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Speaker 1: it's you, the Peanuts and the Cracker Jackson. I hope
Speaker 1: you missed me yesterday because you know today. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say we're starting off with negativity, but it's
Speaker 1: a negative story. So hope you got all the positivity
Speaker 1: I possibly could yesterday with Bubba because Welsh Mike Trout
Speaker 1: left his minor league rehab game yesterday already with nie soreness.
Speaker 1: Now I know it's just knee soreness. I know it's
Speaker 1: the first day, but that was not the plan. So
Speaker 1: I understand vying on the side of caution. But oh, Welsh,
Speaker 1: here we go again. What do we do here? You've
Speaker 1: waited so long for Mike Trout and here we go.
Speaker 1: Could we possibly be having a bigger delay? Are we
Speaker 1: gonna see him back by August? Or are we waiting
Speaker 1: here till September? Or not at all.
Speaker 2: It's like the South Park bit Mike Trout and he's gone,
Speaker 2: he's gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 1: Oh you want Mike Trout, you want draft him? Okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me take him in the second round. Okay,
Speaker 1: that looks good. Oh and you got him in your
Speaker 1: starting outfitter and he's gone.
Speaker 3: And he's gone.
Speaker 1: I just drafted him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gone, he's gone. It's done. Uh yeah, No,
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna.
Speaker 2: Be a bad pushback. I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 2: anything crazy. I mean that Mike tells it's crazy. If
Speaker 2: you look at the Angels right there, just shut him
Speaker 2: down like they're not playing for anything. They're not going
Speaker 2: to trade him. There's no point. It's all just like conjecture.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, well, like we want to like have
Speaker 2: him have a couple games going into next year, like
Speaker 2: it's just for funzies. There's no reality to it. What
Speaker 2: we were presented with was Mike Trout was going to do.
Speaker 3: A really small rehab.
Speaker 2: It's going to be like three games, two games, and
Speaker 2: then it was his call and he was coming up
Speaker 2: to the majors. That's fun. This I think is going
Speaker 2: to slow that track. Obviously, there's always a possibility. It
Speaker 2: could just be like normal realistic, like, oh, okay, he's fine,
Speaker 2: he's in two days and they.
Speaker 3: Start this backup.
Speaker 2: I think they probably are gonna slow this train out
Speaker 2: a little bit so mid August instead of getting him
Speaker 2: back right at the beginning of August, end of July. Here,
Speaker 2: it's probably like a mid August. But that's just me speculating.
Speaker 2: It's just not good when a guy who has a
Speaker 2: surgically repaired knee goes out in two innings and then
Speaker 2: hurts that thing right over again. Yeah, it just you're
Speaker 2: not gonna really be hoping too much for it. And
Speaker 2: I brought this up yesterday when you were in here, Joe.
Speaker 2: What's a bummer is if you were in the Joe,
Speaker 2: he's a Piist school of get this player off your team,
Speaker 2: trade him because of the risk. You didn't even really
Speaker 2: get that window. There was no you needed the window
Speaker 2: of him like having a couple of rehab games and
Speaker 2: like that didn't happen. And this is probably more of
Speaker 2: needing to realize you need to get rid of him
Speaker 2: if you even could on your fantasy deadline.
Speaker 1: Well, it did happen because you remember that incredible tear
Speaker 1: when he was so good. We had that whole show
Speaker 1: that we dedicated to trading Mike Trout. We did get
Speaker 1: that window. Okay, ye want to trade Mike Trout badly,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that I did, because here we go again.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the three day rehab plan do
Speaker 1: you think it's because the Angels thought there were some
Speaker 1: teams kicking the tires that maybe we're gonna deal with
Speaker 1: Mike Trout. Do you think maybe he was a deadline
Speaker 1: guy kind of like under the radar.
Speaker 3: You know what, under the radar.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's definitely a possibility, But it's always been Trout's call.
Speaker 2: So it's always been if he wants to do it,
Speaker 2: every Angel's reporter because I saw there's like Foul Territory
Speaker 2: had somebody on and somebody else had another reporter. Every
Speaker 2: time the reporter's just kind of like their head goes
Speaker 2: back and they're just like, yeah, they're never gonna trade
Speaker 2: Mike Trout, So like.
Speaker 3: That's a possibility.
Speaker 2: But I do think the possibility is just this small
Speaker 2: little inkling of like, hey, if we have him back
Speaker 2: in a game healthy, we could entertain and present mister
Speaker 2: Mike Trout with those ideas, because what are.
Speaker 3: We holding on for? I can't. I can't believe.
Speaker 2: Outside of not wanting to uproot your house and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, why would you want to stay with the Angel?
Speaker 1: Like? Why? Oh? I mean, look, the problem is who
Speaker 1: wants to take the contract and that and that is
Speaker 1: a real problem. And the Angels are gonna have to
Speaker 1: eat some of that contract, whether they deal him in
Speaker 1: five days from now or whether they deal him. Can
Speaker 1: you deal someone on the IL? Are you allowed to
Speaker 1: do that? Major? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think so. I think they're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty because there talks about like how hazus
Speaker 2: Lozardo could be traded still on the IL. There was
Speaker 2: someone like five years ago that was traded on the IL.
