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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Therapy Gecko Podcast. I am Lyle,

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Speaker 1: I am a gecko. I am a man. As every

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Speaker 1: day inches forward, I lose sight of who I am

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Speaker 1: if I'm a man, if I'm a gecko, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the hell it is that is piloting my

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Speaker 1: eyes or my body. I don't know if it's a soul.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if consciousness is individualized. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what this thing is that incepted and I control whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what I mean when I say

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Speaker 1: I I'm getting too existential. I get existential a lot,

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Speaker 1: and you know, being existential is nice and all, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes you just want to be in the real world

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Speaker 1: with everyone else. What's the matrix thing? The red pill

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Speaker 1: of the blue pill. I'll take the blue pill every time.

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Speaker 1: I will take the blue pill every time. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to know the truth. What's the other one? The

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Speaker 1: allegory of the cave? What's the cave guy? The cave thing?

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Speaker 1: Plato's cave. Who's the cave? Yeah, Plato, it's the Plato, Yeah, Plato.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know what's outside the cave. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna just enjoy what life has to offer, and life's

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Speaker 1: got a lot to offer. It's got people that you

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Speaker 1: can talk to. It's got videos that you can look

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Speaker 1: at on the internet. It's got food you can eat,

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Speaker 1: and it's got things you can do. It's got places

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Speaker 1: you can go, It's got people you can talk to.

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Speaker 1: I think I said that already, and today on the

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Speaker 1: Therapy Echo podcast, we are going to talk to some

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Speaker 1: of those people. It is nine to thirty pm at

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Speaker 1: night at the time I'm recording this. I drank an

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Speaker 1: entire diet mountain Dew, which has about ninety one milligrams

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Speaker 1: of caffeine, and I'm ready to party. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: to some people on the phone. Hi, Hey, what's up man?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm okay man. Where are you calling from? I notice

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Speaker 1: you have a bizarre area code. Bizarre to me, it's

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Speaker 1: normal for you. I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even know how to call in. I'm

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Speaker 2: from Denmark, so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh where in Denmark?

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Speaker 2: I live in a town called Ovus. It's the second

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Speaker 2: biggest city in Denmark.

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Speaker 1: Bro. I love Denmark. So I've been there two or

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Speaker 1: three times. I went there first when I was like eighteen,

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Speaker 1: I went to Copenhagen. I took a trip to this

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Speaker 1: place called Christiania. You know Christiania.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like the free too. And this was when I was eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and like I was, you know, weed was still illegal

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Speaker 1: and hurt, and we heard rumors like, yo, there's this

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Speaker 1: place in Denmark where everyone fucking smokes weed and it's

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Speaker 1: like a little village and it's like an anarchist fucking place.

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Speaker 1: And I remember going there and you know, you got

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Speaker 1: to like push a street and there's all this like

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Speaker 1: this big lake getting high and hanging out and it's

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Speaker 1: just like, damn, this is the coolest motherfucking place ever.

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Speaker 1: And then not just the drugs and stuff, but like

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Speaker 1: Copenhagen too, what a beautiful, beautiful place. Everyone's riding their

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Speaker 1: I know you don't live there, and yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: none of this. I'm just I'm just gassing up Denmark.

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Speaker 1: I love that place.

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Speaker 2: Well, Denmark is kind of nice, yeah, like compared to

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Speaker 2: like a lot of the other places on Earth, you know,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: You feel like what I feel like.

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Speaker 2: We have it good, you know, like, yeah, pretty sick.

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Speaker 1: You sound like you don't have as much of a

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Speaker 1: boner for it as I do.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's because when you live in Denmark from like,

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Speaker 2: if you're from do you know what Jetlin is, it's

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Speaker 2: the main out of Denmark which connects to Germany. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so when you're from Jutland like me, then you find

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Speaker 2: people from Copenhagen, like even the Danish ones, to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh now I feel like a dick.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's it's it's kind of like an it's

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Speaker 2: an internal thing in Denmark because like in Jutland where

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Speaker 2: though you don't know him. And that's a very very

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Speaker 2: bizarre thing in Denmark. I know, in like United States

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Speaker 2: seen as rude to be talking to people, especially in Copenhagen.

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Speaker 2: But in Jutland where I'm from, we just say hi

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, why is it considered rude to talk

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's considered rude, but it's just

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Speaker 2: like in Denmark, like Danish people, we have our own

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Speaker 2: thing going on, like our own agenda, and we know

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Speaker 2: where we're going. So a lot of the time if

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Speaker 2: we get interrupted in that, it's kind of seen as

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Speaker 2: not particularly rude, but just kind of a disruption in

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Speaker 1: One might think, yeah, so let's say that we're at

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Speaker 1: Huh would that be rude? In Denmark.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be rude, but the person behind you would

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Speaker 2: definitely think, huh, why do you need to point that

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, do you make conversation with strangers ever? Or well?

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Speaker 1: Where where do you live again? Joplin in alos, it's.

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Speaker 2: The main part of Denmark connected to Germany is called Jutlin,

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Speaker 2: so it's like the main city there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool? And so you and you guys think that

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Speaker 1: people from Copenhagen are douchebags.

