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Speaker 1: am John Schmelt, joined by Paul Datino. As the Baseball

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Speaker 1: All Star Game gets on the way, little counter programming

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Speaker 1: for you. Training camp is on the horizon. Giants rookies

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Speaker 1: reported they were in the building today, on this Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and a week from today, the veterans are here in

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Speaker 1: East Rutherford to get ready for Veterans Training Camp. We

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Speaker 1: got a few days of unpadded practices, then the pads

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Speaker 1: come on. Then you get ready for preseason games, join practices,

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Speaker 1: and we are rolling. Paul Datino, it comes to k

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Speaker 1: it sure does, John, And you.

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Speaker 2: Know, for most people, July is hot and sticky and

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Speaker 2: it's time to go to the beach. For me, it's

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Speaker 2: like Christmas. It really is, because I'm opening the presence,

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Speaker 2: getting a chance to see the new guys coming in,

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Speaker 2: the new young folks, the rookies, the draft class, the

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Speaker 2: new free agents. This is where it all starts to

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Speaker 2: happen now, training camp on the twenty second, that's next week.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is going to be here. Then the next day

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Speaker 2: is the first full practice. Well, well they'll only be

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Speaker 2: in shirts and shorts. They won't actually get into full

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Speaker 2: pads until the weekend. But I will tell you, John,

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Speaker 2: there is so much optimism, so much energy in this

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Speaker 2: building right now as these folks are coming in because

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Speaker 2: the Giants know they've added a lot of talent during

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Speaker 2: this offseason and now they're just waiting for it to

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Speaker 1: And that brings us to our biggest storylines of camp

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Speaker 1: dot com. So, Paul, let's go through most of the

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Speaker 1: big stories here. And I think what I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: see only because when we have spring practice here and

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Speaker 1: wear at every practice there are no pads. I want

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Speaker 1: to see Abdual Carter play with some pads on. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm always excited about. You know, you take a

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Speaker 1: look at what the Giants did in the draft, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to talk about Jackson Dardan.

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Speaker 1: We are too, but Abdul Carter is going to look

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Speaker 1: like a star right away. Just his movement skills and

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Speaker 1: what we saw in the spring even without pads. We've

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Speaker 1: seen him play in pads. It's going to translate. So

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till we get that first padded practice.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's going to be either the Sunday or Monday.

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Speaker 1: After the players arrived, they have a few agains unpadded practice,

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Speaker 1: and they get a day off, then they come back

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Speaker 1: that edge, use that inhuman flexibility he has rushing off

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Speaker 1: the edge, to see what he can do as the

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Speaker 2: You know, John, I've been trying to tell some people

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Speaker 2: who haven't got a chance to see him as we have,

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Speaker 2: because we've been up close and personal during the spring

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Speaker 2: and early summer sessions on the sidelines that when you

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Speaker 2: look at him and his toolbox and his skill set

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Speaker 2: in person, he's even quicker than he looks on tape.

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Speaker 2: And I see the athleticism of a Jesse Armstad. I know,

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Speaker 2: you guys aren't that old. You remember Jesse Armstead, And

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Speaker 2: I see the physical frame of Pepper Johnson. So think

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Speaker 2: about that, the strength, the frame, the sturdiness of an

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Speaker 2: have the quickness of a Jesse Armstead. This guy is unique.

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Speaker 2: He is special, and you're right. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: I want to see the power quot shit, because that's

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Speaker 1: one thing you don't get in the spring. There are

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Speaker 1: We saw him do it at times in college, but

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Speaker 2: They don't quite have the size or the girth or

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you are going to take your

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Speaker 1: calls early and often tonight for the next two hours

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Speaker 1: are going until nine o'clock. And we thank Lugie for

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Speaker 1: the good roll in here talking some Giants football. So

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Speaker 1: get on the line, give it call eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: oh eight one zero one nine eighty eight eight oh

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Speaker 1: eight one zero one nine and Paul, the Giants are

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Speaker 1: counting to be better in the trenches this year. We

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Speaker 1: get to that. You have a bunch of added players

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Speaker 1: on defense. You mentioned Abdell Carter, but also with Roy

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Speaker 1: during training camp, you have to block Brian Burns's cavon

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Speaker 1: this fifth year option picked up, that trench stuff is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. Well, I really believe.

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Speaker 2: That after the first round draft picks, obviously Carter and

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Speaker 2: Dart that to me is the second most important storyline

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Speaker 2: the Giants trench play, and it's both sides of the

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Speaker 2: Because let's face it, no matter what you do with

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Speaker 1: What it needs to do, that's not gonna mean to

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Speaker 1: Hillo beans and Russell Wilson's a differ quarterback when he

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Speaker 1: the linebackers like Bobby Okarake are gonna have guys in

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Speaker 2: They won't be free to roam, they won't be free

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Speaker 1: And we're all excited for how good the pass rush

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, And I'm gonna take this two different ways.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have a brand new quarterback room, Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, Jackson Dart. So I want to see what

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart looks like as the speed and competition increases,

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Speaker 1: whether that scrimmages preseason games. We've already seen him throwing

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Speaker 1: want to see how we handles all that as he

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Speaker 1: how Brian Dable has adjusted his offense with Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: a lot of goballs, which is not as surprise of

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Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson does best. I thought we saw a

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think Brian Dable during the course

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Speaker 2: of the offseason probably went through his old offensive films

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Speaker 2: from last year and said, look, obviously we pulled a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff in. I mean, the giant quarterback room

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Speaker 2: was really kind of ragged last year. I think we

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Speaker 2: the off season, he's given those guys as much of

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Speaker 2: he have to start peeling back some sections because oh,

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Speaker 2: we can't block that. We've got to overcome a deficiency.

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Speaker 2: I need to make tweaks.

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Speaker 1: And then finally we talked about the scheme on offense,

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Speaker 1: we go to the scheme on defense. How much just

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Speaker 1: Shane Bowen adjust what he plans to do based on

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Speaker 1: the new personnel he has in the building. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about the first round picks. Well, the Giants

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Speaker 1: have all had a new personnel on defense too. We

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Speaker 1: Shane Bowen to go to a little bit more press

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Speaker 1: Everything in preseason is vanilla. So I don't expect this

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Speaker 2: They add the big play safety. We obviously know that

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Speaker 3: To do it.

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Speaker 1: First off, how's do we have done this offseason, those

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Speaker 1: Well, Giant fans what their most concern with? You think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to be a captain again this year.

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Speaker 2: eye on neighbors. I don't think it's serious. You got

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Speaker 2: to look at John Runyan with his shoulder. You know,

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Speaker 2: he went out for a few drills every once in

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Speaker 2: a while, but he didn't do a whole lot either

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Speaker 2: during the.

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Speaker 1: He did more late, but not a ton, right.

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Speaker 2: So that's a guy you just got to make sure

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Speaker 2: you got one eye on him. And then obviously Dexter

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Speaker 2: Lawrence had the dislocated elbow last year, and you know

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Speaker 2: he would go out to the early offseason practices, he

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Speaker 2: would do a bunch of drills and then they kind

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Speaker 2: of shut him down and pull back, usually in the

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Speaker 2: second half of the drills every single day, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be fine. Brian Dabel doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: worried about any of these guys, but we want to

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on him.

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Speaker 1: Bobby o'cakay with the back last year, he says he's good,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't do a ton in the spring. That's

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Speaker 1: someone to watch, but I think he'll be okay.

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Speaker 2: But did work. He did do all the drills correct.

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Speaker 1: He did. And then two of the rookies, Camp Scatabow

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Speaker 1: and Darius Alexander did not do a ton during the

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Speaker 1: spring nose keep an eye on them too.

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Speaker 2: I got the impression that those guys who did a

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Speaker 2: lot of work with the running on the trainers on

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Speaker 2: the side, it must have been a soft tissue which

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Speaker 2: he were not worried.

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Speaker 1: About, more of a preventative thing and something that That's

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Speaker 1: how it looked like. I would tend to agree with that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, That Andrew Thomas interview was brought to

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Speaker 1: zero one nine eight eight eighth eight one zero one

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Speaker 1: nine right here on the Giants Training Camp Preview Special

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Speaker 1: oh eight, one zero one nine. Getting ready for Giants

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Speaker 1: training camp, which kicks off next week. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: go check it out. All the information can be found

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Speaker 1: on giants dot com. All right, let's get to the calls.

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Speaker 1: I told you would take them. They're on the line.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to them. At eight eight eight eight oh eight,

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Speaker 1: one zero one nine. Lead things off with Jeff in Connecticut. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: what's going on dude?

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Speaker 6: Afternoon guys, and hope you enjoy your time off.

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Speaker 1: Because it is over, my friend. But yes we did.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, good to hear it.

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Speaker 6: I watched BBKO all the time, so you know, I

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Speaker 6: appreciate that you're welcome. And what I was just curious

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Speaker 6: about was that I didn't hear anything and maybe I

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Speaker 6: missed thing. I mean, I don't watch everything all the time.

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Speaker 6: Is is JMS snapping style?

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Speaker 7: Would that be?

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Speaker 6: If you think that could be a problem for maybe

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Speaker 6: Russell Wilson, who was expecting something a little hotter coming

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Speaker 6: out as opposed to you know, the other guys might

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Speaker 6: not be so much. But I was wondering about him

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Speaker 6: in particular. But the other two guys as well.

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Speaker 1: You know his shotgunner under center. His shotgun are under center.

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Speaker 6: You're talking about the shotgun, correct.

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Speaker 1: I did not notice anything different in camp. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe Russell Wilson had one mishandled snap throughout

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Speaker 1: the spring that I called see any So I do

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Speaker 1: not think, Jeff, that's going to be an issue.

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Speaker 2: No, and quite honestly, I didn't see any trouble with

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Speaker 2: either Jameis Winston's or darts when he was in there

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Speaker 2: with the first unit. Now, occasionally, when the other setters

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Speaker 2: were in there, there were a couple of misplays, but

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Speaker 2: not when JMS was in there.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, I was thinking more of it, you know

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Speaker 6: what the time being everything is that like his dead

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Speaker 6: bull snap style was, I thought it would get back

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Speaker 6: a pick slower, and I thought that like Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 6: who's been around so long, might have a problem with

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Speaker 6: that in particularly. You know, but it is not great.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's put it this way. The way that works

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Speaker 2: is that the center and JMS told us this when

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Speaker 2: he came in as a rookie. I can do both ways.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is not a problem. I can do

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Speaker 2: this or I can do that whatever they want, and

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Speaker 2: when Daniel Jones was here, it was okay, what does

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Speaker 2: Daniel want him to do? So I'm sure when Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson got here, and we know he's been very vocal

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Speaker 2: in reaching out to his teammates from the second he

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Speaker 2: signed with the Giants, he has made it a point

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Speaker 2: to just call everybody this This guy is like running

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Speaker 2: for mayor of the Giants, training comp players all over

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Speaker 2: the place. I guarantee you one of his first calls

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Speaker 2: was to JMS and they discussed what kind of snaps

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Speaker 2: do you want? So I don't think that's an issue

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: And again, I think if Russell Wilson gets an accurate

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Speaker 1: snap that's consistent, I think that Jeff to him is

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Speaker 1: going to be more important than having you know, a

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Speaker 1: couple tenths of a second of velocity off.

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Speaker 6: Sure, Oh well, thank you very much, guys.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate the call Jeff. Good stuff. Look, John

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Speaker 1: Michael Schmidtz is snapping aside. We always talk about how

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Speaker 1: teams are going to improve you to year, and people

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Speaker 1: like to talk about, all right, the guys you jetted

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Speaker 1: in the first round, the guys you spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of money on in free agency, and yes that's important.

