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Speaker 2: Welcome to Pepsi Giants extra Point, everybody. John Schmuck alongside

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Casius. The New York Giants fall to the New

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Speaker 2: York Jets in overtime thirteen to ten. Jonathan, one of

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Speaker 2: the strangest football games I've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 2: The Giants lose Tyrod Taylor at the end of half

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Speaker 2: number one. Then from the nine minute and eight second

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Speaker 2: mark in the third quarter until the overtime period, the

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Speaker 2: Giants did not attempt to pass, yet they were still

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Speaker 2: in position to win this football game. They get the

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Speaker 2: ball back after forcing a turnover on downs from the

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Speaker 2: Jets in the fourth quarter of this game. The Giants

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Speaker 2: get the ball back in Jets territory on the Jets

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Speaker 2: twenty six yard line with one twenty six remaining. The

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Speaker 2: Jets with two timeouts. Barkley runs it up the middle,

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Speaker 2: gets six yards. He seemed to want to slide down.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if Heast lit a little bit early. I'm

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Speaker 2: curious to see what he says about that in the

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Speaker 2: postgame interview, which we'll hear from in a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Then Barkley runs for one. Barkley runs for two.

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Speaker 2: Giants have it fourth and one at the Jets seventeen

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Speaker 2: yard line with just twenty eight seconds to go. Rather

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Speaker 2: than trying to go for it there, they attempt a

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Speaker 2: thirty five yard field goal, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 2: probably would have done the same thing. Graham good O

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Speaker 2: misses that field goal. Jets get the ball back. They

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Speaker 2: complete a deep pass over the middle for twenty nine

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Speaker 2: yards to Garrett Wilson, which would have been fine if

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Speaker 2: Kaevon Thibodau did not come in an off sides penalty

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Speaker 2: which stops the clock. The Jets get one more play.

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Speaker 2: They could complete a twenty nine yard pass over the

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Speaker 2: middle of Allen Lazard. They do a great job sprinting

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Speaker 2: to the ball to spike it. I gotta give the

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Speaker 2: officials credit there too. They sprinted down the field to

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Speaker 2: touch it to give him time to spike it and

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Speaker 2: they end up kicking a field goal from thirty five

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Speaker 2: yards out from Greggs are Lined to put the game

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Speaker 2: in the overtime. Giants go three and out after an

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Speaker 2: offensive holding penalty short circuits their first drive, and then

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Speaker 2: the Jets get the ball back a big pass from

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson to Garrett Wilson for eleven yards on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: There was a defensive passing appearance interference on the play

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Speaker 2: as well, when Deontay Banks falls down and grabs Wilson's leg,

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Speaker 2: he powers to a first down, and then the Jets

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Speaker 2: go deep down the right sideline to Malik Taylor. He

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Speaker 2: gets he beats Dori Jackson deep gets behind them, pass

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Speaker 2: and then Greggs are Line wins the game with a

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Speaker 2: thirty three yard field goal on the following play. I

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Speaker 2: just wanted the Gift fans the idea that maybe didn't

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Speaker 2: see the game exactly what happened at the end, because

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Speaker 2: it was wild. Your overall take on what we just witnessed.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you saw a lot of bad football

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Speaker 4: being played by two football teams.

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Speaker 3: Neither one looked like they wanted to win the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you have one football team that may

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Speaker 4: plays at the end of the game when it mattered most.

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Speaker 4: And look, I thought, you have brilliant performances, especially when

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Speaker 4: you look at defensively from both sides, offensive struggles from

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Speaker 4: both sides. I thought sa Quon looked brilliant at times.

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Speaker 4: I thought Breis Hall looked brilliant at times. A very

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Speaker 2: And again, Giants had their practice squad quarterback in there

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Speaker 2: for the second half. Yeah, and they only threw one

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Speaker 4: Right, and you know, just trying to give my overall

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Speaker 4: analysis of the games. The game, you know, but at

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Speaker 4: the end, the Jets, they made the plays in the

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Speaker 4: situations that were crucial to win the football game. You know,

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Speaker 4: that's fourth quarter, that's overtime. The Giants did not decision

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Speaker 4: making plays, penalties, things that we've talked about, you know,

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Speaker 4: today and at times defensively looked brilliant today and.

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Speaker 3: In fact, JC the way they were playing in the

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Speaker 2: Year, once they got that touchdown in the second half

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Speaker 2: and got that ten to seven lead, they figured, our

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Speaker 2: defense has been so good. As long as we don't

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Speaker 3: And you know what, they were right, Yep, Yes, the strategy.

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Speaker 2: Actually would have worked. And you know, I said earlier,

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Speaker 2: I think maybe that was a little strong with that,

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to get on Kvon too much

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Speaker 2: on the first overtime play, basically short circuit of that

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough, right, And it.

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Speaker 2: Was just a situation where a couple mistakes when you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but look, there's a couple fourth down plays where

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Speaker 4: Like you know, and for me it's like trying to

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Speaker 4: this New York Giants team really is. I think last

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Speaker 4: And now you know, it's it's a collective effort of

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Speaker 4: better job collectively because this is not a one play loss.

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Speaker 4: This is not a one play a one missed field

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Speaker 4: goal loss. It's a collective effort in a crucial situation

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game that ended up, you know,

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Speaker 6: How were doing there, he goes, We got.

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Speaker 7: Coach, I you summed up what happened out there today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, disappointing loss.

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Speaker 8: You explained the decision there and like the grand field goal,

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Speaker 8: knock going for it if.

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Speaker 9: You want into that, Yeah, kick a field goal there.

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Speaker 9: Then they have twenty four seconds with no timeouts and

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Speaker 9: they need a touchdown. So counted that I'm making the

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Speaker 9: field goal, then they'd have twenty four seconds but no

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Speaker 9: that's why I made the decision the flips just to

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Speaker 9: say there's always a flip side. Yep, I understand what

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Speaker 9: it is the game.

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Speaker 10: It still doesn't end the game, right, you had a

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Speaker 10: chance to why not take the opportunity there to end

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Speaker 9: Getting the one year Yeah, I mean, hindsight, I understand

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Speaker 9: the question completely, legit question, but that's a decision that

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Speaker 9: we made to try to kick a field goal a

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Speaker 9: Graham and our defense was you know, they were like,

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Speaker 9: oh for twelve and third down, they were playing really good, and.

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Speaker 6: That's a decision we made. It didn't work out.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't GAM's Graham healthy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, grahams Graham's all.

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Speaker 11: Right, right, wouldn't trust in your defense and building you

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Speaker 11: didn't go work?

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Speaker 12: What's that that type of situation?

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Speaker 7: Trust in your defense?

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Speaker 6: Well, then then they need a field goal to tie.

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Speaker 9: I mean, there's so many different things if they go

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Speaker 9: down and get a field goal. We didn't get it.

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Speaker 9: You know, I felt comfortable with what we talked about.

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Speaker 6: Didn't work out and disappointed coature.

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Speaker 11: What was the real plan behind Tobby to beat in

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Speaker 11: the last two weeks, because it seems as though you

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Speaker 11: didn't trust him on the field. If that's the case,

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Speaker 11: then you know, he didn't throw a lot. Why did

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Speaker 11: because Tyron is not necessarily you know, he's not He's

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Speaker 11: he's very familiar with injury.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd say this this game, I kind of figured

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Speaker 9: So we were we were going to run the ball

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Speaker 9: a four worth quarter game. So that's you know, felt

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Speaker 9: comfortable with him obviously running to the offense. But again,

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Speaker 9: the plan was, you know, we were gonna keep it

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Speaker 9: and based on how we thought the game was was

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Speaker 9: going to be played out. And it played out pretty

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Speaker 6: Just came up short.

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Speaker 7: How was Tyrud doing? Is he's back here?

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Speaker 6: No, he went he went to the hospital.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I have I don't have any update on George,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how a us to you know, bottle them up

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Speaker 7: What do you tell what the guys acted with, what's

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Speaker 6: Yeah? So it was a tough loss. So one hurts.

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Speaker 10: What do you think was the problem that the passing

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Speaker 6: We we ran it almost every play, so like that?

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Speaker 9: I thought our defense was gonna play well, figured to

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Speaker 6: You know, a little bit of an old school away today, Brian,

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Speaker 7: Not ready, what's you're playing.

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Speaker 14: For quarterback next week?

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Speaker 6: Well I can't give it to you right now.

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Speaker 7: What do you think when Matt Barker and even.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we'll talk about that stuff tomorrow we sit

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Speaker 6: It's a tough loss.

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Speaker 3: There were times where it looked like sat One was

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Speaker 15: What did you think of how he did play today?

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Speaker 9: No, he played hard. I mean I told you guys

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Speaker 9: You know, we drove down there was a long drive

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Speaker 6: And it just didn't work out.

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Speaker 10: But you've been around the game for a while. Have

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Speaker 10: did you They're all disappointing. Yeah, every loss is disappointing.

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Speaker 12: You got any defense all day?

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Speaker 16: How stunned were you that they were able to get

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they did a good job. Give him credit? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: What was the feeling in the locker room afterwards? From

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Speaker 6: Disappointed?

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Speaker 7: Fourth than one the second quarter or you take that points.

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Speaker 9: We're trying to get points then, So when we got

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Speaker 6: You know, we're gonna we're gonna take points. So it

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Speaker 8: You said, you Graham is good. I mean he thinking

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Speaker 8: to Arthur he needs surgery on his left knee. Do

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. I don't know going into it, we

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Speaker 7: Did losing Waller early affect any of your game planning?

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Speaker 9: Anytime you lose a good player to affects your game plan, Sure,

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Speaker 9: you run down to one tight end, and Marcus played

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Speaker 6: But that's not an excuse. We we just we didn't

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Speaker 14: Going to be lost for several weeks.

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Speaker 6: I have no idea it does.

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Speaker 8: An offense sometimes needs you to put comments in them

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Speaker 3: I think it's that that intangible part of a decision.

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Speaker 17: Like that at all.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, look that I made a decision I thought was

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Speaker 6: That's why I'll always make them coach.

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Speaker 14: Have you recognized that some of those decisions of lest

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Speaker 11: Been going back to Buffalo kind of like the difference

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Speaker 7: You can continue the moment.

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Speaker 9: Every decision that you make, you try to make for

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Speaker 6: That's what we'll always do.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes it doesn't work out, you know, so I accept

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Speaker 6: That's what you need to do. So it didn't work out.

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Speaker 9: You know, we still had you know, a few seconds

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Speaker 7: How do you think Tommy handled himself obviously, you know first.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we had obviously we handed off a bunch,

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Speaker 6: But didn't We didn't throw it much obviously.

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Speaker 18: How much a reflection of the game plan in the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I would say it was a collective how

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Speaker 6: And you know, we had a couple of little actions.

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Speaker 9: Here there that we we we won me through one

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Speaker 6: And they, you know, they did an outstanding job on

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Speaker 9: You know, we were backed up three times, I think,

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Speaker 9: It to them in a backed up field, a short field,

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Speaker 6: So we were playing i'd say a conservative game. It

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Speaker 8: Two and six trade deadlines two to the way. Does

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Speaker 8: that where you guys stand, You've got effectsalo.

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Speaker 6: Axt understand a question. I'm I'm not there yet to

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Speaker 14: Dan, what do you what do you ownership think today's

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Speaker 7: Talked about.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll keep, I'll keep all that stuff that we

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Speaker 9: So when you lose, that's uh, it's just pointing.

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Speaker 6: But good conversations, normal conversations.

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Speaker 2: That is Brian Dable at the podium after the game,

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Speaker 2: And to me, the conversation comes down to one simple thing.

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Speaker 2: crux of the conversation, right, And whichever one you think

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Speaker 2: you have a better chance of completing, that's what you're

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Speaker 2: I think those are all the things that you're going

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Speaker 2: And I don't think a fourth and one is a

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Speaker 3: Hey Bob, Papa, welcome back.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, not a listen against his Jets defense. I mean

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Speaker 5: You kicked the field.

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Speaker 19: You just gave a guy, aw, you gave him a

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Speaker 19: new contract this offseason. I agree with you, because he

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Speaker 19: only missed three kicks last year.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what he missed.

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Speaker 19: I mean last year, Gano was as automatic as you

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Speaker 19: and one was blocked. So he only missed two kicks

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Speaker 4: But when you when you look at a situation like this, right,

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Speaker 5: I see.

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Speaker 3: I think it depends what the dealer has.

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Speaker 5: But but you understand what I'm saying, though.

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Speaker 19: Dude, you can't let the other team with no timeouts

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Speaker 2: And if you don't commit that penalty, they don't. But

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Speaker 2: if if, if it's what penalty the off sides came on.

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Speaker 20: Think you gave him five more yards.

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Speaker 2: Well, you stopped the clock. That was the bigger point

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Speaker 2: of to stop the clock. Anyway, Tommy DeVito was going

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Speaker 3: Let's listen in.

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito heading to the podium getting ready for the

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Speaker 2: Giants then practice squad quarterback. He got called up into

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Speaker 19: And I want to get back to that tivod thing

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Speaker 2: No, they completed the pass and the clock would have

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Speaker 3: Here's Tommy DeVito.

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Speaker 15: God, tell me what was today like for you?

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Speaker 21: A lot of emotions. I wish it would have ended,

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Speaker 21: you know, better to fulfill those emotions. But you know,

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Speaker 15: I was going through grunds, saw Tyrod kind of down,

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Speaker 21: Yeah, hoping that he's healthy, you know, and everything's going well.

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Speaker 21: You know, I don't have any updates with that or anything,

446
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Speaker 21: but you know, just it's time to go. It's kind

447
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Speaker 21: of the same thing that Tyrod has been telling me

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Speaker 21: about from how he prepares and what goes through his head,

449
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Speaker 21: because it's tough, like you never know what play it is,

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Speaker 21: what time it is, if it's gonna happen, if it's

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Speaker 21: not gonna happen. So there's a tough part about staying ready,

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Speaker 21: being ready for that role, which is what makes that

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Speaker 21: position so difficult. So thought Tyrod did a good job

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Speaker 21: helping me throughout these last couple of months being here,

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Speaker 21: and just when he went down, you know, everybody just

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Speaker 21: looked at me and we were all good and we're

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Speaker 21: gonna go through what our game plan was.

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Speaker 11: Did you wish said maybe you would've little Pa passed

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Speaker 11: a little bit more. Did you just say, look, it's

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Speaker 11: my first NFO game, or wanna leave it up to

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Speaker 11: the coach coach knows best.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm in the place called and I'm my job

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Speaker 21: is just to go out there and execute and help

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Speaker 21: league offense.

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Speaker 15: Who were you turning to on the bench during the game.

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Speaker 15: You mentioned relying on Tyrod, but when he's not there,

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Speaker 15: wede to talk to him?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: Uh really?

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Speaker 21: With John Michael for the center and then sekuon you

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Speaker 21: know that was part of our game plan, and clearly

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Speaker 21: he he carried the load of the offense really the

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Speaker 21: whole second half. So really just rely on those two,

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Speaker 21: make surelot communication was good, and then being able to

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Speaker 21: execute the offense.

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Speaker 15: Wait, how much did the the game plan change? Going

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Speaker 15: to retire on TV and you said to run more?

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Speaker 21: I don't think it was too Jurassic. Obviously we had

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Speaker 21: some injuries and people get banged up and people are out,

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Speaker 21: kind of affected some things. But like I said, again,

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Speaker 21: whatever play is called, they call it, I hauled it.

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Speaker 21: Just make sure everything's set and go out and execute it.

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Speaker 15: Obviously didn't get the win, but would it mean for

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Speaker 15: you to get your first thing to your clubshed out?

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Speaker 5: It was cool?

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Speaker 21: I kind of blacked out, Tom. I'm not really sure

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Speaker 21: what happened. They said they have the ball on the back,

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Speaker 21: But you know, I woulda would have felt a little

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Speaker 21: sweeter with the victory in the end, But you know,

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Speaker 21: blessed to be in the situation, and I'll cherish it.

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Speaker 7: Speak to your family and.

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Speaker 5: All, yet et cetera.

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Speaker 14: You speak to your family and all.

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Speaker 5: Yet I did not know.

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Speaker 15: You E mentioned your return and JMS. What were they

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Speaker 15: telling you after the game.

