1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Tiffany Oshinski and I'm Kat Beoll, and this 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: is serving pancakes with League one Volleyball. The inaugural Love 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: season is finally here. Each episode will be going over 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: the matches from the week to keep you up to 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: date on. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Everything League one Volleyball. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Then stick around after the analysis for interviews with some 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: amazing people in and around the sport. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: Today's episode features three. 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Time Emmy Award winning broadcaster and one of the voices 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: of League one Volleyball in ESPN and Marie Anderson. 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: But first, let's talk week seven. I'm sure you're feeling 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: good about this week, cant I'm. 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: Feeling so good, excited about sarking pics today. Let's jump 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: right in. I'm so excited. 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see this. 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Let's start with your Wednesday night game or your team 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Love Austin took down the Love Classic champs from the 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: previous week, Love Houston twenty five, twenty nineteen, twenty five, 20 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: twenty five, eighteen, twenty six, twenty four. Now, the biggest 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: news for you, ladies, besides the win, is that. 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: You have an new coach. You have Chris McGown. 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: He took over as interim head coach after your previous 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: head coach, Marco Benita left for personal reasons. 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: So what did Chris bring as. 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: A coach to this game to help you beat the 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: second best team in the league. 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: Honestly, Chris came in just making things more simple, you know, 29 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: not too much of telling us what to do as 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: far as like you know, game preparation and scattering reports, 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: just keeping it simple, allowing us to be us and 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: being pro athletes and doing what we do now. 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: He said that he met you guys just an hour 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: before the match, which is crazy. Yeah, talk about that 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: meet and greet and what he did before the match. 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: Well, coming in, you know, his bright eyes, great smile, 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: very very good sense of good energy, comes in and 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: just like hey, you know, I'm coming in just to 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: help you guys out and we have a quick two months, 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: a quick turn around in two months coming up for 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: the team and just you know, guys, go out there 42 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: and do you got to do and we'll as we 43 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: get back into practice and get star connections and we'll 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: see what we can do and go from here. So 45 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: it was it was really cool. He was great. He 46 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: was great. 47 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Well it worked out because you guys ended up winning 48 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: the match, like we said at the top, but I 49 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about Maddie Skinner real quick because she 50 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: was named player of the match. She finished with a 51 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: season high twenty three kills in thirteen digs, along with 52 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: an ace two blocks in an assist. 53 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: Pick swing by Spinner Gosh making stuff up. Maddie's a 54 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: recent Texas grad. 55 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: You know, she's young, but she's really shown that she 56 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: can handle the pros very well. 57 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: So as her teammate. 58 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: What have you seen from her and her work ethic 59 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: that makes her such a force. 60 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: Honestly, I really enjoyed to get to know Mattie on 61 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: a personal level. Madison, she she wants to be called Madison, 62 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: you know. I love that she's being able to cultivate 63 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: her image as herself outside of the court, you know, 64 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: and her coming in and just diving, riding with the 65 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: group and having a great dynamic and just being a 66 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: great team player and wanted to learn and wanted to listen. 67 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: I think having you know, the switch of a coaching 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: staff and having able to get her in practice and 69 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: working the things she needs to work on is very 70 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: is very good for her, and I think it's very 71 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: good for young girls. As well. You know, I think 72 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: it's the very crucial development time for the younger girls 73 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: coming through our first two years or three years of 74 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: professional volleyball. And you know her, she's just handled so well. 75 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: I'm just so proud of her. 76 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: That's great, all right, Well, let's move on to Thursday 77 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: nights doubleheader. Houston swept love Omaha twenty six, twenty four, 78 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty three, twenty five, sixteen. No surprise here, 79 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Thompson dominated yet again. Girls got seventy eight kills 80 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: in her last four. 81 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Matches, which is insane. 82 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: No right now, jt rested Wednesday night against you guys, 83 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: but she continues to put up numbers when she is 84 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: on the court. Now, despite the slow start to the season, 85 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: she leads the league in points with one hundred and twenty. 86 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Madison Skinner is actually second with one hundred nineteen. But 87 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: what is Jordan doing now that she wasn't doing earlier 88 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: this season? 89 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: I think again, it's just selling into that world. Jordan 90 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: is this person everywhere she goes. I was able to 91 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: watch her in Turkey obviously playing for the national team 92 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: and her selling to her role. Heber Houston is going 93 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: to be a great piece of the puzzle for their team, 94 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: and her just being consistent every single night and bringing 95 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: her best game is going to be a big piece 96 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: for Houston and just being who she is. So it's 97 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: very I'm admiring. I'm admiring her actually, so yeah, remarket. 98 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: I think we're all admiring her. Yeah, she's amazing. 99 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, she's my friend, but I'm 100 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: kind of fangirling, like she's she's amazing, Like I just 101 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: she's I had there's little things that she says that 102 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: I am staying in my head that dropt the damn, 103 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: just kind of like I have this girl's voice in 104 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: my head, like she's great, Like she is great, She's amazing. 