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Speaker 1: The d Javon Hollenen, Paulson Adebo and Chauncey Golstan and

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Speaker 1: Abdul Carter to play well this year, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: But I think a stealthy thing that often contributes more

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Speaker 1: than new arrivals is the internal improvement of the players

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Speaker 1: already on the team. And those are guys that are

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Speaker 1: on the rook contracts and were picked in the first

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Speaker 1: three rounds. The Giants have a few of those guys

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Speaker 1: this year that fans should be keeping an eye on.

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Speaker 1: John Michael Schmidz is certainly one of them. Their second

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Speaker 1: round pick heading into your three needs to have a

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Speaker 1: big year. Look at Deontay Banks, first round pick heading

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Speaker 1: into year three. He needs to step up and have

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Speaker 1: a better year than you had in your number two.

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Speaker 1: So just two of the guys, and you can look

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Speaker 1: at the rest of the guys in rookie contracts. There

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Speaker 1: are more of them that you need to get more

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Speaker 1: out of. You can go back to Evan Neil's draft class.

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Speaker 1: However you want to look at it. You need more

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Speaker 1: out of these guys more consistently if you want this

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Speaker 1: team to take the jump. Giant fans want them to take.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's no question John, and specifically with John Michael Schmidz,

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Speaker 2: his power quot shit is not where it needs to be.

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Speaker 2: He knows that when he came in he was considered

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Speaker 2: an undersized center, just like Barnotes was years ago, just

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Speaker 2: like Sean o'hoarroll.

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Speaker 1: Was, and most centers coming on now undersize, by the way,

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Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. Tyler Lindabaum, who's a

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Speaker 1: pro bowler, is undersized for the ratings.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't see many gigantic centers. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Frederick with Dallas was certainly one of those bigger type centers.

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Speaker 2: They're just not plentiful. When they come out of school.

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Speaker 2: Most of the bigger sized guys want to be guards. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, they don't want to be centers because the

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Speaker 2: centers get beaten up a whole heck of a lot

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Speaker 2: because they're busy snapping the ball.

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Speaker 1: Also, look at the contracts for the best guards and

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Speaker 1: compare them to the contracts to the best centers. Tray

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Speaker 1: smtch just got I wrote down the contract. It was

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Speaker 1: the largest guard contract in NFL history, four years, ninety

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Speaker 1: four million, seventy million, guarantees.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a lot of lettuce.

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Speaker 1: There is no center getting that money.

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Speaker 2: No, so you understand why there's a darth of oversized centers.

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Speaker 2: There's more undersized guys. So when you are one of

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Speaker 2: those guys, you need to rely on your smarts, You

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Speaker 2: need to rely on your hustle, you need to rely

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Speaker 2: on your technique, and darn it, you better have a

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Speaker 2: really high power quotion for your frame. That's the way

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Speaker 2: you're going to be able to compete. And JMS needs

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Speaker 2: to continue to get stronger. I don't know what his

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Speaker 2: power numbers are in the weight room with the weight

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Speaker 2: and conditioning oaks right now as we speak.

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Speaker 1: Then I'll let you in there.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't chill, and I mean not a mission.

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Speaker 2: It would be dangerous for me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that would not go well for you.

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Speaker 2: I just hope that his numbers are improving, because that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a big key for him.

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Speaker 1: Other guys will bring up can Tyler nub and Andrew

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Speaker 1: Phillips take another step? Can thel Johnson take another step?

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Speaker 1: Heading into his second year? That was the next day

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Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up, especially guys handed into the

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Speaker 1: thirty years. That's where you got a lot of the

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Speaker 1: big jumps, and he looked great in the spring. But Kenny,

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Speaker 1: now carry that over when the Pats come on, got

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Speaker 1: to show up up to one hundred and ninety pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's getting to twenty pounds. He looks like just as fast.

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Speaker 1: He is not bad weight. It's a good weight. He's

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Speaker 1: he's clocked. I've asked about the GPS. It is what

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Speaker 1: it was before, so he has not slowed down. We'll

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Speaker 1: see if that can translate at all. It eate itaate

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Speaker 1: one zero one nine eight. It'll eate one zero one nine.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Tony in Middletown, Delaware. He's up next, Tony.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, hey, guys, great to hear your voices. I'm very

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Speaker 8: excited and when I hear your voices associated with Giants football,

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Speaker 8: so thank you.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I'm not happy you called it in then, and

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Speaker 1: Giants football is coming fast and fury as dude. We're

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Speaker 1: excited you cover the camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah good, good say hi.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay cool cool.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So I just want to say, hey, uh we we

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Speaker 8: gotta have a competent backup at left tackle because I

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Speaker 8: mean Angel Thomas. Yeah, he's great, but he's injury prone.

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Speaker 8: We can't throw out a guy like a Zudo out

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Speaker 8: there ever.

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Speaker 2: Again, well, you know, one of the first things that

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Speaker 2: Joe Shane, the general manager did, when this offseason, you know,

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Speaker 2: became a fact instead of just something that we're looking

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Speaker 2: down the road for was he signed James Hudson, a

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Speaker 2: swing tackle from the Cleveland Browns who's been in this

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Speaker 2: league for a few years, has had a number of starts. Look,

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Speaker 2: he is a swing tackle, make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 2: He is not a full time starting tackle. That's not

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Speaker 2: what he is. He is signed as a swing guy,

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Speaker 2: as a as someone who if you get into trouble,

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Speaker 2: you can put him in there for a few weeks

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Speaker 2: and he can hold the fort. That's what you do

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Speaker 2: when you sign. That's what you do when you sign

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Speaker 2: a swing tackle, so that you don't have to take

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Speaker 2: the Joshua Azudu in an emergency and say, break glass, kid,

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Speaker 2: you got to go out there and play. That's tough.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they also brought in Star forsythe

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Speaker 1: who is a who started a lot bunch of games

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Speaker 1: at both tackle spots for the Seahawks over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. So they certainly have guys with more

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Speaker 1: experience at those spots than they had in previous seasons.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. Hopefully they we don't see him,

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Speaker 1: but if we see him, yeah, you hope it goes

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Speaker 1: better than what halliwent last year.

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Speaker 8: And and one more thing, Hey, you know this guy,

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Speaker 8: Tave Banks. I mean, he's looking like a bus.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say no, no, no, don't go there. It's

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Speaker 2: his third year. I know you probably don't go back

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Speaker 2: as far as I do, but I've talked to people

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Speaker 2: on BBK all the time, and I've talked to you about

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Speaker 2: Corey Webster, same situation. I see a very very similar

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Speaker 2: pattern going with his career. And if you want to

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Speaker 2: go back further, Mark Haynes was another Giants corner who

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Speaker 2: came in early. He wasn't being asked to play the

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Speaker 2: pressman coverage that he excelled at in school didn't go

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Speaker 2: well early and they decided to let him play what

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Speaker 2: he played and he became a pro Bowl player. So

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm giving you two examples who I believe

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Speaker 2: set a really good precedent for Dante Banks, and I

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Speaker 2: hope it works out for it.

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Speaker 8: I think it's though I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 8: the mental ability, though I don't think it's there.

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Speaker 1: Look, Tony, a lot of it is mental and appreciate

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Speaker 1: the call he has to lock in and focus every

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Speaker 1: game and every not even every game, every play. There

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Speaker 1: are too many plays where concentration wasn't what you needed

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Speaker 1: it to be. And the frustrating thing about Banks, it's

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Speaker 1: not like guys are just running away from him. Guys

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Speaker 1: aren't getting three and four yards separation. He's close to guys.

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Speaker 1: He's just struggled getting his head around to make plays

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Speaker 1: on the ball, not committing defensive pass interference penalties and

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Speaker 1: doing those types of things. So to your point, Tony,

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Speaker 1: if he can get the focus locked in, and I

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Speaker 1: have had a chance to talk to Manuel Marcon, who's the

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Speaker 1: Giants to do defensive backs and Secondari's coach, and Jeff Burst,

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Speaker 1: their cornerbacks coach. They've been happy with his attention to

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Speaker 1: detail in the spring. You hope that carries over and

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Speaker 1: it carries over to when it counts on the field.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see. Oh he can go

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Speaker 1: on base on other people tell us that's all we

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Speaker 1: know for now, But can he figure out the stuff

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Speaker 1: at the catch point. And if he can figure that out,

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Speaker 1: he has all the physical tools and he's even shown

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Speaker 1: the physical tools in the pros to be a good

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Speaker 1: player at the position. But you're right, the focus element

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Speaker 1: of it be ready every play off every game and

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Speaker 1: just playing it better at the catch point. Those are

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Speaker 1: the two things he needs to do to get better

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Speaker 1: at He has.

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Speaker 2: To be more aggressive to make adjustments to his game

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Speaker 2: because you know, he looks at himself and says, look,

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Speaker 2: I know what I can do great because I did

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Speaker 2: it at Maryland. That's what made me a number one pick. Well,

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Speaker 2: he got to this level and they've asked him to

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Speaker 2: do some different things that maybe he wasn't used to

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Speaker 2: or wasn't very good at. Well. Now, as a paid

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Speaker 2: NFL player, it's his responsibility John to work on those

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Speaker 2: things and to make sure that he can do the

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Speaker 2: things that the team wants to pay him for, even

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Speaker 2: if it's out of his wheelhouse. He has to aggressively

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Speaker 2: work on them, and I think that was something that

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Speaker 2: might have been missing a little bit last year.

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's go to Richie and Queen's He's up

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Speaker 1: next on Giants Training Camp Preview special. What's up Erchie.

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Speaker 5: Hey, John's man, Paul, it's good to hear your voices. Richie.

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Speaker 2: How are you man?

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Speaker 10: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I'm good. Just booked a game against the Chargees. I

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Speaker 5: go to one game of the year. You know, John,

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Speaker 5: we've spoke many times. I come off to his negative

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Speaker 5: nil at Nelly sometimes and you brought up some good points.

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Speaker 5: You know. I'm looking at the top left guards, left

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Speaker 5: tackles in the league and they've got Tunsel up there,

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Speaker 5: and they've got Williams up there, and they got Thomas

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Speaker 5: Neander Bottom. Why because he hasn't played. And you're right, John,

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Speaker 5: we don't want to see backups. You know, we're in

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Speaker 5: the division now where and Paul, the enthusiasm goes so far.

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Speaker 5: It's got to be talent. You know. Their front four

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Speaker 5: looks formidable if they can put the pressure. If Carter

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Speaker 5: is the real deal, divide steps up because again our secondary.

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Speaker 5: You can say what you want about Banks until he

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Speaker 5: proves it. He's not a top defensive corners. The only

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Speaker 5: one I really love back there is Newban But they've

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Speaker 5: got they do have talent, but they can't afford not

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Speaker 5: to have Thomas. You know, when you think of Thomas.

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Speaker 5: You think of a point guard in the NBA, your

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Speaker 5: best hitter. Yeah, obviously you think of a quarterback and

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Speaker 5: next as you left tackle, and he's got to be healthy.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, I see positive. And you mentioned the offense.

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Speaker 5: I think Hyatt might be better neighbors Johnson maybe steps up.

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Speaker 5: Scoota Boot could be a good backup. But everything has

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Speaker 5: to go well for them because of the division they're in.

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Speaker 5: So and you know what, Vegas Stools has them three

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Speaker 5: and a half and sometimes they I hate to say it,

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Speaker 5: but they're right most of the time. You know, I

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Speaker 5: want to see progress, guys.

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Speaker 1: No, well, Ritchie, you're right. And look, the Giants division

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Speaker 1: is very tough. It's very tough. They have the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champions in the Philadelphia Eagles. So you can easily

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Speaker 1: make the argument as a most talented team top to

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Speaker 1: bottom roster wise in the league. I think that is

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Speaker 1: an easy argument to make. I wouldn't argue with somebody

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Speaker 1: that made that claim to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, question before you let me go, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No problem, take you're you're fine. The Commanders came out.

