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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Kerry NFL Network through the

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Speaker 1: off season. Yeah, welcome to another edition to Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens. I come to

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Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claibon. Now, did we carry NFL Network anywhere? No?

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Speaker 1: Are we on NFL Network? Yes? In fact, all three

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Speaker 1: of us are on NFL Network. A whole bunch, um.

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Speaker 1: And so before I throw two boys, let me just

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Speaker 1: really quickly go through this because the season is less

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Speaker 1: than two weeks away, now ten days away, really eleven

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Speaker 1: something like that before the Thursday night game. Here's what's

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Speaker 1: to come on this program. How's this? Greg? A little

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Speaker 1: set up just to get people caught up what's going on?

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Speaker 1: I like it today Today, Today, we're gonna do some

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Speaker 1: season predictions. Okay, We're gonna go through um an email

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Speaker 1: that a colleague of ours, Gennaro Police as a police um,

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Speaker 1: sends out every year and make a bunch of predictions

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Speaker 1: for one that's fun. We will have another special guest

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Speaker 1: on the show on Thursday, Steve Wish, and next week

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Speaker 1: we will do our annual Sandwich Props are Week one

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Speaker 1: preview our week one recap the Thursday night opener and

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Speaker 1: the debut we believe of our new two hour around

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Speaker 1: the NFL broadcast and that's a bum bom. And that's

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Speaker 1: in addition to the return of Power Rankings with Me

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Speaker 1: and Money, NFL game debut with Rosie as some call him,

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Speaker 1: never me Hawk, and Cynthia and yes, Patrick Claiban with

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy program. How about that getting the plugs

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Speaker 1: out early. That's a lot. We're doing a lot of stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I will say it's a it's one organism right

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Speaker 1: there there. We're all in and so we're all carrying

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Speaker 1: it together. But are fundamental your pillars, right, there's some likery.

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Speaker 1: We're getting more to carry these days. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of us. You know, we complained sometimes.

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Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a sign of encouragement. We're

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Speaker 1: certainly asked to do more than we were years ago.

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Speaker 1: That that's all three of us, because you're on Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Live almost every day now, right, yeah, four days this week, foys,

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Speaker 1: how about that? And you know it would be easier

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Speaker 1: hill of the NFL season with Mark Cesler. Unfortunately, Mark

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Speaker 1: not back with us yet, as you've probably told. But

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Speaker 1: you know if you follow the show, Mark has been

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Speaker 1: dealing with issues with blood clots. He's been in and

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Speaker 1: figure things out and the path going forward. He's in

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Speaker 1: he's in good spirits. You have to believe me on this.

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Speaker 1: He's going in the right direction. But it's a complex

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Speaker 1: issue here and he's uh kind of the men at

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Speaker 1: home this week. So we're hoping to have him back

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's like what Jerry Jones says about Dak Prescott. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if week one was today, he'd be on the field.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Mark would be on the podcast

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Speaker 1: off week one was today. But not to make light

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Speaker 1: of it, we miss Mark. We want him back. We

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Speaker 1: It's all. It's all happened. Yes, get will soon. He's

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Speaker 1: already started. How does this happen? Who green lit it?

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Speaker 1: And was there any way you could have stopped at, Justin?

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Speaker 1: next week. Patrick, as you did on the network show

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the new West Coast home of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Colleen Wolf and it is my sincere pleasure to

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Speaker 1: One more thing to note. I asked for Justin to

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that in a new podcast studio. You know,

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Speaker 1: Keisha is at work today, like a lot of employees,

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Speaker 1: people are coming next week. And yeah, that's the plan.

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Speaker 1: start with what's going on down in New Orleans. New

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Speaker 1: that if Cam's starting. I'm kind of the mind, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it makes that huge of a difference

427
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Speaker 1: who starts Weak one. It is a really long season,

428
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Speaker 1: and like, I think they can win with either quarterback,

429
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: and I don't know, there's not much separating two and

430
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Speaker 1: Gilmore is like Patrick said, is it is a much

431
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Speaker 1: bigger deal. The one reason that sit mac Jones is

432
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: he did have some like like delay of games and

433
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: struggles in the two minutes things that you would expect

434
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Speaker 1: out of rookie quarterbacks throughout the preseason, which I think

435
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: maybe registers in Bill Belichick's mind that like, Okay, this

436
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: guy is maybe not a percent ready. I'm curious, um

437
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Speaker 1: how much if you ask defensive coordinators and just got

438
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Speaker 1: their unvarnished opinions when you hear that things, Oh, the

439
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: coach coach X is not going to decide who the

440
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Speaker 1: quarterback is, so the other team has to prepare for

441
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Speaker 1: both quarterbacks. Is that actually a huge pain in the

442
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Speaker 1: butt or is that like is the defense able to

443
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Speaker 1: adjust either way? I'm just curious about that these two

444
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are so different, and you would you would kind

445
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Speaker 1: of think the offenses would be so different with the

446
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Speaker 1: two of them that I think at least Belichick would

447
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Speaker 1: like to maintain that advantage. I mean, when when a doubt,

448
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: Belichick is gonna say nothing. I mean, that's typically what

449
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: his m O is. So none of this is a surprise. Really,

450
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be a surprise if he came out

451
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: and said anything like about this before Week one, Right,

452
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: probably get anything. I don't think you're gonna get anything.

453
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's different. Like I think Tom Current made

454
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: at this point that he thought he thinks when Belichick

455
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: saw the new NFL schedule that he was all about it,

456
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,959
Speaker 1: because you can start preparing for Week one now, so

457
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the field preparing for your Week

458
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: one opponent more than any other game that you'll ever

459
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: play except for the super Bowl. And if you don't

460
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: think guys like Belichick and Andy Reid are going to

461
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Speaker 1: cook up some fun stuff for Week one and want

462
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Speaker 1: to like hide everything possible, like they're they're app that's

463
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Speaker 1: exactly what Bill Belichick's gonna do. And and like maybe

464
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Speaker 1: maybe they do a little rotation, a little Mac Jones

465
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Speaker 1: and Cam Newton. I was gonna say, I would see

466
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Speaker 1: a situation where Bill Belichick knows he has arguably the

467
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Speaker 1: best goal line weapon in the history of the National

468
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Speaker 1: Football UM, and he's gonna use him throughout the season

469
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Speaker 1: when he's available, UM, and they're better team than they

470
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: were last year's I wouldn't put it past him to

471
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Speaker 1: start one guy one week and start the other guy

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Speaker 1: another week, depending on the team in the situation. Cam's luck.

