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Speaker 1: Come back. I'm Dale Lali. He is Matt Williamson, and

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Speaker 1: this is to drive on Steelers Nation Radio, and Matt,

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Speaker 1: we're looking here. As we did a little bit last

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Speaker 1: week at Jeremy Fowler's rankings, NFL executive coaches and scouts

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Speaker 1: ranked the top players at each position in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and the second position I wanted to look at today

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Speaker 1: was the quarterback position. And a little less variance with

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Speaker 1: this position than some of the others that we've looked.

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Speaker 2: At without a doubt. And what I find really interesting

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Speaker 2: about this list isn't the order therein. To be very

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Speaker 2: honest with you, and I don't envy putting this list together.

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Speaker 2: I know Jeremy's not voting, he's just compiling votes. But

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Speaker 2: last year, to me, I don't know if you remember this,

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Speaker 2: It was three hundred and sixty five days ago when

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Speaker 2: this came out last year and the world went bonkers.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's not in the top ten. Well he was allowed,

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Speaker 2: you know, like in the right if you bother to

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Speaker 2: read the write up. Lamar missed it by one vote,

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Speaker 2: and Deshaun Watson was ten and Lamar was eleven, and

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Speaker 2: I really thought, I don't know what ten out of

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Speaker 2: those eleven I would pick. There's eleven dudes that are

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Speaker 2: really top ten quarterbacks last year, and I remember saying

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Speaker 2: twelve and thirteen would be Kyler and Carr. I mean, again,

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Speaker 2: this is one year ago. But at that point, Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson was saving the Broncos. Aaron Rodgers was number one

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Speaker 2: on the list. Last year, number one coming off an MVP.

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Speaker 2: Stafford had just won the Super Bowl and was clearly

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Speaker 2: the Burrows and Herbert's were already established. It wasn't like

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Speaker 2: they're an unknown. So this year, I think the top

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Speaker 2: ten is much weaker, you know, Like last year, I

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Speaker 2: thought there was eleven top ten dudes, including Watson who

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Speaker 2: we didn't know where to put them. And now it's

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Speaker 2: like a to get to ten. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: the quarterback market is worse than it was, but it

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Speaker 2: leads me to the thought that I'm gonna be a

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Speaker 2: little disappointed, frankly, if Kenny Pickett isn't honorable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least getting some votes for this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not saying he should get him yet,

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Speaker 2: And there was really only two dudes. I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to ruin the list, but Lawrence and Hurts are top

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Speaker 2: ten guys. Of course we'll get to them. But one

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Speaker 2: year ago you couldn't find Hurtz's name on this whole thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean things changed quick in the year,

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Speaker 2: and most of these dudes arrows aren't pointing up besides

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Speaker 1: So the honorable mentions the guys who also received votes here,

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Speaker 1: I should say Tyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Justin Fields, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Not, I mean I understand it. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's got a vote. I mean, somebody thought you were

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Speaker 1: The honorable mentions Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Derek Carr,

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Speaker 2: So car Goff and Cousins are pretty much same, you

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Speaker 2: But I get them. They're honorable mentions every year, you

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Speaker 1: Right they're gonna get some votes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're quarterback twelve through sixteen. They're they're fine. Somebody's

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Speaker 2: gonna put him in their top ten every year. Two

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Speaker 2: is a little different. I mean, we could discuss him

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Speaker 2: he hasn't earned it in the last thousand days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking here at some of the comments about

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Speaker 1: two seasons, and then the other An NFC offensive coach said,

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Speaker 2: No, No, he absolutely did.

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Speaker 1: He was nineteen or twenty nine for two hundred and

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Speaker 3: Took seven sacks. In fact, in his last two games,

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Speaker 3: he took twelve sacks in his last two games. Now,

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Speaker 1: Like they beat they beat Washington in Week sixteen, twenty

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Speaker 2: And clearly his timing feel for the speed of the

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Speaker 2: He hadn't played in seven hundred days before his first

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Speaker 2: he's been good, you know. I.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I also say this, for as much love as

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And oh, by the way, for all the love

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's one of the top ten

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's just to me, like whenever, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I mean then that's guys are like, boy, he

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Speaker 1: It is weird. Number ten is Number ten is really weird.

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Speaker 1: it's Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford did not play like the

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Speaker 1: he was number ten, and that's Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I think as a thrower, I like Dak Prescott. As

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Speaker 2: get in this top ten, I guess, is my point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Put it this way. If if Kenny Pickett led

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Speaker 1: And he threw fifteen interceptions in twelve games, Like twelve

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Speaker 1: games he had fifteen interceptions. No, I know, and then

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Speaker 1: Last year was only four fumbles, only four. The previous

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Speaker 1: He's led the league in fumbles twice.

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Speaker 1: In ninety seven career games, he's got fifty two career fumbles.

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Speaker 1: Like that's not good. You can't have your quarterback putting

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Speaker 2: No, And he hasn't been playing behind awful offensive line.

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Speaker 1: No, he's been like like that, guys who were considered

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Speaker 1: At number eight, highest ranking, number four, lowest ranking, unranked.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old. Last year he was unranked.

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Speaker 1: And that's Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: But things changed quickly in three hundred and sixty five days.

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Speaker 1: Way better, way better.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was fifteen to two in touchdown to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the narrative around Hurts one year ago and

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Speaker 2: They're making him of the highest FAED guys in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you just kind of tipped your hand on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I keep referencing Warren Sharp's book, and I

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Speaker 1: How about his numbers from last year? Three thousand six

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Speaker 1: If Pickett did that, would you be would you be

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Speaker 1: Number three, highest ranking, number one, lowest ranking, number five.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. Last year he was number

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Speaker 2: wouldn't fight John.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I to me, Allen's just asked to do so

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Speaker 2: I mean he's That elbow injury was no joke.

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Speaker 2: He does, and they're starting to finally realize we can't

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Speaker 2: ask him to do that seventeen about twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: And I will say excuses or circumstances aside, and by

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Speaker 2: But Burrow did start the season very slow. I mean

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that would be his highest ranking, number one,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly. I mean, I think that's an easy one.

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Speaker 2: So I was hunting because I mentioned that that chapter

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Speaker 2: there because it's pretty crazy that. Let me just read

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Speaker 2: But Rogers has done it five times, and has done

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Speaker 2: He threw one less interception than he did in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane. It's insane. His accuracy over the years

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Speaker 2: And he's not Alex Smith thrown it in the ground

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Speaker 1: And the other thing about his accuracy, you know, in

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Speaker 2: Never take sacks. That's the other thing. He took sacks

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Speaker 2: he wasn't. I mean, I don't know if he was

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Speaker 2: just disinterested or thinking about his dark cave, or last

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Speaker 2: offseason was the shroom off season, maybe that wasn't so

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Speaker 1: Or just didn't trust the receivers, didn't trust the line

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Speaker 1: given this list, I'd be disappointed if Kenny Pickett's not

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Speaker 2: Me too. I wasn't gonna say, oh, maybe he'll get

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Speaker 2: of critical I mean there's a lot of dudes that

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Speaker 1: I mean you're looking here at one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't, Maybe you don't have to take the

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Speaker 2: And to compare him even in his second season to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's the right career trajectory

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Speaker 1: that you want to have. Again, Jalen Hurts in year

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Speaker 2: No, I thought he might be getting bench to in year.

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Speaker 1: Two wasn't on this list getting votes, right, right, So

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