Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Therapy Gecko Podcast. I am Lyle,
Speaker 1: I am a gecko. I am a man. As every
Speaker 1: day inches forward, I lose sight of who I am
Speaker 1: if I'm a man, if I'm a gecko, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell it is that is piloting my
Speaker 1: eyes or my body. I don't know if it's a soul.
Speaker 1: I don't know if consciousness is individualized. I don't know
Speaker 1: what this thing is that incepted and I control whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I mean when I say
Speaker 1: I I'm getting too existential. I get existential a lot,
Speaker 1: and you know, being existential is nice and all, but
Speaker 1: sometimes you just want to be in the real world
Speaker 1: with everyone else. What's the matrix thing? The red pill
Speaker 1: of the blue pill. I'll take the blue pill every time.
Speaker 1: I will take the blue pill every time. I don't
Speaker 1: want to know the truth. What's the other one? The
Speaker 1: allegory of the cave? What's the cave guy? The cave thing?
Speaker 1: Plato's cave. Who's the cave? Yeah, Plato, it's the Plato, Yeah, Plato.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know what's outside the cave. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just enjoy what life has to offer, and life's
Speaker 1: got a lot to offer. It's got people that you
Speaker 1: can talk to. It's got videos that you can look
Speaker 1: at on the internet. It's got food you can eat,
Speaker 1: and it's got things you can do. It's got places
Speaker 1: you can go, It's got people you can talk to.
Speaker 1: I think I said that already, and today on the
Speaker 1: Therapy Echo podcast, we are going to talk to some
Speaker 1: of those people. It is nine to thirty pm at
Speaker 1: night at the time I'm recording this. I drank an
Speaker 1: entire diet mountain Dew, which has about ninety one milligrams
Speaker 1: of caffeine, and I'm ready to party. So let's talk
Speaker 1: to some people on the phone. Hi, Hey, what's up man?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm okay man. Where are you calling from? I notice
Speaker 1: you have a bizarre area code. Bizarre to me, it's
Speaker 1: normal for you. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even know how to call in. I'm
Speaker 2: from Denmark, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh where in Denmark?
Speaker 2: I live in a town called Ovus. It's the second
Speaker 2: biggest city in Denmark.
Speaker 1: Bro. I love Denmark. So I've been there two or
Speaker 1: three times. I went there first when I was like eighteen,
Speaker 1: I went to Copenhagen. I took a trip to this
Speaker 1: place called Christiania. You know Christiania.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like the free too. And this was when I was eighteen,
Speaker 1: and like I was, you know, weed was still illegal
Speaker 1: and hurt, and we heard rumors like, yo, there's this
Speaker 1: place in Denmark where everyone fucking smokes weed and it's
Speaker 1: like a little village and it's like an anarchist fucking place.
Speaker 1: And I remember going there and you know, you got
Speaker 1: to like push a street and there's all this like
Speaker 1: street art, and there's all these people like hanging around
Speaker 1: this big lake getting high and hanging out and it's
Speaker 1: just like, damn, this is the coolest motherfucking place ever.
Speaker 1: And then not just the drugs and stuff, but like
Speaker 1: Copenhagen too, what a beautiful, beautiful place. Everyone's riding their
Speaker 1: bikes around, everyone's happy, and yeah it's cool. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you don't live there, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: none of this. I'm just I'm just gassing up Denmark.
Speaker 1: I love that place.
Speaker 2: Well, Denmark is kind of nice, yeah, like compared to
Speaker 2: like a lot of the other places on Earth, you know,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1: You feel like what I feel like.
Speaker 2: We have it good, you know, like, yeah, pretty sick.
Speaker 1: You sound like you don't have as much of a
Speaker 1: boner for it as I do.
Speaker 2: Well, it's because when you live in Denmark from like,
Speaker 2: if you're from do you know what Jetlin is, it's
Speaker 2: the main out of Denmark which connects to Germany. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so when you're from Jutland like me, then you find
Speaker 2: people from Copenhagen, like even the Danish ones, to be
Speaker 2: quite arrogant, if that make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh now I feel like a dick.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's it's it's kind of like an it's
Speaker 2: an internal thing in Denmark because like in Jutland where
Speaker 2: I'm from, like everyone is going to greet you even
Speaker 2: though you don't know him. And that's a very very
Speaker 2: bizarre thing in Denmark. I know, in like United States
Speaker 2: and stuff, people talk a lot like even though you
Speaker 2: don't know him. But in Denmark it's like kind of
Speaker 2: seen as rude to be talking to people, especially in Copenhagen.
Speaker 2: But in Jutland where I'm from, we just say hi
Speaker 2: and greet each other and but there's not much of
Speaker 2: that in Copenhagen. Like people just mind their own business.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, why is it considered rude to talk
Speaker 1: to people?
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's considered rude, but it's just
Speaker 2: like in Denmark, like Danish people, we have our own
Speaker 2: thing going on, like our own agenda, and we know
Speaker 2: where we're going. So a lot of the time if
Speaker 2: we get interrupted in that, it's kind of seen as
Speaker 2: not particularly rude, but just kind of a disruption in
Speaker 2: one stay.
Speaker 1: One might think, yeah, so let's say that we're at
Speaker 1: the grocery store and the line is long, and I
Speaker 1: turn around and I'm like, this line is pretty long.
Speaker 1: Huh would that be rude? In Denmark.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be rude, but the person behind you would
Speaker 2: definitely think, huh, why do you need to point that
Speaker 2: out to me?
Speaker 1: So, yeah, do you make conversation with strangers ever? Or well?
Speaker 1: Where where do you live again? Joplin in alos, it's.
Speaker 2: The main part of Denmark connected to Germany is called Jutlin,
Speaker 2: so it's like the main city there.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? And so you and you guys think that
Speaker 1: people from Copenhagen are douchebags.
Speaker 2: Kind of you can you can uh look at a
Speaker 2: little bit like we're the farmers in Jutland and then
Speaker 2: the business people in Copenhagen. So in Jutlin we're farmers
Speaker 2: and we're like greeting each other and you know, our
Speaker 2: good at partner. But in Copenhagen there's not really time
Speaker 2: for that. I imagine it would be like kind of
Speaker 2: the same rush as New York, but not with that
Speaker 2: many people of course.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Well what's your name again? My name is
Speaker 1: Simon Simon. Well, Simon, I assumed that you called in
Speaker 1: for more than just to hear me gosh about the
Speaker 1: city people, So what's up man? How you doing?
Speaker 2: The past like half a year has been kind of
Speaker 2: hectic for me? I think I lost my girlfriend. I
Speaker 2: had a very hectic move out of an apartment because
Speaker 2: the guy I was rending it from was doing some
Speaker 2: illegal shit. And I came home late one night and
Speaker 2: could see like I could see my window and like
Speaker 2: the rest of the apartment was stark, but like he
Speaker 2: was in my stuff looking with the flashlight. And my
Speaker 2: theory is he was looking for the contract, like where
Speaker 2: we had sided that I could live there and if
Speaker 2: he found that, because it wasn't digitized, So if you
Speaker 2: find the physical copy. Then I wouldn't have proved that
Speaker 2: I could live there, so he can kick me out
Speaker 2: like right away. So yeah, it's been kind of hectic,
Speaker 2: but I've moved to a new place where I live alone,
Speaker 2: which is so nice, and yeah, things are kind of
Speaker 2: quiet now, but it's kind of eerie because you know,
Speaker 2: so much stuff happened and now it's just like back
Speaker 2: to the baseline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how is baseline for you?
Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing. It's kind of baseline is nice,
Speaker 2: but I have to make a like a lot of
Speaker 2: effort to make something happened. Like if I have hobbies,
Speaker 2: I painted warhamm if Warhammer miniatures, but I have to
Speaker 2: make quite an effort to like kickstart that hobby again.
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like it's taking you such an
Speaker 1: effort to kick start your hobbies again?
Speaker 2: I feel I'm probably My idea is that I have
Speaker 2: a ADHD, so I have like my focus and my
Speaker 2: interest is shifting a lot, and I find it very
Speaker 2: hard to like delve into something where that my interest
Speaker 2: isn't in it. So, for example, then I have like
Speaker 2: this period of two months where I paint a lot
Speaker 2: of Warhammer and spend a lot of money on it
Speaker 2: and then it just like fizzles out. And yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of just waiting for it naturally to return because
Speaker 2: it should be fun doing your hobby. It shouldn't be
Speaker 2: an obligation or like its.
Speaker 1: Are right, right? Is it like a like a brain
Speaker 1: chemistry thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you get really specifically, it is, because it's
Speaker 2: kind of like being dopamine addicted. But I just need
Speaker 2: and want more dopamine than normal people.
Speaker 1: In quotations, why, yes, I'm I'm I'm familiar with that.
Speaker 1: What are your what are your current sources of dopamine?
Speaker 2: Oh? So I take a medicine for my ADHD, and
Speaker 2: whenever I do it's not kind of a problem. But
Speaker 2: when I don't, I eat a lot to like just
Speaker 2: keep not because I'm hungry, but just to keep like
Speaker 2: the dopamine flowing. The Oh I know you've talked about
Speaker 2: like eating a pint of you know, ban and Jerry's,
Speaker 2: and that would be like the kick. So yeah, when
Speaker 2: I don't take my medicine, which is during the weekends
Speaker 2: and when I'm hungover, then I eat a lot.
Speaker 1: W what medicine do you take? I'm curious.
Speaker 2: It's something called advance it's like amphetamine, but it just
Speaker 2: releases very slowly.
Speaker 3: Wait wait say it again, Advance advance or vivants l
Speaker 3: vance ell vance Okay, is it is like a stimulant?
Speaker 2: I think so. Like the way I I kind of
Speaker 2: know how it works is that it's just like amphetamine,
Speaker 2: but then released over the course of like the whole day,
Speaker 2: in very small doses. So whenever the ADHD brain would
Speaker 2: lose focus or anything, then instead of losing focus, it
Speaker 2: will give like a kick of amphetamine or something, and
Speaker 2: then you would keep your focus.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. I actually just started taking I took
Speaker 1: a Vivance for the first time in a while yesterday,
Speaker 1: and it made me feel like it gave me so
Speaker 1: much like dopamine, and it was great. It is so
Speaker 1: interesting to think about how much of this shit is
Speaker 1: like just yet chasing, chasing brain chemicals.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the fucking pill. Can you know? You think
Speaker 1: it's all these external things, but you take a pill
Speaker 1: and everything changes and your external is the same, but
Speaker 1: the way you view it is different.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually had when I started at the medicine when
Speaker 2: I first got diagnosed, I started on a different kind
Speaker 2: of medication and I felt like I would get this
Speaker 2: filter on my feelings. So beforehand, when we would like
Speaker 2: when my parents would make my favorite dish for dinner,
Speaker 2: I would be like really happy, and then when they
Speaker 2: told me after dinner I had to do the dishes,
Speaker 2: and then I would be really pissed. But then when
Speaker 2: I got the medication, it just sort of turned off
Speaker 2: my feeling things, so everything was kind of great.
Speaker 4: So I feel like for some people.
Speaker 2: Some medications like really just the trick, but for me,
Speaker 2: like most of the medications just make me feel like bland
Speaker 2: and great.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: How it might It might just be because it like
Speaker 2: turns off that dopamine hit.
Speaker 1: You know, how is how is the one you're taking
Speaker 1: now making you feel.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's the medicine that least affected my mood,
Speaker 2: I think. But I view myself as two different people.
Speaker 2: Like when I take my medicine and when I don't, like,
Speaker 2: I feel vastly different.
Speaker 1: Whoa two different people? Tell me what the two different
Speaker 1: people are?
Speaker 2: It's not it's not really two different people, but it's
Speaker 2: just like two two different mindsets, I think. So the
Speaker 2: way my unmedicatedself would view and tackle it situation is
Speaker 2: just one thing and then when I'm medicated, I would
Speaker 2: tackle it another way.
Speaker 5: MM.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's better when you're medicated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for like different things and like studying, working,
Speaker 2: getting stuff done around the house, all those kind of
Speaker 2: all those things kind of get easier. And also, M
Speaker 2: I think if people were too like be with me socially,
Speaker 2: then if I'm medicated, I'm much more they could be
Speaker 2: with me for a longer period period of time and
Speaker 2: not get irritated with me. But if I'm off my medicine,
Speaker 2: then I can be kind.
Speaker 1: Of intense, interesting, intense, intense in what way?
Speaker 2: Intense in just like the emotions, Like if I feel joy,
Speaker 2: I feel a lot of joy. I'm like jump around.
Speaker 2: I'm like an energetic like like a kid maybe yeah. M.
Speaker 1: And so you feel like that your emotions are too
Speaker 1: intense that like people other people can't handle it.
Speaker 2: Some people can. I feel myself like kind of weirdly
Speaker 2: magnetized to other people with ADHD, and they have a
Speaker 2: much higher tolerance because they can like they kind of
Speaker 2: get it, you know, m M.
Speaker 1: Yeah I feel that way too. I also kind of
Speaker 1: feel myself magnetized to people with ADHD, you know, like
Speaker 1: other people people who also like have like weird struggles
Speaker 1: or like feel life very intensely. You know, as a
Speaker 1: person who feels life very intensely, it is bizarre to
Speaker 1: even like fathom the mind of somebody who like isn't
Speaker 1: feeling life very intensely. It sounds sick. I'd like to
Speaker 1: not feel life very intensely, make more of a.
Speaker 2: Mellow experience in life. I think if you if you don't,
Speaker 2: then you won't spike as much.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a it's a blessing and
Speaker 1: a curse. It's a blessing and a curse, and it
Speaker 1: kind of, I guess depends on how you want to
Speaker 1: look at it, because I don't know. Some people like
Speaker 1: don't ever think about any of this ship or feel
Speaker 1: very intensely, which is a more uh uh certainly a
Speaker 1: more comfortable way to go through life. But I don't.
