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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, welcome on in on a

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Speaker 1: great morning.

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Speaker 2: And for me, it's a great morning because I get

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Speaker 2: an interview. One of my guys I looked up to

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Speaker 2: in this league had a sixteen year career.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Lord, how do I get there?

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Speaker 2: And now I'm heading the year fifteen, So you know,

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we're fighting either way. We talked about

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Speaker 2: mister Andrew Whitworth, a Louisiana native himself. Well, I guess

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Speaker 2: I'm not a native because he's moved out to California.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if they claim me anymore.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Louisian's very own Super Bowl champ fifty

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Speaker 2: six with the.

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 2: Walk off home running was what I call it, you know,

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Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. Hey, I'm retired. You've had a

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Speaker 2: hell of career as a four time pro bowler, you know,

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Speaker 2: going to East West Shrine Shrine game. Oh college, gay,

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Speaker 2: I love, I love when I get a little college

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Speaker 2: things already, you know, inducted to the Louisiana Sports Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Again, it was a very own native.

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Speaker 2: But like you know, Walter Payton NFL Man of the

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Speaker 2: Year twenty twenty one, same year you want a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Just a that's a good little week, you know, solid,

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Speaker 1: solid as they come.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you to tapping in with it with the

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Speaker 2: podcast Off the Edge of Me, your host and now

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Speaker 2: my guy Andrew Whitworth. When I say I'm just excited

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Speaker 2: for you to come in, I mean, everybody knows you're

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Speaker 2: a great guy, you know, and and the battles that

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Speaker 2: we've had when you were at the Rams were fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, I got I actually got to I

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Speaker 2: actually got to play on your side, which, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're a left tackle. I think one of the games

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Speaker 2: at the Rams, I came over, I was given haven't

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I'm going over there. They

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Speaker 2: started running your way and I was like.

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Speaker 1: I need that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are good days.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, in the Coliseum we were the well I guess

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Speaker 4: you know so far it's been that way a little

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Speaker 4: bit too. But unfortunately the Coliseum we were always the

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Speaker 4: away team, even though we were playing at home with

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Speaker 4: the fans.

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Speaker 3: That was rough.

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Speaker 4: Silent count at home is just a it's a good

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Speaker 4: way to just really take an ego just cut it

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Speaker 4: right now?

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Speaker 1: How does yeah, how does that work? Because LA fans

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Speaker 1: are there for the event?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean it's La.

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Speaker 4: Listen. I will say this. I always said this when

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Speaker 4: I wish more showed up in some of those situations

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Speaker 4: where we had a bigger fan base. But when you

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Speaker 4: moved the team to Saint Louis and you move it

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Speaker 4: all the way back, you've kind of done.

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Speaker 3: That yourself a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And let's be honest, if I was sitting there saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: So there's some pretty cool cool spots to going.

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Speaker 1: There's not. I don't care what it is. If football

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Speaker 1: is always king.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, clearly I'm biased. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing I'd rather do than go watch football.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'll watch football.

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Speaker 4: I'll just watch it from Malibu at the beach while

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Speaker 2: I want the energy like when I see the energy,

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Speaker 2: I want that so like you know, but you've seen,

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Speaker 2: You can't catch set energy from the from the TV set.

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Speaker 2: Sitting at the crib, being at a at a bar is.

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Speaker 1: Not hitting the same.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's still one of the most epic

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Speaker 4: Winning the National Championship at unless you in New Orleans

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Speaker 1: I could believe that I was like two things, that

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Speaker 2: Support their Saints and if bat Rouge on up, support

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Speaker 1: Yes sir, and yeah national chimps could be I could imagine, Oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's just say, you know, we didn't have nil then,

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Speaker 3: Man assure you that for sure, look at it.

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Speaker 2: I already knew, like I said, sec, yeah, you ain't

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Speaker 3: To everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like come on stop it. But uh, you've been

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Speaker 2: How do you compare that to Walter paper Man NFL

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Speaker 3: Something got to happen.

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Speaker 4: Then it's like all right, you know I Cooper cup

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Speaker 3: Just that whole night was pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: I hear you been pushing for you know, in an

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Speaker 4: your best game is when nobody knows who you are,

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Speaker 4: these guys are worthy of being recognized for their individual

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Speaker 3: Excellence in a season. And so that's really the basis

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you say, you know, individual war for off

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Speaker 2: the lineman, I just I'm always on the counter of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, but it's a group effort for them.

