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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today is another very special episode

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Speaker 1: because I have not one, but two wonderful actors on

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Speaker 1: my show. Eliza Taylor and Bob Morley are best known

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Speaker 1: for their starring roles in the hit post apocalyptic sci

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Speaker 1: fi drama The Hundred. Now. The show ran for an

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Speaker 1: incredible seven seasons, and it catapulted this beautiful couple into

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Speaker 1: worldwide superstardom. And of course they have gone on to

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Speaker 1: do a bunch of other really incredible work. This is

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Speaker 1: a really cool episode because yes, we celebrate their work

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Speaker 1: that means so much to so many people, but also

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Speaker 1: we go deep. It is very rare that both Eliza

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Speaker 1: and Bob sit down for an interview together, and I

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Speaker 1: am truly grateful for their time and how open and

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Speaker 1: vulnerable that they both were. Today you were going to

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Speaker 1: learn more about the humans behind the characters that have

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Speaker 1: stolen your hearts for so many years. So let's see

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Speaker 1: if today we can get Eliza and Bob to say

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Speaker 1: something that they have never said before. Eliza and Bob,

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Speaker 1: how you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This is oh, I'm happy to have you. And this

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Speaker 1: is a treat. I know that the two of you

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Speaker 1: don't do a ton of this stuff, especially together, So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have fun. It's gonna be relaxing. And we're

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Speaker 1: all wearing the same shirt, so people are listening. They

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Speaker 1: can't see it right now, but we are all in

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Speaker 1: the white T shirt memo. So I already love you guys,

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Speaker 1: because you have clearly good style too.

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Speaker 3: You bought me the shit I did.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're looking good. You're looking good. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know where to begin, because the both of you are

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Speaker 1: such accomplished artists and actors, and you've done so many

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Speaker 1: things that people really love. Of course, one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest being The Hundred, which just catapulted the two of

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Speaker 1: you into this international little you know, fandom and superstardom

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better word. And it really really

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Speaker 1: became a show that meant so much to so many people.

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Speaker 1: And I can't believe ten years ago it premiered, which

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Speaker 1: and doing that show?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean I loved I loved that

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Speaker 2: show so much. It was such a huge, like moment

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Speaker 2: in our careers. I mean, I think, you know, the

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Speaker 2: I wish we could keep playing out those playing those

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Speaker 3: It's well to think that it was ten years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I like, I'm still quite surprised at how

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Speaker 4: like it seems to just be getting like continuing to

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Speaker 4: of the show that watched it in the last couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks. So yeah, that to me is like hugely surprising.

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Speaker 4: But it's like it's just an amazing thing. And I yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would love to go back and play Bellamy again.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I would totally go back and play

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Speaker 4: It's just it's like so surreal, especially when you like

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Speaker 4: just like straight trauma. It's the there's a funny thing

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Speaker 4: when you're in that genre and the stakes are so

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of joy to be found in that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so cool. And I hear people say that

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Speaker 1: may be. And I never fully understand that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess my mentality is, if it's something you've played

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Speaker 1: many people, why not always embrace that. And it seems

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Speaker 1: like you would embrace it as you.

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Speaker 2: Just said, Oh absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, the career that we've chosen is like such

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Speaker 4: a tricky one and like my most favorite place in

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Speaker 4: and I love that camaraderie that happens when you're on set.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing quite like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Eliza, for you, you played the network's first

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Speaker 1: you were. So what did wearing that badge of honor

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Speaker 2: Oh? It was incredible. I mean I think when and

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Speaker 2: when that development first came along for my character, I

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Speaker 2: For me, I mean, I've just grown up around, like

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Speaker 2: It just didn't seem like a something that wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: this is like this is a first CW. It was bizarre,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, but it was just incredible, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: It's something that I feel like we're getting more of now,

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Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, times have changed for the better.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't that long ago where playing an openly

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, And I mean when when we were

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Speaker 1: For you, what is something that you most learned about

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Speaker 1: yourself playing a role for you know, seven seasons? It's

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Speaker 4: I think one of the big takeaways was for such

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Speaker 4: And since leaving the show, it was. It became quite

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Speaker 3: They're kind of like the pillars.