Speaker 1: These aren't things that I think you choose. I think
Speaker 1: some people, Yeah, these aren't things you choose. These are
Speaker 1: just things you're fucking born with and deal with and whatnot.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've always used like the analogy of like Jim Carrey
Speaker 2: because he has ADHD and you can clearly like you
Speaker 2: can clearly tell by most of his roles in films
Speaker 2: that he's just like a bomb of energy, and I
Speaker 2: think that's his ADHD, like him challenging channeling his ADHD
Speaker 2: into something positive and making a career out of it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that. I've always said, that's a good
Speaker 2: analogy of someone using their diety, like their diagnosed to
Speaker 2: do good. M hm.
Speaker 1: Do you what are your hopes and dreams for like,
Speaker 1: mister Simon.
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know, niall, And that's the that's the
Speaker 2: worst part because right now I work. I'm at work
Speaker 2: right now, and I work for the Danish Railway company
Speaker 2: and there's like one one doing all of the trains
Speaker 2: in Denmark, and it's kind of a dead end job,
Speaker 2: you know. I can't move up in the ranks, and
Speaker 2: I'm kind of disposable because it's just a service. I
Speaker 2: sell stuff from seven to eleven in a train.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's kind of it's comfortable right now. It
Speaker 2: tastes the bills and I can live and it's fine.
Speaker 2: But as for my dreams and hopes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would really like to do something with animals, like
Speaker 2: and sanctuary in like I'm preferably exotic animals.
Speaker 1: Where does one go to work with exotic animals in Denmark?
Speaker 2: They go to the zookeepers school. But the problem is
Speaker 2: that Denmark is so small that when you're looking for
Speaker 2: and I don't know what it's called in English, but
Speaker 2: kind of an internship in Denmark, you have and you
Speaker 2: contact the the business or the zoo and then but
Speaker 2: Denmark is so small that we don't have sus enough
Speaker 2: sus for everyone to get an internship. So you might
Speaker 2: get put on a waiting list for like a year
Speaker 2: or two, just right in the middle of your education
Speaker 2: to be a Jesuit.
Speaker 1: M okay, so you in order for you to get
Speaker 1: this internship, there's a long wait list.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that might be. That's the kind of thing
Speaker 2: you don't really know before you apply.
Speaker 1: What about just get can you just get a parrot?
Speaker 1: Just get a pet parrot?
Speaker 2: I actually had a good dragon once. M.
Speaker 1: Yeah, couldn't you be like you could be like the
Speaker 1: tiger king of Denmark and just start your own fucking
Speaker 1: illegal zoo.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Common Side Effects the show on HBO? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that show.
Speaker 2: I would love to be the brother to that guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't remember his name, but like seth.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, actually no, I know, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know exactly the scene that you're talking about, that guy
Speaker 1: who just owns a bunch of like exotic pets and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeahs to be that guy though.
Speaker 1: That's very funny that you reference to that, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I couldn't you Could you just open a fucking
Speaker 1: pet shop in Denmark? How easy is that?
Speaker 2: In Denmark? There's like so many regulations, and I believe
Speaker 2: there are animals as well, and especially exotic animals, and
Speaker 2: if they're venomous, it gets kind of like it gets
Speaker 2: even more difficult. But I know the peole in Denmark
Speaker 2: who have like snakes and drain their venom and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, they need to like have kind of a
Speaker 2: military grade permission to do so, I believe. Don't quote
Speaker 2: me on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tiger King does feel like a kind of
Speaker 1: uniquely American thing. It just so then requires very little regulations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever seen there's like this one streamer girl,
Speaker 2: I don't remember her name, but she's friends with Judy
Speaker 2: Cinderella and Ludwick has been over there, and she has
Speaker 2: this kind of sanctuary out in the middle of nowhere
Speaker 2: and invites streamers over to like participate in peak the animals.
Speaker 1: No, who is it?
Speaker 2: I don't remember her name at all, but I just
Speaker 2: like a bunch of my favorite dreamers has visited the sanctuary,
Speaker 2: and that would be like the ultimate, like the ultimate
Speaker 2: dream just to like take care of twenty or twenty
Speaker 2: five animals.
Speaker 1: What's what animal would be the crown jewel of your
Speaker 1: exotic animal zoo.
Speaker 2: Mister Lyle, you know this. It would be a gecko.
Speaker 1: Listen, let me all right here, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you all right, I'm gonna make a
Speaker 1: pact with you, all right in thirty In thirty years,
Speaker 1: if both of us still don't know what to do
Speaker 1: with our lives, I'll fucking I'll dress I don't know
Speaker 1: where my gecko suits will be at that age, but
Speaker 1: I'll dress up as a lizard and move to Denmark
Speaker 1: and I'll just be in a cage and you can
Speaker 1: you can drive me around and we'll do like a
Speaker 1: little exotic animal freak show around Denmark.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, that would be so cool. I would feed
Speaker 2: you well too. I'm a good caretaker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what kind of what what do we got?
Speaker 2: What's the prind Jesus, he's kind of kind of tempting.
Speaker 1: Now, he's very tempting. I got I actually last night,
Speaker 1: I yeah, did I feel you on the dopamine? Last night?
Speaker 1: I go puffed. God man, last night, I fucking go
Speaker 1: puffed a pine of Ben and Jerries, some hot pockets
Speaker 1: and some party mix. And I actually only I only
Speaker 1: ate half the pine of Ben Jerri's, but the other
Speaker 1: half is in the freezer right now, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about thinking about eating it, thinking about eating it. It's
Speaker 1: too much, man, It's too much. I've been. I've been.
Speaker 1: I've also yeah, dude, I've also been having like a
Speaker 1: crazy dopamine deficiency. I'm eating like a pint of Ben
Speaker 1: and Jerry's a day. It's it's crazy, man.
Speaker 2: So it's even when you like feel full, like when
Speaker 2: you don't need to eat more food because your body
Speaker 2: is full and you feel that, but you still keep
Speaker 2: eating because it tastes so good.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, of course, of course, by the way, Ben
Speaker 1: Ben and Jerry's ice cream is not you know, it's
Speaker 1: not for satiation purposes. No, it's not for you don't
Speaker 1: get you don't get full. On ice cream.
Speaker 2: You know, I've actually worked in an ice cream for
Speaker 2: one time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get Did you get to eat a
Speaker 1: lot of ice cream?
Speaker 2: I did it, but I very very quickly got tired
Speaker 2: of ice cream and I didn't want to eat it.
Speaker 1: That's sad, man, Well, how do you how do you
Speaker 1: know that's not going to happen with these exotic animals?
Speaker 1: You know, like you're just spending so much time around
Speaker 1: bearded dragons that it doesn't even excite you anymore.
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of kind of crazy, im engine it
Speaker 2: because I got pretty tired of the beard of dragon
Speaker 2: when I had it. But I think like it would
Speaker 2: be kind of I was a kid then, and I
Speaker 2: would really like like the responsibility of taking care of
Speaker 2: not just one, but like multiple animals and like kind
Speaker 2: of have a feeling that I'm helping doing good because
Speaker 2: I always see these animals like kind of going extinct
Speaker 2: and getting hunted everywhere. So yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 2: would be different. And also with like me being more.
