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Speaker 1: Just search two pros FSR and subscribe. Oh yeah, good morning, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go hell you Hey, Brady, the high speed chases

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Speaker 1: happen out in Ohio?

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Speaker 2: Is that just a yeah, we just don't stop everything

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Speaker 2: that really gets started. You know, it's not like quite

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Speaker 2: And this is spend a couple of years. Now you

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Speaker 3: So I do wonder if you look at, for example.

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Speaker 2: we'll see what Shador does this week. Hopefully he's got

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Speaker 4: just wonder. I just wonder quarterback. That's like, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: get it. What but like you said, it's the Browns, man,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's it is the Browns. They're not very

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Speaker 4: They're not very good. Hey man, they're not very good

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Speaker 5: I believe. Let me go back to my notes.

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Speaker 4: I believe rushing offense they are at when.

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Speaker 5: They're ranked thirty first door sh door. I got it

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Speaker 5: Yeah I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go to Fox sports dot com.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, last time I did, it was like a cumbersome experience,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: All we have is uh hell hell yeah mya Ohio.

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Speaker 3: You know you getting that cover last night? Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 5: They probably have a better passing offense than since that

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Speaker 2: But guess who Guess who didn't for Buffalo And this

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Speaker 2: will be a blast from the past for you, LeVar.

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Speaker 3: Remember the old name Taekwon Robertson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah I do know that name.

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Speaker 2: Hmm yeah, former Penn stator, former former quarterback that LeVar

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Speaker 5: That was the last week I was.

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Speaker 3: I was like holding LeVar.

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Speaker 2: I was giving him hugs, like trying to like pick it,

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Speaker 2: the That was a rough offensive performance that that second half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were going to win that game.

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 5: I felt I felt like that he couldn't even take

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lorena, get on it. Play perfect. Turning my nose first.

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Speaker 5: Oh see, I mean, yeah, they're playing the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: If you don't think they're not going to be out

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Speaker 2: Look at this team, you know, this is a team

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Speaker 3: You know your boy. Evocati has been coming on.

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Speaker 1: There was a report that came out a few days

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Speaker 1: that multiple offensive players have grown frustrated with Jalen Hurts's

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Speaker 1: approach this season, particularly against zone coverage. They believe he's

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Speaker 1: become hesitant in tight windows, leaning on checkdowns or scrambles

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Speaker 1: say that players are frustrated because he stands back there,

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Speaker 1: does Jalen Hurts and sort of pats the ball and

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Speaker 1: there's opportunities and he doesn't want to pull the trigger

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Speaker 11: Like this, out of the responsibility when things are going

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Speaker 11: I guess I get a lot of attention when things

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Speaker 11: are going well and when things are not going so well,

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Speaker 11: and so I never run away from holding myself accountable.

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Speaker 11: And I think, I think that's exactly what I've I've

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Speaker 11: taken the approach of doing. You know, even when I

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Speaker 11: look at this last game and I take I take

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Speaker 11: a great pride in what we do on the offense.

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Speaker 5: I take great pride and how we go.

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Speaker 11: Out there and play as a team and and and

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Speaker 11: what our flow is. And so we obviously got work

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Speaker 11: to do. And I think that starts that, That obviously

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Speaker 11: starts with me. That's always my approach. That's always me

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Speaker 11: looking internally first in everything that we do, and then

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Speaker 11: in due time rising above.

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Speaker 10: So thanks having been brought to you directly.

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Speaker 11: I don't want to get into that. I know it

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Speaker 11: hasn't though, how about how about you personally, y'all bring

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Speaker 11: it to me. I mean, you know, I think it's

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Speaker 11: a bit of a different thing. You know, I don't

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Speaker 11: want to get into the weeds of any thing. Ultimately,

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Speaker 11: it was with the nature of it. You know, everybody's

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Speaker 11: going to have an opinion, and I give a lot

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Speaker 11: of respect to those things. Ultimately, you know, we're all

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Speaker 11: here to do the same thing, and so it's about

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Speaker 11: the pursuit of that, you know, And I've always encouraged

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Speaker 11: trying to work together to achieve that thing. For us,

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Speaker 11: we just got to be committed to the same thing.