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Speaker 4: But when you're working so hard, long hours on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just the congratulations on seven years, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like you kind of after working

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Speaker 4: But I was like, no, everything is stopped, So what

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Speaker 3: Obviously, when I'm in it, I absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Love it, but like I have to preserve a bit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That's an important message. I feel like it's in any career.

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Speaker 1: It's very hard to you know, if you love what

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Speaker 1: Or like how do you approach work and how do

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Speaker 2: I think on on the one hundred, especially like the

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Speaker 5: As one of the toughest, one of the toughest shows, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so I looking back now, I kind of go,

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Speaker 2: I think I for a lot of it. I was

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Speaker 4: To to yeah, and then like when you drive home

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Speaker 4: your learning lines for the next time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you just kind of like learn as much

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Speaker 2: And it was just like a hamster wheel, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I think it was the perfect time for me

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Speaker 2: anyway to do that, because I was in my twenties.

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Speaker 2: I had like that extra energy to burn. You know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could do it now.

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Speaker 3: It was a lie.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of work, and like, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I think especially when you get to the latter seasons

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Speaker 1: And good on you for knowing too, when you, as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he could very much be alive.

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Speaker 4: And then I go looking for you guys, and I

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 4: That's as far as i'm And they also they were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they shoot in Los Angeles. Suddenly the show

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Speaker 4: The other one whatever. The other one that I did

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Speaker 3: The end of book one. Oh.

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Speaker 2: There you go, thanks to think about it. I hope

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, stranger things have happened, so you know what.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to explain because you know, like for me,

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Speaker 2: I don't really know, like it's not something that we

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Speaker 2: It's always the two of us against the problem, not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we make.

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Speaker 4: Time for just every night we check in with each

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. Every night we say how is your day?

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Speaker 4: I know that for both of us, we work on

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Speaker 1: And I come from the mentality I've been married for

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Speaker 1: little to no drama I would see in my relationship,

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00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: and that's not normalized. It's like, oh, I had a

443
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: fight and this person was on the couch or they

444
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: stormed out and the door slam and I'm like, it

445
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be like that. I kind of get

446
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: the vibe. You guys are like that too.

447
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think life frozen after I'm

448
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: or at you, right, But yeah, I'd rather be working

449
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: with you sorting through just life drama, the creating creating it.

450
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because the two of you have worked together

451
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: so much and have spent so much time in your

452
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: relationship together. It's a testament to truly the foundation that

453
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: you guys have. And you know, Eliza, I know you've

454
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: been a part of Quantum Leap, which people are loving,

455
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that experience has been great. And you know,

456
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: Bob in Limbo is another fan favorite that people are

457
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: talking about. I see them. When I announced it was

458
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: my guest, people were saying, ask him about in Limbo

459
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: and Limbo's he going back? So how have other projects

460
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: outside of the hundred been for the two of you?

461
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: And will we see you working again as well together?

462
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: I'd love that. I'd love to work together again.

463
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 4: She's my absolute all time favorite scene and yeah, best friend.

464
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: The only thing that would give me pause about working

465
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 4: together is like both of us being away from Henry Rights.

466
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: You know, it's been an interesting journey since becoming parents

467
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: and both of us having careers and wanting to do

468
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: this job or that job.

469
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, well one of us is going to

470
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: go away, all the other stays.

471
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: So when I was doing and in Limbo, yeah, and

472
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 4: I was away for like five six months and that

473
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: was really tough, and then you were doing constantly and

474
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: so I.

475
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: Was like happy to kind of stay at home.

476
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

477
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: So it's been a new challenge being parents, wanting to

478
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,479
Speaker 4: have the careers as well as being there for the family.

