 1: But very interesting and we'll continue to track that. Speaking
Speaker 1: of the football gods, they did not smile upon j K. Dobbins,
Speaker 1: the second year Ravens running back who was tackled awkwardly
Speaker 1: on a screenplay against Washington in the preseason. Finally for
Speaker 1: the Ravens suffered a torn a c l out for season.
Speaker 1: Uh So, Patrick, the Ravens did it. They are undefeated
Speaker 1: yet again in the preseason, breaking the Vince Lombardi record
Speaker 1: And that's cool, But no j K. Dobbins, that stinks.
Speaker 1: It will be opportunity for Gus Edwards uh to have
Speaker 1: a main role on this offense. Yeah. No better example
Speaker 1: of a pyric victory, right than when in your twentieth
Speaker 1: straight preseason game and losing your starting running back who
Speaker 1: really has a unique skill set that's not represented anywhere
Speaker 1: else on the team at the tailback position, and you
Speaker 1: wonder how they're going to go about this. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a veteran out there that can fill that role,
Speaker 1: so they're probably just not They're just not going to
Speaker 1: have that aspect in their offense in a season where
Speaker 1: they prioritize the passing game, right, and he was your
Speaker 1: best option out of the backfield, and now he's gone,
Speaker 1: and it's it's tough, especially as somebody who would like
Speaker 1: the Ravens to win every single game this year, and
Speaker 1: then they've had a nightmare preseason. I don't know if
Speaker 1: anyone had had a worse one. The Colts are in
Speaker 1: the midst Mark s. Brown returned, you know, to practice
Speaker 1: today for the first time since July, but Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: has been hurt for much of the preseason. Rashad Bateman
Speaker 1: is out into the regular season. I think they do
Speaker 1: need another running back. Justice Hill was not guaranteed to
Speaker 1: make this team before the injury. I anticipate they'll either
Speaker 1: get they'll make a trade for someone's second string or
Speaker 1: third string running back, or they'll pick up some veterans
Speaker 1: because they're a volume running game. I don't think you
Speaker 1: want to change your game plan because J. K. Dobbins
Speaker 1: isn't there. You can't replace him. He was by far
Speaker 1: their best running back. Out Edwards is a great too,
Speaker 1: but now you need another too, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's on the roster and they're they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: run the Bay like I just don't see the recipe
Speaker 1: for them to start throwing the ball that much more
Speaker 1: than than they used to. That's what they do well,
Speaker 1: is run the ball. ESPN's Josina Anderson mentioned or reported
Speaker 1: that Todd Gurley, who worked out with the Ravens, is
Speaker 1: not in the mix right now to potentially join the team.
Speaker 1: So maybe cross Girly off the list. You wonder where
Speaker 1: he's at at this point and what his future holds.
Speaker 1: In other news, and you know, I try to have
Speaker 1: I wish I could avoid these stories, but they're part
Speaker 1: of the news every single week. It's time for another
Speaker 1: episode of c s I COVID Stuff incoming Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: and friends to the COVID list. Here is the Here
Speaker 1: are the names from the Colts Wentz, Zach Pascal, Wide receiver,
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, the center. All deemed close contexts with a
Speaker 1: staff member who tested positive. All eligible to return in
Speaker 1: five days as long as they remain negative and asymptomatic.
Speaker 1: So Wentz, who obviously is working his way back from
Speaker 1: the foot surgery and needs as many reps as possible
Speaker 1: that he has taken out of the mix. Here Patrick
Speaker 1: for the next several days, as is Pascal, Pascal and Kelly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot going on, and you wonder because
Speaker 1: a team where the the opportunity in the division right
Speaker 1: seemed to be right there first and foremost. And we
Speaker 1: skip ahead a few weeks later and you you're missing
Speaker 1: all of these guys. Um I I'm I'm searching for
Speaker 1: the positive you get, you get, um you eventually get
Speaker 1: these guys back. But it was sold as like, well,
Speaker 1: this is good news. We'll be back in five days,
Speaker 1: so plenty of time before the season. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: sick of framing Carson Wentz missing days is like good news. Like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not good news. It's not good news. And they
Speaker 1: wouldn't miss it if they were vaccinated. That we know.
Speaker 1: Um So even though the vaccination status is are not
Speaker 1: announced officially, we know based on the circumstances here that
Speaker 1: these guys weren't because that's why they have five days
Speaker 1: with the close contacts. Yeah, similar to the Cam Newton situation.
Speaker 1: I'm not it's like it doesn't change their season. But
Speaker 1: we keep saying this. And the Titans have thirteen players,
Speaker 1: many of whom were vaccinated, on their COVID list. Um
Speaker 1: we keep saying this. That's like, well, this is all
Speaker 1: gonna happen during the season, and just like with each
Speaker 1: time it happens, we start to realize, like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is gonna happen during the season. In other news, oh
Speaker 1: and other cults news, it has been Oh, what a
Speaker 1: off rough summer it's been for the Colts. T Y Hilton, uh,
Speaker 1: their veteran wide receiver who uh he's getting up there
Speaker 1: in years, but he showed down the stretch last season
Speaker 1: that he could still deliver as a playmaker at age
Speaker 1: thirty one. Well, he's out because he's he's dealing with
Speaker 1: a neck injury sometimes a disk issue, and it's uncertain
Speaker 1: how much how much time he'll missed. The Athletic Stephen
Speaker 1: Holder reported that Hilton will be on the shelf multiple
Speaker 1: weeks with a neck injury. And Greg, I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be a physical therapist or a doctor
Speaker 1: in the field to know that when a football player
Speaker 1: has a nick in neck injury, you never know where
Speaker 1: that's gonna go, and sometimes it goes in a really
Speaker 1: tough situation direction hopefully not. Yeah, And it's not the
Speaker 1: first time for him with that injury either. He's played
Speaker 1: through his injuries for the most part throughout his career.
Speaker 1: Hasn't missed a lot of games. Um, but this is
Speaker 1: not a first time. Think Paris Campbell is a really
Speaker 1: big player on this team. That that's kind of my
Speaker 1: takeaway is that third year guy Guy West really liked
Speaker 1: to remember, but just hasn't been able to stay on
Speaker 1: the field, and they they're gonna have to get someone
Speaker 1: to be an explosive guy on their receiver. Corp Pittman
Speaker 1: is a good player, but he's not explosive like that.
Speaker 1: Zach Pascal will play a lot, too, but they need
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell to be a factor. In other news, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we don't have clarity uh in San Francisco. Maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit more uh in New England. But you gotta
Speaker 1: read between the lines here. Mac Jones played with the
Speaker 1: backups in the preseason finale. Uh. Cam Newton of course,
Speaker 1: also in the mix to be the starter or at
Speaker 1: least to start the season. Bill Belichick unusually verbose and
Speaker 1: talking on the topic after Sunday Night's game. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we we still have a lot of decisions to make.
Speaker 1: Just kidding, what did you expect? What did you expect? Dan?