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Speaker 2: Kind of you can you can uh look at a

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Speaker 2: little bit like we're the farmers in Jutland and then

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Speaker 2: the business people in Copenhagen. So in Jutlin we're farmers

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Speaker 2: and we're like greeting each other and you know, our

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Speaker 2: good at partner. But in Copenhagen there's not really time

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Speaker 2: for that. I imagine it would be like kind of

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Well what's your name again? My name is

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Speaker 1: Simon Simon. Well, Simon, I assumed that you called in

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Speaker 1: for more than just to hear me gosh about the

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Speaker 1: city people, So what's up man? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: The past like half a year has been kind of

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Speaker 2: hectic for me? I think I lost my girlfriend. I

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Speaker 2: had a very hectic move out of an apartment because

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Speaker 2: the guy I was rending it from was doing some

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Speaker 2: the rest of the apartment was stark, but like he

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Speaker 2: was in my stuff looking with the flashlight. And my

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Speaker 2: theory is he was looking for the contract, like where

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Speaker 2: we had sided that I could live there and if

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Speaker 2: he found that, because it wasn't digitized, So if you

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Speaker 2: find the physical copy. Then I wouldn't have proved that

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Speaker 2: I could live there, so he can kick me out

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Speaker 2: like right away. So yeah, it's been kind of hectic,

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Speaker 2: but I've moved to a new place where I live alone,

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Speaker 2: which is so nice, and yeah, things are kind of

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Speaker 2: quiet now, but it's kind of eerie because you know,

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Speaker 2: so much stuff happened and now it's just like back

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Speaker 2: to the baseline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how is baseline for you?

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Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing. It's kind of baseline is nice,

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Speaker 2: but I have to make a like a lot of

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Speaker 2: effort to make something happened. Like if I have hobbies,

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Speaker 2: I painted warhamm if Warhammer miniatures, but I have to

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Speaker 2: make quite an effort to like kickstart that hobby again.

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Speaker 1: Why do you feel like it's taking you such an

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Speaker 2: I feel I'm probably My idea is that I have

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Speaker 2: interest is shifting a lot, and I find it very

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Speaker 2: hard to like delve into something where that my interest

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Speaker 2: this period of two months where I paint a lot

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Speaker 2: of Warhammer and spend a lot of money on it

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Speaker 2: kind of just waiting for it naturally to return because

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Speaker 2: it should be fun doing your hobby. It shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: Are right, right? Is it like a like a brain

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you get really specifically, it is, because it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like being dopamine addicted. But I just need

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Speaker 2: and want more dopamine than normal people.

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Speaker 1: In quotations, why, yes, I'm I'm I'm familiar with that.

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Speaker 1: What are your what are your current sources of dopamine?

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Speaker 2: Oh? So I take a medicine for my ADHD, and

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Speaker 2: whenever I do it's not kind of a problem. But

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Speaker 2: when I don't, I eat a lot to like just

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Speaker 2: keep not because I'm hungry, but just to keep like

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Speaker 2: the dopamine flowing. The Oh I know you've talked about

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Speaker 2: like eating a pint of you know, ban and Jerry's,

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Speaker 2: and that would be like the kick. So yeah, when

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Speaker 2: I don't take my medicine, which is during the weekends

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Speaker 2: and when I'm hungover, then I eat a lot.

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Speaker 1: W what medicine do you take? I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: It's something called advance it's like amphetamine, but it just

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Speaker 2: releases very slowly.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait say it again, Advance advance or vivants l

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Speaker 3: vance ell vance Okay, is it is like a stimulant?

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Speaker 2: I think so. Like the way I I kind of

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Speaker 2: know how it works is that it's just like amphetamine,

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Speaker 2: will give like a kick of amphetamine or something, and

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Speaker 2: then you would keep your focus.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. I actually just started taking I took

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Speaker 1: a Vivance for the first time in a while yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and it made me feel like it gave me so

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Speaker 1: much like dopamine, and it was great. It is so

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Speaker 1: interesting to think about how much of this shit is

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Speaker 1: like just yet chasing, chasing brain chemicals.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well the fucking pill. Can you know? You think

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Speaker 1: it's all these external things, but you take a pill

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Speaker 1: and everything changes and your external is the same, but

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Speaker 1: the way you view it is different.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I actually had when I started at the medicine when

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Speaker 2: I first got diagnosed, I started on a different kind

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Speaker 2: of medication and I felt like I would get this

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Speaker 2: filter on my feelings. So beforehand, when we would like

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Speaker 2: when my parents would make my favorite dish for dinner,

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Speaker 2: I would be like really happy, and then when they

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Speaker 2: and then I would be really pissed. But then when

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Speaker 2: I got the medication, it just sort of turned off

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Speaker 2: my feeling things, so everything was kind of great.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like for some people.

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Speaker 2: Some medications like really just the trick, but for me,

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Speaker 2: like most of the medications just make me feel like bland

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: How it might It might just be because it like

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Speaker 2: turns off that dopamine hit.

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Speaker 2: I don't fucking know, niall, And that's the that's the

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Speaker 1: What about just get can you just get a parrot?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, couldn't you be like you could be like the

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Common Side Effects the show on HBO? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What's what animal would be the crown jewel of your

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Speaker 2: Mister Lyle, you know this. It would be a gecko.

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Speaker 1: Listen, let me all right here, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, that would be so cool. I would feed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what what kind of what what do we got?

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Speaker 1: Now, he's very tempting. I got I actually last night,

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Speaker 1: You know, like you're just spending so much time around

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Speaker 1: Mature, Simon. Uh, this was a good conversation, man. I

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Speaker 2: Well, I can probably tell you already that we probably

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Speaker 1: No, don't say that. Fuck fuck you, Simon, Fuck you Simon.

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Speaker 1: I believe. I believe that both of us will figure

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Speaker 2: All right, I believe as well?