Speaker 1: Mature, Simon. Uh, this was a good conversation, man. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to you. Yeah, I hope, I you know,
Speaker 1: look man, we're uh, I hope we figure out our
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck's going on in the brain that makes us,
Speaker 1: uh eat shit and go crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, I can probably tell you already that we probably
Speaker 2: won't because the brain is so weird.
Speaker 1: No, don't say that. Fuck fuck you, Simon, Fuck you Simon.
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe that both of us will figure
Speaker 1: it out. Okay, we're both gonna figure it out. You
Speaker 1: can't say that. You can't say that we won't, Simon.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: All right, I believe as well?
Speaker 1: Do you really? I hope that's the pro The first
Speaker 1: step to believing is to just say it, even if
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I do believe. I do believe that people
Speaker 2: figure it out some day.
Speaker 1: How old are you, man, I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I'm twenty five.
Speaker 1: Cool, we're about the same age. Yeah, ah man, yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh do you ever? Do you ever go to Copenhagen
Speaker 1: or are you like it's all everyone there is too douche?
Speaker 2: No? I do, And the girlfriend I broke up with
Speaker 2: actually lived there, so I was there quite a lot.
Speaker 2: And because I worked for the railway company, I have
Speaker 2: three travel like free trouble across all of them, so
Speaker 2: I could just go there. When I'm a r I want.
Speaker 1: How's your love life been since the gift?
Speaker 2: The gift, it's been kind of crazy. Like the first
Speaker 2: girl I dated after her was like a Satanist, but
Speaker 2: she was kind of sweet but a Satanist nonetheless, and
Speaker 2: kind of intense.
Speaker 1: How so.
Speaker 2: Just like and everything like in emotions. I remember, like
Speaker 2: when I met her at the night that I met her,
Speaker 2: like this other girl came in which I have with
Speaker 2: which I have seen like in the past of my life,
Speaker 2: and she came to say hi and just like put
Speaker 2: a hand on my shoulder and said hey, Sammon, and
Speaker 2: I was like hey, and then they go to sickness go.
Speaker 2: She was just gone instantly because she feld the vice.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But I am you are you? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna try to like go on more dates and stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of trying to practice practice practice ethical dating.
Speaker 2: So no ghosting, no being a dick, being clear about
Speaker 2: boundaries and what you're looking for and like dating interesting.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Wait, tell me more about this ethical dating, Like
Speaker 1: you're like no ghosting, no like letting things trail off,
Speaker 1: like firmly ending and being like like, tell me, tell
Speaker 1: me more about this philosophy.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have the time. Then I
Speaker 2: have to put you down for a minute because I
Speaker 2: have to get some urum and then I can pick them.
Speaker 2: Can you hang away?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: You have you have to go. You have to get
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not to get out of here, but I
Speaker 2: have to go to where the train is. So I
Speaker 2: just have to get like a gear on. It's going
Speaker 2: to take five seconds and then I can tell you
Speaker 2: on the wather.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, right, I'm back, all right, Yeah, tell
Speaker 1: me more about tell me more about your ethical dating philosophy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So in a world where like like in the
Speaker 2: modern world, where there's so much ghosting, there's so much
Speaker 2: non responsive I just kind of got tired of it
Speaker 2: and decided that change starts with yourself. And I've actually
Speaker 2: gotten a lot of positive feedback on it, and like
Speaker 2: this one girl when I was dating the sickness. Then
Speaker 2: then there was this other girl I met with on
Speaker 2: Kinder and I just told her that I was seeing
Speaker 2: someone else and that I wanted to know where that went.
Speaker 2: And she was like, cool, text me it ever goes
Speaker 2: the head or you're ever not being again, And that
Speaker 2: worked out fine, and I texted her afterwards and we
Speaker 2: kind of met up after that.
Speaker 1: M how was how was that meeting?
Speaker 2: It was good, like we didn't really click in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways. If you had a good conversation, that
Speaker 2: was it, but not really leading to anything further.
Speaker 1: Mh yeah, I yeah. I think it can be hard
Speaker 1: emotionally to always be like I don't know, it can
Speaker 1: be hard for some people to like communicate everything all
Speaker 1: the time because it's like, well is this too much
Speaker 1: after having just you know, met once, and you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people I think kind of struggle with
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like in then in Denmark, people just avoid
Speaker 2: the confrontation of it, and but it's not that bad.
Speaker 2: Like now, I've tried it a couple of times, just
Speaker 2: being honest and being like, hey, I don't think we
Speaker 2: should see each other anymore, and people actually do take it.
Speaker 2: I mean women do. I don't know about men. I've
Speaker 2: heard a lot of scary stories about men who can
Speaker 2: celebrate being predicted, but I've had a lot of good
Speaker 2: experiences with women like open and upfront about it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it is a European thing to
Speaker 1: be like direct? I know, I know, like in Ant,
Speaker 1: like in in the Netherlands, there's a whole thing of
Speaker 1: like like Dutch directness, like people are very like good
Speaker 1: at communicating. Yeah, do you think it's a European thing.
Speaker 2: It might be. I don't think we're good at it
Speaker 2: in Denmark. Like I hear stories from like my like
Speaker 2: platonic girlfriend, like my friends friends who are women that
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of bad acts out there.
Speaker 1: So are you what's your what's your like dating goal?
Speaker 1: You're trying to get married and all that.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about marriage. I'm not like that's
Speaker 2: not kind of my main focus. But my main focus
Speaker 2: is definitely a family and kids. Nice, Like I really
Speaker 2: want to be a dad, like a lot nice.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to be a dad like like like
Speaker 1: soon you're trying to be like a young dad.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm trying to be a dad like with
Speaker 2: the right woman. So that like my goal as a
Speaker 2: dad is to be the best dad possible. So that
Speaker 2: will only make sense if I have the best wife possible,
Speaker 2: like the best mother as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, yeah, man, that's the most fucking
Speaker 1: important decision you can make in your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: That's like my end, but nothing like yeah.
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure We're gonna figure out the brains. We're
Speaker 1: gonna figure out the brain. Both, Simon, I'm gonna fucking
Speaker 1: manifest I don't know if I believe in manifestation, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna manifest for us. Okay, all right, We're both
Speaker 1: gonna figure out the brain. We're both gonna have beautiful
Speaker 1: wives and children and yeah, and you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an animal sanctuary, and I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 2: Uh like that like a lot on my plate though,
Speaker 2: to both have a family and an animal shelter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that is a lot. Maybe that is a lot,
Speaker 1: not all at once, not all at once. Maybe when
Speaker 1: you're like seventy or some shit. Maybe when you're seventy.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna smoke weed when I'm seventeen and so
Speaker 2: the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: You can fuck man, you can do that now.
Speaker 2: I am doing that now. But like, I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 2: increase in amount of wheat smoking when I get older.
Speaker 1: I think. I mean at that point, just do you
Speaker 1: know heroin or something. Well, by the time you're seventy,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some I mean, there's new drugs all
Speaker 1: the time, like ketamine has become popular and what is it?
Speaker 1: Two C too sweet, the pink one. So by the
Speaker 1: time you're seventy, there's gonna be some you know, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be super weed or some new thing to snort
Speaker 1: or inject or put up your ass, and you know
Speaker 1: you'd probably be doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be able to smoke your ADHD medsine.