105 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 106 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: Well, we've talked about the importance of pushing through till 107 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: the end, not giving up. Houston had pretty decent LEAs 108 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the first two sets it was 109 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: twenty four to nineteen, twenty three, nineteen respectively. Omaha came 110 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: back to make those close matches, but it was our girl, 111 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Thompson who came to the rescue and both sets 112 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: to ultimately take their team to victory. 113 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: Now, if you are in Omaha's shoes. Two close sets 114 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: with two almost comebacks, how do you keep your head up? 115 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: I think, like any team, it's just getting back to 116 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: the drawing board and figuring out those pieces to what 117 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: she can do to make things work. You know, they 118 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: stuff so much time the season is we're right in 119 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: the middle of the season right now, we have two 120 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: months to go and just kind of get back to 121 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: the drawingboarding scene what they can do together and try 122 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: to get out this hole there in right now. I 123 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 3: think it's important to kind of find a quick turnaround 124 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: as much as they fast as they can, just like 125 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: they can figure out things in the long run. 126 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Both you guys and Houston played five games in seven days, 127 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: so talk about the toll that that playing that much 128 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: has on your body and the importance of multiple days 129 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: off that you guys get to recover. 130 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: I mean, for me, like I'm on the bench right now. 131 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: Well I was on the bench, but I'm yelling a lot, 132 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: so my voice is trying to kind of recover. I 133 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: think as athletes, the recovery part is really important. It's hard, 134 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: you know, it's just like running a marathon. But the 135 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: positive impact of it is that like this league is 136 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: so incredible, and each team has so many different players, 137 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: and the bench is very very deep, so you get 138 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: to exceed the starting six, take a rest, and like 139 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: to the second string and third string. I hate to 140 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: say that, but like the next superstars are on the 141 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: bench to come in and show what they can do. 142 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: So you can see where I kind of play a 143 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: lot of good volleyball right now. So it's a good 144 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: thing and a bad thing. 145 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: You were on the bench because on Thursday night in 146 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: the nightcap, you kind of came out and dominated this one, 147 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: which is so fun to watch. 148 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: So before we get into how awesome. 149 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: You were in that match, let's let me just say that, 150 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, Love Austin defeated Love Salt Lake and four 151 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: sets twenty five, twenty one, twenty five, twenty two, twenty one, 152 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty five, twenty one. You led the team 153 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: with eleven kills. You had some amazing highlights to watch. 154 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: How did this like? How'd you feel this game? Where? 155 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: What was coursing through your veins that night? 156 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I haven't had a lot a lot 157 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: of preparation because again, our bench is so deep, we 158 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: have four opposite so right now, Julian and Mattie and 159 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: I go to opposite so shout out to Collie de Hogue. 160 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: Like me and her on the on the silenes, eve 161 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: been at practice, so we don't get a lot of 162 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: repetition or anything. So Chris trusting me and knowing what's 163 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: been going on and letting me get into my thing 164 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: and being apple is what I do. So I was, 165 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: you know, some opportunity to go in and play some volleyball, 166 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: and I was just happy to gather and do and 167 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: I was very happy. My teammager was just as excited 168 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: as I was. 169 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: H what was your favorite part of that match. 170 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: Besides getting tired? No, Maddie's young. So I was telling you, 171 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: you know, in the third said, I was like, I 172 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: do this little thing. I kind of like I have 173 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: an impaler. So I kind of pump a little bit. Okay, Chris, 174 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, honestly, I'm tired, and uh, if 175 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: you want to sell me out right now, like I'd 176 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: be okay with that. He was like, what are you serious. 177 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's what it's all about, you know, 178 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Like that's what it should be about. The teams. All 179 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: the teams are stacked you know we can keep up 180 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: the Hall of a bullyball girls are just like, hey, 181 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, I'm tired. There's someone else that can come 182 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: in and make an impact. Let her come in, jump 183 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: in if you need to go back in great you know. 184 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: So Maddie was. I was like, Maddie, you young, like, 185 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: get in there and get it in. The after She's like, 186 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: it's okay, I can do. It's like, yeah, I know 187 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: you can't you Yeah, young Gene, you got young knees. Girl, 188 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: you're young. And also Koto, like Koto is a force 189 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: to be reckoned with. She is amazing. Coacho is amazing. 190 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Koto, I want to give a little 191 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: bit of libero love. As someone who was a libero, 192 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm all about the Libero. 193 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: Yet out to the bros. 194 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Shout out to the bros. Exactly, well, you're bro kotoe 195 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: in Ay. The ladies like to call her Kotol. She 196 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: earned Player of the Match on hers the twenty digs 197 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: for Sis and although it's not recorded as a kill, 198 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: she had a. 199 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Bump kill, which to me is one of my favorite 200 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: things to happen. All the prediction. 201 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: Oh wow about the kill for Koto Andoay are. 202 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: You joking me? 203 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: It was an overpass her dig, but she had a 204 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: sick dig and it happened to land on salt Lake's 205 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: court in the deep corner for a point. 206 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely amazing. Do you guys get excited like I get 207 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: excited for the sing? 208 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we get electrified like anything that Koto does. Though. 