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Speaker 21: Just be you, continue to be you, and just know

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Speaker 21: that they have my back to everything, and you know

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Speaker 21: that I played a great game. But in my eyes,

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Speaker 21: I mean, there's definitely things correct, but I'll just look

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Speaker 21: forward to this coming small.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Tommy Devido downstairs. A lot of the

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Speaker 2: media already made their way into the locker room. We'll

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Speaker 2: get a lot more downstairs. The player interviews downstairs are

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Speaker 2: brought to you by MetLife, the official insurance company of

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Got to take a break by

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Speaker 2: but you want to readdress that final driver regulation And

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Speaker 2: by the way, I'm not here taking shots at Cakavon.

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Speaker 2: He played a great game. He had three sacks. It's

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Speaker 2: just one penalty over the course of a full game performance.

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Speaker 2: But I know you want to make a further comment.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, you're you're right. You're right.

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Speaker 19: Because the completion the Garrett Wilson was in the middle

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Speaker 19: of the field. If Kava doesn't jump off side, they

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Speaker 19: don't run the next play in just seven seconds.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they probably have one play left in regulation

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Speaker 3: and that's.

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Speaker 19: It, right, So you're right, you know, his only bad

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Speaker 19: play of the game. Came at the least opportune in time.

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Speaker 19: But I still I don't have any qualms with kicking

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Speaker 19: the field goal. It's a thirty five yarder. You gotta

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Speaker 19: make it and you win the game. And again we

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Speaker 19: talked about this and Howard pointed it out. The special

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Speaker 19: teams is not good because if you were watching what

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Speaker 19: they're doing and you saw Gonno after you missed the

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Speaker 19: first field goal, was talking on the sideline about something

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Speaker 19: where he was saying stop go, like he was very animated.

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Speaker 19: But there was something in the operation right out of

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Speaker 19: the get go that was wrong because you could see

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Speaker 19: him really annoy.

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Speaker 3: He was talking to Thomas McGee.

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Speaker 19: I didn't know if he was talking to somebody else's staff,

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Speaker 19: but he you could see that there was something not

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Speaker 19: right with the way it was set up. And then

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Speaker 19: on the last one, somebody jumped right over the left guard,

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Speaker 19: literally jumped over the left guard and was in his lane,

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Speaker 19: which I think he rushed it. And like when you

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Speaker 19: take a quick swing with a golf shop, he could

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Speaker 19: do you a smother hook.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can.

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Speaker 19: And then Howard Cross said the same thing. He said,

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Speaker 19: if you would have kicked it straight, it would have

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Speaker 19: been blocked. Huh so when you walk when you watch

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Speaker 19: that again, I have no problem with kicking the field goal.

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Speaker 19: There go up six with twenty four seconds, they have

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Speaker 19: no timeouts. Now they need a touchdown to beat you.

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Speaker 19: I think you're probability.

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Speaker 4: Totally thinking differently than that will be each one of

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Speaker 4: you guys. Maybe because I'm a defensive guy and they

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Speaker 4: played so well defensively today, you don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I just feel like put some onus

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Speaker 5: on your on your defense.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the defense, they the defense could have

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Speaker 4: won the game today and I feel like they was

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Speaker 4: taken away from them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they had the opportunity to win the game

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Speaker 3: on the final jo after what though?

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Speaker 19: But wasting And you're talking about a team that was

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Speaker 19: two for nineteen on third downs today and you got

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Speaker 19: a guy who's off the practice squad playing quarterback. How

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Speaker 19: many runs did Saquan have for nothing?

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Speaker 5: A lot? How many?

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Speaker 19: Look at the passing? Sequin had three catches for zero yards.

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Speaker 19: Slayton had to catch for minus one. It's not if

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Speaker 19: Daniel Jones is playing. We could have this argument a

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Speaker 19: third and one. Waller's in the game. Whatever you got,

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Speaker 19: Tommy DeVito and a backup offensive line, and the Jets

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Speaker 19: know you're gonna run it.

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Speaker 3: On third and one, fourth and one.

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Speaker 5: How did we get here though?

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Speaker 3: Make the field goal?

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Speaker 5: It's that simple.

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Speaker 19: Make the You're a paid professional who's been a great kicker,

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Speaker 19: and it's it's not like you missed a fifty two

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Speaker 19: yarder in bad weather.

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Speaker 5: A thirty five shak cooked them, s mother hooked them.

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Speaker 19: And at the end of the day, they make the

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Speaker 19: two kicks, the Giants win the game. If he makes

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Speaker 19: the one kick, the Giants are winning the game.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a clik time out.

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Speaker 2: Carl Banks will rejoin us at some point here as

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Speaker 2: we continue on Pepsi Giants Extra Point.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, you are listening to Pepsi Giants Extra

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Speaker 1: Point on the w fa N Giants Radio network.

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Speaker 20: Well play of the drive coming off hated by Jet penalty.

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Speaker 5: They go empty.

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Speaker 20: Set now, Barkley cups set to the level with Devino.

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Speaker 20: Three receivers right.

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Speaker 5: The Vino's gonna keep, but he's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna run up for the touchdown. He faked it to.

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Speaker 5: Barkley.

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Speaker 16: Have a kid from don Bosco Prep has the Giant

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Speaker 16: said front where they fifty nine to go on the fern.

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Speaker 2: That was the culmination of tonight's drive of the game,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the

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Speaker 2: New York Giant. Citizens has made ready for Giant fans

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Speaker 2: and eleven play seventy five yard drive which is aided

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Speaker 2: by a couple of Jet personal foul penalties to extend it,

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Speaker 2: and Tommy DeVito with his first ever NFL touchdown running

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Speaker 2: in on the little red option play with Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 2: jet safety. I believe it was Tony Adams ran right

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Speaker 2: past the Vito looking for Sekaw Barkley as the Vito

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Speaker 2: had the ball and ran it in. I believe we

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Speaker 2: have Darren Waller downstairs, Connor. If we have that racked up,

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Speaker 2: why don't we listen to Darren Waller talking to the

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Speaker 2: media after the game.

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Speaker 23: I just I'm not gonna get into all that. I

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Speaker 23: just I'm truth of matters. Go go out and and

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Speaker 23: make my kicks. I mean, there's they send me out

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Speaker 23: there expect me to make them, and uh that's just

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Speaker 23: not who I am. Sit up here and make excuses

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Speaker 23: to coward do anything like that. I mean, I just

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Speaker 23: have to do a better job, and you know, not

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Speaker 23: let her buy it down. It's not a problem. I mean,

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Speaker 23: my knee is what it is. But I gotta make

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Speaker 23: my kicks, you know, it's it's not the reason I

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Speaker 23: missed today. That just played poorly.

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Speaker 14: Snap and hold.

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Speaker 6: Everything was there for you.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean it's it was fine.

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Speaker 24: I just.

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Speaker 23: I'm good enough to make those kicks.

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Speaker 14: I just have to do a better job.

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Speaker 18: You mentioned let everybody young. Obviously there's a lot that

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Speaker 18: goes into the game. Why teams winning lose, But do

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Speaker 18: you feel that way.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean if I make those win the game.

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Speaker 14: So it's frustrating.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I care about this team.

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Speaker 14: The fans put a lot of.

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Speaker 23: Work into this. It's just a it sucks. It sucks

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Speaker 23: letting everbody down. I mean, you can put it straight

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Speaker 23: on me. There's nobody else. Honestly, this is this one's.

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Speaker 7: On me for sure.

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Speaker 25: There's a Jets Giant game even hit you harder.

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Speaker 23: Any any game like this hit you hard. It's it's tough.

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Speaker 23: I mean, I care about this game so much, you know,

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Speaker 23: I love playing the game. It's just disappointing. You know,

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Speaker 23: I know a lot of people are disappointing upset, no

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Speaker 23: one more than me, you know, I just have to

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Speaker 23: play better. Everybody expects better out of me and they

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Speaker 23: deserve that.

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Speaker 3: That's obviously Graham good ow that Darren Waller.

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Speaker 2: Darren Waller's not talking about field goal kicking there, Graham

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Speaker 2: gonna after the game and Bob, that's exactly the reaction

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Speaker 2: I would expect from Graham. Gonno after missing two kicks

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Speaker 2: that he's so used to making, putting the game on

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Speaker 2: him And basically he has to make the kicks and

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Speaker 2: don't talk about the leg, which we know is an issue.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not surprised that's how Graham sees it, given

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Speaker 2: his level of success in the league and his professionalism.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's like the.

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Speaker 19: Old adage, if you're out there, then I don't want

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Speaker 19: to hear about the injury. Yep. And he's got to

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Speaker 19: make the kicks. We don't know what the nitty gritty is.

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Speaker 19: I don't know enough about kicking to know what the

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Speaker 19: nitty gritty is. But the nitty gritty is a forty

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Speaker 19: seven yarder and a thirty five yarder by NFL standards,

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Speaker 19: has to be made, especially when you're playing with a

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Speaker 19: practice squad quarterback and you're playing in this low slug

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Speaker 19: fest of a kind of game every point counts, where

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Speaker 19: the defense is really kind of ruling the roost.

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Speaker 5: And what can you say at this.

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Speaker 4: Point, Fellas as you can see through my face, you

667
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Speaker 4: guys are here, I'm so distraught about this, not about

668
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: the game, but about I feel like the level of accountability.

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Speaker 4: I feel like all the players are taking full accountability.

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Speaker 4: You got a kid who's played in his first game

671
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Speaker 4: off the practice squad just a couple of days ago,

672
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Speaker 4: who's taking accountability for losing his game?

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Speaker 5: Graham could know, who's.

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Speaker 4: In his what fourteenth year, who has some lower body issues,

675
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Speaker 4: who's missed the kick earlier in the game, who's thrusted,

676
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Speaker 4: you know, into the situation again later in the game,

677
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Speaker 4: who's probably mentally destroyed from what he did earlier in

678
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: the game, and he's physically defeated probably too coming into

679
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Speaker 4: the game. That's why he probably missed the first kick.

680
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Speaker 4: I don't really know, but I feel like the players

681
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Speaker 4: are taking full accountability. But why was Tommy DeVito playing

682
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: quarterback at all today? Like, that's a great question to

683
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Speaker 4: ask you. Tyrod Taylor got hurt?

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Speaker 3: What else?

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Speaker 7: I mean?

686
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Speaker 4: I'm not but but Tyrod Taylor has an injury history,

687
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: so does Daniel Jones. That's why Tyrod Taylor was playing backup.

688
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Speaker 4: There's no Daniel Jones today. Well, there's a Tyrod Taylor

689
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Speaker 4: out there.

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Speaker 2: They had brought in quarterbacks for workouts, right, so they

691
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: looked at who they brought in and they decided that

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito haven't been here since the spring, was a

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Speaker 2: better option than trying to get one of those other

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks ready in the span of two weeks or however

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Speaker 2: long they would have been here in order to get

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Speaker 2: them ready to play.

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Speaker 3: That was a decision that the team made.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then I also look at how the game went,

699
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Speaker 4: you know, at the end, and yes, of course we

700
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: we all knew it was gonna be a Saquon Barkley game.

701
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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, if you get

702
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Speaker 4: to a point where you have to throw the ball

703
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: where the Giants got to, you can't say that you

704
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: don't want Toimy DeVito to throw the ball because he

705
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: has to throw the ball, because he's a guy that's playing.

706
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Speaker 4: And it's like, we understand how football works. Football you

707
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: have to get a first down at one point, just

708
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Speaker 4: the Jets did at the end of the game, you know,

709
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Speaker 4: And they were sitting there looking like Giants had a

710
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: ten to seven lead, and they were playing a field

711
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: position battle and it came down to the Giants would

712
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: have to get a first down. It wasn't that you

713
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 4: could just keep punting the ball and go three and out.

714
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: You had to rely on your quarterback, whoever was playing

715
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Speaker 4: quarterback at that time. Is there not any premonition of

716
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Speaker 4: you have a guy in Tyrod Taylor who can do things,

717
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: you know, very special, which we seen him do, but

718
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: we know his history. Are we not prepared if Tyrod

719
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Speaker 4: Taylor to go down that when it gets to a

720
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Speaker 4: situation where the quarterback has to throw the ball that

721
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Speaker 4: he can't.

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Speaker 3: Throw the ball.

723
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Speaker 20: Evidently they thought he could, right, I mean not according

724
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Speaker 20: to day Ball.

725
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Speaker 2: The question is is it conditions and game flow that

726
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Speaker 2: dictated that or is it more to the point you're making,

727
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Speaker 2: I think that's the answer. We don't necessary no, And

728
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: look we might find out next week, right you know.

729
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Speaker 19: You're gonna they have to sign a quarterback because obviously

730
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Speaker 19: it's not a Daniel Jones at least according to all

731
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Speaker 19: the reports out there, is not expected to be able

732
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Speaker 19: to play next.

733
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Speaker 3: Week and Tyrod. This show doesn't look like he's gonna

734
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Speaker 3: be able to play next.

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Speaker 19: One knows what's wrong with Tyra. Yes, so do you

736
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Speaker 19: sign Trevor Simion off the Jets practice squad? I mean,

737
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Speaker 19: he's a guy that's been in the league for nine

738
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Speaker 19: years and he started he started thirty games in his career.

739
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Speaker 2: Oh, I think the I mean for consistency, though, you

740
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Speaker 2: would think that de Vito is gonna be the starter

741
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Speaker 2: next week if they bring if they bring somebody else in,

742
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Speaker 2: Oh no, yet to bring somebody in recall less obviously,

743
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: but I think you know you've already kind of dictated

744
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: that decision, right If you wanted to bring in somebody else,

745
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: you could have done that already and played them over Davido.

746
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: Now that you've stuck with de Vito all this time,

747
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: you would think that he would be the guy to

748
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: get the start, right he has to.

749
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're not going to bring in anybody

750
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Speaker 4: right now and expect them to play and be ready

751
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Speaker 4: to basically play in six days.

752
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Speaker 5: You know, like that's not going to have three practices.

753
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Speaker 4: Yes, it's not going to happen, you know, not going

754
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: to be able to communicate and run a full functional offense,

755
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: you know where you I mean, if you want to say,

756
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Speaker 4: kwana do it, you know, if you're gonna run the

757
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: ball forty times? You know, But I doubt that that's

758
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: in the recipe, you know, And I doubt that was

759
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Speaker 4: the recipe tonight. You know, you had to have a

760
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Speaker 4: quarterback out there, and if you have a quarterback who

761
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Speaker 4: has injury problems, you know, like that's why Tyrod was

762
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Speaker 4: on this team, of course, but you know, once Tyrod,

763
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Speaker 4: once Daniel Jones went down, Tyrod is not a starter

764
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Speaker 4: and you have to have a capable backup because of

765
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Speaker 4: his injury history. I know these things because I was

766
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: injury prone in my career, so I understand this stuff

767
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Speaker 4: when it came down to this, and it's preparation going

768
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Speaker 4: into the game, you know, And I just feel like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Like the Giants kind of beat

770
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Speaker 4: themselves almost before this game because they weren't prepared when the.

771
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Speaker 5: Stuff hit the fan.

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Speaker 4: And we all know, Bob John stuff always hit the

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Speaker 4: fan during games. That's how football goes.

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Speaker 3: I totally understand what you're saying.

775
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Speaker 2: But with the formula that they had, with the conditions

776
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: and the game, they still should have won this game.

777
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Speaker 2: It wasn't for a series of just miscues late, whether

778
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: it's that, you know, the off side penalty or heck,

779
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: and I don't want to keep harping on came on

780
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: because if they don't give up the thirty yard throw

781
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: to Alan Lazard on the following play, you still win

782
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: the game. Right, if God makes the kick, you still

783
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: win the game. I mean, there's a series of things

784
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: that could have went differently here. You know, Deonte Banks

785
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: doesn't fall down on the outright to Garrett Wilson in overtime.

786
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Speaker 3: Who knows what happens in this game.

787
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Speaker 2: We don't know, So it will just have to keep

788
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: that in mind as you move forward here as we

789
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: evaluate the game. Right, let's take a quick break. Carl

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Speaker 2: Banks will rejoin us as we continue here. On Pepsi

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Speaker 2: Giants Extra Point, the Giants fall to the Jets in

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Speaker 2: overtime thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 2: Banks as well. Want to get right to your calls

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Speaker 2: at eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Arnie in Dumont. He will lead us

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Speaker 2: off today. Arnie, what's going on down?

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Speaker 26: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: How are you doing?

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Speaker 28: Guys?

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Speaker 29: Some plans to talk.

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Speaker 30: First of all, I'm so disappointed at the Giants at

811
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Speaker 30: the coachings there. How you do how you don't go

812
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Speaker 30: for fourth and one down at the you're down in

813
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Speaker 30: the side the twenty and you want to kick the

814
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Speaker 30: field goal, so they don't. You don't have to worry

815
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Speaker 30: about a touchdown. The thing is, you wait, they had

816
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Speaker 30: no timeouts to jet. They are donate twenty seven seconds

817
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 30: left or you run a play, you waste six seven seconds.