Speaker 2: It is definitely a thing, but it has to be
Speaker 2: approved because like you know, the medicals can nix trades.
Speaker 3: It has to be like an approval.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, it doesn't bode well. I mean, look, let's
Speaker 1: say best case scenario, he takes today off, he plays Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
Speaker 1: he comes back for what Tuesday, and then maybe you
Speaker 1: could trade him on Wednesday. It's highly unlikely, but you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he would love to go back and play
Speaker 1: for the Phillies and make a run at the World Series.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Trout in the playoffs is something we
Speaker 1: haven't seen much of. What I've seen six games, three
Speaker 1: games from.
Speaker 3: Him, so interesting.
Speaker 1: What what do.
Speaker 2: You think just off the top of your head, knowing
Speaker 2: everything we've done, remember how amazing he was at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the year. This is always the story with
Speaker 2: Mike Trout. Where do you think he's going to rank
Speaker 2: next season? Because he was all over this season between
Speaker 2: like fifty and seventy that was like a pretty good
Speaker 2: mic Trout range, Like knowing with all the injuries, he
Speaker 2: did perform super super well, but this just seems like
Speaker 2: it's never gonna end.
Speaker 3: Where do you think you would maybe put him?
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna hold you outfielders or overall overall, Okay,
Speaker 1: overall I think is a tougher question. Outfielders, I think
Speaker 1: is an easy one. I mean, he can't be in
Speaker 1: the top fifteen hitters. There's no way I can't put
Speaker 1: him there. I don't think I can put him in
Speaker 1: the top twenty hitters. I'm sure I'm looking at them
Speaker 1: right now, Like, what.
Speaker 3: Was your easy outfield. You said it was easy, So
Speaker 3: what's the easy.
Speaker 1: Well, I think in terms of outfielder, that's a much
Speaker 1: easier thing to do because outfield is already kind of sparse,
Speaker 1: like you can go through that. I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: the productivity right now in MLB of the outfielders. Is
Speaker 1: he a top fifteen outfielder? Probably, I think still theoretically
Speaker 1: he's in that range, But overall he's outside the top
Speaker 1: twenty for sure. I can name twenty players that'd rather
Speaker 1: have him fantasy, just position players that I would feel
Speaker 1: better about making that investment in. Yeah, well, it includes
Speaker 1: all the Brian Reynolds. I mean how about that? I mean,
Speaker 1: would you take Mike Troud to Brian Renolds?
Speaker 3: No? See, And I think that's where you're getting more
Speaker 3: to the point you were saying.
Speaker 2: Top should take Jared Duran or would you take Mike
Speaker 2: That's funny. Jared Durant was the one I was gonna
Speaker 2: sit on here. I'm liking Jaron Duran, Duran and Reynolds whatever.
Speaker 2: Duran and Reynolds are probably like fifth round guys like that.
Speaker 2: In this year, Reynolds was like, you know, seventy five
Speaker 2: eighty overall Duran was outside the top one hundred. They're
Speaker 2: both probably like in the top fifty ish. Trout has
Speaker 2: to be after them with the injury, though we know
Speaker 2: the production was there. I think Mike Goose said seventh
Speaker 2: or eighth round that's probably.
Speaker 3: His redraft ish value at this point.
Speaker 2: It's continuously backtracking, even though he was one of the
Speaker 2: most productive players overall when he was held healthy the win.
Speaker 3: He's healthy, it is so prominent in and are never healthy.
Speaker 3: Look at that one right there by fred Dinger Rooker.
Speaker 1: I was looking at that one, Rooker or Trout, and
Speaker 1: I think that's just a matter of volume. At this point,
Speaker 1: Rooker is going to have back to back seasons where
Speaker 1: he is incredibly useful. I think it's really hard to
Speaker 1: I would still, like, in my heart, i'd probably take Trout. Still,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Rooker's gonna put up back to back
Speaker 1: thirty home run seasons right now? No, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: when's the last time Mike Trout has done that?
Speaker 3: And I'm not looking, it's probably three years ago.
Speaker 2: Back to back, oh, back to back, probably like eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna look, let's see, that's a fun
Speaker 1: game to play. When's the last time he's had back
Speaker 1: to back thirty home run seasons. I gotta have to go.
Speaker 2: It's probably going it's probably gonna surprise you if we're
Speaker 2: being honest.
Speaker 1: Here, really you think so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have I have the numbers.
Speaker 1: Oh, back to back eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 3: I'm so smart, am I Just that's what I said.
Speaker 1: Five years ago.
Speaker 3: Long time is a long time ago, and they got.
Speaker 1: Who you were five years ago thirty three.
Speaker 2: We neither one of us worked at Fantasy Pros. I
Speaker 2: think we were doing though the Fantasy Black Book podcast.
Speaker 1: I think we were five years ago. Pandemic. There was
Speaker 1: one at toilet Paper. It was. It was a good
Speaker 1: time to be a yeah, all right. Speaking of depressing outfielders,
Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez goes to the ten day Ail with the
Speaker 1: wretched dreaded high ankle spray for a while. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: They throw that high ankle on there. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, more like weeks, not days. So John Didniclesse
Speaker 1: gets brought up from Triple A. We'll keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that. But returning was Jordan Montgomery yesterday, five innings,
Speaker 1: one run ball that was good against the Royals. Paul
Speaker 1: Skens going into the night didning. How fun was that?