479
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

480
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of an ongoing process and we're just

481
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: we have to take it sort of case by case,

482
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: job by job, like how's this going to work this time?

483
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 2: You know?

484
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 4: Do you ever feel like when we were both auditioning

485
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 4: for stuff, but you're like, oh, I get.

486
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: This one before Bob.

487
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: Sometimes yeah, so I get to do.

488
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: In the next one. Yeah.

489
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: No, But I mean in terms of it would be perfect,

490
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: like if Bob got the next one, because I've just

491
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: had my time on qunstumt lyp, so I feel like

492
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: it's his turn.

493
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: But how have you felt it going from the hundred

494
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: and then jumping on into another show?

495
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was so cool to do another

496
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: sci fi I just I love it. It's weird because

497
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: I never, like, I never particularly enjoyed watching sci fi

498
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: until I started doing it, and now I'm into it.

499
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, to go on to another sci fi show

500
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: to be able to play such a badass woman like I.

501
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 4: I love it.

502
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: I thought you were great in that. I was always

503
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: so excited when I know.

504
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: He'd hit me and go, that's my that's my lady,

505
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: that's my lady. You know.

506
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 4: Actually, this is what I was thinking, is that you

507
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 4: always wanted I feel like our positive like crossed over

508
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: and gone in the opposite ways, Like you wanted to

509
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 4: do romance in comedy and I just wanted to keep

510
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 4: doing sci fi. Yeah, and you've done sci fi and

511
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 4: I've done romance in comedy.

512
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.

513
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: So now we need a blend of all of them

514
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: for your next project together there you go, yeah.

515
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why let's put it out there.

516
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: Sci fi, romcom Yeah yeah, well, rock on it. It's

517
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: awesome to see you guys still doing different interesting projects,

518
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I have no doubt more and more

519
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: will becoming your ways. Do you think it's hard to

520
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: take a step back with what you do and give

521
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: yourself the flowers and to say, wow, like, I'm really

522
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: successful in this business and a business that a lot

523
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: of people dream of being in. And it's not easy

524
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: to do let alone, you know, one show, but to

525
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: keep working and to be on a show that is

526
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: seven seasons and all the things you've accomplished, Like, do

527
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: you both realize that, like Eliza is it is it

528
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: strange for you to be like, I've done all this

529
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: or you kind of constantly like what's next? What's next? Oh,

530
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: my guard, I have to prove myself even more.

531
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that. I you know, it

532
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: is difficult. I think, especially since becoming parents, we've realized

533
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: how much of a gamble this industry is. You know,

534
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: when it's just you out there in your twenties hustling,

535
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: you're like, you know, you just you don't really think

536
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: about it. But now it's you know, there's a great

537
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: responsibility to provide for a family, and that has added

538
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: a pressure that I never really experienced before. But I do,

539
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: like you know, I journal. We both do journal every morning,

540
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: and it's a good opportunity to take a step back

541
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: and go, you know, when things feel like you know,

542
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: when you have those thoughts of I'm never going to

543
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: work again, maybe my best days are behind me, you know,

544
00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: to just go, look what you've accomplished, and this isn't

545
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: the end. You know, you're just in a little you're

546
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: in the messy middle right now. So yeah, it can be.

547
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: You can get a little existential about the industry, especially

548
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: with you know, just the pandemic and then the strikes

549
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: and all of the things that are completely out of

550
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: our control. But no, we have had such an incredible

551
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: career thus far, and we know that there's plenty more

552
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: to come.

553
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: I have to agree with that in terms of like

554
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: stopping and you know, saying you've done a good job.

555
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: I think that that's not just true of our industry,

556
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: but it's I think that's true of most people that

557
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: you know. I don't think that enough people give themselves

558
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 4: credit for a lot of things.

559
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: You know.