209 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: The bench is just everyone everyone's just going crazy. You know, Koto, 210 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: she's such a great athlete. I'm as libero. She's able 211 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: to play literally all three parts. She swings. She's had 212 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 3: a few times, so she's swung this past week, and 213 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: you know she's playing and middle back and scooping everything, 214 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: and left back is where she's made to be obviously, 215 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: scooping everything. So her being player of the matches will deserve. 216 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: And I've watched her interview at least like three times, 217 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Like she is the cutest thing. Sometimes I remind myself that, 218 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: like Koto was older than I am, you know, but 219 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: I'm just like, you're my little baby. Just want to 220 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: like what you know. 221 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: So tam match is so amazing organized, it's so nice. 222 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: I'm so enjoyed. 223 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Nah, we were all so excited for her, so excited. 224 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: She's so adorable. 225 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: I completely agree, and I love that she's on your team, 226 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: that you get to be a part of her team. 227 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: I live vicariously through you on that one. 228 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: I'm always like taking hear things like dance moves are 229 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: like honestly bad words and stuff. So there's one of 230 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: videos going around. I was like, we do a thing 231 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: to say, what the F? And she's like, Kat, what 232 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: the F? Because she got player in the match and 233 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: I was like. 234 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: What, That's amazing. 235 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: She's so cute. All right. 236 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, for the last match of the weekend, we had 237 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: a hard fought five set match between Love Madison and 238 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Love Atlanta, with Atlanta pulling out the w twenty five fifteen, 239 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty one, twenty three, twenty five, twenty three, 240 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: twenty five fifteen seven. Now Madison almost pulled off a 241 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: reverse suite but couldn't finish it in the fifth What 242 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: did they do to lose in that fifth setter? 243 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: Or what did Atlanta do to win in that fifth set? 244 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's all about being consistent. You know, 245 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: going to f s set is like taking your last 246 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: breath and being able to hold it, you know what 247 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And if you can't hold that last breath 248 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: before you're gonna drown, you know. And Danielle Katina, she's 249 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 3: just a rocket, you know. And Danielle does what she 250 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: does all the time. I think again she said, link 251 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: to her role just like JT is and having daniel 252 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: on the team is also something to have very important 253 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: and it's going to be a great leadership role, a 254 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: great roll of points, and Danielle did a great match 255 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: that night. 256 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of Danielle, a triple double for her. She finished 257 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: with twenty four points thanks to twenty one kills and 258 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: three blocks, while also racking up ten digs in two assists. 259 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: Katito, it's all power. 260 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: She's put up numbers throughout the season, but this match 261 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: was a season high for her in all categories. 262 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: So what was different this time? 263 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: I think for her, it's just no a mindset, you know, 264 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: she's bouting different things, you know, trying to step into 265 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 3: leadership role since they have now jess is out from 266 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: her NCAL injuries, so Danielle was definitely have to kind 267 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: step into that leadership role for the opportunity, so she 268 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: has an oput comunity. She's ready to compete and show 269 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 3: everyone what she can do and just believing herself and 270 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: trusting herself and knowing that she's a great athlete. So 271 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: she's Daniel's gonna is a dog like she's a dog, 272 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: And I'm really excited to see the games coming forward 273 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: when her competing. This is coming out week now. 274 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Madison is sitting in the basement of the standings at 275 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: one and seven, but they have multiple players in the 276 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: top five of different statistical categories. For example, outside Sarah 277 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: Franklin is fifth in points and fourth and kills, Taylor 278 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: Sambothy is fourth and aces sedor Lauren Carlini is second 279 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: in assists. 280 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: As just naming a few of them. 281 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: So what do they need to do to turn their 282 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: season around, because clearly they have the makeup there. 283 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I think Madison is dealing with a 284 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: few injuries and stuff with players, and I think player 285 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: management on and off the court mentally and physically is 286 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: going to be the biggest thing. Again, just getting back 287 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: to the drawing board and trying to figure out what 288 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: they can do moving forward and trusting themselves and trying 289 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: to see those pieces with the new players come into 290 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: the court and trying to find that rhythm so they 291 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: have some time again and that's just the biggest thing 292 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: I think part of the game they have to kind 293 00:11:59,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: of develop. 294 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: Now, there's definitely more time, like you said, two more 295 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: months left of the season to go, but we're going 296 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: to continue this podcast because when we come back, you 297 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: and I are going to sit down with three time 298 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: Emmy winning broadcaster and one of the voices of League 299 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: One Volleyball, A Marie Anderson. We talk about the differences 300 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: in women's volleyball and women's sports throughout the years and 301 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: the world, her broadcast career, as well as her book 302 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: Cultivating Audacity and How to Reach Your Goals. 303 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: So make sure you stay tuned. 304 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: We are back with Emmy winning broadcaster Anne Marie Anderson. 305 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: Ann Marie has spent more than three decades in sports television, 306 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: having covered six Olympic Games, heavyweight title fights, golf majors, 307 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: NBA and MLB playoffs, and the Super Bowl, among countless 308 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: other marquee events. She's also a highly sought after speaker 309 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: in MC and has written the book Cultivating Audacity, Dismantled 310 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: Doubt and Let Yourself Win, which is a step by 311 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: step guide to help people discover what has been holding 312 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: them back from doing. 