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Speaker 1: Do you really? I hope that's the pro The first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I do believe. I do believe that people

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Speaker 2: I'm twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Uh do you ever? Do you ever go to Copenhagen

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Speaker 2: No? I do, And the girlfriend I broke up with

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Speaker 2: girl I dated after her was like a Satanist, but

438
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: she was kind of sweet but a Satanist nonetheless, and

439
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: kind of intense.

440
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: How so.

441
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: Just like and everything like in emotions. I remember, like

442
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: when I met her at the night that I met her,

443
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: like this other girl came in which I have with

444
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: which I have seen like in the past of my life,

445
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: and she came to say hi and just like put

446
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: a hand on my shoulder and said hey, Sammon, and

447
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: I was like hey, and then they go to sickness go.

448
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: She was just gone instantly because she feld the vice.

449
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But I am you are you? Are you

450
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: gonna try to like go on more dates and stuff?

451
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of trying to practice practice practice ethical dating.

452
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: So no ghosting, no being a dick, being clear about

453
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: boundaries and what you're looking for and like dating interesting.

454
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: Interesting, Wait, tell me more about this ethical dating, Like

455
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: you're like no ghosting, no like letting things trail off,

456
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: like firmly ending and being like like, tell me, tell

457
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: me more about this philosophy.

458
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have the time. Then I

459
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: have to put you down for a minute because I

460
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: have to get some urum and then I can pick them.

461
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: Can you hang away?

462
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: Oh?

463
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: You have you have to go. You have to get

464
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: out of here.

465
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: Now I'm not to get out of here, but I

466
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: have to go to where the train is. So I

467
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: just have to get like a gear on. It's going

468
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: to take five seconds and then I can tell you

469
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: on the wather.

470
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, right, I'm back, all right, Yeah, tell

471
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: me more about tell me more about your ethical dating philosophy.

472
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 2: Yeah. So in a world where like like in the

473
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: modern world, where there's so much ghosting, there's so much

474
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: non responsive I just kind of got tired of it

475
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: and decided that change starts with yourself. And I've actually

476
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: gotten a lot of positive feedback on it, and like

477
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: this one girl when I was dating the sickness. Then

478
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: then there was this other girl I met with on

479
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: Kinder and I just told her that I was seeing

480
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: someone else and that I wanted to know where that went.

481
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: And she was like, cool, text me it ever goes

482
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: the head or you're ever not being again, And that

483
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: worked out fine, and I texted her afterwards and we

484
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: kind of met up after that.

485
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: M how was how was that meeting?

486
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: It was good, like we didn't really click in a

487
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: lot of ways. If you had a good conversation, that

488
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: was it, but not really leading to anything further.

489
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: Mh yeah, I yeah. I think it can be hard

490
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: emotionally to always be like I don't know, it can

491
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: be hard for some people to like communicate everything all

492
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: the time because it's like, well is this too much

493
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: after having just you know, met once, and you know

494
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 1: a lot of people I think kind of struggle with

495
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah.

496
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: I feel like in then in Denmark, people just avoid

497
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: the confrontation of it, and but it's not that bad.

498
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: Like now, I've tried it a couple of times, just

499
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: being honest and being like, hey, I don't think we

500
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: should see each other anymore, and people actually do take it.

501
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean women do. I don't know about men. I've

502
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: heard a lot of scary stories about men who can

503
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: celebrate being predicted, but I've had a lot of good

504
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: experiences with women like open and upfront about it.

505
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it is a European thing to

506
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: be like direct? I know, I know, like in Ant,

507
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: like in in the Netherlands, there's a whole thing of

508
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: like like Dutch directness, like people are very like good

509
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: at communicating. Yeah, do you think it's a European thing.

510
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: It might be. I don't think we're good at it

511
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: in Denmark. Like I hear stories from like my like

512
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: platonic girlfriend, like my friends friends who are women that

513
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of bad acts out there.

514
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: So are you what's your what's your like dating goal?

515
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 1: You're trying to get married and all that.

516
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about marriage. I'm not like that's

517
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: not kind of my main focus. But my main focus

518
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: is definitely a family and kids. Nice, Like I really

519
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: want to be a dad, like a lot nice.

520
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Are you trying to be a dad like like like

521
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: soon you're trying to be like a young dad.

522
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm trying to be a dad like with

523
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: the right woman. So that like my goal as a

524
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: dad is to be the best dad possible. So that

525
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: will only make sense if I have the best wife possible,

526
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: like the best mother as well.

527
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, yeah, man, that's the most fucking

528
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: important decision you can make in your life.

529
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

530
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: That's cool.

531
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: That's like my end, but nothing like yeah.

532
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure We're gonna figure out the brains. We're

533
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna figure out the brain. Both, Simon, I'm gonna fucking

534
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: manifest I don't know if I believe in manifestation, but

535
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna manifest for us. Okay, all right, We're both

536
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna figure out the brain. We're both gonna have beautiful

537
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: wives and children and yeah, and you're gonna have a

538
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an animal sanctuary, and I'm gonna have a.

539
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Uh like that like a lot on my plate though,

540
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: to both have a family and an animal shelter.

541
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that is a lot. Maybe that is a lot,

542
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: not all at once, not all at once. Maybe when

543
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: you're like seventy or some shit. Maybe when you're seventy.

544
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna smoke weed when I'm seventeen and so

545
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: the rest of my life.

546
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: You can fuck man, you can do that now.

547
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: I am doing that now. But like, I'm definitely gonna

548
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: increase in amount of wheat smoking when I get older.