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Speaker 2: he's the reason why they won the football game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, it's not really within a football game, it's excellence. Right,

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Speaker 4: So like defensive lineman for example, we can combat here

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Speaker 4: if we want to say truest measure of performance consistency

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Speaker 4: Like you on your own, like the rest of the offense, Like,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's really what it's for. It's just

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Speaker 3: Super old oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you got all the award? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think the idea is to keep it to something

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Speaker 3: No names.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, that's what I'm all about. I want people

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Speaker 1: Recognized off of the lineman.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: think that's now with how much the passing game is,

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Speaker 4: there's two rare guys, but but you know, if you

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you'd agree that. I even think it end

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Speaker 4: to most of these teams is if it's free agency

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Speaker 4: In two years we're going to just got to be something,

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Speaker 4: or is it an immediate need. If it's immediate need,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: I ate Joe Walt last year. I thought played really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about as is the fan of me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, give me a splash player and the defensi

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Speaker 1: And once I knew those those stats, I was like,

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Speaker 4: It's the wild part I think people don't realize is

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Speaker 4: give me an explosive player. But I think the biggest

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Speaker 4: I think this is a huge thing because obviously I

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Speaker 4: back and like, they're still going to have some contribution,

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Speaker 4: They're still gonna have some opportunity to help the certain

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Speaker 4: skills they have, right absolutely, But when you miss on

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Speaker 3: Right, You're two.

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Speaker 2: Years in just buried them into the depth chart, trying

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Speaker 2: Like why would you draft him?

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Speaker 4: Then you better get that right. And I want a

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Speaker 4: line that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Who you know, and the right coach to develop them.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 2: It is super important, especially with young young guys in

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Speaker 1: I think like, if he's fast, he's fast.

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Speaker 1: Set them up with a vet that knows how to

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Speaker 1: change the sets. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. What is your stance on the Packers the toush push?

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Speaker 2: Why is everybody so against it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't really.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those that I just don't even think about.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those I don't understand the idea to

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Speaker 4: it doesn't look like a normal football player that we're

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Speaker 3: It's like, all right, well, you know.

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Speaker 4: You took away that right on field goal, even though

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Speaker 4: that doesn't count as a regular play, Like we're defensive,

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Speaker 4: it's like, hey, it wasn't fun, but you just held

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Speaker 4: but that doesn't pertain to you know, down in and

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Speaker 3: It's a special team's play.

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Speaker 4: But to me, it's like, why would you take that

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Speaker 4: the same idea. But I think that their truth is

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Speaker 1: They being the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles are really good at it.

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Speaker 1: Really, that's it. But it only works with Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you know, the Philadelphia Eagles do it with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean that's what I mean. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's silly to get rid of it. I

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Speaker 4: I think we're wasting our time just with something that

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Speaker 2: Absolutely if you don't like it, get them out of

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Speaker 2: that's that I hear you talk about. You know, you've

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Speaker 2: does that do with your relationship off the field.

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00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been it's been. Uh, it's been cool.

441
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,680
Speaker 4: You know, Sean and I this offseason kind of started

442
00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,280
Speaker 4: training together in the mornings throughout the week, early in

443
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,879
Speaker 4: the morning, sometimes five, five thirty six, kind of depends

444
00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,119
Speaker 4: on when his morning meetings start. But uh, yeah, I

445
00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,000
Speaker 4: have a gym out here in LA that Cooper Cup

446
00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,600
Speaker 4: myself got named Ryan Sorenson is our trainer, and and

447
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,000
Speaker 4: some other families kind of just went in together and

448
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,879
Speaker 4: started our own little private spot where we wanted to

449
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,399
Speaker 4: train at. We were during COVID, kind of started from COVID.

450
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,760
Speaker 4: We had all basically Ryan had trained all of us.

451
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,960
Speaker 4: He used to be one of the top guys at

452
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,920
Speaker 4: Proactive and he left and kind of did his own deal.

453
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,880
Speaker 4: He was training people in their garages. So we had all,

454
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,320
Speaker 4: like because of COVID, built like these garage gyms. Everybody

455
00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,240
Speaker 4: had him, you know, all the players and you know,

456
00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,040
Speaker 4: at one time we were kicked out of our facilities

457
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,520
Speaker 4: for a while, and so we all kind of built

458
00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,240
Speaker 4: our own spots. And then Christian Yelich, baseball player for

459
00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,159
Speaker 4: the Brewers, also trained with Ryan, so he had his

460
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,840
Speaker 4: own spot. We were sitting there were like, man like,

461
00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,800
Speaker 4: I'm ready to get out of my garage working out,

462
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,720
Speaker 4: and it was like it's been long enough. You know,

463
00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,639
Speaker 4: Christians got all this equipment, Coopskyll's equipment I got was like,

464
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,159
Speaker 4: do why don't we just get a place together and

465
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,520
Speaker 4: put all this in here. It's gonna be the best

466
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,760
Speaker 4: weight room in the area because we got everything, Like

467
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,399
Speaker 4: we've all we've all had plenty of money to buy

468
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,040
Speaker 4: lots of equipment, So we put it all together and

469
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 4: got our own, got ourselves a spot, and Ryan trains

470
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,479
Speaker 4: all his clients there. It's called the Village atg and

471
00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,399
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's awesome, you know. I named it

472
00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,159
Speaker 4: that because it's kind of those village of people that

473
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 4: have been a part of my whole career and it's fun.