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Speaker 1: I think they probably overperformed their talent a little bit

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Speaker 1: last year. But when you have a quarterback play like

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels did. Guess what that's gonna happen sometimes. And

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Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, if he's healthy the whole year, I

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Speaker 1: would expec Dallas to be a little bit better than

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Speaker 1: last year just because they'll have their starting quarterback for

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Speaker 1: most of the season. So you're right, Richie, with that

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Speaker 1: type of talent in your division, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to come heat with that group. If you

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Speaker 1: lose multiple starters that are your best players at great positions,

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be very, very difficult, and especially on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, because you know, Richie and Polways makes

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Speaker 1: this point. The offensive line affects everything. That's why that

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Speaker 1: always needs to be something that needs to be good.

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Speaker 1: If your offensive line is bad, you can't run it.

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Speaker 1: If your offensive line is bad, you can't protect your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he can't throw it. And then guess what, your offense

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Speaker 1: is non functional. And we've seen too many times here

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Speaker 1: with the Giants over the past ten years where the

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Speaker 1: offensive line is played to a level where the offense,

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Speaker 1: no matter who was on the field, was non functional.

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Speaker 1: So they have the players to be functional this year,

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Speaker 1: but you're right, they have to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: May I add one and to you, I really want

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Speaker 2: to add one more thing, and I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 2: go right back to what you were going to say.

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Speaker 2: I understand your skepticism and you kind of want to

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Speaker 2: push off some of the optimism and some of the

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Speaker 2: excitement aside. And that's fair because you don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear about projections. You want to know about production, of course,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's fair. But right now, because we've

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Speaker 2: only gone through the spring in the early summer, John

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Speaker 2: and I can tell you everything we've seen during the

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Speaker 2: offseason program, and all we can give you are projections

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Speaker 2: because there is no production.

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Speaker 1: Great by the way, and those productions don't mean a

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Speaker 1: whole lot, to be totally honest with you, but that's

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Speaker 1: all we have. All we got, Richard, finish.

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Speaker 5: Up, okay, And the question I got, yes, And again

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Speaker 5: I agree with that. You can't go because you're not

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Speaker 5: playing yet. David and Shane are obviously on a hot seat, John,

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Speaker 5: do you see them fighting for a playoffs spot?

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Speaker 2: I see the Giants being competitive in December when they

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00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: are still in the conversation and games, and you'll be

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Speaker 2: watching the scoreboard again. That's what I see being in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs right down to the final game. That's no.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that. I don't even know who the

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Speaker 2: fifty three are yet, but I do think the Giants

802
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: will be competitive into December and games will still matter.

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Speaker 2: You'll still be itching it and looking at the scoreboard saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: if they lose and the Giants win, hey they could

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Speaker 2: still do this and that. I think they'll still be

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Speaker 2: alive in December. I believe that, thank you much.

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to see the Charges game three, so

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Speaker 5: I know they'll still be alive.

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Speaker 1: Tough, dude, I appreciate it, man. And look, the difficult

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Speaker 1: part of this season is to Richie's point, the division

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Speaker 1: is excellent. It is, and the schedule, according to last

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Speaker 1: year's winning percentages of their opponents, is the toughest in football.

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Speaker 1: It's very, very difficult for the folks that haven't only

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Speaker 1: locked in the football yet. This is how the Giants

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Speaker 1: start their year at the Commanders at Dallas home versus

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs home versus the Chargers. It's a very difficult.

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Speaker 1: For first four games. Three of those teams or playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys have been a team the Giants

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Speaker 1: frankly have not beat much when Dak Prescott as they

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Speaker 1: frankly have not beaten them when that Dak Prescott has

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Speaker 1: been healthy over the past eight years. Then after that

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Speaker 1: you get at Saints all right, Saints Mike struggle this year,

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Tyler Struck starting all that stuff. Then you

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Speaker 1: have to go home versus Philly, at Denver, at Philly

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Speaker 1: home versus the forty nine. So it's very, very difficult.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants could play much much better, but it

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Speaker 1: might not get reflected in the record just because their

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Speaker 1: opponents are so good.

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Speaker 2: Ten games against teams that were in the playoffs last year,

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Speaker 2: which is tied for the third most of those types

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Speaker 2: of games in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: By the way I mentioned it, If you guys want

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Speaker 1: to head out to training camp this year and see

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about, go to Giants dot com Slash

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Speaker 1: Everyone on that team puts together a great experience, great

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Speaker 1: stuff for kids. Autographs, for the kids there. You can

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Speaker 1: line up for the alumni for everybody for autographs, but

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Training Camp. A lot of great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Go check that out. We'll be back with more of

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Speaker 1: Schmunk pulled Atino with you until nine o'clock when Keith

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Speaker 1: York City eight oh eight one zero one nine eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine. That's

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Speaker 1: the call. Let's go to Moose all the way in Jamaica. Moose,

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 8: What's going on?

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Speaker 10: Selling as a big fan of you guys, listening to

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Speaker 10: you out there every launce for the past couple of seasons.

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Speaker 2: But I appreciate that man, Thank you. Now? Is that Jamaica.

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Speaker 11: Queens, Please Jamaica Queens. If I had the money to

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Speaker 11: live out in Kings, I was check out. If you

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Speaker 11: watching the Giants every Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you got?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

866
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Speaker 9: Yeah?

867
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Speaker 10: Projections for the season, my overall view of the draft,

868
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 10: which was positive, even though I did want your door

869
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 10: maybe later in the round. But I'm over that. I'm

870
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 10: because my whole thing is I believe in dables, whether

871
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 10: it be the first season or just him sticking to

872
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Speaker 10: whatever determinative motivating and no nonsense, sort of like, I'm

873
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 10: not going to play into the New York media and

874
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 10: have them touch me grumble. I'm gonna stick to my

875
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 10: guns and his overall talent evaluation and understanding. So I'll

876
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Speaker 10: rock with Jackson dark even more so projections of the season.

877
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 10: Like Richie said, if Andrew Trumps gives us.

878
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Speaker 1: Call, man, I don't know what happens to your line there, Bro,

879
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: that went haywire very quickly. Sorry, we had to cut

880
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: you off. But to Moose's point, and I found this

881
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: striking as you guys, if you follow our content Johns

882
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: Little Podcast, we do a lot of draft stuff, right,

883
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: so I bring a lot of people around the league.

884
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Former scouts figure out what the Giant's gonna with the draft.

885
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: And all these guys I talked to, Todd Bigshah was

886
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: one of them, Daniel Jeremiah was another. All these guys

887
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: that had been in and around the league all have

888
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: so much respect for the job Brian Dable does as

889
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: a guy that puts an offense together. I had a

890
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: chance to talk to Jamis wins it again. That's gonna

891
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: find on the Quarterbacks Interview episode of the Johnsttle Podcast.

892
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: We just put out interviews of all the different position

893
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: groups quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers. We just got to

894
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Speaker 1: the edge group. Go check it out. Giants dot Com,

895
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Speaker 1: Slash podcast, podcast platforms, Johns Tottle podcast, check it out.

896
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: And they always say what you like about Brian dables

897
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: offense that it is very complicated, first of all, and

898
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: very difficult to learn, but it's that way in a

899
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: good way because it gives you so much optionality that

900
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: his offense always gives you an answer to what the

901
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: defense shows you. So it gives the quarterbacks some level

902
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: of freedom. And look, I understand where fans are coming from.

903
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: You look at the amount of points the Giants have

904
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: scored over the last two seasons, it's been ugly, has

905
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: not been good enough. The offense has been pretty much

906
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: the worst in the league. The last couple of years.

907
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: It has not been good. We understand that. Just look

908
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: at the point scored, they're in the rankings. You can

909
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: look at it. But I think the goal here and

910
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: bringing a guy like Russell Wilson is that you're raising

911
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: the floor of the offense a lot more. And I

912
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: still have a lot of confidence in what Brian Dable

913
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: can do as a play call on a guy that

914
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: builds an offense. And I also do believe in their

915
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: way of evaluating quarterbacks, and Joe Shane has talked about

916
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: this a lot, so is Brian Dable. They have a

917
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: very particular way in which they put these quarterbacks through

918
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: the ringer to weed out the guys that they don't

919
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: think can make it, and they can figure out the

920
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: guys that they believe in when all's said and done,

921
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: and that's how they found their way to Jackson Dart.

922
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: So I believe in those two things. We'll see if

923
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: it were this year, you hope it does with a

924
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: new quarterback room. Well off to wait and say.

925
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's very interesting when you talk

926
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: to all the national pundits all the time who are

927
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: on television or Ronval radio, or even in the magazines

928
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: or in print, and you know they'll take their shots

929
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: at the Giants. But then when we get the national

930
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: TV crews that come in for the games, John, and folks,

931
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: for those of you who don't understand how this works.

932
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: If the Giants have a home game on Sunday, usually

933
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: the national TV crews will come in on Friday. They'll

934
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: want to watch practice, They'll want to talk to the coaches,

935
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: the coordinators, they'll talk to a handful of the star

936
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: players because they're trying to prep for the game. Well,

937
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: when we talk to these guys on a regular basis,

938
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: and John, you have a lot of these guys guesting

939
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: on a huddle during the course of the season, all

940
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: of these people, to a man will tell you about

941
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: how much respect they have and how much respect they

942
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: have heard from others around the league. For this coaching

943
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: staff not just brought Dable, but for the staff and

944
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: for the front office and for the scouts, there is

945
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of admiration for what they do. Now

946
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: I get the fact that the results have not been

947
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: what everybody wants. It's not what Brian Dab wants. But

948
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: that does not attract the fact that people who know

949
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: this NFL because they live it, they breathe it, they

950
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: work in it. They look at him from afar and

951
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: they tip their cap to him. Which, again it's a

952
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: little bit of a different group of people than what

953
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: John was talking about in a moment ago. But these

954
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: are people who swim with the fishes around the league.

955
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: They know as much as anybody does about the perception

956
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: of people.

957
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

958
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, one hundred percent. And by the way, folks, bring

959
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: your fans, family and neighbors out to walk or run

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961
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963
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. Eight eight eight eight

964
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: oh eight one zero one nine. Let's say what's up

965
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: to Devo and Brooklyn Divo? What's up, Devo?

966
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: You're there?

967
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: Oh, he's gone, Devo drop. Let's go now to Andrew.

968
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: He's up next, Andrew. What's going on?

969
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 9: Hello Andrew?

970
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: What's going on?

971
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 9: Hell?

972
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: How are you.

973
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 9: This is and Andrew.

974
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: This is Mark from Newark.

975
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mark, go ahead, what do you have for us?

976
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm a sixty two year old Jets fan, and

977
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 9: like all of us you know, in the Tri State area,

978
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 9: we watch both teams no matter how people don't want

979
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 9: to admit it, like the Mets and the Yankees, same thing.

980
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: Of course.

981
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 9: Here's what I got though. What I notice is that

982
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 9: every Sunday when I after the Jets winner lose, mostly lose,

983
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 9: and watch the Giants game, the two guys on the

984
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 9: team jump off the screen, one of them. I'm not

985
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 9: going to talk about this, Tracy love him wow, But

986
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 9: but Banks, you know, like every time I watch him,

987
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 9: he looks like the best player on your defense. Except

988
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 9: one caveat. He's aggressive. I mean, he's like everything you

989
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 9: want in a football player. I'd love to play football

990
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 9: with him, but he makes he takes too many young

991
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 9: shots at people on their way out of bounds or

992
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 9: it's like he gotta cut out the dirty If he

993
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 9: cuts out the dirty stuff, and this is directed to him.

994
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 9: If he's listening, you got a chance to be a

995
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 9: star just this period. This dude is great except for

996
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 9: that but yes, I do. Yes, the only Banks on

997
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 9: your team now Carl's gone, But you know, yeah.

998
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: To be fair, I've never heard wowbody Pine.