560
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 4: And recently I got nominated for an actor in Australia,

561
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: which is like kind of a big deal, and I

562
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I'm not going to go to the

563
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: awards here. I mean, I don't have times now, I'm

564
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: playing it all. I was like, yeah, whatever, But like

565
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: it actually did, like really mean a lot to me.

566
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: But it always kind of been like, yeah, you know,

567
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: it's whatever, and I don't need to go. And then

568
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 4: I was seeing all these images of people that I

569
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: knew or getting together and like having a great time

570
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: celebrating celebrating yeah, and I was like, actually, it is

571
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: kind of you know, I'm not the awards, but like

572
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: it's important to celebrate these things that you've achieved or

573
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 4: you've done. And I don't know that people might think

574
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 4: like acting awards in themselves or is a bit superflul

575
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: of us, but I think at least getting around your

576
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: your your peers and saying hey, you know, like we're

577
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: likely to be here, congratulations, whatever it is, and just

578
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: to yeah, be that support network in an industry that

579
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: is so tough could be a nice thing. Yes, yeah,

580
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to make space for being proud of

581
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: myself in that aspects, but yeah, it's not something that

582
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: I had thought about previously.

583
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Well, what I love about the two of you is

584
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: you don't go through life acting like you have all

585
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: the answers, you know, everything, that you are at the

586
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 1: peak of your mental health, that nothing can bring you

587
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: down right. And I think that what I'm most interested

588
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: in with human to human connection is that as beautiful

589
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: as a life may seem from the outside, we all

590
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: still go through our own shit. And it's something that

591
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: I've gotten more comfortable sharing over the years, not fully,

592
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: but like definitely more than a few years ago. And

593
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: I think it's the day and age we live in

594
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: where mental health, man, it's a crisis. And I like

595
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: that the two of you take time to work on

596
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: your own mental health. We talked about, Bob how at

597
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: the end of season seven you need a time for

598
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: yourself and how you work on yourselves during your marriage.

599
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: Is there like one main thing that each of you

600
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: does to really make sure that you're in line with

601
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: your health.

602
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I read a gratitude list every morning,

603
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: you know, and I've noticed, I've really noticed it, just

604
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: like I feel I don't know why, but saying that

605
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: is I feel embarrassed, like, well, could it a gratitude list?

606
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: That's what the voice in my head tells me. What,

607
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, what could that possibly do? But I do

608
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: know that if I don't write that for a few

609
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: days or a week or even two weeks, I start

610
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: to feel just schoolrely, not right, like a little NQR.

611
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why don't I feel good? And you know,

612
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: it's just these little things that don't that might not

613
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: seem like a big deal, that really keep me, yeah,

614
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: in a place of gratitude and and keep me hopeful

615
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: and happy. So my gratitude list journaling. That was something

616
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: that Bob has been doing ever since we got married,

617
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: but I only started doing it about a year ago

618
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: and making sure I do it every morning, and that

619
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: really keeps me in check as well. I think these

620
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: little morning rituals of like, you know, no matter what's

621
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: going on at the breakfast table, if Henry's having a tantrum, whatever,

622
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: it's like, go do your writing.

623
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: I've got this.

624
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: And we do that for each other every morning, and

625
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: it's just that time like Bob sages and does his

626
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, he rings his bell and he has like

627
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: his little ritual and you know that sort of thing.

628
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: Just having these routines for me anyway, it's just so.

629
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: Important, I think carving out that bit of time for

630
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: yourself to kind of take a breath and kind of

631
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: set your intentions for the day.

632
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah as well and.

633
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: Going you know, and he used today to reframe situations

634
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: that may make me feel uncomfortable or whatever. It is

635
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: just kind of having that, whether you follow it to

636
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 4: a teeth through other day, it's like, at least I'm

637
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: setting this intention to do this thing. Exercises another huge

638
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 4: part of keeping things in balance for me and to

639
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: be honest, one huge heart that I always feel a

640
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: bit lost when I struggled to have disability. But is daydreaming.