549
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: I think. I mean at that point, just do you

550
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: know heroin or something. Well, by the time you're seventy,

551
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some I mean, there's new drugs all

552
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the time, like ketamine has become popular and what is it?

553
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: Two C too sweet, the pink one. So by the

554
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: time you're seventy, there's gonna be some you know, there's

555
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna be super weed or some new thing to snort

556
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: or inject or put up your ass, and you know

557
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: you'd probably be doing that.

558
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be able to smoke your ADHD medsine.

559
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: Smoking adderall sounds nuts, So.

560
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: That could be crazy though.

561
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: Simon, Uh, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna end this

562
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: phone call so that I can go eat Ben and Jerry's.

563
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: That sounds really nice, brother, is.

564
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Nice talking to you. I really hope that you do

565
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: figure the things out. And uh, yeah, I'm gonna I'm

566
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: gonna come to Denmark at some point. I don't know

567
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: what you do.

568
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: I problemise I'm gonna be at your show. You're not

569
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: gonna do a show, then hit me up. We'll go

570
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: to Christina.

571
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh, actually sounds nice. Yeah. I did a show in

572
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: Copenhagen a couple of years ago. Maybe I'll do another one.

573
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows, who knows, who knows? Yeah, Simon,

574
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: is there anything else I want to say to the

575
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

576
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: Mmm, I guess just kind of stay fresh, stay.

577
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: Positive, beautiful, believe, take care of Simon, take care of live.

578
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll start an animal sanctuary. No, all those animals

579
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: will be fucked if I had an animal sanctuary. If

580
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: you're an animal out there, you better pray you don't

581
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: end up in my sanctuary. Because I can't even take

582
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: care of a plant. Maybe I'll have a diet coke sanctuary. Yeah,

583
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: that sounds more. That sounds like more of a thing

584
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I can take care of. Hello, Yes, Hi, what is

585
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: your name?

586
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: My name is Calvin.

587
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: Calvin, like Calvin Klein.

588
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: Yes.

589
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Do you get that a lot to people say that

590
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: to you a lot?

591
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: Oh?

592
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 4: Yes, definitely.

593
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel like Calvin Klein?

594
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: Not really? I wish I was rich like Calvin Klein.

595
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Is he rich or dead? Or I guess you could.

596
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I guess you can't be. Can you be rich and dead?

597
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: I guess when you're dead, you no longer own things.

598
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: So he's either whatever. I mean, he cares about him.

599
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about you. Let's talk about you. Calvin. I'm

600
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: so in the mood to talk to you right now.

601
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: I really am I I You're I'm really going to

602
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: treat this conversation like you and me are the only

603
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: two people on the planet Earth for the rest of eternity.

604
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: So I'm here, I'm ready. Whatever you got to throw out,

605
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: I will I will catch it. You could if now,

606
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: if you want to say something crazy and insane and horrible,

607
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: I now's the time to do it, because I'm ready

608
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: for whatever you got to go on right now.

609
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: Well, to be quite honest, man, I've been going through

610
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: a lot, Like I'm trying to go through a breakup.

611
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: At the same time, my ex girlfriend wants to get

612
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 4: back with me, but she's playing my games. Yet she

613
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: wants to get back with me, but she's talking to

614
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: other guys, and I'm not sure what to do about that.

615
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're going through When you say you're going

616
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: through a breakup, this is and the ex that wants

617
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: to get back to you. There's one woman in this story.

618
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: There's not multiple Yeah, there's only one woman.

619
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, And how old are you? I just want to

620
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: know I am twenty four, twenty four, and tell me

621
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: about this woman. Tell me about the relationship you had

622
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: with her.

623
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: Well, to be honest with us, with her, she kept

624
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: always yelling at me and kept trying to gaslight me

625
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: when she kept trying to say I never listened to her.

626
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: I never did anything she wanted me to do. Yet

627
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 4: I did everything before I've been over backwards, and I

628
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: loved her. She meant everything to me, and I didn't.

629
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: I just did everything she wanted me to do. Like

630
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 4: I thought what she did what she did was love.

631
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure you thought what she did was love?

632
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: What do you mean by what she did?

633
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm used to being gaslet and I thought

634
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: when I got with her, things will be different. But

635
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 4: apparently she told me lies and I just fed into it,

636
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: and I, you know, I just wanted to believe her,

637
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: you know, like I I just wanted to be with her.

638
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: And I don't know, like dude, like I've I've been

639
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: with her for off and on for two years, and

640
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: I loved her.

641
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: Dude, why do you love her?

642
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 4: Because truth be told? Like her and I connected more.

643
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: Her and I had a lot of comment but at

644
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: the same time, I had a lot of trauma for

645
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: my exes in the past. And after her and I

646
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: broke up, and I felt, you know, my eyes open up,

647
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, she told me, she loved me.

648
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: She did all these things for me. She bought me gibs,

649
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: and you know, she was trying to depraise me, and

650
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 4: I thought that was love. But apparently that's not love

651
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: at all. That's well, my friends would try to tell me, m.

652
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Oh, what are your friends? What are your friends telling you?

653
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: My friends are trying to tell me she's being a

654
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: narcissist by telling me lies and trying to gastle. I

655
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: mean to try to get back with her, and what

656
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: she did was not love because she was trying to

657
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 4: yell at me, trying to tell me that I didn't

658
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: listen to her. I like, I didn't do anything around

659
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: the house, but I did everything for I cleaned for her,

660
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: I cooked for her, I thought her things, I paid

661
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: her rents and everything. But yet apparently things are not

662
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 4: going her way.