Speaker 1: What do you want? You want him? To announce? The
Speaker 1: starting cord back. He's loving this. He's always wanted to
Speaker 1: have a to be able to conceal his starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he always had Tom Brady, so there wasn't much
Speaker 1: mystery to it. There's no way that I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna do Yeah, I guess so. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: fresh it's a fresh thing for him here. I really
Speaker 1: do think that he wants Brian Floor as the Dolphins
Speaker 1: coach is preparing for Week one, to have to prepare
Speaker 1: for both guys, and I think he's gonna try to
Speaker 1: take this as long as it goes. Usually like a
Speaker 1: rap sheet or a schefter gets the word out. But
Speaker 1: here's here's where I would push back on everyone's interpretation
Speaker 1: of this that just because Cam Newton played with the
Speaker 1: starters that he's not that he's the Week one starter.
Speaker 1: I don't think that matters that much. I think there's
Speaker 1: a real chance Mac Jones is the starter week one,
Speaker 1: and that everyone assuming they know what Belichick's thinking, based
Speaker 1: on how he like played them. I don't know. You
Speaker 1: could look at it either way. You could look at
Speaker 1: it like, man, they didn't try to get Cam much
Speaker 1: work this preseason, you know, I I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think the way they played with the ones and twos
Speaker 1: has anything to do with Belichick. One thing I believe
Speaker 1: what he said was, I don't think he was going
Speaker 1: to make that decision until they start meeting today, and
Speaker 1: now they're gonna start practicing with the real starter, whether
Speaker 1: that's Mac Jones or Cam Newton. Wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: it's Mac Jones. I would actually be surprised if it
Speaker 1: was Mac Jones. Just based off of Bill Belichick's career,
Speaker 1: I think he wants we'd like to start uh this
Speaker 1: season with the veteran quarterback, UM, not not necessarily making
Speaker 1: some kind of statement or some conclusion on his evaluation
Speaker 1: of Mac Jones. I would just believe that Bills going
Speaker 1: in with Cam as the starter, UM, he thinks they
Speaker 1: can win with Cam, and then if they can't, he's
Speaker 1: gonna adjust off of that. But it's it's not as
Speaker 1: overwrought of decision to him as anything else. He's probably
Speaker 1: been more worried about the step on Gilmour Uh the situation.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, he's just and Josh is
Speaker 1: going to do it like you would. You would like this,
Speaker 1: Dan that Pat's fans are freaking out about like who's
Speaker 1: gonna start Week one, and they're gonna be so mad
Speaker 1: that if Cam's starting. I'm kind of the mind, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it makes that huge of a difference
Speaker 1: who starts Weak one. It is a really long season,
Speaker 1: and like, I think they can win with either quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, there's not much separating two and
Speaker 1: Gilmore is like Patrick said, is it is a much
Speaker 1: bigger deal. The one reason that sit mac Jones is
Speaker 1: he did have some like like delay of games and
Speaker 1: struggles in the two minutes things that you would expect
Speaker 1: out of rookie quarterbacks throughout the preseason, which I think
Speaker 1: maybe registers in Bill Belichick's mind that like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: guy is maybe not a percent ready. I'm curious, um
Speaker 1: how much if you ask defensive coordinators and just got
Speaker 1: their unvarnished opinions when you hear that things, Oh, the
Speaker 1: coach coach X is not going to decide who the
Speaker 1: quarterback is, so the other team has to prepare for
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks. Is that actually a huge pain in the
Speaker 1: butt or is that like is the defense able to
Speaker 1: adjust either way? I'm just curious about that these two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are so different, and you would you would kind
Speaker 1: of think the offenses would be so different with the
Speaker 1: two of them that I think at least Belichick would
Speaker 1: like to maintain that advantage. I mean, when when a doubt,
Speaker 1: Belichick is gonna say nothing. I mean, that's typically what
Speaker 1: his m O is. So none of this is a surprise. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be a surprise if he came out
Speaker 1: and said anything like about this before Week one, Right,
Speaker 1: probably get anything. I don't think you're gonna get anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's different. Like I think Tom Current made
Speaker 1: at this point that he thought he thinks when Belichick
Speaker 1: saw the new NFL schedule that he was all about it,
Speaker 1: because you can start preparing for Week one now, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the field preparing for your Week
Speaker 1: one opponent more than any other game that you'll ever
Speaker 1: play except for the super Bowl. And if you don't
Speaker 1: think guys like Belichick and Andy Reid are going to
Speaker 1: cook up some fun stuff for Week one and want
Speaker 1: to like hide everything possible, like they're they're app that's
Speaker 1: exactly what Bill Belichick's gonna do. And and like maybe
Speaker 1: maybe they do a little rotation, a little Mac Jones
Speaker 1: and Cam Newton. I was gonna say, I would see
Speaker 1: a situation where Bill Belichick knows he has arguably the
Speaker 1: best goal line weapon in the history of the National
Speaker 1: Football UM, and he's gonna use him throughout the season
Speaker 1: when he's available, UM, and they're better team than they
Speaker 1: were last year's I wouldn't put it past him to
Speaker 1: start one guy one week and start the other guy
Speaker 1: another week, depending on the team in the situation. Cam's luck.
Speaker 1: Cam had a good camp, because otherwise he would have
Speaker 1: lost the job because Mac Jones ultimately did better, I
Speaker 1: think than than anyone could have expected in his first
Speaker 1: camp in his first prese who starts first, Trey Lancer
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, I would go Mac jun I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go Trey Lance. In other quarterback news, the Eagles
Speaker 1: acquire Gardner means Shoo the Warrior from the Jaguars for
Speaker 1: a conditional sixth round pick. The move comes a couple
Speaker 1: of days after the Jaguars named Trevor Lawrence their Week
Speaker 1: one starter and one of the bigger, bigger shocks of
Speaker 1: the summer. So Minshew joins the quarterback room in Philly
Speaker 1: that includes Jalen Hurtz and also Joe Flacco, what does
Speaker 1: this mean? Greg Rosenthal, have I have some thoughts. I
Speaker 1: want to hear your thoughts. You had a great tweet
Speaker 1: about it. It's just like it's not a healthy relationship,
Speaker 1: but right now between the Eagles and Hurts, so that well,
Speaker 1: I guess my point was like, yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: quietly they're in an unhealthy relationship. And I got I.
Speaker 1: I think you guys have all been well. Clayboon, I
Speaker 1: know you have UM and I know Greg of course
Speaker 1: as well, Like you'll send us a tweet out and
Speaker 1: you know you won't think much of it, and then
Speaker 1: for some reason it strikes a chord, sometimes positively, sometimes negatively.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what Eaggles fans and I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really know too too many Eagles
Speaker 1: fans outside of Connie and Gonzo and a few others
Speaker 1: because I am a Jet fan and an a f
Speaker 1: C guy when I was growing up. And but they
Speaker 1: were on fire. They were so pissed at me that
Speaker 1: I need to sinuated. I mean, if you went my mentions,
Speaker 1: you would see hundreds. Maybe I must have gotten like
Speaker 1: quote retweeted by some popular whether it's like a blog
Speaker 1: or a calumnist or something, because they had their knives
Speaker 1: out for me insinuating that Jalen Hurts and the Eagles
Speaker 1: are on unsteady ground on any level. It was being
Speaker 1: told that it was a fake narrative and tire needs
Speaker 1: to go away. But I'm not basing this off on
Speaker 1: just like I don't know, like I just parachuted in totally.