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Speaker 1: Cam had a good camp, because otherwise he would have

474
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Speaker 1: lost the job because Mac Jones ultimately did better, I

475
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Speaker 1: think than than anyone could have expected in his first

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Speaker 1: camp in his first prese who starts first, Trey Lancer

477
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, I would go Mac jun I don't know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll go Trey Lance. In other quarterback news, the Eagles

479
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: acquire Gardner means Shoo the Warrior from the Jaguars for

480
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Speaker 1: a conditional sixth round pick. The move comes a couple

481
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Speaker 1: of days after the Jaguars named Trevor Lawrence their Week

482
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Speaker 1: one starter and one of the bigger, bigger shocks of

483
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Speaker 1: the summer. So Minshew joins the quarterback room in Philly

484
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: that includes Jalen Hurtz and also Joe Flacco, what does

485
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Speaker 1: this mean? Greg Rosenthal, have I have some thoughts. I

486
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Speaker 1: want to hear your thoughts. You had a great tweet

487
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Speaker 1: about it. It's just like it's not a healthy relationship,

488
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: but right now between the Eagles and Hurts, so that well,

489
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Speaker 1: I guess my point was like, yeah, I feel like

490
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Speaker 1: quietly they're in an unhealthy relationship. And I got I.

491
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Speaker 1: I think you guys have all been well. Clayboon, I

492
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: know you have UM and I know Greg of course

493
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: as well, Like you'll send us a tweet out and

494
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: you know you won't think much of it, and then

495
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Speaker 1: for some reason it strikes a chord, sometimes positively, sometimes negatively.

496
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what Eaggles fans and I don't

497
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't really know too too many Eagles

498
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: fans outside of Connie and Gonzo and a few others

499
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: because I am a Jet fan and an a f

500
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: C guy when I was growing up. And but they

501
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: were on fire. They were so pissed at me that

502
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: I need to sinuated. I mean, if you went my mentions,

503
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: you would see hundreds. Maybe I must have gotten like

504
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: quote retweeted by some popular whether it's like a blog

505
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: or a calumnist or something, because they had their knives

506
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Speaker 1: out for me insinuating that Jalen Hurts and the Eagles

507
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: are on unsteady ground on any level. It was being

508
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: told that it was a fake narrative and tire needs

509
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: to go away. But I'm not basing this off on

510
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: just like I don't know, like I just parachuted in totally.

511
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: This is an Eagles team that has been connected on

512
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: some level uh through reports to Deshaun Watson uh that

513
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: uh now is traded for Gardner Minshew. Uh. We were

514
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Speaker 1: connected to taking a quarterback in the draft in reports,

515
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: and the Eagles have as a ship they leak like

516
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Speaker 1: the Titanic. So I just feel like there's a lot

517
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 1: of stuff coming out of that building, and I'm just

518
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: saying that's the way it feels. I didn't say the

519
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: way it is, but I thought it was funny the

520
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: response to the victual Eagles fans don't want to hear that. Well,

521
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: it's telling right that they're so angry about it. It's

522
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Speaker 1: probably got some it's it's so true right now. I

523
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Speaker 1: I thought I defended the Eagles for like not naming

524
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Speaker 1: him the starter all summer because what does it really matter.

525
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Speaker 1: He was getting all the first team reps. I do

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Speaker 1: think they're making his if you know, Jalen Hurts a

527
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: little tougher. That's a weird. It's a weird quarterback room.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of thought, like his Flacco really gonna

529
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Speaker 1: be on this team and the cuts the cutdown day

530
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: is Tuesday. We're taping this on Monday, so we have

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Speaker 1: to assume right now Flac will be on this team.

532
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make sense. Why would you have Flacco

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Speaker 1: a Minshew. I've kind of guessing. I kind of guessing

534
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Speaker 1: they trade Flacco for like a conditional seventh or something

535
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Speaker 1: to the Falcons, and he's not on this team, and

536
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: that Minshew's the backup, and that's an upgrade at backup. Greg,

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Speaker 1: Greg meant they just traded for Minshew of her conditional

538
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: sixth round pick. A conditional has not ended. Because this

539
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: is the most discussed conditional sixth round pick trade of

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Speaker 1: all time for a third string quarterback. That's that's why

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Speaker 1: I think like he was a high quality. Yeah, but

542
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: he's not a normal conditional six. We talked about Sony Michelle.

543
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: That's not different. Here's what I'm saying though, Like don't

544
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Speaker 1: you think he's one of the best backup quarterbacks in

545
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Speaker 1: the league. Now, if he was Greg, I'm a asuming

546
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Speaker 1: that the value would have been more than a conditional

547
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Speaker 1: sixth round. Also, let me say this, because I know

548
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Speaker 1: what you're saying, we shouldn't be making that big a

549
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: deal because it's Gardner Minshew. But at the same time,

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00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: he's kind of like the New generations. He's the gen

551
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Speaker 1: Z version of Ryan Fitzpatrick. And just watch out here.

552
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: If Jalen Hurts struggles, that's the difference I'm saying, so

553
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: does so can Ryan Fitzpatrick. What I'm saying is he's

554
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: a guy that people get behind. He's he's got the mustache,

555
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a folk hero down in Duval

556
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: And I wonder if this is just going to make

557
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: things a little bit that much harder for Jalen Hurts

558
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: if you truly believe in the guy. And while we're

559
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: on the subject of things that, to me, we're a

560
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: little curious what's going on with urban Meyer, who was

561
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: taken away first team reps from Trevor Lawrence all summer,

562
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: giving it to a guy who even traded for a

563
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: conditional sixth round pick. What's that about? What are we

564
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Speaker 1: doing here? It's the mania, stupid, It's the mania. The

565
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: mania is real and and and I understand that Gardner

566
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Speaker 1: Minshew has played um, but the people that are going

567
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: to call for him the minute Jalen makes one mistake

568
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: right and his you know eighth ever start in the NFL, um,

569
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: they're wrong too. Like we've seen Gardner Minshew. Uh, it's

570
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: the conditional sixth. I get it. He's a third year

571
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: player who has played a lot better than plenty of quarterbacks,

572
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: including some starters. Like I'm not a big Minshew fan,

573
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: but like, he's a better player than Sam Donald or

574
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Speaker 1: he has been. Like, and I know that the draft

575
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: picks wouldn't be the same, but it's just I don't

576
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: care that the fans are going to complain it. It's

577
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: the Flacco part of it that bothers me. And I

578
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: suspect Flacco won't won't be on that team. Like I