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Speaker 27: Even if you don't make.

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00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 30: The first bound, you will make the one yard. But

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Speaker 30: you got a shot. Or the Barkley was running and

821
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Speaker 30: making the one yards most of the time, and it

822
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 30: was worth well worth a shot. You would have wasted

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Speaker 30: five six seconds. Had no timeouts left, you would have

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Speaker 30: been down to around twenty seconds maybe nineteen eighteen second

825
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Speaker 30: defended how long to play or you run a white

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Speaker 30: play because the chilled f box. The few cases, but

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Speaker 30: it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 22: How you don't thank God hindsight on't he is twenty

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Speaker 22: twenty and you know Howard Cross and I had the

830
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Speaker 22: same conversation prior to the decision by the team to

831
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Speaker 22: kick the to kick the tempt the field goal, and

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Speaker 22: I kind of felt the same way. But you know,

833
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Speaker 22: you're playing the New York Jets. Their defense is one

834
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 22: of the tops in the red zone. You know, you

835
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 22: can there's all types of things you can you can

836
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 22: fall back on. But I just think this was one

837
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 22: of those calls you follow your instincts, and you know,

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Speaker 22: I think the coach's instinct said let's kick it because

839
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Speaker 22: I have a good kicker. Here's the thing that bothered

840
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Speaker 22: me is that the kicking team.

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Speaker 5: The protection was awful.

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Speaker 22: Like there's a guy that jumped over the line of

843
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 22: scrimmage was right in there. So if he doesn't miss

844
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 22: it left, it's probably blocked and returned for a touchdown.

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Speaker 22: And that's been you know, the special teams aspect of

846
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 22: this giant football complimentary philosophy. It's it's not holding up

847
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 22: at end of the bargain. I mean some days, some

848
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 22: weeks it shows up and it's only Jankie in one area.

849
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 22: Other weeks it shows up and you see it's like

850
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 22: unreliable in about three areas. So that's that's something that

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00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 22: has to be addressed. You know, Look, that punter had

852
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 22: a hell of a game because the Giants brought in,

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Speaker 22: you know, an experience return guy who made good decisions.

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Speaker 22: But that ball man, it was hit perfectly on about

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Speaker 22: four punts.

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Speaker 31: There.

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Speaker 5: Now. Listen, it wasn't just anybody's pitching wedge either.

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Speaker 13: That man.

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Speaker 5: He was dialed in. And uh so, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: it's a coaching instinct thing. I get it. I get

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Speaker 5: what people say that he should have run it, and

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Speaker 5: I thought so at least I questioned it. Yeah, you

863
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: questioned it beforehand. Yeah, beforehand, I'm like, well do you

864
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Speaker 5: do you really? Do you run this?

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Speaker 22: The clock would run out or not run out. It

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Speaker 22: run by five checkonds often, you know, But I get it.

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Speaker 22: It's a coaching instinct and it's what it's gout told him,

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Speaker 22: and you know it's that's not a long field goal

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Speaker 22: for Graham GOODO, like.

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Speaker 3: Folks, that's not and we are from Graham gonna post him.

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Speaker 3: I said, look, I have to make the kick.

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Speaker 22: It's a routine kick for him. It's thirty six yards.

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Speaker 22: We're not talking about a fifty or sixty yarder. And

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Speaker 22: it's fourth and one. It's thirty six yards. That's a

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Speaker 22: routine kick. So yes, we can, in hindsight say they

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00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 22: should have done something different. What they should have done

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Speaker 22: is made the kick. That's what they should have done,

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Speaker 22: and that didn't happen. Kickers get paid for those types

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Speaker 22: of plays. He's not on the roster for the sixty yarders.

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00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 22: You know, when he has ranged, you're on the roster

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Speaker 22: to make the high percentage kicks.

882
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 5: Those are the ones that keep you employed. Thirty five

883
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: or forty yards and n you've got to have a

884
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 5: pretty high percentage. Heus two today.

885
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to me, I think there's an argument either

886
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: way for both sides of it, and I would have

887
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: gotten a decision either way.

888
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: I think there's a good argument for both sides of it.

889
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 22: To be honest with you, Yeah, and then you know,

890
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 22: for the the other aspect of Brian Dabos coaching decisions. Look,

891
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 22: this is you as a coach. You look at your

892
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 22: roster and say this is what we have to be today.

893
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 22: You know you can't. You can't bemoan Tyrod Taylor is hurt.

894
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 22: Often you can't get a backup for a backup.

895
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 5: You just don't. You have Tooma Divido, who's next in line?

896
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 22: You want a backup to Daniel Jones and he's the

897
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 22: best backup in football with starting experience to your starting quarterback.

898
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 22: Then when he goes down, you know you're you're not

899
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 22: looking well, how do we do in training camp? Let's

900
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 22: get like three other guys ready to go. I mean,

901
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 22: it's just the hierarchy of things. So it happened, you.

902
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 22: You know, they played the cards they had. I think

903
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 22: they put themselves in position to win the football game.

904
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 22: Their defense played well until it didn't. But they didn't

905
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 22: shouldn't have had to After the last sack.

906
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to John on Mountain Vernon. He's up next

907
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: to Pepsi Giants extra point.

908
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: John, what's up?

909
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 21: Hi?

910
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 27: How are you guys good? I'm an old time Giant fan,

911
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 27: old time being my Isles was sixteen and seventy. That's

912
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 27: given enough. But this is the worst loss that I

913
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 27: have experienced outside of that forty nine lots in the playoffs.

914
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 27: This was horrible. And I agree and disagree with the

915
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 27: guy was on the phone with you. I thought the

916
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 27: coach who was bad today? And I'll tell you exactly why.

917
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 27: You mean to tell them You've got a third and

918
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 27: eight and let's see what are the Giants gonna do

919
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 27: in the second half. They're gonna give it to Bark

920
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 27: he gets six yards now it's more than two. You

921
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 27: mean to tell me you can't take a shot down

922
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 27: field with all these speed receivers that you got, you

923
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 27: can't take a shot down field at trying to complete

924
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 27: a pass with these people. I mean, I love Babel,

925
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 27: don't get me wrong, but I think they played way

926
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 27: too conservative. I think defense played great and the Chicago

927
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 27: bid defense ninety five defense that the Jed tad full

928
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 27: belonging because if Danny Jones was in that offense today,

929
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 27: they would have scored a lot more points. That's how

930
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 27: I feel. And I brought a terrific job in the

931
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 27: second half, but I think the coaching staff should have

932
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 27: took a shot downfield a few times.

933
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 22: Well, the way the game was playing out, thank you, John.

934
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 22: It was a field position game. Yes, the coach was

935
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 22: risk a verse with a rookie quarterback in no NFL experience, and.

936
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: I would have definitely how good the Jet defenses out there?

937
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 19: Yeah, well, wait a second, let's pump the breaks and

938
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 19: conditions a little bit. That's so, I'm gonna pump the brakes.

939
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 19: And I'm a big believer in the Jets. Well, let's

940
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 19: pump the brakes.

941
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: On the deep.

942
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 19: Then you gave up two hundred and three yards rushing

943
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 19: against a team that was playing the backup quarterback. And

944
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 19: then for an entire thirty minutes of football plus one

945
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 19: series of the third of the second quarter played with

946
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 19: the dude that was signed off the practice squad, And

947
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 19: when the game was on the line, the Giants took

948
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 19: the ball over.

949
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 5: With nine to twenty one.

950
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: To go from at their own three yard line, and

951
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: they used.

952
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 19: Almost seven minutes a clock before they wound up punting

953
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 19: the ball away. And then with one twenty six to

954
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 19: go in the game, the Giants drove it and gotten

955
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 19: field goal range to put a field goal up on

956
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 19: the board that would have forced the Jets to get

957
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 19: a touchdown with twenty eight seconds left in the game.

958
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: And they had those foolish penalties to help the Giant

959
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: square that touchdowns.

960
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 19: So let's let's let's let's pump our brakes on the

961
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 19: whole eighty five Bears thing. The one thing I will

962
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 19: agree with the caller, and this goes back a little bit,

963
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 19: Carl to the Tyrod even when Tyrod Taylor, because I

964
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 19: didn't think that, and I hope he's well. I thought

965
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 19: Tyrod Taylor played a nervous game today because I thought

966
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 19: he was baling on plays after one read there had

967
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 19: to be a shot in this game at some point

968
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 19: to take a shot at jalaln Hyatt.

969
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: At some point. He wasn't even targeted in this game.

970
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 22: Yeah, that that, you're right, And we noticed that early

971
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 22: in the game. I'm like, boy, he's not even going

972
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 22: through his you know, first one two progression. It was

973
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 22: like one and done.

974
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: It reminded me of the game against the forty nine ers, Carl,

975
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: when it was the same type of deal. Daniel had

976
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: one look and the ball would get out immediately if

977
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: that first look wasn't there.

978
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 22: Yeah, And with Tyrod, he was like scrambling and just

979
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 22: I mean, he did not play and I don't know

980
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 22: if that was by design or not, but it just

981
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 22: looked like he was bailing on plays too soon.

982
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 5: This is a tough loss.

983
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 22: It's probably a bigger win for the Jets than it

984
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 22: is a tough loss for the Giants, because the Jets,

985
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 22: if anything good should happen in their season, they'll look

986
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 22: back on this as a pivotal point. The Giants can

987
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 22: look at this and say, we didn't have any effing body,

988
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 22: Like we were down our third quarterback and you know,

989
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 22: he had no experience, and we just had to do

990
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 22: what we had.

991
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 19: To do with The Jets won a game when they

992
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 19: were they were grossly outplayed. Yeah, I mean in the

993
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 19: style of game that you were playing the Giants played.

994
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 19: I mean, Breece Hall came into the game leading the

995
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 19: National Football League and yards per carry six point five

996
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 19: yards per carry. Breece Hall had twelve carries for seventeen yards.

997
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 19: Today it's one point four. The only run of significance

998
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 19: they had was the one third down conversion where Wilson

999
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 19: scrambled and ran for seventeen yards. Other than that, they're

1000
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 19: running backs and wide receivers longest carry was six yards.

1001
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 19: The Giant defense played great today, yep, until the game

1002
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 19: was on the line and they gave up fifty eight

1003
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 19: yards and two plays.

1004
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 20: And John, you made a great point.

1005
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 19: And I didn't realize it at the time, but you

1006
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 19: know Thibodeau and he played, he played a fantastic.

1007
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: Great game.

1008
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 19: But the margin of error is so slim for this team.

1009
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 19: By him jumping off sides when the balls completed the

1010
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 19: Garrett Wilson in the middle of the field, that stopped

1011
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 19: the clock. So the Jets took over with twenty four seconds,

1012
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 19: and they had the ball in Giant territoryeventeen seconds and

1013
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 19: the clock stopped. If Thibodeau doesn't jump off side, the

1014
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 19: clock keeps moving, yes, so.

1015
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 5: On along completion, they don't stop to move the chains. No,

1016
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 5: not in the NFL.

1017
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 3: In the NFL, that's the college. They got a hustle.

1018
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 5: So he's sure.

1019
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 19: So that will that Thibodeau offside allowed the Jets to

1020
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 19: now rechach that a lot of seconds. But put it

1021
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 19: this way, if the clock doesn't stop, the play took seven.

1022
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: Seconds, another ten to spike it, So now another.

1023
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 19: Seven or eight seconds to get the Jets to the

1024
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 19: line to spike the ball, and you're down to ten

1025
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 19: seconds at the giant forty nine yard line or forty

1026
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 19: eight yard line at most, and you got one play

1027
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 19: to try to get in field goal range and bounds

1028
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 19: and get out of bounds and try to kick a

1029
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 19: long field goal instead with the clock stop, they had

1030
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 19: enough time with seventeen seconds to use the middle of

1031
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 19: the field, which is what they did with Lazard, and

1032
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 19: enough time to get up there and spike the clock

1033
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 19: with one second line. So the offside penalty was pivotal.

1034
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 19: And I'm not saying that he Thivodau costs it. It's

1035
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 19: just the margin of error is so minuscule, yes, that

1036
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 19: even though you played almost a perfect game, the one

1037
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 19: little mistake gets mixed into part of why you lose.

1038
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: I want to get one more calling with Carl here

1039
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: and Mike and Weathersfield wants to talk about that final

1040
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: play and regulation that the Jets got it down for

1041
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: that potential field goal.

1042
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: Mike, what's going on?

1043
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 31: Hey, how you guys doing tonight?

1044
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: Good?

1045
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 31: Hey, listen, I'm at the fire I was watching the

1046
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 31: game and I see that last play prior to them

1047
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 31: clocking the ball, I see the umpire running downfield, the

1048
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 31: receiver who caught the ball give the ball to the center.

1049
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 31: The center puts it down, and then the ball they

1050
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 31: come up and snap it and.

1051
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 24: Clock the ball.

1052
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 31: Now, in my feeling, the umpire has to set the ball.

1053
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 31: He ran by the ball and took his alignment on

1054
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 31: the defensive side of the never touched the ball.

1055
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: No, No, I thought I saw him, and then maybe

1056
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. I thought I saw him run and literally

1057
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: tap the ball and then take position on defense. I

1058
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: was actually watching for that live. I thought I saw

1059
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: him tap the ball. Did you guys notice if he

1060
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: tapped the ball or not.

1061
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: I did not.

1062
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 26: We rewound it and I had three other guys watch it,

1063
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 26: and we don't believe he touched the ball. But I

1064
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 26: believe he physically has to pick the ball up and

1065
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 26: spot it. I don't think he can just tag it.

1066
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: I think as long as the umpire touches the ball.

1067
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: You're okay.

1068
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: I have not seen the replay, so I'll trust you

1069
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: on that. I have not gone back and looked at it.

1070
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: But yes, you are correct. The official does have to

1071
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: set that ball in some way, shape or form to

1072
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: give the team a chance to spike it.

1073
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: Thanks for the call. You're absolutely right.

1074
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 24: Is he still there?

1075
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: Did we lose him? Appreciate the call.

1076
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys want to scueze one more Carl, Sure, Okay,

1077
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: we'll try to squeeze it one more.

1078
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 3: Call here. I believe it's Mike in the Bronx, who's

1079
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 3: been holding the longest. Yeah, mikel on the it's Michael.

1080
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1081
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 24: I've been old not listen.

1082
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 32: I've been a Giant fan since the mid sixties. But

1083
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 32: whatever that's worth. Look, bad teams find all kinds of

1084
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 32: ways to lose. I've seen this movie. I'm sorry to

1085
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 32: say this. I've seen this movie one hundred times, especially

1086
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 32: in the nineteen seventies. The Giants didn't what's the buffalo?

1087
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 32: The Jets didn't win the game. The Giants lost the game,

1088
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 32: that's all. Yeah, obviously you got to make that field

1089
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 32: though at the end, right.

1090
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: No, Michael, Michael, I hear you saying, but I guarantee

1091
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: you if the Jets lost this game, you know, Jet

1092
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: fans would be saying, if we don't commit those two

1093
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: personal foul penalties on that one Giants drive, they never

1094
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: scored their long touchdown and the Jet fans say, oh, well,

1095
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: the Giants that win the game, we lost the game,

1096
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: and then their fan base would be saying the same thing,

1097
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1098
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 22: Yeah, Well, you know, there's a reason why these two

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Speaker 22: teams are kind of mirror each other because they just

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Speaker 22: don't do enough things to be consistent in terms of

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Speaker 22: of winning playing winning football.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, you know, this is yet another game

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00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 19: this year in which the Giants have won the turnover

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Speaker 19: battle and lost the game.

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Speaker 5: Plus two now the penalty the penalty battle too. Yeah,

1106
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 5: the Jets had almost on.

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Speaker 19: The Jets had nine for eighty.

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00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: Five, Giants were six for seventy three. They almost caught

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Speaker 3: him by the end of the game.

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Speaker 19: It was close, and the last five yarder turned out

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Speaker 19: to be or the last one turned.

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Speaker 2: Out to be a huge one, the one in overtime too, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: Jackson exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: So listen, what are you gonna say? I mean, the

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Speaker 19: Giants clutched defeat out of the drors of victory. And

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00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 19: again we could debate this until the Cows come home.

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00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 19: Dable could have been more aggressive goferd on fourth and one.

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00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 19: There's no guarantee if you hand it off to Barkley

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Speaker 19: to play maybe uses five seconds because if if they

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Speaker 19: stop them short, it means it's going to be a

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Speaker 19: pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: Play and the field will take to what three seconds

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Speaker 2: time going off the clock on the field goal attempt, Well,

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Speaker 2: it took four.

