WEBVTT - VPN Advice & Vinyl Records 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:06.080 Social media's impact on teams under scrutiny, Costco recalls a 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.880 popular phone charger. New tech lets anyone appear on a 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:16.040 Times Square billboard, including me plus your tech questions answered. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:17.120 What's going on? 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.960 I'm Rich dmiro and this is Rich on Tech. This 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.280 is the show where I talk about the tech stuff 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.639 I think you should know about. It's also the place 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.360 where I answer your questions about technology. I believe that 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.680 tech should be interesting, useful and fun. Let's open up 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.280 those phone lines at triple eight rich one oh one. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.080 That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:45.520 zero one. Once again, triple eight rich one oh one 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:50.120 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.320 Give me a call. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.360 If you have a question about technology. Email is also open. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:00.440 Just go to rich on tech dot tv and hit contact. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.360 By the way, if you want to link to anything 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.679 I mentioned on today's show, just go to the website 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.800 rich on tech dot tv. Hit the light bulb right 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.000 at the top of the screen that will bring you 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:15.839 to links in real time. Guests this week Ryan McLoud, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.600 creator of the Apple Design Award winning game black Box. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.600 Perhaps you perhaps you've played it on your iPhone and 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.039 we've got Derek Ting, co founder and CEO of Text. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.120 Now he's gonna explain how you can get free calls, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:34.120 free messaging, and even free essential data on your smartphone. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.480 Plus I've got a special guest. Well, in case you 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.600 can't notice, I am literally broadcasting live from my parents' 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.720 basement in New Jersey. This has been a lifelong dream 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.040 of mine and here we are. Well, I'm actually kind 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.960 of visiting home and this was the best place. And 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.200 I got to say, my dad really set this studio up. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.720 He had so much fun setting up all the cables 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.520 and running them throughout the house and taping them down. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.040 He thought he was like a real gaffer. So if 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.240 the show sounds good, if it works good, it is 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:10.160 all thanks to him and the quick thinking of a 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.840 door dash delivery. Now, my dad lives in the middle 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.240 of nowhere in New Jersey, and we needed this cable 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.800 that was like one hundred feet long, an Ethernet cable 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.160 to run for the show. And I said, let me 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.119 just see if DoorDash can bring this from Best Buy 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.560 And sure enough, I'm not kidding. By the time I 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.160 ordered it, it was at his door within forty five minutes. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.840 So once again technology comes through. It is just an 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:36.160 incredible way to kind of It's just changed our lives 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.280 in so many ways, even in the middle of nowhere. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.119 So thanks, not thanks to them, because I did pay 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.360 for it, but I can't believe how well that worked now. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.040 You know, whenever I go home, I become the unofficial 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.160 tech support for my family, as I'm sure some of 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.160 you do for yours, And whenever I'm home, the challenges 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.480 of technology are immediately clear to me. The stuff that 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.800 you are up against on a daily basis becomes so 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.280 clear to me that it just it immediately like resets 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.880 my entire life. Just when I think I've made progress 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.400 on this show, on my segment on KTLA for thirteen 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.160 years now and running, it's all reset because I see 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.840 that the work has just started. The dark patterns on 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.360 the smartphones of these apps that try to get you 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.359 to download stuff or to try to subscribe to things, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.720 or the stuff that's just not clear to anyone becomes 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.400 very clear to me. So, for instance, I'm at a 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.040 family gathering, I take a bunch of pictures on my phone, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.640 which happens to be an Android right now, and my sister, 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.119 who has an iPhone, says, hey, can you share those 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.600 with me? And that is sort of the ultimate, like, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.800 oh no, how am I going to do this? That 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.080 is a moment that is make or break in the 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.920 tech world right now, How are you gonna share pictures 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.240 from an iPhone to an Android or an Android to 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.080 an iPhone. Now, obviously the iPhone person does not want 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.120 to download any extra apps. They don't want to do 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.240 anything differently than what they typically do. And so I said, okay, 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.720 let me try this quick share scan this QR code 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.400 on my phone and it will give you a link 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.960 to all these pictures. Oh, that didn't work because the 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.240 pictures were ninety megabytes worth and I had limited connectivity. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.000 They were not uploading fast enough, so that didn't work. Okay, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.640 let me try Google Photos. Use Google Photos, right, She 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.480 says yes, And I say, okay, I just sent them 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:20.600 to you through Google Photos. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:22.680 She opens up the photos app on her phone. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.320 I said, that's not Google Photos, that's the that's Apple's 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:26.080 Photos app. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.800 Let me open up Google Photos. I open up Google Photos, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:29.160 which she. 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.440 Did have on our phone, and sure enough, it had 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.279 never been opened on her new iPhone ever. So it 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.920 started going through the motions of signing up and you know, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.159 getting everything up to speed. I said, okay, that's not 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.320 gonna work either. So I don't know how I ended 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.279 up sending them to her. I think I just used telegram. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.680 That was, you know, my first entree to you know, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.160 these tech issues that happened logging onto guest Wi Fi. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.159 So of course everyone is heightened about security at this point. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.360 So you go to someone's house. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.360 Some people may be fine about sharing their home Wi 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.920 Fi with you. Others may be a little bit more 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.840 hesitant to share that password, and for good reason, your 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.520 device is getting onto their home network, which potentially could 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.279 do bad things. So my advice number one, I do 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.000 think you should have a guest network setup. So if 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.480 you haven't set up a guest network on your Wi 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.000 Fi router, please do that. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.240 It'll make it much easier. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.600 It'll make it much less awkward for when people want 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.400 to join your Wi Fi because you can give out 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.680 that password no problem. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.159 But here's what I recommend number one. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.880 Don't assume everyone has an iPhone in this world, so 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.360 everyone's like, oh, just open up to the password thing 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.520 and I'll share it through my iPhone. Not everyone can 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.200 do that, especially if you're on iPhone and Android, so 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.000 have a QR code that they can scan. So all 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.520 you have to do is go to a website like 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.200 QR dash Code dash generator dot com and they can 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.599 generate a Wi Fi QR code for you. You can print 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.040 out that QR code. It not only includes the password 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.120 to your Wi Fi, but it's also a scannable QR 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.960 code that phones when they see that QR code. No, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.360 I can just join this one without a lot of work. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.760 It's very easy. So if you don't have a QR 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.320 code that you have printed in your house and posted 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.600 on your fridge, please do that. It makes life a 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:13.159 lot easier. Now when it comes to my dad's business. Okay, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.839 so he runs a small business like many people in America, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.640 and technology is always an issue because you know, you 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.479 are good at your small business, your trade, whatever you do, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.600 but maybe technology does not come as easy to you 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.480 as it does for maybe someone that is much more 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.560 technology focused or a digital native. So my dad's been 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.680 doing his trade, which happens to be roofing, for a 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.200 very long time. He's very good at it. But he 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.839 does these things called proposals and invoices. You know what 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.520 those are, right, proposal estimate for the job invoice. You 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.920 got to get paid for your job. Well, he's been 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:49.480 using these pre printed invoices forever and proposals, which, of course, 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.120 back in the day when he was using an old 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.520 school computer and it had the software from the company 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.200 that he bought the invoices from, it would fill everything 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.240 in in a nice way. And back before then, by 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.200 the way, it was a typewriter, which was really easy 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.719 to fill in because you just move the typewriter to 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.080 the part of the paper that you wanted to type 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.080 on and you typed very easy. Well, nowadays he's still 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.440 using that pre printed paper, which he likes because it 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.040 looks professional. But he tries to type it out on 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.480 his computer and like, I think it's Microsoft word or 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.040 something like that, and he tries to align where he's 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.320 typing on the proposal on his computer just by eyeballing it. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:23.080 So what does that mean. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.480 He's typing in a bunch of times, he's printing it 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.920 out a bunch of times things are misaligned. I said, Dad, 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.440 you can't do that anymore. We've got to get you 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.840 in the twenty first century and make this easy because 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.080 it'll save you a lot of time. So of course 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.000 I embark on this journey while I'm trying to hang 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.320 out with my family, while I'm trying to have conversations. 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.120 So immediately I try to create him a new logo 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.280 on Canva, which I did. He actually liked it, so 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.080 I said, okay, you can use this. Then I just 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.480 tried to make the form fillable on Adobe so he 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.240 can just type everything in. I kind of scanned it 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.680 all and Adobe kind of found the form fields that 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.840 didn't work for some reason. It didn't get everything aligned. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.360 So I said, you know what, let's just make this 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.000 from scratch, and so I made I took that new 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.880 logo I made, I put it into Google Docs, and 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.960 I retyped out the entire proposal. And I knew my 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.560 dad was going to be particular about it because he 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.520 has a certain way he likes things. But he said, 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.720 you know what, I actually liked that. And we kind 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.160 of cleaned up some of the wording that he's been 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.680 using for thirty years, and I showed my dad how 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.840 to fill it out. I saved it as a template 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.400 on Google Docs, showed him how to make a copy 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.000 of the template, fill it out, save it, and then 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.560 we even emailed his first one through DOCU sign and 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.840 I'm telling you he got the signature within a couple 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.200 hours from the other person, and he was so impressed, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.080 and so was I. But here's my lesson that I learned. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.400 Even basic tech skills that you might take for granted, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.480 depending on your level of technology, can be confusing for 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.520 the average person. So please have the heart of a teacher. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.960 Please explain this stuff to your friends and family in 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.320 a very calm way. And it may take a while. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.719 It's not going to be immediate. So something like a 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.760 right click, I said, hey, write click on that. Now 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.679 he's got a laptop that of course, I gave him 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.880 one of my old MacBook pros And he said, how 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.640 do you write click when there's no button on the 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.120 right And I said, that's a great question. Now for me, 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.040 I just natively write click thousands of times a day 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.360 without even thinking about how I write click. And I 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.000 had to sit there and put my thumbs on the 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.840 track pad and figure out, wait, how do I write 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.839 click on here? And of course I figured it out 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.000 and I showed him. And again it's those little things 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.040 that you do and you take for granted that someone 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.840 that's less tech savvy may not so when you hear 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.320 about these people that fall for scams, you know, through 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.680 the phone, or through a text or through a phishing link, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.640 and you say, how could anyone ever fall for that? 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.960 This is how they're just regular people. That's what these 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.800 scam artists take advantage of their good nature and the 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.920 fact that they're not up on technology in every possible 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.880 way like you and I are, or someone that knows 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.480 about this. Now, I will tell you one thing that 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.080 even tricked me. So I was downloading I wanted to 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.319 print to his printer, which happened to be an HP printer. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.439 I have a similar printer at home. I know I 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.080 use the HP Smart app to print. So I just 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.439 said to my phone, you know, download the HP smart 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.240 print smart app, and it came up with the first 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.880 link on Google Play. I clicked it, downloaded it. I 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.400 started opening it and wanted like all this weird access 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.080 and I'm like, wait a second, hold on, did I 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.720 just get scammed by downloading this bogus app? 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.840 Even I can fall for this stuff. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.680 So if I can fall for anyone, can please be 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.200 careful out there. There are a lot of things you 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.920 need to know and a lot of things we need 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.840 to teach to people, and that's what this show is 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.120 all about, which is why I'm very excited to be 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.679 here each and every week. All Right, I'm gonna tell 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.000 you more about my trip here to New York City 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.880 and New Jersey. I'll tell you how I ended up 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.400 on a billboard in Times Square taking my kids on 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:37.000 a hike, how TikTok changes that experience, and much much more. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.880 Triple eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.760 four to two four one zero one. My name is Richdmiro. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:51.160 You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.880 rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.920 talking technology at Triple A rich. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:57.320 One oh one. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.520 That's eight eight eight seven four to two one zero one. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.080 Give me a call if you have a question about technology. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.160 You can also go to the website and send me 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.240 a message. Just go to rich on Tech dot tv 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.000 and hit the contact link up at the top. If 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.199 you want to link to something I mentioned, you can 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.920 hit the light bulb icon up at the top of 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:23.600 the page. And yes, I am broadcasting live from New Jersey. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.400 That's why we have some great New Jersey artists singing 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.760 on the show. Well, not live, but you know, there's songs, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.280 I guess. And also if you want to see highlights 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.680 from my trip, I've been talking a lot about my 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.000 trip to New York and New Jersey. I've got it 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.880 all on my Instagram. So go to my instagram at 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.880 rich on Tech. Check the highlights on the profile page 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.080 and you can see all the fun stuff I did here, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.240 all the places I ate, all the place I stayed, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.520 all the things I did. And of course the theme 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.840 is technology. I'm always telling you the coolest, best tech 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.480 that I used throughout my trip, and I will talk 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.880 about how I ended up on a New York City 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.000 billboard as well. But first, let's take a call. Let's 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.559 go to Tony in van Ey's. Tony in van. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:15.600 Eyes, you're on with rich Welcome to the show, Tony. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:16.360 You there. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.560 Oh, we gotta have so this Because it's a remote show, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.680 Bobo's got to actually bring up Tony and Van Eyes. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.360 So I don't know if that's ready to go yet. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.640 So let's be while we until Bobo tells me that 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:33.280 we've got our caller. Okay, oh Tony here, can you 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.920 hear me? I cannot hear Tony. Well, we thought we've 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:43.600 done this before. There Hello, yeah, okay, there you go. Okay, great, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:44.480 I can you hear me? 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:44.679 Now? 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.880 I feel like I've an entire ad campaign was built 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.120 from that. What can I help you with? 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:57.960 Tony Pleasure speaking with Geez, question about VPN on smartphone? Ah, 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:03.640 what do you recommend? I have one, but sometimes it 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.680 just goes out and I have to turn it back 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.760 on and that's. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:08.600 An iPhone thing. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.880 Exactly. Yeah, so okay, so here, Yeah, here's my recommendations 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.480 on the The VPN, which by the way stands for 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.440 virtual Private network. Uh, this sort of creates an encrypted 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.640 tunnel if you want to use the Internet a little 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.720 bit more private privately, I guess private focused. So if you, 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.680 for instance, don't want anyone to be able to see 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.760 what you're doing, or you don't want your ISP or 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.360 your wireless carrier, it makes the connection between you and 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.360 the servers a little bit more private. Now I say 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.960 a little bit more because people would argue that you know, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.240 nothing is one hundred percent. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.800 But with that said, the. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.480 iPhone, by the way, has a has a history of 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.839 turning off VPNs every so often, so as far as 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.600 I've seen now, these VPN apps try to turn it 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.160 back on, but it doesn't always work. So if you 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.160 are using a VPN on iPhone, uh, sometimes it just 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:00.840 toggles off and you have to go back in and 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.680 toggle it back on. Or the app might have a 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.320 setting for a persistent connection. But I don't think you 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.400 need a VPN all the time. So Number one, when 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.480 do you need to use a VPN? If you ever 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.640 want to protect your browsing history, or you want to 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.800 get access to a block site. So for instance, if 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.600 you're in China or another country that may not allow 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.360 you to access a certain site, you might want to 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:24.040 use a VPN. Like I said, it can also help 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.320 you protect yourself. So if you want to use say 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.320 the public Wi Fi at a hotel or a library, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.320 but you want to access something that's a little bit 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.840 more sensitive or something that is like your financial information, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.360 you'd probably want to use a VPN. So what do 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.280 you want to look for? Number one A no log VPN. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.840 These are VPNs that promise not to keep your user data. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.600 Typically you want to look for an independent audit to 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.640 verify those privacy claims. And you have to understand that 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.000 a VPN can slow down your Internet connection, so it 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.800 may not be as fast as a direct connection. On 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.800 your phone, and if you're looking for the different protocols 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.440 that they have, there's a couple of them. Wire Guard 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.280 is the one that you want. It's just I think 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.040 it's a little bit more modern. That's the one that 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.960 you want to look for. So how do you choose 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.600 a VPN? So you want a VPN that works across 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.880 various devices. Free VPNs typically not so great. Historically, there 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.560 are lots of companies that promise free VPN. You know, 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.440 you can try one of those, but you know it 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.600 may not tick all of these boxes that I'm talking about. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.120 So let me see this Proton vpn. I think they 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:34.000 offer a free level of VPN. So yeah, so Proton, 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.200 if you want one that's free, that's pretty very trusted. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.920 If you go to protonvpn dot com, they have a 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.800 free level. You get one device, no ads, no logs, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:49.920 unlimited and free forever and that works across various various devices. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:54.120 So obviously there's probably some sort of catch that that 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.200 they have on that free plan, and it looks like 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.720 it's because it's limited to just one device at a time, 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.400 But that is an option for a free VPN. Some 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.080 of the other things to look for if you're purchasing 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.080 a VPN, like on a paid program, you want one 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.280 that works across multiple devices, so you can use it 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.720 on both your iPhone but also an Android, also a computer. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.320 Multiple server locations. Sometimes you want to spoof where you are, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.680 so you say, you know they have server locations in 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:24.120 various places, obviously no bandwidth caps, and you're probably gonna 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.720 pay anywhere from five to ten dollars a month. Some 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.200 of the trusted brands in the past that I've talked 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:34.880 about on KTLA include molvad, surf Shark, IPVN, and tunnel Bear. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:36.440 So those are some of the. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.360 Brands that you need to look into, but again, pick 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.000 one that works for you. Great question. Thanks for the call. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.600 Eighty to eight Rich one O one eight eight eight 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.240 seven four to two four one zero one. The website 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:52.360 for the show Rich on tech dot TV. Coming up 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.680 so much to talk about uh AT and T is 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:00.600 raising prices. I've got a recall that a power device 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.720 that was sold at costco a portable charger, So if 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.439 you've bought one of those, you want to stay tuned. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.040 And of course coming up, I will tell the story 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.240 of how I ended up on that New York City Billboard. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.119 It is pretty wild. My name is Rich d'miro. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:27.760 You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.560 rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.320 talking technology at triple A Rich one oh one. That's 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.320 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.120 Give me a call. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.240 If you have a question about technology, you can also 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.399 go to the website and send me a message. Just 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.840 go to that same website rich on Tech dot TV 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.000 and hit the light bulb icon and that will bring 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.000 you to it. We just played my Chemical Romance. They 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.280 are from Newark, New Jersey. That is where I've flown 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:00.640 into more times than I can tell you. I can't 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.080 tell you because I use an app called Flighty, which 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.520 keeps track of all of the different flights that you've taken, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.879 and it's pretty incredible. So it told me that I 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:12.800 have spent I think, like, I don't know, I don't 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.159 want to miss quote here. I think it was like 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.600 one hundred and fourteen thousand hours in the air flying 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.119 to New Jersey. Now that's just the ones that the 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.400 flights that it found. I'm sure there are many more. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.640 But yes, I've been flying back and forth between LA 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.399 and New Jersey for many many years now. On that note, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.520 Sarah from Los Angeles writes in Rich, sounding good from 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.920 New Jersey, I'm glad you had that experience with your 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.760 dad and had to write click, which, by the way, 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.000 you didn't explain. I'm sure it's frustrating with some questions 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.200 that have you thinking, wait. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:41.800 You don't know how to do that, But you're one of. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.280 The only resources for super basic questions, so please try 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.000 to remember that some people need very simple explanations. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.359 Thanks Sarah. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.480 That is a good reminder, and I do try to 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.639 make things simple, but yeah, I do have to remember 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.760 that even some of the most basic things don't come 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.920 easy to everyone. So by the way to write click, 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.720 I did figure it out. It is two fingers on 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.360 my truck pad. It took me a while to kind 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.960 of figure out what my motion was, but yes, two fingers. 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.000 That's just one way to write click. I'm sure there 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.480 are many others on the mac. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:14.040 Let's see. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:19.639 Let's go to Thomas in Carlsbad, California. Thomas in Carlsbad 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.320 at California, Line one. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:22.120 You're on with Rich. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.359 Hey, Rich, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my call. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.720 Rich. I'm on an old school, AT and T hookup 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.760 WI took an Internet table to my router my Wi 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.360 Fi connections in the house. Given their system is terrible 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:43.680 to get things to work, I want to disable their 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.480 router and put in a new mesh system. Any advice 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.520 in the pass through looks like something I'm not quite 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:52.960 capable of handling. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.360 And what do you mean past So they. 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:03.360 Talked about use that router, Oh right, right, right. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.800 Yeah, and then you have to go on a pass through. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.280 Yeah, and okay, So I when I set mine up. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:11.840 It's been a while since I set mine up, but 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.840 I remember there's a lot I put a lot of 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.880 thought into that. The idea is that there's that AT 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.760 and T is handling the routing of the network. So 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.160 what they want you to do is disable their kind 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.520 of router and use the Well, what I use is 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.400 EO E E R O and that will handle all 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.919 of the routing. Now, as far as I remember, and 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:35.719 like I said, it's been a while since I actually 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.440 set this up, so I need to remember if I 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.159 actually did that or not. But as far as I know, 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.960 I'm pretty sure I just plugged my ERO into the 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.480 back of the UH into the back of the AT 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.560 and T router and just let it go. But the 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.040 pass through if you need to change that or toggle 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.760 that off, you will find that in the settings on 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:57.960 the AT and T device. Now, turning off the Wi 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.000 Fi is very very easy. So on pretty much every 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.600 router from like a cable company or wherever you get 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.000 your Internet from, you know, they give you that box. 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.640 And nowadays these boxes include both a router which takes 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:13.880 that Internet signal and kind of helps figure out where 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:15.879 to route things throughout your home. So if you go 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.840 to a website on your computer, that router will get 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:20.960 that information, it will send it back to AT and 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.160 T or whoever your ISP is, and it will get 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.040 that website for you, and it will give you that information. 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.800 But when you're using your own system, and by the way, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.640 most of these modern systems that they're giving you include 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.200 Wi Fi, so that Wi Fi, that same box that's 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.720 also a router also serves as your Wi Fi hub 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:44.119 and that it emanates this Wi Fi connection that you know, 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.159 sends a signal throughout your house. Now, typically these have 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.920 been pretty low powered in the past. Nowadays, I've seen 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.680 a lot of these companies are actually upgrading to more 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.000 you know, even a mesh network. Sometimes, like some of 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.720 these companies, you can even ask for a little satellite 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.760 mesh network, you know, like an extra router or an 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.159 access point they're called, and they can give them to 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:05.680 you as well. 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:07.760 But I say skip all that. 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.800 Go get yourself an euro E E R O system 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.359 or an ORB. There's so many different brands that are 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.320 out there that are all pretty good, but you know, 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.240 those are two that I really like. And once you 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.440 plug it in, it will it will guide you through 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.399 the setup. And the main thing that you want to 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.840 do is is definitely turn off the Wi Fi that 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.040 emanates out of that router box that the cable company 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.640 supplies you. That way you don't have two competing Wi 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.720 Fi signals throughout your house. And again what I was 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.200 saying is that the on the bottom of these boxes 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:43.919 there's usually a place where you can log into the 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:47.120 box and change some settings. Now, before you do that, 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.439 just be warned that, you know, there are a lot 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.199 of settings and they're not very easy to kind of 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:55.280 figure out. Sometimes they are, sometimes they're not, so just 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.920 beware when you go in there that it may take 0:22:58.080 --> 0:22:59.800 you know, like, just be informed. 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:00.400 Now. 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:01.920 The other thing is you may not have access to 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.160 your computer during this time because you're gonna be accessing 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.960 the router itself, and you need to usually plug in 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:12.200 your computer directly hardlined to that box because you're gonna 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.840 be changing settings on that box. It's gonna restart, it's 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.000 gonna be doing some things. So you want a hard 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.600 connection because if you're not hardwired, as soon as you 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:21.919 turn off that Wi Fi on that cable box, your 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.560 computer's gonna have no Internet connection. So you need to 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:26.560 keep all these things in mind before you go and 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.959 change stuff. But when it comes to the access point, 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.399 I feel like and I really need to kind of 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.680 school myself in this and see if I actually change 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.680 those settings since it's been so long. But there are 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:39.240 some settings where you can set it up as a 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.240 pass through, and that means that the router is saying 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.200 they're putting their hands up on your router and saying, 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.520 you know what, We're not doing anything. We're gonna let 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.520 your new euro handle everything on your network, and we're 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.440 literally just going to be a cable modem that takes 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.080 the signal in and we're gonna give give that signal 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.480 to your Eero, and Ero's gonna serve as both the 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.280 router and also the Wi Fi and so that's what 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.440 they're saying when they talk about that pass through mode. 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.320 Other than that, it's very easy to set up. Most 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.320 people are just plugging these things into the back of 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.960 their cable router and it's pretty much plug and play, 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.040 and the app is where it will log you in 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:18.960 and get you through everything that you need to know 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.920 about how to set this thing up. But again, I 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.520 would check out EURO, I would check out ORB and 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.639 make sure you have a cable physical cable that you 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.120 can connect your router. And the password and user name 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.880 is usually printed on the bottom of your router as 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.280 well as the log in which is typically something like 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.520 a one nine to two dot one six eight number. 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.600 So if you see that, you type. 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.720 That into your web browser and you log in with 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.120 the username and password that's on the bottom of your router, 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.080 that will give you access to these settings on that 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.320 black box that sits under your TV. 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:51.879 Just be careful. You can always reset it back to 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:52.520 the factory. 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:54.480 There's probably a little pinhole that you can push a 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.159 paper clip in. If you really mess things up, you 0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.879 can always get it back to the factory. Good question, 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.040 and yes, get that Mesh network, because it really does 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.480 make a difference. You will get a signal that's throughout 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.840 your house. So the way the Mesh network works is 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.040 that it takes that one signal that you're getting from 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:17.320 your router box now it's the EURO and it sends 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:21.280 it throughout your home by using these access points that 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.000 are additionally located throughout your house. You've got the one 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.040 box under your TV. Now that's the signal coming in 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.919 from the cable company that goes into your ERO, and 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.880 then the EERO takes that signal and kind of boomerangs 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.440 it around your house through the use of these little 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.919 access points that you place in locations. 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:39.080 Throughout your house. 