Speaker 1: This is an Eagles team that has been connected on
Speaker 1: some level uh through reports to Deshaun Watson uh that
Speaker 1: uh now is traded for Gardner Minshew. Uh. We were
Speaker 1: connected to taking a quarterback in the draft in reports,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles have as a ship they leak like
Speaker 1: the Titanic. So I just feel like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff coming out of that building, and I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that's the way it feels. I didn't say the
Speaker 1: way it is, but I thought it was funny the
Speaker 1: response to the victual Eagles fans don't want to hear that. Well,
Speaker 1: it's telling right that they're so angry about it. It's
Speaker 1: probably got some it's it's so true right now. I
Speaker 1: I thought I defended the Eagles for like not naming
Speaker 1: him the starter all summer because what does it really matter.
Speaker 1: He was getting all the first team reps. I do
Speaker 1: think they're making his if you know, Jalen Hurts a
Speaker 1: little tougher. That's a weird. It's a weird quarterback room.
Speaker 1: And I kind of thought, like his Flacco really gonna
Speaker 1: be on this team and the cuts the cutdown day
Speaker 1: is Tuesday. We're taping this on Monday, so we have
Speaker 1: to assume right now Flac will be on this team.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make sense. Why would you have Flacco
Speaker 1: a Minshew. I've kind of guessing. I kind of guessing
Speaker 1: they trade Flacco for like a conditional seventh or something
Speaker 1: to the Falcons, and he's not on this team, and
Speaker 1: that Minshew's the backup, and that's an upgrade at backup. Greg,
Speaker 1: Greg meant they just traded for Minshew of her conditional
Speaker 1: sixth round pick. A conditional has not ended. Because this
Speaker 1: is the most discussed conditional sixth round pick trade of
Speaker 1: all time for a third string quarterback. That's that's why
Speaker 1: I think like he was a high quality. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's not a normal conditional six. We talked about Sony Michelle.
Speaker 1: That's not different. Here's what I'm saying though, Like don't
Speaker 1: you think he's one of the best backup quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league. Now, if he was Greg, I'm a asuming
Speaker 1: that the value would have been more than a conditional
Speaker 1: sixth round. Also, let me say this, because I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying, we shouldn't be making that big a
Speaker 1: deal because it's Gardner Minshew. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: he's kind of like the New generations. He's the gen
Speaker 1: Z version of Ryan Fitzpatrick. And just watch out here.
Speaker 1: If Jalen Hurts struggles, that's the difference I'm saying, so
Speaker 1: does so can Ryan Fitzpatrick. What I'm saying is he's
Speaker 1: a guy that people get behind. He's he's got the mustache,
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a folk hero down in Duval
Speaker 1: And I wonder if this is just going to make
Speaker 1: things a little bit that much harder for Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: if you truly believe in the guy. And while we're
Speaker 1: on the subject of things that, to me, we're a
Speaker 1: little curious what's going on with urban Meyer, who was
Speaker 1: taken away first team reps from Trevor Lawrence all summer,
Speaker 1: giving it to a guy who even traded for a
Speaker 1: conditional sixth round pick. What's that about? What are we
Speaker 1: doing here? It's the mania, stupid, It's the mania. The
Speaker 1: mania is real and and and I understand that Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew has played um, but the people that are going
Speaker 1: to call for him the minute Jalen makes one mistake
Speaker 1: right and his you know eighth ever start in the NFL, um,
Speaker 1: they're wrong too. Like we've seen Gardner Minshew. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: the conditional sixth. I get it. He's a third year
Speaker 1: player who has played a lot better than plenty of quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: including some starters. Like I'm not a big Minshew fan,
Speaker 1: but like, he's a better player than Sam Donald or
Speaker 1: he has been. Like, and I know that the draft
Speaker 1: picks wouldn't be the same, but it's just I don't
Speaker 1: care that the fans are going to complain it. It's
Speaker 1: the Flacco part of it that bothers me. And I
Speaker 1: suspect Flacco won't won't be on that team. Like I
Speaker 1: couldn't help but think when I heard Drew Lock lose
Speaker 1: the job to Teddy Bridgewater and talk about how much
Speaker 1: he had learned from Teddy Bridgewater in terms of how
Speaker 1: he approached being a starting quarterback, how to talk to
Speaker 1: his teammates, how to talk in the quarterback room, how
Speaker 1: to how to like be a leader, how to be positive,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I never had that before, And I
Speaker 1: was like, M, who are the veteran quarterbacks that, uh
Speaker 1: that that you've been with just for Drew Loco, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Joe Flacco, the guy who froze out Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson too. So that with this, you know what, I like,
Speaker 1: Rosenthal and Claibon almost always on the same page. I
Speaker 1: feel I like that there's some type of different opinion
Speaker 1: here and this is something to try the starter in
Speaker 1: week six. That's a great value. I think everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of bought into this idea that Carson Wentz was bad
Speaker 1: because he was mad and scared that the quarterback behind
Speaker 1: him was good. And I just don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that, and so that causes me to fundamentally believe
Speaker 1: different things about this current quarterback situation. To be clear,
Speaker 1: I think it was a good trade by the Eagles.
Speaker 1: You should add quarterbacks that are good for that cheap
Speaker 1: of a price, that are under contract for two more years.
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters too much about Hurts, but
Speaker 1: there will be that segment of the fan base that
Speaker 1: will be annoying if they have a losing record at
Speaker 1: any point. And well, let's let's check in with a
Speaker 1: segment of that fan base while we're here. Let's welcome in. Hello,
Speaker 1: eating raspberries. I'm sitting here and listening. This has been fun,
Speaker 1: even on Yeah, we're gonna talk Okay, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: Palindrome Gate with Connie in a second. But I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on, uh my song, great Digger,
Speaker 1: it still goes, it's still on, it's still happening. So
Speaker 1: Eagles fans absolutely to shreds this weekend. I saw actually
Speaker 1: up that. First of all, did you were you behind that?
Speaker 1: And don't stand on this means shoot thing? Now that
Speaker 1: you got the warrior in that QB room, I well,
Speaker 1: so as you guys were talking about it, I grabbed
Speaker 1: out my raspberries and started just going through your comments
Speaker 1: and it was hilarious. Uh, there were a lot of
Speaker 1: takes on their many angry. I would say, I think
Speaker 1: you only had like one quote tweet that was like
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. But people were just like
Speaker 1: you're a loser, Like how was this tweet loud? And
Speaker 1: it was just like all all sorts of crazy came out.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's um an anomaly because Eagles
Speaker 1: fans are usually very very even keeled. Um they don't
Speaker 1: pop off about anything, especially not the quarterback. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about it? Do you think do you think
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is the answer? I'm just I don't think
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation. I mean, we saw him for
Speaker 1: like four games slash. It's I have no idea if
Speaker 1: he's going to be the answer or not. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know, Like I don't I don't think the Eagles, No,
Speaker 1: sure they didn't take a quarterback, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that that is really They can't base that off of
Speaker 1: four games starting, and he really didn't have a ton
Speaker 1: of work otherwise with like the first dring offense, and
Speaker 1: there really wasn't even a first dring offense because everyone
Speaker 1: was hurt. So it's kind of like a coin flip
Speaker 1: at this point. And I think it's smart that the
Speaker 1: Eagles brought in other bodies. And I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: don't think Joe Flacco is going to help out book Gardner,
Speaker 1: and she's a really good backup, and Philadelphia loves a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I forgot the one other thing that was
Speaker 1: just on my radar that that ridiculous facata strategy they
Speaker 1: had in week seventeen when they put Hurts on a
Speaker 1: bench and brought in what's his face? Just a bunch
Speaker 1: of weird stuff with the Eagles. Here's the thing, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans love a backup, but sometimes those backups
Speaker 1: are like a J feely and your quarterback Donovan McNabb,
Speaker 1: And you've been totally unfair to Donovan McNabb throughout his
Speaker 1: all that happens. That happens too. We still love a
Speaker 1: J feely, Hey, Connie, um uh uh palindrome Gate. We
Speaker 1: just got to address it because we're on some level,
Speaker 1: we're an educational program. We seek to bring knowledge to
Speaker 1: NFL fans and uh when we went down the road
Speaker 1: of you were kind of hung up on a cam
Speaker 1: Mac and you said, it's that problem. What did you
Speaker 1: call it? And then I said, and then I said, oh,
Speaker 1: is it a palindrome? And then I looked it up
Speaker 1: and I read the definition of a palindrome. And then
Speaker 1: you guys like, oh, that's it. And then like Paul
Speaker 1: Rudd like said some nice words to me, and then
Speaker 1: we kind of and then we just move forward. But
Speaker 1: as it turns out, um, Cam and Mac not a palindrome.
