WEBVTT - What's the Hottest Celebrity Tea? 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:06.240 Sauce on the side. 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:06.600 What's up? 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.239 It's Gandhi here with Diamond. And I say this all 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:10.880 the time because I'm always excited for the guests that 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.319 we have come in. We have a guy named Rob 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:15.760 Shooter coming in today. Rob Shooter you may have heard 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.040 on The Big Show, The Naughty Gossip. He used to 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:22.560 be in pr and he has all the tea on 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.639 all the people, and I know Diamond probably has a 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.400 million things that she wants to ask him. But he's 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.000 just a good time. He even just him telling a 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.840 regular story about his day walking here whatever. He's highly entertaining. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:36.560 So I'm very excited to have him in here today. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.040 I'm so excited. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.040 What are you chompa at the bit about here? 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.400 Well? I follow him on substack number one. I don't 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.920 understand the Megan Mark will hate. But I can't tell 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:51.280 if he like is telling a story from a friend perspective, 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.199 or if he's trying to shit on her. Okay, you 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.000 know so, But also I don't understand why people don't 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.880 like her like I, you know. And then also he 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:00.680 just knows so many people, well I want to know, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:02.800 you know, he does who he likes, who. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.520 He doesn't like, he's pretty open about that stuff too. Yes, 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.679 he tries lightly every now and then, but if you 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.240 really get him going, he's like, and by the way, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.480 so and so fucking sucks. I love it because I 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.120 want to hear those things, like when you hear it 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.600 from an everyday person that maybe ran into Jennifer Lopez 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.640 one time. And I have no doubt we're going to 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.560 talk about jay Lo a lot. You can't necessarily go 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.080 on their experience as to like who she is as 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.000 a person. You can go on their experience as far 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.920 as what she was to them at that moment. Sure, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.480 so if she was a bitch to them, I believe 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.640 that that doesn't make her a bitch overall. But Rob 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.120 worked for these people, with these people. He's attended award shows, Gallas, 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.440 like all the stuff with incredibly popular celebrities, so he 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.880 knows them, knows them, and I can't wait to get 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.200 some of this info. I hope that you are ready 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.080 to be a part of it for this. Yeah, let's 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.800 talk about that for the second. So some of our 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.560 most popular episodes are when it's just you, Me and 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.040 Andrew and Josh. If he wants to come in here, 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:02.800 we've talked about this a million times, but you don't 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:04.640 really like I mean, I guess you'll do that. You 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.240 do those episodes of me, and you don't care about 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.040 that so much, but you never want to be on 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.480 the air, on the show, on the big show. Why. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.000 I think that people don't realize that there's a lot 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.960 of pressure when it comes to the big show. Really yeah, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:19.920 I feel like there's a lot of pressure period with 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.840 certain things, like I'm nervous. I can talk to you. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.560 I can talk to you because I'm comfortable with you. Okay, 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.800 we chat whatever. Honestly, I don't remember half of the 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.680 things that I say. So when people are like, oh 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.640 I loved what you said or I love you on 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.799 Gandhi's podcast, I'm like, oh god, what did I say? 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:39.600 Like I don't remember. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.040 People say all the time, more diamond, we want more diamond. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.240 God, it makes me nervous. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.440 Things just come out of my mouth, right, And so like, 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.600 I think that when it comes to the big show, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.040 if I say something I probably shouldn't say, I feel 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.400 like I'm gonna get in trouble for it. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.000 I probably won't Who. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.080 Would get you? Who would come for you? 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:04.680 Ah? Actually, it's like our question, no our vet manager. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:09.160 No, I think people maybe the people. And it's easy 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.040 to say that you don't care about what people have 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.480 to say about you, but sometimes, like I think my 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.880 biggest thing is like saying something that I don't mean, 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.280 like unintentionally hurting people's feelings or something. 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:19.920 Well, yeah, true. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.519 We should get to this with Rob too. I think people, 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.520 I understand what you're saying. As someone who is shit 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.920 on often, I really don't care that much anymore. I mean, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.960 every now and then there might be like I might 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.640 be having a bad day and you're like, ah, shit, 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.240 that was mean. Why did you have to send me that? 