999
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 9: But when you watch him, do you see well, I'm

1000
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 9: calling him a dirty player. I'm saying that he those

1001
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 9: out of bounds plays, he takes that extra here and

1002
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 9: if he just didn't do.

1003
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 12: That, wow you're talking about if you're talking about too

1004
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 12: much contact when the balls in the air with some

1005
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 12: defensive passing like that, it's.

1006
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 9: Those it's those out of bounds plays. He did it

1007
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 9: against the Commanders. He did it every time. When I

1008
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 9: see him, I take to myself, all right, can't do

1009
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 9: your thing like as if he was my nephew or son,

1010
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 9: except stop doing those things because that's the only thing

1011
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 9: holding him back from being a Pro Bowl corner. I

1012
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 9: love that kid, and I'm not a Giants fan at all.

1013
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: What do you like about Tyrone Tracy? You mentioned you

1014
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: like watching them play?

1015
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 9: Oh man, Now, Tracy? When when when the Giants incidently

1016
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 9: lost Squan, you know, I kind of laughed and I said,

1017
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 9: well let me see what this kid Tracy can do.

1018
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 9: And the game was on. I forget who they were playing,

1019
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 9: but it was his first really my first time seeing him,

1020
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 9: and he has he has a burst like he has

1021
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 9: a burst and and that you're not getting me down

1022
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 9: on the first hit thing with him. And he got

1023
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 9: a jingle, you know, that's what I see. He got

1024
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 9: a burst, the jingle and you're not getting me down

1025
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 9: on the first tackle. And and actually Saquon has that too.

1026
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 9: So that's what I've seen from in how many yards

1027
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 9: did you get last year?

1028
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: Almost nine hundred?

1029
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he a thousand yards in scrimmage, which which was.

1030
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 7: Actually shows yeah the whole scene.

1031
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: No, he wasn't and and more appreciate the call. And

1032
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: I think what gets me excited about Tracy You go back,

1033
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: remember he was a wide receiver at Iowa before he

1034
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: turned into a running back. In training camp, pall, we

1035
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: saw a lot of passage to the running back, and

1036
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: I just dumped down. We saw vertical stuff to the

1037
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: running backs down the field. I think we're gonna see

1038
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: a lot more of that from Tracy.

1039
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: I would numb enough surprised.

1040
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: In twenty and twenty five. All right, let's take a

1041
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: time out. We have one more hour to go. We'll

1042
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: take you to nine o'clock. We Keith McPherson takes over.

1043
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,680
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1047
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1049
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Speaker 14: the highest paid corner in the league. Jets dip into

1057
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Speaker 14: their purses once again, reportably giving a Gardener a four

1058
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Speaker 14: year extension one hundred and twenty point four million eighty

1059
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 14: five point six million guaranteed money. He's now under contract

1060
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 14: for six seasons. Couple this with the Garrett Wilson deal,

1061
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 14: the Jets handing out over two hundred and fifty million

1062
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 14: dollars in the last two days. All Star Game in Atlanta,

1063
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 14: just about to get started, Aaron Judge getting the start

1064
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 14: in right, of course, he's batting third, Francisco Lindor plays short.

1065
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Speaker 4: He beats eighth and.

1066
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 14: Trek Scoble against Paul's schemes. Becomes the first pitcher in

1067
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 14: baseball history to start the All Star Game in his

1068
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 14: first two seasons of his career. And Scottie Sheffer getting

1069
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Speaker 14: ready for the Open Championship beginning Thursday, looking to make

1070
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 14: at four major victories. You also let it be known

1071
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 14: this isn't anywhere nearest this filling as you would think.

1072
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Speaker 15: Why do I want to win this tournament so bad?

1073
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 15: That's something that I wrestle with on a daily basis.

1074
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: It's like show up with.

1075
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 4: The Masters every year.

1076
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 15: It's like, why do I want to win this golf

1077
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 15: tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the

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Speaker 1: we talked about the biggest storylines of camp and our

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Speaker 1: number one. Now let's take a look at some of

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Speaker 1: give me your biggest competitions that you're keeping an eye

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Speaker 2: Well, I think if you asked one hundred people, probably

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Speaker 2: at least ninety eight of them would say, evan Neil

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Speaker 2: against the entire field at guard whoever it is that's

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Speaker 2: going to fight him like a pit bull. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, this competition is gonna be tough, and it's a.

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Speaker 1: Different type of competition because it's not like Evanil has

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Speaker 1: a job and somebody's trying to take Evanil has to

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Speaker 1: play well enough to take the job from Road.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 1: I know they have confidence. They have confidence in Van

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Speaker 1: Room to be a good starter, so he has to

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Speaker 1: be extraordinary in order to take that spot.

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Speaker 2: Greg Van Roten played every offensive snop last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the only guy on the team who did so. Greg

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Speaker 2: Van Roten is certainly a guy who they believe can

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Speaker 2: get the job done if they need to go there.

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Speaker 2: But I think if they can fight I didn upgrade,

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Speaker 2: they'd like to try to do it. And let's not

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Speaker 2: kid ourselves. Evan Neil is a former number one pick,

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Speaker 2: a guy who was really highly thought of when he

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Speaker 2: came out out of school, and they want to try

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Speaker 2: to get value out of him. And if he can

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Speaker 2: max out his value at guard, that's.

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Speaker 1: Good and I think the organization believes he can do

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Speaker 1: it talking to people in the building. Just his size

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Speaker 1: and length at guard, he doesn't have to deal with

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Speaker 1: all the movement and covering as much space as he

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Speaker 1: does against some of the more athletic defensive ends and

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Speaker 1: edge players. I think it can work.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big one. I go to the

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Speaker 1: cornerback battle. We've talked a lot about Deontay Banks here.

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Speaker 1: Over the first hour of this program, him and Cortell

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Speaker 1: Flatt have been splitting reps and Brian Dable when who

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Speaker 1: was asked a bat it would not commit to either

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Speaker 1: guy as a staughter. It's gonna be a competition, so

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Speaker 1: can Deontay Banks. I think if the Giants had their druthers,

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Speaker 1: Banks would win that job. But it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: given to him either, so he's gonna have to play

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Speaker 1: well enough to take it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I believe that they're prodding him more than making it

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Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty competition. I think he has a

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Speaker 2: foot and a half in the lead coming down the

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Speaker 2: home stretch, and if he fumbles it away, which they

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Speaker 2: are not guarantee him anything, I agree with you, John,

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Speaker 2: he's not guaranteed anything. He could fumble it away, Cordell

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Speaker 2: Flott would have the chance to leap him. But I

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Speaker 2: do believe that if Banks does what they expect him

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Speaker 2: to do, he'll be comfortably the starter on that side

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Speaker 2: of the field. I do want to just give Michael

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Speaker 2: or Mark, was it a little information the less? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Right before the break, he called up and he thought

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Speaker 2: that that Tate Banks was a little too aggressive hitting

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Speaker 2: guys out of bounds. I thought he used the word dirty.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell he won he did it, but it was implied. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here's what I'm gonna tell you. Last season, I want

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Speaker 2: to I just looked it up. During the break, Tate

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Speaker 2: Banks got called for six penalties forward defensive pass interference,

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Speaker 2: one was illegal contact, and one was off sides. That's it.

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Speaker 2: None of those penalties are personal fouls. So let's just

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Speaker 2: put that one to rest. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: if you thought you saw something or you're looking at

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Speaker 2: a different player, but Banks does not fit the description

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Speaker 2: that you used.

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Speaker 1: And then the other combinition out through out there is

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle next to Dexter Lawrence. Is that going

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Speaker 1: to be Roy Robertson Harris? That would be the guy

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Speaker 1: I think would win that job if I had to predict.

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Speaker 1: But I look, Nacho's been here a long time. If

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Speaker 1: he starts next to Dexter, that would not surprise me

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Speaker 1: at all. He's a good, solid player. Does Darius Alexander

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Speaker 1: step up? Does somebody else sees that defensive tackle spot

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Speaker 1: next to dext That'd be something else I keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on.

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Speaker 2: And that's my other spot, John I wrote it down

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Speaker 2: as well on my notes. I think that Darius Alexander

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Speaker 2: is one dynamite prospect. I've heard too many people talk

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Speaker 2: about him in the style of Leonard Williams. Now, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to compare him to Leonard Williams.

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Speaker 1: No, let's please beause.

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Speaker 2: Leonard Williams is a top five pag, so let's not

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Speaker 2: do that. But in terms of the style, that's exactly

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Speaker 2: the style the Giants need to pair with Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 2: to provide a perfect compliment on the now. Whether or

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Speaker 2: not he earns a ton of snaps as a rookie,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But that's why that's a great competition because,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, and I agree with you, I think

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Speaker 2: guys like Ledbetter and guys like like Robertson Harris have

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Speaker 2: been around this league and they're not gonna give up

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Speaker 2: snaps easily. They're gonna make him work for everything that

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Speaker 2: he gets. I think Alexander's gonna give them a fight.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how many snaps he can win.

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Speaker 1: competitions for starting spots, but I'm gonna rattle off you

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Speaker 1: don't have to spend a ton of time on this

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Speaker 1: because this is kind of in the weeds a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bore people that are not obsessed

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Speaker 1: with the last five guys of the roster like we are.

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Speaker 2: Depth chart talk. This is what preseason in camp is about.

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Speaker 1: How much can Jalen Hyatt force his way into regular

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Speaker 1: snaps on a weekly basis and does that who does

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Speaker 1: that come at the expense of That's something to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on. I'm curious to see how they split

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Speaker 1: the running back snaps up with Tracy Scattable and I'm

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Speaker 1: with Mark by the way in Newark. I think Tracy's excellent.

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Speaker 1: If I'm him, if I'm making those calls, I think

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Speaker 1: Tracy's great. Would I would play him the majority of

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Speaker 1: the snaps, But I'm a huge Camp scatbow fan. Too.

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Speaker 1: I think he's fantastic and Devin Singletrey's a good player too,

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Speaker 1: So Curtis to see how they work that a little bit,

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Speaker 1: how they work that edge rotation, and we'll hill from

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Speaker 1: Kevon Tibodau about that and just a little bit in

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: terms of who's on the edge, how do they get

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: all three guys in the field, how do they portion

1239
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: those snaps out through Chauncey Golston into that makes another

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00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: edge player who can play inside too, that they added

1241
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Does Golston get some snaps that defensive

1242
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: tackles A three tech teach another guy that mentioned we

1243
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: talked about that battle. Those are the other type of

1244
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: kind of depth chart usage competitions that I'm curious to

1245
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Speaker 1: see how they play out over the course of camp.

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Speaker 2: If I may just add one thing to what you

1247
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: just said, John, We'll probably go to Camp Scataboo because

1248
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 2: last season of Arizona State, he ran for twenty one

1249
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: touchdowns wrap your hands around them, and he was.

1250
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Speaker 1: A bell carry Like you watched that playoff one, dude one.

1251
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: He touched the ball like thirty times in that game.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm emphasizing here is that when you run

1253
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: for twenty one touchdowns. What does that tell you about

1254
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: this guy?

1255
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Speaker 1: Tough?

1256
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: It tells you he's rugged. It tells you he's got

1257
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: a nose for the end zone, and when they give

1258
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: him the ball down close, he finds a way to

1259
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: sniff it out and find that necessary space and that

1260
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: necessary force to power it across the goal line. That

1261
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: is a skill, that is a talent. It is an

1262
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: innate fact that some players just have. They are touchdown monsters.