663
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Mmmmmm mmmmmm. How long has it been since she talked

664
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: to this lady?

665
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: Uh?

666
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: To be honest, this morning, this.

667
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: Morning, are you going on dates? Are you seeing anyone else?

668
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: Not?

669
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 4: Right now?

670
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Not at all?

671
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: What else is going on in your life?

672
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: Well?

673
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: You know, to be honest, I've been trying to go

674
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: out more of my friends try to try to get

675
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: my mind off of things. Tried to get me into

676
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: an environment where I feel like I'm accepted and where

677
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 4: my friends want me to, you know, feel like I'm okay.

678
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: That sounds great. You sound like you have good friends,

679
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: you have you been hanging out with them a lot?

680
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course. Like the other day, my friends

681
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: took me to get a couple of drinks at the bar,

682
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 4: and my my eggs kept trying to blow my and

683
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 4: my phone up. She's like, where are you at?

684
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: What are you doing.

685
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just hanging out with my friends. She's like, oh,

686
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: my friends already good friends. And she's like, are you

687
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: trying to talk to any woman? I'm like, no, I'm

688
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 4: just hanging out my friends having a few beers.

689
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: Mmm.

690
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: You know, look, I'm gonna you know, I'll say this,

691
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: Ma Calvin. I'm really no expert on these things, but

692
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I have these kind of amorphous thoughts and feelings about

693
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: love and relationships and how to handle it. And you know,

694
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, right like,

695
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: you want to be in a relationship with someone that

696
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: you feel safe and comfortable and secure around. And I

697
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know you, but you said this

698
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: lady is like yelling at you and and you know

699
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: you guys broke up, but she's being jealous, and it's like,

700
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: do you do you feel secure and safe around this lady?

701
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: Well, I moved away from her, and I feel a

702
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 4: lot safe for being away from her. Like no, I'm

703
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: seven hours away from her, and ever since I moved away,

704
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: I feel a lot more safer. But yet she was

705
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: trying to get me come back to her.

706
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: You know, what do you want to do with your life? Man? What?

707
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Because where you're at now, you got all these friends.

708
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm in North Dakota with all my friends and Tripa

709
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 4: told them I want to become a streamer. Like when

710
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: I was with her, I had to put on my

711
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: pause because she got mad at me for trying to

712
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 4: you know, trying to make trying to make content. And

713
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: now with my free time, I'm trying to put more

714
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: content out for people.

715
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, wait a minute, she got mad. Why was

716
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: she mad at you for trying to make content?

717
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: She said that she thought content, more content was more

718
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: important than her, which I told her she was more

719
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 4: important content, But yet her mind, she thought that trying

720
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: to make content come come up.

721
00:40:49,560 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: Calvin Calvin. Oh god, man, Calvin, listen, brother, my friend, Calvin.

722
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: You just from my perspective, you got a nice setup

723
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: going on. You got you got you really, you got

724
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: a nice setup going on. You got a thing you

725
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: want to do. You got good ass friends who, uh

726
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a god what a gift it

727
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: is to have like other people in your life who

728
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: give a fuck about you enough to offer you genuine

729
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: perspective on your situation and try to knock yourself out

730
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: of yourself when you're going insane. You know, that's that's lucky.

731
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: You're blessed to have that. You you want to stay

732
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: around those people. Those are good people that you got

733
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: around you, you know, and then you do and if

734
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: you if if you go back to this lady who

735
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: doesn't want you to uh pursue your your hobbies and

736
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: ambitions and who's driving you crazy? You know, crazy man?

737
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: You see young for that, I'm not telling I'm not

738
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: telling you anything. Calvin. I'm sorry I talked over you,

739
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: But Calvin, I'm not telling you anything. I'm not telling

740
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: you anything. You don't fucking know you We're just going

741
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: around in circus because I'm not the first person to

742
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: tell you this. I can I can tell that by

743
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: your friends. Oh yeah, the problem is that the problem

744
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: is that it's hard, right because you form a fucking

745
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: that that's the thing. That's what I think, And I

746
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: want to I want you to know I empathize with

747
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: you on this because somebody can be like you can

748
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 1: like logically, somebody can be very toxic and you can

749
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: know that, and you can know they're not right for you,

750
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: and you can know in your heart and in your

751
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: gut that that you know, yeah, they're not right for you.

752
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: But what sucks is that I mean not what sucks,

753
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: it just it just is what it is. It's fucking life.

754
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: It's like you form a strong connection with them, and

755
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: that connection it's a one of one thing. And after

756
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: a lot of time and a lot of affection and

757
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: a lot of energy and a lot of love, you

758
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: build a connection with someone on like an emotional, spiritual,

759
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: physical level, and your logic and this connection they don't

760
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: compute with each other. Your friends are only operating off

761
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: of logic. That's why they're able to be like, hey,

762
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: you know this lady is not is not good for

763
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: you because they're not blinded by the connection and the

764
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: connection is a real thing, and it's painful to let

765
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: go of that connection. And I empathize with you on that.

766
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: But the logic logic usually wins you know so, and

767
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: and if it helped, makes you feel about better. Over time,

768
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: as you do move yourself in the direction of where

769
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: you actually want to be, and shit, you'll you'll naturally

770
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: develop more connections. But I understand, I understand the pain.

771
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: But listen to your friends. Man, God damn, your friends

772
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: sound cool.

773
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: I will.

774
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Lyle.

775
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: All right? Calvin, Calvin, Calvin? Is there anything else I

776
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: can do for you at all? Do you want five dollars?

777
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I wish I'll vemo you.