Speaker 1: I mean it ended up not working out the ninth,
Speaker 1: but still eight strikeouts, eight and a third against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: It was great to see a guy like Skiings go
Speaker 1: out there. The ballpark was fired up. I think it
Speaker 1: was like the Dogs at the Park night too, and
Speaker 1: the dogs had mustaches. Everybody had mustaches. Very exciting thing.
Speaker 1: What did you think of Paul Skeen's trying to go
Speaker 1: out there in the night. I thought that was really
Speaker 1: great to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was super efficient too, by the way, Like
Speaker 2: I was monitoring because I had the case strikeout prop
Speaker 2: on him and it was like seventy eight through seven
Speaker 2: or something like that, and they just let him go.
Speaker 2: I love that they didn't pull the Jared Jones thing,
Speaker 2: remember where it was like it didn't matter how.
Speaker 3: Many pitches it was fifth inning and he was just
Speaker 3: kind of crossed out.
Speaker 2: I kind of think it's pretty telling about how they're
Speaker 2: going to treat Paul Skeins the rest of the way through.
Speaker 2: Coming off of an All Star game where you started
Speaker 2: and you know the potential innings cap that could be
Speaker 2: out there. That was a situation where it's like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: we got seven out of skins seventy pitches. But but boom,
Speaker 2: let's clean our hands and let's move on. I actually
Speaker 2: think that was very telling about how aggressive they're going
Speaker 2: to be for the people that are really like he's
Speaker 2: gonna get shut down like it just I don't.
Speaker 3: I think they're just gonna roll it out.
Speaker 2: They're gonna let him roll no matter what, especially if
Speaker 2: you're gonna go to the ninth. It didn't work out
Speaker 2: like you said. He also wasn't super strikeout efficient. He
Speaker 2: only had eleven total whiffs, though he had had fifty
Speaker 2: four swings on one hundred and four pitches, so over
Speaker 2: fifty percent were swung through. There was a lot of
Speaker 2: foul tips, there were a lot of called strikes, twenty
Speaker 2: two called strikes. That's a wild number. So he was
Speaker 2: efficient in that standpoint, and he is just one of
Speaker 2: the best pitchers in baseball, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Great, it was great to see, very encouraging. Also encouraging
Speaker 1: two guys in Chicago, Jamison ty On one run, seven
Speaker 1: and a third inning, struck out just three. But still,
Speaker 1: Thailand's been very solid here. He could really help somebody
Speaker 1: in a rotation. Garret Crochet, also a Chicago guy at
Speaker 1: least for now, two earned runs over four innings, striking
Speaker 1: out seven against the Rangers. Now, of course they lost,
Speaker 1: because well that's what the White Sox do. But tai
Speaker 1: on Crochet, is this the last start for the respective
Speaker 1: Chicago clubs for both these guys.
Speaker 2: I think it's the last start for Crochet because you're
Speaker 2: really risking it, for like, because twenty fourth now, so
Speaker 2: you pitch on like the twenty ninth or thirty like,
Speaker 2: you're really risking it. I'd say that's the last one
Speaker 2: for him. Maybe Tyne gets one more. I could see
Speaker 2: him being last man. I think a lot of teams
Speaker 2: are going to be hyper focused on can you get Crochet?
Speaker 2: Can you get Flaherty. The backup plan might be a
Speaker 2: guy like Fetti. So I'm not really one hundred percent
Speaker 2: sure where Tywne fits in that mold, So he might
Speaker 2: be just one of those trade deadline deals.
Speaker 3: But I do think both of these guys will get traded.
Speaker 3: I do believe that.
Speaker 2: But I think Crochet that I think that was his
Speaker 2: last start.
Speaker 1: It was a good one here from Barry Langford or Trout.
Speaker 1: Going back to that conversation for a moment, I would
Speaker 1: take Langford next year. Yeah, there's zero chill or hesitation
Speaker 1: for me on that zero.
Speaker 2: I think we're going to probably look at Langford like
Speaker 2: the injury is just its mounts so big, it's just
Speaker 2: not worth really taking.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can argue, like anything inside the top
Speaker 2: one hundred, taking the risk of him missing fifty games,
Speaker 2: it's just not worth doing. And I think that's like
Speaker 2: a real argument. So guys like Langford will be inside
Speaker 2: the top fifty.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played one hundred and fifty games since twenty sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen games, one hundred and forty games,
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four games of the COVID year,
Speaker 1: fifty three games, so that's a pass thirty six games
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, one hundred and nineteen and twenty two,
Speaker 1: eighty two, and twenty twenty three, and so far just
Speaker 1: twenty nine this year. I mean, it's just absurd. It's
Speaker 1: like it sucks. He's a great talent, He's a bad
Speaker 1: fantasy investment. That's it. That's the only thing. And you know,
Speaker 1: we had I remember we had a great conversation going
Speaker 1: into the year two about the value of Mike Trout
Speaker 1: being at low and you made a really good case
Speaker 1: for buying, and it looked really good for a while.