641
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: I love daydreaming. I love going on Zelo and daydreaming

642
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: about buying houses. And I know that it's just so stupid,

643
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: but it's just like, oh, this is fun. And I

644
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: love to day dream. And it's sad those days when

645
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't feel like day dreaming, I get

646
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: really sad.

647
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I love to day dream.

648
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're like the three Kindred Spirits. I

649
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: just sent one of my best friends of video. My

650
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: husband and I were walking and we passed this beautiful

651
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: apartment complex in Manhattan. I'm not too far from where

652
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: we live, and I'm like, oh my god. This place

653
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: has a fountain. It looks like Europe. There's a courtyard.

654
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: So he pulled up zillow. We found the price and

655
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: triaked and I'm like, but you know what, we can dream?

656
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: And I said my friend, I'm like, one day, one day.

657
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: So yes, I subscribe to daydream all day, every day.

658
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Why not. It's a beautiful thing. So, as you two know,

659
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: the name of the show is I've never said this before,

660
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: and yes, I love bringing on fan favorite artists and

661
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: diving into the work and celebrating that. But I also

662
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: love real human connection, and I cover a lot of

663
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: red carpets and movie premieeres where I get three minutes

664
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: with somebody and I'm like, all right, this, this is

665
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: fine and fun, but it's not real, Like it's not

666
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: a real conversation, which is how this show was born.

667
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, given all the interviews you've done and

668
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: how open you've been today, you know as well, if

669
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: there is something that the two of you have not

670
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: ever said before.

671
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I was aware of the title of the show,

672
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: so I have been thinking about it, and it's kind

673
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: of a scary idea to say something that I've never

674
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: said before. But the first thing that came to mind

675
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: for me was the fact that I've never talked about

676
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: postpartum depression. And after Henry was born, I had a

677
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: really dark year. The insidious and bizarre thing about postpartum

678
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: is that you well, for me anyway, I really didn't

679
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: realize that I had it, so I didn't know what

680
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: was wrong with me. I didn't know how to ask

681
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: for help, and there's so much stigma about postpartum, which

682
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: is kind of infuriating because it didn't make me a

683
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: bad mother. It made me just a shell of myself

684
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: in you know, like when I was I could mother,

685
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: I could look after Henry efficiently. But when I was

686
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: once he'd go to bed, or when I was alone,

687
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: it got really dark. It got really dark for me

688
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: in the way that I didn't I didn't know who

689
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: I was anymore. I didn't feel like myself. I was

690
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: just kind of moving through life, feeling numb. And it

691
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: lasted a whole year. It wasn't until so we moved

692
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: back to Australia and Bob was working on Love Me

693
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: and in Limbo, so we moved back to be close

694
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: to him, but also to have family around. But it

695
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: was just bizarre that we were. You know, I was here,

696
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: I was with my beautiful baby, surrounded by my parents

697
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: and my parents in law and aunties and uncles and

698
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: brothers and sisters, and I felt so completely alone. And

699
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: I just wanted to put that out there and talk

700
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: about that, because you know, if there is anyone listening

701
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: who feels that way, there is help out there. There

702
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: are so many resources, There are so many free communities

703
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: on zoom online four postpartum and just even if you

704
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: don't know if that's what you have, just jump into

705
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: a mother's group or something where you can connect with

706
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: other mums who are going through the same thing. Because

707
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: I wish i'd done it sooner. I wish that I

708
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: had just stopped and checked in with my body and said, oh,

709
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm really struggling, you know, and if this can help

710
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: some other mom out, like even DM me, you shouldn't

711
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: be going through this alone. I want to help. Yeah,

712
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: so I wanted to talk about that.

713
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that. That's I think a

714
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: really important message. I know a lot of leadies in

715
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: my life who have gone through something similar and don't

716
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: feel comfortable talking about it. So I think you're going

717
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: to encourage a lot of people to share. And before

718
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: we get to you, Bob, as a quick follow up,

719
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: if somebody's listening and thinks, I don't know if that's me,

720
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, or am I just having a bad

721
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: day and it's not postpartum. When you say you didn't

722
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: feel right, you didn't feel good, you had some dark days,

723
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: what did that feel like? Did you feel like you

724
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: were a bad mom? Every day or what do you

725
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: mean by that?