Speaker 1: Smoking adderall sounds nuts, So.
Speaker 2: That could be crazy though.
Speaker 1: Simon, Uh, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna end this
Speaker 1: phone call so that I can go eat Ben and Jerry's.
Speaker 2: That sounds really nice, brother, is.
Speaker 1: Nice talking to you. I really hope that you do
Speaker 1: figure the things out. And uh, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come to Denmark at some point. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you do.
Speaker 2: I problemise I'm gonna be at your show. You're not
Speaker 2: gonna do a show, then hit me up. We'll go
Speaker 2: to Christina.
Speaker 1: Oh, actually sounds nice. Yeah. I did a show in
Speaker 1: Copenhagen a couple of years ago. Maybe I'll do another one.
Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows, who knows, who knows? Yeah, Simon,
Speaker 1: is there anything else I want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2: Mmm, I guess just kind of stay fresh, stay.
Speaker 1: Positive, beautiful, believe, take care of Simon, take care of live.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll start an animal sanctuary. No, all those animals
Speaker 1: will be fucked if I had an animal sanctuary. If
Speaker 1: you're an animal out there, you better pray you don't
Speaker 1: end up in my sanctuary. Because I can't even take
Speaker 1: care of a plant. Maybe I'll have a diet coke sanctuary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds more. That sounds like more of a thing
Speaker 1: I can take care of. Hello, Yes, Hi, what is
Speaker 1: your name?
Speaker 4: My name is Calvin.
Speaker 1: Calvin, like Calvin Klein.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Do you get that a lot to people say that
Speaker 1: to you a lot?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, definitely.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like Calvin Klein?
Speaker 4: Not really? I wish I was rich like Calvin Klein.
Speaker 1: Is he rich or dead? Or I guess you could.
Speaker 1: I guess you can't be. Can you be rich and dead?
Speaker 1: I guess when you're dead, you no longer own things.
Speaker 1: So he's either whatever. I mean, he cares about him.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about you. Let's talk about you. Calvin. I'm
Speaker 1: so in the mood to talk to you right now.
Speaker 1: I really am I I You're I'm really going to
Speaker 1: treat this conversation like you and me are the only
Speaker 1: two people on the planet Earth for the rest of eternity.
Speaker 1: So I'm here, I'm ready. Whatever you got to throw out,
Speaker 1: I will I will catch it. You could if now,
Speaker 1: if you want to say something crazy and insane and horrible,
Speaker 1: I now's the time to do it, because I'm ready
Speaker 1: for whatever you got to go on right now.
Speaker 4: Well, to be quite honest, man, I've been going through
Speaker 4: a lot, Like I'm trying to go through a breakup.
Speaker 4: At the same time, my ex girlfriend wants to get
Speaker 4: back with me, but she's playing my games. Yet she
Speaker 4: wants to get back with me, but she's talking to
Speaker 4: other guys, and I'm not sure what to do about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're going through When you say you're going
Speaker 1: through a breakup, this is and the ex that wants
Speaker 1: to get back to you. There's one woman in this story.
Speaker 4: There's not multiple Yeah, there's only one woman.
Speaker 1: Okay, And how old are you? I just want to
Speaker 1: know I am twenty four, twenty four, and tell me
Speaker 1: about this woman. Tell me about the relationship you had
Speaker 1: with her.
Speaker 4: Well, to be honest with us, with her, she kept
Speaker 4: always yelling at me and kept trying to gaslight me
Speaker 4: when she kept trying to say I never listened to her.
Speaker 4: I never did anything she wanted me to do. Yet
Speaker 4: I did everything before I've been over backwards, and I
Speaker 4: loved her. She meant everything to me, and I didn't.
Speaker 4: I just did everything she wanted me to do. Like
Speaker 4: I thought what she did what she did was love.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure you thought what she did was love?
Speaker 1: What do you mean by what she did?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm used to being gaslet and I thought
Speaker 4: when I got with her, things will be different. But
Speaker 4: apparently she told me lies and I just fed into it,
Speaker 4: and I, you know, I just wanted to believe her,
Speaker 4: you know, like I I just wanted to be with her.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, like dude, like I've I've been
Speaker 4: with her for off and on for two years, and
Speaker 4: I loved her.
Speaker 1: Dude, why do you love her?
Speaker 4: Because truth be told? Like her and I connected more.
Speaker 4: Her and I had a lot of comment but at
Speaker 4: the same time, I had a lot of trauma for
Speaker 4: my exes in the past. And after her and I
Speaker 4: broke up, and I felt, you know, my eyes open up,
Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, she told me, she loved me.
Speaker 4: She did all these things for me. She bought me gibs,
Speaker 4: and you know, she was trying to depraise me, and
Speaker 4: I thought that was love. But apparently that's not love
Speaker 4: at all. That's well, my friends would try to tell me, m.
Speaker 1: Oh, what are your friends? What are your friends telling you?
Speaker 4: My friends are trying to tell me she's being a
Speaker 4: narcissist by telling me lies and trying to gastle. I
Speaker 4: mean to try to get back with her, and what
Speaker 4: she did was not love because she was trying to
Speaker 4: yell at me, trying to tell me that I didn't
Speaker 4: listen to her. I like, I didn't do anything around
Speaker 4: the house, but I did everything for I cleaned for her,
Speaker 4: I cooked for her, I thought her things, I paid
Speaker 4: her rents and everything. But yet apparently things are not
Speaker 4: going her way.
Speaker 1: Mmmmmm mmmmmm. How long has it been since she talked
Speaker 1: to this lady?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: To be honest, this morning, this.
Speaker 1: Morning, are you going on dates? Are you seeing anyone else?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 2: Not at all?
Speaker 1: What else is going on in your life?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: You know, to be honest, I've been trying to go
Speaker 4: out more of my friends try to try to get
Speaker 4: my mind off of things. Tried to get me into
Speaker 4: an environment where I feel like I'm accepted and where
Speaker 4: my friends want me to, you know, feel like I'm okay.
Speaker 1: That sounds great. You sound like you have good friends,
Speaker 1: you have you been hanging out with them a lot?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course. Like the other day, my friends
Speaker 4: took me to get a couple of drinks at the bar,
Speaker 4: and my my eggs kept trying to blow my and
Speaker 4: my phone up. She's like, where are you at?
Speaker 2: What are you doing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just hanging out with my friends. She's like, oh,
Speaker 4: my friends already good friends. And she's like, are you
Speaker 4: trying to talk to any woman? I'm like, no, I'm
Speaker 4: just hanging out my friends having a few beers.
Speaker 2: Mmm.
Speaker 1: You know, look, I'm gonna you know, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: Ma Calvin. I'm really no expert on these things, but
Speaker 1: I have these kind of amorphous thoughts and feelings about
Speaker 1: love and relationships and how to handle it. And you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, right like,
Speaker 1: you want to be in a relationship with someone that
Speaker 1: you feel safe and comfortable and secure around. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know you, but you said this
Speaker 1: lady is like yelling at you and and you know
Speaker 1: you guys broke up, but she's being jealous, and it's like,
Speaker 1: do you do you feel secure and safe around this lady?