778
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 1: Five dollars right now?

779
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: Shiit?

780
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: What's your what's your what's your venom? And vemo? You

781
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: five dollars? Calvin? What's your Veandmo? And Vemo? And you

782
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: five dollars? I have no idea why I'm doing this

783
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: right now. I just said I I said I would,

784
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: and now I have to do it. What's your Vemo? Calvin?

785
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: Hold on, brother, I need to go on my cow

786
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 4: real click?

787
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Okay? Why am I sending you five dollars? I don't

788
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: know why it feels like the right thing to do

789
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: to send you five. I've never nobody, no callers on

790
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: this show. I've ever You're the first caller on this

791
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: show to ever get paid. No, no, no, no, no, this

792
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: is not, this is not. This is I want you

793
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: to know. I want you to know. First of all, Calvin,

794
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: I I I I love you. I'll help you succeed

795
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: in life. And I don't know and and this is not.

796
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take credit as this be be. This

797
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: is more me being manic than me being a good person.

798
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: But it makes me feel good to give you five.

799
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: What's your vemo? I'm sending you five dollars right now.

800
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 4: My venmo is Emo E M O B O I

801
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: zero zero is Emo Boys zero zero.

802
00:45:54,680 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Emo Boy zero zero. Okay, Calvin, all right, all right, Calvin,

803
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: I sent you. All right, Calvin, I sent you five dollars.

804
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

805
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Brother, all right, what are you gonna do with it?

806
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 4: Well, for me, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna try

807
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: to get a meal since with the person I've been

808
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: living with for the past couple of days, I've been

809
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: starving and I'm trying to get trying to figure out

810
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: what to do. And my friend he doesn't do anything

811
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: about it. Yet he works and he doesn't give me

812
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: anything at all. And I've been trying to clean his apartment,

813
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: trying to bend over backwards, froom everything.

814
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait you start. Do you have a

815
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: Do you have a job.

816
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: I've been trying to get a job, but every job

817
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 4: I applied to has never got back to me at all.

818
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: And I put a good resume, like I have a

819
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: good resume, and nobody wants to hire me. And I

820
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: worked at home depot, I've worked at Walmart everywhere, and

821
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: I have good cover, I have good customer service. Yet

822
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: I don't let my autist mean in the way of anything.

823
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: Hmmm mmmm okay, okay, okay, Well listen, don't don't uh,

824
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: let's listen to your friends. Don't let this lady drive

825
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: you crazy. And I wish I had something more cool

826
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: and awesome. I wish I had something cooler to say

827
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: to you than just keep trying. But just keep trying, man.

828
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: I appreciate you and everybody. Yeah, just I'm trying. I'm

829
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: trying to keep keep myself on my feet. It's just

830
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: my mental health has been draining me, and I'm not

831
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 4: trying to let that get in a way.

832
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: Covin, Covin, is anything else us say to the people

833
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?

834
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: All I can say is find the woman who means

835
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 4: the most of you, and find the woman who treats

836
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: you how you want to be treated. Don't let her

837
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: treat you any other way you want to be loved.

838
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: And if a woman gaslights you or treats you like

839
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: any sort of way, that is not love. You need

840
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: to find the one person who means the world to

841
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 4: you and you truly know she would be the one

842
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: for you. She deserves to know that you You deserve

843
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: everything in the war like love, honesty, loyalty, communication, You

844
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: deserve everything from that. As from my perspective, as I've

845
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: been through many relationships and for right now, I'm thinking

846
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: to myself and you know, I just want everybody to

847
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: find true love, and I just I want everybody to

848
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 4: deserve what they want, you know, in life, I want

849
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 4: everyone to be happy.

850
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: Your sweet boy, Calvin, You're a sweet boy. Thank you

851
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: for calling my show, Calvin. Okay, good luck.

852
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you, and I hope everyone has a

853
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: good night. Okay, good luck, Calvin, thank you, have a

854
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 4: good night. Get girls.

855
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: Calvin's a sweet boy. Calvin's a sweet guy. I have

856
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: zero regrets sending him five dollars. Nobody else call me

857
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: and asked me for five dollars. That was the only

858
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: time I ever going to do that. When that's what

859
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: happens when I get uh, that's what happens when I

860
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: when I get really hopped hopped up on caffeine and

861
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: vibe ances, I tell people I love them, and I

862
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: send them five dollars and I'm by the way, oh eyes.

863
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Just so you know, in my uh soul, I actually

864
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: do love Calvin. In this moment, I feel I feel

865
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: like a lot of uh, I guess the case like

866
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm some like, but in my gut is like it's

867
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: just though, uh, there's love and maybe and I think

868
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: diamount and do it brings it to the surface. It

869
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: makes me want to give It just makes me want

870
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: to give that guy five dollars. I might wake up

871
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: in the morning and be like, I'm not gonna regret

872
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: him even five dollars. But I'm like, I don't know,

873
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, I don't know I'm acting like I'm acting

874
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: like a crazy person. I feel for Calvin, I really do.

875
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: I feel for Calvin. Again. That's the thing, right is

876
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: you you can have you can again logically know that

877
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: there are problems. Well, so much of life is just

878
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the fucking uh battle that you, as a human being

879
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: have with what you logically know to be good and bad. Right,

880
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: There's like, what is a part of your brain that

881
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: logically knows how you should be treated and what is

882
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: good and what is bad and blah blah blah, And

883
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: then you have the emotional part of your brain that

884
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: it again it doesn't want to lose things or people,

885
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: is horny that that that fucks you up. So so

886
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: I I I feel for Calvin in his battle within

887
00:50:52,840 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: his own brain. Hello. Hello, Hi, what is your name?