Speaker 1: And I know Pianowski made a case on the other
Speaker 1: side and one of the shows we did where he
Speaker 1: was like, look, I just can't invest in the guy
Speaker 1: anymore until he shows me he can give you a
Speaker 1: full season, and respirted this to be the case. Scott
Speaker 1: Pianowski is one of my favorite guys because he's one
Speaker 1: of these guys who just delivers hard truths everywhere and
Speaker 1: I love Scott for it and he's right and until
Speaker 1: he delivers it, like I think, even that eighty to
Speaker 1: one hundred range, you have to really think about do
Speaker 1: I want to take Mike Trout or a number three
Speaker 1: solid starter in my rotation. That's a conversation you can
Speaker 1: have to have with yourself next year, And it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a fun one to have in the offseas next
Speaker 1: year because I think it's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: varying opinions. Also good yesterday. Luis Heal won run five
Speaker 1: innings Tuesday, but another no decision because the Mets own
Speaker 1: the Yankees. I don't know when that's happened recently, but
Speaker 1: they didn't. I don't think it's gonna go today. I
Speaker 1: don't think they get swept today. More on that later
Speaker 1: in the show. Just for fun, the Orioles and the
Speaker 1: Dodgers apparently are interested in Tarik Schooble. Here's a question
Speaker 1: for you, Welsh, which two teams is better suited in
Speaker 1: your opinion to pull off that kind of deal for
Speaker 1: a guy like Schooble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked a little bit about school yesterday. I
Speaker 2: think Baltimore, Well, these are the two teams. Did you say,
Speaker 2: Baltimore and the Dodgers. Those are the one in two
Speaker 2: teams that are good for this. I think it's Baltimore
Speaker 2: by a landslide though, and what they're willing.
Speaker 3: To give up. But as I said here yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't think Terry Scooble gets traded Bubba does, so
Speaker 2: you can break the tie here. I think this is
Speaker 2: to me, it's not quite Brandon Ayukau is not getting
Speaker 2: traded from the Niners strong.
Speaker 3: But like I just think.
Speaker 2: It's impossible to trade a player like Terry's schoobl And also,
Speaker 2: why would you trade him unless you are getting something
Speaker 2: you can't say no to, and teams don't want to
Speaker 2: do moves that you can't say no to, and in
Speaker 2: an Orioles trade that you can't move away from. It's
Speaker 2: like Jackson Holiday, Kobe Mayo or Kobe Mayo or Holiday
Speaker 2: and then two or three other huge pieces. And if
Speaker 2: you're not willing to do that, that's why it's not
Speaker 2: going to happen. I think it's going to be too difficult.
Speaker 2: I say, Terry School does not get moved. But Baltimore
Speaker 2: is the team that would do it.
Speaker 1: Baltimore has the goods to do it. I agree, it's
Speaker 1: a Baltimore or bust for me, and it would be Baltimore,
Speaker 1: like give it up big pieces like a Mayo or
Speaker 1: Hurst Dad, Kurs Dad or Jackson Holiday plus or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. And if I'm the Orioles, I do that
Speaker 1: because this is your window. You've been bad so long.
Speaker 1: You are super relevant right now. You are coming off
Speaker 1: a year where you exceed the expectations. Now you have expectations,
Speaker 1: the fan base demands something. I think a tation with
Speaker 1: scooball Burns and Grayson Rodriguez is good enough to put
Speaker 1: you over the hump. I think that is a world series,
Speaker 1: winning as a championship.
Speaker 2: So do you think, but do you think the Tigers
Speaker 2: will trade Trek Scooble.
Speaker 1: I think the Baltimo Orioles should. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Tigers will get offered enough. So at the end I agree,
Speaker 1: I don't think he does go. But man, oh man,
Speaker 1: I really want I mean, I think Baltimore should make
Speaker 1: that move. I really do. Uh. Also fun Keston Hira
Speaker 1: designated for assignment. So Hero was crushing a triple A
Speaker 1: yet again. He had a buck forty eight four for
Speaker 1: twenty seven with no homers. Unbelievable. Has there been a
Speaker 1: more of a quad A player than Kesten Hera in
Speaker 1: the last ten years?
Speaker 3: It might be they of it too. Yeah sucks. It stinks.
Speaker 1: He was student, it does.
Speaker 3: He was one of the best scouted college bats in
Speaker 3: his draft.
Speaker 2: He came out. He was in the AFL. I remember
Speaker 2: me and Bill Mitchell from Baseball America.
Speaker 3: We did a dual interview with him when he won MVP.
Speaker 3: It was either in the championship game or from the AFL.
Speaker 2: Just made all this his big high front leg kick,
Speaker 2: but he made all this contact, all these things where work.
Speaker 3: It's so great. And then it just never never worked.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: How could a guy be so good at the level
Speaker 1: right below the minor league. I can only assume it's mental.