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Speaker 11: Everybody's got to be on the same page, and we

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Speaker 11: have to you know, set a definite vision of what

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Speaker 11: things need to be what they are, and then we

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Speaker 11: pursue that and then we grow and expound on that

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Speaker 11: week after week.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 11: It's it's been a it's been fluctuating in our approach

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Speaker 11: a bit where we found ways to win.

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Speaker 5: And in hindsight, that's why you play the game. But

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Speaker 5: you have to play with a bit of a presence.

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Speaker 5: It's identity.

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Speaker 1: There was Jalen Hurts responding to the report of teammates

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Speaker 1: being frustrated with them. Can I can I throw something

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Speaker 1: out here just the theory.

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Speaker 3: Oh I might want to co sign this. We'll see, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that players are as frustrated with the

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Speaker 1: winning and his safe approach to the quarterback position. I

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Speaker 1: just think maybe they don't like him that maybe it's

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Speaker 1: more of that because you are winning games. There's reports

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Speaker 1: and him kind of saying, nobody's come to me. I

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Speaker 1: have to hear this from you guys there. It feels

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Speaker 1: like there's more of a personal thing than there is

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Speaker 1: a performance thing agains because they're winning games and they've

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Speaker 1: just won a super Bowl and it's not like he

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Speaker 1: hasn't played well and they're the one seed and it's

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Speaker 1: like all of these things that are happening. Look, Bo

563
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Speaker 1: Nixon struggled. You see players coming out and defending him

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Speaker 1: publicly like he's string. The offense has looked abysmal at times,

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Speaker 1: but you see guys come out and defend him publicly.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts just won a Super Bowl and you've got

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Speaker 1: people going to reporters in the in the affilly that

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Speaker 1: cover the team airing him out. They just don't like him.

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Speaker 4: You forgot to add Super Bowl MVP as well, exactly

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Speaker 4: and actually outplayed Patrick Mahomes in the first Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: that they lost.

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Speaker 1: This feels like a personal thing to me. That's my

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Speaker 1: two cents.

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Speaker 2: I might co sign with that only because when I

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Speaker 2: watch it, like, are there times where there are windows

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Speaker 2: or there times where something might be there? Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of coming through last week's game right now,

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Speaker 2: But honestly, you know, guys around then't need to do

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Speaker 2: a better job too. There's times you see drops, there's

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Speaker 2: times you see guys not getting open.

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Speaker 3: And I also think everyone's.

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Speaker 2: Got an opinion about you know what it what it's

583
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Speaker 2: like to play quarterback. You know what the quarterback's not

584
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Speaker 2: doing right, not doing well. It's why we have all

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Speaker 2: these air armshair quarterbacks. The reality isn't unless you've played

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Speaker 2: in that position and you've see from that perspective, it

587
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Speaker 2: becomes really, really hard.

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Speaker 3: To ultimately know what is going on.

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Speaker 2: And I always say that because it is such a

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Speaker 2: unique position, not only from the vantage point of leadership,

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Speaker 2: but from the vantage point of just how you even

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Speaker 2: see the game from the pocket. And it's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons why I've always felt like, if you have

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Speaker 2: a quarterback coach that didn't play quarterback, You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a hard time relating to the actual quarterback because there's

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Speaker 2: things that like, unless you're just a really good teacher

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Speaker 2: and you could be that understanding, you're not gonna understand

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Speaker 2: the things he's gonna say to you.

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Speaker 3: So, I you know, could there be some issues with

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Speaker 3: just how people feel about him as a guy. Maybe.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, not in that locker room. I won't

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Speaker 3: say this to all your point.

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Speaker 2: Like, this is a team that's a winning football team.

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Speaker 2: There might be the very old top overall seed when

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Speaker 2: it's all said and done the NFC. They just won

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Speaker 2: a super Bowl last year. They're also talking about the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl VP. This is a city that likes to

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Speaker 2: make stuff up. I'm just I'm just saying like that,

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Speaker 2: this city likes made up drama. Rocky Rocky is one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest films ever. It's completely fictional, all right,

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Speaker 2: there's the stairs, the statue of the whole thing. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying like that, like this, the whole city likes

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Speaker 2: to make stuff up. So I'm not surprised that there's

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Speaker 2: some sort of drama with a team that's arguably the

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Speaker 2: best in the NFC trying to win back to back

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls, and they're making a lot out of a

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Speaker 2: little because that's part of their identity.