Speaker 1: In fact, like taco cat is a palindrome, Race Car
Speaker 1: is a pald Madame former Detroit Tigers backup catcher the eighties. Um,
Speaker 1: what was his name? Matt Salis Salad the number one
Speaker 1: thousand one that you know that that would be a palindrome.
Speaker 1: Cam and Mac is not that, But Connie is we
Speaker 1: saw some other things out there. Does it actually have
Speaker 1: Is there a word that connects Cam and mac or
Speaker 1: is it just two words? I think that so the palindrome,
Speaker 1: it's the same words spelled front back, but the more
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to pronounce it. A more
Speaker 1: than a lap, which is palindrome backward. That no, I
Speaker 1: don't think so I think there is. I've been. That
Speaker 1: was the other thing I was doing while I was
Speaker 1: listening to the parts of the show, was looking up
Speaker 1: definitions of a more than nil lap and uh, that's
Speaker 1: a different word spelled backward, and there is some debate
Speaker 1: whether or not that's a word at all. I also
Speaker 1: saw some mordni lap, which is palindrome's plural backwards so,
Speaker 1: um yeah, still a lot of debate here, and I
Speaker 1: think we do need some type of English language expert
Speaker 1: to come on the show. I'm thoroughly confused. Yeah, Ham
Speaker 1: and Mac, I mean didn't so I'm someone who transport
Speaker 1: is a real thing. I mean yeah, so Mac really
Speaker 1: had me. Are just messing with us by doing because
Speaker 1: that feels like something that would be made up to
Speaker 1: I don't know to make it. It's in an article
Speaker 1: on NPR dot org and from two thousand and fifteen,
Speaker 1: and just to put a bow on it, Um, what
Speaker 1: happened on the last show? Um, So Colleen was wrong
Speaker 1: and then Dan was wrong, and I all I did
Speaker 1: is I mentioned palindrome. I didn't say that was the answer,
Speaker 1: and I read the definition and then you guys all
Speaker 1: agreed and congratulated me, and then we moved on. I
Speaker 1: never said that was the answer, So I was never
Speaker 1: technically wrong. I just want to get and we just
Speaker 1: need to redact all of the congratulations and everything else
Speaker 1: your way. You can't take that back a bunch of dummies. Connie,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us for palindrome gate. You know,
Speaker 1: I added so much to the show today. And Morgan
Speaker 1: lap I don't know, pick up that guitar behind you
Speaker 1: and play us out. I would all right, bad connection.
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys later. She goes Connie Fox, all right,
Speaker 1: let's finish up the news quickly and then we'll get
Speaker 1: into predictions. The Vikings news. Harrison Smith signs a new deal. IRB.
Speaker 1: Smith out for a while with an injury. Greg, I'll
Speaker 1: tee you up that way. Yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 1: already for the IRV Smith breakout season. They that's another
Speaker 1: team that's had some bad vibes in the in the preseason.
Speaker 1: The Vikings, just if you watch them, played football. The
Speaker 1: football has been ugly on the field. But Harrison Smith
Speaker 1: yet one one of the all time great Vikings. Give
Speaker 1: him his money, paithe Man baith Man. He's been solid
Speaker 1: at that position. And there were people arguing because some
Speaker 1: people want their saying they want safeties to be ed
Speaker 1: read only Ed Reid can be at read. You still
Speaker 1: need box, guys. And that's why there were people that
Speaker 1: were upset about Jamal Adam steal. They were saying it
Speaker 1: was too much. Was actually great value and I think
Speaker 1: the Vikings got a great value here in Harrison Smith.
Speaker 1: The safety's the league wide is still underpaid. Still, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite memories in the history of my time
Speaker 1: here at NFL is when me and Chris Brockman, the
Speaker 1: producer or um and sidekick on the Rich Eyes and Show,
Speaker 1: went to the Oscars and we were supposed to go
Speaker 1: with Gronk, and then Gronk had a surgery, so they
Speaker 1: got Ed Reid to fill in last second, right after
Speaker 1: the Ravens won that Super Bowl. And remember us driving
Speaker 1: in a limo to pick up Ed Reid at the
Speaker 1: hotel on the west side of l A and like
Speaker 1: waiting in the lobby, me and Brockman in full tuxedos
Speaker 1: for like forty five minutes waiting for Ed to come downstairs,
Speaker 1: and then spending the whole day with Ed and his
Speaker 1: his buddy, and um, that was a great memory, much better,
Speaker 1: much better than it would have been with Gronk. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll due respect, I think so. I think Ed Reid
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun and a good guy. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Shack Lawson, hopefully for the Jets will
Speaker 1: be a decent fill in for Carl Lawson, who of
Speaker 1: course blew as Achilles Uh a couple of weeks back
Speaker 1: and that position. That edge rusher is such an important
Speaker 1: role for um Robert sale on defense. So Jack Lawson
Speaker 1: acquired uh in a trade for a late round pick.
Speaker 1: And also former Jet Brett Perry not Brett Perriman. What
Speaker 1: is it again? Why am I? Of course? But Perriman
Speaker 1: the former Jet. He signed a one year deal with
Speaker 1: the Lions earlier this offseason. He didn't make the team,
Speaker 1: he gets cut. Greg that that wide receiver group in
Speaker 1: Detroit is is rough. And the fact that Perriman couldn't
Speaker 1: even make the team, that's that's no bueno all the
Speaker 1: all the more reason to pick up I'm on st Brown.
Speaker 1: I forgot who's sleeper that was? It was that Liz
Speaker 1: Lowses sleeper. I liked it, though, Uh yeah, it's very
Speaker 1: rare to give a guy two million dollars and then
Speaker 1: cut him. That's that might be the highest paid player
Speaker 1: that signed this offseason that did not make the team,
Speaker 1: although Shack Lawson, who got traded from the Texans, is
Speaker 1: up there. And I do wonder if the Jets are
Speaker 1: taking advantage of this week and a half build up
Speaker 1: to the season to just kind of take a look
Speaker 1: at him, and he's not guaranteed to make the team,
Speaker 1: because anyone that could not make the Texans defense at
Speaker 1: this point, you would figure something's going on and you
Speaker 1: might struggle to make any any roster. There's a lot
Speaker 1: going on with the Houston Texans right now, none of
Speaker 1: it good. UM. And finally in the news, I just
Speaker 1: want to hit on it. Yes, I mentioned the Ravens.