726
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: I felt like I'd completely lost my identity. I felt

727
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: like I didn't know who I was anymore, And in turn,

728
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: I felt like the worst mother in the world. I

729
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: felt like I'd been wanting to be a mom my

730
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: whole life and to not be enjoying it was a

731
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: sin in some way. And it's just really, really hard

732
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: that your hormones are going through. One of the most

733
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: epic changes we ever experienced in our lives is giving birth.

734
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: The drop in hormones is so huge, and we just like,

735
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: I didn't have that information.

736
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for you, like because as your partner

737
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: who was there, I think you were always putting on

738
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: a breath a great face, and so I and as

739
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: a new dad, was just like swimming in like how

740
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 4: can I help?

741
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: What can I do?

742
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 4: And you know, having my own anxieties about being apparent.

743
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: But it wasn't until you felt like you were out

744
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: of it that you could actually speak.

745
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 3: To me about it.

746
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: Yes, it wasn't, so I didn't. I wasn't really fully aware.

747
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: I just thought, well, Henry didn't sleep for a whole year,

748
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 4: for thirteen months, so I just thought we were just

749
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 4: really tired.

750
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

751
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the sleep deprivation as well, you know, plays

752
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: a big part in it. He only slept in two

753
00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: hour increments for a year, so just not Yeah, we.

754
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: Were not all there, so you didn't know. You didn't

755
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: know during that whole year. So were you, Eliza? Were

756
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: you almost embarrassed to share it with him? Yeah?

757
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: I really I was embarrassed. I was ashamed. I was

758
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: ashamed to be feeling anything but joy. I thought, that's

759
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: all I was supposed to be feeling. And this magical

760
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: moment in my life where I've had my first child,

761
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: and that's just not it.

762
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: And to be fair as well, like I was struggling

763
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: with because I wanted to help and I could see that,

764
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: you know, like you have to feed him like it.

765
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 4: Mum is the most important mum is you know, women

766
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: are incredible and mum is the most important part of

767
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: the family. And so I was kind of struggling with

768
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: coming to grips with how can I help when Henry

769
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: all he wants is you What can I do to help?

770
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 4: And I was having my own crisis. So I think

771
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: simultaneously we're both struggling with our own stuff, and neither

772
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 4: of us wanted to keep.

773
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: Onto the other exactly.

774
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I think, you know, that's probably

775
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 4: why I missed it as well, or I struggling with

776
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 4: my own stuff as well, you know, And it kind

777
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 4: of comes back to us working as a couple, you know,

778
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: when we can kind of look back at stuff. It

779
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: was only when Henry started sleeping that we'll be able

780
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: to we're able to start unpacking the year of new parenthood,

781
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: you know, right right, it's.

782
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Not crazy, It really was crazy.

783
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for opening up about that. I know

784
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: that's that's something very personal, and you share that today

785
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: to help the greater good. And I really respect that

786
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: and admire that in you, and I think that you're

787
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: going to help a lot of people feel less shame

788
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: and maybe embarrassment, as we've talked about, by embracing that

789
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: this could be the reality. So I appreciate you for

790
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: sharing that. Thank you for sharing that, And for you, Bob,

791
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: is there anything you would like to share today?

792
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, my brain kind of runs really fast,

793
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: and there was probably about like six different things that

794
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: I wanted to speak about, and I was like, maybe

795
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: something will come up when it comes to When he

796
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: asked me.

797
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: But you know, I think there's there's something.

798
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: That I've actually never really talked that much about, and

799
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: you and I kind of talk about a little bit.