Speaker 1: And I can't blame Milwaukee because Milwaukee gave him lots
Speaker 1: of opportunities and they gave him a lot of birth
Speaker 1: there and it just it's crazy to me. And then
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, maybe enough of an organization, a different
Speaker 1: you know, a reset. Nope, like that has not happened
Speaker 1: for him either, and he's been a couple different places now,
Speaker 1: so just wild, all right. Rookie lookie is also depressing today,
Speaker 1: sorry folks. Christian Scott goes to the fifteen day io
Speaker 1: with the right elbow ucl sprain. So this is not
Speaker 1: good news for him nor for Mets fans. I hate
Speaker 1: to be doing gloom, but here we go again. If
Speaker 1: it's not Tommy John, I'd be shocked. And we'll see
Speaker 1: how it goes. And this chat was blowing up everybody
Speaker 1: talking about this today, and the Mets are in a
Speaker 1: precarious situation here. They're right in the wildcar thick of it.
Speaker 1: I think the Mets can have their cake and eat
Speaker 1: it too. I think they could deal a lot bring
Speaker 1: up Baty, put Vento's at first, and keep churning over
Speaker 1: this roster. I just wrote up, you know, the buy
Speaker 1: sell over for Fansboros dot com, and I put Alonzo
Speaker 1: in the cell. And I put him there because he
Speaker 1: had one good month of June. Every other month he's
Speaker 1: at two forty or less. The power hasn't been nearly
Speaker 1: as prolific as it's been. He only had one month
Speaker 1: so far where he's had a slugging percentage over five hundred,
Speaker 1: and that was that same month of June. So to me,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Alonzo's like he's replaceable at this point,
Speaker 1: and he's a player that seems to be going on
Speaker 1: a negative trajectory the last couple of years. I think
Speaker 1: the Mets, I know it's gonna be unpopular, but if
Speaker 1: you don't think you're going to invest in him, then
Speaker 1: don't keep him around for this quote unquote run because
Speaker 1: it's kind of nonsense and phony. You're not really a contender.
Speaker 1: You're kind of a good story. Still, trade Alonso, move
Speaker 1: Vientos to first, bring Baty up again, who's been hitting,
Speaker 1: and let the kids play. See if you can get
Speaker 1: some real big productivity here. I'm sure the Mariners are
Speaker 1: desperate for a bat like Alonzo right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I completely agree, But I think the problem
Speaker 2: is these teams coming to terms with where they are
Speaker 2: and who they are. I think Peter Alonzo three months
Speaker 2: ago was like, this will be the number one guy
Speaker 2: at the deadline traded, but now everyone's like just not sure,
Speaker 2: Like where are the Mets at.
Speaker 3: I think there are teams.
Speaker 2: That can make moves that doesn't completely decimate still the
Speaker 2: opportunity while bettering their team for the future, because I'm
Speaker 2: not really sure Peter Alonzo actually makes this team exponentially.
Speaker 3: Better right now.
Speaker 2: So if you can put Vienta like we can someone
Speaker 2: in the chatterre doing it, we can discuss if Brett
Speaker 2: Baty is like good or not. But if you can
Speaker 2: go and trade Alonzo and you can get a couple
Speaker 2: like near major league ready prospects.
Speaker 3: You know, then you got to start looking.
Speaker 2: They've got Drew Gilbert and the Miners, who's had an
Speaker 2: injury plague season, Luisan Helakunya, Ryan Clifford, They've made tons
Speaker 2: of moves of Vento's has worked out. They've got Blake Tidwell,
Speaker 2: they've got Sprout in the as far as rotation help,
Speaker 2: they've got a lot.
Speaker 1: Of signe Jackie Bradley Junior.
Speaker 3: There's a game, but they've.
Speaker 2: Got a lot of good like young minor league guys
Speaker 2: that Yeah, I think it would make sense, but these
Speaker 2: teams coming to terms with who they are with like
Speaker 2: six days to go at the deadline is the key,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if there's anybody that's beaten down
Speaker 2: the door. Hell, you got to look at the Mariners.
Speaker 2: Mariners got to look in the mirror right now after
Speaker 2: losing Julio with a high ankle spring. Yes, they're in it,
Speaker 2: but like, do they go and mortgage the future with
Speaker 2: Julio's health in question? Because one bat is not going
Speaker 2: to fix their problem though.
Speaker 1: No, but that's a bat that you should trade for
Speaker 1: see if he likes the culture and he's a good fit,
Speaker 1: and then sign him to a long term deal. Alonzo
Speaker 1: makes more sense long term for the Mariners in the
Speaker 1: next two to three years than for the Mets. He
Speaker 1: just does in my opinion, like he's just a better
Speaker 1: fit for what they need and they meet a guy
Speaker 1: to protect their star. The Mets need a star and
Speaker 1: they don't have one right now, So they're going in
Speaker 1: a whole different trajectory. They're still rebuilding. By the way,
Speaker 1: Brett Bady thirty five games is getting sent down two
Speaker 1: eighty nine, three seventy eight, five eighty five A, nine
Speaker 1: to sixty three ops, eleven homers, eleven eleven homers and
Speaker 1: thirty five games, thirty one RBI. Whether you believe in
Speaker 1: Brett Bay or not, he has earned another opportunity to
Speaker 1: try to be the everyday three.
Speaker 2: It'd be a nice fantasy boon too, because that would
Speaker 2: be another corner infielder if he got every day at bats,
Speaker 2: if you could throw him back out, if he were
Speaker 2: to get traded, that would be someone you'd have to
Speaker 2: speculate on in deeper leagues for sure.