Speaker 1: They won, they finished off that undefeated preseason. I looking
Speaker 1: at the standings, did you guys check this out? The
Speaker 1: here here are the records in the a f C
Speaker 1: for the preseason. I'll go east to West ten one
Speaker 1: and one, ten, ten and three, eight and four, nine
Speaker 1: and three. And in the NFC in the East one
Speaker 1: eleven and one, the North two and ten, the South
Speaker 1: three and eight, the West four and seven. UM. Should
Speaker 1: we read into any of this because there is absolutely
Speaker 1: I think a disparity in talent and UM contenders. The
Speaker 1: a f C, I think is far better than the
Speaker 1: a f C right now. Is there a connection between
Speaker 1: preseason action with a much derided preseason Patrick Levan and
Speaker 1: what we're actually going to see coming up in in
Speaker 1: terms of outcomes other than something like the j K.
Speaker 1: Dobbins injury. The only news you can get out of
Speaker 1: this particular preseason is bad news. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can draw anything. But we have a proliferation of coaches
Speaker 1: who do not want to play anybody in the preseason
Speaker 1: that's in in both conferences. I think it's impossible to
Speaker 1: know anything, although it I agree it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the season, and I also agree this is
Speaker 1: the deepest AFC I've ever seen, or that since we've
Speaker 1: been doing this job. I think I think there are
Speaker 1: more good teams in the FC. I can't remember when
Speaker 1: that was ever the case going into a season. I
Speaker 1: guess we'll see if it holds up. But it is
Speaker 1: a show of which teams took the preseason. Seriously, it
Speaker 1: actually does match up like the Ravens, the Steelers, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Uh, those are all the teams that didn't
Speaker 1: lose the game or I don't think any of one
Speaker 1: of those lost the game, as Steelers lost one, and
Speaker 1: those are the teams that won the games, which that
Speaker 1: there probably is like a one to one you know
Speaker 1: thing there that they were playing their starters, whether whether
Speaker 1: that's the right approach. The Dolphins or another team that
Speaker 1: played their starters like throughout throughout the preseason. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if that's a good idea
Speaker 1: or a bad idea, but it's it is pretty interesting
Speaker 1: how different like some of the best coaches in the
Speaker 1: league view it now like hard like these are good coaches,
Speaker 1: Hard bough Tomlin Flora's Belichick read and that so many
Speaker 1: and I guess it happens to be in the NFC,
Speaker 1: they're going the total opposite way. You see James Morgan,
Speaker 1: hail Mary, his time expired and the two point conversion
Speaker 1: the Jets escape with a tie against the Eagles. No,
Speaker 1: but and I didn't I have to me, I didn't
Speaker 1: know any of that. But I think you can actually
Speaker 1: draw I'm taking a take from this game. The fact
Speaker 1: that the Jet backups scored thirty one points in any
Speaker 1: scenario is to me a sign of something. Oh, even
Speaker 1: in the preseas, there's no way Adam Gates's backups are
Speaker 1: scoring thirty one points. They couldn't They could never move
Speaker 1: the ball. Even I watched those preseason games, it just
Speaker 1: wasn't happening. There was well, I don't know. There was
Speaker 1: an infamous Green and White scrimmage last summer where the
Speaker 1: backups absolutely. It would be the backup against the starters
Speaker 1: in a scrimmage at MetLife Stadium, UM and the backups
Speaker 1: absolutely wipe the floor with the starters. It was because
Speaker 1: they were just as good as that mono in four teams. Basically,
Speaker 1: no more Adam Gates talk. That's what's happening in the news. Alright.
Speaker 1: So every year, and this always sneaks up on me,
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things that, like same thing
Speaker 1: with certain UM office mandated security videos you might have
Speaker 1: to watch or I t learning things you have to do.
Speaker 1: It just like sits in the corner of my brain,
Speaker 1: like just nagging at me, you gotta do this, you
Speaker 1: gotta watch this thing, take care of your corporate UM
Speaker 1: corporate drone activity. When Gennaro sends out the email, hey
Speaker 1: time for predictions for the season, Uh, that just sits
Speaker 1: in the corner of my brain and I should just
Speaker 1: do it right away, but I don't, and it just
Speaker 1: sits there and then I'll get an email, hey man,
Speaker 1: remember this, and then eventually I do it. Greg. I
Speaker 1: applaud you because you had a great idea, which was
Speaker 1: why don't we just do this email on the podcast
Speaker 1: and making our predictions conversation for the season. I love it.
Speaker 1: We're we're work shopping. You know, we could always I
Speaker 1: did send one in, but we can change our answers.
Speaker 1: If I think that's the best idea you've literally ever
Speaker 1: had on the podcast. I think it's brilliant on three
Speaker 1: different levels. I think this one will serve as the
Speaker 1: official it's there, it's there, it's there. It's Gennaro's idea.
Speaker 1: So that was really a backhanded compliment. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: year and that was it. That was it, that was
Speaker 1: the best idea. It's in the top three. I'll come
Speaker 1: up with the top three at a later date for
Speaker 1: the show. So anyway, let's bring in Justin the grave
Speaker 1: digger I call him. It's gonna be digging Ricky's grave
Speaker 1: if he continues to kill it in this production. Whoa Justin?
Speaker 1: First of all, because i'd like your help with this,
Speaker 1: if you could just kind of tee us up with
Speaker 1: the different categories. I'd like you to get a plug
Speaker 1: in for your Titans podcast. Let it really Oh wow,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Yeah. So then Music City Audible
Speaker 1: is a podcast we do every Friday previewing the upcoming
Speaker 1: Titans game. Thank you but here we ever think of
Speaker 1: taping it like earlier in the week, just to give
Speaker 1: a little more a little more time for them to listen. Um,
Speaker 1: we have thought about it. He's about the content, Greg,
Speaker 1: He's not about he's not about views or listens. He
Speaker 1: wants to give people what they what they How about
Speaker 1: how about grave Figger says that, and you say, oh man,
Speaker 1: I'd like to check that out. That sounds great. Everybody
Speaker 1: should do the same. Why can't you do? That's just
Speaker 1: heating them up over here, I'm not it's not heating
Speaker 1: him up. It's like sometimes the producer needs a producer.