Speaker 4: Well, I moved away from her, and I feel a
Speaker 4: lot safe for being away from her. Like no, I'm
Speaker 4: seven hours away from her, and ever since I moved away,
Speaker 4: I feel a lot more safer. But yet she was
Speaker 4: trying to get me come back to her.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you want to do with your life? Man? What?
Speaker 1: Because where you're at now, you got all these friends.
Speaker 4: I'm in North Dakota with all my friends and Tripa
Speaker 4: told them I want to become a streamer. Like when
Speaker 4: I was with her, I had to put on my
Speaker 4: pause because she got mad at me for trying to
Speaker 4: you know, trying to make trying to make content. And
Speaker 4: now with my free time, I'm trying to put more
Speaker 4: content out for people.
Speaker 1: You know, wait a minute, she got mad. Why was
Speaker 1: she mad at you for trying to make content?
Speaker 4: She said that she thought content, more content was more
Speaker 4: important than her, which I told her she was more
Speaker 4: important content, But yet her mind, she thought that trying
Speaker 4: to make content come come up.
Speaker 1: Calvin Calvin. Oh god, man, Calvin, listen, brother, my friend, Calvin.
Speaker 1: You just from my perspective, you got a nice setup
Speaker 1: going on. You got you got you really, you got
Speaker 1: a nice setup going on. You got a thing you
Speaker 1: want to do. You got good ass friends who, uh
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a god what a gift it
Speaker 1: is to have like other people in your life who
Speaker 1: give a fuck about you enough to offer you genuine
Speaker 1: perspective on your situation and try to knock yourself out
Speaker 1: of yourself when you're going insane. You know, that's that's lucky.
Speaker 1: You're blessed to have that. You you want to stay
Speaker 1: around those people. Those are good people that you got
Speaker 1: around you, you know, and then you do and if
Speaker 1: you if if you go back to this lady who
Speaker 1: doesn't want you to uh pursue your your hobbies and
Speaker 1: ambitions and who's driving you crazy? You know, crazy man?
Speaker 1: You see young for that, I'm not telling I'm not
Speaker 1: telling you anything. Calvin. I'm sorry I talked over you,
Speaker 1: But Calvin, I'm not telling you anything. I'm not telling
Speaker 1: you anything. You don't fucking know you We're just going
Speaker 1: around in circus because I'm not the first person to
Speaker 1: tell you this. I can I can tell that by
Speaker 1: your friends. Oh yeah, the problem is that the problem
Speaker 1: is that it's hard, right because you form a fucking
Speaker 1: that that's the thing. That's what I think, And I
Speaker 1: want to I want you to know I empathize with
Speaker 1: you on this because somebody can be like you can
Speaker 1: like logically, somebody can be very toxic and you can
Speaker 1: know that, and you can know they're not right for you,
Speaker 1: and you can know in your heart and in your
Speaker 1: gut that that you know, yeah, they're not right for you.
Speaker 1: But what sucks is that I mean not what sucks,
Speaker 1: it just it just is what it is. It's fucking life.
Speaker 1: It's like you form a strong connection with them, and
Speaker 1: that connection it's a one of one thing. And after
Speaker 1: a lot of time and a lot of affection and
Speaker 1: a lot of energy and a lot of love, you
Speaker 1: build a connection with someone on like an emotional, spiritual,
Speaker 1: physical level, and your logic and this connection they don't
Speaker 1: compute with each other. Your friends are only operating off
Speaker 1: of logic. That's why they're able to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know this lady is not is not good for
Speaker 1: you because they're not blinded by the connection and the
Speaker 1: connection is a real thing, and it's painful to let
Speaker 1: go of that connection. And I empathize with you on that.
Speaker 1: But the logic logic usually wins you know so, and
Speaker 1: and if it helped, makes you feel about better. Over time,
Speaker 1: as you do move yourself in the direction of where
Speaker 1: you actually want to be, and shit, you'll you'll naturally
Speaker 1: develop more connections. But I understand, I understand the pain.
Speaker 1: But listen to your friends. Man, God damn, your friends
Speaker 1: sound cool.
Speaker 5: I will.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Lyle.
Speaker 1: All right? Calvin, Calvin, Calvin? Is there anything else I
Speaker 1: can do for you at all? Do you want five dollars?
Speaker 4: I mean, I wish I'll vemo you.
Speaker 1: Five dollars right now?
Speaker 3: Shiit?
Speaker 1: What's your what's your what's your venom? And vemo? You
Speaker 1: five dollars? Calvin? What's your Veandmo? And Vemo? And you
Speaker 1: five dollars? I have no idea why I'm doing this
Speaker 1: right now. I just said I I said I would,
Speaker 1: and now I have to do it. What's your Vemo? Calvin?
Speaker 4: Hold on, brother, I need to go on my cow
Speaker 4: real click?
Speaker 1: Okay? Why am I sending you five dollars? I don't
Speaker 1: know why it feels like the right thing to do
Speaker 1: to send you five. I've never nobody, no callers on
Speaker 1: this show. I've ever You're the first caller on this
Speaker 1: show to ever get paid. No, no, no, no, no, this
Speaker 1: is not, this is not. This is I want you
Speaker 1: to know. I want you to know. First of all, Calvin,
Speaker 1: I I I I love you. I'll help you succeed
Speaker 1: in life. And I don't know and and this is not.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take credit as this be be. This
Speaker 1: is more me being manic than me being a good person.
Speaker 1: But it makes me feel good to give you five.
Speaker 1: What's your vemo? I'm sending you five dollars right now.
Speaker 4: My venmo is Emo E M O B O I
Speaker 4: zero zero is Emo Boys zero zero.
Speaker 1: Emo Boy zero zero. Okay, Calvin, all right, all right, Calvin,
Speaker 1: I sent you. All right, Calvin, I sent you five dollars.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Brother, all right, what are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 4: Well, for me, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna try
Speaker 4: to get a meal since with the person I've been
Speaker 4: living with for the past couple of days, I've been
Speaker 4: starving and I'm trying to get trying to figure out
Speaker 4: what to do. And my friend he doesn't do anything
Speaker 4: about it. Yet he works and he doesn't give me
Speaker 4: anything at all. And I've been trying to clean his apartment,
Speaker 4: trying to bend over backwards, froom everything.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait you start. Do you have a
Speaker 1: Do you have a job.
Speaker 4: I've been trying to get a job, but every job
Speaker 4: I applied to has never got back to me at all.
Speaker 4: And I put a good resume, like I have a
Speaker 4: good resume, and nobody wants to hire me. And I
Speaker 4: worked at home depot, I've worked at Walmart everywhere, and
Speaker 4: I have good cover, I have good customer service. Yet
Speaker 4: I don't let my autist mean in the way of anything.
Speaker 1: Hmmm mmmm okay, okay, okay, Well listen, don't don't uh,
Speaker 1: let's listen to your friends. Don't let this lady drive
Speaker 1: you crazy. And I wish I had something more cool
Speaker 1: and awesome. I wish I had something cooler to say
Speaker 1: to you than just keep trying. But just keep trying, man.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you and everybody. Yeah, just I'm trying. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to keep keep myself on my feet. It's just
Speaker 4: my mental health has been draining me, and I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to let that get in a way.