474
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 4: It's cool that that we opened a year ago and

475
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,000
Speaker 4: it's already become like Sean trains there, which obviously is

476
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 4: a mass part of my career, like Cooper and Pookah

477
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,359
Speaker 4: and Tyler Higbee and and uh you know, Xavier and

478
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 4: Rob Hanstein and a lot that got the old line

479
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,280
Speaker 4: now come in there and train with Ryan and uh,

480
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,240
Speaker 4: you know, and then still a circle of families that

481
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,959
Speaker 4: we did it with. So it really is like our

482
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 4: village of people that we've kind of gotten to know

483
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,920
Speaker 4: and live with in La that are all still in there.

484
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 3: And so it's been really fun. Man.

485
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 4: It's it's a good opportunity for me as an old

486
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,880
Speaker 4: head that's out of the game now to be sitting

487
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 4: on my treadmill doing my little incline walls.

488
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,119
Speaker 1: Hey, are you partaking in the workouts?

489
00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 3: Oh? I work out in the mornings with Sean. We

490
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 3: get after.

491
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 4: I'm already getting injured. I had the head trainer of

492
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,359
Speaker 4: the Rams called me to the day. He goes, Hey, listen,

493
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 4: we got to talk. I got what what's up? He goes, Man,

494
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 4: you are forty three, you played seventeen thousand snaps the NFL.

495
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 4: You've called me more now retired than than I talked

496
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,680
Speaker 4: to you when you played with injuries.

497
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 3: Like, what are we doing?

498
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 4: Like, let's let's let's stop, Let's go play golf. Kids

499
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 4: going to the treadmill. I'm like, listen, I got a daughter

500
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 4: about to be a freshman in high school. I'm getting

501
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 4: ready for war, you know what I mean. Like, listen,

502
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 4: I hope we're going back to Barbarian days.

503
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 1: All right.

504
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be ready right now. But that that

505
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 4: that's really it. It's become. It's awesome, man, It's the time.

506
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 4: I could spend a lot of time up there, hang

507
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 4: out with guys, still have kind of that locker room

508
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 4: feel and also working out, which is just a part

509
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 4: of my passion in life to being being good shape

510
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 4: and get after it.

511
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 1: I feel like the only reason I know this guy

512
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 1: saw like Sean McVay.

513
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah like three sixty or something doing Yeah, yeah, we're

514
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 4: doing squats. Yeah he got he got a lot of

515
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 4: fame for that.

516
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 3: You know.

517
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 4: Our trainer actually took those videos and we had no idea.

518
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 4: He posted them on his socially and it was like,

519
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 4: oh no, So I later the text around, I go, wait,

520
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 4: did you post those?

521
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 3: He goes yeah, And I'm like, oh boy, this is

522
00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 3: a I knew.

523
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 4: I already knew Sean doing backsquads is going to go viral,

524
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 4: and sure enough it did.

525
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. I mean he was working out like

526
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: he was trying to be young.

527
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 4: Oh listen, he you know, I mean you've been around it.

528
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 4: He believes in himself a lot, so he's already like,

529
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 4: you know, pretty soul that he could like go out

530
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 4: there and run with the guys. Now say, man, we

531
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 4: get to to He's like, the guys are going to

532
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 4: be impressed. Man, I'm put together right now. I'm like, okay, down,

533
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 4: com down.

534
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: It's something to say though, you know, like I've had.

535
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 3: He loves it, man, Yeah, it is good.

536
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 4: You think of these coaches, Man, we talk about all

537
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 4: the time, like the stress that's involved with those jobs.

538
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 4: And you're always in the building, You're always watching tape,

539
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 4: You're always like kind of sitting in there having these

540
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: conversations where you're constantly pushing yourself mentally and physically to

541
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 4: really like understand what's that next step, what's the next

542
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: thing that we can do, what's the next advantage we

543
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 4: can get? And it's high stress and and a lot

544
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: of expectation, like we know it. Through social media, through everything,

545
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 4: we see a lot of mental health stuff. And so

546
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 4: I think for him, it's been this awesome like, Man,

547
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 4: get out of my own building and just go get

548
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 4: a workout in with somebody I love and want to

549
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 4: be around, and kind of just have my fellowship time

550
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 4: and then I can kind of, you know, drive the

551
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: facility and kind of reset myself before I go into work.

552
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 4: And so I think it's really that opportunity for him

553
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 4: to kind of just mental health type man, just get

554
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 4: myself in a good place before I walk in that door.

555
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: Maybe conditioning he does get in with.

556
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 4: The team's feeling good, he's he's running on the tread.

557
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: He's trying to hit his top speeds. He thinks he can.

558
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,959
Speaker 4: I got he's gonna he's gonna get in there, and uh,

559
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna try to run some routes for receivers.

560
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess that's gonna be my guess because it

561
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 4: feels like he's moving right now.