579
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: couldn't help but think when I heard Drew Lock lose

580
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: the job to Teddy Bridgewater and talk about how much

581
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: he had learned from Teddy Bridgewater in terms of how

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Speaker 1: he approached being a starting quarterback, how to talk to

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Speaker 1: his teammates, how to talk in the quarterback room, how

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Speaker 1: to how to like be a leader, how to be positive,

585
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, I never had that before, And I

586
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: was like, M, who are the veteran quarterbacks that, uh

587
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: that that you've been with just for Drew Loco, Yeah,

588
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: it was Joe Flacco, the guy who froze out Lamar

589
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: Jackson too. So that with this, you know what, I like,

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00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: Rosenthal and Claibon almost always on the same page. I

591
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: feel I like that there's some type of different opinion

592
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: here and this is something to try the starter in

593
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: week six. That's a great value. I think everybody's kind

594
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: of bought into this idea that Carson Wentz was bad

595
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: because he was mad and scared that the quarterback behind

596
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: him was good. And I just don't know. I don't

597
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: believe that, and so that causes me to fundamentally believe

598
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: different things about this current quarterback situation. To be clear,

599
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: I think it was a good trade by the Eagles.

600
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: You should add quarterbacks that are good for that cheap

601
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: of a price, that are under contract for two more years.

602
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters too much about Hurts, but

603
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: there will be that segment of the fan base that

604
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: will be annoying if they have a losing record at

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Speaker 1: any point. And well, let's let's check in with a

606
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Speaker 1: segment of that fan base while we're here. Let's welcome in. Hello,

607
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Speaker 1: eating raspberries. I'm sitting here and listening. This has been fun,

608
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: even on Yeah, we're gonna talk Okay, we're gonna talk

609
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Palindrome Gate with Connie in a second. But I just

610
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on, uh my song, great Digger,

611
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: it still goes, it's still on, it's still happening. So

612
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: Eagles fans absolutely to shreds this weekend. I saw actually

613
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: up that. First of all, did you were you behind that?

614
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: And don't stand on this means shoot thing? Now that

615
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: you got the warrior in that QB room, I well,

616
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: so as you guys were talking about it, I grabbed

617
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: out my raspberries and started just going through your comments

618
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: and it was hilarious. Uh, there were a lot of

619
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: takes on their many angry. I would say, I think

620
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: you only had like one quote tweet that was like

621
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. But people were just like

622
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: you're a loser, Like how was this tweet loud? And

623
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: it was just like all all sorts of crazy came out.

624
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: But I think that that's um an anomaly because Eagles

625
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: fans are usually very very even keeled. Um they don't

626
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: pop off about anything, especially not the quarterback. How do

627
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: you feel about it? Do you think do you think

628
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is the answer? I'm just I don't think

629
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation. I mean, we saw him for

630
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: like four games slash. It's I have no idea if

631
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: he's going to be the answer or not. And I

632
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: don't even know, Like I don't I don't think the Eagles, No,

633
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: sure they didn't take a quarterback, but I don't think

634
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: that that is really They can't base that off of

635
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: four games starting, and he really didn't have a ton

636
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: of work otherwise with like the first dring offense, and

637
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: there really wasn't even a first dring offense because everyone

638
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: was hurt. So it's kind of like a coin flip

639
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: at this point. And I think it's smart that the

640
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Eagles brought in other bodies. And I mean, look, I

641
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: don't think Joe Flacco is going to help out book Gardner,

642
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: and she's a really good backup, and Philadelphia loves a

643
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I forgot the one other thing that was

644
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: just on my radar that that ridiculous facata strategy they

645
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Speaker 1: had in week seventeen when they put Hurts on a

646
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: bench and brought in what's his face? Just a bunch

647
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: of weird stuff with the Eagles. Here's the thing, like, yeah,

648
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans love a backup, but sometimes those backups

649
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: are like a J feely and your quarterback Donovan McNabb,

650
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: And you've been totally unfair to Donovan McNabb throughout his

651
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: all that happens. That happens too. We still love a

652
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: J feely, Hey, Connie, um uh uh palindrome Gate. We

653
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: just got to address it because we're on some level,

654
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: we're an educational program. We seek to bring knowledge to

655
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: NFL fans and uh when we went down the road

656
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Speaker 1: of you were kind of hung up on a cam

657
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: Mac and you said, it's that problem. What did you

658
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: call it? And then I said, and then I said, oh,

659
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: is it a palindrome? And then I looked it up

660
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: and I read the definition of a palindrome. And then

661
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: you guys like, oh, that's it. And then like Paul

662
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Rudd like said some nice words to me, and then

663
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: we kind of and then we just move forward. But

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Speaker 1: as it turns out, um, Cam and Mac not a palindrome.

665
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: In fact, like taco cat is a palindrome, Race Car

666
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: is a pald Madame former Detroit Tigers backup catcher the eighties. Um,

667
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: what was his name? Matt Salis Salad the number one

668
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: thousand one that you know that that would be a palindrome.

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Speaker 1: Cam and Mac is not that, But Connie is we

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00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: saw some other things out there. Does it actually have

671
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: Is there a word that connects Cam and mac or

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Speaker 1: is it just two words? I think that so the palindrome,

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00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: it's the same words spelled front back, but the more

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to pronounce it. A more

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00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: than a lap, which is palindrome backward. That no, I

676
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: don't think so I think there is. I've been. That

677
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: was the other thing I was doing while I was

678
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: listening to the parts of the show, was looking up

679
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: definitions of a more than nil lap and uh, that's

680
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a different word spelled backward, and there is some debate

681
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: whether or not that's a word at all. I also

682
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: saw some mordni lap, which is palindrome's plural backwards so,

683
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: um yeah, still a lot of debate here, and I

684
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: think we do need some type of English language expert

685
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: to come on the show. I'm thoroughly confused. Yeah, Ham

686
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: and Mac, I mean didn't so I'm someone who transport

687
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: is a real thing. I mean yeah, so Mac really

688
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: had me. Are just messing with us by doing because

689
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: that feels like something that would be made up to

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00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't know to make it. It's in an article

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00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: on NPR dot org and from two thousand and fifteen,

692
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: and just to put a bow on it, Um, what

693
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: happened on the last show? Um, So Colleen was wrong

694
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: and then Dan was wrong, and I all I did

695
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: is I mentioned palindrome. I didn't say that was the answer,

696
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: and I read the definition and then you guys all

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00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: agreed and congratulated me, and then we moved on. I

698
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Speaker 1: never said that was the answer, So I was never

699
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: technically wrong. I just want to get and we just

700
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Speaker 1: need to redact all of the congratulations and everything else

701
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: your way. You can't take that back a bunch of dummies. Connie,

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00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us for palindrome gate. You know,

703
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I added so much to the show today. And Morgan

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00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: lap I don't know, pick up that guitar behind you

705
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: and play us out. I would all right, bad connection.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you guys later. She goes Connie Fox, all right,

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00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: let's finish up the news quickly and then we'll get

708
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Speaker 1: into predictions. The Vikings news. Harrison Smith signs a new deal. IRB.