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.080 So they all work together to blanket your home in 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.920 Wi Fi versus just imagine one little box that's under 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.560 your TV. It's crowded under there. The signal is being 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.080 blocked in a million different ways, and that signal does 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.640 not make its way throughout your house. These eros and 0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.960 the similar systems have figured out a way to kind 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:02.280 of tune each other specifically to carry that Wi Fi 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.280 signal and manage it throughout your house, and that's why 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.200 the signal works better. And of course over the years 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.000 I've been using this since day one. We actually had 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.600 Nick Weaver, the one of the I think he was 0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.639 the creator of Ero. He kind of came up with 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.520 this whole concept and made it commercial. He came to 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.560 KTLA to do an interview, and I'm not gonna joke. 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.160 He was very seem very young at the time. I said, 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.160 you created this new technology and he said, yeah, and 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.879 it kind of revolutionized how we access Wi Fi in 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.760 our homes. It's because it's gotten so much better thanks 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.400 to what he did with this idea of a mesh network. 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.800 So anyway, that is what I think you need. I 0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.159 think it'll help and I think it'll be a lot better. 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.080 All right, thanks for the question. Eighty eight rich one 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.120 one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.480 zero one. I promised you the story about how I 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.320 got on the Wi Fi billboard. 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:52.520 In New York City. 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:54.480 I will tell you that. 0:26:54.440 --> 0:27:04.520 Story coming up right here on rich On Tech. Welcome 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.200 back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.399 with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one oh 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.480 one eighty eight seven. 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.920 Four to two four one zero one. 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.000 So this week I've been hanging out in New Jersey 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.640 and New York visiting some family, doing some things, and 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:26.640 we stayed at this hotel in Times Square that turned 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.919 out to have this like incredible view of Times Square, 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.439 Like it's literally at the top of Times Squares, so 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.080 you have the view of the entire square, which we 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.920 didn't realize until we went to breakfast and wow, oh 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:41.119 my gosh, what this is. This is wild. So it 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.000 took us a bit to figure this out too. We 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.680 saw the billboards obviously in Times Square, but one of them, 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.159 after like seeing it cycle through the billboard probably one 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.640 hundred and fifty times, I realized I was like, wait 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.320 a second. It said something about you can download an 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.840 app and be on the billboard, and so I said, 0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:02.280 that's kind of interesting. An eighteen thousand square foot billboard 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.480 at the corner of forty seventh Street and Seventh av 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:09.159 in Time Square, about four hundred thousand people see it daily. 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.640 And you download this app called the TSX app, and 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.200 you upload a picture, you type in some text whatever 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.520 you want, or you can upload some video and next 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.840 thing you know, you pay a couple of bucks and 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.800 your video or clip or whatever shows up on this 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.119 billboard in Times Square. And so I said, well, of course, 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.160 I have to do this as the tech guy, right. 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.439 I got to figure out how this works and if 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.000 it really does work, and how cool it is. So 0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.120 I just took one of the pictures that we took 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.560 on our trip and it uploaded to the app. I 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.600 typed in New York City twenty twenty four at rich 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.880 On Tech and it had some rules as to what 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:47.880 you can do, what you could say on the billboard. 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.280 Social media handles are allowed, things like QR codes and 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.280 URLs are not allowed. And once you upload it, you 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.320 pick your time where it's gonna appear on the billboard. 0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.320 I picked like seven to fifteen PM, and you pay 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.560 forty dollars and of course they took Apple pay or 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.280 Google pay, so it was very easy to do the 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.640 entire process. I would say it took me less than 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.680 a minute. And then someone, obviously a human has to 0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.240 approve what you're doing, because you know, they don't want 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.240 you to put something up there that's you know, bad, 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.480 And so it was approved and next thing you know, 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.080 it said, okay, your time is seven fifteen pm. Seven 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.560 fifteen is seven to seventeen. So we sat there in 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.760 the restaurant at the hotel, all of us and we 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.600 watched our pictures show up on this billboard in Time 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.600 Square for fifteen seconds, and I got to say, what 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.120 a smart business. By the way, this could be replicated 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.560 anywhere that there is a large group of people. And 0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.560 I'm sure this is just the first of its kind, 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.840 but this is a very very smart business. I paid 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.440 forty dollars to have my billboard up in Times Square 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.120 for fifteen seconds. And by the way, if you want 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:51.760 to see it, you can check out my Twitter at 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.480 rich on Tech. I posted the picture of me looking 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.480 at the picture. I'll also put it on my Instagram 0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.720 at rich on Tech. But I thought this was such 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:01.200 a smart idea. 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:02.160 The amount of. 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.080 Money that they make from these fifteen second clips throughout 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.080 the day is probably incredible and throughout the year, and 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.680 it's just a billboard that makes money in New York City. 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.000 Of course, all billboards make money because they're showing ads, 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.560 but the fact that this one shows user generated ads 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.640 is just really really cool. So again, the app is TSX, 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.400 and I guess it's TSX Entertainment is the company that 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.200 came up with this brilliant idea. We had a lot 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.600 of fun, and you know, you saw other people doing 0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.400 it as well. So it's kind of cool to see 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.360 yourself on a billboard in New York City. And now 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.720 I can say I've done that all right. Eighty to eight, 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.320 rich one, oh one, let's take a call here. Let's 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.840 go to line one. That is Nicole in Los Angeles. 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.440 Nicole in Los Angeles. You are on with. 0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.200 Rich Hi, thank you for taking my call. 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:51.320 Absolutely, what can I help you? 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:59.320 With my Apple MacBook Pro to adath and with display 0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.400 or doesn't work. I can't get an image. And when 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.480 I took it back to Apple, they said it was 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.000 going to toss around to hundred dollars. And I purchased 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:07.320 this lab. 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.000 I was going to say, I was going to say 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.880 six hundred bucks. That's how much it costs me. When 0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.080 I got my uh my kid threw a toy at 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.240 my computer screen and cracked it, and uh, six hundred 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.120 bucks the price. 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.160 So go ahead. What's your question whether you should got 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:21.880 a new one, should I. 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.800 Get a new one and my or should I fix it? 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.840 Or I'm also thinking about getting a Samsung laptop because 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.280 I didn't use all the all the features that the 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.239 MacBook Pro had to offer. I'm just not that kind 0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:34.520 of a. 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:38.360 User, it's really just for my leisure. It being a 0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:43.080 lot of online search emails, that's about the extent of it. 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.760 I do open up a lot of pages, a lot 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.920 of web pages all at once, and that's it. 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.320 I'm not editing. I'm not looking at videos. I don't 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:51.960 really watch TV. 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.680 What do you like about the What do you like 0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.000 about the Samsung versus the like? Are you not liking 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.880 the MacBook anymore? Do you not like gample? 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.400 Really? An Android user, I have a fan stung tone, 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.040 so I kind of like that idea that it's you know, 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.560 working together. I have STANSTUNGD appliances. But I do have 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.760 some Apple products, like I have an iPad that I love. 0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.480 You know, I didn't like my MacBook Pro, but again 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.280 I didn't use already had to offer me, which was fine. 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.160 I was okay with that, but now that it's broken, 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.920 I don't necessarily want to pay that price bag again. 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.960 So I hear you, well, look, I mean I see 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.280 this in two ways. Number one six hundred dollars solves 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.000 your problem for another couple of years. 0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.720 So that's what I end up doing. 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.200 Because of course, anytime you have a repair, you think, 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.160 do I get a new one, do I you know? 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:40.160 Or do I pay for this? 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.800 So a new computer is going to cost you easily 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.000 one thousand bucks, right, but it's going to last you 0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.800 at least, you know, four or five six years from today. 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.640 For that amount of money, the six hundred dollars you're 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.760 going to spend is going to last you at least. 0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.360 I would say, I'm looking at the Mac os Sequoia 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.640 because that's how I go by how long your Mac 0:32:58.720 --> 0:32:59.560 is going to be supported? 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:00.440 What your Mac? 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:00.760 Do you know? 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:02.520 I've purchased it. 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.840 A little bit, so it's probably probably a twenty nineteen 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:11.239 MacBook pro Sequoia is going to be compatible with a 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.280 twenty eighteen and later. That tells me that you're probably 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.960 going to get at least two more years of software 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.000 updates from Apple on this computer, So that three hundred 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.600 dollars divided by two at a six hundred divided by 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.560 two is three hundred dollars for the next two years. 0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:29.880 So I would probably lean towards just repairing this because 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.720 you've got at least two more years out of it. 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.040 And then, by the way, it's still worth something that 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:35.680 you can sell it for even if it's one hundred 0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.960 dollars or something, versus the new Mac versus the new Samsung, which, 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.600 by the way, I will tell you if you have 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.360 a Samsung phone, I've been testing their Samsung their new 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.720 Galaxy books, and it is amazing. Like you take a 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.719 picture on your Samsung phone, it immediately shows up on 0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.120 your Windows computer because it's all in sync like the 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.520 the just the way the iPhone works with the Max, 0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:01.280 the Samsung phones work with these Samsung Galaxy Books. 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:02.560 So if you really. 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.360 Want that and you're trying to go for a change, 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.520 then you know, I say go for the new Galaxy Book. 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.160 But if you just want to spend the six hundred dollars, 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.040 be done. Your computer, you know, is good to go. 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.279 You've already had it, you're comfortable with it. Maybe you 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.359 want to just plan a little bit more because we're 0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.680 just seeing these new AI computers come out, so it 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.200 might be best to maybe wait one cycle on those 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.799 because I'm all brand new right now. So maybe in 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:28.640 the next two years, you just kind of plan for 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.960 this new Galaxy PC. 