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Speaker 3: It took four.

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Speaker 19: Took four because they they ran it with twenty four

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Speaker 19: twenty eight seconds to go in the game. They kicked

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Speaker 19: the field goal, so there was four seconds left, and you.

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Speaker 2: Lose eight yards of field position too, right, because the

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00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: field goal gets set back eight yards.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, so.

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00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 6: Look, you gotta make the kick.

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00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 5: Yep, you gotta make the kick.

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Speaker 19: You can't commit a penalty on defense that stops the

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00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 19: clock when they're out of timeouts. It's all the little

1137
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 19: things that add up to two and six as opposed

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Speaker 19: to six and two. Yep, I'm not saying they could be.

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00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 19: You were saying, that's the difference betweeneams that have winning

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Speaker 19: seasons and losing.

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Speaker 22: Can you leave yourself open for speculation when your kicker

1142
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 22: can't make a kick, And people were like, why why

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00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 22: didn't you just go.

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00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 5: For it on fourth and one?

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Speaker 23: No?

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00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: Look, and I think by I think the point is fair.

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Speaker 22: I mean, look, it's the way your defense is playing.

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00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 22: If you don't get it, it's okay.

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00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: Well, and here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Like your defense played so well, the game shouldn't be

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00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: coming down to one kick, one off side penalty, one

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00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: pass in the f years. But when you lose your

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00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: back of quarterback and you're down to your practice squad quarterback,

1154
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: that's the hand you're delton. You have to play with it,

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00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: right yep, Carl, Good stuff, my friend. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you next week in Las Vegas. Bobby and a stick one, Lauria.

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Speaker 5: You're good. I think I'm good right now.

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00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: All right, Bob, We'll see you in Vegas as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll be rejoined by Jonathan Cassius.

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Speaker 2: Right here ont Pepsi Giants extra point as the Giants

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Speaker 2: fall to the Jets in overtime thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 20: Back on the floor for the Giant one and off

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Speaker 20: to Barkley.

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Speaker 5: Up to fit the gold.

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Speaker 4: Sak Quad tricks at the forty lcross midfield Barkley to

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Speaker 4: the forty to the thirty five and tackled at the

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Speaker 4: Jets thirty five yard line.

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Speaker 20: Thirty four yards for sa Quad Barkley.

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Speaker 2: And that thirty four yard play a sakwon Barkley was

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Speaker 2: the longest play of the game for the Giants. That's

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Speaker 2: dot org. Not pretty offensively here, guys. In terms of

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Speaker 2: total yards. The Jets finish with two hundred and fifty one.

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Speaker 2: The Giants, which just won ninety four Jets two of

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Speaker 2: fifteen on third downs, Giants just two of nineteen. There

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00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: were twenty four punts in this game, and they were

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Speaker 2: twenty four first downs in this game, and those twenty

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00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: fours were the most punts in any NFL game since

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Giants won the turnover battle to

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Speaker 2: nothing in this contest. Let's go through some of the

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Speaker 2: individual numbers here for the Giants and Tyrod Taylor played

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Speaker 2: about excuse me a quarter and three quarters of this game,

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Speaker 2: finished four of eight or rather four seven for eight

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Speaker 2: yards along of four. Timey DeVito came in attempted just

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00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 2: seven passes completed two from minus one yards. Sakwon Barkley

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00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: was the bell clout thirty six carries one hundred and

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00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: twenty eight yards that long of thirty four, and Giant

1204
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: cornerbacks did some damage on the ground. Tyrod Taylor five

1205
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Speaker 2: for thirty three, Matt Braida five for thirteen off the bench,

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00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: Timmy DeVito ran four times for twelve yards, and Wanda

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Speaker 2: Robinson in a couple jets one jets sweep.

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Speaker 3: One end the round part of me had two for seventeen.

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00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Giants overall ran a fifty two times for two hundred

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Speaker 2: and three yards a three point nine average. They attempted

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Speaker 2: only fourteen passes in the game. Sekwon Barkley led the

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Speaker 2: Giants in receptions. He had three of them, but he

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Speaker 2: had zero total yards and four yards apiece in the

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Speaker 2: pass game from Darren Waller and Matt Brada for the Jets,

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson finished seventeen of thirty six. He had a

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Speaker 2: touchdown long of fifty. Zach Wilson also ran four times

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Speaker 2: for twenty five yards a Giant shutdown. Bristol just twelve

1218
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: carries seventeen yards on the ground, but he did that

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Speaker 2: big fifty yard touchdown catch a couple of misstackles on

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00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: that play. For Mike McFadden and Jason Pinnock. He had

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Speaker 2: six catches for seventy six yards. Garrett Wilson came on

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00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 2: big late seven catches one hundred yards, including that big

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Speaker 2: twenty nine yard catch late in the game. Alan Lazard

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00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: three catches forty five yards. He also had that twenty

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Speaker 2: nine yard catch at the end of regulation and tight

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Speaker 2: end part of me Ciguzama one catch for nineteen yards.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Morristad was unbelievable for the Jets had eleven punts

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Speaker 2: of forty eight yard average and Jamie Gillen had thirteen

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Speaker 2: punts with a forty point seven yard average. Defensively, real quick,

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Speaker 2: the Giants allowed four sacks in this game. For the Jets,

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Speaker 2: you wo had won by Bryce Hoff, two by Jermaine Johnson,

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00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 2: and a half like Quentin Jefferson and CJ.

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Speaker 3: Moseley.

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Speaker 2: The Giants had four sacks of their owns, three for

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Speaker 2: Kavon Thibadeau and one for Dexter Lords.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick time out.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap up our network portion of our post game,

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00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: and we'll continue to take your calls at eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven three three seven sixty six sixty six when we return.

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00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: on our local flagship station, WFAN.

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Speaker 5: But right now.

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Speaker 2: the country on the Giants Radio Network. Our next broadcast

1253
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: will be next Sunday, the Giants visit in Las Vegas

1254
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: to take on the Las Vegas Raiders.

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00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 3: Pregame show on our network will be at three twenty five.

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00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to us today, and we'll see you

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00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: next week on the WFN Giants Radio Network. But we

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: are not done right here on WFN in New York,

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00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: Seonathan Casius and I, along with Paul Tatino, will continue

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Speaker 2: to take your calls at eight seven seven three three

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00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: seven sixty six sixty six, and a whole.

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Speaker 3: Lot more from the locker room from Paul.

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00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: Tatino and Pete Hoffman will continue to break it all

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Speaker 2: down when we return next on the bed.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back here on PEPSI Giants Extra Point.

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Speaker 2: John Schmeilk rejoined now by my guys, Paul Tatino and

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Casius. Giants fall to the Jets thirteen to ten.

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00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: In over time, We're gonna continue to take your calls.

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00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: We'll get on the line eight seven seven three three

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Speaker 2: seven sixty six sixty six. We have a lot more

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00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: sound from the locker room as well. Our guys, did

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00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeoman's work down there. Let's listen in as Kevon Thibodeau

1273
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: addressed the media after the game.

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Speaker 17: Keeve on what's the most disappointing aspect of this game?

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00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 6: To have that lead late?

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00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 5: I mean, he's got to finish.

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Speaker 35: NFL is a game finishing, and they were able to

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00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 35: execute at the end of the game and get a

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 35: enough poince to win.

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Speaker 6: You played all over the football field today.

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Speaker 9: Does that make you feel even worse here because you

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00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 9: gave the effort and the tearing and the team didn't win.

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Speaker 35: Uh Na, man, you know it's a team sport. They

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00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 35: did devastating that we didn't get to win, But you

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 35: know it takes all of us.

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Speaker 17: It takes all of us.

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Speaker 5: So who's got to keep going?

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Speaker 16: You said you gotta finish. Did you think we're twenty

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00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 16: four seconds to go? It was pretty much finished at

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Speaker 16: that point as the.

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Speaker 35: NFL, it's not over to the to the ladies saying

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Speaker 35: so yeah, you know, yeah, we's got to finish better

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Speaker 35: on the defense.

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Speaker 16: Could you believe after the way the defense played for

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 16: fifty nine minutes and thirty something seconds, you know you

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00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 16: didn't get to win.

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 35: Man, Quarterback May some great plays and they got left

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Speaker 35: to keep the field.

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Speaker 36: Though came on.

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Speaker 37: What was different about his adulity to escaping my time

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Speaker 37: on the last two drives.

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Speaker 6: Where they were going to get the points.

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Speaker 17: Uh, we just gotta make plays.

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Speaker 35: I don't think he did anything, you know, any anything crazy,

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Speaker 35: you know for them as a routine play. For us

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Speaker 35: as a routine play, it's just about who executes it,

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Speaker 35: you know, at a higher level, what was the.

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Speaker 7: Plan on that last possession?

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Speaker 12: Defensive player, just make a play, make play.

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Speaker 3: That's keve On Thibetau after the game.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, another big player down the stretch impacting who woned,

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Speaker 2: who lost was a Dori Jackson.

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00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: He addressed the media after the game as well.

1315
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 17: You think they were the better defense today for most

1316
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 17: of this game.

1317
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 12: I felt like our defense played well. I mean that

1318
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 12: defense player great.

1319
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 38: Also, they got stopped we needed we was gonna stop

1320
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 38: so well, but I think our defensive played great out

1321
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 38: of this.

1322
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 34: What was the feeling when you guys were on the

1323
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 34: field there with twenty something seconds left to regulation?

1324
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 5: What was the field?

1325
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 12: See get the game over with, that's it.

1326
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 14: Why wasn't you able to do any think?

1327
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 12: Make a players scrambled, extended to play.

1328
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: I was able to make it.

1329
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 17: Were you were you guys in a pre vat at

1330
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 17: that point?

1331
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 14: Were you.

1332
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 17: Just not trying to give up big plays?

1333
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 39: Uh?

1334
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 12: No, we actually went outside playing outside man.

1335
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 38: Uh yeah, run a D seven and he was running

1336
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 38: D seven that's what he ran to go through the

1337
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 38: plays breaking out. Seeing the quarterback scrambled, gave me a

1338
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 38: little nudge, went back inside bool catch the ball and

1339
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 38: get the clockt and and get a get the tillball

1340
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 38: to going on team.

1341
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 12: So that wasn't no prevent now that we was in

1342
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 12: outside manor man.

1343
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 17: Yeah, that strange was to see Graham miss not once

1344
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 17: but twice and kicks.

1345
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was Uh, I wanna say strange.

1346
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 38: It's just different to to to see I guess friends

1347
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 38: your words. But at the end of the day, we

1348
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 38: still rally with him kind of them on the back

1349
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 38: of there is what it is. You got to go

1350
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 38: out there and execute on the defense. You know, we

1351
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 38: gotta play not perfect football, but perfect football out there.

1352
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 38: And it didn't happen like that.

1353
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: Guys. Your reaction, Paul JC, welcome back, Paul.

1354
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: You were down there in the locker room and give

1355
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: us a feel for what it was like down there

1356
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: and what you just heard from the Dorian Kievan.

1357
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 37: You can imagine it's a tough locker room right now, John,

1358
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 37: the guys already cleaned out and they're on their way home.

1359
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 5: I mean stunned.

1360
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: I guess that's the best word I can use.

1361
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 37: They are stunned, certainly disappointed, certainly frustrated, certainly disgusted. But

1362
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 37: stunned is the best word I think I can use

1363
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 37: to describe it. Because you're looking at so many things

1364
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 37: that went right for most of this game today, but

1365
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 37: there were a number of other things that obviously didn't

1366
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 37: have allowed the Jets to stay in the game and

1367
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 37: then obviously allowed them to steal it. I think I

1368
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 37: think it's probably setting in right about now for the

1369
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 37: Giants that they weren't a stretch where they had to

1370
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 37: win four out of five games to throw some oxygen

1371
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 37: into their lungs and get back into this race. This

1372
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 37: was a game they simply could not lose.

1373
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 4: This was the realization game there's gonna there's a there's

1374
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 4: a point in the season when stuff is not going

1375
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 4: your way, when you sit there and realize, like, okay,

1376
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 4: we're not a good team. We're a bad team. And

1377
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: it's how you go about the next day at practice.

1378
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 4: It's how you go about the next day when you're

1379
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 4: watching film by yourself. Because this season is not done,

1380
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 4: of course, but it was a question of of the Giants,

1381
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: can they be good? Can they possibly get to the playoffs?

1382
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 4: I think half of that question was answered tonight because

1383
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 4: the old adage of bad team find ways to lose games, Now,

1384
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: that's happened multiple times this year. Not one, not twice,

1385
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 4: not three, It's happened multiple times. Right, a defense that's

1386
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 4: been playing I think very well.

1387
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, LA's three weeks absolutely gives related instances.

1388
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 5: Yes, lets them down right.

1389
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 4: Situational football has been killing them and they've been losing

1390
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 4: a lot of games because of situational football.

1391
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I think I'm gonna go take this

1392
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: from an analytical angle for a second. Okay, you'll get

1393
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: it from players and ang I'm gonna look at it

1394
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: from a big picture of numbers thing, you know. And

1395
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: we talked about the Giants record last year and their

1396
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: record in close games are through the roof, and yes,

1397
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: good teams figure out ways to win close games.

1398
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: I agree.

1399
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: I also think and I think The data backs this up.

1400
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: When you play close games, Lady, luck plays a big

1401
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: role in what goes on, right when you play in

1402
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: really close games, one bad play by one player, one

1403
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: stupid penalty, one drop pass, one pass, interfearance, penalty, whatever

1404
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: you want to talk about. One mistake can make the

1405
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: difference between a win or a loss when you're constantly

1406
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: playing one score games, and sometimes it's gonna help you

1407
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: win games like you had last year, and all the

1408
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: close games they won this year, those one or two

1409
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: plays haven't gone the Giants' way and those have been losses. Now,

1410
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: does that mean that you're a completely different team and

1411
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: your whole culture and everything you're about is different because

1412
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: one or two plays go a different way than did

1413
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: last year.

1414
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 3: Some people look at it that way.

1415
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: Some people do look at it that way, absolutely, And

1416
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: I bet your coach is look at it that way.

1417
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: A lot of coaches around the league, right. But it's

1418
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: also just the way the league works. When you play

1419
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: a lot of close games, sometimes you're gonna win them,

1420
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: sometimes you're gonna lose them, And that's just the way

1421
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: the old cookie crumbles.

1422
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 37: I understand that sentiment. The problem for me is that

1423
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 37: last week's game Washington should have been a blowout. It

1424
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 37: never should have been that close. This game should have

1425
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 37: been a comfortable Giants win, even though they ran the

1426
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 37: ball for two and a half quarters and tried to

1427
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 37: milk the lead. The fact of the matter is they

1428
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 37: were one for three in the red zone early, which

1429
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 37: was inexcusable. And I told Jonathan, they're eaving points on

1430
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 37: the board. There's no reason, no reason why they shouldn't

1431
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 37: be up by at least two scores here.

1432
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: They turned out to be one of three. That was

1433
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: that was the final number.

1434
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, but the one was the Graham gonna

1435
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: miss it these right, right right, you know. And they

1436
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: weren't really trying to score a touchdown on that drive. No,

1437
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to give them a hit on that,

1438
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: all right, you know what I mean?

1439
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 37: All right, But still when you you wind up trying

1440
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 37: was it two to thirty five yard field goals?

1441
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to do better on those drives.

1442
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you also have to make your thirty five

1443
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 3: yard field goals, but you.

1444
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: Do, you do.

1445
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: And the other one, the other one was a forty seven.

1446
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: You weren't that deep on that one either. That was

1447
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: a longer field goal.

1448
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 37: I just feel that the Giants left some points on

1449
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 37: the board in this game earlier to where it never

1450
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 37: should have come down to the Jets needing a field

1451
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 37: goal to tie the game on the final.

1452
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: Play of the fourth quarter.

1453
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 37: This game should have been out of reach before that,

1454
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 37: and that's the only reason why the mantra about close

1455
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 37: games can go either way. That doesn't sit well and

1456
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 37: well with me, because I think they should have put

1457
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 37: this game in their pocket before that, before Tyrod left

1458
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 37: the game.

1459
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: Not before Tyrod left the game, well, then I'm not

1460
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: buying it. Then, once Tommy DeVito's in the game, you're

1461
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: holding off. For dear life, you can't expect they want

1462
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: to expand the lead with Tommy DeVito in the game.