888
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 5: Rachel?

889
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: What's up? Rachel? Has life?

890
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 5: It's going well. I just graduated college, so it's great, exciting.

891
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Congratulations you, Rachel. Is there anything in particular that you

892
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about today?

893
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: I wanted to tell you the story of my uncle's disappearance.

894
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: Your uncle's disappearance?

895
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 5: Sure, okay, So we have to start from the very beginning.

896
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 5: Before I was born. My uncle was disowned by my

897
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 5: grandfather and moved to a Native American reservation. That's the beginning.

898
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 5: We are not Native Americans, so I don't know like

899
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 5: what the rules are with that, but I don't know.

900
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: And then my grandfather passed away, and then he moved

901
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 5: back home when he was hit by a bus and

902
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 5: he became disabled. The bus was a government vehicle, so

903
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: he got a lot of money in a lawsuit, so

904
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 5: he became a millionaire. Do you have any questions so far?

905
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

906
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 5: No, Okay, So let's fast forward. I'm in eighth grade.

907
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 5: Not right now, but back in the day. I was

908
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: in eighth grade and he wanted to move with like

909
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 5: all this money that he had, and he was like

910
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 5: struggling a little bit, and so my mom was like, Okay, yeah,

911
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 5: you can stay with us. We can help you find

912
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 5: a place to live. YadA, YadA, YadA. So my mom

913
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 5: has six siblings and she's like very known to help

914
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: them out when they're in need. So he lived with

915
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 5: us for like a month, like came to my eighth

916
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: grade soccer games. Everything was fine, and like he was

917
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 5: my favorite uncle, and like I just thought he was

918
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: so funny. He was always super outgoing. Turns out he

919
00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 5: was deep in alcoholism, which I know that now, but

920
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: at the time I was just like this, this guy's awesome.

921
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 5: And then he moved to like a beach and I

922
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 5: want to say, like Delaware. Eventually he lived with us

923
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: for like two months, and then after that we didn't

924
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 5: really hear from him, Like I saw pictures of the house,

925
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 5: like he was like living his life, like he was peaceful.

926
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: And then like a few months later, my mom's like,

927
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: I haven't heard from your uncle, and we're all like, okay, well,

928
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 5: he's probably just like living his best life on a

929
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 5: beach somewhere, drinking a thirty racketbush light, just like having

930
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 5: a great time. And then another month passes, my mom's

931
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 5: like okay, like something's going on, and turns out my

932
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 5: uncle had met this woman who claimed to have been

933
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 5: in love with him, and she said that she was

934
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: like a gem dealer and like sold diamonds and like

935
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 5: different precious gems, and allegedly that wasn't true at all,

936
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 5: and she just like took all of his money, like

937
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: from that big lawsuit back in the day. And then

938
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 5: after that, like we didn't hear from him at all

939
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 5: for like months, So my mom was like in contact

940
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 5: with like a private investigator and like all these police

941
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 5: departments and like no one knew where he was, but

942
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 5: he had like a car. So eventually my mom gets

943
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 5: a call. I want to say, this is like another

944
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 5: like three months later. So at this point, I'm like

945
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 5: a sophomore in high school. My mom gets a call

946
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 5: and they're like, we found him. We found him. So

947
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: this is great news to me because this is my

948
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 5: favorite uncle. And I'm like, we need the laughs back.

949
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 5: And my mom's like, well, he's in Florida, and so

950
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 5: I'm not from Florida. I did go to college there,

951
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 5: but like he got from Delaware to Florida and turns

952
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 5: out he is now homeless. So he has this car

953
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 5: and he has these two homeless accomplices who he lives

954
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 5: with out of the car, and there's some sort of

955
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 5: I don't know, ruck is going down in Florida, but

956
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 5: like there's always a ruck is going down in Florida,

957
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 5: and so like we're like okay without him. But then

958
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 5: but then a few months later, my mom gets a

959
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 5: Facebook message from a random woman in like the most

960
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 5: western part of Virginia possible and like this place, this

961
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 5: is not a place that you want to be at

962
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 5: it's like Confederate flags everywhere, like very scary shacks in

963
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 5: like on top of the hills type shit. And this

964
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 5: Facebook message is like are you my uncle's sister? And

965
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 5: she's like yes, and it's like he's dead. But this

966
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 5: was horrible. This was a big, big, horrible things happening

967
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 5: to me when I was a sophomore because I was like,

968
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna get to hang out with my alcoholic

969
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 5: uncle who harasses waitresses at restaurants while I'm six years old.

970
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 5: Like yeah, yes, chat, rest and power, rest and power.

971
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 5: So I'm fifteen years old at this point, and my

972
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 5: mother is like, you know, what would be a great

973
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 5: family bonding experience if you used your learner's permit to

974
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 5: drive with me five hours to but fuck Egypt and

975
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 5: retrieve our uncle's body.

976
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you're living in Egypt?

977
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: No, no, no, Like it's just like me saying butt

978
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 5: fuck nowhere, but saying butt fuck Egypt.

979
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so this is it's in America. It's not

980
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: in Egypt.

981
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, no, we're no, We're in Virginia.

982
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, all right, Yeah.

983
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: That was that was very confusing to say that, to

984
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: say that you're driving to Egypt.

985
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 5: Someone just said, hey, daughter, you know what would be

986
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 5: super drum?

987
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: Can you not? Can you not? Can you not look

988
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: at the chat?

989
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, well look, okay, go ahead.