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.280 Okay, I like that. Yeah, I I'll have a problem. 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.120 Yeah it actually makes sense. 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.040 I like it. Yeah, that's what I would do. 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.000 Just make sure you if you can back up your 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:41.840 computer before you send it in, because they may have 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.839 to wipe the drive in the process of replacing that 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:46.960 screen or whatever they do in the repair, So just 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.080 be aware that you may lose data and if you 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.479 can't see the screen, you're going to have to figure 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.880 out a way to mirror the screen or connect your 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.560 computer to a like a TV screen or something to 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.960 see the screen while you secure every thing and get. 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.160 Everything backed up there. All right, thanks so much for 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:03.440 the call. 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.160 Eighty eight rich one on one eighty eight seven four 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.640 to two four one zero one. Coming up, we got 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.640 lots more of rich on Tech. I'll tell you about 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.720 a recall on a portable chargers sold at Costco. 0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:20.719 This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.200 Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:25.759 triple A rich. 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:26.239 One oh one. 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.399 That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:35.280 zero one. The website for the show is richon Tech 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.040 dot tv. If you want to send me an email, 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.120 you can do it there by hitting contact, or if 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.360 you want to link to something I mentioned on the show, 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.480 just hit the light bulb icon. Coming up in this hour, 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.800 We've got a lot we've got a special guest. The 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.279 special guest is later on. We've got a guest that 0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:57.080 is a Apple Design Award winning game creator black Box. 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:58.640 Don't know if you've played it on your iPhone. We 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.400 will talk to Ryan McLoud about that, and later on 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.120 we'll talk to Derek Ting, co founder and CEO of 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.640 text Now about how you can get free calling and 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.399 texting on your smartphone and even free data now. If 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.640 you bought one of these portable chargers at Costco in 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.080 the last couple of years, you might want to return it. 0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.720 My charge is recalling five hundred and sixty seven thousand 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:26.480 power Hub portable chargers due to fire risk. This is 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:30.440 a ten thousand million amp hour portable charger. They got 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.640 a couple of models affected. There is it's basically a 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.120 it's tough to read on the radio here, but a 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:41.120 zero ten or AO ten FK, Dash A, Dash B 0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.560 and Dash C. These can overheat while charging, posing a 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.520 fire and risk burn. They were sold at Costco from 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.400 January twenty twenty two to November twenty twenty three. They 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.279 cost about forty dollars. You can get a free replacement. 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.960 So far, there's been one hundred and twenty reports of overheating, 0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.120 including two residential fires with one hundred sixty five dollars 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.200 reported in property damage. Plus a bunch of these were 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.319 returned to Costco mentioning various issues. So immediately stop and 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:12.160 contact my charge for a replacement. I will put the 0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:16.760 information on the website rich on tech dot TV. Meanwhile, 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:21.080 another week, another price hike, AT and T raising prices 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:25.359 on older unlimited plans starting in August. I'm telling you, 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.239 all these price hikes are pushing people to the mv 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.480 and os mobile virtual network operators like the Mint Mobiles 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.240 of the world, and the Tings, all these different companies, 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.719 the Tellos, the let's see what's the other one. I like, 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.040 there's just so many of them mobile X. I mean, 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.120 it's just that people are noticing that their costs are 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.960 no longer fixed. When you've got a streaming service or 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:47.959 your cell phone built. 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:49.200 It just keeps going up. 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.400 AT and T increasing prices on older unlimited plans according 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.759 to c NEET, starting in August ten dollars a month 0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.600 for single lines, twenty dollars a month for multiple lines. 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:03.480 That is significant. Affective plans include various AT and T 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.720 unlimited options. You can check the cnet article for all 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.879 of the the plans. Now AT and T is doing 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.440 something kind of nice. They are going to increase your 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.279 high speed hot Spot data allowances on these plans. So 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.040 if you had thirty gigabytes, now you're getting seventy five. 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.640 If you had sixty gigabytes of hot Spot, now you're 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.240 getting one hundred. But again, this is the second price 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.120 hike by AT and T. They raised prices on their 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.480 newer plans by ninety nine cents earlier this year. So again, 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.839 lots of price hikes come in your way from all 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:37.960 of these services. 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:39.520 All right, eighty eight. 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.759 Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.160 two four one zero one. Let's go to Martin In 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.799 at Anza California line too. Martin, you are on with 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:49.920 Rich Martin? 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:50.439 Can I help? 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:50.600 Hi? 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.640 Rich? Thanks? Look taking my call. I was wondering I 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:58.080 have an iPhone seven ass and evidently Apples quit updating 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:02.799 and supporting this up the fifteen point eight point two 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.840 or something, So it is just it's an obsolete phone. 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.799 Uh is it an obsolete phone? Well, I mean you 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.759 can still use it for other stuff. I mean, look, 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:14.840 the phone is not going to stop working. It's just 0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.279 not getting software updates, and some of the apps are 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.279 just going to start barking at. 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:23.000 You right right, No security updates, no nothing. 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.520 Yeah, so that is the problem. I'm trying to scroll 0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.600 through the list and see what's supported here. Yeah, so 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:33.960 the latest software supports the iPhone ten are and up. 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.880 So if you're looking at the iPhone seven, you're talking 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:42.319 iPhone seven, iPhone eight. There was no iPhone nine. Not 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.160 going to get tripped up on that one again if 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.560 you've listened to the Phone the Show for a long time. 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.400 So we went iPhone seven, iPhone eight. So the reality 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.239 is this phone is already a couple of years out 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.680 of service. I would say it's probably time to get 0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.759 a new one. Yes, you can still use it, but 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.040 you are putting yourself at risk. You can trade this 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.160 phone in, you can sell it. There's a website like 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.440 gizmo Go that I like. You might get a couple 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:09.879 of bucks for this. You can also turn it into 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.080 a security camera. A lot of people like to do 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.000 that with their old phones. You know, you can download 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.200 some software and turn it into a security camera. That 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.799 might be an option, but otherwise I think I think 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.520 it's time for a new phone. This is this how 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:24.480 long do you have this phone? 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.480 I bought it in twenty eighteen, so it's six years. 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.239 Is that about the life spanities? 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:32.480 Yes? 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:38.000 In fact, yeah, so on the iPhone side, the lifespan 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:43.080 published is officially about five years. Traditionally, Apple has supported 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.440 their phones for about six years on the dot. Now 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.480 when it comes to the Android side of things, the 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.680 trend that we're seeing there is seven years. So will 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.080 Apple do seven years? I'm not sure, but Apple has 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.120 been really good. I know there's a lot of conspiracy 0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:00.360 theories out there that Apple tries to put these software 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.960 updates out there just to ruin your phone. I don't 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.280 think that's the case. I think that software is getting 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.480 better and better and better. It requires more horsepower. And 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.520 if everyone's using an iPhone seven, that's putting them at 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.120 risk of you know, viruses and malware and all kinds 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.960 of different things, you know, phishing attempts, all that stuff 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.239 happening on their phone. If people are if a lot 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.560 of people are using that, what happens then the experience 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:26.200 of using that device dwindles and people start complaining to Apple. 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.120 So I think, you know, five six years is a 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.920 pretty reasonable clip for a phone. If you do the 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.360 math on those things. So, Martin, what do you what 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:35.360 are you thinking about getting? 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.320 Well, I'm thinking of going backwards. Do you know anything 0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:44.480 about the Nokia twenty seven twenty or twenty seven eighty 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:45.320 flip phones. 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.360 I know that a lot of people are starting to 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.640 use them, and I have no problem with you going 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.640 backwards as well. If you're not using the smart features 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.480 on this phone, why not. Your battery is going to 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.680 last a long time. The phone's going to cost you 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.160 under one hundred dollars, and you know you'll still be 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.839 able to text, but it's just going to take you 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.040 a lot longer to text on that phone. But that's 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.840 the major downside. But otherwise, don't retired. 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.839 I'm I'm at home, I'm on why Fi. I got 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:18.279 like I have, okay, twenty five dollars a month after 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:22.239 the discounts from Verizon for a five gigabyte plan and 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:26.720 that's all I need. I don't use three two streak 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:32.000 gigga guy by in a month on just the outside, 0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:33.680 you know, yeah, I. 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:35.880 Mean it sounds to me, It sounds to me like 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:37.759 you just want to be connected and all you need 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.640 is that phone line, maybe a text or two occasionally 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.200 you're not surfing YouTube on there, you're not surfing the 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.880 web on your phone. But yeah, I think that the 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:47.839 only thing is you just have to figure out if 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.400 that Nokia is compatible with your Verizon network. 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.800 That's the only thing you'll have to I know the 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:59.600 twenty seven twenty is. But did you have a add 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.760 or some them for dumb Wireless a while back? 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:06.400 Yeah? Yeah, we did a segment with them on kJ. 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:12.000 Twenty that I could get through from them from Verizon 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.520 or go just down to the Verizon store to Meca 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.719 and get to twenty seven twenty. So you know, that's 0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:22.720 what I probably do in the meantime until the next 0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.359 sc comes out, hopefully next year. What is that to 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:27.880 be the fourth generation? 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:29.640 Yeah? 