Speaker 1: Agreed all right, three up and three down. Tyler O'Neil
Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty two homers yesterday could tell Marte two
Speaker 1: for three with a two run bomb, and Zach Wheeler
Speaker 1: seven scoreless innings, seven k's a good day for him
Speaker 1: against the Twinkies. A bad day for Tyler Bloch, who
Speaker 1: gave up six six runs and two and a third innings.
Speaker 1: Jake Bloss he was bad too, five earned five innings,
Speaker 1: Black and blah black bloss bloss black, and of course
Speaker 1: the White Sox. He made a collective I haven't done
Speaker 1: this all year. A team down. Nine straight losses for
Speaker 1: the White Sox. Nine things are not good. Also injury news,
Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker apparently progressing to outfield work. Still a little tender,
Speaker 1: his bones are still a little tender. Gonna drink some
Speaker 1: more milk, Gotta do. Rockies activated Chris Brian from the
Speaker 1: I L There you goes. We'll see how along that last.
Speaker 1: Keaton Wynn was shut down because of new soreness in
Speaker 1: that elbow. Andrew Painter apparently is progressing to throwing out
Speaker 1: the bullpen off the flat mounts, so we'll see how
Speaker 1: that goes. Jarree Mateo was removed Tuesday with a left
Speaker 1: elbow injury, which is interesting because again playing time with
Speaker 1: the Orioles infield. Well, so that's always an interesting piece, right.
Speaker 2: I was told I should not look at that injury
Speaker 2: by Manteo. By the way, it was warned to me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that like that because I don't do Injuri as well,
Speaker 2: like I don't like like visual bad ones. And I
Speaker 2: saw the tweets and it was like, hey, don't look
Speaker 2: at this injury by Mateo's arms shouldn't go that direction.
Speaker 3: So I haven't looked at it. I won't look at it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Anthony calling me to the mat saying, Joe,
Speaker 1: the Mets have Lindor. He's a star. Lol. I know
Speaker 1: he's doing it sarcastically. But again, they have the they
Speaker 1: don't have the Acunyas, they don't have the old Tani's,
Speaker 1: they don't have a Soda or a Judge. The Yankees
Speaker 1: have two of those guys, which is why they are
Speaker 1: where the Yankees are. And if you're gonna be the Mets, yeah,
Speaker 1: going into next year, if you go sign and throw
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of money at one Sodo, he'll come.
Speaker 1: He'll go to the highest bidder, make no mistake about
Speaker 1: it. It doesn't matter Yankees, it doesn't matter. He's a Boris guy.
Speaker 1: It's just about one thing. It's about money. So Soda
Speaker 1: will go wherever. So if Uncle Stevie wants to pay him,
Speaker 1: he'll go there. And then Lindora is a nice player
Speaker 1: around him. Alonso would be another nice player around him.
Speaker 1: But unless you have a star, it is very difficult
Speaker 1: major League Baseball. The Oriols are where the Oriels are
Speaker 1: because Gunnar Henderson is a star okay period, Starling Marte.
Speaker 1: He's progressing as well to running on the field yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. And Max Schurzer is gonna start Thursdays despite
Speaker 1: the arm fatigue. Hold your breath. Texas Rangers. Jose Miranda's
Speaker 1: gonna begin his minor league rehab assignment on Wednesday. I
Speaker 1: still think Sure's are and the Dodgers. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a weird reuniting there. I'm telling you, I
Speaker 1: feel it if my bones. Welsh, we'll see Jared Jones
Speaker 1: threw from flat ground on Tuesday, so that's exciting. Also,
Speaker 1: j Domingaz took live VP on Monday, and Code I
Speaker 1: Senga will make his debut on Friday against the Braves.
Speaker 1: Code I Senga back on Friday, Welsh, how excited are
Speaker 1: you for that? Star?
Speaker 2: Very excited for Code I Senga. Very excited for strikeouts.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm here for. I'm here for the Senga strikeouts.
Speaker 2: I will put him out there. The Braves are swinging
Speaker 2: and a whiffing. They're getting beat up as we speak.
Speaker 2: Right now, Reds are up four to nothing, so it's
Speaker 2: a great time to wack cong braves.
Speaker 1: No Albi's they're missing some guys.
Speaker 2: Go they're missing matt Olsen. Nope, but Harton, where the
Speaker 2: hell is he?
Speaker 1: While he's there? He's just not producing. He's been to disappointment.
Speaker 1: You know. I thought last year was the coming out
Speaker 1: party for matt Olsen to be like just a rock star.
Speaker 1: It's not going well the follow up. But Austin Riley's
Speaker 1: made a nice turnaround, so that's good. By the way.
Speaker 1: You know what else is exciting? Welsh? What wagering?
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Speaker 1: right for the jugular today with the New York Yankees
Speaker 1: staying off embarrassment of getting swept in their ballpark. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So give me the Yankees on the
Speaker 1: run line minus one and a half at plus one
Speaker 1: twenty five with Garrett Cole on the mount against Sean Manaia.
Speaker 1: Give me Aaron Judge, who walked what four times yesterday?
Speaker 1: It was i'mbelieving you just walked all day. Just walk,
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Give me RBI total over point five plus
Speaker 1: one fourteen for Aaron Judge, and give me the over
Speaker 1: strikeouts for Garrett Cole against the New York Mets, a
Speaker 1: trifecta in that game six and a half k is.