709
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Speaker 1: Smith out for a while with an injury. Greg, I'll

710
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: tee you up that way. Yeah, I was. I was

711
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: already for the IRV Smith breakout season. They that's another

712
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: team that's had some bad vibes in the in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings, just if you watch them, played football. The

714
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: football has been ugly on the field. But Harrison Smith

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Speaker 1: yet one one of the all time great Vikings. Give

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00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: him his money, paithe Man baith Man. He's been solid

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: at that position. And there were people arguing because some

718
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: people want their saying they want safeties to be ed

719
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: read only Ed Reid can be at read. You still

720
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: need box, guys. And that's why there were people that

721
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: were upset about Jamal Adam steal. They were saying it

722
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: was too much. Was actually great value and I think

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Speaker 1: the Vikings got a great value here in Harrison Smith.

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00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: The safety's the league wide is still underpaid. Still, one

725
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: of my favorite memories in the history of my time

726
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: here at NFL is when me and Chris Brockman, the

727
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: producer or um and sidekick on the Rich Eyes and Show,

728
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: went to the Oscars and we were supposed to go

729
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: with Gronk, and then Gronk had a surgery, so they

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Speaker 1: got Ed Reid to fill in last second, right after

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Speaker 1: the Ravens won that Super Bowl. And remember us driving

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00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: in a limo to pick up Ed Reid at the

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Speaker 1: hotel on the west side of l A and like

734
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Speaker 1: waiting in the lobby, me and Brockman in full tuxedos

735
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: for like forty five minutes waiting for Ed to come downstairs,

736
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Speaker 1: and then spending the whole day with Ed and his

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00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: his buddy, and um, that was a great memory, much better,

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Speaker 1: much better than it would have been with Gronk. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'll due respect, I think so. I think Ed Reid

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00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun and a good guy. All right,

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00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Shack Lawson, hopefully for the Jets will

742
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: be a decent fill in for Carl Lawson, who of

743
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: course blew as Achilles Uh a couple of weeks back

744
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: and that position. That edge rusher is such an important

745
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: role for um Robert sale on defense. So Jack Lawson

746
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: acquired uh in a trade for a late round pick.

747
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: And also former Jet Brett Perry not Brett Perriman. What

748
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: is it again? Why am I? Of course? But Perriman

749
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: the former Jet. He signed a one year deal with

750
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: the Lions earlier this offseason. He didn't make the team,

751
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: he gets cut. Greg that that wide receiver group in

752
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: Detroit is is rough. And the fact that Perriman couldn't

753
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: even make the team, that's that's no bueno all the

754
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: all the more reason to pick up I'm on st Brown.

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00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: I forgot who's sleeper that was? It was that Liz

756
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: Lowses sleeper. I liked it, though, Uh yeah, it's very

757
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: rare to give a guy two million dollars and then

758
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: cut him. That's that might be the highest paid player

759
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: that signed this offseason that did not make the team,

760
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: although Shack Lawson, who got traded from the Texans, is

761
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: up there. And I do wonder if the Jets are

762
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: taking advantage of this week and a half build up

763
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: to the season to just kind of take a look

764
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: at him, and he's not guaranteed to make the team,

765
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: because anyone that could not make the Texans defense at

766
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: this point, you would figure something's going on and you

767
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: might struggle to make any any roster. There's a lot

768
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: going on with the Houston Texans right now, none of

769
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: it good. UM. And finally in the news, I just

770
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: want to hit on it. Yes, I mentioned the Ravens.

771
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: They won, they finished off that undefeated preseason. I looking

772
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: at the standings, did you guys check this out? The

773
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: here here are the records in the a f C

774
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: for the preseason. I'll go east to West ten one

775
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: and one, ten, ten and three, eight and four, nine

776
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: and three. And in the NFC in the East one

777
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: eleven and one, the North two and ten, the South

778
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: three and eight, the West four and seven. UM. Should

779
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: we read into any of this because there is absolutely

780
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Speaker 1: I think a disparity in talent and UM contenders. The

781
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: a f C, I think is far better than the

782
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: a f C right now. Is there a connection between

783
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Speaker 1: preseason action with a much derided preseason Patrick Levan and

784
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: what we're actually going to see coming up in in

785
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: terms of outcomes other than something like the j K.

786
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Dobbins injury. The only news you can get out of

787
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: this particular preseason is bad news. I don't think you

788
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: can draw anything. But we have a proliferation of coaches

789
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: who do not want to play anybody in the preseason

790
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: that's in in both conferences. I think it's impossible to

791
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: know anything, although it I agree it has nothing to

792
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: do with the season, and I also agree this is

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00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: the deepest AFC I've ever seen, or that since we've

794
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: been doing this job. I think I think there are

795
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: more good teams in the FC. I can't remember when

796
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: that was ever the case going into a season. I

797
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: guess we'll see if it holds up. But it is

798
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: a show of which teams took the preseason. Seriously, it

799
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: actually does match up like the Ravens, the Steelers, the Patriots,

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00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Uh, those are all the teams that didn't

801
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: lose the game or I don't think any of one

802
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: of those lost the game, as Steelers lost one, and

803
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: those are the teams that won the games, which that

804
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: there probably is like a one to one you know

805
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: thing there that they were playing their starters, whether whether

806
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: that's the right approach. The Dolphins or another team that

807
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: played their starters like throughout throughout the preseason. I don't

808
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if that's a good idea

809
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: or a bad idea, but it's it is pretty interesting

810
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: how different like some of the best coaches in the

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00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: league view it now like hard like these are good coaches,

812
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Hard bough Tomlin Flora's Belichick read and that so many

813
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: and I guess it happens to be in the NFC,

814
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: they're going the total opposite way. You see James Morgan,

815
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: hail Mary, his time expired and the two point conversion

816
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: the Jets escape with a tie against the Eagles. No,

817
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: but and I didn't I have to me, I didn't

818
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: know any of that. But I think you can actually

819
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: draw I'm taking a take from this game. The fact

820
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: that the Jet backups scored thirty one points in any

821
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: scenario is to me a sign of something. Oh, even

822
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: in the preseas, there's no way Adam Gates's backups are

823
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: scoring thirty one points. They couldn't They could never move

824
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: the ball. Even I watched those preseason games, it just

825
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: wasn't happening. There was well, I don't know. There was

826
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: an infamous Green and White scrimmage last summer where the

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00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: backups absolutely. It would be the backup against the starters

828
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: in a scrimmage at MetLife Stadium, UM and the backups

829
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: absolutely wipe the floor with the starters. It was because

830
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: they were just as good as that mono in four teams. Basically,

831
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: no more Adam Gates talk. That's what's happening in the news. Alright.