Speaker 1: So it's just something to think about. Yeah, alright, you've
Speaker 1: ruined everything again. Let's get into it. Uh So justin
Speaker 1: tee us up and we'll Patrick, Greg and myself will
Speaker 1: will share. So the way it breaks down just above
Speaker 1: the tree tops, it's gonna be different. Um Awards predictions
Speaker 1: and then playoff teams and then we'll all make our
Speaker 1: super Bowl super Bowl pick where we stand on August.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's we want to hold that for right
Speaker 1: before the season starts. But now this is good, let's
Speaker 1: just do it all right, Let's go on, dreful all right,
Speaker 1: We'll start with the individual awards, beginning with the most
Speaker 1: Important Most Valuable Player m v P award. I'm a
Speaker 1: basic bitch. I got my homes. Everybody else, yeah, super
Speaker 1: chalky homes for me. I did. Yeah. I decided not
Speaker 1: to get cute with it. Get cute with the other ones,
Speaker 1: but not with my homes. Yeah. That this one is
Speaker 1: just I just uh. It ain't a brave feeling, but
Speaker 1: I just got a feeling this is gonna be one
Speaker 1: of those seasons for the Ages with Patrick Mahomes Offensive Player.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, no, see, I'm so used to doing it myself,
Speaker 1: justin set the table. How about Offensive Player of the Year. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll get this out of the way. I'm a conscientious
Speaker 1: objector every year to this award. Um, I don't believe
Speaker 1: in it. It's not a bit. Uh. I just think
Speaker 1: even contributing to this answer, so I always just put nah,
Speaker 1: always just. But now I used to say, hey, can
Speaker 1: you can you print this sentence about how dumb an
Speaker 1: award this is? Um? But they wouldn't. They didn't narrow,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't, they wouldn't print it. So I just sit
Speaker 1: this one out, Okay, Patrick Calvin Ridley I think he
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to get it a lot of catches
Speaker 1: and perhaps you know, as Greg's previous objections to the ward,
Speaker 1: it's the award itself in the way that it plays out.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, maybe it's a maybe it's a spot I
Speaker 1: could just give some pop to a player I like you.
Speaker 1: It's it's a smart way to do it. Well, we
Speaker 1: all of us. I have Kyler Murray. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the first guy to ever go four thousand,
Speaker 1: one thousand and that type of statistical production, even though
Speaker 1: his team's gonna go eight nine, it's going something that
Speaker 1: lifts him to that award. And justin uh, just gonna
Speaker 1: quiz you off the top of your head, who was
Speaker 1: the offensive player of the Year in two thousand twenty.
Speaker 1: That was Derrick Henry two thousand yeards? Whoa see that's
Speaker 1: but Greg, look at it, look at it that way?
Speaker 1: What have you done? The answer Claiban because I I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have, yes, Josh Allen. But to see doesn't that
Speaker 1: in a way justify it, Greg, Because it's a quarterback
Speaker 1: award m v P. Everybody knows that Rick Henry runs
Speaker 1: for two thousand yards. It puts that team on his
Speaker 1: back for like, just make that. Make that the award
Speaker 1: non Quarterback award, because it is sometimes sometimes the same
Speaker 1: guy wins m VP and Offensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: pretty often. Like so I don't understand why wouldn't just
Speaker 1: be Mohammed Mahomes. Make it at the Non Quarterback award.
Speaker 1: That's what they should do. About half of the last
Speaker 1: m v P last ten years. M vps also one
Speaker 1: of year, but only about half. Well that seems Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like when there's a good running back to to
Speaker 1: vote for them, that guy wins it, but otherwise, or
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas when he set the reception records. But it's
Speaker 1: like when a player like a receiver, quarterback or non
Speaker 1: quarterback sets a record of some kind where becomes the
Speaker 1: eighth player to run for two thousand yards, then they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: a different person than the MVP can have it. So
Speaker 1: offensive player there just be the guy who came second
Speaker 1: in the MVP vote. Right, That's some sort of where
Speaker 1: I'm coming up. I mean, I know what you're saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not putting that against it. I guess it's it's
Speaker 1: a house of cards and we need, you know, award realignment,
Speaker 1: like we'd have to change everything to fix the problems
Speaker 1: with the individual awards. Yeah, to say nine QB, I
Speaker 1: think that solves it. Well, why couldn't Aaron Donald win
Speaker 1: m v P one year and then a QB went
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year exactly? Speaking of Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: how about Defensive Player of the year. Erica is in trouble, man,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Miles Gear for me. I think I
Speaker 1: think we we get the twenty SAX season that we've
Speaker 1: been waiting for for Miles this year, especially maybe if
Speaker 1: we get a healthy Clowney season that the Browns score
Speaker 1: some points. Other teams were passing us Miles Gar I
Speaker 1: like that one a lot. I thought about that, But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Chris Jones, which I threw out there
Speaker 1: as like, what's the the long ticket? Uh? If he's
Speaker 1: even on the board, some someone, some listener, I think,
Speaker 1: And we're not encouraging this, This is against the policy.
Speaker 1: We are not encouraging any one to do anything. But
Speaker 1: some listener took my Chris Jones Defensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year thought and acted upon it. So I think that's
Speaker 1: a it's a real long chat. I don't think It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a real long chip, but I'm gonna go Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: You know, Myles Garrett was my pick. And then when
Speaker 1: I was filling out the document um, I blanked on it.
Speaker 1: Put Aaron Donald and I could send a follow up
Speaker 1: email to Gennaro, but I won't. I'll just keep it
Speaker 1: and Aaron Don just to show him the love as
Speaker 1: an all time great, He'll get my vote. What about
Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year. Well, this is like the
Speaker 1: starting of a theme for me, but I am going
Speaker 1: Tray Lance. I'm not worried about week one. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: long game. I'm thinking that team is going to be good,
Speaker 1: and I think the quarterback on the best the rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback on the best team, probably wins this award, and
Speaker 1: I think that'll be Tray Lanes Badger Jalen Waddle for me.
Speaker 1: The opportunity is there waiting for Will Fuller to get back,
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna throw the ball. I think two was
Speaker 1: gonna have a solid year and just statistically he's gonna
Speaker 1: edge out the guys like Chase Um probably, you know,
Speaker 1: Davante Smith, You're gonna have to be a monster to
Speaker 1: beat out these rookie quarterbacks, You're gonna have to be
Speaker 1: a monster. Could happen. They could kind of cancel each
Speaker 1: other out and he could have a monster you or
Speaker 1: they could just be like, Okay, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be good. I believe could just uh, Justin Jefferson did
Speaker 1: not win. No, correct. J Brown had an unbelievable year
Speaker 1: and lost to Kyler Murray, who had an average year
Speaker 1: and he actually a j Brown came in third behind
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, who didn't even play the last game of
Speaker 1: the season that year. And the last year Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: had like four hundred yards and still lost. I mean,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert did set the recurver. You need a grave
Speaker 1: digger of sound effect here when you're making good points
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, let's get that. Let's get that. What
Speaker 1: they have the monster truck racing. And remember it would
Speaker 1: always be like grave digger. Every time you make a
Speaker 1: salient point, bang, hit us with a grave digger. All right,
Speaker 1: I'll need an objective person to tell me when to
Speaker 1: hit it right now? All right? Um? Oh, Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: is okay, that's my choice. And I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be great, and I believe in him and he's the
Speaker 1: best quarterback ever. Next defensive rookie of the year, I
Speaker 1: went chalk here and Michael Parsons. I really think even
Speaker 1: before training camp he would have been near, if not
Speaker 1: at the top of my list. He probably is the favorite.
Speaker 1: I haven't actually looked, but he should be the favorite
Speaker 1: because he looks incredible and that's a position that you
Speaker 1: can get noticed easily. You know, you're not playing You're
Speaker 1: not on an island playing cornerback. You're not even Chase Young.
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, have you had a great season, but
Speaker 1: you only ended up with X amount of sacks. It's
Speaker 1: like everyone else see Michael Parsons all the time. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I have that as well, and just waiting
Speaker 1: for that other shoe to drop with a trade of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to really clear the path for him and
Speaker 1: any other distractions that might be lingering in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Gregory Rousseau. Uh. The rookie up
Speaker 1: in Buffalo has has had some pop in the preseason.