1463
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. Well, they threw seven passes with him, right, Okay,

1464
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: hold on, and three of them came in overtime. Once

1465
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: once the Vito's in the game, you're just holding on.

1466
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: Right In my opinion, at least, then we can disagree

1467
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: on that.

1468
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 3: That's fine. If you want to say earlier in the

1469
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: game that.

1470
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: They should have taken a bigger lead with Tyrod, sure,

1471
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: but quite frankly, with Tyrod Taylor in the game, they

1472
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: could have passed the ball either, and now you can

1473
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: why not even trying to.

1474
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: Bear early on. But here here's what I'm saying.

1475
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 37: Right the Vetos in the game at the end of

1476
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 37: the second quarter and they've got the ball with forty

1477
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 37: one seconds to go with the forty eight yard line. Okay,

1478
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 37: in theory with GNO fifteen twenty yards you get more points, well,

1479
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 37: you get more points, that's again not today apparently in

1480
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 37: theory with GNO. But instead, what do you get incomplete

1481
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 37: sack scramble and you blow a golden opportunity out a

1482
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 37: double dip because now not only do you not score there, okay,

1483
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 37: going into halftime, but then when you come out in

1484
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 37: the third quarter you wind up getting a touchdown. You

1485
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 37: could have had a double dip there that would have

1486
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 37: put the Jets another score behind.

1487
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: You also only scored that touchdown because the Jets canmit

1488
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: two personal foul penalties on the drive.

1489
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: I understand that too.

1490
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 4: So uh with I think Carl said it earlier about

1491
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: Tyrod not being patient in the pocket, and that's something

1492
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: that I said to you. Yes, those first I agree

1493
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 4: with that second drive, I have it in my mind, I.

1494
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: Think we're all on board on that.

1495
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 5: He got sacked, took it down quick, right.

1496
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 3: It was a lot of one rebound.

1497
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 4: I mean it was a three man rush on one

1498
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 4: of them, and they had they had dropped the lineman

1499
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 4: and it wasn't no pressure. The pocket was cleaned. All

1500
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: he had to do was step up. And then the

1501
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: following drive he tried to take off when that pocket

1502
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 4: was really clean and he could have stepped up and

1503
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 4: they had time to throw the ball downfield. So there

1504
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: was a time where you know this during this game,

1505
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 4: where when you looked at both sides, right, and you

1506
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 4: start looking at positions and how how they match up.

1507
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 4: I think the obvious advantage here was Tyrod Taylor playing

1508
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 4: quarterback over Zach Wilson playing quarterback for the Jets against

1509
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 4: these tough defenses, against these these these these running backs

1510
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,440
Speaker 4: against the defenses. I think that was the obvious advantage.

1511
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 4: I think those couple of situations that gave them back

1512
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 4: the cards. It's like, this is where we could have

1513
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 4: made some leeway at with our quarterback with experience with

1514
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 4: our receivers downfield, because he was still healthy then, and

1515
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 4: we ended up punting the ball on both of those situations.

1516
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 4: And then the punter who was probably the MVP of

1517
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 4: the night in Thomas Morestead.

1518
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 3: He was unbelievable kick punch down inside the giants.

1519
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 5: You are gonna say the difference, but that is like

1520
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 5: no one down but him. He did that. There was

1521
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 5: nobody else down. The ball downed itself, and then the

1522
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 5: ones out of bounce.

1523
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: And guttar Chefty did a great job. He's like Fier.

1524
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 4: That's why he thought he thought he messed up. I said, Paul, No,

1525
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 4: the ball was going inside the five, and you were

1526
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 4: coach not to get those balls. You don't you don't

1527
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 4: touch those, You let those balls because they usually bounce

1528
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 4: in the end zone. Actually, so he tried to fake. Yeah,

1529
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 4: he did a great job. I think he did a

1530
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 4: great job fielding all night. I think he looked very.

1531
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 5: Comfortable and me and Paul we weren't nervous every time

1532
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 5: he was back there. He didn't look.

1533
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked very good and he got some positive

1534
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 4: yardage on some of the ones that he did return.

1535
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 5: I mean it was what twenty we say, twenty.

1536
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 2: Three, twenty four, twenty four puns and twenty four first downs.

1537
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 5: Insane over eleven hundred yards.

1538
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: Paul and posted that most in the NFL game since

1539
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 2: two thousand and three, eleven yards.

1540
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: That is Concurtesy of Lexi, our producer.

1541
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 4: Good job les defensive punting games is a punting back

1542
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 4: to back weeks with Giants.

1543
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: I want to get back to the phone to you, guys.

1544
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: I want to take couple yes, right eight seven seven

1545
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: three three seven sixty six sixty six. Let's make sure

1546
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 2: he's still there. He is, Ron and east Haven, Connecticut,

1547
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: Ron Yard Next, what's going on?

1548
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 23: Hi?

1549
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 5: Guys?

1550
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: Ron? Hey, what's up?

1551
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 5: Sen?

1552
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 40: A Giants fan? A long time being this way back

1553
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 40: to the start six days when we're looking right at

1554
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 40: a victory and it becomes a loss with a lot

1555
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 40: of different chances in this game, a lot of different intangibles.

1556
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 28: But when it really came.

1557
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 40: Down in a final couple plays, did wink change our defense?

1558
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 37: Heard Tory Jackson just say downstairs they were in man

1559
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 37: coverage on the outside on those last two drives. So no,

1560
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 37: they were not in a prevent which we all talk about.

1561
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 37: The prevent defense prevents you from winning. Yea, But we

1562
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 37: always joke they weren't blitzing though they weren't blitzing, but

1563
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 37: they did.

1564
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 3: They did have man coverage on the outside.

1565
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 37: And quite frankly, I was telling these guys before, go

1566
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 37: back and look at the play, the pass interference play

1567
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 37: that came right before the winning field goal. The ball

1568
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 37: is so badly underthrown, oh terrible by Zach Wilson. Terribly underthrown.

1569
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 37: And the receiver does the smart thing because of Dori

1570
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 37: Jackson's back is to the quarterback.

1571
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 3: He's got to turn his head around. He never sees

1572
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 3: the ball.

1573
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 37: Right now, the veteran he knows better, but he never

1574
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,879
Speaker 37: sees the ball, doesn't turn around. The receiver basically slows

1575
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 37: down and and like basically has a Dory.

1576
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: Run into him. Yeah, I don't think and draws the flag.

1577
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think ron the call is probably

1578
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: more referring to the end of regulation defense, not necessarily overtime,

1579
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: because I think that's what a Dory was talking about

1580
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: right those last two plays, that in the regulation they

1581
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: were forcing everything to the middle of the field and round.

1582
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you, I don't have a

1583
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 3: problem with it because if you.

1584
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: Allow even that twenty eight yard catch in the middle

1585
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: of the field, if that off side penalty isn't committed.

1586
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 3: The clock's running yep, and you have what eight to

1587
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: nine seconds left.

1588
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 5: On the clock.

1589
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 4: It's called defense where you protect the sidelines, allow ye

1590
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 4: them to get inside releases, and you allow them to

1591
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: catch a passive.

1592
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: And obviously you don't want to allow a twenty nine

1593
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: yard catching. You don't want to do that. That's still

1594
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: probably more than you want.

1595
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: But even if you do.

1596
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: The Jets have the ball, then was that are on midfield,

1597
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: right on the fifty yard line they complete that pass.

1598
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: I believe we have it right here, Paul, thirty eight yards,

1599
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: but I believe there's seventeen seconds on the clock when

1600
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: they complete that pass.

1601
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 5: I got it right here.

1602
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: That is, yes, there's seventeen seconds. So how long will

1603
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: it take them Jays on a thirty yard pass? You

1604
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: think from the twenty five to get all the way

1605
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: into the Giants forty six yard line to spike the ball.

1606
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 5: Ten seconds, probably longer than that.

1607
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: So you're looking at.

1608
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: At most seven seconds on the clock and you are

1609
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: at the forty six yard line, which is a sixty

1610
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: four yard field goal with gregs arelines great, but even

1611
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: that's a little bit much for him In these conditions.

1612
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: Right to what we've seen the last six years, you

1613
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: would have son of a be might have made it.

1614
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 5: He might have.

1615
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: But the point is you still have to complete a

1616
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: pass with no timeouts get out of bounds in order

1617
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: to get into field goal range. Even if that passes

1618
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: completed in the middle of the field are you just

1619
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: can't commit the defensive penalty there to stop the clock.

1620
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: That's what killed that whole defensive strategy. Now the Island

1621
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 2: Wizard play again, you can't that. I have a bigger

1622
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: problem with that one than I do the play previously,

1623
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: letting Lazard open up. But I thought, you know, on

1624
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson made a lot of poor throws in the game,

1625
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: but I thought he did a nice job kind of

1626
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: creating some time and he actually made a pretty nice

1627
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: little lizard on that particular play.

1628
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 5: I thought.

1629
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 4: And that's the same thing I talked about before the game.

1630
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,839
Speaker 4: Look this team that the Jets, they they they're losing

1631
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 4: games all game where most of the game or laden games,

1632
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: but they figure out ways.

1633
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 3: To win games and unorthodox ways.

1634
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 5: To Yes, they've done it with their defense.

1635
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 4: They've they've done it with I guess pumatory for a

1636
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 4: touchdown special teams. But like with very inconsistent play from

1637
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 4: their quarterback and their offense, and I figured it out

1638
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: ways to win games. They're now over five hundred, and

1639
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 4: you would think with the inconsistencies on offense that they've

1640
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 4: been having that they would not have these many, this

1641
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: many wins against I think, I don't know if the

1642
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 4: Giants are on this list against pretty quality opponents.

1643
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: I mean, they're literally a bottom three team in every

1644
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: metric offensively in.

1645
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 5: The but they find ways to win games.

1646
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 37: You know, always tell you defense and special teams can

1647
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 37: keep you in games, and then if you can just

1648
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 37: get a little bit lucky, you're gonna steal a bunch.

1649
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 4: I mean that literally sounds like what the Jets, right,

1650
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 4: That sounds like the exactly what sound exactly like them?

1651
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 3: And look, I get it.

1652
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 37: They made a couple of plays down the stretch, which count,

1653
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 37: but in my opinion, the Giants gave them this game

1654
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 37: more so than anything else. They tried to milk two

1655
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 37: and a half quarters off the clock. You know, we've

1656
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 37: seen in basketball. I don't know, Johnny, you remember in

1657
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 37: the NCAA before they had the shot clock. Oh yeah,

1658
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 37: the four corner four corners right, and the four corners offense.

1659
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 37: I'm sure you remember it to Jonathan, go four corners

1660
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 37: offense and you try to milk sometimes ten minutes.

1661
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: That was how Villanova beat Georgetown why in the finals?

1662
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 24: Right?

1663
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 37: And then finally the NC DOUBLEA said, wait a minute,

1664
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 37: we got to put some kind of shock clock, and

1665
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 37: this is just crazy.

1666
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 3: The Giants tried to milk two and a half quarters.

1667
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 13: Wow.

1668
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: The only thing I'll say to you is the same

1669
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: thing I said to a caller previously that called in

1670
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: before you got up here. Yes, I agree what the

1671
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: Giants did at the end. They certainly played their role

1672
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: in this loss. But let's of the Giants hold on

1673
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: they win ten to seven. Do what every Jet fan

1674
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: is saying tomorrow calling WFN, Well, if we don't commit

1675
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: those personal foul penalties in that drive, the Giants never

1676
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: get to never get a touchdown, and we probably win

1677
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: the game seven to six.

1678
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure they are so I think I think to

1679
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 3: the point we're rolemaking.

1680
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: Neither team made a ton of positive plays, but I

1681
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: think the Jets made their positive plays. That are the

1682
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: end of the game, when the Giants couldn't then respond

1683
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: and answer back over the course of the Cup, I.

1684
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 37: Told some people down on the sideline, both teams are

1685
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 37: trying to give each other a win here.

1686
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: Today I said the same thing on the postgame show.

1687
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's really what happened here.

1688
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 37: Neither team executed nearly at the level that they are

1689
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 37: supposed to be in most punts of two thousand and three.

1690
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that kind of tells you the stories.

1691
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 2: It's not great football. I mean, it was really good defense,

1692
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: but great football.

1693
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 4: But when you say really good defense, I mean that

1694
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 4: has to do with make you know, playing good sound

1695
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 4: defense in terms of being disciplined. And the penalties for

1696
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 4: both teams gave literally gave the other team points.

1697
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: And did Bob made this point earlier the Jets the

1698
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: Giants did run for two hundred yards.

1699
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 3: Now, it took fifty two garriers to get there.

1700
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 5: I mean, but that point still at that point with

1701
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 5: I don't like that point because they had we had

1702
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 5: negative nine net passing yards and the Giants we had

1703
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 5: to run the football.

1704
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: I don't think And by the way, I don't know

1705
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: if this is I don't know if this way to

1706
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 2: look this up. That has to be the lowest yards

1707
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 2: per carry for a team that's rushed for two hundred

1708
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 2: yards in like the last fifty years, three point nine yards.

1709
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 5: I don't know though, No, I don't know that. I

1710
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 5: don't think that's bad.

1711
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: Probably pretty high on the list, That's what I'm saying.

1712
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that bad, though, Like I think

1713
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 4: there are teams that it's just gotta think weather has

1714
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 4: not always been this beautiful for so long in the

1715
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 4: United States.

1716
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: You know what, you could have had some snow games, Yeah,

1717
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: where you just.

1718
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 4: Ran like literally a couple pass attempts. So that's neither

1719
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 4: hand love there, guys. But my thing is is when

1720
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 4: we look at both of these teams, right, we knew

1721
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 4: that defensively, that this was going to be a defensive game.

1722
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: What we didn't know is that these both of these

1723
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 4: defenses were basically going to be the cause of why

1724
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 4: the offense has success.

1725
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 5: And that's we were talking about.

1726
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 4: We were talking about the Giants, right, the Giants best

1727
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 4: plays on offense, besides the sy Kwon Barkley run, Yep,

1728
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 4: we're coming from the.

1729
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 5: Jets defense giving them the ball, giving them extended plays

1730
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 5: and vice versa.

1731
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 4: The Jet the Giants defense played great, literally smothered the

1732
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 4: Jets the entire game, and then at the end of

1733
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 4: the game the off sides of the pass in appearance

1734
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 4: on the least, that was the best Jets plays they

1735
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 4: had all games. Now let me not let me take

1736
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 4: away from them, because Wilson had a couple of great conversions,

1737
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 4: had a couple of great catches, and then the Brits

1738
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 4: all touchdowns, but in crucial situations, it was the Giants

1739
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,799
Speaker 4: defensive mistakes that ended up being basically the best plays

1740
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 4: for the Jets offense, which was that's not what we

1741
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 4: predicted how this game was gonna go.

1742
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 3: Well, I think we did probably predict that it wasn't

1743
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 3: gonna be a high scoring game. We knew that.

1744
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 5: We all knew that.

1745
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you all week sixteen to thirteen Giants

1746
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: in overtime.

1747
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 5: You were close.

1748
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had.

1749
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: I had seventeen sixteen, That's what I had. But of

1750
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: course I didn't realize Tyrod Taylor would get hurt.

1751
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 5: Well, yes, it's the thing.

1752
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 37: I agree with you that if Tyrod Taylor doesn't get hurt,

1753
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 37: it's probably a different game.

1754
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 5: I mean, but it is what it is. What it is.

1755
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 37: Two stats I gave on the MSG postgame show. I

1756
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 37: don't know if he had a chance to do him

1757
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 37: here on fan, But do you got uh Saquon Barkley

1758
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 37: his first one hundred yard rushing game in his last

1759
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 37: twelve appearances.

1760
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

1761
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 37: Going back to November thirteenth of last year against Houston

1762
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 37: and this is now the third overtime game between the

1763
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 37: Giants and Jets in their last six regular season matchups.

1764
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 5: Oh wow, do you know?

1765
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: Did he have more carries in this game than he

1766
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: had against Houston last year? I can look for you

1767
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: if you like. It's definitely the most since that game.

1768
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he because he had thirty carries

1769
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: in that game against Houston two last year. I just

1770
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: don't remember exactly.

1771
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: How do you have thirty six today?

1772
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1773
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: I think he had more in this game. So most

1774
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: yards and most carries then since that game against Houston

1775
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 2: last year.

1776
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: Right, let's take a time out, we'll come back. Take

1777
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: more of your call.

1778
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: Stay on the lines eight seven seven three three seven

1779
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: sixty six sixty six.

1780
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 3: We come back on PEPSI Giants extra point. Right here

1781
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 3: on the fan.