832
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: So every year, and this always sneaks up on me,

833
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things that, like same thing

834
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: with certain UM office mandated security videos you might have

835
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: to watch or I t learning things you have to do.

836
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: It just like sits in the corner of my brain,

837
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: like just nagging at me, you gotta do this, you

838
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: gotta watch this thing, take care of your corporate UM

839
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: corporate drone activity. When Gennaro sends out the email, hey

840
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: time for predictions for the season, Uh, that just sits

841
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: in the corner of my brain and I should just

842
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: do it right away, but I don't, and it just

843
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: sits there and then I'll get an email, hey man,

844
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: remember this, and then eventually I do it. Greg. I

845
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: applaud you because you had a great idea, which was

846
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: why don't we just do this email on the podcast

847
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: and making our predictions conversation for the season. I love it.

848
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: We're we're work shopping. You know, we could always I

849
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: did send one in, but we can change our answers.

850
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: If I think that's the best idea you've literally ever

851
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: had on the podcast. I think it's brilliant on three

852
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: different levels. I think this one will serve as the

853
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: official it's there, it's there, it's there. It's Gennaro's idea.

854
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: So that was really a backhanded compliment. That's what I'm

855
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: year and that was it. That was it, that was

856
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: the best idea. It's in the top three. I'll come

857
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: up with the top three at a later date for

858
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: the show. So anyway, let's bring in Justin the grave

859
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: digger I call him. It's gonna be digging Ricky's grave

860
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: if he continues to kill it in this production. Whoa Justin?

861
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: First of all, because i'd like your help with this,

862
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: if you could just kind of tee us up with

863
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: the different categories. I'd like you to get a plug

864
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: in for your Titans podcast. Let it really Oh wow,

865
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Yeah. So then Music City Audible

866
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: is a podcast we do every Friday previewing the upcoming

867
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: Titans game. Thank you but here we ever think of

868
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: taping it like earlier in the week, just to give

869
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: a little more a little more time for them to listen. Um,

870
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: we have thought about it. He's about the content, Greg,

871
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: He's not about he's not about views or listens. He

872
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: wants to give people what they what they How about

873
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: how about grave Figger says that, and you say, oh man,

874
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: I'd like to check that out. That sounds great. Everybody

875
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: should do the same. Why can't you do? That's just

876
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: heating them up over here, I'm not it's not heating

877
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: him up. It's like sometimes the producer needs a producer.

878
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: So it's just something to think about. Yeah, alright, you've

879
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: ruined everything again. Let's get into it. Uh So justin

880
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: tee us up and we'll Patrick, Greg and myself will

881
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: will share. So the way it breaks down just above

882
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: the tree tops, it's gonna be different. Um Awards predictions

883
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: and then playoff teams and then we'll all make our

884
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: super Bowl super Bowl pick where we stand on August.

885
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, let's we want to hold that for right

886
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: before the season starts. But now this is good, let's

887
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: just do it all right, Let's go on, dreful all right,

888
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: We'll start with the individual awards, beginning with the most

889
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Important Most Valuable Player m v P award. I'm a

890
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: basic bitch. I got my homes. Everybody else, yeah, super

891
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: chalky homes for me. I did. Yeah. I decided not

892
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: to get cute with it. Get cute with the other ones,

893
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: but not with my homes. Yeah. That this one is

894
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: just I just uh. It ain't a brave feeling, but

895
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: I just got a feeling this is gonna be one

896
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: of those seasons for the Ages with Patrick Mahomes Offensive Player.

897
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, no, see, I'm so used to doing it myself,

898
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: justin set the table. How about Offensive Player of the Year. Well,

899
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: I'll get this out of the way. I'm a conscientious

900
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: objector every year to this award. Um, I don't believe

901
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: in it. It's not a bit. Uh. I just think

902
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: even contributing to this answer, so I always just put nah,

903
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: always just. But now I used to say, hey, can

904
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: you can you print this sentence about how dumb an

905
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: award this is? Um? But they wouldn't. They didn't narrow,

906
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: they wouldn't, they wouldn't print it. So I just sit

907
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: this one out, Okay, Patrick Calvin Ridley I think he

908
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to get it a lot of catches

909
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: and perhaps you know, as Greg's previous objections to the ward,

910
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: it's the award itself in the way that it plays out.

911
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, maybe it's a maybe it's a spot I

912
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: could just give some pop to a player I like you.

913
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: It's it's a smart way to do it. Well, we

914
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: all of us. I have Kyler Murray. I think he's

915
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: gonna be the first guy to ever go four thousand,

916
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: one thousand and that type of statistical production, even though

917
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: his team's gonna go eight nine, it's going something that

918
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: lifts him to that award. And justin uh, just gonna

919
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: quiz you off the top of your head, who was

920
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: the offensive player of the Year in two thousand twenty.

921
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: That was Derrick Henry two thousand yeards? Whoa see that's

922
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: but Greg, look at it, look at it that way?

923
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: What have you done? The answer Claiban because I I

924
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't have, yes, Josh Allen. But to see doesn't that

925
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: in a way justify it, Greg, Because it's a quarterback

926
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: award m v P. Everybody knows that Rick Henry runs

927
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: for two thousand yards. It puts that team on his

928
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: back for like, just make that. Make that the award

929
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: non Quarterback award, because it is sometimes sometimes the same

930
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: guy wins m VP and Offensive Player of the Year

931
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: pretty often. Like so I don't understand why wouldn't just

932
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: be Mohammed Mahomes. Make it at the Non Quarterback award.

933
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: That's what they should do. About half of the last

934
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: m v P last ten years. M vps also one

935
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: of year, but only about half. Well that seems Yeah.