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.160 But I don't seek it out. I read the comments 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.520 on my page, and I think I've done a pretty 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.680 good job so far, like filtering out all of the 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.640 people who I am not interested in hearing from anymore. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.640 But it is like, it is what it is. Right, 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.600 you have an opinion about something, You're never gonna make 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.360 anybody happy. You're never gonna make everybody happy. I should say, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.400 hopefully make somebody happy. But as long as you're happy, 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.960 you're not hurting anybody who cares. People misspeak all the time, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.360 people fuck things up all the time. Whatever, Hm, shit happens, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:07.000 but I understand stepping into the arena. I remember, it's 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.680 a little wild. Yeah, I mean even I will tell 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.720 you this, and I think I've said this before. So 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.680 I started as an intern when I was in radio. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.240 I was still in college, and then they hired me 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.040 full time. I was still in college. But I think 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.480 because I was so young the audience and because it 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.520 was a Midwest and they had started my journey with 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.880 me and followed along, they were super supportive and it 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.760 was like everything I did they clapped and they were nice, 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:31.480 and it was like, yay, oh my gosh, good job, 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.039 you're growing up. So when I moved to Boston, because 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.479 they recruited me hard to move to Boston, I just 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.720 expected that that's how everyone was gonna treat me. And 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:45.640 fun fact no, So that was actually my first venture 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.240 into like the rings of hell. It was so bad. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.040 They were like whole pages. I mean, I guess this 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.440 still exists, but there was like Facebook pages about how 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.920 I've ruined everything on my first day. What I hadn't 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.120 even had a chance to like talk and get things going. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.040 Give me a year and then tell me that I 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.920 ruined it all. Fine, but day one, no, it was 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.400 so mean, and then I was like, okay, well I'm prepared, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.440 Like now I know, I'm bracing myself. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:08.919 It's okay. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.120 And then I came here thinking it'll probably be like 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.960 the same in the beginning as Boston. But this show 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.400 is so much bigger and had such a big pull 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.880 and reach that I was not prepared for the tsunami 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.000 of mean shit that started coming my way and then 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.480 didn't stop. Well, I didn't change myself. I would drown 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.560 in that. So you just I don't care about it. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.640 I know it's easy to say, it's not necessarily easy 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.760 to do, but I think there are four more people 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.800 who are rooting for you and who love you, and 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.719 who are more diamonding it all the time. So I 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.840 think you undersell yourself. And I think you're really good 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:45.280 at what you do. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:46.560 Oh I think I would love. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.040 To have more of you here and on the show. Well, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.039 thank you that you're not going to do it. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.159 Maybe this is the year. What yeah, I. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.000 Maybe let's make it happen. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.520 Let's get it popping. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:05:59.960 You know, Elvis loves talking to you. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.279 Scares me though, Why he's just a different type of person. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.400 What are you scared of? Elvis, it's not the way. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.440 At some point, guarantee he pops in here. Because he's 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.360 here today, wandering around somewhere. He's gonna come in. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.359 Yeah, keep me on my toes. Why don't you. I 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.320 don't know. I just I'm like, oh god, what, I 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:20.760 don't know. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.880 It's something about him that I'm just it makes me 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.480 uneasy when Mike's are around. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.200 If we're just chilling, fine, I'll say whatever. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.000 But like, oh see, I would say, of all the 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.599 dudes that I've worked with, he's the easiest one to 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.960 play back and forth with. Oh god, the easiest. I mean, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.240 like he just he rolls with it. He's really witty 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:42.040 and funny. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.040 He is and there. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.120 I mean, I think that there have been a lot 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.520 of instances that I've been in where a lot of 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.479 it happens here all the time. I'll say something that 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.719 I think is hilarious and there's like no reaction whatsoever. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.200 He reacts most of the time, even if it's silent 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.599 and he's like flipping me the bird. He does. He's 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.880 paying attention to like what's going on. So he is 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.680 pretty easy to interact with. You just gotta interact, Oh okay, Yeah, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.320 So One of the things about radio is open ended 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.760 answers or long answers. I should say open ended questions. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.640 So like, if I ask you a question, the response 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.320 should never be yes or no. Fine, it should be 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:22.520 a yes and or a no because we're learning. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.720 Okay, yes, we're gonna do it is I don't know. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.400 I mean that's better. You know what you said. This 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:30.600 is gonna be the year. We have a whole year 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.760 to work on it. Okay, But until then, I say, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:39.680 we welcome Rob Shooter. So I am here with Rob Shooter, 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.240 who is one of our favorite guests that we have 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.560 on The Big Show all the time, the Naughty Gossip. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:45.720 Should we play his theme song. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:52.760 Advice or Shooter? See Rob? 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.720 Okay? So, Rob, every time you come in and you 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.080 talk to us for maybe twenty minutes, I have a 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.920 billion more questions about what is going on in the 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.160 world of celebrity and specifically with like you as a 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.960 human being, how your life as a publicist for celebrities started, 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.600 some of the juiciest things that you've seen and done, 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.080 and just in general, like what is your life like? 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.160 That's why you have this podcast? See because the what 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.680 do you call it? The Big Show? I like that. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.640 So the Big Show, it's brilliant, But that Big Show 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.040 is a machine and it has to move at a 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.160 certain pace and there's technical stuff that I didn't realize 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.040 until I got my own TV show. You have to 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.120 throw the commercial break, you have to pay the bills, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.280 and so that Big Show, even though it sounds like 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.120 it is all spur of the moment, a lot of 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.360 it is sort of mapped out. That's the genius I 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.840 think of Elvis and the team is that you have 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.640 to sort of like put this jigsaw puzzle together or 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.719 playe together the while you're flying it, and you can 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.800 do both at once. But that's what I love now 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.400 about your podcasts and people's podcasts. You can take those 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.120 little nuggets, which are delicious. I'm not criticizing the Big Show. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.360 I'm a huge fan of it. I've been doing it 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.560 for decades. But you can take those little pieces of 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.440 conversation and you can expand them, and that's what you 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.520 do better than anybody else. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.720 I love you, and I want to expand on so much. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.880 I know Diamond has some questions because she subscribes to 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.680 your substack, which, by the way, if people want to 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.240 do that, Rob how can they do that? 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.560 Yes, so sub sex this amazing platform that I didn't 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.280 really know much about it. So people are no longer 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.079 going to websites. Nobody goes to people dot com or 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.480 a stock that. People are not going to websites anymore. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.680 What's happening is and I love this. We have to 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.600 come to you. Yeah, so my website Lazier every day 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.400 exactly knocking on your door. I think it's six months 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.719 for people now want information in newsletters, and you've got 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.120 to change with the times. Ten years ago I was 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.640 waking up every morning and watching the Today Show. I 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.280 love it. My habits have changed now, and so I 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.440 think we get our news in a different way. And 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.160 the smartest business people I know have changed with the times. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.400 And I think part of my success in this business 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.520 is I've constantly reinvented myself. Not necessarily the content of 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.960 the work. It's always been, you see, naughty but nice gossip, 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.079 but the way I deliver it is something that I 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.040 think about a lot. So about a year ago, a 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.160 friend of mine is telling me about substack and this 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.600 is the new thing, and I played with a little bit. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.160 And whenever you start something, you're not going to be 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:14.960 good at it. So that's why a lot of people 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.080 don't start, because they're frightened of being criticized. I don't care. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.240 So I started it and I was awful, but after 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.120 about six months I got really good at it. And 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.120 now my substack is on fire. And so each day, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.840 if you sign up for it, get a substack Rob 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.280 Shooter and type in my name and you just put 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.120 in your email address, and then throughout the day, every 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.920 time a really big story breaks, two three times a day, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.040 you get a really short email. And at first I 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.560 was like, gosh, am I overloading people? And the answer 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.880 is yes, I was. It was Elvis who said, you 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.120 are blowing up my own box. He said four a 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.080 day unless like something tragic happens, and he gave me 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.600 a very tragic story that I won't repeat. So four 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.760 times a day, I picked the biggest story, four times 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.240 a day, and I give you some insight, I give 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.760 you some exclusive information, and people are eating it up. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.200 I feel like I always felt a little bit in 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.920 the shadow of pres Hilton. He got there first. He 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.120 really owned the blog, he owned that world. I thought, 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.839 I know, I'm a bete, which I wouldn't do. I 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.600 knew as a better columnist. I knew I was a better, 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.920 better writer. I knew I had better sources, but he 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.840 got there first, and I tipped my hat to him. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.520 I have so much respect that he did it. But 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.400 I was always a little bit in his shadow. He 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.400 was my Britney and I was Jessica Simpson like I 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:35.640 just I wasn't quite the star Stack. For the first 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:40.320 time ever, I feel like the star. I'm really killing it. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.000 So if you if you want gossip, if you love 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.480 a celebrity gossip, and you don't want to get to 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:48.360 websites anymore, then then sign up and you literally get 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.839 a substack and then it will say sign up, and 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.920 you type in rob Shooter and it brings you to 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.679 my page. And then you put your email address in 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.680 said s h u t e R rob R A 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.040 B s h u t e R. If you want 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.240 a short go or a B s h u t 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.400 e R dot substack dot com. All right, I'll take 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.680 it right there. Put your email addressing and it's really 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.320 simple too. I think this is a real lovely thing 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.679 about substack. You know, sometimes when you sign up for something, 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:17.719 you can't subscribe unless you go down a rabbit hole 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.360 up and lad down. It gives you ten steps and 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.520 then I'll still get your emails this If you get 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.040 bored of me, and you won't, you just hit one 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.640 little unsubscribe and I'm gone. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.520 Are you selling our information to a third part? 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.280 I'm not. Yeah, no, not yet. But it is lovely 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.560 to see you build something. You're doing it with this podcast. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.680 We've been both of us. We've been parts of massive organizations, 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.760 so big brands, which I'm so lucky at as being 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.440 part of it, and they're great. But it's also lovely 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.800 to have your own little piece of the pie. It is. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.400 It's nice to do something creatively that is just you 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.560 and it's just what you want to do. Nobody's forcing you, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.920 nobody's telling you what you can and can't say. You're 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.839 not really taking off clients. We don't have any. It's great. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.960 How long before this show hit its strung? 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:01.480 This podcast? 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.080 Yeah? When we like this is the show, you know, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:04.520 I don't know. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.439 That it has yet rights, we're working on it. We 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.280 So what's really interesting is I love having guests on 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.400 because I say this all the time. There are things 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:13.920 I want to do with this podcast. I want people 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.360 to learn something and get information from this right in 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.240 some capacity. And that's why I like having guests, because 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:21.800 I feel like we can learn something from every guest 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.079 who comes in. You can learn something from everybody every day. 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.480 But our most popular episodes, once people love the most, 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.480 are when it's just Diamond and Me shooting the ship 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.640 talking about nothing with Diamonds terrible. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:37.360 I get the same on my show. On my podcast 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.439 Naughty but Nice, I used to have a celebrity guest 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.280 maybe two or three times a week, normally a housewife, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.120 someone related always to a Kardashian, somebody that was involved 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.560 in the world of royals. And what I figured out 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.120 very quickly is they necessary didn't necessarily want want guests. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:59.839 They wanted me. Your listeners want you. Well, that's it's 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:00.720 so flattering. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.320 It is very flattering, it's super nice, and it's just 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.600 a fun thing to do. It's a creative outlet. I 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.959 was a producer my whole life until I came here, 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:10.920 and now I've been here for long enough that maybe 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.000 I should have shaken it a little bit. But it's 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.320 really tough for me to just sit in the seat 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.440 and only talk and not do all the other things around. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.680 Don't shake it. Honestly, if you've got a skill out there, 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.600 whatever you're doing right now, you did something before this, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.200 and if you enjoyed it, you can bring it all together. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.160 For a long time, when I was a publicist, I 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.560 didn't really like being a publicist. I didn't really want 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.640 to do that job. I wanted to say something myself. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.520 It was very difficult to walk red carpets and not speak. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.120 I wanted to be talking and that didn't necessarily want 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.440 to be famous. But I had a voice, and so 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.600 that's why I made a pivot. However, all the skills 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.800 I learned as a publicist I now use and that 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.680 has really helped. So don't ever think like because you 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.280 were something, it doesn't it doesn't affect you anymore. It 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:54.600 actually makes you who you are. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.200 Right, That's my foundation. And I actually think and Diamond 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.040 could probably attest to this in one way or another. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.520 I think it drives people around here nuts because everybody 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.640 has this one position that they do, this one thing 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.800 that they do all the time. But from where I came, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.640 I did all of those jobs. So it kind of 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.440 turns into a situation every now and then where I'm like, 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.040 don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.200 I know how this works, I'll do it myself. And 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:17.800 then you know that's not really how. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.120 People want to I started as a receptionist in my 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.440 first job in America. I answered the telephones at this 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.200 big PR company BNC, Bragman I mcafarelli. One of the 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.560 biggest would be Goldberg, Cameron, dis Kate Hudson. They had 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.960 superstar clients and big corporate clients too. And it's back 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.040 in the day when we didn't have cell phones, and 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:35.840 so you had to phone the main number to get 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.520 your publicist. And so every celebrity, every client would come 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.640 through my switchboard, would come through the reception And I 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.560 learned everything doing that job. And if somebody had said 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.880 to me, like Rob on your resume, it's a good 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.640 resume now, and there's some pretty impressive stuff on there, 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.400 the one where I learned everything was the reception desk. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.520 I'm so glad that I wasn't one of those privileged 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.360 kids that got to miss that beat of life, because 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.520 some people go into companies and your dad's famous at 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.200 your mum's reach and you go straight into hot I 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.280 started at the bottom of the ladder and I'm really 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.880 grateful about that, because saying the skills you learn, you 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.680 don't get so much. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.840 You learn about people, You learn how to interact with people. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.440 You see the ship that rolls downhill, And how when 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.120 somebody at the top just you know, is feeling whimsical 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.880 one day and they just don't want to do the 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:21.880 thing that they said they were going to do, how 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.080 that impacts every other person down the road. So like, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.640 I try really hard not to do that. Even though 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:32.280 I did cancel a guest recently because everyone was saying 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.400 how much I was going to love this woman and 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:35.960 it was going to be wonderful and I need to 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.160 watch this show. And then I watched the show and 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.880 I was appalled, and I was like, I don't I 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:42.960 don't even want. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.120 That, But is that lovely on this show? You to 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.440 get to make that decision on the big show. If 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.920 a whole celebrity turns up, we were not going to 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.240 name them. We're not going to get in trouble here 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.120 at iHeart, but we all know who you are. You've 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.480 still got to do it here. You don't have to. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:57.120 It's your shirt. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.560 You're right, And by the way, you're not gonna get 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.400 in trouble for any things you say on this part, 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.240 you are safe. We call this the immunity room. Oh, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:06.960 because at some point I'm gonna want you to name names. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.240 I'm pretty I'm pretty open. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.000 Okay, So first up, Diamond has a question about what 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.960 she's constantly seeing in your sub stack. Someone to let 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:16.439 her ask it. 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.600 Go Diamond, Hello, what is the. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.040 Real issue with Megan Mark? 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:24.480 Why? 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.639 And I want to say, does she deserve it? But 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.960 according to your substack, sometimes you make me feel like 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.680 she does. I don't know what I'm. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.399 Missing Meghan, Like everybody is really complicated. And when you 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.040 tell a story about a friend or a celebrity, it's 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.040 easy to do black or white. It's easy to do 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.359 one or a hundred. That's not true of anybody. We 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.040 all have our good days, we all have ha bad days. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:49.520 Meghan has this ability to just make terrible decisions, business decisions. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.119 I think she's made a really good romantic decision and 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.200 she's got the life partner that she loves. But if 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.400