313 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: The thing that they have wanted to do. 314 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: Anne Marie's volleyball roots date back to when she was 315 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: in college at Hostra, where she helped lead the team 316 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: to an East Coast Conference Championship title, and for the 317 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: past several years, she's traveled internationally calling the national men's 318 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: and women's volleyball teams in Volleyball Nations League for Volleyball World. 319 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: Now she's our lead play by play for League one Volleyball, 320 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: and she's here on the podcast. Ann Marie, Welcome to 321 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: Serving Pancakes. 322 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be here. 323 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: I'm ready. 324 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: Let's serve. 325 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: Let's serve. Anri. 326 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: You've been traveling now for League one Volleyball for ESPN. 327 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: What have you noticed so far about this league versus 328 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: other volleyball leagues that you've covered. 329 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: There is no other league that can match in terms 330 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 4: of the talent of this league. I think, you know, 331 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: we were looking at it and we're like, oh, there's 332 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: all these Olympians, all these national champions. But I think 333 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: the American audiences don't know these international players the way 334 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: that some of us do. You mentioned I've been traveling overseas. 335 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: I mean when I saw Kojima, I was like, oh, 336 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: my gosh, they've got Kojima, you. 337 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: Know stand I'm a coach, yeah, all that. 338 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: So I just think the level is something that has 339 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: never been seen in this country. 340 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Before, with the level of play in the level that 341 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: you've seen in the stands and everything. Because you've witnessed 342 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: fans in other countries witnessing them cheering on other international teams. 343 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: What have you noticed about the fans in these games? 344 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: I think the fans are a little stunned at first, 345 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: right because they're so used to seeing college volleyball, which 346 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: was incredibly high level here. But there's something about the 347 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: what do I want to say? Violence? All that just 348 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: electricized people and seeing the eyes open on the American 349 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 4: audiences being like, dang, that is a hot ball. So 350 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: it's really fun. 351 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: That's amazing. We'll go back to the days when you 352 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: used to play. What's the biggest difference versus when you 353 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: played back in the day and today? 354 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god, cat Bell please, it wasn't that long ago. 355 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: It was just like five years. Don't worry. 356 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And we're also talking about Texas and Hostra. Let's 357 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: just do it's a different game. The biggest difference we 358 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: didn't have libros I think I would have liked to 359 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: have been a Libro. I just feel like, you know, 360 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: identifying where people are going. Plus at five eleven, I'm 361 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: not tall enough anymore to be a hitter, no jump. 362 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: So I think we're seeing the way that librats have 363 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: changed the game and extended rallies and it's just made 364 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: it so much fun. 365 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: So let's see, Rodriguez just made her debut the other 366 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: week and in the back row for Omaha it was 367 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: Lexi Jessin, Wong Morante is Jordan Larson. So talking about 368 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: just like that force and like having those girls back 369 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: there who dig everything, I mean that is a game 370 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: changer for sure. 371 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think also the American fans, Now, this 372 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: is what's the timing of this league is so great 373 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: because we have stars, we have stars and the fans 374 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: are able to attach. Is just the access I mean, 375 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: certainly the club athletes and the way that they're able 376 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: to see these pros. But I would have gone crazy 377 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: to see Flo Hymen or Rita Crockett or Debbie Green. 378 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's it makes it attainable and reachable. I maan' 379 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: pat you know this. The eyes get so big because 380 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: I think maybe I can. 381 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think so many players even 382 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: right now abroad that I think about retiring. I want 383 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: to come back and be a part of this. So 384 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing that's really cool about being a 385 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: part of love. Honestly, that's really cool. Yeah. 386 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well is there anything that you learn from your 387 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: playing days that you still carry with you today as 388 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: a former setter? 389 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: You know what's really funny is like all broadcasters are setters, 390 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: by the way, if you haven't noticed that, Like Hollywood 391 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: peak and Salima's my partner because we're used to like 392 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: driving the bus. I think, I think really excites me 393 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 4: about being in volleyball for this long I started playing, 394 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: I don't know, seventh grade or something. Is just seeing 395 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: how it's developed and advancing the athletes are bigger and 396 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: stronger and more exciting. But also all the lessons that 397 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: you learn as an athlete and how it serves you 398 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: in every other place in life. I just love how 399 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: everybody's owning their space now in women's sports and how 400 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 4: yeah people do watch women's sports. 401 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: And we know that. Now, what does that mean, Like 402 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 3: you being a part of women's in sports today compared 403 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: to when you played before. How important is it today? 404 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: Well, it's just it changed my life. I can't imagine. 405 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: You know I benefited from Title nine. I guess I 406 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: was one of the early ones benefiting from Title nine. 407 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: I was a little bit unaware. The only fan letter 408 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: I have ever written was to Billy Jean King for 409 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: what she did for Title nine. Because what would I 410 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: be doing if my life weren't about sports. I've spent 411 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: my entire career in sports broadcasting. I have three kids 412 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: who play sports. I believe in competing in very competitive 413 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: business and television. I cannot there was no plan be 414 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 4: you guys. It was all about sports. 