936
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: It's like when there's a good running back to to

937
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: vote for them, that guy wins it, but otherwise, or

938
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas when he set the reception records. But it's

939
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: like when a player like a receiver, quarterback or non

940
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: quarterback sets a record of some kind where becomes the

941
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: eighth player to run for two thousand yards, then they're like, okay,

942
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: a different person than the MVP can have it. So

943
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: offensive player there just be the guy who came second

944
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: in the MVP vote. Right, That's some sort of where

945
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm coming up. I mean, I know what you're saying, Like,

946
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm not putting that against it. I guess it's it's

947
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: a house of cards and we need, you know, award realignment,

948
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: like we'd have to change everything to fix the problems

949
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: with the individual awards. Yeah, to say nine QB, I

950
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: think that solves it. Well, why couldn't Aaron Donald win

951
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: m v P one year and then a QB went

952
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year exactly? Speaking of Aaron Donald,

953
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: how about Defensive Player of the year. Erica is in trouble, man,

954
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Miles Gear for me. I think I

955
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: think we we get the twenty SAX season that we've

956
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: been waiting for for Miles this year, especially maybe if

957
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: we get a healthy Clowney season that the Browns score

958
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: some points. Other teams were passing us Miles Gar I

959
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: like that one a lot. I thought about that, But

960
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Chris Jones, which I threw out there

961
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: as like, what's the the long ticket? Uh? If he's

962
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: even on the board, some someone, some listener, I think,

963
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: And we're not encouraging this, This is against the policy.

964
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: We are not encouraging any one to do anything. But

965
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: some listener took my Chris Jones Defensive Player of the

966
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Year thought and acted upon it. So I think that's

967
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: a it's a real long chat. I don't think It's like, yeah,

968
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: it's a real long chip, but I'm gonna go Chris Jones.

969
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: You know, Myles Garrett was my pick. And then when

970
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: I was filling out the document um, I blanked on it.

971
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: Put Aaron Donald and I could send a follow up

972
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: email to Gennaro, but I won't. I'll just keep it

973
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: and Aaron Don just to show him the love as

974
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: an all time great, He'll get my vote. What about

975
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Offensive Rookie of the Year. Well, this is like the

976
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: starting of a theme for me, but I am going

977
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Tray Lance. I'm not worried about week one. I'm thinking

978
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: long game. I'm thinking that team is going to be good,

979
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: and I think the quarterback on the best the rookie

980
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: quarterback on the best team, probably wins this award, and

981
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: I think that'll be Tray Lanes Badger Jalen Waddle for me.

982
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: The opportunity is there waiting for Will Fuller to get back,

983
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna throw the ball. I think two was

984
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: gonna have a solid year and just statistically he's gonna

985
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: edge out the guys like Chase Um probably, you know,

986
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: Davante Smith, You're gonna have to be a monster to

987
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: beat out these rookie quarterbacks, You're gonna have to be

988
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: a monster. Could happen. They could kind of cancel each

989
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: other out and he could have a monster you or

990
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: they could just be like, Okay, you're gonna have to

991
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: be good. I believe could just uh, Justin Jefferson did

992
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: not win. No, correct. J Brown had an unbelievable year

993
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: and lost to Kyler Murray, who had an average year

994
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: and he actually a j Brown came in third behind

995
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, who didn't even play the last game of

996
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: the season that year. And the last year Justin Jefferson

997
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: had like four hundred yards and still lost. I mean,

998
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert did set the recurver. You need a grave

999
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: digger of sound effect here when you're making good points

1000
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, let's get that. Let's get that. What

1001
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: they have the monster truck racing. And remember it would

1002
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: always be like grave digger. Every time you make a

1003
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: salient point, bang, hit us with a grave digger. All right,

1004
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: I'll need an objective person to tell me when to

1005
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: hit it right now? All right? Um? Oh, Zack Wilson

1006
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: is okay, that's my choice. And I think he's gonna

1007
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: be great, and I believe in him and he's the

1008
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: best quarterback ever. Next defensive rookie of the year, I

1009
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: went chalk here and Michael Parsons. I really think even

1010
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: before training camp he would have been near, if not

1011
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: at the top of my list. He probably is the favorite.

1012
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 1: I haven't actually looked, but he should be the favorite

1013
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: because he looks incredible and that's a position that you

1014
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: can get noticed easily. You know, you're not playing You're

1015
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: not on an island playing cornerback. You're not even Chase Young.

1016
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, have you had a great season, but

1017
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: you only ended up with X amount of sacks. It's

1018
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: like everyone else see Michael Parsons all the time. I'm

1019
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: with you. I have that as well, and just waiting

1020
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: for that other shoe to drop with a trade of

1021
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to really clear the path for him and

1022
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: any other distractions that might be lingering in the locker room.

1023
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Gregory Rousseau. Uh. The rookie up

1024
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: in Buffalo has has had some pop in the preseason.

1025
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: As much as I said, preseason doesn't matter, Uh, he

1026
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: still showed the skills that you know you can't you

1027
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: can't teach, right you can't make somebody have long arms.

1028
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: You can't make somebody six seven. And I think in

1029
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: draft season, right he got like, uh he was shirtless

1030
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: right with Jalen Phillips his his Miami counterpart at defensive end,

1031
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: and Phillips was impressive physically and people are like a

1032
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: Russo took the year off. I don't know, He's done

1033
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: nothing but play. He beat Panay Sul in the preseason

1034
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: game and he looks great, So why not? Gregor was

1035
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: got of good things there. How about Comeback Player of

1036
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: the Year. Oh, I just think Christian McCaffrey is gonna

1037
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: put up the numbers that it's gonna for whatever this

1038
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: this award is about. Um Like last year Alex Smith,

1039
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: all he had to do is get back on the field,

1040
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: and it made it was a no brainer that he

1041
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: would get it. This is gonna be to me more

1042
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: traditional type of year where who's gonna have a huge year,

1043
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: who has hurt last year. Christian McCaffrey is my piccause

1044
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: I think have sixteen seventeen, eighteen hundred total yards and

1045
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns and that's gonna be tough to beat. Dak

1046
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: felt like the basic picks I wanted to be you know,

1047
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: a little cute, you know, a little more creative than that.

1048
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: So I went Nick Bosa just because I feel like

1049
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: everyone kind of forgot about as a person, as an

1050
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: amazing player, and he's coming back from the big injury too. Yeah.

1051
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Last time I talked to you guys, I said, Darwin

1052
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: is gonna have a huge year. I think Darwin is

1053
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: the comeback player of the year. This is good. This

1054
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: is a great field for comeback Player of the Year

1055
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: this year because all those make a lot of sense. Um,

1056
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: who do you have for comeback player of the Year?