Speaker 1: Give me the over at minus one oh five. That's
Speaker 1: a good number on all three of those bets. One game.
Speaker 1: You could sit back and watch it all unfold, or
Speaker 1: you can even put it together in some places as
Speaker 1: a parlay in the game Parlay edition, Welsh, what do
Speaker 1: you have on this glorious Wednesday in the summer.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I'd like to see that
Speaker 2: same game parlay is probably like seven to one. Maybe
Speaker 2: play them all and just put like you get.
Speaker 1: Them all in there. I'm gonna try and see if.
Speaker 2: You probably the RBI is going to be probably the
Speaker 2: tricky one that put in the same game parlay.
Speaker 3: But if you can, I think, hell, while.
Speaker 1: You talking amongst yourselves, I'll see if i can juice
Speaker 1: something here with something for Judge and the rest of
Speaker 1: it into one thing.
Speaker 2: So I'm going with the Boston Red Sox first five
Speaker 2: minus point five, so up by a run through the
Speaker 2: first five innings up against Colorado Pavetta's on the mound.
Speaker 2: Obviously that lineup has been great. Quantrill has been their
Speaker 2: best pitcher in Colorado. But I like the matchup for
Speaker 2: Boston minus won twenty for them to be up by
Speaker 2: a run through the first five. Going with a rookie,
Speaker 2: little rookie lookie Chase McDermott with the Orioles is making
Speaker 2: his debut. He had been essentially like the leader in
Speaker 2: strikeouts and the miners because he had been there for
Speaker 2: some time. But really great strikeout numbers in Triple A.
Speaker 2: It's at only four and a half and it's plus money.
Speaker 3: These rookies can be risky.
Speaker 2: It can be risky business throwing you know, a guy
Speaker 2: that you don't know. If they could go seventy five
Speaker 2: or eighty, I would expect they want him to eat
Speaker 2: some innings in this one, and it's just a pretty
Speaker 2: good matchup. So give me McDermott plus money or even
Speaker 2: money at four and a half and then I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just take Philly money line minus one thirty with Aaron
Speaker 2: Nola on the mound. Philly has got to start picking
Speaker 2: up some games. I feel like I have been picking
Speaker 2: on the Azer, picking Philly a whole lot to get
Speaker 2: these wins, and they just keep dropping them. An Aaron
Speaker 2: Nola game, get them right. So Philly full game, money line,
Speaker 2: Boston up by a run through the first five, and
Speaker 2: Chase McDermott on the strikeouts today after what was a pretty.
Speaker 3: Disappointing day yesterday. It was not that he would for me.
Speaker 3: All right, did you find out what the same game?
Speaker 1: But did here you go Yankees run line minus one
Speaker 1: and a half, Cole over on the strikeouts six and
Speaker 1: a half and just Judge to get a hit, which
Speaker 1: is minus two hundred juice plus three sixty three. There
Speaker 1: you go better than three to one on that not
Speaker 1: bad at all, that's great. So a dominant Garrett Cole
Speaker 1: victory and a hit for Aaron Judge gets you more
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Speaker 1: Start betting smarter, not harder. Welsh, Look who's here on
Speaker 1: the home run board? Oh my god, it's a penguin.
Speaker 1: At twenty seven homers, I am hanging on by a
Speaker 1: thread with others in quotes at twenty six, still el
Speaker 1: scale at the top of thirty five. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna win this year. So I'm not gonna light the
Speaker 1: Vlad Guerrero bat on fire most likely, although you never
Speaker 1: know I could ever run in me. You know, my
Speaker 1: perpetuity guys have been pretty good some of those years.
Speaker 1: But Welsh, where are you going for your home run
Speaker 1: call today?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to Gunner. Gunner has not done
Speaker 2: me right. We were actually were trying to figure out
Speaker 2: I think it was yesterday Fred Dinger popped in and said,
Speaker 2: of my twenty two homers, Gunner Henderson has accounted.
Speaker 3: For six of them.
Speaker 1: Six.
Speaker 2: You know, so almost thirty percent of my homers have
Speaker 2: been Gunner so far this year. And it's gonna take
Speaker 2: a while for me to get on the board. I
Speaker 2: love the matchup today. I've been kind of behind. I
Speaker 2: had Tyler O'Neal the other day. He hits two yesterday. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Gunner. I'm gonna go with Gunner
Speaker 2: to try to get me back on the board.
Speaker 1: Anthony's got a question here before I get to my
Speaker 1: home run, called well, anything on Junior Camonaro production et.
Speaker 3: A Yeah, I made a ya. Anthony asked this question
Speaker 3: a lot in the chat, but it's actually a really
Speaker 3: good question.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to get it on here, because
Speaker 1: he asked it like three.
Speaker 3: Times and and I answered, and he had a follow
Speaker 3: up question to it. So here's the deal.
Speaker 2: The logic to it is their Rays are putting out
Speaker 2: esock parades, and if they trade esock parades, they could
Speaker 2: bring up Cam and Arrow.
Speaker 3: I buy that. I totally buy that. So the best.