415 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: Actually, it's really interesting because you I mean, I know 416 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: that you played after Title nine existed, but you know, 417 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: you've kind of seen this crazy evolution of sports, women 418 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: in sports when it comes to the beginning of Title 419 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: nine and then where it was during that period of 420 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: time before NIL began and now it's the NIL era, 421 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: and as we now know, women's sports has exploded. There's 422 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: bars that are just showing women's sports. Right, what do 423 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: you think is still to come when it comes to 424 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: women's sports in general? 425 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: I think when we stop calling it women's when it's 426 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 4: just sports, right, I mean, when it is just basketball 427 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: and it is just volleyball. That's what I'm looking forward 428 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 4: to is when we get there and we can drop 429 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: the qualifier locket. 430 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that locket. 431 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: When you were playing volleyball, was there any thought in 432 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: your mind about going professional or trying to play professional 433 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: or was your mind kind of set on going the 434 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: TV career out because you started in TV like in college. 435 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 4: I started, yeah, working in college, So yes, there was 436 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: a discussion about going and playing overseas. Of course this 437 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: didn't exist until this year, this you know, super high 438 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: level Olympic lead. Not that I would have made it 439 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: by any means, but no, I knew I had to 440 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: go really for my television career, because going overseas and 441 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 4: playing it just wasn't a sustainable option. 442 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: Really, I have a question for that because I'm someone 443 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: that's also done with that kind of situation, that pivot, Like, 444 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: what is it? How do you let go of being 445 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 3: that phenomenal athlete the sports that you love and taking 446 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: that next step going into your career that you're kind 447 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: of almost leaving volleyball behind for a little bit. Yeah, 448 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: are you leaving volleyball behind kat possibly I'm trying to 449 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: get some reps right now. Give yeah the podcast where 450 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: I was where I want to go for sure, but 451 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: you know, going to br casting. 452 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: So I started ESPN at twenty one years old. I 453 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: just got really lucky with a six month temporary job and. 454 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: I just never let go. 455 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: And it's been thirty five years now. But there's a 456 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: lot that you used from sports into a broadcasting career 457 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: or any career. And the first thing is competition and 458 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: healthy competition and competing. I remember that Jim McLoughlin, when 459 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: he was coaching at the University of Washington, said the 460 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: first thing I have to do is teach these women 461 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: to compete. This is, of course, fifteen years ago, because 462 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 4: there was still that stigma of like, we send our 463 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 4: boys out to playing with say fight hard, go win, 464 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: and then they'd send their girls out and be like 465 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: be nice, make friends, and I was like, yeah, no, no, 466 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: go out there and kill them kind of thing. So 467 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: I think that same killer instinct comes into the boardroom 468 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: of wherever you are working and you're c suite whatever 469 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: it is, And the big thing for me is collaboration 470 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: to work. I've had many different broadcast partners. A couple 471 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: have not been a part of a team, they don't 472 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: understand and how to collaborate. 473 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, I've actually had this question asked me a 474 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: bunch of times throughout my career, because I've been in 475 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: the sports media industry now for almost twenty years myself, 476 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: and you always get that question. 477 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: Was it hard? Did the men treat you differently? 478 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: You know? 479 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: What was it like trying to make your way up 480 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: the ladder in this very male dominated industry. Do you 481 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: have any anecdotes or any stories that you went through 482 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: that you had to sort of persevere or you had 483 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: to overcome to get to where you are, or did 484 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: you get treated respectfully and fairly? 485 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, what a question, right, because girls, how 486 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: much time do we have? 487 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, speil the tea, speiled the tea. 488 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 4: I'll give you one. I'll give you one. 489 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Uh. 490 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: When I was a producer at ESPN before I went 491 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: on air, I was covering Mike Tyson fight in Vegas. 492 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: So I was a producer. I had an all male 493 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: crew that was we were working together at male reporter, photographer, 494 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 4: audio sound people as well and a runner. And as 495 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 4: we're setting up to interview Mike Tyson. A guy comes over. 496 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: He's irritated about something I don't know, and he goes, 497 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: I want to speak to the guy in charge. I 498 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: want to speak to the guy in charge. So the 499 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 4: men I work with always were really respectful, and they 500 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: were like, you know, here she is. And I walked 501 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: over and I said, hey, how can I help you? 502 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: And he said I want to talk to the guy 503 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 4: in charge. And I said, well, I'm in charge. How 504 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: can I help you? And he goes, I want to 505 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: talk to your boss. And I said, oh, my boss okay. 506 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: And meanwhile, my boss is in Connecticut. I'm in Vegas. 507 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: I'm working. So I said, Jeff, who's our photographer and 508 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: a good friend, Jeff, can you get a chair for 509 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: this guy? And so he did, and I said, just 510 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 4: have a seat here, and I went back to setting up, 511 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: because what do you want me to do? I'm still 512 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: sitting up a thing. After about five minutes, the guy's 513 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: super hot and he said, hey, is this guy ever 514 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: going to show up? And I said what guy? And 515 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: he said the guy in charge? And I said, oh no, 516 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: I already told you that I was in charge. I 517 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: got the chair so you could take a moment to 518 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: your head around it. 519 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, my gosh, I'm just saying, do you 520 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: know what you do? 521 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 4: Don't don't come for me unless I send for you. 522 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: Is that right? That's right, that's right, that's right. 