1057
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, I would go Chalky Dak just because the

1058
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to get so much media attention. I mean,

1059
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: listen to that, because I'm glad you said that. So

1060
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: we threwout the names Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey, Derwin James,

1061
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: and Nick Bosa. WHOA, that's some beef in there, sake.

1062
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: Jan could be in there if you wanted, you know,

1063
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: they would have to. Well, what about like Philip Rivers

1064
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: if he's already won it once just for sucking and

1065
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: then having a good year, But what if he came

1066
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: out of retirement in December? I want to award. First

1067
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: of all, like that year that he quote like sucked.

1068
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: He was like, I always look back to this, he

1069
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: like finished seventeenth in my QB Index. Although I'm a

1070
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: homer for Philip Rivers, so maybe you have to adjust

1071
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: that down. It's like he was fine, and they should

1072
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: make that an award, Like I guess that would be

1073
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: most improved. They don't have the most improved, Like like

1074
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: Sam Donald to me would be a better Comeback Player

1075
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: of the Year Canada. But he's never gonna win that.

1076
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: He's never gonna win that because he's gonna first. He

1077
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: would have to play well. But even if he did,

1078
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: he wouldn't win it against all these superstars who are

1079
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: just like better. It doesn't make you'd be so mad

1080
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: if Sam Donald won, I would be wrong. I would

1081
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: be mad, and I would I would not I don't

1082
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: like being wrong, and so then I would be mad.

1083
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: Here right about Jameis Winston, Yeah, I mean, all right,

1084
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: what about a Coach of the Year. I'm going Kyle

1085
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan again, continuing my forty and I gave him

1086
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: three awards. I gave him both a Jim Lance, I

1087
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: gave him Kyle I just think they're gonna be good.

1088
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: And I think I know who you're gonna pick for

1089
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. By the way, and he's feeling himself too.

1090
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: We talked about it with this quarterback shuffle. Yeah, I

1091
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: think it's I'll have to go somebody off the Kyle

1092
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan coaching tree. It's the entire league. So you know,

1093
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: people who want to give me a hard time, like, oh,

1094
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: DNN talks about the Jets too much, blah blah blah.

1095
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: I've been doing this podcast since two thousand thirteen. We've

1096
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: done like episodes and that team has never even they

1097
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: sniffed the playoffs once. It's been a real rough run

1098
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: for the Jets in the history of this podcast. I'm

1099
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: allowed to have some optimism. I do. I sincerely believe

1100
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson has a chance to have a breakout rookie season.

1101
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: And I really like the direction of that franchise with

1102
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: Robert Sala And I don't know, would have to look

1103
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: back at the history of that award. Um do they

1104
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: give it? Like did Brian Flores get it that year

1105
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: where they really competed? Um? Do you have to win?

1106
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: Multiple vote? He did get some votes, but he didn't.

1107
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: He didn't win. The Jets might win six or seven games,

1108
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: but if they're going in the right direction, I feel

1109
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: like he should be in the conversation. You might need

1110
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: to win at least. I feel like you gotta have

1111
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: a winning record. Maybe go to the year that's how

1112
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: So let's do that, Rob Alright. If you look at

1113
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: the last ten years, they all had not only winning records,

1114
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: but like extremely good records, And Okay, I don't know

1115
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: if that's always the way to look at it. I

1116
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: think maybe it's time to have a different perspective. And

1117
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: it looks like of winners of the last ten years

1118
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: were in their first year with the team, So there

1119
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: is a lot of It's a lot of like Ditoron

1120
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 1: going thirteen and three, Like if David Culley right went

1121
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: eight and nine this year with that team, how would

1122
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: he not be in consideration for that a war? I

1123
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: think he should be. But all right, the the the year,

1124
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: it seemed like the Jets were rolling out that Abraham's

1125
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: tank for Todd Bowls and they and they managed to

1126
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: get all those wins. I was saying all season the

1127
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: Todd Bulls should win Comes of the Year that year.

1128
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: But it just it didn't materialize. Flores was my guy

1129
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: throughout last year, and I think he would have been

1130
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: a fine pick. And yet by the end, no one

1131
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: wanted to hear because they didn't make the playoffs, even

1132
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: though they totally overachieved a year ago. We gotta get

1133
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: Claybon to make up in like ten minutes here, alright,

1134
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: grave digger, let's cycle through the rest of us. All right,

1135
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: we gotta go playoff picks. So a division winner for

1136
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: each division and then three wild card teams from each conference.

1137
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: Maybe let's let's rip off like the a f C

1138
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: division winners. Does anyone have all throughout mine? In which

1139
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: are pretty pretty chalky? But it's Bills, Ravens, Titans in

1140
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs to either of you have any differences there? I

1141
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: have Bills Ravens, and I wanted to get cute with

1142
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: the South, so I just went with the Cults and

1143
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: once another company player of the Year guy potentially and

1144
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. No, none of us have the Browns. That

1145
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: feels uh feels tough? All right? Well, what about the

1146
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: wild card? I have the Steelers, Titans, and Browns. What

1147
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: do you guys, Dolphins, Broncos, Steelers. Oh so you left.

1148
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: You left the Browns out of the places on this one.

1149
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't listening. I don't feel good. I know it

1150
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: really kept me up. Um. I thought about it a

1151
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: lot because I was just like, well, maybe Mark won't

1152
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: even notice you in the hospital if you don't have

1153
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: the Browns on this. Like. I also looked at this

1154
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: because I know how that NFL dot com article comes

1155
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: out and it's just like fourteen people picked this team,

1156
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: and like no one picked this and it's only just

1157
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: like you kind of want to like have it a

1158
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: little more representative, like spread it out. So I wanted

1159
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Broncos and the Patriots to get

1160
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: some love. I didn't think that the Dolphins would maybe

1161
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: get much love whatsoever. The Claybroon did it so uh

1162
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: and he gave the Broncos some love too. We are

1163
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: too much on the same Sessler. I want you to

1164
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: make note I have the Browns as a wild card

1165
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: team playing relevant January football. Patrick Clayban, Greg Rosenthal. No,

1166
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 1: we want to motivate the Browns who will now try

1167
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: hard because we have I don't even know if I

1168
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: totally buy that. That's what I mean. Like, I really

1169
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: wanted to I was thinking tired about the Chargers too,

1170
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: uh there, and and love so many teams, Greg, that's

1171
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: your problem. It's not so much love, like yes, but

1172
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: I don't you think like the Steelers, it could be good,

1173
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: that the Browns should be good. But I could see

1174
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: it going a little sideways. Tough schedule and the Chargers

1175
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: to those are like three teams that didn't even make

1176
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: my my playoff list anyways, alright, FC Division winners. All right,

1177
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: I got Washington, Green Bay, Tampa, and Los Angeles chalky

1178
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: as hell. I went with the forty Niners in the West. Really,

1179
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: I think they need to stay healthy. The fact that

1180
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: they had like a healthy camp for the first time

1181
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: in the Shanahan era like gave me the vibes. That's like, okay,

1182
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: maybe the health luck is turning around. I just think

1183
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: they can be a Jugger, not if if things go right.