1263
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Speaker 2: That's what's interesting to me with Scataboo because regardless of

1264
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Speaker 2: how many snaps he takes as a running back, John,

1265
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 2: is he going to be the goal line back? Yeah,

1266
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: good question, because he could just power it in and

1267
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Speaker 2: maybe get a ton of touchdowns, but maybe not have

1268
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: as many carries as some people would like because Singletary's

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Speaker 2: going to get some too.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight oh eight one zero one nine. Guys hanging

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Speaker 1: five minute interview here. Had a chance to talk to

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Speaker 1: Kaevon Thibodeau during Veteran Mini camp right before it started

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Speaker 1: about a month ago, and he's kind of in the

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Speaker 1: forgotten man. With the addition about du Carter, second year

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Speaker 1: for Brian. Second year here for Brian Burns, and I

1277
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: had a really fascinating conversation with him about how he's

1278
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: evolved with the pass rusher and how he thinks about

1279
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: rushing the passer that I think fans will enjoy and

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Speaker 1: you'll learn a little bit about how deeply he thinks

1281
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: about the game and how much kind of there's a

1282
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Speaker 1: craft the pass rushing for him. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: I feel great, all right, So I want to talk

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Speaker 1: to about something specific. Last year you were asked by

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: I think two million I counted times about comparing you

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Speaker 1: and Brian Burns and how you comment each other, right,

1292
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Speaker 1: And I think one of the answers that you gave

1293
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: a couple times that I want to dig on a

1294
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: little bit is that you describe the differences in your

1295
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: games that he is maybe a little bit more bendy

1296
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: in speed and you will maybe more of a power guy.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: Did you always think of yourself as a power guy

1299
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: or is that something that you think you've kind of

1300
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: moved into more of you got into the NFL.

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00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 17: I think I was I'm always a speed guy. So

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00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 17: I think speed is you know, the start to both

1303
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 17: of you know me, Brian Burns and even having a

1304
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 17: dual card now like she's a speed guy as well.

1305
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 17: I think once you kind of break down how we

1306
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 17: like to execute our moves, that's when a power or

1307
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 17: a you know, Burns still uses speed. So you'll see

1308
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 17: a lot of spins, You'll see a lot of quick jabs,

1309
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 17: You'll see a lot of you know, different movements that

1310
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 17: rely heavily on speed. Right, the same for a duel, right,

1311
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 17: a dual spinning, He's dipping and ripping, he's ghosting, he's flashing,

1312
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 17: and those are all speed moves.

1313
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Speaker 4: For me, I'm going to use my speed. Then I'm

1314
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 4: gonna go long and I'm gonna raise.

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Speaker 17: I'm gonna do more hand to hand combat than you know,

1316
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 17: some of the more speed guys will do.

1317
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: Did you think about it the same way when you

1318
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: were in college or is that something you've developed as

1319
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: you've gone along.

1320
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Speaker 17: So for me, it was all about developing my technique.

1321
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 17: So college, I focused on the hand to hand combat.

1322
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 17: When I first got in, it was all speed, it

1323
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 17: was get off, and then you start to learn like, okay,

1324
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 17: that's not the only thing, right.

1325
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: You can do more if you're able to.

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Speaker 17: So for me, I started really working on my technique

1327
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 17: and working on my hand to hand combat.

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Speaker 1: But making the offensive tackle. I imagine, worry about the

1329
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: speed is what considered right.

1330
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Speaker 4: Nothing else works without setting up the speed.

1331
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: Because that gets them until you catch them right exactly, exactly,

1332
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: because if the worried about the speed, they can't anchor

1333
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Speaker 1: down right exactly.

1334
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 17: If you just got power, that's not enough, right, you

1335
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 17: got to have a change up. And for me, speed

1336
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 17: is just starting and the power is to change up.

1337
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 17: And then for other guys, you know, their change ups

1338
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 17: are different.

1339
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Speaker 1: What was the process for you working on that hand

1340
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: to hand combat stuff and the long arm and you know,

1341
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: getting back inside at the starting outside.

1342
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Speaker 17: Every day, I mean, even whether you know whether you're

1343
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 17: on the field or off the field, Like I do

1344
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 17: stuff in the room where like I'm literally hand in

1345
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 17: hand combat with my brother and I we're just kind

1346
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 17: of fighting. We're going through things and the different moves

1347
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 17: and techniques that I would be in in the game.

1348
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 17: I do it at like a low tempo, low impact,

1349
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 17: So just talk about like a two hand swipe or

1350
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 17: like a long I'm like that long arm placement. I

1351
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 17: probably do that literally one hundred times a day a day.

1352
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 17: So and it's just like making sure it's perfect because

1353
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 17: you know, in a game, you got one time to

1354
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 17: execute it.

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01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't realize too. If

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: you get run around the quarterback, it might look good

1357
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: on tape, but but but it doesn't help the defense, right,

1358
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: So talk about the advantage of being a pocket pusher

1359
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: as much as being a guy that that's going to

1360
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: threaten the edge, you know what I mean.

1361
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 17: It's a guy like Dexter Lawrence. I think you know,

1362
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 17: he's a perfect example. He's not going to get to

1363
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 17: the quarterback every time, but if the quarterback can't step

1364
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 17: into his throat. You know, quarterbacks have techniques and mechanics,

1365
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 17: mechanics as well. So for us, putting the offensive linement

1366
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 17: on the quarterback's lap is just as important as actually

1367
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 17: tackling or sacking the quarterback.

1368
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: Do you get as maybe as much satisfaction is a

1369
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: little strong, But do you get a level of satisfaction.

1370
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: Definitely when one of your teammates get the sack, but

1371
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: they get the sack because you push the pocket and

1372
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback has nowhere to run.

1373
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 17: You definitely get the satisfaction even if no one gets

1374
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 17: the sack, but you know that it was an incomplete pass,

1375
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 17: or even sometimes for me, it's really that one on

1376
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 17: one battle, Like I don't even have to see what

1377
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 17: happens at the end of the play, but I get

1378
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 17: the satisfaction knowing. I know deck's probably a test to this,

1379
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 17: but like, just get the satisfaction of just destroying the

1380
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 17: guy in front of you. And when you start to

1381
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 17: impose your will, you know, you start to see how

1382
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 17: they break down.

1383
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: So now next gen stats and stuff they put together

1384
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: like pressure numbers and stuff like that, and quarterback gets

1385
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: do you pay attention or care about those raw numbers

1386
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: or is it just more of what your line coach

1387
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: is telling you in the meeting room.

1388
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 17: So for me, it's I really only care about what

1389
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 17: my coach tells me in the meeting room. In the film,

1390
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 17: I think there's a there's just a big difference between

1391
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 17: sports and numbers. You know, when you watch certain maybe

1392
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 17: like basketball, right, Yeah, like a guy put up forty

1393
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 17: in the numbers of this and that, and it makes sense.

1394
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 17: But like there are a lot of things in a

1395
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 17: football game that don't have.

1396
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: Statistics working together.

1397
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't have statistics.

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Speaker 17: So it's like just how you said, Like, if I

1399
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 17: put a guy on a quarterback's lap, that's not a

1400
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 17: pressure because I didn't touch them, right, Like, because I'm

1401
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 17: on the other side and I didn't actually get past

1402
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 17: the alignment, it doesn't register as a pressure. So but

1403
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 17: when you watch it on tape, I'm impacting the game, right,

1404
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 17: I'm you know, doing these things. So to me, even

1405
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 17: setting the edge, right when a run play, when they're

1406
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 17: trying to you know, run and I set the edge

1407
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 17: and then he cuts back and somebody else makes the tackle.

1408
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 17: It's like it's not a stat but on film, that's

1409
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 17: what you're supposed to do. And that's why we get,

1410
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 17: you know, paid the big bucks.

1411
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: Right.

1412
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about i'ud quarter. What has

1413
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: it been like having him in the room. It seems

1414
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: like he is like a real like serious kind of

1415
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: edge to him with the way he approaches everything, right,

1416
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: he is he.

1417
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 17: Is a little serious, you know, we're gonna we're gonna

1418
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 17: loosen him up a little bit. He is a little

1419
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 17: tight right now, But I mean, I can understand it

1420
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 17: when you come into a team like this with guys

1421
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 17: already but you know, me, Burns, Decks, you got guys

1422
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 17: that kind of have been in Lee for a while,

1423
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 17: and then you're the number three pick. You gotta come

1424
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 17: into the big city and people are expecting stuff. Obviously,

1425
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 17: you know they're expecting from all of us, but you know,

1426
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 17: now it's his turn to take some of that heat.

1427
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 17: And I try to talk to him and let him know,

1428
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 17: just man, go play ball. But he's definitely gonna keep

1429
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 17: loosening up. It's gonna be fun.

1430
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: Have you finally, have you seen what this defense might

1431
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: be able to do in passing situations, second, along, third,

1432
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: and long when all three you guys are on the

1433
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: field at the same time.

1434
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 17: And listen passing situations, but even the run game. I mean,

1435
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 17: when you see the different things we have in store

1436
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 17: and how we're going to be able to utilize everybody

1437
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 17: in the energy and the focus and everything that we have,

1438
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 17: you know on the line, it's gonna beautiful.

1439
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: You feel like Shane's been able to expand the playbook

1440
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1441
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to talk too much.

1442
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm getting excited, but yeah, you get me excited. I

1443
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Keve, I areciate that that's Keveon Thibadeau. Different

1444
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: have an interview with him. You know, I don't like

1445
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: to try to ask these guys some of the basic

1446
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: questions you got. I tried to dig into a specific

1447
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: topic with him, Paul, and I think he really dig

1448
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: talking about kind of the art of the pass rush.

1449
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: And I hope fans have a greater appreciation for how

1450
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: he's attacking and why he's attacking the way he is

1451
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: and how while again a might not register with pressures

1452
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: and things like that, it is helping the defense as

1453
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 1: a whole.

1454
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: He is a very cerebral player, and I think that's

1455
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: very important because there is a lot of cat and

1456
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: mouse that goes on between tackles and guy who were

1457
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: coming off of the edge, an awful lot of cat

1458
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: and mouse, and so you have to be a thinking

1459
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: man over there. Yes, pure talent is awesome. There are

1460
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: some guys who can do it. But at the same time,

1461
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna name names, but over the years and

1462
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: I've been doing this a long time. I have seen

1463
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: some guys who physically were great and talents at the

1464
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: edge rushing spot, but because they didn't have the thinking

1465
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: man's part of the game, they had trouble getting on

1466
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: the field. And again I'm not gonna name names, but

1467
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: guys who had the ability, they had the toolbox, they

1468
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: had the skill set, and because they couldn't process correctly

1469
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: on defense. I'm not talking about a quarterback. I'm talking

1470
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: about even an edge rusher couldn't process correctly, Defensive coordinators

1471
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: would be afraid to put him out there because they know,

1472
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: if we put that guy out there, he's only got

1473
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: one thing that he's gonna be able to do right,

1474
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: because it's a limited scope that we can put into

1475
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: his head. And the other team knows that and so

1476
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: they take advantage of it. You have to be a

1477
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 2: thinking man to play that position correctly.

1478
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: Eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine eight

1479
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine. Smelt

1480
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: Tatino taking your calls until now only Keith McPherson comes

1481
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: your way. Let's go to TJ in Fairlong. He wants

1482
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: to talk about the quarterback Russell Wilson. TJ.

1483
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 10: What's up, let's start up.

1484
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 16: Yeah, just to speak on Russell Wilson. Everybody's really excited

1485
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 16: in talking about Jackson Dark.

1486
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 9: I'm more excited.

1487
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 16: About Russell Wilson for a few reasons. First reason being

1488
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 16: him coming to New York has been years in the making.

1489
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 16: We've heard the rumors year after year. Last year in

1490
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 16: Pittsburgh it wasn't even that bad. At eleven starts, he

1491
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 16: threw twenty five hundred yards at sixteen touchdowns five six

1492
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 16: It's still went to the Pro Bowl. The biggest point, though,

1493
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 16: Malik neighbors, this is going to be the best wide

1494
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 16: receiver that Wilson has ever had Bevan Doug Baldwin father

1495
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 16: DK metcalf bether than Tyler Locket.