523 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: Good for you. 524 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: That was my biggest thing I think I worry about 525 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: is just like transitioning, I don't want to lose the 526 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: personality who I am. You know what I'm saying, And 527 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: I love that. Like interviewing you right now, I'm like, 528 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: she is herself, she says what she wants and she's 529 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 3: like sitting tin toes down, Like that's something I want 530 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: to keep doing for myself as well. That's this is amazing. 531 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: You can't lose who you are. I mean, that's the 532 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 4: whole point is you know, everybody bringing themselves. Who do 533 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: you want to watch? You want to watch an AI 534 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: cut out? Or do you want to watch somebody with 535 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: some personality? 536 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: Exactly? 537 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. 538 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more from our interview with Anne 539 00:23:47,560 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Marie Anderson. Actually that kind of is a perfect segue 540 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: to your book because I feel like, Okay, so your 541 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: book title is called Cultivating Audacity, Dismantled Doubt and let 542 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: yourself win and I feel like finding your true self, 543 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: finding who you are and taking that step to be 544 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: the person that you want to be and show the 545 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: personality that of who you are. 546 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 2: Right like that. 547 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Seems like that's what you're trying to say. But what 548 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: made you eventually write this book? Because it just came 549 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: out in January? So this is, you know, thirty five 550 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: years in sports media broadcast career and all of a 551 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: sudden you write this amazing book. 552 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: What was the impetus behind it? 553 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 4: Thank you? I just get super bummed when I hear 554 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: somebody say I don't want to go to work. I've 555 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: literally never had a day in my life that I 556 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: haven't wanted to go to work because I have such 557 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: a great job. And if you're not happy with something 558 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 4: in your life, and it can be anything, you could 559 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: be in a relationship that's rough, for your health, whatever 560 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 4: it is, it's time maybe to evaluate it and take 561 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: some risks. And audacity is a willingness to take bold risks. 562 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: And my entire career has been built on risk taking, 563 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: worth it versus reckless and it's led me to a 564 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 4: life I'm super excited about. And I wanted to actually 565 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: teach other people to do that. It isn't just a 566 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: book saying go for it, you can do it. It's 567 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: a book saying, Okay, here's the barriers there commonly in place. 568 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: Which one of these things to you the most? Let's 569 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: dig into it, break it down, and set up the 570 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: systems so you can wake up to a life you're 571 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: excited about every day. 572 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the biggest thing about that is people 573 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: have a lot of self doubt. Like you know, you 574 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: talk about dismantling doubt. What is something in your life 575 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: you think you're able to dismantle that part about yourself 576 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: to be able to take that first leap forward, Like 577 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: if there was one thing in you're writing the book 578 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: or part of your career. Yeah. 579 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: No, but I was, as I said, a producer, and 580 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 4: I wanted to go on air For ten full years. 581 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: I didn't even tell anybody at ESPN that I wanted 582 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 4: to go on air. My friends, nobody, And it's because 583 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 4: I was afraid they would say, like, who does. 584 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 3: She think she is right? 585 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: That's the audacity kind of thing or what makes her 586 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: so special? Terrified that I was going to be bad 587 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 4: or embarrassed, judged, And you know what happened cat When 588 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: I went on air, I was bad, embarrassed and judged, 589 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 4: and I still survived it anyway. 590 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna happen anyways. 591 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: So that's where I learned with audacity that the win 592 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: in audacity and taking that bold risk is in the 593 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: action and not in the outcome. I was afraid i'd 594 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 4: be bad. I was. It was no big deal. I 595 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 4: went back the second time. I was just as bad. Frankly, 596 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: it just wasn't the first time. 597 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: How did you overcome that, though, Because I feel like 598 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people get nervous and all of a 599 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: sudden they get in their heads like I'm not good 600 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: at this. I don't think I'm going to be good 601 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: at this. I'm too afraid to go back and try 602 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: it again. How did you get over that? 603 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I had a contract, so I 604 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: had to go back next week. No, but I had 605 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: all those things. I mean, I was crying outside the 606 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: stadium to my then husband. Just what you want in 607 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: your sideline reporter, like sobbing outside of stadium saying I'm 608 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: going to be so terrible it's going to ruin you know, 609 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: my entire career. Okay, you let that sit there. Here's 610 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: the key, you guys. You make friends with fear. We've 611 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: been told to push fear away, conquer your fears, overcome 612 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: your fears that can't happen. I don't buy it at all. 613 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: Make friends with fear, hold it close, and acknowledge what 614 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: it is you're afraid of, and then have the faith 615 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: that you're going to survive the outcome, no matter what 616 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: it is. I traveled with fear as a passenger all 617 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 4: the time. It just doesn't get to drive. 618 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 3: That's amazing. I like, can I hear this kind of stuff? 