1184
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: So I went forty Niners, Bucks Packers, And at the

1185
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: last second I switched it to the Cowboys. I just

1186
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: I just think I always say quarterbacks and offense, and

1187
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: so it just didn't feel right. I switched it to

1188
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that they not You remember I earlier in

1189
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: the offseason, I said I will not pick the Cowboys,

1190
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: I know. And I said this, and I was like, yeah,

1191
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: I almost did it, and I said no, I must

1192
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: be a man of my own word. So Washington about you, Claibon, Yeah,

1193
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: I've made no such promise in me and Greg do

1194
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: think too much alike. The only difference is I've got

1195
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: Seattle and Russ in the West. Um in the Niners

1196
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: in that first wild card spot. Okay, so all right,

1197
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: so I have wild Card one to three Niners, Seahawks, Vikings.

1198
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: Uh what do you have, Patrick, I've got I've got

1199
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 1: three West teams making the playoffs. Uh, the Niners, Los

1200
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: Angeles and then New Orleans sneaking in in the wild card.

1201
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: I like that. That's either some onions hanging there about you. Greg,

1202
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: I had no, it's this one like say that doesn't matter,

1203
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: and then somehow it's like, well Jamis and his Sean

1204
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: pay and um, I did not have the Seahawks in though,

1205
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, because you have I had to leave a

1206
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: team out. I have, um, you know, the Rams, the

1207
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: Vikings also making the playoffs. I think the defense is

1208
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: going to be good. And yeah, the Saints is my

1209
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: last team. Interesting, good offensive line. Hawks didn't make it.

1210
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What about your Super Bowl matchups and winners?

1211
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: All right? Did you guys write your blurb? Want to

1212
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: just read our blurbs? Sure? I got Chiefs over Rams.

1213
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: The pairing of Sean McVeigh and Matthew Stafford proved to

1214
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: be a smashing success. But even in excellent Rams, defense

1215
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: could not figure out Patrick Mahomes Comma, who followed up

1216
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: his second NFL m v P award with another Super

1217
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Period. Well, if you if you think it

1218
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough juice, then you can still change it.

1219
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: You should go. I always go for a hyper specific

1220
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: prediction there, just in case one year you get it right.

1221
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: So I went. I went forty Niners over Ravens. Um.

1222
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: I had the Chiefs initially, but then I was like, wow,

1223
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna pick the forty Niners to win, you

1224
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: might as well just go go balls out here, uh

1225
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: and my sentences. Trey Lance becomes the first rookie quarterback

1226
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: to lead his team to a Super Bowl title. Fred

1227
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: Warner tips Lamar Jackson's potential game winning throw at the

1228
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: buzzer hyper specifically, I don't I don't know, okay, Okay.

1229
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: The tray Land is gonna win the super Bowl this year.

1230
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: Tray Lance wins a Super Bowl and warners like Lamar

1231
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: has him open, makes a great throw, But but Fred

1232
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: Warner diving immortal play that you remember you have a

1233
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: different outlook on the whole exercise. It's kind of like

1234
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: what you want to happen in your dreams of the

1235
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: best NFL season. Um this time? Yeah, because when I

1236
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: went with more like tryn just get it right, and

1237
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: I've tried. I've kept trying to do that, and that's

1238
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: I always get it so wrong. That's why it's like, well,

1239
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: I'll just pick what I want, all right, Patrick, what

1240
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: do you got a storybook ending in Hollywood? Aaron Rodgers

1241
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: walks off the field a champion as Patrick Mahomes loses

1242
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: his second consecutive Super Bowl. I like that. I thought

1243
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: hard about going Packers all the way too. I feel

1244
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: like they're not getting like a lot of love for

1245
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: a team that absolutely has a chance to win the

1246
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and might have the best quarterback, absolutely Devil's advocate,

1247
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: and maybe their defense is better this year. But if

1248
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: they weren't able to get over the hump with Aaron

1249
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers having an all time season at thirty eight or whatever. Yeah,

1250
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: it didn't happen last year, is not gonna happen. I

1251
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: don't know. Balls not round hey and maybe that helps.

1252
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Who knows. That got me really excited, um, because it

1253
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: is just a reminder even though we've been doing this

1254
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: forever and all, you know, we've all been NFL fans

1255
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: since we were we boys at the beginning of the

1256
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: season so fun. It's just like they can go in

1257
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: so many different directions. Um. So we get to now

1258
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. And that's one of

1259
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: the great things about this podcast. Like we tracked that boys,

1260
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: we track how the season plays out after all the

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Speaker 1: hype throughout the spring and summer. It'd be weird if

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Speaker 1: we just like we're an off season pot. We're just

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Speaker 1: like you next in February. We're so anti climactic. Now,

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Speaker 1: you're right. I love I love that feeling. Um. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad it still hits me and it is hitting me

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Speaker 1: and it will more, you know. With Week one, which

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Speaker 1: I always think is like the best week of the year,

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Speaker 1: but there there is something about it. I'm still a

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Speaker 1: sucker for the NFL, which is good. Well that's good.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise podcast would probably suck. Patrick, thanks again, and yes,

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Speaker 1: watch Patrick all season on Fantasy Live on Nfilm Network.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I believe if we can grab you a

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Speaker 1: little more of your time next week, you'll be joining

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Speaker 1: us for another special episode. Let's do it alright, beautiful

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Speaker 1: there he goes Patrick Clayban. Uh and yes, well soon,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. We told Mark do not worry about getting back.

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Speaker 1: He's bummed out because he knows he's missing these ramp

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Speaker 1: up shows. But it's very important to him, uh and

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Speaker 1: to us and his family that he handles the recuperation

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Speaker 1: the right way. Um, So get well soon, Quiet Storm

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Speaker 1: Until Thursday, he's the car m