990
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: And so you're driving to not Egypt.

991
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 5: So I'm driving to like the western part of Virginia,

992
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 5: not West Virginia, but like the westernmost part of Virginia.

993
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 5: So it's like very much farmland. So I'm fifteen, I

994
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 5: have my learners permit, like I need a trusted adult

995
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: in the car, and me and my mom and my

996
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 5: sister drive out to like this random like woman's house,

997
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 5: the woman who Facebook messaged my mom. And we get

998
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 5: there like five hours later, and it's like just the

999
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 5: most random lady we've ever met. And she's like, yeah,

1000
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 5: he's dead. Like you got to go to like the morgue.

1001
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 5: So there was like three buildings in this town. One

1002
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 5: of them was like a place to have replace tires

1003
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 5: on your car, another one was I don't even remember,

1004
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 5: and then the third one was a more like a

1005
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: funeral home. So we are there and we go down

1006
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 5: in the basement. I'm fifteen years old at this point,

1007
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 5: Like let me just say that we go down in

1008
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 5: the basement of this funeral home, which is like where

1009
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: they keep bodies, which is like so crazy because I

1010
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 5: would have never known that otherwise. So I'd like to

1011
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 5: thank my mother for this learning experience. And it's my uncle. Okay,

1012
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 5: so obviously I'm like laughing right now, but you have

1013
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 5: to understand, like I knew he was dead for a while,

1014
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: and like it's not funny, but he did look like

1015
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 5: he was sleeping. But like upon his body there was

1016
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 5: like the white sheet, like just how you would think

1017
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 5: in a movie, but like but the sheet draped like

1018
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 5: ever so slightly over his right leg. And then we're like,

1019
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 5: what is that? And the guy in the morgue is like, oh, yeah,

1020
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 5: his leg is missing, like his leg was amputated. So

1021
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 5: I'm here, I'm fifteen. I'm like, did someone cut off

1022
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 5: his leg? And like he died at this point, I'm

1023
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 5: like I need to go home. But apparently because he

1024
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 5: was an alcohol like he got a blood clot in

1025
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 5: his leg and they had to amputate it because he

1026
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 5: was homeless and he never got it checked out. So anyways,

1027
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 5: that literally is not an important part of the story. Anyways,

1028
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 5: beating up the story, we correctly id in my uncle's body,

1029
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 5: May he rest in power. And then we're like, we

1030
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 5: need to go retrieve his belongings out of his car,

1031
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: because like he had like mail in his car, and

1032
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 5: like his important documents were in his car, and my

1033
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 5: uncle had a son, my cousin, and he might be

1034
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 5: wondering where it is is my uncle's son. He was

1035
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 5: too busy to come because he was playing Larry the

1036
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 5: Lobster in a free edition of SpongeBob the Musical in

1037
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 5: like New Jersey. So we decided to handle it. So

1038
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 5: we get to where his car was and there's like

1039
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 5: a shack and the two other homeless people were there,

1040
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 5: but like they didn't know what was going on because

1041
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 5: they were, you know, victims of substance abuse. And we

1042
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 5: like get his stuff out of his car, and they're like,

1043
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 5: who are you, Like a man just died here. We're

1044
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 5: like yeah, we're his family, and they're like what and

1045
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 5: we're like yeah. So we get his stuff out of

1046
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 5: his car, and then I found five kittens under the

1047
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 5: like the deck of a shack that he was living in,

1048
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 5: and I rescued them actually, and I adopted them out

1049
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 5: to people. So that was something good that came out

1050
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 5: of it. But eventually we did come to find out

1051
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 5: that they were in possession of some of his belongings

1052
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 5: and they were using his credit cards after his death

1053
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 5: for many months. But we figured that out. And that's

1054
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 5: the story. So there's a lot of unpack like how

1055
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 5: did he live on a Native American reservation? Why was

1056
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 5: he in Florida? The leg thing happened? And then did

1057
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 5: you ever.

1058
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Find did you ever find his leg? Did you ever

1059
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: find his leg?

1060
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 5: Right? Where was it? Where was his leg?

1061
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: Okay? So you never found a leg?

1062
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 5: No, it was like amputated in like a medical procedure.

1063
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: Do you still talk to your aunt my aunts or

1064
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: like your uncle? Your uncle had like a lady friend?

1065
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 5: Well he didn't though. It was a woman who scammed

1066
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 5: him out of like a million dollars and said that

1067
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 5: she like sold gems.

1068
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: No one does that.

1069
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. So we never figured it out. What happens?

1070
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: There has there been any updates on this?

1071
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 5: No? Every time I bring it up, like my mom

1072
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 5: is just like yeah.

1073
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: Whatever, okay, okay.

1074
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 5: And realistically, this wasn't that long.

1075
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Ago, Like wait, how old are you now?

1076
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 5: I'm twenty one?

1077
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So I guess you'll you'll just never have the

1078
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: answers to this right.

1079
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 5: It's like very mysterious and I wish that I could

1080
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 5: have been there after we left the shack to hear

1081
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: the homeless people converse. Well, uh, they have something to

1082
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 5: do with it, Like.

1083
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, rest in peace to your uncle.

1084
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Speaker 5: Yeah he was great. He died doing what he looked.

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01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 5: What did he love drinking?

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

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01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

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01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 5: I love you guys. Look out for your uncles.

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01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: Obay, the repeat can't goes on the line taking your

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01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: phone calls every night. The repeat can't goes doing his ride.

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01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: He's teaching you about live your life, but he's not

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Speaker 1: really an expert.