619 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: Like I feel like, Okay, I'm on the right track 620 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: because like for me, if I have any kind of 621 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: like let's say, for example, when I first started playing 622 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: players anxiety, and you know, you try so hard just 623 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 3: to try to like push off those feelings and those 624 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: emotions and talk like those healthy like talk words to 625 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: yourself like you got this, you can do it. But 626 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: sometimes it's a war, and it's so much more energy 627 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: to take on that like trying to push yourself up 628 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: yourself to be positive then rather just like sinking into it, 629 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 3: letting it ride out and then overcoming it. And that's 630 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: something I've learned throughout my career is that like, Okay, 631 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: this is how I'm feeling. We've ball like, let's just 632 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 3: be in this and eventually you'll fall off, you know so, 633 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 3: and it's helped me. Honestly, that's great, that's amazing. 634 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: That's a real that's You're inner critic, right that we 635 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 4: all have in all aspects of our life, is telling 636 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 4: you stuff. The easiest thing I did was separate that 637 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 4: inner critic from myself. And it happened with my daughter 638 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: when she's in sixth grade. I picked her up from school, Hey, 639 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: how is school? And she's like, I'm dumb, i can't 640 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: do math, and oh, by the way, I'm fat, And 641 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, there's a lot to unpack there, right, 642 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: that middle school angst. And so once we talked about it, 643 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: we decided to give that voice the name Jerry. Because 644 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 4: there's no way my daughter would say that to anybody else. 645 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: So I told her there's no way that voice is yours, 646 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: so separate it. And then I said, well, what would 647 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: you say to Jerry if he said that to you? 648 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: You know, you're stupid and you can't do math and 649 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: you're fat, And she goes, I'd say, shut up. Jerry, 650 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: and I said, well, so then that's what you're going 651 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 4: to say. This is not helpful to me right now. 652 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: And when I hear my owner critics say something that's 653 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: you know, really seeding down, I'm like, I'm doing it anyway, 654 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: So you are not being helpful right now. 655 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: A great tactic, and I am totally going to use that, 656 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: especially with my daughter when she starts to get that 657 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: middle school angst, because I'm gonna use that for myself. 658 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to use that with her too. 659 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: I know. 660 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: Now, what about like the support system? Because I feel 661 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: like there's always a group of people that need to 662 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: kind of help you, inspire you, motivate you besides just yourself. 663 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: You know, you need people around you who are willing 664 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: to either help you when you fail or keep pushing 665 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: you along when things are going great. But what happens 666 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: when you're around people who aren't supporting you? How do 667 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: you get around that to keep succeeding? Like this guy 668 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: who you know kept asking for for the guy who 669 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: was in charge, right, you know, someone who's kind of 670 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: stepping in your way because they don't think that you 671 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: should be in charge, or that they don't think that 672 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: you should be where you are. 673 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: He doesn't get a vote. And that's the thing. My 674 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: friend Laura Gastner Otting wrote a book called Limitless, and 675 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: she says, don't give a voice to anybody who shouldn't 676 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: have a vote. And what I believe is that you 677 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: curate your own front w You pick certain people to 678 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: be in your front row, and those are the people 679 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: that you would respect their advice, that they pick you up, 680 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: and they encourage you, and they redirect you, and they 681 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: tell you the truth. And I'll tell you who's not 682 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: in your front row. Probably not your mom, probably not 683 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: your best friend, because they want you to be safe. 684 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: They don't want to see you get hurt. Your front 685 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: row needs to be people that are doing big things 686 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: on their own who are going to push you. Maybe 687 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: it's somebody in the same area that you're interested in professionally, 688 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: Maybe it's not. And I have I have a fitness 689 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: front row. I have a personal front row who I 690 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: told first about my divorce kind of I have my 691 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 4: professional front row. You guys should know the name Holly McPeak. 692 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: She's a three time Olympian and NCAA champion. She's in 693 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: my fitness front row along with Nicole Brand who's another Olympian. 694 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: If I don't show up for Orange Theory, they're calling, 695 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: they're texting, you know, and I'm like, I need new 696 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: friends that aren't Olympians because I don't want to work 697 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: out that hardy being like, so somebody who's going to 698 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: hold you accountable, they hold me accountable for fitness. You 699 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: need those people and then everybody else no vote and 700 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 4: don't get a vote. 701 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: That's great when you're feeling stuck. How do you kind 702 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: of get out of those moments in those modes? Like, 703 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: what's something that you use to drive yourself when you're 704 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: having a bad day or just kind of low and energy. 705 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: What do you use to kind of get you to 706 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: spice up a little bit? 707 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, or find your thing right, because I have that 708 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 4: one thing that we'd like to do but don't necessarily 709 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: know how to get there. But then for other people, 710 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: and I think this is what you're alluding to, Kat, 711 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: You just know it isn't this. Yeah, Like, whatever I 712 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 4: want to do, I'm not sure what it is, but 713 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: it isn't this. And I give a couple of tools 714 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: in the book. It's based on the word ikey guy, 715 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: a Japanese concept which a lot of you may be 716 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: familiar with. Ikey guy is a Japanese word that loosely 717 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: translated means your reason for being, and it's often depicted 718 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 4: in Western culture in event diagram, which is what are 719 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: you good at? What do you love? What is the 720 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: world need? And what can I be paid for for me? 721 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: I introduced it in the book Cultivating Audacity as a 722 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: funnel because I don't think you're just one thing, and 723 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: so at the top of my funnel it would be 724 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: you know, what do you enjoy? There's all kinds of 725 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: things I enjoy, you know, sports, gardening, international travel, whatever, 726 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: What are you good at? Well? I kill every plant 727 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 4: I've ever had, so that doesn't even make it through 728 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: the first thing. Kids are still alive, though, so I 729 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: feel good about that, But plants no, So like, nobody's 730 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: gonna pay me to garden. And if you get the idea, 731 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: it keeps coming down. What does the world need? So 732 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: for me, I felt like the world needs sports as entertainment. 