562
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

563
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 2: Look, I remember one year Sean Payton got gotten like

564
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: super shaped, super fit shape, and like we were doing

565
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: some CrossFit, you know, cross condition respect guy yay, and

566
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: he like he knocked it out with the team, and

567
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: I was like as many guys as was gripe, and

568
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, you can't let this old man

569
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: beat you.

570
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: Man, you get beat by the head coach, right.

571
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: But I was like, A great, he's been doing this,

572
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: he's been training for this one of in one situation.

573
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 1: But that's that's amazing. Brouh.

574
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: A trailer for episode one of the Training at the

575
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: Villages came out recently, So yeah, I.

576
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: Said, this is a production.

577
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Coop and Pooka and them have had a

578
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: guy kind of doing content on their workouts.

579
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: You know.

580
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 4: The receivers man they they're good at that stuff. So uh,

581
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: they've been doing that for a while. And he came

582
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 4: to me, he was like, man, can I make kind

583
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: of a you know, a little episode of basically Cooper

584
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 4: and Pooka and you know, with Cooper leaving and going

585
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 4: to Seattle, And he's like, I'd love to kind of

586
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,719
Speaker 4: document you know, their training together and then before he leaves,

587
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 4: and so uh, he was able to put that together,

588
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 4: and then you know, he showed a little short of

589
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 4: it the other day of Cooper's last day in the gym,

590
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 4: which was was tough.

591
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: Man.

592
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: I mean, we've played long enough, man, you know, it's

593
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 4: a you know, we played, both of us have played

594
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 4: long enough where you get those moments where there's those

595
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: guys that leave or go somewhere else or career ins

596
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 4: and you're like, man, that one, that one, that one

597
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 4: hurt a little bit. And so Coop obviously just you know,

598
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 4: he came here as a rookie in seventeen when I

599
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: came in free agency, so I've kind of been with

600
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 4: him since he got there. His impact, the man he is,

601
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: the way he does things is so rare and so special.

602
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: So to kind of see the emotions of him knowing

603
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 4: this kind of his last days. He's kind of going

604
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: up to Seattle to make that his home and get

605
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 4: ready to play for the Seahawks. It was it was

606
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: an emotional day, but also like a rush of all

607
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: the good memories. I mean, we kind of meet Matthew

608
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: Stafford came up and watched it too, watched his workout,

609
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 4: Me and him watched him work out and getting caught

610
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: the fellowship with him after and it's just like to

611
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: talk about all the good times and some of the

612
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: good emotions and fun times off the field. I think

613
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: sometimes people only think of like football, but you know,

614
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 4: we're thinking the breakfast or the dinners we went to,

615
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: or just different moments where funny stuff's happened. It was

616
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: good to kind of sit and just have a moment

617
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: about some of that.

618
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: At the village.

619
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: You welcome anytime, you Man.

620
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: If only I worked out for real, you know, I'm

621
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: big on running.

622
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: I just want to run.

623
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: I just want to be skinny, and I love that

624
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: I'm already Big Big comes eas here.

625
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: We always gonna be BIG's same trainer. I tell my

626
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: Regie Scotty.

627
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 4: He told me, hey, listen, man, I walked in one

628
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 4: day He's like, I know you've been really getting after it,

629
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 4: trying to stay lean and stuff. He goes, can I

630
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 4: just tell you something? I said, what's that, Reggie? He goes,

631
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 4: You're gonna die in a big box? And I was like, thanks, Rich,

632
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: it's but He's like, no matter what, Bro, you always

633
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 4: gonna be big. Just get get used to it.

634
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to be ready.

635
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 3: I ain't changed. I could be Okay, I could be

636
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 3: why any big?

637
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: All right, it's Katy b Yeah, I'm already gonna be wide, Like,

638
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: let me not be round and one exactly, you know.

639
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the East West Shrine Bowl Hall of Fame.

640
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah that was. That was a really cool experience. Man.

641
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: Got to go down there, go to Dallas. Uh that's

642
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: where they had it this year.

643
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 4: When I was in it, it was in San Antonio,

644
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 4: little remember being in Yeah, a little different setting, but yeah,

645
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: I was in Dallas.

646
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: It was a really cool experience. Eddie George is there.

647
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 4: Got to hang out with him for a while and uh, man,

648
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 4: that was that was really cool.

649
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: It was neat to be there, be in that setting.

650
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: And that also brings back those Russian of emotions right

651
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: when I'm twenty twenty one, twenty two, and I'm thinking, man,

652
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: how am I probably going to play in the NFL?

653
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: Like what does that even mean?

654
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: What? No, that was that was a confidence booster.

655
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: Listen.

656
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: I was at that game, like man, lsu No. I

657
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 4: was confident on the field. But when I'm sitting there

658
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: thinking about the draft and the expectation like that kind

659
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: of stuff, You're like, man, you know, you're always living

660
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 4: in that world, like what do I gotta do to

661
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 4: make sure I'm ready for whatever it is that's in

662
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 4: front of you. You know, there's a lot of nerves

663
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: and pressure to like train and get after your and

664
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: get after it and be like, all right, I'm gonna

665
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: be prepared for anything, and little do you know, you're

666
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: gonna get there and every single days you may learn

667
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 4: no matter what, but you just gotta be a warrior and.