1782
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 19: He makes a man miss, spins aheads, more, turns the

1783
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 19: corner and gets knocked out at the twenty nine, So

1784
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 19: Barkley gets seven in the first down.

1785
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: That was a big third and six on the Giants

1786
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: loan touchdown drive. They ran a little drop in to Saquon.

1787
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 2: He gained seven and then we mentioned Giants got some

1788
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 2: assistance from some Jets penalties to score a touchdown on

1789
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: that drive. But Saquon Barkley is our player. The game

1790
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 2: brought to you by Moody's, a proud partner of the

1791
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: New York Giants and Saguon Barkley spoke to the media

1792
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 2: downstairs after the game.

1793
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 14: Let's listen in this one definitely stinks.

1794
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 36: You played a really good team, got hatch off to

1795
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 36: the Jets defense played great, Olon Dowd the tails off,

1796
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 36: Tommy came in, did a great job.

1797
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 14: We came sure.

1798
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 17: Kavan makes that sat for second sack.

1799
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 12: You gotta get the field on.

1800
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 14: Something got to Yeah, I guess I can because he lost.

1801
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 36: Uh in that moment, you know everything's going your way,

1802
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 36: and for like the games, we can, we can finish

1803
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 36: the game. We just gotta do a better job to

1804
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 36: find a way to win that game. You know there's

1805
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 36: so many players out there that uh we we wanna

1806
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 36: have back and especially myself, and you know, start by

1807
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 36: going and watch a film and see what I could

1808
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 36: do better and what we get the better?

1809
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 17: Like, were you surprised?

1810
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 12: Were you surprised that the field goal beyond the fourth

1811
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 12: and one?

1812
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 25: Were you hoping to maybe get the ball there in

1813
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 25: that situation?

1814
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 14: I mean it's fourth and one.

1815
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 36: I mean I I I could sit here and be like,

1816
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 36: oh I want the ball in that situation, But we

1817
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 36: got n nothing but trusting Graham and we're gonna continue

1818
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 36: to have trusting Graham.

1819
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 14: And to be honest, I could've.

1820
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 36: Got the first down to play before uh gotta drop

1821
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 36: my feet a little more or some other player.

1822
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 14: I coulda find a way to get a first down.

1823
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 36: You know, you could sit here and pick and choose

1824
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 36: or the fourth and one that decision or WHI should

1825
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 36: we have done there or not?

1826
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 14: And you can make that to play.

1827
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 36: But there's so many players that go out go through

1828
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 36: our a game at you know, helps with the decision

1829
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 36: of how the game turns out and.

1830
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 14: Just gotta be better all of us.

1831
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 15: What is it like Tommy went in there that transition.

1832
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 36: I think he did great. Uh he was a cool

1833
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 36: column collected. Uh, it's a tough defense to go again

1834
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 36: to your first time. He was able to get the

1835
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 36: end zone. Uh as a local kid, UH probably felt

1836
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 36: great for him. And you know, just this point, we

1837
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 36: couldn't get away from him. Uh came up close, came close,

1838
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 36: but uh didn't get done.

1839
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 17: You knew you told of that time. The girl's basically

1840
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 17: going through you here.

1841
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 5: Huh.

1842
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 12: You knew we would be difficult, right, you know they're

1843
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 12: gonna stack it.

1844
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 16: You gonna get the ball, Get the ball, get the

1845
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 16: How what kind of a challenge most that you didn't have?

1846
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 14: Thirty six caps?

1847
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 17: A lot of cats.

1848
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 14: It's football, really, let's be my answers. Football. He wasn't

1849
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 14: make tell you some some usual games, you.

1850
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 7: Know what I mean?

1851
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 36: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean you were you would

1852
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 36: think it would be a little different, But we were.

1853
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 14: In a situation where that was a that's what we

1854
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 14: wanna do. I was made aware of it. Oh, I

1855
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 14: was off four, came up, came up short.

1856
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 6: SI, see point, what's your SIT's to your teammates after.

1857
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 14: A game like this?

1858
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 23: I know what it is?

1859
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 36: Ready, we'll we'll definitely talking about that this week. But

1860
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 36: we're still on the fight. Everything we want out there

1861
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 36: and still stay there. So you just gotta watch them

1862
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 36: get better and improve.

1863
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 14: Games that are emotional at the end.

1864
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 35: How does this.

1865
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 36: Yeah, I mean it's stings, Uh, but a loss is

1866
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 36: a loss, no matter how you how it goes down,

1867
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 36: still a lost and you still got people professional about it,

1868
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 36: and you still got to come to work tomorrow and

1869
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 36: get ready for the next week.

1870
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 14: That's nuts football.

1871
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 7: How us speak get back game super rather than later.

1872
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 7: Starting quarterbacks?

1873
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean DJ is one of the best quarterbacks

1874
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 14: in the league. Uh, they just start.

1875
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 36: He's our started quarterback. He's our leader. So you know,

1876
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 36: I don't wanna speak for him, but whenever he's able

1877
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 36: to get back out there, definitely gonna be helpful and

1878
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 36: we're gonna do what we can to uh help help

1879
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 36: him make a job easy.

1880
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 15: What's his presence in a game like today? You see

1881
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 15: him on the sidelines.

1882
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I've been in that position.

1883
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 36: It's you know, it's hard to to lead, uh, you know,

1884
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 36: and in a sweatshirt and and the hoodie and shorts.

1885
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 14: But he did a great job. I think he did

1886
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 14: a really good job.

1887
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 36: Especially when Tarra went down and you know, keeping uh

1888
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 36: Tommy cool and being in his air and talk to

1889
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 36: him and helping him out and give him advice.

1890
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 14: And you know that's what we expecting. DJs.

1891
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 36: He's having a heck of a guy, having a quarterback,

1892
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 36: heck of a leader. And whenever ever get him back, uh,

1893
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 36: you know he's gonna be ready to row.

1894
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 17: Do you you hate not coming forward on fourth and one?

1895
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,560
Speaker 17: Here you are knowing what you can do.

1896
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 36: Yeah, like I said, I I can sit here and

1897
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 36: we can talk about that decision all day. And you

1898
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 36: know we have Rahm gno when the great skateus of

1899
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 36: all time. To be honest, Uh, that's life. Sometimes don't

1900
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 36: go your way. Uh, but we're gonna continue to have

1901
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 36: faith in him.

1902
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 28: Uh.

1903
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 36: We have faith in him coming into that movement. We're

1904
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 36: gonna continue to have fit them after that moment. So

1905
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 36: that's football, that's life did in our way, and that's

1906
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 36: a situation. But as a competitive yeah, you want the ball,

1907
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 36: but I'm not gonna heart in that situation. I got

1908
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 36: find a way get the first time before that.

1909
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 37: So sa Kwan Blackley, guys, as you now heard in

1910
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 37: the locker room, certainly faced some questions about the final

1911
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 37: fourth and one. Folks were really, really kind of second guessing.

1912
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 37: Should the Giants have gone for that late field goal

1913
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 37: or should they just have to dry to train more

1914
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 37: clock because Barkley, you.

1915
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 5: Know you're not really draining more clock.

1916
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 37: Well if if, if you don't make it, it does

1917
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 37: drain some more clock, two or three seconds, all right, whatever, second,

1918
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 37: it's still a few seconds.

1919
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 3: Or if obviously you get the first down.

1920
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 5: Games over.

1921
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 37: So he did get peppered about that, and you know,

1922
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 37: as you heard his answer it and I believe him.

1923
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: I believe him. He wasn't necessarily crying about not getting

1924
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 3: the ball there.

1925
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 2: No, Look, I mean, I think everyone has confidence in

1926
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: Graham Ganoda make that thirty five yard kick, I think.

1927
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 3: And we got calls about the earlier in the in

1928
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 3: the post. That's why it was important to Yah to

1929
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 3: hear him.

1930
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: No absolutely hundred eight seven seven three three seven sixty

1931
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 2: six sixty six eight seven seven three three seven sixty

1932
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: six sixty six. Let's go back to the still very

1933
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: busy phones and say what's up to Edward in White Planes.

1934
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 3: He's up next on PEPSI Giants Extra point. What's up Edward?

1935
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 13: Hey, thanks for having me on the show. This is

1936
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 13: a tough one and you know what I got to say.

1937
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 13: You know, you could look at different things in this game,

1938
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 13: but really I could just summarize in my opinion and

1939
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 13: you could disagree. The Giants offense just can't get it done.

1940
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 13: I mean, you can't win games in today's NFL with

1941
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 13: seven points, ten points, and I don't think double.

1942
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 3: You're right, Edward with them, You're right. The ones arguing

1943
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 3: with you on.

1944
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 13: That devil isn't doing them any favorites. If you remember

1945
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 13: last year when the Giants were ascending and they had

1946
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 13: this game, they could have tied, and they went for

1947
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 13: two and won the game.

1948
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 3: You know, yeah that was Week one against Tennessee last year.

1949
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 13: Yep, yeah, And now we got Okay, I get it,

1950
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 13: he's a backup quarterback. But this Pandemaino did good. He

1951
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 13: won the hearts a lot of people in preseason.

1952
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 39: You gotta you know, thirty and five, you's gotta throw

1953
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 39: a pass.

1954
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 27: I mean, that's where the game was lost.

1955
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 14: It was lost.

1956
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 13: And Zach Wilson was terrible. You know, he was missing passes,

1957
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 13: easy open passes, bust them out of his hands. Center,

1958
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 13: can't even get the snap exchange right. And we're not

1959
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 13: even taking off risks to throw a pass on third

1960
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 13: and hind third and six, it's gonna hand it off

1961
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 13: and you know punt. It's like double's kind of get

1962
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 13: that fire back and take somewhere Risks. You know, it's

1963
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 13: not just the fourth and one, it's the whole game.

1964
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 13: Like you said, you tried to play right. You know,

1965
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 13: he tried to hold him off for two quarters.

1966
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 37: Let me address this because Jonathan and I were talking

1967
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 37: about it and they got the second half.

1968
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 3: Appreciate the call.

1969
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 37: I kept looking at Jonathan and and kept saying, you

1970
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 37: know what, these three and outs, run run run, run,

1971
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 37: three and outs, three and outs, three and outs. The

1972
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 37: more times you punt, the more chances you give the

1973
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 37: Jets the ball, the better chance that something is gonna

1974
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 37: go wrong and you're gonna blow the game. You had

1975
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 37: to get a couple of possessions with three or four

1976
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 37: first downs to control some of the narrative and the

1977
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 37: tempo of the game while you had the Leaguely, I'm

1978
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 37: because I was having a debate with some of our

1979
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 37: producers back there, and we were having the same conversation,

1980
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 37: and the point I made is that this is the

1981
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 37: calculation the Giants coaching staff made and I'm taking the

1982
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 37: defensive side here, jac I think you're like this.

1983
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 3: Our defense has been so dominant.

1984
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: We believe that unless unless we give the ball to

1985
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 2: the Jets offense on our side of the field, they

1986
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: can't score on us. And if we just punt the

1987
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 2: ball and we make them drive the length of the field,

1988
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: they can't do it. And you know what, for ninety

1989
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent of the game, they were right

1990
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: and they were afraid. And I understand why that if

1991
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 2: you drop back to pass, and it's not just an interception, right,

1992
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: it's the blitz. Maybe he doesn't see a rusher come

1993
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: and he gets hit from behind and gets the ball

1994
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 2: shack for I think the last thing they wanted to do.

1995
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 3: And I understand Edward's point too. I get it you

1996
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 3: want to be aggressive, but in the wet conditions.

1997
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: With a quarterback against a pass defense that even when

1998
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 2: Tyrod was in the game, you couldn't really complete a

1999
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 2: pass against them. They were afraid that if you expose

2000
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito to a third down and long on a

2001
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 2: passing situation, it turns into a turnover. You give the

2002
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: Jets the short field, then potentially you go down in

2003
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: the game. Then you're trying to play catch up and

2004
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: then you're really in a bad situation.

2005
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 4: But you use the word couldn't, I'm gonna say did

2006
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 4: it because they were opportunities. Sakwon Barkley most multiple times

2007
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 4: was one on one with a linebacker and he beat them.

2008
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 4: And it was a good linebacker and he beat them

2009
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 4: both times. One was for a touchdown down here I was,

2010
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,560
Speaker 4: I was watching it. And then the other one, I

2011
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 4: guess it got tipped.

2012
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 14: He hit it.

2013
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was a tip one.

2014
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 3: So the one down here was that with Tommy DeVito

2015
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 3: in the game or was that Tyrod Stu?

2016
01:29:56,120 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 4: That was the past? Was it Slayton was the receiver? Yes, receive, Yes,

2017
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,879
Speaker 4: Sakwan was one on one in the backfield with the linebacker.

2018
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 4: I think he made it motion then too, And then

2019
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 4: he was one on thee with the linebacker. He beat

2020
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 4: him right across the face and most likely we've been touchdown.

2021
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 3: You told me right away, you said, all that's a

2022
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 3: touch They just missed it.

2023
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 4: They just missed it. That's a very hard route to cover.

2024
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 4: And as soon as Saquon turned around the linebacker, who

2025
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 4: at least got the first down. But like there is

2026
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 4: opportunities for the Giants offensively early in the game to

2027
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 4: score points against this such this vaunted defense, and the

2028
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 4: defense made a lot of mistakes. I'm talking about the

2029
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 4: Jets defense, and they were good. They are good, you know,

2030
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 4: and they find ways to win games late in games.

2031
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 4: So I've been talking about this all week because that's

2032
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 4: an impressive thing to do when you have an offense that,

2033
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 4: as you can see, can't really do too much on

2034
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 4: its own. You know, it needs help from the from

2035
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 4: the defense. It needs field position, it needs momentum that

2036
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 4: the defense provides. Without it, it really really is stagnant.

2037
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 4: But they find ways to do it. Laighton Games and

2038
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 4: they they they are winning games for the Jets. The

2039
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 4: Giants defense, Yes, they kept this team down for most

2040
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 4: of the game, for seven points for most of the game,

2041
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 4: and then at the end, the defense were the ones

2042
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 4: that made the mistakes.

2043
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 2: All right, I want to go to Frank insaias he

2044
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: wants to talk about one of those defensive players.

2045
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 3: Frank, what's going on?

2046
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 30: How you doing?

2047
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 24: Guys? Uh?

2048
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 5: What's up?

2049
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 28: Bull side Giants fan?

2050
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 39: You know, it's sad to hear all the finger pointing

2051
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 39: and splitting hairs, you know, it's it's it's sad.

2052
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 31: Uh.

2053
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 28: You know, when life deals you lemons, you make lemonade.

2054
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 24: What are we gonna do next week?

2055
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 28: That's what's going on through my mind. Whose quarterbacking? Who's

2056
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 28: got the ability? Uh to throw passes? To get the pass?

2057
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 28: But through my mind is left And this game, there

2058
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,719
Speaker 28: was a fourth and one situation in the third quarter.

2059
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 28: We didn't go for that, and uh at the at

2060
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 28: the on the postgame show after the game, it was

2061
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 28: said on the broadcast that the offense has to catch

2062
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 28: up with the defense. I think it's amazing what Wanke

2063
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 28: Martindale has done. The defense has certainly woken up. You

2064
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 28: did beat the Bills.

2065
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 39: You didn't get the call on Waller, the holding call

2066
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 39: on Waller.

2067
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 28: You didn't get it. And uh, you know, I mean

2068
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 28: these are the things that go through my mind.

2069
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 39: Now, who's you know my mind is and what do

2070
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 39: we do from here forward? You know, who's quarterbacking next week?

2071
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 39: Did he did Tyrod Dale fall on his throwing shoulder

2072
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 39: or his other shoulder. That's that's what's going through my mind.

2073
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 31: And I can understand why Frank.

2074
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 3: Appreciate the call.

2075
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 32: Man.

2076
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry for interrupting you, but we do have

2077
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: news by alien word from giants PR and what's going

2078
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 2: on with Tyrod Taylor?

2079
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: You asked a question, appreciate the call.

2080
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: He was taking the Hackensack Medical Center for further examination

2081
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 2: and testing after he left today's game.

2082
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 3: It was determined he suffered an injury to his rib cage.

2083
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 2: He will remain in you h UMC, which is hackings

2084
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Like University, overnight for observation.

2085
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 3: So to your question, Frank, I.

2086
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 2: Mean, I think it's gonna be Tommy DeVito starting next

2087
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 2: week unless Tyron Taylorkan.

2088
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 4: That's not like, that's not like a simple injury that

2089
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 4: we're talking about here. Why would he stay overnight? Well,

2090
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 4: when you I've broken both my rooms I've had, I've

2091
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 4: been in and out.