733 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 4: The world needs somebody who wants to lift others up, 734 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: and that's what I want to do with this book. 735 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: And the world needs people that are good mothers and 736 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: that's what I try to be for my kids. So 737 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 4: when it filters all the way down at the end, 738 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: that's your audacious goal. And so what we're talking about. 739 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: I love to travel internationally, so I do that for VNL, 740 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: talk about sports, volleyball and parent They let me bring 741 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: my kids. So like my daughter's company stumble with me 742 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 4: this summer. You know, she's been to the Netherlands, in 743 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: Spain and pol And my sons to see all this. 744 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 4: So when you create the life, the entire life that 745 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: you're excited about, not just one piece, not just. 746 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: Your job speaking of volleyball and broadcasting for volleyball. 747 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Did you want to broadcast volleyball or is this just 748 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: one of those happy, full circle moments that brought you back. 749 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: I didn't think it could be a career because you know, 750 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 4: there wasn't any volleyball on TV then. And you know 751 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: when I first started, you already talked about how I 752 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: was producing Super Bowl coverage or Olympic coverage. And when 753 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: it was about two thousand and three, when there was 754 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 4: a new network called College Sports Television, it was a 755 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: CBS network that started televising all sports. And so that's 756 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: when I started with volleyball wanted to work year round, 757 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: so became a play by play announcer. And I've been 758 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 4: played by play for basketball, softball, soccer, water polo, but 759 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 4: you know, volleyball's always had a little special place in 760 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: my heart. 761 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: Of course. Well, people worked like so many amazing events, 762 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: Like is there any events that you could pinch yourself 763 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: and say, hey, you know what, I can't believe I'm here, 764 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: Like how did I get in this moment right now? 765 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: What's your favorite, you know, broadcasting. 766 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: Moment covering the Dream Team at the nineteen ninety two Olympics. 767 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: That is insane. Yeah, that is insane. 768 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 4: Wow, it was wild. It was so crazy trying to 769 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: even get in to do our job because they were 770 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 4: global superstars global. And you know what's so funny. You 771 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 4: had asked me earlier, Tiffany, I have three kids. They 772 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 4: had no idea until COVID. You know, We're clipped in 773 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 4: the house for watching the Last Dance seeing Michael Jordan 774 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, yeah, I did this, and 775 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 4: they were like, mom, seriously, I mean, I don't know, 776 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: I just shopped at Target all day or but I 777 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I had life before you guys. But 778 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: the dream Team was super cool. 779 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 2: That's really amazing, legendary. 780 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said to you before we started recording, 781 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: we could talk to for hours and we'd love to, 782 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: but sadly we do need to start to wrap up 783 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: the interview. But before we do, we did have two 784 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: fun questions, one each from us that we wanted to 785 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: ask you. 786 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: So is kat do you want to start? 787 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? If you could interview anyone in sports history, who 788 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: would it be? And why? 789 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: It would be Billy Jean King only because I haven't 790 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 4: had the opportunity to. And the first thing I would 791 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: say to her is thank you from all of us 792 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 4: for creating a world in which we can compete and 793 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 4: grind and swim, be disappointed, and be resilient. All of 794 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 4: that came out of her efforts. 795 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 3: I think love had like an interaction thing with her. 796 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: I think like last week, yeah, it was pretty cool, 797 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: or two weeks ago. 798 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, Billy Jean's an investor. 799 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: So Billy Jean, you hear this. 800 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: Now? 801 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: In similar veinsence, you were a volleyball player, if you 802 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: could pepper with anyone an athlete, celebrity, dead or alive, 803 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: who would you want to play with? 804 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 4: I oh, say, cat Bell, can't. 805 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: I yeah, my ball control is just good. 806 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 4: I'll be okay, we'll do it, you know, coming out 807 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: at one of these matches. But just don't hurt me, baby. 808 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 3: Okay, we should I got you, I got you, We. 809 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: Should well, Ann Marie, it's been a pleasure speaking with you. 810 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 811 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: We're super excited about your book, about everything that you're 812 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: doing for women's sports, for volleyball, for love. 813 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: We really appreciate everything you're doing. Thank you so much. 814 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: Thank you. 815 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: It's great talking to you guys. 816 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: Serving Pancakes is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership 817 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us 818 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 819 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Production by League One Volleyball. I'm your host 820 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: Tiffany Oshinsky. My co host is kat Bell. Anya Alvarez 821 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: is our senior producer. Our executive producers are Carrie Stett, Tamaradike, 822 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: and Lindsay Hoffman. Our marketing lead is Juwara Parker. Sound 823 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: editing and mixing by Daniel Gonzalez. Our theme music is 824 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: Pancakes by Eric W. Mass Here special thanks to Anne 825 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: Marie Anderson. Next week we'll recap Week eight and talk 826 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: to Love Salt Lakes, Sophie Fisher, and Skylar Fields. 827 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.