668
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 3: Get after it.

669
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 4: So you had some anxieties, Oh buddy, I've always been

670
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 4: that way really yeah. Oh yeah, always wired up. But

671
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: that's what drives me. I Mean, my daughter and I

672
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 4: just had some conversations. She tried out for her high

673
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: school dance team yesterday, and I just had a conversation

674
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 4: where like, go Hey, you've been nerved up, but you've

675
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: been practicing like I mean literally three four hours, three

676
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: nights a week. Like you're exhausted. You have to get

677
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 4: share therapy and stuff because your ankles and your feet

678
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: are also messed up with so much dancing. And I

679
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: was like, and that's all driven from nerves. And I said,

680
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: Daddy was that way, I like, my nerves are would

681
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: make me. I would never quit. I would train till

682
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 4: I couldn't take it anymore. And I would work out

683
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 4: and prepare and watch tape and all this stuff. And

684
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: I was like, but the day of it, that's when

685
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: I like woo sah, and it's like, oh yeah, like

686
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: this this is what I like. I'd always remember when

687
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: I was in Cincinnati. I would get our tunnel. I

688
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: would get in that tunnel and we always like I

689
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 4: would sit around wait for a second, and I'd always

690
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: have this yawn. I would like yawn and I would

691
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: smile and be like, oh man, this is like this

692
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: is literally like oh man, I almost got I got

693
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: so relaxed that I'm like I've put all the work

694
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: in and now it was just now it was time.

695
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: Now this is like what I love to do. So

696
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: it's like that feeling.

697
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: And so I could see in her like she was excited,

698
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 4: like today's the day to go show what I've done,

699
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: you know, And that was cool to just kind of

700
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: see her be in that moment.

701
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's crazy to think about it. It

702
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: was like you were you played sixteen years in the league.

703
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got I seen Kim our position is

704
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: nothing but anxious. It's like the only thing I can

705
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: do is jump early, hold or give up a sack.

706
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: So it's like it's like, man, you know, all I

707
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: can do is make a mistake.

708
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: Right, Nobody even knows if I do my job, So

709
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: the only thing you can do is make a mistake.

710
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: So alignment are always anxious.

711
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that I see a lot of

712
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: old line.

713
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 4: That's why when y'all get off on the count fast,

714
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: we fall apart because we're so anxious we started stepping

715
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: all over ourselves.

716
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: Or would used to get me was like the Channa

717
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: Jones not get off, like yeah, like he'd delay his

718
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: get off, and I'm like, like my whole life I've

719
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: been born on like yep, first reaction, first reaction, time

720
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: to count.

721
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 4: He was a pattern guy. So I used to do

722
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: that off the white. You know, I faced channel a lot,

723
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: had a lot of success against him. And Jared Goff

724
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 4: came out one day to walk through we're about to

725
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: play him, and this is Jared Young.

726
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: Jared like, yeah, two or three.

727
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: And he's like, what in the world are you doing?

728
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: And I'm out there mimicking Chandler's moves and he's like, wait,

729
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: what are you doing? And I'm like, so, Chandler Jones,

730
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: you want to understand this. But he's a rhythm and

731
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 4: pattern guy. So what I do when I play people's

732
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: like I was never in the NFL some guy who's

733
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: like an explosive, get off the ball guy. I learned

734
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: to study people's habits and patterns. So I would block

735
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: people in the pattern that they move in, so like

736
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 4: I would move my feet when rhythm with how they move,

737
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: like dancing.

738
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: So I would take.

739
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 4: Sets when I played Chandler really slow, and I would

740
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 4: speed up as I knew his pattern of when exactly

741
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 4: his long arm was going to hit me, and so

742
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: I would literally like boom boom, boom boom, like because

743
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 4: I knew that that was the dance that he was

744
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: going to take so that's how I blocked him. So

745
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 4: I had to when I would play him those weeks,

746
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 4: I had to ingrain that pattern so I would be

747
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 4: him rather than taking sets, because I would just keep

748
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: ingraining in my mind the timing of when that long

749
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: arm happens and when he pulls and gets himself around,

750
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: and I would just train myself to be ready for

751
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: the exact moment that that happens. And so that's what

752
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: really helped me have success is because I was long

753
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: arm too, So the second I knew his long arms

754
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: were coming.

755
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: Shoote, I would shoot mine.

756
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: So I would always wait until the very last second,

757
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: and as soon as I knew that it was coming,

758
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: I would reach out and grab him as well.

759
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: Hmm, things that you never knew. Who Oh, he was

760
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: definitely built on pace and I was like it was.

761
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: Like rusher and then he that some sugs jumped to

762
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 4: count some. But he used to be a big pace

763
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 4: guy too. He loved because he loves us in and out,

764
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: so he would like to kind of let you set

765
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, James Harrison the same way.