800
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 4: I think my entire life, I've struggled with a form

801
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: of body dysmorphia. Like I train so much, like I

802
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: was saying, exercise a huge part of my own mental health,

803
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 4: and sometimes it's probably too much. And like these battles

804
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 4: that I have in the morning, Like let's say I

805
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: get up and then I work out. I'm like, you

806
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 4: look great, You're like, you feel great, I'm looking great,

807
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: everything like that. Then I have lunch and then I'm like,

808
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: you're a slob, You're this, You're that. I don't want

809
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 4: to see what I look like. I'm going to wear,

810
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: you know, like baggy shirts and go to bed in

811
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: normal clothes. And it's brutal, like the back and forth

812
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: of this kind of body dysmorphia, and then like the

813
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: comparison to other people and you're algorithms, Like my algorithm

814
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: on Instagram is basically just calisthenics because I do rock climbing,

815
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: and it's just like it's incessant this idea of what

816
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to look like and in my entire life,

817
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 4: Like even when I was a teenager, Like you know,

818
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: I had an eating disorder, but I'd just be training

819
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 4: all the time and just not fueling it right and

820
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: doing this, that and the other. And it's it's I

821
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: don't you know, like I don't know the answer to it.

822
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: It's something that I have to work on and learn

823
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 4: to be kind to myself about.

824
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: But you know, like I think that it comes.

825
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 4: In many different forms, and there's like just trying to

826
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: find that piece within yourself like that on top of

827
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: all the other things that I have, you know, like

828
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: mood disorders and whatnot, this is.

829
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: One that is a constant thing each day.

830
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 4: It is, and you know, partly maybe because of the

831
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: industry we're in and this, that and the other, But

832
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think it is. I think a lot

833
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: of people will go through this on a day to

834
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: day basis, like and it doesn't. It's unrelenting, this kind

835
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 4: of perception of self. And so I don't know what.

836
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: I what I want to say to it, but I

837
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: just I guess when I.

838
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 4: Say that, yeah, like I think we're all going through

839
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: that struggle and it'd be just nice to give ourselves

840
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: some grace, but yeah, it is something for me.

841
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: It's something that I've definitely witnessed a lot over the years,

842
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: obviously because it is a daily battle. But he'll be

843
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: looking like he'll literally be looking at himself in the

844
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: mirror and seeing something that isn't there, you know, and

845
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: I just go, what are you talking about? You're so

846
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: fit and beautiful.

847
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 4: But I think it's even similar, like you're you know,

848
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure you've had this experience where you're like, look

849
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: through photos from like a year ago, Yeah, I look

850
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: good there right at that time you're like not good enough.

851
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not this enough, not bad enough.

852
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what I want to say

853
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: to it, but it's just like, yeah, like it's a

854
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: it's a real struggle when even in your own mind,

855
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: when you look back at what you were like maybe

856
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: you know, four or five weeks ago, you're like, actually.

857
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: That's not tooper bad. Yeah, yeah, nothing is changing those

858
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: four or five weeks. But it's like, why can't give

859
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: yourself that grisi?

860
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And maybe it's some sort of plucked as you

861
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: mind Brian about that stuff, but.

862
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you sharing that, you know, as as

863
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: another dude, because I think a men don't really talk

864
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: about that, and you know, a lot of what is

865
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: talked about is how women's bodies are so unfairly critiqued

866
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: and judged, which is true. I mean, nobody should ever

867
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: comment on a woman's body, like, get the fuck out

868
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: of here, right, Sorry I said it, But men also

869
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: do have to deal with it, not to that extent,

870
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: but like, you know, if you're somebody super into health

871
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: and fitness and you work on yourself like I have,

872
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: people be like, oh you look too bulky, Oh you

873
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: look too thin, Oh have you lost weight? Oh look

874
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Speaker 1: you're looking a little skinny, And it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: people do comment on your bodies and let alone the

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Speaker 1: voices you have in your own head. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's you know, I think it's important to bring away

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Speaker 1: to the fact that, if anything, we all judge ourselves

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Speaker 1: maybe a little unfairly, and I think that we should

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Speaker 1: have a little more compassion towards one another as well

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Speaker 1: in terms of what we say about each other, because

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Speaker 1: public opinions are out there and I'm not saying you

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Speaker 1: can't have one, but like, I don't think bodies should

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Speaker 1: ever be a topic for men. Or women period. I don't.