Speaker 1: Covin, Covin, is anything else us say to the people
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: All I can say is find the woman who means
Speaker 4: the most of you, and find the woman who treats
Speaker 4: you how you want to be treated. Don't let her
Speaker 4: treat you any other way you want to be loved.
Speaker 4: And if a woman gaslights you or treats you like
Speaker 4: any sort of way, that is not love. You need
Speaker 4: to find the one person who means the world to
Speaker 4: you and you truly know she would be the one
Speaker 4: for you. She deserves to know that you You deserve
Speaker 4: everything in the war like love, honesty, loyalty, communication, You
Speaker 4: deserve everything from that. As from my perspective, as I've
Speaker 4: been through many relationships and for right now, I'm thinking
Speaker 4: to myself and you know, I just want everybody to
Speaker 4: find true love, and I just I want everybody to
Speaker 4: deserve what they want, you know, in life, I want
Speaker 4: everyone to be happy.
Speaker 1: Your sweet boy, Calvin, You're a sweet boy. Thank you
Speaker 1: for calling my show, Calvin. Okay, good luck.
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you, and I hope everyone has a
Speaker 4: good night. Okay, good luck, Calvin, thank you, have a
Speaker 4: good night. Get girls.
Speaker 1: Calvin's a sweet boy. Calvin's a sweet guy. I have
Speaker 1: zero regrets sending him five dollars. Nobody else call me
Speaker 1: and asked me for five dollars. That was the only
Speaker 1: time I ever going to do that. When that's what
Speaker 1: happens when I get uh, that's what happens when I
Speaker 1: when I get really hopped hopped up on caffeine and
Speaker 1: vibe ances, I tell people I love them, and I
Speaker 1: send them five dollars and I'm by the way, oh eyes.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, in my uh soul, I actually
Speaker 1: do love Calvin. In this moment, I feel I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of uh, I guess the case like
Speaker 1: I'm some like, but in my gut is like it's
Speaker 1: just though, uh, there's love and maybe and I think
Speaker 1: diamount and do it brings it to the surface. It
Speaker 1: makes me want to give It just makes me want
Speaker 1: to give that guy five dollars. I might wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning and be like, I'm not gonna regret
Speaker 1: him even five dollars. But I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, I don't know I'm acting like I'm acting
Speaker 1: like a crazy person. I feel for Calvin, I really do.
Speaker 1: I feel for Calvin. Again. That's the thing, right is
Speaker 1: you you can have you can again logically know that
Speaker 1: there are problems. Well, so much of life is just
Speaker 1: the fucking uh battle that you, as a human being
Speaker 1: have with what you logically know to be good and bad. Right,
Speaker 1: There's like, what is a part of your brain that
Speaker 1: logically knows how you should be treated and what is
Speaker 1: good and what is bad and blah blah blah, And
Speaker 1: then you have the emotional part of your brain that
Speaker 1: it again it doesn't want to lose things or people,
Speaker 1: is horny that that that fucks you up. So so
Speaker 1: I I I feel for Calvin in his battle within
Speaker 1: his own brain. Hello. Hello, Hi, what is your name?
Speaker 5: Rachel?
Speaker 1: What's up? Rachel? Has life?
Speaker 5: It's going well. I just graduated college, so it's great, exciting.
Speaker 1: Congratulations you, Rachel. Is there anything in particular that you
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about today?
Speaker 5: I wanted to tell you the story of my uncle's disappearance.
Speaker 1: Your uncle's disappearance?
Speaker 5: Sure, okay, So we have to start from the very beginning.
Speaker 5: Before I was born. My uncle was disowned by my
Speaker 5: grandfather and moved to a Native American reservation. That's the beginning.
Speaker 5: We are not Native Americans, so I don't know like
Speaker 5: what the rules are with that, but I don't know.
Speaker 5: And then my grandfather passed away, and then he moved
Speaker 5: back home when he was hit by a bus and
Speaker 5: he became disabled. The bus was a government vehicle, so
Speaker 5: he got a lot of money in a lawsuit, so
Speaker 5: he became a millionaire. Do you have any questions so far?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: No, Okay, So let's fast forward. I'm in eighth grade.
Speaker 5: Not right now, but back in the day. I was
Speaker 5: in eighth grade and he wanted to move with like
Speaker 5: all this money that he had, and he was like
Speaker 5: struggling a little bit, and so my mom was like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: you can stay with us. We can help you find
Speaker 5: a place to live. YadA, YadA, YadA. So my mom
Speaker 5: has six siblings and she's like very known to help
Speaker 5: them out when they're in need. So he lived with
Speaker 5: us for like a month, like came to my eighth
Speaker 5: grade soccer games. Everything was fine, and like he was
Speaker 5: my favorite uncle, and like I just thought he was
Speaker 5: so funny. He was always super outgoing. Turns out he
Speaker 5: was deep in alcoholism, which I know that now, but
Speaker 5: at the time I was just like this, this guy's awesome.
Speaker 5: And then he moved to like a beach and I
Speaker 5: want to say, like Delaware. Eventually he lived with us
Speaker 5: for like two months, and then after that we didn't
Speaker 5: really hear from him, Like I saw pictures of the house,
Speaker 5: like he was like living his life, like he was peaceful.
Speaker 5: And then like a few months later, my mom's like,
Speaker 5: I haven't heard from your uncle, and we're all like, okay, well,
Speaker 5: he's probably just like living his best life on a
Speaker 5: beach somewhere, drinking a thirty racketbush light, just like having
Speaker 5: a great time. And then another month passes, my mom's
Speaker 5: like okay, like something's going on, and turns out my
Speaker 5: uncle had met this woman who claimed to have been
Speaker 5: in love with him, and she said that she was
Speaker 5: like a gem dealer and like sold diamonds and like
Speaker 5: different precious gems, and allegedly that wasn't true at all,
Speaker 5: and she just like took all of his money, like
Speaker 5: from that big lawsuit back in the day. And then
Speaker 5: after that, like we didn't hear from him at all
Speaker 5: for like months, So my mom was like in contact
Speaker 5: with like a private investigator and like all these police
Speaker 5: departments and like no one knew where he was, but
Speaker 5: he had like a car. So eventually my mom gets
Speaker 5: a call. I want to say, this is like another
Speaker 5: like three months later. So at this point, I'm like
Speaker 5: a sophomore in high school. My mom gets a call
Speaker 5: and they're like, we found him. We found him. So
Speaker 5: this is great news to me because this is my
Speaker 5: favorite uncle. And I'm like, we need the laughs back.