766
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: He loved to get in and out in that rip.

767
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: You know, he wanted to get into you like a boxer,

768
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: like Mike Tyson. He wanted to get in tight.

769
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: It was Mike Tyson's side short short, that was his Artok,

770
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: hook your outside arm, man, pull himself around.

771
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: He gonna get I used to love him watching young

772
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: players because you never felt anything like that in your life.

773
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: Got so powerful and he would just stick your arm

774
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: out and he'd just grab it and hook himself onto

775
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: it and pull himself around like he's slinging himself around

776
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: on a tree. And like literally you're like, wait, well, oh,

777
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: I just threw him into the quarterback.

778
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: What happened?

779
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: But you're like, I thought I punched him, but you didn't.

780
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: He was just waiting for that, so he grab it

781
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: and pull himself.

782
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Man.

783
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: I watched him play Young Players, I'm like, oh, this

784
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: dude's in trouble. He's gonna set inside half on this

785
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: guy and it's over. So with James, you had to

786
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: cover his whole body up because he didn't have an

787
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: inside move, So you had to cover him all the

788
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: way up and take him on to where he couldn't

789
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: grab your arm and get himself around, and then he

790
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: would have to move himself and move with him.

791
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: Hmm.

792
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: You know you know, I know.

793
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: All this stuff. That's why my plan was always to

794
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: have multiple moves.

795
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: That's it I need. I got to I'm a thief.

796
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm a thief. What worked, I'm gonna take that. What

797
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: didn't work, I still I still think I can make

798
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: it work. I'm adding everything to the books. And I

799
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: tell my young guys, I was like, learn from me,

800
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: because I almost if I like something from you, I'm

801
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: gonna steal it.

802
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

803
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: Another congratulations for being inducted to Louisiana Sports Hall of Fames,

804
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: you know, enshrinement that way this year.

805
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this summer, this summer.

806
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, pretty cool, you know, to grow up

807
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 4: in State Louisiana. I played at Western Road High School.

808
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: We went fifty eight and two in my four years there,

809
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: won three state championships and in the Superdome, and uh so,

810
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: I just at that place has always been so special

811
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: to me and in a place that all of my

812
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: athletic achievements have really like been some moments in there

813
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: at every level. And so it's like, you know, you

814
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: grow up in that state. That is the stadium of

815
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: the state. It's it's Death Valley and the Superdome, like

816
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: since I was a little kid. So to have those

817
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: things happen there and then to go win a national

818
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: championship at LSU there, you know, is obviously something that

819
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: made it even more special. So, you know, to me,

820
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: that building, that state and really the accomplishments I got

821
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: to have there will always be something that just sticks

822
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: in my mind, as you know, one of the coolest

823
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: experiences ever to be in your home state and to

824
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: win a bunch of championships there is really awesome.

825
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: Man, absolutely state championship, national championship, super Bowl champion who

826
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: a lot of winning, a whole lot of winning winners win.

827
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: Baby.

828
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: Is there anything specifically that you can remember from you know,

829
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: pinpoint in high school that sort of became the foundation

830
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: of what sort of shaped.

831
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: You as off as a lineman that you are. Have

832
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: you always been.

833
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: Six', Nine, well, NO i you, know PROBABLY i was

834
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: a basketball, player SO i grew up like THINKING i

835
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: was gonna be a basketball player in BASEBALL i was

836
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 4: my favorite two favorite. SPORTS i didn't play much football

837
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: until high. School AND i had a high school head,

838
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 4: Coach Don, shaws who basically was about five eight and

839
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: lived hanging from my face mask and so he Hated he,

840
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: literally LIKE i would have thought he hated. Me but

841
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: that was his way of, coaching was that he saw

842
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: a lot of talent in me and that was this

843
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: big basketball player who like he thought he could turn

844
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: into a football. Player, uh and he would destroy me every.

845
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: Day we'd have games where like we'd get into it

846
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: and you, know he kicked me off the, offense and

847
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: so the Defense cordner would be, like, oh, shoot if

848
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: he's not using, you then you're gonna play d in this.

849
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: Game so THEN i would play D n in the

850
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: second half or.

851
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: What do you mean he kick you?

852
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: Off he'd literally be Like i'm done dealing with you,

853
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: know we get in a huge fight and he'd be,

854
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: like you're not playing the rest of the. Game and

855
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: So jerry arltch our Defensive cordner would be, like are

856
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 4: you're playing defensive and the rest of the?

857
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: Games what do you what? Else what do you pety?

858
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: Off?

859
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: Of amember?

860
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: Bro he would kick you out all the, time and

861
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 4: so he we would get into, it so literally all

862
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: the time would get into, it and SO i would

863
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: NEVER i was never good at, it And i'm still.

864
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: Not i'm just listening. Coaching you can coach. Me you

865
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: can coach me as hard as you want till we

866
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: can correct. Anything BUT i tell young guys this all the,

867
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: time AND i still believe. It i'm a man from anything.

