WEBVTT - Leading Off July 24th, 2024 (Ep. 871) 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.560 Well, commit everybody to Fantasy Bros. MLB. This is Leading 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:10.239 Off Live, brought to you by Bet three six five. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.400 Bet five bucks get one hundred and fifty a bonus 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.560 bets when you use the promo code leading Off, but 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.360 only at bet three sixty five. It is me, Joey 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.079 p back again. That of course is the Welsh and 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.320 it's you, the Peanuts and the Cracker Jackson. I hope 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:28.000 you missed me yesterday because you know today. I don't 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:29.960 want to say we're starting off with negativity, but it's 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.600 a negative story. So hope you got all the positivity 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.320 I possibly could yesterday with Bubba because Welsh Mike Trout 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:41.239 left his minor league rehab game yesterday already with nie soreness. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:42.959 Now I know it's just knee soreness. I know it's 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.959 the first day, but that was not the plan. So 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:50.559 I understand vying on the side of caution. But oh, Welsh, 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.919 here we go again. What do we do here? You've 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.639 waited so long for Mike Trout and here we go. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.880 Could we possibly be having a bigger delay? Are we 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.120 gonna see him back by August? Or are we waiting 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.680 here till September? Or not at all. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.959 It's like the South Park bit Mike Trout and he's gone, 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:09.160 he's gone. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:09.840 Yeah, he's gone. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.520 Oh you want Mike Trout, you want draft him? Okay, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.840 let me let me take him in the second round. Okay, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.880 that looks good. Oh and you got him in your 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.800 starting outfitter and he's gone. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.240 And he's gone. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:19.000 I just drafted him. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.560 Yeah, he's gone, he's gone. It's done. Uh yeah, No, 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:22.880 I think this is gonna. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.160 Be a bad pushback. I don't think it's gonna be 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.560 anything crazy. I mean that Mike tells it's crazy. If 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.560 you look at the Angels right there, just shut him 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.920 down like they're not playing for anything. They're not going 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.800 to trade him. There's no point. It's all just like conjecture. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.440 It's like, oh, well, like we want to like have 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.160 him have a couple games going into next year, like 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:45.120 it's just for funzies. There's no reality to it. What 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.240 we were presented with was Mike Trout was going to do. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:49.600 A really small rehab. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.200 It's going to be like three games, two games, and 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.360 then it was his call and he was coming up 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.440 to the majors. That's fun. This I think is going 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.760 to slow that track. Obviously, there's always a possibility. It 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.960 could just be like normal realistic, like, oh, okay, he's fine, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.000 he's in two days and they. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:07.880 Start this backup. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.160 I think they probably are gonna slow this train out 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.880 a little bit so mid August instead of getting him 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.000 back right at the beginning of August, end of July. Here, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.839 it's probably like a mid August. But that's just me speculating. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.560 It's just not good when a guy who has a 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.880 surgically repaired knee goes out in two innings and then 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.880 hurts that thing right over again. Yeah, it just you're 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.680 not gonna really be hoping too much for it. And 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.400 I brought this up yesterday when you were in here, Joe. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.120 What's a bummer is if you were in the Joe, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.400 he's a Piist school of get this player off your team, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.119 trade him because of the risk. You didn't even really 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.400 get that window. There was no you needed the window 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.560 of him like having a couple of rehab games and 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.200 like that didn't happen. And this is probably more of 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.360 needing to realize you need to get rid of him 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.920 if you even could on your fantasy deadline. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.679 Well, it did happen because you remember that incredible tear 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.720 when he was so good. We had that whole show 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.959 that we dedicated to trading Mike Trout. We did get 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.160 that window. Okay, ye want to trade Mike Trout badly, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.280 and I'm glad that I did, because here we go again. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.960 Do you think that the three day rehab plan do 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.600 you think it's because the Angels thought there were some 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.680 teams kicking the tires that maybe we're gonna deal with 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.560 Mike Trout. Do you think maybe he was a deadline 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.120 guy kind of like under the radar. 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:22.840 You know what, under the radar. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.519 Maybe there's definitely a possibility, But it's always been Trout's call. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.600 So it's always been if he wants to do it, 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.320 every Angel's reporter because I saw there's like Foul Territory 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.760 had somebody on and somebody else had another reporter. Every 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.320 time the reporter's just kind of like their head goes 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.520 back and they're just like, yeah, they're never gonna trade 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:40.920 Mike Trout, So like. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:41.840 That's a possibility. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.840 But I do think the possibility is just this small 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.119 little inkling of like, hey, if we have him back 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:50.760 in a game healthy, we could entertain and present mister 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.880 Mike Trout with those ideas, because what are. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.760 We holding on for? I can't. I can't believe. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.720 Outside of not wanting to uproot your house and stuff 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.640 like that, why would you want to stay with the Angel? 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.560 Like? Why? Oh? I mean, look, the problem is who 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.560 wants to take the contract and that and that is 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.280 a real problem. And the Angels are gonna have to 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.560 eat some of that contract, whether they deal him in 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.000 five days from now or whether they deal him. Can 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.040 you deal someone on the IL? Are you allowed to 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:13.880 do that? Major? Yeah? 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.520 I think so. I think they're right. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.719 Yeah, I'm pretty because there talks about like how hazus 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.159 Lozardo could be traded still on the IL. There was 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.240 someone like five years ago that was traded on the IL. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:25.880 It is definitely a thing, but it has to be 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.919 approved because like you know, the medicals can nix trades. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.280 It has to be like an approval. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.880 Yeah. Look, it doesn't bode well. I mean, look, let's 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.719 say best case scenario, he takes today off, he plays Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.599 he comes back for what Tuesday, and then maybe you 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.800 could trade him on Wednesday. It's highly unlikely, but you know, hey, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.520 I'm sure he would love to go back and play 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.320 for the Phillies and make a run at the World Series. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.479 I mean, Mike Trout in the playoffs is something we 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.400 haven't seen much of. What I've seen six games, three 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:54.920 games from. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.200 Him, so interesting. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.360 What what do. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.600 You think just off the top of your head, knowing 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.200 everything we've done, remember how amazing he was at the 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.960 beginning of the year. This is always the story with 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.679 Mike Trout. Where do you think he's going to rank 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.960 next season? Because he was all over this season between 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.000 like fifty and seventy that was like a pretty good 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.560 mic Trout range, Like knowing with all the injuries, he 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.039 did perform super super well, but this just seems like 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:20.920 it's never gonna end. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.920 Where do you think you would maybe put him? 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:28.159 And we're not gonna hold you outfielders or overall overall, Okay, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.560 overall I think is a tougher question. Outfielders, I think 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.880 is an easy one. I mean, he can't be in 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.880 the top fifteen hitters. There's no way I can't put 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.080 him there. I don't think I can put him in 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.280 the top twenty hitters. I'm sure I'm looking at them 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.680 right now, Like, what. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.560 Was your easy outfield. You said it was easy, So 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:46.720 what's the easy. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.000 Well, I think in terms of outfielder, that's a much 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.960 easier thing to do because outfield is already kind of sparse, 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.279 like you can go through that. I'm just looking at 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.080 the productivity right now in MLB of the outfielders. Is 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:02.120 he a top fifteen outfielder? Probably, I think still theoretically 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.000 he's in that range, But overall he's outside the top 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.120 twenty for sure. I can name twenty players that'd rather 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.080 have him fantasy, just position players that I would feel 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.600 better about making that investment in. Yeah, well, it includes 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.960 all the Brian Reynolds. I mean how about that? I mean, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.440 would you take Mike Troud to Brian Renolds? 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.280 No? See, And I think that's where you're getting more 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.159 to the point you were saying. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.520 Top should take Jared Duran or would you take Mike 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.640 That's funny. Jared Durant was the one I was gonna 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.560 sit on here. I'm liking Jaron Duran, Duran and Reynolds whatever. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:33.000 Duran and Reynolds are probably like fifth round guys like that. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.360 In this year, Reynolds was like, you know, seventy five 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.280 eighty overall Duran was outside the top one hundred. They're 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.920 both probably like in the top fifty ish. Trout has 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.120 to be after them with the injury, though we know 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.480 the production was there. I think Mike Goose said seventh 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.720 or eighth round that's probably. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.159 His redraft ish value at this point. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.919 It's continuously backtracking, even though he was one of the 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.240 most productive players overall when he was held healthy the win. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.080 He's healthy, it is so prominent in and are never healthy. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.960 Look at that one right there by fred Dinger Rooker. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.200 I was looking at that one, Rooker or Trout, and 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.160 I think that's just a matter of volume. At this point, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.520 Rooker is going to have back to back seasons where 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.800 he is incredibly useful. I think it's really hard to 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:23.360 I would still, like, in my heart, i'd probably take Trout. Still, 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:24.960 here's the thing. Rooker's gonna put up back to back 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.240 thirty home run seasons right now? No, right, I mean, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.000 when's the last time Mike Trout has done that? 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.200 And I'm not looking, it's probably three years ago. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:37.120 Back to back, oh, back to back, probably like eighteen nineteen. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.720 I mean, I'm gonna look, let's see, that's a fun 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.600 game to play. When's the last time he's had back 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.320 to back thirty home run seasons. I gotta have to go. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.880 It's probably going it's probably gonna surprise you if we're 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:49.880 being honest. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:50.880 Here, really you think so? 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.840 Yeah, I have I have the numbers. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.360 Oh, back to back eighteen nineteen. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.760 I'm so smart, am I Just that's what I said. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:07:59.480 Five years ago. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.160 Long time is a long time ago, and they got. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.720 Who you were five years ago thirty three. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.080 We neither one of us worked at Fantasy Pros. I 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.200 think we were doing though the Fantasy Black Book podcast. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.240 I think we were five years ago. Pandemic. There was 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.520 one at toilet Paper. It was. It was a good 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.240 time to be a yeah, all right. Speaking of depressing outfielders, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.560 Julio Rodriguez goes to the ten day Ail with the 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:25.960 wretched dreaded high ankle spray for a while. Mm hmm. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.120 They throw that high ankle on there. That's gonna be 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.200 you know, more like weeks, not days. So John Didniclesse 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.280 gets brought up from Triple A. We'll keep an eye 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.839 on that. But returning was Jordan Montgomery yesterday, five innings, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.400 one run ball that was good against the Royals. Paul 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.920 Skens going into the night didning. How fun was that? 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.439 I mean it ended up not working out the ninth, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.160 but still eight strikeouts, eight and a third against the Cardinals. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:50.760 It was great to see a guy like Skiings go 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.920 out there. The ballpark was fired up. I think it 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.800 was like the Dogs at the Park night too, and 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:59.200 the dogs had mustaches. Everybody had mustaches. Very exciting thing. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.600 What did you think of Paul Skeen's trying to go 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.080 out there in the night. I thought that was really 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:03.880 great to see. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.120 Yeah, he was super efficient too, by the way, Like 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.559 I was monitoring because I had the case strikeout prop 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:12.840 on him and it was like seventy eight through seven 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.000 or something like that, and they just let him go. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.160 I love that they didn't pull the Jared Jones thing, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.680 remember where it was like it didn't matter how. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.640 Many pitches it was fifth inning and he was just 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:22.640 kind of crossed out. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.280 I kind of think it's pretty telling about how they're 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.280 going to treat Paul Skeins the rest of the way through. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.320 Coming off of an All Star game where you started 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.440 and you know the potential innings cap that could be 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.760 out there. That was a situation where it's like, hey, guys, 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.320 we got seven out of skins seventy pitches. But but boom, 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.400 let's clean our hands and let's move on. I actually 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.560 think that was very telling about how aggressive they're going 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.839 to be for the people that are really like he's 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.000 gonna get shut down like it just I don't. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:50.520 I think they're just gonna roll it out. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.120 They're gonna let him roll no matter what, especially if 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:54.680 you're gonna go to the ninth. It didn't work out 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.040 like you said. He also wasn't super strikeout efficient. He 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.520 only had eleven total whiffs, though he had had fifty 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.960 four swings on one hundred and four pitches, so over 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.480 fifty percent were swung through. There was a lot of 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.000 foul tips, there were a lot of called strikes, twenty 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.440 two called strikes. That's a wild number. So he was 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.480 efficient in that standpoint, and he is just one of 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.240 the best pitchers in baseball, there's no doubt about it. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.920 Great, it was great to see, very encouraging. Also encouraging 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.400 two guys in Chicago, Jamison ty On one run, seven 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.000 and a third inning, struck out just three. But still, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.680 Thailand's been very solid here. He could really help somebody 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.240 in a rotation. Garret Crochet, also a Chicago guy at 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.320 least for now, two earned runs over four innings, striking 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.360 out seven against the Rangers. Now, of course they lost, 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.080 because well that's what the White Sox do. But tai 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.120 on Crochet, is this the last start for the respective 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:46.840 Chicago clubs for both these guys. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.400 I think it's the last start for Crochet because you're 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.160 really risking it, for like, because twenty fourth now, so 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.080 you pitch on like the twenty ninth or thirty like, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.600 you're really risking it. I'd say that's the last one 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.280 for him. Maybe Tyne gets one more. I could see 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.400 him being last man. I think a lot of teams 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.160 are going to be hyper focused on can you get Crochet? 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.720 Can you get Flaherty. The backup plan might be a 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.520 guy like Fetti. So I'm not really one hundred percent 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.920 sure where Tywne fits in that mold, So he might 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.160 be just one of those trade deadline deals. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.960 But I do think both of these guys will get traded. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:20.800 I do believe that. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.920 But I think Crochet that I think that was his 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:23.840 last start. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.960 It was a good one here from Barry Langford or Trout. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.880 Going back to that conversation for a moment, I would 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.559 take Langford next year. Yeah, there's zero chill or hesitation 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:33.559 for me on that zero. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.840 I think we're going to probably look at Langford like 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.760 the injury is just its mounts so big, it's just 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.559 not worth really taking. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:41.760 Oh. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.960 I mean, you can argue, like anything inside the top 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.560 one hundred, taking the risk of him missing fifty games, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.600 it's just not worth doing. And I think that's like 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.840 a real argument. So guys like Langford will be inside 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:52.480 the top fifty. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.839 He hasn't played one hundred and fifty games since twenty sixteen. Yeah, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.480 one hundred and fourteen games, one hundred and forty games, 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.320 one hundred and thirty four games of the COVID year, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.200 fifty three games, so that's a pass thirty six games 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.280 in twenty twenty one, one hundred and nineteen and twenty two, 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.720 eighty two, and twenty twenty three, and so far just 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.480 twenty nine this year. I mean, it's just absurd. It's 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:15.240 like it sucks. He's a great talent, He's a bad 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.120 fantasy investment. That's it. That's the only thing. And you know, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.120 we had I remember we had a great conversation going 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.840 into the year two about the value of Mike Trout 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.920 being at low and you made a really good case 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.120 for buying, and it looked really good for a while. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.880 And I know Pianowski made a case on the other 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.120 side and one of the shows we did where he 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:33.720 was like, look, I just can't invest in the guy 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.400 anymore until he shows me he can give you a 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.120 full season, and respirted this to be the case. Scott 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:40.840 Pianowski is one of my favorite guys because he's one 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.000 of these guys who just delivers hard truths everywhere and 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.960 I love Scott for it and he's right and until 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.000 he delivers it, like I think, even that eighty to 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.760 one hundred range, you have to really think about do 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.880 I want to take Mike Trout or a number three 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.040 solid starter in my rotation. That's a conversation you can 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.440 have to have with yourself next year, And it's gonna 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.400 be a fun one to have in the offseas next 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.120 year because I think it's gonna be a lot of 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.680 varying opinions. Also good yesterday. Luis Heal won run five 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.160 innings Tuesday, but another no decision because the Mets own 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.440 the Yankees. I don't know when that's happened recently, but 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.439 they didn't. I don't think it's gonna go today. I 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.520 don't think they get swept today. More on that later 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.160 in the show. Just for fun, the Orioles and the 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:25.040 Dodgers apparently are interested in Tarik Schooble. Here's a question 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.120 for you, Welsh, which two teams is better suited in 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:29.960 your opinion to pull off that kind of deal for 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:30.840 a guy like Schooble. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.000 Yeah, we talked a little bit about school yesterday. I 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.120 think Baltimore, Well, these are the two teams. Did you say, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.720 Baltimore and the Dodgers. Those are the one in two 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:43.120 teams that are good for this. I think it's Baltimore 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.000 by a landslide though, and what they're willing. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.520 To give up. But as I said here yesterday. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.079 I don't think Terry Scooble gets traded Bubba does, so 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.680 you can break the tie here. I think this is 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.640 to me, it's not quite Brandon Ayukau is not getting 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.120 traded from the Niners strong. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:59.200 But like I just think. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.880 It's impossible to trade a player like Terry's schoobl And also, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.880 why would you trade him unless you are getting something 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.640 you can't say no to, and teams don't want to 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.720 do moves that you can't say no to, and in 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.840 an Orioles trade that you can't move away from. It's 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.600 like Jackson Holiday, Kobe Mayo or Kobe Mayo or Holiday 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.720 and then two or three other huge pieces. And if 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.320 you're not willing to do that, that's why it's not 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.240 going to happen. I think it's going to be too difficult. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.240 I say, Terry School does not get moved. But Baltimore 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:29.520 is the team that would do it. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.240 Baltimore has the goods to do it. I agree, it's 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.200 a Baltimore or bust for me, and it would be Baltimore, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.040 like give it up big pieces like a Mayo or 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:43.560 Hurst Dad, Kurs Dad or Jackson Holiday plus or whatever 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.640 it is. And if I'm the Orioles, I do that 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.040 because this is your window. You've been bad so long. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.040 You are super relevant right now. You are coming off 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.080 a year where you exceed the expectations. Now you have expectations, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.720 the fan base demands something. I think a tation with 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:05.320 scooball Burns and Grayson Rodriguez is good enough to put 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.640 you over the hump. I think that is a world series, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:08.920 winning as a championship. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.480 So do you think, but do you think the Tigers 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:12.840 will trade Trek Scooble. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.320 I think the Baltimo Orioles should. I don't think the 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.640 Tigers will get offered enough. So at the end I agree, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.400 I don't think he does go. But man, oh man, 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.800 I really want I mean, I think Baltimore should make 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.680 that move. I really do. Uh. Also fun Keston Hira 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.960 designated for assignment. So Hero was crushing a triple A 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.160 yet again. He had a buck forty eight four for 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.400 twenty seven with no homers. Unbelievable. Has there been a 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.880 more of a quad A player than Kesten Hera in 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:41.640 the last ten years? 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.600 It might be they of it too. Yeah sucks. It stinks. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:45.720 He was student, it does. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.520 He was one of the best scouted college bats in 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:49.280 his draft. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.720 He came out. He was in the AFL. I remember 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.640 me and Bill Mitchell from Baseball America. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.160 We did a dual interview with him when he won MVP. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.160 It was either in the championship game or from the AFL. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.040 Just made all this his big high front leg kick, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.280 but he made all this contact, all these things where work. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:09.400 It's so great. And then it just never never worked. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.200 It's crazy. It's crazy. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.400 How could a guy be so good at the level 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.160 right below the minor league. I can only assume it's mental. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.920 And I can't blame Milwaukee because Milwaukee gave him lots 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.080 of opportunities and they gave him a lot of birth 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.440 there and it just it's crazy to me. And then 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.640 you think, Okay, maybe enough of an organization, a different 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.680 you know, a reset. Nope, like that has not happened 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.560 for him either, and he's been a couple different places now, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.320 so just wild, all right. Rookie lookie is also depressing today, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.760 sorry folks. Christian Scott goes to the fifteen day io 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.520 with the right elbow ucl sprain. So this is not 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.520 good news for him nor for Mets fans. I hate 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.240 to be doing gloom, but here we go again. If 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.920 it's not Tommy John, I'd be shocked. And we'll see 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.680 how it goes. And this chat was blowing up everybody 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.040 talking about this today, and the Mets are in a 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.520 precarious situation here. They're right in the wildcar thick of it. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.800 I think the Mets can have their cake and eat 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.560 it too. I think they could deal a lot bring 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.480 up Baty, put Vento's at first, and keep churning over 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.960 this roster. I just wrote up, you know, the buy 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.360 sell over for Fansboros dot com, and I put Alonzo 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.119 in the cell. And I put him there because he 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.520 had one good month of June. Every other month he's 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.880 at two forty or less. The power hasn't been nearly 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.640 as prolific as it's been. He only had one month 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.920 so far where he's had a slugging percentage over five hundred, 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.000 and that was that same month of June. So to me, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.520 I'm looking at Alonzo's like he's replaceable at this point, 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.159 and he's a player that seems to be going on 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.080