2092
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 37: Well, they'll they'll check them out and they'll see And

2093
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 37: of course Daniel Jones maybe back next week too, so.

2094
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: There is a possibility of that too. So we can't

2095
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 2: really answer that question at this point. I just want

2096
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: to go back to one number here, guys.

2097
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 37: And again I'm not saying that anybody's right or wrong here,

2098
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 37: but to me, I don't like the odds that you

2099
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 37: have eight drives that were three and out from the

2100
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 37: second quarter on that did not last more than two minutes.

2101
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 37: You're involved in a game that is razor thin. It's

2102
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:53,600
Speaker 37: a one score game. See, to me, that's a problem because.

2103
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 5: But what is that though?

2104
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 22: What is that?

2105
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 23: Like?

2106
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 5: What what equals that? How did that happen? That's decision making?

2107
01:33:58,800 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 5: Am I correct?

2108
01:33:59,600 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 36: Well?

2109
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. That's why I'm saying.

2110
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 5: About execution that decision makes right.

2111
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 37: I'm saying that offensively, you've got to be able to

2112
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 37: get three or four first downs on some of these

2113
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 37: drives because what you're doing by basically submitting and say

2114
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 37: it's okay, we're gonna tell the defense you guys are

2115
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 37: playing great.

2116
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 3: Just keep shutting them down. They're not gonna do anything.

2117
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 3: I can't believe this arguments coming from you, of all people.

2118
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 37: Well, because I can run the ball, but I know John,

2119
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 37: and I'm not saying to throw it crazy.

2120
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is they just kept slamming the

2121
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 3: ball into the line.

2122
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 37: They basically threw up their hands and said it's okay,

2123
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 37: We're just gonna milk the lead for two and a

2124
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 37: half quarters and it's gonna be okay because the defense

2125
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 37: will stop them.

2126
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,560
Speaker 3: But by the mathematical possibilities.

2127
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 37: I agree with you they had great confidence in a

2128
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 37: defense that was playing dynamite.

2129
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that.

2130
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 37: Statement at all, but pure math says, if you're gonna

2131
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 37: give up eight thrillion outs next in the last two

2132
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 37: and a half quarters, at some point during those eight

2133
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 37: to three and outs that you give up, they're gonna

2134
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 37: either get a big play on special teams, they'll get

2135
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 37: a long pass, they'll get a penalty. Something's gonna happen.

2136
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 37: When you give them that many chances.

2137
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 3: To me, that's risky.

2138
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 37: You're giving them too many chances to come back in

2139
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 37: a one score game.

2140
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 3: I understand that's my problem. I totally get where you're

2141
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 3: coming from.

2142
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm just giving what they and briand they would basically

2143
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 2: said in this postgame press conference, and I understand that's

2144
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do.

2145
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 37: I get the logic, and I appreciate the confidence in

2146
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 37: the defense. I personally could not have taken that risk.

2147
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 37: I would have needed to. At least I've gotten two

2148
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 37: or three drives where I get a question for you.

2149
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 37: I got five or six minutes off the clock. Let's

2150
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 37: say they do throwing.

2151
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 2: More and you get a play action pass on a

2152
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 2: first down? Tommy, do you get the rolls out and

2153
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 2: he decides to try to force something down the field

2154
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,839
Speaker 2: and it gets picked off, gets returned for a touchdown.

2155
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 2: Are we getting calls complaining why are you having Tommy

2156
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:05,839
Speaker 2: DeVito throw the ball on first down? I don't understand

2157
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 2: what you're doing When he's a practice squad quarterback. You

2158
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: have sain Kwon Barkley. Why aren't your run of the football?

2159
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 2: So trust me, Okay, I'm always mister aggressive guy here.

2160
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: We're all usually on opposite sides of this conversation. But

2161
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 2: when I think, for me, the formula changes when you

2162
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: have a practice squad a quarterback in there.

2163
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 3: And I understand it. I'm not saying it's wrong.

2164
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 2: I feel like we're having a fight that we had

2165
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: at the end of twenty twenty one will be in

2166
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 2: Mike Lennon and Jake from Yeah right.

2167
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 37: It's the type of conversation then, I honestly don't think

2168
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 37: there's a right or wrong.

2169
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 3: The results tell you if you're right or wrong. But

2170
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 3: there's logic on both sides of that fence, yep.

2171
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 5: And the thing is is like what happens next time

2172
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 5: you're in a similar situation.

2173
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 2: You know, like, well, I think now you have a

2174
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 2: week to get let's say, again, we don't know what's

2175
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: gonna happen, assuming or just make the assumption that Tommy

2176
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 2: DeVito's gonna play quarterback next week.

2177
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 3: You have a week to get him ready. Like, you

2178
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 3: can't go into next week with this game plan now,

2179
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 3: like you have to be.

2180
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 4: The adjusted game plan next week. Yeah, the time of

2181
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 4: Devido inserted in halfway through the game game plan.

2182
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you have to be willing to love

2183
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: to fill the ball twenty times next week, like you

2184
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: if you get a week to get him ready, like

2185
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 2: you have to be able to trust him to do

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01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 2: a little bit more once he's your starting quarterback and

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01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 2: practice during the week.

2188
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I fully agree. But I don't know, man,

2190
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 4: I just feel like the Giants is all around. It's

2191
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 4: a collective effort of just failing situation of football when

2192
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 4: it comes time to like making the play that needs

2193
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 4: to be made, and that's lad in games as before

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01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 4: the half, you know what I mean, Like this is

2195
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 4: happening week in and week out, where when we look

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game, we're sitting there trying

2197
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 4: to point to figure out, like, Okay, what happened. It's

2198
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 4: a collective effort throughout the whole entire game of failed

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Speaker 4: situation of football. And it's decision making. It's players missing

2200
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 4: field goals, it's players doing penalties, not catching the ball, fumbling, like,

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Speaker 4: it's just literally everything that you can think.

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01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 3: Of, hearing a play call from the coach to checking.

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01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 5: Giving them an option now that stuff, you know, and

2204
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 5: it's just and it's like, we're sitting here trying to

2205
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 5: figure this thing out.

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01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 4: When were you take a big step back and just

2207
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 4: look at Like I said, there comes a realization as

2208
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 4: a player when you're playing on a team that's been

2209
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 4: struggling and it hasn't hit you because every team I've

2210
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 4: ever played on, in the beginning of the season, I

2211
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 4: always think that we're gonna have a great year this year.

2212
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,560
Speaker 4: Maybe you say you thinking super Bowl, I mean I

2213
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 4: won two. Not to say when I first came in

2214
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 4: the league, I was like, we're gonna win a super Bowl.

2215
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Speaker 4: But I always felt like we were gonna have a

2216
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 4: good season. And then at some point it gets to

2217
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 4: the point where it's like, oh, we're going to the playoffs,

2218
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 4: or we can win a bowl, or we're not that

2219
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 4: good of a football team. I think that was the

2220
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 4: realization today for a lot of players in that locker room.

2221
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 3: All Right, need to take a time out. We'll come back.

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01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 3: We'll take a few more calls and do a little

2223
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 3: bit more from the locker room as well.

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01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 2: Right here on Pepsi Giants Extra point. We'll be right back.

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01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: Giants loose the Jets in overtime thirteen to ten. Right

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Speaker 2: here on the fat We're back here on Pepsi Giants

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01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 2: extra point. I had fun during the pregame show giving

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01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 2: out our Paramount Plus gift guards. Another throwing season of

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2231
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Speaker 2: for free. Let's got into the locker room one more time.

2232
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence addressed the media after the Giants thirteen to

2233
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 2: ten overtime loss to the Jets.

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01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 8: Would it like just to play this game where it

2235
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 8: was like there wasn't a lot offense? I need to

2236
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 8: side you're going back on the field constantly. You guys

2237
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 8: are obviously not throwing the ball on offense.

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01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 34: Just just being on the outside of that just give

2239
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 34: us more opportunity to make please and you know, show

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Speaker 34: the defense that we are.

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01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 23: That's your Your offense had a chance on fourth and

2242
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 23: one at the end there to go for it and

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01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 23: end the game.

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01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 38: Would you like to see the coach co for it

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01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 38: there and rather than kicking still giving them another chance.

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01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 17: I thought we would, but oh, you've got one of

2247
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 17: the better kickers in the league, so.

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01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 14: I trust that that choice too.

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01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 8: The defensive just played really well the last three games.

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Speaker 7: You got one winder go for it.

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01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 23: How tough is that? That?

2252
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 22: Small?

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01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,560
Speaker 34: Like I said, like you work hard, you know, you

2254
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 34: dominate to come up on the other side. They don't

2255
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 34: feel good?

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01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 7: Does it? Does it make it?

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01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 14: Does it sting?

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01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 36: You know?

2259
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 25: Like like you guys played well for the whole game

2260
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 25: until that last drive, right, Uh? They got you for

2261
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 25: what four players that wanted up bee?

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01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 14: Does that make it harder? Though?

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01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:27,560
Speaker 18: Kind of say, like when your team out of this

2264
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 18: game and played great, even though you did on a hole,

2265
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 18: you know what I mean? Does that spoil a lot.

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01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 17: They have last drive when they come up. I mean,

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01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 17: no way like it?

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01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 34: I mean, nah, I wouldn't say that we dominated all

2269
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 34: game and you know it's you can't play a perfect game,

2270
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 34: and you know you're not gonna beat your stuff over

2271
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 34: from not playing a perfect game. You and you know

2272
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 34: they just they they have they made the players they

2273
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 34: needed to make good at.

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Speaker 14: End of game?

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01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 17: What's the moving in here like this?

2276
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 7: After a game like that?

2277
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 5: Pissed? What you mean?

2278
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 17: You gotta ask you all? How would you feel like that?

2279
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 12: Guys?

2280
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 17: You yeah, alright, yeah, pissed at two and six?

2281
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 25: I mean obviously the pretty much the exact opposite of

2282
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 25: the last year.

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01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 7: So where do you.

2284
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 12: Guys go from here?

2285
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 25: Knowing that the hell is so huge to get out

2286
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 25: of this, to make this irrelevant?

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01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 34: Like season, you know, you keep playing week the week.

2288
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 34: You know you don't know what's gonna happen. Just guta

2289
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 34: keep playing, believe in yourself and his team and you

2290
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 34: know see where we.

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01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 14: Go and be how's that up?

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01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 5: Would you?

2293
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 35: Are you with the losing?

2294
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 15: Now?

2295
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 36: This?

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01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 37: Uh?

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Speaker 14: I hate losing.

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01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 34: I don't know how many times I'll I'll have to

2299
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 34: tell y'all that it doesn't feel good to lose. Doesn't

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01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 34: build a lot of morale when you lose, and it's

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01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 34: no it's harder for a leader to you know, get

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01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 34: the team going after a loss.

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Speaker 5: But you know that's what that's leaders, that's what we

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01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 5: have to do.

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Speaker 10: What would you take a loss like this? You play

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01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 10: the game for a while, you packic and plenty losses.

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Speaker 10: How is this one stack up?

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01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 3: And what do you do?

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Speaker 13: Uh?

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Speaker 34: This is a tough one. It was close closely at

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01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 34: the end. Those always hurt a little more. And what

2312
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 34: do you take from me gotta play better?

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01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 25: Is this is this season salgible? Like you know, because

2314
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 25: you guys want to make a playoffs. So this and

2315
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 25: you know the numbers got probably win nine or ten

2316
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 25: games to make it, getting the nine or ten hours

2317
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 25: a lot of wins and nothing losses.

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01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:25,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean this?

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01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 17: So is this you gotta go go on the streak?

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01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 14: Do you think it is capable of that? I think

2321
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 14: we are just gotta go go on the streak.

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01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 2: That's deck the Lawrence down to the locker room. And

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01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 2: let's listen to one of the other defensive leaders, Zavi McKinney.

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01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 2: After the Giants loss, I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 33: There was in one like one moment where where I

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01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 33: thought the game was over even when we you know,

2327
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 33: did get that sad that I still felt like, you know,

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01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 33: we were gonna have to play all the way through

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01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 33: and obviously for.

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Speaker 7: Theselves, crushing losses for the team in the picture or

2331
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 7: so you know where you're standing now here, you're sure

2332
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 7: two and six downs.

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01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm as big as that, you know, like you're

2334
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 10: sitting there two and six basically headway through the seasons.

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Speaker 17: Uh yeah, man, Like I said, it's tough.

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01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 33: We don't want obviously, we didn't wanna be, you know,

2337
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 33: in this situation, but we are so now.

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01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 17: It's one of those things where.

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01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,640
Speaker 33: We gotta just figure you know, we gotta figure it

2340
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 33: out when we gotta figure out how to scream together

2341
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 33: these wins.

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01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 12: And that's I mean, that's.

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01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 8: Always really Botti molopoxicate game basically, and that the pig

2344
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 8: of that last drive the first pastor Wilson Yeah, but

2345
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 8: just in more of a pregun type coverage or how

2346
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 8: do they Yeah.

2347
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 3: Well yeah, we was we was in pre rent.

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01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, I haven't bang, I mean, I am.

2349
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 33: I really got much comment on you know, all the

2350
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 33: uh you know, the late and the the later game stuff.

2351
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 33: When we got back on the field, that last.

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01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 7: Drive of over time really so I don't know.

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01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 30: Yeah, oh.

2354
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 7: Had a loss like that before, and if so, how'd

2355
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 7: you shake it up?

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01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 33: I mean, yeah, I've lost before and in the moralizing ways,

2357
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 33: you know ways where you know, I didn't really think

2358
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 33: we're gonna lose, but you know, you end up losing

2359
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 33: the game. So it's not the first time that this

2360
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 33: happened before. For us, we just gotta, you know, bounce back.

2361
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 33: That's like with any loss though, just gotta.

2362
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 12: You know, figure out what we can get better, see

2363
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,640
Speaker 12: what we can improve, and you know, move on from it.

2364
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna try to squeeze into quick calls here. Obviously,

2365
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 2: both those guys understandably disappointed. Xavier McKinney representing the coverage

2366
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 2: at the end, it's different than what the Dorry Jackson

2367
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 2: said that we listened to previously, So.

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Speaker 3: Not sure what the take out of that. You want

2369
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 3: to try to clarify that for us, JC, not really.

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01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you're trying to make sense of

2371
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 4: what happened, right, you know, and like sometimes like the

2372
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 4: players could be misconstrued. Sometimes you can have you can

2373
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 4: see it different ways. Sometimes you just say the wrong

2374
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 4: thing and right, and it's not.

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01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,759
Speaker 3: Like somebody radio is in all right, play prevet defense?

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01:44:58,800 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 5: You know?

2377
01:44:59,200 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 23: No?

2378
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well, just considered things differently, right, So we

2379
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 3: got two calls, have been holding on for more than

2380
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 3: a half an hour.

2381
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 2: I feel like I should get these guys in before sayodbyes.

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01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 2: Let's get to them. Tim and Charleston in South Carolina

2383
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 2: will be up first, Tim, How worry about it?

2384
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 32: Jay?

2385
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 24: Kay, guys, you can imagine how devastated I am. But yep,

2386
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 24: and I'm a little horse from yelling defense, defense so

2387
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 24: much of the game. But excuse me, I just want

2388
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 24: to tell you real quick to get a little levity

2389
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 24: about the experience. And then one comment about the game

2390
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 24: is I watched the game at the pub that I

2391
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 24: usually caught all you from during the week. Sorry, I

2392
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 24: just was getting some white clam pizzas, So excuse me

2393
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 24: for the little le.

2394
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 3: Well focus on the Tim, let's go focus on.

2395
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 24: The free So I was there with one other Giants family.

2396
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 24: He was only thirty one years old and fifty I

2397
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 24: can't even eat.

2398
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 5: After a game like this.

2399
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 3: Well, I'm go ahead, go ahead, just just go I'm sorry.

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01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 24: I brought I brought fifty two pigs in a blanket

2401
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 24: and fed everyone and you.

2402
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 3: Know, to make your point, make your point, let's go.

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01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 24: I love my Jets Man friends. Three of them hugged

2404
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 24: me at the end of the game and they told

2405
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:23,640
Speaker 24: me how much they love watching games with me. But

2406
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 24: here's my game point is. You know, at the end

2407
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 24: of the game, I honestly felt we should go for

2408
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 24: the field goal because Graham, you know, has been money.