868
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: Else so when that tone gets past coaching and it

869
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: becomes like you're talking to, me, like, oh you're saying

870
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: man versus man right, now then let's go find. Out

871
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: LIKE i used to always, Say like we Had Mike

872
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: zimmer WHEN i was In cincinnati And zim loved And

873
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: i'd always walk By zim and be, like hey you,

874
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: baby GLAD i didn't play the. Defense he'd be, like

875
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: why do you say? THAT i, say you talk to

876
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: me like. That we'd be walking outside and find. Out he's,

877
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: like you tell Me i'm something Or i'm not.

878
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: This yeahlah blah.

879
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: Blah all, right, Listen i'm fine with that you say.

880
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: It let's go outside and find out IF i am though,

881
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: right since that's, IT.

882
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't do all.

883
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: That you can correct, me challenge me and come after

884
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: me all you. Want don't don't talk like the man

885
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: the man with me like you use Something i'm. Not

886
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: that ain't gonna fly with.

887
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: Me that only that only affected me AS i became

888
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: a man in high, school WHAT i tell, you, LIKE.

889
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: I don't THINK i knew that about, myself BUT i, realized, like, wow,

890
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: OKAY i. DON'T i don't handle that. Well and THEN

891
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: i got to college, though AND i played Under Nick.

892
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: SABAN i, Mean nick get after you every. Day but

893
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: WHAT i realized is he Loves See that's the thing

894
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: people say that About, nick Like nick's not something hard

895
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: coach to play. For he's a standard. Guy there is

896
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: a standard every day and if you appreciate the fact,

897
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: that no matter, what that standard exists and he is

898
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 4: gonna hold you to, it and he has never backing

899
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: down from that standard and no matter, who he didn't

900
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: care who it, is, coaches, administrators Like i've watched him

901
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: Destroy Skip bertman when he was THE ad and he

902
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: won eight national championships as a baseball coach and became

903
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 4: like THE ad, like you, know, man we're gonna let

904
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: him ride it out As i've seen him destroy, Him

905
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: Like nick would go after anybody if it didn't match

906
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: the standard or what he thought we were supposed to

907
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: be doing about. Something and SO i got along great

908
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 4: With nick because he'd be, like, MAN i love the fact,

909
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: that like you challenge Like i'm a standard, guy so

910
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 4: LIKE i would challenge you at every. Day, hey, COACH

911
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: i thought you said this was a, Standard Like i'll

912
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 4: challenge you, too, Right and so we got along. Great

913
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: BUT i didn't know that about myself TILL i got to.

914
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: College and then it's like strength, Coach tommy moffit's like

915
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: taking you out there one, tens like we're gonna run

916
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: them until you guys stop, whining or we're gonna do blahlah.

917
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: Blah AND i started to, realize LIKE i love, this

918
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: like the more you get after me and, say oh,

919
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: man we'll keep running or we'll do this Like i'm,

920
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: Smiling i'm not getting. Mad, Yeah i'm like all, right

921
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: try me like, That Like i'm built for. This i'm

922
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: built for. This so like that's WHEN i started to,

923
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: realize like that's where that came.

924
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: From, yeah THAT i let it roll off my. Back

925
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: and there ain't no they ain't no way you affected

926
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: me unless you affect my playing.

927
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: Time you're not bothering.

928
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: Me now you might bother, me.

929
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah but other than. That, man, anyways all, right let's.

930
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: Question you, know looking around At, TWITTER i saw that

931
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: you And fitz got into a little. Beef you know

932
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: a little about your stance on guys who die their.

933
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: Beards oh, yeah, yeah you. Know so fitz called me.

934
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 4: Out you, know we have our podcast. Together we have

935
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: a lot of. Fun but you, know he had one

936
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 4: of those situations where he knows he's known me. Forever

937
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 4: we played together in two thousand and, eight in two

938
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: thousand and seven And, cincinnati and so he's known me. Forever,

939
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: well he knew that earlier in my career WHEN i

940
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: first started going, GRAY i STARTED i was dying my,

941
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: beard and so he's had These, unfortunately fits is one

942
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: of those people as a, Teammate Ryan, fitzpatrick you, know

943
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: there's certain teammates you don't give. Information AND i had

944
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: sent him some funny pictures of my dyed, beards and

945
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 4: he decided that morning he woke up and shose violence

946
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: and decided to post a picture of. ME i was

947
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: actually going to The Kentucky. DERBY i, think, uh AND

948
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: i THAT i had sent him at some point in

949
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: our relationship of being. FRIENDS i almost ended our relationship

950
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: of being. Friends but that's what he.

951
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: Said he said it almost cost us.

952
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 4: Gosh he roasted. Me so that that led to some fun.

953
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: Conversations you, know fits is always good for.

954
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: That so your stance on dying, beard Now i've.

955
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: Changed NOW i don't. Know you, KNOW i don't do.

956
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: It SO i just just embraced the. White and this

957
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: is wisdom right.