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Speaker 3: If you look at, for example, Rocky and people running

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Speaker 3: the stairs, but this is what Rocky did. No, it's

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Speaker 3: not he wasn't a real guy. He's that real. You're

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Speaker 3: just doing what the movie did you know?

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Speaker 1: It's got a statue up there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people outside of Philly like that

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Speaker 5: fictitious guy.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 5: I love it. I listened.

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Speaker 2: I listened to the soundtrack all the time when I

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Speaker 2: work out, I do I swear to Yeah, it's one

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Speaker 2: of the best soundtracks to work out too, even just

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Speaker 2: the instrumental stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's like maybe one day a week, but

632
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Speaker 3: still once a week.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like again, it didn't happen in Cleveland,

635
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Speaker 2: it happened in la.

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Speaker 3: It happened in Philly. He like drama, like makes that

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Speaker 3: stuff up.

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Speaker 5: It is interesting. He has a statue.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you listen to Jalen Hurts, he gives you.

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Speaker 4: He gives you Kobe Bryant type vibes. Yeah, you know

641
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Speaker 4: in the way that he speaks, and I would say,

642
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Speaker 4: the challenge you have when you have the type of

643
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Speaker 4: demeanor that Jalen Hurts has is that you're going to

644
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Speaker 4: you're going to create a standard by the things that

645
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Speaker 4: you say, because, quite frank it's very impressive the way

646
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Speaker 4: he speaks on matters, almost like a wise uncle or

647
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Speaker 4: a wise dad, or just just a person that has

648
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Speaker 4: has strong wisdom and they exercise, you know, a level

649
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Speaker 4: of restraint where you know, you generally aren't going to

650
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Speaker 4: hear a guy like Jalen Hurts say anything that he

651
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: has to pull back. You know, he's not going to

652
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Speaker 4: put himself in a position where he has to come

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Speaker 4: out and apologize because he's so well thought out in

654
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Speaker 4: the things that he says, and he actually executes the

655
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Speaker 4: things that he say he says pretty pretty well. So

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Speaker 4: I think that creates that creates something. A level of

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Speaker 4: success that Jalen Hurts has grown to could also generate

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Speaker 4: locker room jealousy.

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Speaker 5: Those are all things that are possible.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there's certain guys that feel a certain type of

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Speaker 4: They're not getting their shot, you know, maybe so much

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Speaker 4: towards the fortune of it all and it's based upon

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Speaker 4: how Jalen Hurts plays, and he has not played at

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Speaker 4: an elite quarterback level this season and at times during

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Speaker 4: his career it has come under scrutiny that he doesn't

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Speaker 4: always play at the highest level as a quarterback as

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Speaker 4: a franchise guy. But just like when Chris uh, what's

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Speaker 4: what's the defensive tackle for the Kansas City Chief Chris

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Speaker 4: Jonson right Zones.

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Speaker 5: Chris Jones called him out for it during the game.

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Speaker 4: He's standing there talking Transjo him about how poor his

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Speaker 4: performance was during the game, and Jalen Hurts basically politely

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Speaker 4: told him to shut that up. We won the game, right,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's his mentality. And everybody isn't going

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Speaker 4: to match a higher level of thought in that locker room.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to call anybody a neanderthal, but

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Speaker 4: some of these guys are neanderthal. Like some of these

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Speaker 4: guys aren't exercising their minds on the type of level

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Speaker 4: that a Jaalent Hurts is. And when you have somebody

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Speaker 4: like that, and sometimes you might expect him to be

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Speaker 4: on the same page with you, but he isn't, and

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Speaker 4: for obvious reasons, because his idea of it is very

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Speaker 4: different most likely than those guys that expect him to

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Speaker 4: be like how they are, or handle things the way

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Speaker 4: that he handles them, or have a level of relatability

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 5: And he holds himself to a different state.

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Speaker 4: And so I know that doesn't justify poor play, but

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Speaker 4: it also but I do believe it justifies the thought

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Speaker 4: process of trying to understand some of the things that

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Speaker 4: you may see and witness and experience watching Jays play.

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Speaker 3: Let me push back on the poor play aspect.

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Speaker 5: Okay, go it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's poor play.

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Speaker 2: Like if you look at his numbers, he's not the

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Speaker 2: most prolific, but he does not turn the football, oh

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Speaker 2: throw one pick.

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Speaker 3: Heay's sixteen touchdowns to one pick. Go back to last

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Speaker 3: year's eighteen to five.