1496
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: No, you're not wrong about that. I think that's fair.

1497
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: And now, look, Ghops has to prove it over a

1498
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: longer period of time. But you know, given how he

1499
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: looked at as a rookie, he certainly has the ability and

1500
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: potential to be better than any receiver he's had.

1501
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: I can appreciate your admiration for Russell Wilson. And having

1502
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 2: said that, get a look at the New SI article.

1503
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: The Connor Orr had a great had a great interview.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we're gonna have Connor on the Johns Total

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01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: podcast next week talking about this came out YEP today.

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01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: Go to Sports Illustrated cover story on Russell Wilson about

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01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: his focus, his intensity, his determination. He's looking at this

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01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: as you know what, a lot of people are writing

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01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: me off, but they better not because I'm coming back

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01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: with a vengeance.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Look, and Paul mentioned this before. He just was really impressed.

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01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: And and when I say impressed, I don't mean in

1514
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: like the traditional form. Just his mere presence has been

1515
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: put upon the rest of the team, and they just

1516
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: appreciate the way he communicates with everybody, how he tells

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01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: everybody exactly what he wants and how he wants it.

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: I think there's just a comfort level knowing he's back there.

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01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: And look, he's not the player he was when he

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01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: went to Super Bowls, right, he does. He's not quite

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: as athletage. Correct, he's thirty seven years old. You're never

1522
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: gonna be the athlete you are a thirty seven, then

1523
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: you're twenty five like that. That's not how the world works, right,

1524
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: But there's a level of knowledge there and the big

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01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: number to keep an eye on this year. TJ is

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. When he throws passes, he's a pretty efficient player,

1527
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: like you lot his quarterback rating, even over the last

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: three years, it's still been better than anything that Giants

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: have had since Eli Manning has been here, and not

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01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: even like end of current Eli Manning like twenty and

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: twelve Eli Manning. His passer rating numbers are that good.

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: The problem is taking sacks, and that's something always Russell

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: Wilson has had an issue with. He holds the ball

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, he tries to get the ball down

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: the field, and he's always taken a lot of sacks

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: over the course of his career. So if Brian Dable

1537
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: can work on getting the blo out of his hands

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01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker, if the Giants off line can

1539
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: do a better job protecting him to give him clean pockets,

1540
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: you are going to see more downfield passes and explosive

1541
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: plays than we've seen from this Giants offense since he

1542
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: LII Manning has been here. Because he likes to throw

1543
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. If you can put all

1544
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: that together and you can protect him a little bit

1545
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: and he can get the ball out of his hands

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker than he has over the last

1547
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: couple of years. This offense should look better. I'm not

1548
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: telling you it's gonna be a top ten unit. I'm

1549
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: not telling you it's gonna be a top five unit,

1550
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: but it certainly should be a lot better than what

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: we've seen over the past couple of years.

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: I find that Wilson subscribes to that theory that a

1553
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 2: high tide raises all boats, and I think that's why

1554
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: he's going out of his way to be so incredibly focused,

1555
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: not just on his own job, but trying to help

1556
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: everybody else raise their game too.

1557
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: And thanks to the call, TJ appreciate Hi man, good stuff,

1558
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: but look, it'll be exciting to see what he can

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01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: give you. And again, we're not telling it's gonna be

1560
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl.

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 5: We're not.

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: Today is all pro, but it's going to be a

1563
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: higher level and more consistent level of play than what

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01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: we've seen from the Giants quarterback fishing over the past

1565
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: few years. It's gonna be more efficient and he might

1566
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: and by the way, he might take a sack here there,

1567
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna turn the ball over like his

1568
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: turnover rate over the last what was it. I looked

1569
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: at it twelve or thirteen years. The only player I

1570
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: think with a lower turnover rate than it was Aaron Rodgers.

1571
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 1: Both guys know how to protect the football.

1572
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: For his career, he's over three to one touchdown day

1573
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: reception ratio.

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01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: Correct, so he knows how to protect the ball. All right,

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01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: quick time at we'll take more of your calls eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine. Eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight eight one zero one nine, will be

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01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: back with more. Giants Training Camp Preview Special brought to

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Speaker 1: you locally by Ford, the official truck and suv of

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01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. I were back on the Giants

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: Training Camp Perview Special brought to you locally by Ford,

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: the official truck and suv of the New York Giants.

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: Schmelkndatino with you taking your calls at eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight oh eight one zero one nine. I'm sorry eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight eight one zero one nine and just

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: a little bit wherever Giant safety Javon Holland you'll join

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: us right here on the Giants Training Camp Preview Special.

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01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: My man Ray Jarvis doing a great job on this

1589
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: side of the glass, keeping this show rolling and he's

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: gonna bring up Ben in Stanford. Connecty get up next Ben.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 4: Pal?

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 7: Hey guys?

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01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 4: How are you?

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01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: We're good?

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01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: Ben? What do you have?

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 9: Nothing?

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01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 7: Just well, first of all, someone should do a welfare

1599
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 7: check on that guy who thinks DeVante Banks is a

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 7: little too aggressive. I don't know what sport he's watching,

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01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 7: but so I was thinking about, you know, obviously there's

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01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 7: an important season for for Dable. I don't know if

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 7: you guys remember the players pulled that the athletic did

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01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 7: and he still had a pretty high rating, which kind

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 7: of surprised me. That didn't seem like he had lost

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01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 7: the locker room.

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: And I was, but then I can speak to that

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: very quickly. Giant fan c A version of Brian Dable

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: at the podium during the week and after games could

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01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: not be more different than real life Brian Dabele, who

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: is loose, fun, gives me a gives everyone around here

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01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: a hard time and has fun with them. Like this year,

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01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: like for example, we started doing just to give you

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: an example, this year, we started doing reports for giants

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01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: dot com and you know you and Instagram and YouTube

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01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: bro all that stuff after every practice and I guess

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: Dave started statum. So we come off to practice and

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01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, Schmelker, what are you doing today? And

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: he starts like mocking my reports and I'm like, Daved,

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: you're killing me. He goes, hey, you're the best small

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01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: and he just walks away like he's he's a very

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: And that's how he treats everybody like he's a very loose,

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: fun guy, and he really does know how to connect

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01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: with the players. I think he could be a very

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: good coach. He just gotta start scoring more points. And

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: by the way, he knows that, he knows the offense

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01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: has not been good enough.

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that I try to tell

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01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: people all the time about Dabele is he's put in

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01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: an awful lot of time at all the different levels

1631
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: of football, ye from the bottom all the way up

1632
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 2: to the top, different coaching assignments, coordinator assignments, head coaching assignments,

1633
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: and he has been with winners upon winners upon winners

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: upon winners. He has a trophy case that is just

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01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: full full of metal hardware.

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01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: Now, obviously the results now have to match that play.

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: Let's not forget that he was a coach of the

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: Year in his first season with the Giants. No, I

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01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: I noboddy thought the team had a chance to be

1640
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: a playoff team, and they won a playoff game in Minnesota.

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01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I guess my other point is, like I

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 7: would love to get to a point like Halloween where

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01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 7: we're not looking at draft positions and we're not looking

1644
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 7: at possible like replacements for dables for dable like, and

1645
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 7: we have such a tough schedule, like to me, if

1646
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 7: we go I don't know six and eleven, but we're

1647
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 7: competitive in December, Like, I'm not sure I want to

1648
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 7: make a change, but who knows what anything could look

1649
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 7: like Obviously the season we don't know until it's happening.

1650
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 7: I hope we don't make a change, because they do

1651
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 7: want it to work for him, but it's been so

1652
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 7: bad for so long, even before he got here. So

1653
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 7: I just hope some things start to break the right

1654
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 7: way because we are due for some luck.

1655
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: Thanks gonna call that, appreciate it.

1656
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: Benefy may add one thing as you go. I will

1657
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: say this, when you have a recent history of stumbling

1658
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: along as the Giants have, it is easy to stick

1659
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 2: some of that residue on the guy who's here now.

1660
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 2: Of course, and that's part of the problem.

1661
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh his fans and understand that we sew they just

1662
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: see a pattern over a long period of time, right,

1663
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: But you can't put what happened eight years ago on

1664
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: a gout that has been here.

1665
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,919
Speaker 2: For four years. Nothing that happened here under Macadoo, Schurma

1666
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 2: or Judge has anything to do with Brian Dabele, who

1667
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: right now with this franchise, has had a playoff season

1668
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: that nobody expected and was NFL Coach of the Year,

1669
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 2: and two other seasons that were significantly derailed by injuries,

1670
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: specifically at the quarterback position, and some very suspect play

1671
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, by guys who should have done better.

1672
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: Brian Dabele to me, does not deserve the amount of

1673
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 2: heat that he's gotten over the course of the last year.

1674
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: But it's been part of that residue of frustration that

1675
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 2: has been lead.

1676
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: At his feet football And Brian Dable said that's himself,

1677
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: he gets it. We get it. Coaches the game. Coaches

1678
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: are judged by their record.

1679
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: It's part of the games the way it goes.

1680
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: You have to live with that, of course, and and.

1681
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 2: Again it's part of the climate when you accept the job,

1682
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: you expect that the environment is going to impact how

1683
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: people perceive you. You have to know what's going to happen.

1684
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: And we all know what John Marras said at the

1685
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: end of the season in terms of no expects to

1686
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: be in a much better mood than next year than

1687
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: this year and all that stuff. You have to rehash

1688
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: all that, right, But and I know fans probably don't

1689
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: want to hear this because you want to look at

1690
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: the bottom line record, and yes, the bottom line record

1691
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: is what matters. But I think Mark made a good point.

1692
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: You know, you get to the end of the year,

1693
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 1: and I know this is probably a little inside baseball,

1694
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: look at what the point differential is, right if they're

1695
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: losing some games. But if you lose to the Chiefs

1696
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: in Week three, but it's twenty seven to twenty four,

1697
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: and you know, Harrison Bucker kicks a game winning field

1698
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: goal with three minutes to go, am I supposed to

1699
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: walk out of that game really mad. Like if you're

1700
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 1: playing at Philly and you know Aj Brown catches the

1701
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: deep touchdown and Philly wins by four at the end

1702
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: of the game, and you know you lose on the

1703
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: final possession in Philly is that a bad job by

1704
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: Brian Dable? You know what I mean? And I know

1705
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: again it's it's hard to think that way.

1706
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 5: Right.

1707
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: They'll be frustrated, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's

1708
01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: a bad coaching job.

1709
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know what I mean. So you can be frustrated,

1710
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: but you can't dump on.

1711
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: The guys with with the schedule. You're gonna have to

1712
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: look at this a little bit of a different way,

1713
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: which I know people don't want to hear that, And frankly,

1714
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: I don't think people here want to hear that. Either

1715
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: they expect to win football games. They want to win

1716
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: football games. They're not gonna Carol, we lost a close game.

1717
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hear that. No, or they wouldn't want

1718
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: to hear that. No one wants to hear that.

1719
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: You don't get tickets postseason tickets for losing close games.

1720
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: Correct, you know it, You know no, you don't. You

1721
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 1: don't get style points for for wins or losses for

1722
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: that matter. That's just the way correct. There is no

1723
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: poll correct point dif friendship does not matter when it

1724
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: comes to the standings, one hundred percent right. But it's

1725
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: a really, really tough schedule you could play a great

1726
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: game and still lose to Patrick Holmes. You could play

1727
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: a great game in Week two and still lose to

1728
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: commands that you can play really good against Dallas in

1729
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: Dallas and week you know we wanted and still use

1730
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: the game or Week two against Dallas to lose the game.