958
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: Here you know.

959
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: Wisdom, well you can come to me for all the.

960
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 4: QUESTIONS i got all the. Wisdoms oh, Say i'm looking

961
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: at this. PICTURE i was, like how long have you?

962
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: Been? Bold?

963
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: Life lived a whole, life SO i so. Listen my high,

964
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: school we were, obviously LIKE i, said we were. Successful

965
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: our tradition was if you made the, playoffs you had

966
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: to buzz your, head like we're, right we'd make every buzzer.

967
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: Head the young guys had buzz their, head so we.

968
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: BUZZED i. Buzzed they buzzed my head as a, freshman

969
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 4: AND i was, like you know, WHAT i like myself

970
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: without hair more THAN i like it with.

971
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: It SO i.

972
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: DIDN'T i didn't like shave, it BUT i kept it

973
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: kind of like. Low and then WHEN i got to,

974
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: COLLEGE i had like a fade and LIKE i was

975
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: like lined, up AND i THOUGHT i was, cool and

976
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: THEN i would like shave it a little bit sometimes

977
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden my rookie year in the,

978
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: League i'm, Like i'm gonna grow my hair back.

979
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: Out AND i was, like my hair ain't growing. Back

980
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: what's going?

981
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: On got too used to?

982
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: It, no it might literally wouldn't come.

983
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: Back AND i was, like oh, No so there's actually

984
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: some Pictures i'm not giving you amo, Right, hey there's

985
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: actually some pictures like a young player me on the

986
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: sideline like WHERE i was trying to grow it, back

987
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: and it's, like oh, no like this dude has hair

988
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: here and there's none up. Top AND i was like

989
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: twenty four years, old so it's. CRAZY i already bought,

990
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: Inside oh. Buddy so THEN i just, said you know,

991
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: what we got to hit that. Razor so you letting

992
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: me have been friends for a long, time you, Know

993
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 4: i'd just let my head about two or three times

994
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 4: a week since.

995
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: Then been a long.

996
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: RIDE i don't know IF i have the head for.

997
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: That i've thought about shaving.

998
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: It, yeah you gotta have a GOOD i got a

999
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: good LIKE i was, LIKE i was, LIKE i don't.

1000
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: Have any like hooks for like den so like you, know,

1001
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: nothing like it's a nice in What i'm in my

1002
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: mind is.

1003
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: A nicely shaped, head but it takes a strong. Man

1004
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: what if it doesn't come. BACK i tried them like

1005
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: this ain't for, me and then.

1006
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: You know it doesn't and it is what you gotta worry.

1007
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: About Then i've got to fly To turkey And i'm

1008
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: okay with. IT i will pay for.

1009
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: It i'm.

1010
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: Fine, No, hey, listen the guys that have done, THAT

1011
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: i wouldn't do it at this point Because i've had

1012
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: a ball hit too. Long people would be, like, wait

1013
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: he definitely went and did. That but the guys that

1014
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: go do, IT i totally get.

1015
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: It i'm nervous about, it BUT i love my.

1016
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: HAIRLINE i have definitely sat around and thought about. IT

1017
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: i don't THINK i would do, it BUT i thought about.

1018
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: It ah, man maybe you, know maybe maybe when daughters get.

1019
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: Married just come in with a full. Head you might

1020
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 4: hit me and be, like, hey, dad you're gonna need

1021
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 4: to have some hair for my. Wedding but if she does,

1022
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: that that break my, heart AND i definitely would fly

1023
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: To turkey and do.

1024
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: It, said, baby girls know how to break. You, oh

1025
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: BUT i THOUGHT i THOUGHT i was stepping out outside one.

1026
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: TIME i was, like, Oh I'm i'm, lucky clean, baby,

1027
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: girl hit, me, daddy that shirt's, TIGHT i, said off season.

1028
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Camp and put on my three. Excerpt, Anyways, WELL i

1029
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: appreciate you tapping in with.

1030
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: The, podcast sports.

1031
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: FELLAS i appreciate you every. Time you, know just a consummate.

1032
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: Pro everything you've, done you, know your role model for

1033
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: a pretty much all football, players regardless of, position which is.

1034
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: Impressive then it's up to all your success you've had

1035
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: off the.

1036
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Field, again. Impressive just an impressive human.

1037
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: BEING i appreciate you are as, well my.

1038
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: Man you, know the MORE i learn about, you the

1039
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: More i'm, impressed which you, Know i'm probably easily, impressed

1040
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: BUT i still think you're the standout.

1041
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: Guy, yes, sir everybody.

1042
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: Who's been tuning in to to the, PODCAST i appreciate.

1043
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: You follow us wherever you get your, Podcast Apple, Podcasts iHeart,

1044
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: radio app or wherever.

1045
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Else just, know off The edge.

1046
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: Will be here And i'll be holding it down for

1047
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: the foreseeable, future all and off the.

1048
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 1: Field take it. Easy god bless, peace