Speaker 2: Case scenario would be within the next week. But it's
Speaker 2: the Rays, and I don't know if they're playing for
Speaker 2: best case scenarios. So I had responded saying mid August, listen,
Speaker 2: if you want to go into this is a great time.
Speaker 2: If he's sitting on on the wire to go and
Speaker 2: pick and hold him up. But every step of the way,
Speaker 2: every step of the way with Junior Camenaro, it's been
Speaker 2: wrong and the Rays want to hold guys back for
Speaker 2: more control. I would ask you, is there a possibility
Speaker 2: that the Rays could hold Junior Cameraro back all the
Speaker 2: way through September so he doesn't exhaust his eligibility for
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 3: Yes, they could, because it's the Ray.
Speaker 2: They could logic though, in the next week, if Parades
Speaker 2: goes away, Junior's back, He's activated triple A.
Speaker 3: He's been hitting homers.
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to have bad will on
Speaker 2: a player and he keep him down for too long.
Speaker 2: So I do think he's up in August, but I
Speaker 2: would say it's August first, between and August fifteenth. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's a guarantee. If Parades gets traded, they
Speaker 2: just immediately go and throw uh Junior Camerero back up
Speaker 2: in the majors. I just don't think that is a
Speaker 2: one hundred percent guarantee. So you know, like take you
Speaker 2: got to take your shots.
Speaker 3: I get it, but I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 3: pay off.
Speaker 1: They're four and a half out of the Wildcard. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of has to do with how they
Speaker 1: go this weekend. I think a lot they.
Speaker 2: Could look at it that if this is one of
Speaker 2: those kind of like that met situation where like, you're competing,
Speaker 2: you don't want to sell off all these pieces while
Speaker 2: you're competing, not that you know, like they're not playing for.
Speaker 1: Them, but they're not pressed to bring up the start
Speaker 1: o'clock and the Rays are notoriously the worst.
Speaker 2: But what you could do is you could trade parades
Speaker 2: and then you immediately come back in with junior Cameron
Speaker 2: Arrow and say, hey, we're still competing. But this is
Speaker 2: like talking This is like talking about like, let's say
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, where they care about their fan base. I
Speaker 2: don't think they Rais really care about their.
Speaker 1: Fa The fan base is basically what like Jason Kalette.
Speaker 3: I know that's but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't think like a Cardinals team or
Speaker 2: something like that, you know they would trade away a
Speaker 2: piece and say, hey we got this awesome guy coming
Speaker 2: back up.
Speaker 3: I don't even raise really care about any of that,
Speaker 3: but you do.
Speaker 2: Have the justification, so it could happen in the next
Speaker 2: week it's totally possible. Just like we were talking about
Speaker 2: this at the beginning of the.
Speaker 1: Year and Lee, yeah, I did say he was going
Speaker 1: to be up by Easter, and that was before he
Speaker 1: got the quad injury. The quad injury completely derailed everything,
Speaker 1: and then the second injury just completely blew it up.
Speaker 1: And look, I think had he look, he was crushing
Speaker 1: balls in April, crushing balls, there was no reason to
Speaker 1: keep him down, and he should have been up by
Speaker 1: you know, Memorial Day at the latest. And unfortunately this
Speaker 1: is what happens. Sometimes it sucks. I think had he
Speaker 1: been healthy, he would have been up and he would
Speaker 1: have been a productive player. And I still stand by that.
Speaker 1: I Thinkkevi Man Arrow is a very special talent. So
Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll hope to have him next year. At
Speaker 1: some point is more of an everyday source, and I
Speaker 1: think going into next year you have no choice. If
Speaker 1: you're the Raise, for sure you need to have that.
Speaker 1: Rays are kind of a weird changing over in progress,
Speaker 1: Like they are the best at retooling of any team
Speaker 1: that I've seen in Major League Baseball on a long time.
Speaker 1: They just retool, retool, retool, and they're always in it.
Speaker 1: So that's who the Rays are.
Speaker 2: I will say at the end of the day, And
Speaker 2: if you were being really sneaky about it.
Speaker 1: I didn't say Witch Easter.
Speaker 2: Could be next, but like thanks wank, just to end
Speaker 2: it out a really like this is a very frugal organization.
Speaker 2: A frugal organization would think about if we had him
Speaker 2: still prospect eligible to start next year break camp, guess
Speaker 2: what you'd be eligible for the extra pit compensation. And
Speaker 2: right now, who are the al guys that are really
Speaker 2: up for that? If you I mean, we've had so
Speaker 2: many of the players, James, I mean not that Jimsood
Speaker 2: is al it's NL, but like the top prospects are
Speaker 2: already kind of coming up and losing eligibility. You would
Speaker 2: be putting yourself in a prime position to maybe get
Speaker 2: one of those big compensation first round picks like the
Speaker 2: Diamondbacks had had, like the Orioles had had. But I'm
Speaker 2: not sure that they do that, and probably could call
Speaker 2: up tomorrow as a matter of.
Speaker 1: Fact, probably probably, you never know the way things go.
Speaker 1: By the way, Aaron Judge my home run call for tonight.
Speaker 1: You're welcome everybody that'll do it for us. But the
Speaker 1: story of the game goes on. For the Welsh, I'm
Speaker 1: Joey P. We'll see you next time. Kids. Enjoy your baseball.
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