2409
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 24: But I was a little conflict, and I was like, well,

2410
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 24: maybe we should run it. I knew it wouldn't take

2411
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,560
Speaker 24: much more time off the clock. But I feel like

2412
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 24: when you go back to the Tennessee game at the

2413
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 24: start of last season, when he gambled on winning or

2414
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 24: losing the game with the two point conversion, that maybe

2415
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,679
Speaker 24: they were playing a little bit more not to lose

2416
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 24: than to try to win the game. And also throughout

2417
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 24: the after DeVito came in. You know, I understand all

2418
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,639
Speaker 24: the runs you gotta do, that you got to protect

2419
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 24: the ball, But how about Sa Kwan was doing okay

2420
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 24: on some of those. How about an occasional play action.

2421
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 24: Where was our short fasting game the whole game? It

2422
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 24: was non existent? And I'll take your comments off the area.

2423
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate the call. I'll just say this.

2424
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 2: I think it's a very different decision than that two

2425
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,679
Speaker 2: point good version two calls that have brought up whether

2426
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 2: you're going into overtime, because if you make the field goal,

2427
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 2: the game is pretty much over too.

2428
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 3: You're just choosing on how you want to end the game.

2429
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 3: Do you want to end the game?

2430
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 5: You're putting too much stock on Gano, Gana hasn't been

2431
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 5: good this year, Fellas.

2432
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 3: If you make the field goal, Gnea, has it been

2433
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 3: good this year?

2434
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 2: Fell If you make the field goal the same way,

2435
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 2: if you make one, you ared there's no guarantee you're

2436
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 2: making one yard either.

2437
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 4: True, but that's why you do some backyard stuff where

2438
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 4: you do when you haven't showed it all year, and

2439
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 4: they know you're going to run the football, and the

2440
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 4: last person you're gonna think about is Tommy DeVito doing

2441
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 4: the naked out the backside. I'm just saying, like you're

2442
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 4: conceding and you're relying on things that aren't really true.

2443
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 4: Hasn't been good this year, Fellas. I'm not assuming yes,

2444
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 4: but you're you're breaking it down. Isn't more likely he

2445
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 4: makes or is it more likely you make the fourth

2446
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 4: and one?

2447
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 3: That's the kind.

2448
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,639
Speaker 5: Depends on the plane. It all depends on the play.

2449
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 4: Because Philadelphia has a ninety percent success free on fourth down.

2450
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 4: Of course, your situation is totally different. But I'm just

2451
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 4: saying it's not like, oh my god, I would rather

2452
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 4: kick it rather kick it with who with Graham Ganov

2453
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,759
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty two or Graham Ganov of twenty.

2454
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 3: Twenty That's point. Let's use a little math in trying

2455
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 3: to decipher the deal here.

2456
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 37: Like John said, what are you gonna run four or

2457
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 37: five seconds off the clock with a running play?

2458
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 3: Well, what did the Jets do?

2459
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 37: They spike the ball with one second left in regulation,

2460
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 37: So those four or five seconds that you ran off

2461
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,799
Speaker 37: the clock on a running play would have mattered.

2462
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 3: That's number one.

2463
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not gonna be four or

2464
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 2: five seconds. It's not gonna be four five seconds because

2465
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 2: you're running it into the line. That play's gonna take

2466
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 2: a three four seconds.

2467
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 37: Hopefully you don't run it straight up into somebody's backside.

2468
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:01,679
Speaker 37: Hopefully you're able to go around running the outside sweep.

2469
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 5: Now, like I said, there there's misdirection.

2470
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 4: Please that you get you because mister, this will take

2471
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 4: five They have been running the ball straight to the play.

2472
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 2: But the field goal took four seconds off the clock, right,

2473
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,640
Speaker 2: all right, all right, but I'm going to give you

2474
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 2: something else.

2475
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm not buying the time, miss.

2476
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 2: You missed the field goal. You just gave them seven yards.

2477
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 2: Seven yards is fine, but seven yards really didn't matter

2478
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 2: in the end. If you want to go by your logic, uh,

2479
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 2: you don't know, you don't know what I mean forty different.

2480
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 3: But if they start to drive seven yards.

2481
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 37: Back, who else, who else is going to change how

2482
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 37: you play? Maybe maybe it means they got to use

2483
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 37: another pass to get down and again. Again, I'm not

2484
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 37: trying to make I'm not trying to make it out

2485
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:43,799
Speaker 37: like it was a decision.

2486
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 2: Don't go go by the way. I think this is

2487
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 2: a good debate. Like we're not doing anything wrong here.

2488
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 5: This is what fans are doing.

2489
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 3: This is fine, You're right, I think I think it's

2490
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 3: basically a coin flip decision.

2491
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm taking the other way strong because you guys are

2492
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 2: taking the other way strong, and I will I have

2493
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 2: both perspectives here.

2494
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 3: I totally get fans Kona bask there's no wrong answer.

2495
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah, it's really no wrong answer.

2496
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 5: And Matt who besides what happened.

2497
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, obviously besides the result. Matt, one of

2498
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 2: our assistant producers, went back. He looked Ganoan bad weather.

2499
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,640
Speaker 2: Kicking field goals this year versus fourth and one or

2500
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 2: two yards this year, same percentage identical sixty six percent.

2501
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 2: Sixty six percent make it on the fourth and one,

2502
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 2: sixty six percent make the field goal. Literally, the numbers

2503
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: are identical. Right, So Quin flipping quilp right. So again,

2504
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 2: I see both ways. I'm not trying to make like

2505
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 2: it's an obvious decision. I'm just trying to give the

2506
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: other perspective because you guys.

2507
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 37: Are more on the go forth, and everybody's allowed to

2508
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 37: have their own opinion of something that makes sense both ways.

2509
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap this up with our final call.

2510
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 2: Scott and Wayne Scott, what's up?

2511
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 24: Hey?

2512
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 29: You guys were going back and forth earlier about the

2513
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 29: punting game. Jamie Gain hasn't kicked the ball straight other

2514
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 29: than straight down the field all season, and then today

2515
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 29: they went to this hurry up out of the huddle

2516
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 29: to get him a ball on a wet game. Not

2517
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 29: one of his balls stayed in bounds. Every one of

2518
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 29: his kicks went thirty five yards and out of bounds.

2519
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 3: He had tea two or three of those at the end,

2520
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 3: but it wasn't every kick.

2521
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 37: Thirteen punts a net of forty points seven and five

2522
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 37: inside the twenty with a long of fifty eight. You know,

2523
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 37: there was one he really shanked that took me off.

2524
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 37: I think maybe two he maybe he might have had.

2525
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 37: There was another one that wasn't great.

2526
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 15: You know what.

2527
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 2: No, he shanked the one, but they got lucky, busy

2528
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: bounceston and led a twenty yards. You're right, cursor, You're right.

2529
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 37: So you know, if you want to go after, if

2530
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 37: you want to go after Jamie Gallopton, you're going after

2531
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 37: the wrong guy.

2532
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't, I don't. I don't think this is on.

2533
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 3: I don't think this is Jamie Gillen, all right.

2534
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,160
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2539
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 2: We'll look ahead the next week's game against the Raiders

2540
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 2: and try to figure out what we can as to

2541
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 2: what this team might look like when they travel out

2542
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 2: to Las Vegas, and uh, there's a lot of gambling

2543
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 2: metaphors on when we.

2544
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 3: Start talking about that. Will we come back on Pepsi

2545
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 3: Giants extra point?

2546
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 5: Right after this, Jets.

2547
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 20: Wilson, in a shot gun set defense has to make

2548
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 20: another stop with the Giants up ten seven.

2549
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 19: Wilson takes the stop flags on the play fires went

2550
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 19: over the middle.

2551
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 20: Garrett Wilson makes the packs on the Giant forty six.

2552
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 2: And that all sides penalty stopped the clock and gave

2553
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: the Jets seventeen seconds to make that one last play

2554
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 2: down inside the Giants red zone to kick the game

2555
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 2: winning field role. And that's why we selected that as

2556
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 2: the Giants turning one of the game. Listen to Boomer

2557
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 2: and Geo on our flagstip station WFN to tomorrow morning

2558
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:02,639
Speaker 2: in the nine am hour for the Giants Turning Point

2559
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 2: of the game contest. The first correct call it a

2560
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 2: name the game's turning point will win two tickets to

2561
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 2: an upcoming Giants home game. John Schmult pulled a Tino

2562
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 2: Jonathan Casias Pepsi Giants extra point.

2563
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 3: Giants fall to the Jets in overtime thirteen to ten.

2564
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we had some big picture questions to

2565
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence and Xavier McKinney downstairs.

2566
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 3: Two and six now obviously not a great position to

2567
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 3: be in. I looked at it before the game.

2568
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 2: Only two teams have ever made the or since nineteen

2569
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 2: seventy part of me have made the playoffs after starting

2570
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 2: two and six. Both those teams I believe won their

2571
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: divisions in really weak divisions, you know, one of those

2572
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 2: years with you know, team wins a division at eight

2573
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 2: eight or seven to nine.

2574
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 3: Something like that. So how do you now kind of

2575
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 3: move forward with this?

2576
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 2: You just gotta win the game ahead of yet, I

2577
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 2: don't think there's any other thing you can say besides that.

2578
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 2: You guys can comment on that if you want. But

2579
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 2: I think now next week at Las Vegas, we'll just

2580
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 2: be monitoring the quarterbacks Paul all week to see who

2581
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 2: might be healthy enough to play. And in addition to that,

2582
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to bring in some warm bodies on

2583
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 2: Monday one or two in order to have just a

2584
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 2: backup quarterback on the roster that's healthy. If Daniel Jones

2585
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 2: and Tyronn Taylor are not healthy enough to play next.

2586
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 37: Week, right, And you know, I was thinking that you

2587
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:19,640
Speaker 37: know who does Dable and Kafka know that's still on

2588
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 37: the street, so that they'd have a chance to pick

2589
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 37: up the system in such a short period of time.

2590
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 2: And they did have some quarterbacks in the workout after

2591
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 2: the initial Daniel Jones.

2592
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 5: They did have some.

2593
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 37: Workout guys, including Matt Barkley, the former USC quarterback. But

2594
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 37: in terms of guys, he was in Buffalo, correct, I

2595
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 37: don't remember that. I know Jake fromm was in Buffalo

2596
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 37: at one point, and of course he was here with

2597
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 37: the Giants and that didn't work out so well when

2598
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 37: he wound up having to play. So yeah, no name,

2599
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 37: no name comes to mind. No name comes to mind.

2600
01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 3: And Barkley, by the way, was in Buffalo from eighteen

2601
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 3: to t He was was there with Brian would probably

2602
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 3: be so that is I mean, because he doesn't have

2603
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 3: a lot of time now.

2604
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 2: I understand why that was the name brought up at

2605
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: the press conferences earlier, but I was looking for.

2606
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 4: That does make sense because if you have Tommy DeVito

2607
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 4: as QB number one, which which will happen if both

2608
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 4: you know QB Daniel Jones and Tyrod Taylor is out,

2609
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito is QB one. No matter who you bring in,

2610
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 4: you need a QB but you need you have to

2611
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 4: have a QB two. And we were off Matt.

2612
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 37: Ryan staying in television. And I don't think they're calling

2613
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 37: Carson Wentz. I mean, I mean, at this point, don't

2614
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 37: you call everybody? No, No, I'm not trying to be funny.

2615
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 37: You might be down to one quarterback. I mean, you

2616
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 37: got to have open lines here, don't you. I mean,

2617
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 37: everybody's on the table is a potential option though.

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01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 4: And you know what, you know what, I know what,

2619
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 4: h And I don't want to scare all the Giants fans.

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01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 4: We have no idea the significance of Tyrod Taylor's injury.

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01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: You know that's tor Benjerin. He stole in the hotse

2622
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 2: but all on their observation, So that's not a great sign.

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01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 2: We've just seen doctor after doctor during his whole career.

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01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 30: You know what.

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01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 37: Let can I just say this one thing about Tyrod Taylor.

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01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 37: He's a great guy, first class pro's pro, great work ethic,

2627
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 37: great demeanor, great teammate, tremendous resilience for lasting this long

2628
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 37: in the league.

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01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 2: One of those soft spoken guys, but when he says

2630
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 2: carries yes people and to be able to endure so

2631
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 2: many different teams, so many different injuries, so many different

2632
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 2: opportunities that got taken from him because of circumstances and injuries,

2633
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 2: and he does nothing but smile and say I'm happy

2634
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 2: to be here and I'll do whatever i can.

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01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 3: Great teammate. I can't say enough about him. Let me

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01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 3: just throw that out there right now. No, I think

2637
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 3: that's good.

2638
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 2: All right, So guys, give me your thoughts for Vegas

2639
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 2: next week and then we'll wrap the sucker up.

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01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 5: That's it.

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01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 4: Look, I think these guys need to go ahead and

2642
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 4: you know start like I think what Pew has done

2643
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 4: with the offensive line. They're doing their Thursday dinners. You know,

2644
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 4: this is the point where the season, like I said,

2645
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 4: the realization of you know, we are a bad team

2646
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 4: or we're not that good of a football team. I

2647
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 4: think that has to hit most of the guys. But

2648
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 4: if you stay together, because they don't want to listen

2649
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 4: to us, they shouldn't be listening to us, They shouldn't

2650
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 4: be listening to Twitter and Instagram and all of those

2651
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 4: people that they say is us out there they should

2652
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 4: just be listening to themselves figuring out how they can

2653
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 4: improve with each other without the outside noise. So I

2654
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 4: think the thing that Peugh does, he's doing a weekly

2655
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 4: dinner with the offensive players. Yeah, and that's going to help,

2656
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 4: you know, build that chemistry because you need to have

2657
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 4: that not just in the beginning of the season, but

2658
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 4: throughout the season, especially when it gets time, when it

2659
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 4: gets rough. And this is time of adversity right now

2660
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 4: that they're going through, and they have to go ahead

2661
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 4: and look inward, not just inside themselves personally, but also

2662
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 4: towards each other and look to kind of barricate each

2663
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 4: other from the outside world because they're gonna get a

2664
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 4: lot of heat and rightfully so.

2665
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think too.

2666
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: I sent some frustration from McKinny and Dexter on the

2667
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. Look the defense the last

2668
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 2: few games, they feld the Jets to thirteen points. The

2669
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 2: Commanders is seven points. You go back to the Bills

2670
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 2: game they held them to just fourteen points, came and

2671
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: they're one and two. I'd be frustrated too, I get it, Paul.

2672
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 2: Your thoughts going next weekend, both the Seattle game, even

2673
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks before that. Yeah, right, because the

2674
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 2: pick six. They really held Seatole to what seventeen points

2675
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 2: in that game? I think they finished a twenty four Seattle.

2676
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 37: Well, there was the pick six and there was the

2677
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 37: one busted played down the secon right, so.

2678
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 2: It was only it was only really they held them

2679
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 2: to basically ten points because they turned the tens again.

2680
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 3: They they really held them to ten points in that game.

2681
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 37: You're right, absolutely, So it's been a month of really

2682
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 37: really much better defense than what we saw in the

2683
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 37: first month of the season.

2684
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 2: The only game is the Dolphins game, but just throw

2685
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 2: that went out, but the other four had been really good.

2686
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 2: It's more like what we expected from opening day from

2687
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 2: this Giants defense.

2688
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 3: This is the kind of defense that should keep you

2689
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 3: in a playoff race.

2690
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:54,959
Speaker 37: But it is what it is right now. John, I'll

2691
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 37: be honest, I'm probably as shell shocked as the guys

2692
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 37: in the locker room right now. I don't know that

2693
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 37: I have any answers going.

2694
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 3: Forward as a lot of us off unfortunately. You know,

2695
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm being brutally frank with you here, I really am.

2696
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 37: I'm shell shocked, and you know, I gotta go back

2697
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 37: and watch this tape just like the coaches do, and

2698
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 37: I gotta go through it, and I'm probably gonna see

2699
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 37: a ton of things that were really good, and then

2700
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 37: I'm also gonna see a few things that are gonna

2701
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 37: make me want to throw things across the room and

2702
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 37: smash them into a.

2703
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 3: Wall, because that's the way these games make you feel.

2704
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think there's gonna be a couple of plays, Paul.

2705
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean defensively, there's gonna be three plays that body

2706
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 2: at the end. Offensively, you're not gonna get much out

2707
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 2: of it, because you know, they basically shut things.

2708
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 3: You know, they just ran the ball once. You know,

2709
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 3: Tyron Taylor.

2710
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,680
Speaker 37: Got trust me, trust me on those those eight three

2711
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 37: and outs, I'll be bashing my fist against the desk.

2712
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 3: Trust me, fair enough?

2713
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, thanks for being with us today on

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