Speaker 1: As much as I said, preseason doesn't matter, Uh, he
Speaker 1: still showed the skills that you know you can't you
Speaker 1: can't teach, right you can't make somebody have long arms.
Speaker 1: You can't make somebody six seven. And I think in
Speaker 1: draft season, right he got like, uh he was shirtless
Speaker 1: right with Jalen Phillips his his Miami counterpart at defensive end,
Speaker 1: and Phillips was impressive physically and people are like a
Speaker 1: Russo took the year off. I don't know, He's done
Speaker 1: nothing but play. He beat Panay Sul in the preseason
Speaker 1: game and he looks great, So why not? Gregor was
Speaker 1: got of good things there. How about Comeback Player of
Speaker 1: the Year. Oh, I just think Christian McCaffrey is gonna
Speaker 1: put up the numbers that it's gonna for whatever this
Speaker 1: this award is about. Um Like last year Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: all he had to do is get back on the field,
Speaker 1: and it made it was a no brainer that he
Speaker 1: would get it. This is gonna be to me more
Speaker 1: traditional type of year where who's gonna have a huge year,
Speaker 1: who has hurt last year. Christian McCaffrey is my piccause
Speaker 1: I think have sixteen seventeen, eighteen hundred total yards and
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns and that's gonna be tough to beat. Dak
Speaker 1: felt like the basic picks I wanted to be you know,
Speaker 1: a little cute, you know, a little more creative than that.
Speaker 1: So I went Nick Bosa just because I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone kind of forgot about as a person, as an
Speaker 1: amazing player, and he's coming back from the big injury too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Last time I talked to you guys, I said, Darwin
Speaker 1: is gonna have a huge year. I think Darwin is
Speaker 1: the comeback player of the year. This is good. This
Speaker 1: is a great field for comeback Player of the Year
Speaker 1: this year because all those make a lot of sense. Um,
Speaker 1: who do you have for comeback player of the Year?
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, I would go Chalky Dak just because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to get so much media attention. I mean,
Speaker 1: listen to that, because I'm glad you said that. So
Speaker 1: we threwout the names Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey, Derwin James,
Speaker 1: and Nick Bosa. WHOA, that's some beef in there, sake.
Speaker 1: Jan could be in there if you wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: they would have to. Well, what about like Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: if he's already won it once just for sucking and
Speaker 1: then having a good year, But what if he came
Speaker 1: out of retirement in December? I want to award. First
Speaker 1: of all, like that year that he quote like sucked.
Speaker 1: He was like, I always look back to this, he
Speaker 1: like finished seventeenth in my QB Index. Although I'm a
Speaker 1: homer for Philip Rivers, so maybe you have to adjust
Speaker 1: that down. It's like he was fine, and they should
Speaker 1: make that an award, Like I guess that would be
Speaker 1: most improved. They don't have the most improved, Like like
Speaker 1: Sam Donald to me would be a better Comeback Player
Speaker 1: of the Year Canada. But he's never gonna win that.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna win that because he's gonna first. He
Speaker 1: would have to play well. But even if he did,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't win it against all these superstars who are
Speaker 1: just like better. It doesn't make you'd be so mad
Speaker 1: if Sam Donald won, I would be wrong. I would
Speaker 1: be mad, and I would I would not I don't
Speaker 1: like being wrong, and so then I would be mad.
Speaker 1: Here right about Jameis Winston, Yeah, I mean, all right,
Speaker 1: what about a Coach of the Year. I'm going Kyle
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan again, continuing my forty and I gave him
Speaker 1: three awards. I gave him both a Jim Lance, I
Speaker 1: gave him Kyle I just think they're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: And I think I know who you're gonna pick for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. By the way, and he's feeling himself too.
Speaker 1: We talked about it with this quarterback shuffle. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's I'll have to go somebody off the Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan coaching tree. It's the entire league. So you know,
Speaker 1: people who want to give me a hard time, like, oh,
Speaker 1: DNN talks about the Jets too much, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this podcast since two thousand thirteen. We've
Speaker 1: done like episodes and that team has never even they
Speaker 1: sniffed the playoffs once. It's been a real rough run
Speaker 1: for the Jets in the history of this podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to have some optimism. I do. I sincerely believe
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson has a chance to have a breakout rookie season.
Speaker 1: And I really like the direction of that franchise with
Speaker 1: Robert Sala And I don't know, would have to look
Speaker 1: back at the history of that award. Um do they
Speaker 1: give it? Like did Brian Flores get it that year
Speaker 1: where they really competed? Um? Do you have to win?
Speaker 1: Multiple vote? He did get some votes, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't win. The Jets might win six or seven games,
Speaker 1: but if they're going in the right direction, I feel
Speaker 1: like he should be in the conversation. You might need
Speaker 1: to win at least. I feel like you gotta have
Speaker 1: a winning record. Maybe go to the year that's how
Speaker 1: So let's do that, Rob Alright. If you look at
Speaker 1: the last ten years, they all had not only winning records,
Speaker 1: but like extremely good records, And Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's always the way to look at it. I
Speaker 1: think maybe it's time to have a different perspective. And
Speaker 1: it looks like of winners of the last ten years
Speaker 1: were in their first year with the team, So there
Speaker 1: is a lot of It's a lot of like Ditoron
Speaker 1: going thirteen and three, Like if David Culley right went
Speaker 1: eight and nine this year with that team, how would
Speaker 1: he not be in consideration for that a war? I
Speaker 1: think he should be. But all right, the the the year,
Speaker 1: it seemed like the Jets were rolling out that Abraham's
Speaker 1: tank for Todd Bowls and they and they managed to
Speaker 1: get all those wins. I was saying all season the
Speaker 1: Todd Bulls should win Comes of the Year that year.
Speaker 1: But it just it didn't materialize. Flores was my guy
Speaker 1: throughout last year, and I think he would have been
Speaker 1: a fine pick. And yet by the end, no one
Speaker 1: wanted to hear because they didn't make the playoffs, even
Speaker 1: though they totally overachieved a year ago. We gotta get
Speaker 1: Claybon to make up in like ten minutes here, alright,
Speaker 1: grave digger, let's cycle through the rest of us. All right,
Speaker 1: we gotta go playoff picks. So a division winner for
Speaker 1: each division and then three wild card teams from each conference.
Speaker 1: Maybe let's let's rip off like the a f C
Speaker 1: division winners. Does anyone have all throughout mine? In which
Speaker 1: are pretty pretty chalky? But it's Bills, Ravens, Titans in
Speaker 1: Chiefs to either of you have any differences there? I
Speaker 1: have Bills Ravens, and I wanted to get cute with
Speaker 1: the South, so I just went with the Cults and
Speaker 1: once another company player of the Year guy potentially and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. No, none of us have the Browns. That
Speaker 1: feels uh feels tough? All right? Well, what about the
Speaker 1: wild card? I have the Steelers, Titans, and Browns. What
Speaker 1: do you guys, Dolphins, Broncos, Steelers. Oh so you left.
Speaker 1: You left the Browns out of the places on this one.