1731
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: You have commanders in week one. But that's just the

1732
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: way the season's gonna kind of go. Here, all right,

1733
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: it's time for our third and final interview. Javon Holland

1734
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: is brought to you by ticket Masher, the official ticket

1735
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: marketplace of the New York Giants and the NFL. I

1736
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to Javon, one of the

1737
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: giants new additions in the secondary again, during mandatory mini

1738
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: camp the second week of June. Here's my chat with him.

1739
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: So we talked to you when he got here. You're

1740
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: really excited. What is the experience been like? Did it

1741
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: match what you kind of thought it was gonna be

1742
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: when you got here? Yeah?

1743
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think I think everybody on the team and

1744
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 18: in the organization has has done a great job of,

1745
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 18: you know, welcoming me, and I feel at home and

1746
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 18: so I'm really enjoying myself and I think everybody here

1747
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 18: is you know, they're really good people and we're all

1748
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 18: one mind, you know, going to one direction.

1749
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: How about the defensive scheme? Has it met what you

1750
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be. How has it been like

1751
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out?

1752
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 3: It hasn't been too complicated.

1753
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 18: I think they do a good job of keeping simple,

1754
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 18: but while also you know, reaching the certain you know

1755
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 18: aspects of you know, how they're trying to attack an offense.

1756
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 18: I think we do a good job of detailing the

1757
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 18: small things and emphasizing them. But you know, at the

1758
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 18: end of the day, everything comes back comes back to technique,

1759
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 18: and I think coach him and Coach Bowen do a

1760
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,480
Speaker 18: great job of making sure that, you know, they emphasize

1761
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 18: our principles and what they want to see from us,

1762
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 18: while also allowing us a room to grow within the defense.

1763
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Shane was very excited to bring you

1764
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: in pulse in a dbo in. You know, when you

1765
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: play his zone heavy scheme, there's gonna be a lot

1766
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: of disguise, and I think it helps having veterans to

1767
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: do that. Are you seeing some of those disguise aspects

1768
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: even in the spring where you guys are trying to

1769
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 1: show one thing and then post snap you're rotating to

1770
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: something else to try to make that quarterback think once

1771
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: or twice before they make a decision.

1772
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, they're they're slowly trickling in a lot

1773
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 18: of the time early in the spring, you know, you're

1774
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 18: just trying to get comfortable with the defense and see,

1775
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 18: you know, where everybody's feet land. And then you know,

1776
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 18: these last couple of days, as we've gotten out there,

1777
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 18: we've been able to you know, add some disguises, add

1778
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 18: some you know, put a little sugar on top, just

1779
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 18: to you know, give the quarterback something differency.

1780
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: I know you're excited to put a Tyler Newman when

1781
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: you got here. Now that you've been in a meeting

1782
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: room with him, seeing how he ticks and how his

1783
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: mind works, what has it been like kind of learning

1784
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: about him.

1785
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 3: It's great, it's great.

1786
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 18: I had a coach tell me that everybody needs every

1787
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 18: every other safety needs. You know, there's caddies, and then

1788
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 18: there's golfers and and a lot of the time in

1789
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 18: golf or in football as well, you know you have

1790
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 18: one guy who's a golfer and he's just like athletically

1791
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 18: there and he can go and get it. And then

1792
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 18: you have a caddy who is both athletically there but mental.

1793
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 18: On the mental side, you know, he can control the defense,

1794
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 18: he can communicate. I don't think either of us are golfers.

1795
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 18: I think both of us are caddies, and I think

1796
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 18: Tiber does a great job of both using his intelligence

1797
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 18: to take advantage of the pre snap while also communicating

1798
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 18: and making things clear.

1799
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 3: For the defense.

1800
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 18: I think it's you know, it's been it's been nice

1801
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 18: to see a young talent like that and and how

1802
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 18: high his ceiling is, and he's very, very motivated. So

1803
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 18: I'm really happy to be able to, you know, help

1804
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 18: help guide him and and and help bring him along

1805
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 18: because he's he's real uh, he's real gifted.

1806
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're completely interchangeable where both of

1807
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: you guys can do every job that you need to

1808
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 1: do as a safety.

1809
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 18: I think so, Yeah, I definitely think so. I think

1810
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 18: that's the you know, part of the reason why they

1811
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 18: brought us in. I think as new grows, he's gonna

1812
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 18: become even more you know, of an interchangeable safety. But

1813
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 18: I think he's where he is right now and in

1814
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 18: the short time. I mean it's it's it's final to

1815
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 18: see how you know, confident he is back there, and

1816
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 18: how successful he can be when he's communicating.

1817
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 3: He's clear, he's able to just react.

1818
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: And I got to imagine the ability to be interchangeable

1819
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: is what gives the defensive coordinator freedom, right because if

1820
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: the defense, if the offense rather doesn't know, all right, well,

1821
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: this guy's always the strong, this guy's always the fray,

1822
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: then that opens up so many doors for what you

1823
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: guys can do.

1824
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 9: Right.

1825
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 18: Yeah, for the front offense, I mean it adds a

1826
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 18: foggy level of clarity, you know what I mean, Like

1827
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 18: it's not so clear who's doing what. So I think,

1828
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 18: you know, for a defense, it definitely opens up a

1829
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 18: lot more and the ability for us to just kind

1830
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 18: of show a shell and then get to whatever we

1831
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 18: need to get to.

1832
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: So they're new for you, but they're new for the

1833
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 1: Giants too. You have a new defense back coach and

1834
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: a new quarterbacks coach. Here, what has it been like

1835
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: in the room. How do they run the room and

1836
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of how do they try to bring you guys

1837
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 1: all together so you're on the same page.

1838
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so em And and JB.

1839
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: Markarttmanuel being a yes, Mark.

1840
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 18: Carmanuel, Jeff Burris and and Pops Mike Mike Adams date,

1841
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 18: all three of them do a phenomenal job working together.

1842
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 18: I think Coach is kind of the spearhead for for.

1843
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 3: What we're what we're doing.

1844
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 18: And then h JB and Pops are you know, his

1845
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 18: right hand and left hand and they're you know, as

1846
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 18: he's talking in front of the room, they're giving small

1847
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 18: points to certain guys and it's a great mix, you know,

1848
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 18: you know, there's never a single voice. They all have

1849
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 18: different opinions and they all share opinions with each other,

1850
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 18: and you know, it's a it's a well, it's a

1851
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 18: well rounded thought process. You know, JB was first round

1852
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 18: pick for their colts, and Am spent years in the

1853
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 18: league and also on Super Bowl winning teams, so there's

1854
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 18: a lot of knowledge, and there's and Pops as well

1855
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 18: as like eleven thirteen years in the league, So there's

1856
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 18: a lot of knowledge of dB and there's a lot

1857
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 18: of knowledge in a room and they're definitely able to

1858
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 18: you know, share those tidbits to us over their years.

1859
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 1: All right, final question, You've been around teams that have

1860
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: had a lot of success. You've been around of the

1861
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: teams that have struggled. When you take a look at

1862
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: this defense, do you think this group has something to

1863
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: it where you guys can and this team where you

1864
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: guys can be pretty good this year?

1865
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1866
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.

1867
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 18: I think that the accumulation, it's that we have the

1868
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 18: work ethic that the guys are putting and the overall

1869
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 18: attitude towards both coaching, the scheme and how we're running things.

1870
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 18: I think we're gonna be We're gonna have some success.

1871
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: For sure.

1872
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: You found a home course yet in Jersey or No.

1873
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 18: There's a couple of courses, man. I get off the

1874
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,520
Speaker 18: Forest Hill, a lot upper Montclair. I was at Preagnus

1875
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 18: Father's Elbow. I mean, there's there's a lot of good courses.

1876
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 18: I'm staying over in Hoboken Weehawking area, so I'm a

1877
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 18: little bit farther, but I don't mind the drive. Playing

1878
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 18: Old Bridge today, Uh, one of the newer courses down

1879
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 18: in a not South Jersey, but a more southern area.

1880
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 18: So I'm excited though, I'm excited to play Scarsdale.

1881
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: There's plenty of courses.

1882
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 8: Man.

1883
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 18: I played Scarsdale yesterday or two days ago. Shot eighty two.

1884
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 18: So I'm coming around. I'm hoping to break to break

1885
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 18: eighty real soon, not yet. I shot eighty at Somerset Hills,

1886
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 18: and it's really because like small blow up holes, and

1887
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 18: it's usually because I make a wrong decision to like,

1888
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 18: you know, grab whatever.

1889
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: Club too aggressive.

1890
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 18: So yeah, you know what I mean, Like I can

1891
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 18: go for it, but just play the smart shot, play

1892
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 18: the smart so coming soon, bricking Adie, coming soon.

1893
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 1: Keep working on. Paul could Javon howand get you on

1894
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: the golf course?

1895
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: No what he could?

1896
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: He loves his golf, though, man Javon loves his golf.

1897
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, I understand that, and there have been a lot

1898
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 2: of players who love their golf. I am a paison,

1899
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: which means I have no patience. And when you have

1900
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: no patience, you cannot go to the golf course.

1901
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: Well, I hate to tell you there are a lot

1902
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: of Italians that play golf. Have you been to like

1903
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,879
Speaker 1: Dyker Heights golf course at Brooklyn?

1904
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 2: How many it is filled.

1905
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: With a bunch of old Italian guys playing golf for us?

1906
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: How many guys are the old time top one hundred

1907
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 2: golfing list or Italian? Probably not more than one if

1908
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: that it's not what we do well, I'm just saying fairpoint.

1909
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: Fair point, Javon Holland more seriously, I am excited se

1910
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: him and Tyler Nuban together two smart safeties, and I

1911
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: talked to him about this in the interview interchange a

1912
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: little bit as he allows Shamee Bold to allow of

1913
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: disguising on the back half of that defense, which should

1914
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. We'll be right back with more.

1915
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Speaker 1: Will take your calls. One more segment to Keith McPherson

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Speaker 1: comes your way at nine o'clock. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: more right after this quarterback on the Giants Training Camp

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Speaker 1: eight one zero one nine, taking to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the hour. At at the top of the hour rather

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Speaker 1: at nine o'clock when Keith McPherson comes your way, Big

1927
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Speaker 1: day in the NFL, non giant wise jests with a

1928
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Speaker 1: couple of big signings Garret Wilson four years, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty million, ninety guaranteed, Sauce Gardner four for one,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixty guaranteed, a couple of contract extensions. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that and a whole lot more coming your way

1932
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Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. And I mentioned Trey Smith, also a

1933
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Speaker 1: record guard. So we had a record quarterback contract today

1934
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Speaker 1: in Sauce, highest paid quarterback in NFL history and the

1935
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Speaker 1: highest paid Garden NFL history with Trey Smith at four years,

1936
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Speaker 1: ninety four million, seventy of that guarantee. Patrick Mahomes had

1937
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Speaker 1: a little smiley faced emoji on Twitter after that one.

1938
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Speaker 1: He was quite pleased.

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Speaker 2: Should we make McPherson the highest paid host in radio history.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'd be okay with that. I bet you

1941
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Speaker 2: he would.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to write the check that I won't do?

1943
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. All right, it's not to play some factor

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Speaker 1: fiction brought to you by the Rothenberg Law Form Injured

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Speaker 1: Visit Injury Lawyer dot com. All right, Paul, factor fiction,

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Speaker 1: I have not told you what I'm doing for these

1947
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Speaker 1: so this is gonna know you're straight up indis on

1948
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Speaker 1: me blindly? Yes, Sam, which you are?

1949
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Speaker 2: Which you love to do?

1950
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Speaker 3: Which I like to do?

1951
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: Yes you do.

1952
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Speaker 1: Who will be the Giants offensive star at training camp

1953
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Speaker 1: this year?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I passively a fact of fiction. Let me put that again.

1956
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Speaker 1: My Lak neighbors will be the Giants offensive star training

1957
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Speaker 1: camp this year. Factor fiction. I almost broke the rules

1958
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Speaker 1: of my own game.