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.200 Actually, uh, let's see, I was just looking this up 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.600 the iPhone SE. There's there's a new rumor about when 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:39.000 it's coming out, and the website that I typically go 0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:43.879 to is mac Rumors Buyer's Guide, and if you go there, 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:45.759 let's see what the rumor is on the SE. So 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.080 it's been eight hundred and thirty seven days since they 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.920 came out with an iPhone SE. Again, this is the 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.480 only iPhone remaining that has that fingerprint reader on it, 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.040 you know, the little touch ID kind of thing. And 0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:02.279 the rumor says that the iPhone SE with face oh 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.040 with face ID, oh no, they're going to get rid 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.400 of that thing, is going to be under five hundred 0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.520 dollars and the launch is supposed to be according to 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:14.320 mac rumors, let's see here. Oh, according to the information 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:18.319 that mac Rumors is quoting, let's see design similar to 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.239 iPhone fourteen is going to come out in spring of 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.200 twenty twenty five, so you still got a while. 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.880 So yeah, yeah, that's yeah. 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.440 That's always. They're going to get rid of the home 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.239 button at the bottom of the of the phone like 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:33.560 on the cheven Ass. 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.080 That's what they're saying here. 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.680 If this rumor is accurate, the iPhone SE would finally 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.040 gain face ID in a notch instead of touch ID 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.360 and a home button. So uh, that will probably be 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.520 Apple's least expensive phone when it launches. 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.439 But yeah, they're saying like fourne or something. So what's 0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.520 that mean? Senior edition or. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:57.160 You know what. 0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.400 I can't it's been so long since that launched. I 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.560 can't remember what officially stood for. I'm not even sure 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.960 it stood for anything. I think the rumor was like 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.319 simple addition, but yeah, you can. You can coin it 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:10.359 senior editions. I know a lot of people like that, 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.520 like that simplicity of the phone. So Martin, thanks so 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.480 much for the call today. I really appreciate it. And 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.640 you know, upgrade to the downgrade. Why not, right, get 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.000 that flip phone and make life a little bit simpler. 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.799 That's a great thing. Speaking of phones, I have been 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.719 using a five hundred dollars phone throughout my week here 0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:31.080 in New York City and New Jersey. It's the Pixel 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.680 eight A from Google. And I'm telling you, I challenged myself. 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.920 I said, you know what, I recommended this thing on Katiela. 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:38.799 I'm going to use it as my only phone for 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:42.319 a couple of days throughout the city. And sure enough, 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.160 I am so impressed with this phone. It does everything 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.920 you need for five hundred dollars and it's really good. 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.200 And by the way, so far we have not seen 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.799 a substantial price drop on this phone. It hasn't gone 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.239 on sale in a big way just yet, but I 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.919 still fully expected to go on sale for anywhere between 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:02.000 three hundred and fifty four hundred and fifty three hundred 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:02.600 and fifty four. 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:03.279 Hundred fifty dollars. 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.600 So if you're looking for a really good phone at 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.640 a very inexpensive price, I really still like the Pixel 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:08.840 eight A. 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.120 Check out my instagram at rich on Tech. 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:12.960 All the pictures you see there, a majority of them 0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.200 were taken with this Pixel eight A. More rich On 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:22.960 Tech coming your way right after this. Welcome back to 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.600 rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:29.479 talking technology at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.520 eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.000 zero one. Give me a call if you have a 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:38.239 question about technology, you can also email me. Just go 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:43.280 to rich on Tech dot tv hit contact. Noel wrote 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.120 me and said, if you really flew one hundred and 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:49.160 fourteen thousand hours between Lax and Newark, that's twenty thousand 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:53.040 flights at an average of six hours each way. That's 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:54.920 a lot of flights. Don't get me started on the radiation. 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.640 So my math was a little bit wrong. I looked 0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.240 up in my flighty app to see what it actually is, 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:04.680 and flight time about three hundred and three hours. 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:05.919 That's one way. 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.120 So if you double that, maybe about six hundred hours 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.960 distance one hundred and forty five thousand miles so times 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.640 two three hundred thousand miles. So yes, I've flown between 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.960 Newark and Los Angeles many times since I moved to 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:22.880 LA for college. And this Flighty app, now, it's not 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.240 I don't think it's one hundred percent accurate because sometimes 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:28.319 it loops in like friends and family members flights that 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.719 might they might have emailed me. But again, it's a 0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.560 lot and it's a cool app. It's a really neat 0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:36.239 app that will kind of tally up all of your 0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:39.360 flying and it finds even your old flights too, So 0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:42.000 if you want to download it, it's only on iOS, 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.279 but it is called Flighty fli gh t y. It 0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:51.880 is really the best app for flying period. It doesn't 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.560 book your flights, it doesn't do anything like that. It 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.879 just helps you track your flights, get on them on time, 0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:02.640 see your baggages, get heads up on delays before they 0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:04.640 even happen. It is and it's all done in a 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:08.759 very beautiful way. So check it out. Flighty is the 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.400 is the app f l i g h t Y. 0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.160 There is a premium upgrade. If you fly a lot, 0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:16.360 then you might want to look into that. Otherwise you 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.520 can use it for free. Check it out. You won't 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.800 get all of the features for free, but it's still great. 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.239 All right, let's go to line. Let's see here. Where 0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.720 are we Let's go to himI in Torrance, Line one. himI, 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:28.160 you're on with. 0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:31.919 Rich Can I call? 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.239 Yeah, welcome to the show. What can I help you with? 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:40.560 Well, a few months ago you mentioned Q like I 0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:47.520 won't charge your and UH for traveling for travel, but 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.719 I have stated why, and now I need it. I 0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.480 was wondering if you have something similar or something better 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:55.719 or the same ones you can't recommend. 0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.600 Well, are you trying to Are you trying to charge iPhones? 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.440 Apple stuff or Android? No? 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:02.920 Apple? 0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:05.280 Okay, so I think. 0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:09.839 What you're referring to is the Mofi three and one 0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.800 travel charger with mag Safe. So it's kind of expensive. 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:15.680 It's one hundred and fifty dollars. There may be a 0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:18.200 cheaper price available if this was a couple months ago 0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:20.319 that I mentioned it. But what I love about this 0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:23.600 is that it's simple. It charges your iPhone, Apple Watch, 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.640 and AirPods all at the same time. It comes in 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.879 this fabric case. Everything fits in there. It charges the 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:34.440 iPhone wirelessly at the maximum speed. But it's it's expensive. 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:38.920 The other ones I mentioned, twelve South has one called Butterfly, 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:41.920 and this is a two in one charger. So this 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:45.120 this will charge two items at once. It will charge 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.680 an iPhone in an Apple Watch. It will also charge 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.400 AirPods if you have the wireless charging case, but it 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:52.719 just won't do them at the same time. 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.520 You can only choose two items to charge it once. 0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:58.960 That one also the first one. 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:03.799 I'm sorry Mophy M p h I E and so 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:04.680 I will. 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:06.399 I will link these up on the website as well, 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.440 so you can go to rich on tech dot tv 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:11.440 as soon as I'm as soon as I'm done here, 0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.640 and I will link them up as well. So the 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:18.839 other one I mentioned was the twelve South and that 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:22.480 one is called the Butterfly, and the twelve South Butterfly 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:24.760 is a two in one charger. That one's one hundred 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:27.840 and thirty dollars and again it will charge those things. 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.160 It will charge everything you need, it just may not 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.439 do three that well, won't do three at the same time. 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.200 That also comes with four wall adapters, so if you 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.880 are traveling internationally, that's kind of nice because those are 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:41.480 all in the box. Another one I mentioned is the 0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:46.360 STM Goods Charge Tree mag Now, this one's the cheapest 0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:47.960 out of the bunch. It's one hundred dollars and I 0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:51.120 love this thing. It charges all three at once. I 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.000 used to use the old version. This is the new 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.960 version that has mag Safe, which means pretty much all 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.719 the modern iPhones or many of the modern iPhones have 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:03.239 that magnet ring on the back that will help this 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:06.040 to charge very easily and line it up properly and 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.600 all that good stuff. But this one folds up. It's 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.080 super compact. Again, it's one hundred dollars, so it's the 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.759 cheapest of the bunch. But the trick here is that 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:17.400 it does not come with a wall adapter, so that 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:19.799 is sold separately, or maybe you have one at home. 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:22.359 You need one that's at least twenty watts to get 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:26.080 the full charging capacity out of this device. Again, that 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:30.200 one is called the STM Goods Charge Tree mag and 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.680 that's one hundred dollars and I've been carrying around for 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.880 a while now. I really love this one because it 0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.920 solves the problem of I don't need an extra charger 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.080 for my Apple Watch. It's called the Belkan Boost Charge Pro. 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:45.600 Now it is pricey, it's one hundred dollars, but it's 0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:48.640 a it does a couple of things really well. Number one, 0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:52.759 it's a ten thousand portable battery pack, So that means 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:54.799 when you're on the go, you can just plug your 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.120 phone into this device and it will charge your phone. 0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:01.440 But it also has a built it's in Apple Watch 0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.160 charger on it, so you never need to bring a 0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:06.640 separate cable to charge your Apple Watch. Apple has a 0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.600 very proprietary cable for the Apple Watch. It's annoying if 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.719 you travel a lot, you got to bring it everywhere. 