Speaker 1: I don't listening. I don't feel good. I know it
Speaker 1: really kept me up. Um. I thought about it a
Speaker 1: lot because I was just like, well, maybe Mark won't
Speaker 1: even notice you in the hospital if you don't have
Speaker 1: the Browns on this. Like. I also looked at this
Speaker 1: because I know how that NFL dot com article comes
Speaker 1: out and it's just like fourteen people picked this team,
Speaker 1: and like no one picked this and it's only just
Speaker 1: like you kind of want to like have it a
Speaker 1: little more representative, like spread it out. So I wanted
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Broncos and the Patriots to get
Speaker 1: some love. I didn't think that the Dolphins would maybe
Speaker 1: get much love whatsoever. The Claybroon did it so uh
Speaker 1: and he gave the Broncos some love too. We are
Speaker 1: too much on the same Sessler. I want you to
Speaker 1: make note I have the Browns as a wild card
Speaker 1: team playing relevant January football. Patrick Clayban, Greg Rosenthal. No,
Speaker 1: we want to motivate the Browns who will now try
Speaker 1: hard because we have I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: totally buy that. That's what I mean. Like, I really
Speaker 1: wanted to I was thinking tired about the Chargers too,
Speaker 1: uh there, and and love so many teams, Greg, that's
Speaker 1: your problem. It's not so much love, like yes, but
Speaker 1: I don't you think like the Steelers, it could be good,
Speaker 1: that the Browns should be good. But I could see
Speaker 1: it going a little sideways. Tough schedule and the Chargers
Speaker 1: to those are like three teams that didn't even make
Speaker 1: my my playoff list anyways, alright, FC Division winners. All right,
Speaker 1: I got Washington, Green Bay, Tampa, and Los Angeles chalky
Speaker 1: as hell. I went with the forty Niners in the West. Really,
Speaker 1: I think they need to stay healthy. The fact that
Speaker 1: they had like a healthy camp for the first time
Speaker 1: in the Shanahan era like gave me the vibes. That's like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe the health luck is turning around. I just think
Speaker 1: they can be a Jugger, not if if things go right.
Speaker 1: So I went forty Niners, Bucks Packers, And at the
Speaker 1: last second I switched it to the Cowboys. I just
Speaker 1: I just think I always say quarterbacks and offense, and
Speaker 1: so it just didn't feel right. I switched it to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that they not You remember I earlier in
Speaker 1: the offseason, I said I will not pick the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I know. And I said this, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I almost did it, and I said no, I must
Speaker 1: be a man of my own word. So Washington about you, Claibon, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've made no such promise in me and Greg do
Speaker 1: think too much alike. The only difference is I've got
Speaker 1: Seattle and Russ in the West. Um in the Niners
Speaker 1: in that first wild card spot. Okay, so all right,
Speaker 1: so I have wild Card one to three Niners, Seahawks, Vikings.
Speaker 1: Uh what do you have, Patrick, I've got I've got
Speaker 1: three West teams making the playoffs. Uh, the Niners, Los
Speaker 1: Angeles and then New Orleans sneaking in in the wild card.
Speaker 1: I like that. That's either some onions hanging there about you. Greg,
Speaker 1: I had no, it's this one like say that doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: and then somehow it's like, well Jamis and his Sean
Speaker 1: pay and um, I did not have the Seahawks in though,
Speaker 1: you know, because you have I had to leave a
Speaker 1: team out. I have, um, you know, the Rams, the
Speaker 1: Vikings also making the playoffs. I think the defense is
Speaker 1: going to be good. And yeah, the Saints is my
Speaker 1: last team. Interesting, good offensive line. Hawks didn't make it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What about your Super Bowl matchups and winners?
Speaker 1: All right? Did you guys write your blurb? Want to
Speaker 1: just read our blurbs? Sure? I got Chiefs over Rams.
Speaker 1: The pairing of Sean McVeigh and Matthew Stafford proved to
Speaker 1: be a smashing success. But even in excellent Rams, defense
Speaker 1: could not figure out Patrick Mahomes Comma, who followed up
Speaker 1: his second NFL m v P award with another Super
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Period. Well, if you if you think it
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough juice, then you can still change it.
Speaker 1: You should go. I always go for a hyper specific
Speaker 1: prediction there, just in case one year you get it right.
Speaker 1: So I went. I went forty Niners over Ravens. Um.
Speaker 1: I had the Chiefs initially, but then I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna pick the forty Niners to win, you
Speaker 1: might as well just go go balls out here, uh
Speaker 1: and my sentences. Trey Lance becomes the first rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: to lead his team to a Super Bowl title. Fred
Speaker 1: Warner tips Lamar Jackson's potential game winning throw at the
Speaker 1: buzzer hyper specifically, I don't I don't know, okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: The tray Land is gonna win the super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: Tray Lance wins a Super Bowl and warners like Lamar
Speaker 1: has him open, makes a great throw, But but Fred
Speaker 1: Warner diving immortal play that you remember you have a
Speaker 1: different outlook on the whole exercise. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: what you want to happen in your dreams of the
Speaker 1: best NFL season. Um this time? Yeah, because when I
Speaker 1: went with more like tryn just get it right, and
Speaker 1: I've tried. I've kept trying to do that, and that's
Speaker 1: I always get it so wrong. That's why it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll just pick what I want, all right, Patrick, what
Speaker 1: do you got a storybook ending in Hollywood? Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: walks off the field a champion as Patrick Mahomes loses
Speaker 1: his second consecutive Super Bowl. I like that. I thought
Speaker 1: hard about going Packers all the way too. I feel
Speaker 1: like they're not getting like a lot of love for
Speaker 1: a team that absolutely has a chance to win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and might have the best quarterback, absolutely Devil's advocate,
Speaker 1: and maybe their defense is better this year. But if
Speaker 1: they weren't able to get over the hump with Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers having an all time season at thirty eight or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't happen last year, is not gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Balls not round hey and maybe that helps.
Speaker 1: Who knows. That got me really excited, um, because it
Speaker 1: is just a reminder even though we've been doing this
Speaker 1: forever and all, you know, we've all been NFL fans
Speaker 1: since we were we boys at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: season so fun. It's just like they can go in
Speaker 1: so many different directions. Um. So we get to now
Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. And that's one of
Speaker 1: the great things about this podcast. Like we tracked that boys,
Speaker 1: we track how the season plays out after all the
Speaker 1: hype throughout the spring and summer. It'd be weird if
Speaker 1: we just like we're an off season pot. We're just
Speaker 1: like you next in February. We're so anti climactic. Now,
Speaker 1: you're right. I love I love that feeling. Um. I'm
Speaker 1: glad it still hits me and it is hitting me
Speaker 1: and it will more, you know. With Week one, which
Speaker 1: I always think is like the best week of the year,
Speaker 1: but there there is something about it. I'm still a
Speaker 1: sucker for the NFL, which is good. Well that's good.
Speaker 1: Otherwise podcast would probably suck. Patrick, thanks again, and yes,
Speaker 1: watch Patrick all season on Fantasy Live on Nfilm Network.
Speaker 1: And uh, I believe if we can grab you a
Speaker 1: little more of your time next week, you'll be joining
Speaker 1: us for another special episode. Let's do it alright, beautiful
Speaker 1: there he goes Patrick Clayban. Uh and yes, well soon,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. We told Mark do not worry about getting back.
Speaker 1: He's bummed out because he knows he's missing these ramp
Speaker 1: up shows. But it's very important to him, uh and
Speaker 1: to us and his family that he handles the recuperation
Speaker 1: the right way. Um, So get well soon, Quiet Storm
Speaker 1: Until Thursday, he's the car m