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Speaker 2: What's his yard throughout his entire career, Like maybe his

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Speaker 2: best statistical season it was twenty two to six.

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Speaker 4: But some people may argue the fact that him not

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Speaker 4: throwing those those interceptions, or that interception figure being so

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Speaker 4: low is based upon the fact that he won't let

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Speaker 4: it go, he won't take it and won't try to put.

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Speaker 2: It in the exactly, so there's that thought to it.

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Speaker 2: But I would still say this, he plays a winning

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Speaker 2: brand of football. And that season you're talking about, they

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Speaker 2: went fourteen and one in the games he started back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. So if people are saying that,

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Speaker 2: they're probably missing the greater point that, yeah, maybe he's

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Speaker 2: he's a bit more conservative.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of been his place.

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Speaker 2: But if you combine like his rushing yards as well

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Speaker 2: as his passing yards and you really like break that

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Speaker 2: down statistically speaking, he's as impactful as anyone.

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Speaker 3: So I understand the frustration they can have.

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Speaker 2: This is also a team that I'll continue to add

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Speaker 2: in his defense, they've gone through so many coordinators, Like

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Speaker 2: he's started now what six years, is that about, right?

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Speaker 3: Or he's been there six years he started about five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they've had Kellen Moore, they've had

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Speaker 2: Shane Steich, and they've got Kevin Patulo this year, they've

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Speaker 2: got the quarter or the OC they just fired a

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Speaker 2: year before that before the Super Bowler. So what twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, which was arguably his worst year, not arguably

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Speaker 2: it was his worst year. He threw for the most

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Speaker 2: yards he's ever thrown for, but threw twice three times

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Speaker 2: as many picks. I mean, you start breaking it down

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Speaker 2: and it's like, well, all right, Like every single year

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Speaker 2: almost it feels like their offense has been a different

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Speaker 2: version of itself.

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Speaker 3: And it's hard as a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: To be able to consistently play at a high level

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Speaker 2: when you don't have the same guys there, like you know,

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Speaker 2: you look at Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes from the beginning

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Speaker 2: of his time with the Kansasy Chiefs to now is

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Speaker 2: a completely different quarterback.

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Speaker 3: The way he plays. They're not throwing the big chunks

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Speaker 3: down the field.

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Speaker 2: He's not taking all these chances to make these wild

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Speaker 2: plays and throws outside the pocket. Doesn't happen every once

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Speaker 2: in a while, sure, but no one's letting them do

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Speaker 2: that anymore. And they've had a different coordinators too, some

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Speaker 2: that have come back. Matt Neggey obviously has come back

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Speaker 2: to that team, but it looks entirely different watching that

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Speaker 2: team play.

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Speaker 5: For what it was. What it is, I'll just say

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Speaker 5: super quickly.

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Speaker 4: And the defense is playing very well, and why would

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Speaker 4: you take chances on making mistakes that your defense will

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Speaker 4: most likely give you more chances to try to put

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Speaker 4: points on the board. Nobody's talking crazy about Saquon. Saquon's

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Speaker 4: not He's what half the production to what he was

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Speaker 4: at last year. Nobody's talking crazy about Saquon. So to me,

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Speaker 4: when you look at it, it's a defensive lad team

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Speaker 4: bottom line. And whether people want to like that or

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Speaker 4: accept it or like it, you know, Jalen Hurts accepts

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Speaker 4: it and Jalen Hurts embraces it, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: why he handles things the way that he does. Don't

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Speaker 4: be a liability, be an asset to your team.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man baseball is making a run. They're making

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Speaker 1: a run for the NBA. Telling you just in time

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Speaker 2: That doesn't help people who have like tickets right and

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Speaker 2: sell them and stuff like that throughout the course not.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't know, but I would assume you

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Speaker 3: No, maybe you know someone or something.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there on those stub

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Speaker 1: hub streets, you know, not sure how that works, but

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Speaker 1: you know, nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not giving Jonas a big, a large, super large

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Speaker 4: network of people to call on.

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Speaker 5: Stuff like that. Just taking a stab at it.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean nothing blood white spedding me blood.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying because vampires, they live a very solitary life.

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Speaker 5: More often than that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Twilight gave a painted a different picture,

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Speaker 4: like living like a family and stuff like that, like

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