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.120 This boost charge pro means you only have to carry 0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.120 one device, a portable charger, which by the way, I 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:19.719 recommend everyone carry anyway, and you also have your Apple 0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:21.839 Watch charger so when I get to my hotel room. 0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.040 So when I'm on the plane, I charge my phone 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.160 with the battery bank. Then when I get to a 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:30.359 hotel room, I charge the battery bank by plugging it in, 0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:32.279 and then I just put my Apple Watch on top. 0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:34.879 So everything gets charged up and it's one less thing 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.960 to carry and it's really really convenient. Again, I will 0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.080 link all of these up on the website. Rich on 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:43.759 tech dot TV hit the light Bulb. That's where you'll 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.680 find the show notes. This week's show is show number 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:49.759 seventy seven. So if you want to find links to 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:51.960 anything I mentioned here, I just said someone email about 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.120 the Times Square app. 0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:56.359 You can find the link on the website as well. 0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:58.360 All right, coming up, we're gonna talk to Ryan McLoud, 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:02.319 creator of the the app called black Box. This is 0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.759 a puzzle game for the iPhone that's coming up right 0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:06.080 here on rich on Tech. 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.520 Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:15.120 We are talking with winners of Apple's Design Awards at 0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:20.080 WWDC twenty twenty four. This is Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference. 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.520 These are the apps and games recognized for their excellence 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:28.440 in design and technical achievement. Joining me now is Ryan McLoud. 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.920 He has created an app called black Box. This was 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.600 originally available on the iPhone. Now it is on Apple 0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.759 Vision Pro. It got the award for Spatial Computing. Thanks 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:39.600 so much for joining me. 0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.320 Thanks so much. This is so cool. 0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:45.440 So explain what the black Box game is? 0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:50.240 Yeah, it depends where you're talking about it. It started 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:54.759 as a game for iOS collection of over forty now 0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:58.120 over eighty puzzles that don't involve touching the screen and 0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.560 has sort of evolved to the Vision Os to be 0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:04.719 this spatial concept of puzzles that kind of enter the 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:08.080 room and you have to sort of take your curiosity 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:09.760 and figure out how to solve them. 0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.080 So what made you come up with this game? Because 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.640 you said you've been doing it for this came out 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:17.440 many years ago ocasionally. 0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:19.040 Yeah, over eight years now, okay. 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.000 So what were you doing and then all of a 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:21.480 sudden you said, okay, I'm making this game. 0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:25.640 I think there was a long period of getting frustrated 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.520 kind of how it felt to me that people weren't 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:32.160 taking advantage of the full potential of iPhone iPad and 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:35.560 using the full context sensor platform that was there. There's 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.200 so much there to kind of understand your world and 0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.120 make better experiences based on that, not just something that 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:44.040 can exist under any slab of multi touch glass, so 0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:44.520 to speak. 0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:47.920 So it's a game that takes advantage of the different 0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.840 sensors and things on the iPhone. Explain that a little bit, 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:52.640 because it's kind of tough to it is. When you 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:56.600 see it, you understand, but when you're visually representing it, 0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:58.640 it's tough. It's like you might turn your phone on 0:54:58.680 --> 0:54:59.920 its side and that might solve. 0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:01.200 A yeah, exactly. 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.440 It really tries to turn things on its head immediately, 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:06.799 Like touching the screen is kind of discouraged and sends 0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:07.800 you back to the main menu. 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.520 Right, So it's really. 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:14.320 The goal is to get people thinking outside the phone 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:18.120 and in their world. Whether that sends you on a 0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.959 hike or sends you looking for a musical instrument, it's 0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:23.680 really all over the place. But to get people thinking 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.120 really critically. There isn't just something that you learn as 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:29.200 a skill like an arcade game and get good at. 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:31.760 Once you solve one, the next one is completely different, 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:36.719 and people are better and worse at different ones. It's 0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:38.879 really interesting. We're all very different in that way. 0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:41.480 How many games did you launch with on the iPhone 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:42.640 and how many are you up to? 0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:46.600 I think I launched with somewhere around forty two and 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.040 now it's up to eighty one at eight years later. 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:50.640 Yeah, twelve million players. 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:54.680 Now it's kind of has a cult viral status. Certain 0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:56.480 people have done a lot of crazy things trying to 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:57.280 play Black Box. 0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.200 So you had this idea in your head, you did it, 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:04.080 and you had twelve million people play your idea. How 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:04.960 does that make you feel? 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:05.680 It's wild? 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:10.000 Yeah, it's it's I get so many stories constantly from 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:15.000 people and the places that's taken them, and it's yeah, 0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:17.560 it's just a privilege. It's fun to share something that 0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:20.239 I wanted to play and wanted to exist, and to 0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:22.880 see that touch so many other people that feel the 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:23.359 same way. 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:25.799 Who do you think this type of game appeals to. 0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:29.279 A lot of people that play it and love it. 0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.560 Tell me they're like, I don't I don't play games, 0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:32.840 but like I love black Box. 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:33.319 You know. 0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.400 It's like, you know, there's nothing wrong with being a game, 0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:37.640 But I think. 0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.839 The kind of person who loves. 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:46.560 Easter eggs and loves surprises and loves kind of is 0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:48.480 curious to check things out and figure out how they 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:52.680 work and take something apart put it back together, or 0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:55.040 just someone that likes, you know, the kind of art 0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:56.600 that's at a gallery that you want to touch. 0:56:57.440 --> 0:56:59.160 You should be able to touch, but you're not allowed 0:56:59.200 --> 0:56:59.879 to here. 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.400 You know, you can't touch the screen, but try everything else, 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:04.920 you know, Lock your phone in a box, put it 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.360 under a pillow, go walk outside. 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.520 So you won the award for Spatial Computing. You brought 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:14.120 this to Apple Vision Pro. Yeah, what made you want 0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:15.880 to bring into Apple Vision Pro and what was the 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.680 new challenge of bringing this type of game to that headset. 0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:23.000 Yeah, I wouldn't even say I brought the game to 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:26.360 the headset, so to speak. I really stripped the concept 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:29.880 down back to its essence, not even on a phone, 0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:34.080 and had to grow it back onto this sort of 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:40.400 thing into your space. It was always an interesting idea 0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:44.600 to have black Box be more physical, I think, but 0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:46.760 there just wasn't the means to do so, so it 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.880 had always been kind of reduced to this two D plane. 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:53.960 It was really fun once I had tried vision pro 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.880 to think of how would these things exist? And I 0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.000 really didn't want it to feel like puzzle Box, or 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:03.240 like some sort of puzzle creator had locked you in 0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:05.440 a room and you were escaping or something like that. 0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:09.840 Those are fine experiences, but I wanted black Box to 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:12.440 be a bit more of like this phenomenon, not like 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.840 an alien thing, but kind of this like agnostic. 0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:16.960 Kind of blob something. 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.360 It's not really clear if there's any person involved, so 0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:23.480 to speak, and this was the perfect way to do 0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:25.480 it once I figured out how we could pull off 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:28.680 the visuals and call together the friends and team to 0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:29.360 make it happen. 0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:35.000 So briefly, explain what the game is like Inside Vision Pro. Yeah, 0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:37.240 you showed me a little bit earlier. It's kind of 0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:39.320 like there's bubbles, there's all kinds of stuff going on. 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:41.080 It's like very mysterious. 0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:41.160 Lots of bubbles. 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:44.760 I like if you've played Black Box on iOS, you 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.440 know there's very little language. I try to get away 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.240 from words as quickly as possible. It's the same here. 0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:53.200 Starts with kind of this mysterious splash screen. You click 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.600 away from that, and then bubbles come in all around 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:59.400 the room and that gets you away from any sort 0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:02.120 of menu or this concept that the puzzle is only 0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.120 in one place, which I think is great because as 0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:05.720 you look in over your shoulder a little bit to 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.560 see if there's more. These bubbles work if you're in 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:10.480 a living room or an office, or you're outside and 0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:12.200 they just kind of float there waiting for you, and 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.040 they sort of I. 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.320 Think bubbles just beckon interactivity. 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:18.800 You want to catch them or poke them, and as 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.080 soon as you do that, you're kind of rewarded. And 0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.160 it might just pop if it's empty, but if it's 0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:26.480 a colored bubble that contains a puzzle, then popping it 0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:30.480 will cause it to kind of, yeah, wiggle into the 0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.720 room and become its thing, start responding to you somehow, 0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.040 or you can do that bubble gesture with your hands 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:37.640 and put it back and choose a new one. 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:42.560 Now, this idea of augmented reality, virtual reality, mixed reality 0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:44.960 is still very new for a lot of people. You 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:47.200 have developed a game for one of the most cutting 0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:51.360 edge headsets out there. What do you make of this 0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.320 emerging technology? Do you think it's going to be a 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:55.240 force in our world? 0:59:56.560 --> 1:00:00.760 Definitely, it's a long road, I think, and it's really 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:02.760 fun to be a part of the very beginning of 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:07.160 it how it will evolve. This is just such a 1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:10.760 great platform to get to experiment with on I think 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:14.240 I was always interested in doing this sort of stuff, 1:00:14.240 --> 1:00:16.840 but the technology just didn't exist, at least in forms 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.080 that I felt I could approach, and I didn't know 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:20.720 how to do any of this a little over a 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:24.640 year ago. So it's been fun to have the tools 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:27.680 to sort of build these weird, wacky dreams and then 1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:31.000 take off the headset and be confused that that thing. 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:32.680 That you made is not there in the room with you. 1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:34.320 Do you get a lot of feedback? 1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:36.800 Are like people emailing you like every day, like asking 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:37.919 like for help on this game? 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:41.520 Yes, yes, And what do you do? 