Speaker 5: And my mom's like, well, he's in Florida, and so
Speaker 5: I'm not from Florida. I did go to college there,
Speaker 5: but like he got from Delaware to Florida and turns
Speaker 5: out he is now homeless. So he has this car
Speaker 5: and he has these two homeless accomplices who he lives
Speaker 5: with out of the car, and there's some sort of
Speaker 5: I don't know, ruck is going down in Florida, but
Speaker 5: like there's always a ruck is going down in Florida,
Speaker 5: and so like we're like okay without him. But then
Speaker 5: but then a few months later, my mom gets a
Speaker 5: Facebook message from a random woman in like the most
Speaker 5: western part of Virginia possible and like this place, this
Speaker 5: is not a place that you want to be at
Speaker 5: it's like Confederate flags everywhere, like very scary shacks in
Speaker 5: like on top of the hills type shit. And this
Speaker 5: Facebook message is like are you my uncle's sister? And
Speaker 5: she's like yes, and it's like he's dead. But this
Speaker 5: was horrible. This was a big, big, horrible things happening
Speaker 5: to me when I was a sophomore because I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna get to hang out with my alcoholic
Speaker 5: uncle who harasses waitresses at restaurants while I'm six years old.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, yes, chat, rest and power, rest and power.
Speaker 5: So I'm fifteen years old at this point, and my
Speaker 5: mother is like, you know, what would be a great
Speaker 5: family bonding experience if you used your learner's permit to
Speaker 5: drive with me five hours to but fuck Egypt and
Speaker 5: retrieve our uncle's body.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you're living in Egypt?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, Like it's just like me saying butt
Speaker 5: fuck nowhere, but saying butt fuck Egypt.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so this is it's in America. It's not
Speaker 1: in Egypt.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, no, we're no, We're in Virginia.
Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was that was very confusing to say that, to
Speaker 1: say that you're driving to Egypt.
Speaker 5: Someone just said, hey, daughter, you know what would be
Speaker 5: super drum?
Speaker 1: Can you not? Can you not? Can you not look
Speaker 1: at the chat?
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, well look, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: And so you're driving to not Egypt.
Speaker 5: So I'm driving to like the western part of Virginia,
Speaker 5: not West Virginia, but like the westernmost part of Virginia.
Speaker 5: So it's like very much farmland. So I'm fifteen, I
Speaker 5: have my learners permit, like I need a trusted adult
Speaker 5: in the car, and me and my mom and my
Speaker 5: sister drive out to like this random like woman's house,
Speaker 5: the woman who Facebook messaged my mom. And we get
Speaker 5: there like five hours later, and it's like just the
Speaker 5: most random lady we've ever met. And she's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's dead. Like you got to go to like the morgue.
Speaker 5: So there was like three buildings in this town. One
Speaker 5: of them was like a place to have replace tires
Speaker 5: on your car, another one was I don't even remember,
Speaker 5: and then the third one was a more like a
Speaker 5: funeral home. So we are there and we go down
Speaker 5: in the basement. I'm fifteen years old at this point,
Speaker 5: Like let me just say that we go down in
Speaker 5: the basement of this funeral home, which is like where
Speaker 5: they keep bodies, which is like so crazy because I
Speaker 5: would have never known that otherwise. So I'd like to
Speaker 5: thank my mother for this learning experience. And it's my uncle. Okay,
Speaker 5: so obviously I'm like laughing right now, but you have
Speaker 5: to understand, like I knew he was dead for a while,
Speaker 5: and like it's not funny, but he did look like
Speaker 5: he was sleeping. But like upon his body there was
Speaker 5: like the white sheet, like just how you would think
Speaker 5: in a movie, but like but the sheet draped like
Speaker 5: ever so slightly over his right leg. And then we're like,
Speaker 5: what is that? And the guy in the morgue is like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: his leg is missing, like his leg was amputated. So
Speaker 5: I'm here, I'm fifteen. I'm like, did someone cut off
Speaker 5: his leg? And like he died at this point, I'm
Speaker 5: like I need to go home. But apparently because he
Speaker 5: was an alcohol like he got a blood clot in
Speaker 5: his leg and they had to amputate it because he
Speaker 5: was homeless and he never got it checked out. So anyways,
Speaker 5: that literally is not an important part of the story. Anyways,
Speaker 5: beating up the story, we correctly id in my uncle's body,
Speaker 5: May he rest in power. And then we're like, we
Speaker 5: need to go retrieve his belongings out of his car,
Speaker 5: because like he had like mail in his car, and
Speaker 5: like his important documents were in his car, and my
Speaker 5: uncle had a son, my cousin, and he might be
Speaker 5: wondering where it is is my uncle's son. He was
Speaker 5: too busy to come because he was playing Larry the
Speaker 5: Lobster in a free edition of SpongeBob the Musical in
Speaker 5: like New Jersey. So we decided to handle it. So
Speaker 5: we get to where his car was and there's like
Speaker 5: a shack and the two other homeless people were there,
Speaker 5: but like they didn't know what was going on because
Speaker 5: they were, you know, victims of substance abuse. And we
Speaker 5: like get his stuff out of his car, and they're like,
Speaker 5: who are you, Like a man just died here. We're
Speaker 5: like yeah, we're his family, and they're like what and
Speaker 5: we're like yeah. So we get his stuff out of
Speaker 5: his car, and then I found five kittens under the
Speaker 5: like the deck of a shack that he was living in,
Speaker 5: and I rescued them actually, and I adopted them out
Speaker 5: to people. So that was something good that came out
Speaker 5: of it. But eventually we did come to find out
Speaker 5: that they were in possession of some of his belongings
Speaker 5: and they were using his credit cards after his death
Speaker 5: for many months. But we figured that out. And that's
Speaker 5: the story. So there's a lot of unpack like how
Speaker 5: did he live on a Native American reservation? Why was
Speaker 5: he in Florida? The leg thing happened? And then did
Speaker 5: you ever.
Speaker 1: Find did you ever find his leg? Did you ever
Speaker 1: find his leg?
Speaker 5: Right? Where was it? Where was his leg?
Speaker 1: Okay? So you never found a leg?
Speaker 5: No, it was like amputated in like a medical procedure.
Speaker 1: Do you still talk to your aunt my aunts or
Speaker 1: like your uncle? Your uncle had like a lady friend?
Speaker 5: Well he didn't though. It was a woman who scammed
Speaker 5: him out of like a million dollars and said that
Speaker 5: she like sold gems.
Speaker 4: No one does that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. So we never figured it out. What happens?
Speaker 1: There has there been any updates on this?
Speaker 5: No? Every time I bring it up, like my mom
Speaker 5: is just like yeah.
Speaker 1: Whatever, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: And realistically, this wasn't that long.
Speaker 1: Ago, Like wait, how old are you now?
Speaker 5: I'm twenty one?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I guess you'll you'll just never have the
Speaker 1: answers to this right.
Speaker 5: It's like very mysterious and I wish that I could
Speaker 5: have been there after we left the shack to hear
Speaker 5: the homeless people converse. Well, uh, they have something to
Speaker 5: do with it, Like.
Speaker 1: You know, rest in peace to your uncle.
Speaker 5: Yeah he was great. He died doing what he looked.
Speaker 5: What did he love drinking?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 5: I love you guys. Look out for your uncles.
Speaker 1: Obay, the repeat can't goes on the line taking your
Speaker 1: phone calls every night. The repeat can't goes doing his ride.
Speaker 1: He's teaching you about live your life, but he's not
Speaker 1: really an expert.