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Speaker 2: But I was just gonna say, how am I supposed

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Speaker 2: to answer?

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Speaker 1: No, you can't. Well, the Lak dagbors be the factor fiction.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say fiction.

1963
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Speaker 1: Okay, why?

1964
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Speaker 2: A couple of reasons. First of all, I think Russell

1965
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: Wilson is going to be dynamite. I'm a very big

1966
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 2: believer in what he is doing and that I also

1967
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 2: believe that Cam Skataboo is going to have this crowd

1968
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Speaker 2: rocking and rolling every time he touches the.

1969
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Speaker 1: Bard for powerbacks.

1970
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Speaker 2: I think people are so enamored with him. Look, I

1971
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 2: just saw him recently. We were walking through the lunch

1972
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: room together and I said to him, do you understand

1973
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: that you're like a cult hero already here? Because he

1974
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:36,879
Speaker 2: was very modest about it, and I said.

1975
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Speaker 1: He's a very for a guy that plays with such

1976
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: panache and violence. He's a very low key guy.

1977
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very even keel, very low key. I mean,

1978
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: exactly the opposite of me. And I said, look, I'm

1979
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,839
Speaker 2: not I'm not trying to tell you anything you probably

1980
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: don't already know. But because of your background and because

1981
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: of your playing style and the height that's already come with,

1982
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: you're being drafted here. People are really jacked up for you.

1983
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I just hope you know the

1984
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Speaker 2: expectations are high and the fans are gonna love you, man,

1985
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 2: because they were already starting. And he was like, very

1986
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: modest about it. But I think every time he touches

1987
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Speaker 2: the ball, you're gonna get people in the crowd that

1988
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Speaker 2: are gonna be pretty rocking about him.

1989
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's gonna be neighbors. He's Russell Moss to throw

1990
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: a deep, Neighbors, knows how to run deep. He's gonna

1991
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Speaker 1: make some great catches. It's gonna be neighbors because Frankly

1992
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: is the i mean best offensive, most explosive offensive player

1993
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Speaker 1: on the roster, and he's awesome. And I think he's

1994
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna be healthy to start camp, and I think he's

1995
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Speaker 1: gonna be great, and you're going neighbors.

1996
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Speaker 2: Your reasoning is one thousand and fifty percent logical. I'm

1997
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Speaker 2: not sure how much he's even going to play a

1998
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Speaker 2: training camp.

1999
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Speaker 1: That's the trick.

2000
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Speaker 2: That's the trick.

2001
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Speaker 1: I think they would want to get him some time

2002
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Speaker 1: with Wilson to gain that continental I think.

2003
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Speaker 2: They will, but I also think they still want to

2004
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: be cautious with him, and so again, I just don't

2005
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: maybe think he's gonna get as many chances as you might.

2006
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Speaker 2: And I've digested that into my factor fiction.

2007
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Speaker 1: Yes, Abdul Carter will be the defensive star at trading camp.

2008
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Speaker 4: Fact.

2009
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 2: I will say fact on that one, and that's because

2010
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: I do think we will see an awful lot of

2011
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Speaker 2: him between all the different permutations of where he's going

2012
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: to line up, He's gonna be all over the field.

2013
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Speaker 2: And even though they will blow the whistle dead excuse

2014
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: me on a number of occasions where he's about to

2015
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 2: hit the quarterback, people are gonna get really excited about him.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Third one, factor fiction, give me your answer.

2018
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's gonna be out

2019
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Speaker 1: to the quarter people are he's the third over pick

2020
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Speaker 1: in the draft. He's probably if not the best, a

2021
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 1: top three athlete on the team. Just the way he

2022
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: moves it stinks that. I'm not sure based on what

2023
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas told us on the interview we did with

2024
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: him earlier on the program, we might not get that

2025
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: match up much in camp at practice because if Tomas

2026
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: coming back from that foot injury, right, but I would

2027
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Speaker 1: love to see that one on one. Abdul Carter, Jermaine

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Speaker 1: illuminor I'll think that too, But sounds like fun.

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Speaker 2: Go back to your first question for just a second.

2030
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Speaker 2: Every time Jackson Dart throws a touchdown pass, the crowd's

2031
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 2: gonna go nuts, too.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put that type of pressure on

2034
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. I don't think that's fair.

2035
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Speaker 2: I don't want to put that kind of pressure on

2036
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Speaker 2: any rookie. I didn't even want to do it to Cam,

2037
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: but the people already.

2038
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Pumped up about him and your cutter.

2039
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Speaker 2: Yes, no, it'scattable.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's cattable. I think you picked two rookies. I'm sorry,

2041
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: my bad. People are excited about him, absolutely, all right.

2042
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Speaker 1: Final factor fiction here, the breakout player in training camp

2043
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Speaker 1: this year will be Jalen Hyatt.

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Speaker 2: Boy I hope. So I'll go fact only because I

2045
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: want it to be.

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Speaker 1: Who else do you think it could be besides Hyatt?

2047
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Speaker 1: Is that that's based on what we saw in the spring.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes sense. He had a monster spring. He

2049
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: was fantastic. We talked about the way he put on

2050
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Speaker 1: twenty pounds, a good weight. He still runs fast as

2051
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: GPS numbers are what they were before. Who else you

2052
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Speaker 1: think could be a breakout candidate?

2053
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Speaker 2: I think it would be possible. Now people here don't

2054
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: know a lot about Pulse and a debo because he

2055
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 2: played for the same Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think a guy you paid all

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Speaker 1: that money in the off season is a breakout No,

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Speaker 1: And that's why I'm gonna say he was almost my

2059
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: defensive star that I picked, to be honest with. Yeah,

2060
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: so problems that I think he might get stuck on

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01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: neighbors too much, and Neighbors is so good it's gonna

2062
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 1: be hard for him to be the defensive star.

2063
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 2: I understand, you know, But yeah, I think I think

2064
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 2: when you talk about that question, you have to take

2065
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 2: into account the expectation, and I just don't think anybody's

2066
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: really expecting much out of Hyatt because he hasn't shown

2067
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 2: a lot in the first two years.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's great.

2069
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Speaker 2: So it's got so it's got to be him. It's

2070
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: gotta be him. I mean, it's got to be a landslide.

2071
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 2: It's gotta be Jalen Hyatt.

2072
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Speaker 1: It could it be Deontay Banks, it could be That's

2073
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 1: the other guy I'm looking when I when I look

2074
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: for a breakout candidate, I look for the guy that

2075
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: I think their production hasn't met. That's their physical skills yet, right,

2076
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Speaker 1: And those are the two guys with Hyatt's speed and

2077
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: Banks's just total package size and speed together, those two

2078
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: guys are the two that jump out of me that

2079
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: I know. The guys have it physically, they can do it,

2080
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: they just haven't put it together yet. That's why I

2081
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 1: think those are the guys that have the two best

2082
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 1: chances there.

2083
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 2: And I'll throw one other guy onto the fire for you,

2084
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: and that would be THEO Johnson.

2085
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

2086
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 2: Showed us a lot of flashes and then could hurt

2087
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: when he injured his foot at the end of last season.

2088
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 2: THEO Johnson could be a very very productive player.

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2095
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Speaker 1: particularly looking forward to a training camp. And by the way, folks,

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Speaker 1: if you guys want to go out to the training camp,

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Speaker 1: Camp to get your tickets. There are some available still.

2099
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Speaker 2: You can go out.

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Speaker 1: It's a great environment for kids. They can get aug

2101
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,520
Speaker 1: gas from the players after practice, adults can get autographs

2102
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: from the alumni that show up. They have games, food, concessions,

2103
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Speaker 1: you can there's a team shop. You can buy gear

2104
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Speaker 1: if you want to come, and a lot of fun

2105
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Speaker 1: stuff for the kids today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really a great time folks. And over

2107
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 2: the course of a couple of weeks there there are

2108
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 2: plenty of opportunities and still tickets available for I think

2109
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 2: two thirds or three fourths of the practices. Only a

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01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: few of them are.

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Speaker 1: Sold out, and those are mostly the weekend ones. That

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01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: get so exactly exactly.

2113
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Speaker 2: So you know certainly, and do remember, by the way,

2114
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 2: check the weather that day, because if practice has to

2115
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 2: go inside.

2116
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: You're buying tickets ahead of time, you can't really check

2117
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 1: the weather that far. No, But if you have tickets, right,

2118
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Speaker 1: don't just drive out here.

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Speaker 2: Do make sure you check the weather and check giants

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Speaker 2: dot Com, check the Twitter, check all your social media

2121
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Speaker 2: because if they've got to move practice inside because of

2122
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 2: either rain or a heavy threat of rain, they can't

2123
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 2: let fans in the field house to watch practice because

2124
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: of safety issues.

2125
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 1: And I will say this, oftentimes, if it's a light rain,

2126
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: they'll still practice outside it's a heavy rain or more importantly, lightning.

2127
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: Lightning is the real bugaboo, right for sure.

2128
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: To keep in mind, I want to throw one other

2129
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: item in here that we haven't talked about in two

2130
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 2: hours yet, and that's the special team's rulves have changed

2131
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 2: again with the kickoffs. And you know, one of the

2132
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 2: things the Giants have really emphasized during this offseason is

2133
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 2: to greatly enhance their special teams. And I will say

2134
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: this right now, John, I'm a big smith Marsett guy.

2135
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 2: I thought he did a great job on returns last year,

2136
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: his kickoff returns were really spectactical age. They have a

2137
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 2: lot of fun. I hope he wins that job again

2138
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 2: and does a really terrific, terrific job in a second

2139
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Speaker 2: season with the Giants. I hope he's the guy. I

2140
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 2: don't know who the pupper tone is gonna be yet,

2141
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you this, If the Giants are putting

2142
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 2: as much emphasis on specials as I believe they are,

2143
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 2: because they want to win that part of the game

2144
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 2: every week, They're gonna need to decide early who those

2145
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 2: returnment are going to be. So I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 2: to that too. Hey.

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Speaker 1: Look, and again, we just haven't talked about him much today.

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Speaker 1: We haven't gotten any calls on him. We mentioned him

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Speaker 1: in the first segment, we haven't talked about him since. Look,

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Speaker 1: just judging jackson darts development, and I'm gonna caution people,

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Speaker 1: and it's the same thing I said before the spring.

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Speaker 1: Don't lose your mind over what a rookie quarterback does

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Speaker 1: in his first training camp.

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Speaker 2: Really tell me about it.

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Speaker 1: We've seen guys look like they might never be able

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Speaker 1: to play in the league and end up becoming really

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Speaker 1: good players. And that's in any position, not just quarterback,

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Speaker 1: with quarterbacks tougher than other positions, so even in trade,

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Speaker 1: even in preseason games, you'd much rather see him do

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Speaker 1: well than do poorly. Obviously, sure, but these opposing defenses

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Speaker 1: are very vanilla. They're not trying to fool you. You're

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Speaker 1: not playing in a real NFL game, so don't take

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Speaker 1: too much out of those either. But seeing him develop,

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable is a huge fan. He's a smart kid,

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Speaker 1: he's uber competitive. Giant fans will love his personality. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun to watch him develop.

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Speaker 1: Just remember the team and the coaches know a lot

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Speaker 1: more about how he's developing than we do watching practice

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Speaker 1: every day, and you do who maybe comes to one

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Speaker 1: practice and are just reading newspaper reports. So at some

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Speaker 1: point we're just gonna have to trust their evaluation of

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Speaker 1: when he's going to be ready and when he gets

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Speaker 1: into the starting line.

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Speaker 2: And all those lines. Don't be too disappointed if you

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Speaker 2: don't see a lot of him during the preseason. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it'll only take you know, a quarter or two. You

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Speaker 2: just don't know.

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Speaker 1: folks training camps starting a week. The NFL news is

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Speaker 1: starting to come fast and furious. We can't wait to

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