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Speaker 1: And I say that in the sense of like if

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Speaker 1: you're doing a men's health workout and you're doing an

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Speaker 1: article and an interview, that's one thing, like yes, you're

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Speaker 1: celebrating fitness, you're showing your routine. But I mean like

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Speaker 1: unsolicited opinions that are negative, we don't need them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Like I was saying, like I had like multiple things

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Speaker 4: that I could have talked about, but that one's just

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Speaker 4: kind of came to mind.

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Speaker 1: No, And I like that one. I really like that one, Robbit.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you bringing that one up because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: a lot of dudes don't talk about that, and a

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00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of us have gone through it at different periods

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Speaker 1: of our lives and maybe still do. So I think

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Speaker 1: that it's it's an important thing for us to raise

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Speaker 1: awareness about because of what you said, is maybe that

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Speaker 1: we can be a little gentler with ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, maybe there is that thing.

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Speaker 4: Maybe what I'm even just having talked about it now,

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Speaker 4: there's like sure, like you can be gentle to yourself.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to like look at myself in the

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Speaker 4: mirror and say you're slob, like we're on the path

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Speaker 4: to getting to where you you know you want to be.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take time or whatever. Not that I

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Speaker 3: feel like and I do. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I know you, I know what you're saying. I hear

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Speaker 1: it loud and clear. I think. I think it's very

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Speaker 1: very cool that you shared that. And what I'm taking

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Speaker 1: away from that is exactly what I just said. Be

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Speaker 1: more gentle with yourself, have a little compassion with yourself,

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Speaker 1: like we do for so many other people. And you

918
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Speaker 1: know and realize that sometimes when you think it's not

919
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: good enough, it is, and it's it's a work in progress. Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to leave like I'm having so much

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00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: fun with the two of you. I think it's flown

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Speaker 1: by I know, and I feel like I'm I'm always

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Speaker 1: full of gratitude when I walk away from a conversation. Yes,

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00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: like I said, it's fun, it's celebratory. We dive into

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00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: the projects and the work, but then we also really

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00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: get to connect on some human stuff. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's when this crazy world we live in can feel

928
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Speaker 1: a little less alone, and people can feel a little

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Speaker 1: bit more seen. And like we're all in this together.

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Speaker 1: And I honestly I thank the both of you for

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Speaker 1: being so open and vulnerable and real today and having

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Speaker 1: a great conversation. I loved it. I could talk for

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Speaker 1: four more hours and I'm so fulfilled after chatting with

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Speaker 1: you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you being such an authentic and

936
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: genuine guys. Yeah, testament to the show doing so well.

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Speaker 3: So thanks y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're such a lot, Tommy. Just every time when

939
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: we speak, I'm like, yeah, you know, like you you are,

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Speaker 2: Just You're a lot. So thank you. Thanks for having us.

941
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you both so much, and we will

942
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: follow along your adventures. Best place to follow along social media.

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00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty bad at it.

944
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: How do we find you guys?

945
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: But if i'm instantly I'll let you know on social media.

946
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah it's Oh.

947
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: You can currently see me on in on Love Me

948
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: and in Limbo on Pulu.

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00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can see my face on Peacock on

950
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: Quantum Leap season two.

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00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: Oh you can go back over. Yeah, we could watch

952
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 3: that again if you really need to see us.

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00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then otherwise we're on the in.

954
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Speaker 1: Stuff on the insta. All right, the two of you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you again until we meet the next time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me, Tommy Dedario.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Publisi at iHeartRadio

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00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've

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Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran

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