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:44.160 You can't reply to all that, can you try? 1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:44.680 I try. 1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:47.760 I think when I was a kid, I had emailed 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.760 some game doves and when they replied it was I 1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:53.160 remember all those So I try to reply to all 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:56.480 those emails, even if I'm really coy about it and 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:58.840 won't give an answer, and just you know, a wink, 1:00:58.920 --> 1:00:59.680 and well. 1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:02.200 You should try a little looking at a different place. 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:05.240 You know, keep playing, keep playing. So what's your advice 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:09.320 for aspiring developers? People always come to me, they say, Rich, 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:11.880 I have an idea for an app. Is it tough 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.760 to do this? You did it on your own. Do 1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:17.400 you feel like there's enough tools out there and resources 1:01:17.440 --> 1:01:19.160 to be able to for the average person to figure 1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:19.520 this out? 1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:23.880 Yeah, there's I don't think there's ever been more resources 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:25.720 and better time to get started with it. 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:27.080 Yeah, it was. 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:31.400 I'm jealous of people learning now that don't have to 1:01:31.400 --> 1:01:32.800 deal with some of the sort of things that I 1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:36.400 did coming into this field many, many years ago. 1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:37.640 Yeah. 1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:42.320 I think just paying attention to what people find they 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:45.680 like in other apps, and what experiences work really well 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.360 and what is intriguing to them, and really keeping track 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:51.000 of that and chasing that sort of how I developed 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:53.760 my sense of what I wanted to create and add 1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:54.120 more too. 1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:57.800 All Right, the app is called black Box. It's available 1:01:57.880 --> 1:02:02.200 on the iPhone. Is it on? And then of course 1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:05.680 Apple Vision pro so search for it, download it and 1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:08.720 enter this world of mystery and see if you can 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:09.840 solve some of these puzzles. 1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:12.560 Ryan McCloud, thanks so much for joining me. 1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:14.920 Thank you so much. Yeah, keep thinking outside of the bucks. 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:17.160 I'll put a link to the game on the website. 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:20.400 Richon Tech dot TV more rich on Tech coming your 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:28.560 way right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:32.960 Rich Demiro here talking technology with you. Bad week for 1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:37.320 social media and teens. A lot of legislation to kind 1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:40.960 of curb the use also help teens be on their 1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:44.000 cell phones less. So let me talk about three different 1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:46.200 things that happen. One in LA, one in New York, 1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:49.760 and then one from the Surgeon General. Let's start with 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:53.520 Los Angeles. LA Unified School District wants to vote on 1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:57.800 a proposal for student cell phone ban during school hours. 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:02.320 This aims to improve learning, reduce bullying, distraction, and anxiety. 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.800 If past staff would develop policies within one hundred and 1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:09.840 twenty days, including input from experts, staff, students, and parents. 1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:13.760 Some of the ideas they're running by including cell phone lockers, 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:17.680 cell phone pouches, or even just technology to block social 1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:21.120 media access. If this policy was approved, it would take 1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:25.520 effect in January of twenty twenty five. While it sounds 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:27.800 like it's a good idea, not everyone is happy about it. 1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:31.400 Parents are concerned about safety and communication with their kids 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:33.800 because if their kids didn't have access to their smartphones 1:03:33.840 --> 1:03:36.120 all day, a lot of parents use them to get 1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:39.720 in touch and also track where they are. Meanwhile, in 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:43.800 New York, they actually enacted enacted a law to protect 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:48.800 minors from social media. Governor Hokul signed a bill targeting 1:03:48.840 --> 1:03:53.919 addictive feeds and data collection. So two things they did. 1:03:53.960 --> 1:03:57.200 Two bills signed into law on June twentieth, the Stop 1:03:57.240 --> 1:04:01.440 Addictive Feeds Exploitation for Kids Acts Safe Act and then 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:05.120 the New York Child Data Protection Act. So the Safe 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:09.280 for Kids Act requires parental consent for social media companies 1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:12.680 to use quote addictive feeds. So already you can see 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:17.200 they turbocharge what they call these things. They're going to 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:22.360 need user parent consent on users under eighteen. It would 1:04:22.360 --> 1:04:26.479 also prohibit notifications to minors between midnight and six am 1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:29.920 without parental consent, and this would take effect one hundred 1:04:29.920 --> 1:04:33.160 and eighty days after they figure out how to age 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:36.600 verify kids on these apps. A lot of kids just 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:38.920 lie about their aide, so clearly that will not work. 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:42.760 Violators would face fines of five thousand dollars per infraction. 1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:46.240 Then you've got the Child Data Protection Act. This limits 1:04:46.320 --> 1:04:49.640 data collection on miners without consent, restricts the sale of 1:04:49.720 --> 1:04:53.360 miners information. This one does not require age verification. It 1:04:53.360 --> 1:04:56.240 will take effect in one year. So a lot of 1:04:56.240 --> 1:05:00.720 states looking at these different laws to protect miners from 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:04.080 social media because if left on checked, kids would be 1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:08.160 on their phone unlimited amounts of time, unlimited amounts of time. 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:08.919 Now. 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:14.360 The Surgeon General meanwhile, did an op ed piece arguing 1:05:14.520 --> 1:05:18.560 that we need urgent action to protect the youth's mental 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:20.160 health from social media risks. 1:05:20.600 --> 1:05:21.240 Vivic H. 1:05:21.360 --> 1:05:24.800 Murphy says adolescents spend over three hours a day on 1:05:24.840 --> 1:05:28.360 social media. If they do, they face double the risk 1:05:28.400 --> 1:05:32.360 of anxiety and depression. Average social media use for adolescents 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:37.040 was four point eight hours as of last summer. Half 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:40.680 of adolescents say social media negatively impacts their body image, 1:05:41.080 --> 1:05:45.720 and he is proposing a Surgeon General's warning on social 1:05:45.720 --> 1:05:48.320 media platform similar to what they did for cigarettes and 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:52.480 other things. Of course, all of this is debatable. I 1:05:52.520 --> 1:05:55.000 think that some kids are very healthy with their social 1:05:55.040 --> 1:05:58.360 media use, others are greatly impacted, and then you have 1:05:58.480 --> 1:06:01.120 the majority that are probably in between. But I think 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:03.760 what we're seeing here is that left unchecked, these social 1:06:03.840 --> 1:06:09.680 media platforms would of course take advantage of these impressionable 1:06:09.720 --> 1:06:12.120 youth and the fact that we're all on our phones. 1:06:12.400 --> 1:06:14.760 It's not just the young kids that are on their 1:06:14.800 --> 1:06:17.520 phones all the time. It's just that they're not maybe 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:20.280 as evolved in their brains as an adult to be 1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:23.160 able to figure out when to say enough is enough, 1:06:23.640 --> 1:06:24.480 just like anything else. 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:26.520 Uh, we'll continue to watch those. 1:06:26.640 --> 1:06:29.000 Let's go back to the phone lines triple eight Rich 1:06:29.080 --> 1:06:31.520 one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:34.880 four to one zero one. Let's go to line three, 1:06:35.360 --> 1:06:39.880 Ron in Laguna Noguel, California. Ron, you are on with 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:41.280 rich Welcome to the show. 1:06:41.400 --> 1:06:45.439 Hey, hey you're rich Man. Prosperable information each week. Thanks 1:06:45.480 --> 1:06:46.160 so much for you. 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:47.600 Thank you. 1:06:48.480 --> 1:06:48.720 Yeah. 1:06:48.760 --> 1:06:55.280 Of course, question my question. There are companies out there 1:06:56.120 --> 1:07:00.800 that offer up services to delete your name from well 1:07:00.880 --> 1:07:04.760 being and Google searches. And I know we can do 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:08.880 it manually, and thanks for your education that way. But 1:07:09.240 --> 1:07:10.560 are these things useful? 1:07:11.120 --> 1:07:11.880 Do they work? 1:07:11.960 --> 1:07:15.600 I mean they say they're on an online basis up 1:07:15.680 --> 1:07:21.720 per month where they monitor it. What are your thoughts? 1:07:21.920 --> 1:07:26.520 Well, my thought is this Number one. Do they work? Yeah, 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:28.280 they might work for some of them. 1:07:28.880 --> 1:07:31.760 I've been testing one called Mozilla Monitor to see just 1:07:31.840 --> 1:07:35.640 how well these work. And so according to that, this 1:07:35.720 --> 1:07:38.760 has auto removed two hundred and nineteen pieces of my 1:07:38.880 --> 1:07:42.720 information from the web, including my physical address one hundred 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:45.680 and twenty four times, family members names ninety three times, 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:51.400 phone numbers thirteen times. So yes, they do work. But 1:07:51.600 --> 1:07:53.640 here is We talked to an expert on this very 1:07:53.680 --> 1:07:55.840 show a couple of weeks ago about this, and I 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:58.960 asked him that question because he's all about your information 1:07:59.040 --> 1:08:01.640 on the web, mostly when it comes to the dark web, 1:08:01.680 --> 1:08:04.080 you know, the really bad stuff. So let's let's put 1:08:04.080 --> 1:08:06.480 it this way. Number one, most of the information out 1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:09.520 there is your phone number, your address, if they get 1:08:09.520 --> 1:08:12.680 that right. All of that stuff is on public records. 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:14.840 That's how these companies get it. They put it out 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:17.360 there and someone searches for you and next thing you know, 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:20.000 it says, hey, we've got Rich's address. Do you want 1:08:20.000 --> 1:08:21.800 to you know, want to see it? And by the way, 1:08:21.800 --> 1:08:24.080 it takes an hour to get to the final page 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:26.519 that shows you the actual address, if it shows you 1:08:26.560 --> 1:08:29.439 that at all. So the information is out there. Number one, 1:08:29.920 --> 1:08:32.240 Do you need to take it down? That's number two. 1:08:32.960 --> 1:08:35.800 That's a personal preference. I think if you want your privacy, 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:38.439 it's a game of whack a mole. You can take 1:08:38.479 --> 1:08:40.679 this stuff down, like I took two hundred and thirty down. 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:44.080 That does not mean that it's all gone, but I 1:08:44.080 --> 1:08:46.240 would say you might want to get it down from 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:48.800 some of the key places. And I did this myself 1:08:48.960 --> 1:08:51.640 a couple of years ago. I went to a website 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:54.200 I think it was just delete me. What was it, 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:59.240 delete me, delete me DIY. So delete me is one 1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:01.800 of these companies that will will do this for you. 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:04.879 But they also have opt out guides on their website 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:07.320 that you can follow for some of these popular websites, 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:11.080 so you can get your information off of you know, 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:15.160 truth Finder and Spokeo and background checks and all these 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:17.720 different things. So I did that myself. It takes a 1:09:17.720 --> 1:09:22.120 lot of time. It's annoying, but it did work. The thesis 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:26.280 that the expert I talked to was that this information 1:09:26.720 --> 1:09:29.920 is not the most useful information. You know, your phone number, 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:33.800 your email, your you know, your your physical address. It's 1:09:33.840 --> 1:09:36.400 really the dark web information that you should be concerned 1:09:36.439 --> 1:09:39.360 about the most. And that's your user name, that's your password, 1:09:39.800 --> 1:09:43.000 that's your date of birth, that's your email address, that 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:47.840 is your password for your different websites, your social Security number. 1:09:48.240 --> 1:09:50.679 That's the stuff that is much much harder to get 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:53.880 taken down off the web because it's up there by 1:09:54.720 --> 1:09:57.360 you know, companies that are not operating in in a 1:09:57.560 --> 1:10:01.000 you know, reputable area, more of a gray area that 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:04.559 they're operating in, or the dark web in general. So 1:10:05.040 --> 1:10:06.679 with all of that said, do I think you should 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:09.600 pay for one of these things. It's up to you 1:10:09.800 --> 1:10:11.479 to do you want to pay for it, go ahead 1:10:11.520 --> 1:10:13.160 if if you want to try it out and see 1:10:13.160 --> 1:10:17.040 what information you can have taken down, try it. But 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:18.519 most of them wants you to do it on a 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:21.360 yearly basis or a monthly basis, where they just keep 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:23.880 charging you to get this information down. But again it's 1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:25.880 a game of whack a mole. So new information just 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:28.080 pops up every single day, so you'd be doing this forever, 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:31.519 you'd be paying them forever, which obviously is the business 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:34.080 model that everyone really likes. Now, the one thing that 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:36.920 I do recommend that I think is incredible and it 1:10:36.960 --> 1:10:41.040 is free, is Google Results about you. And this is 1:10:41.080 --> 1:10:44.040 completely free. You go in, and I think this is 1:10:44.080 --> 1:10:46.720 the more important way to do it. You basically put 1:10:46.760 --> 1:10:49.599 in the information that you don't want on Google search results. 1:10:50.000 --> 1:10:52.639 Every time Google finds that information in a search result, 1:10:52.720 --> 1:10:55.720 it will give you an email and a notification and 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:58.120 will give you the opportunity to take that information off 1:10:58.160 --> 1:11:00.720 of Google search results. When I say that, that's the 1:11:00.760 --> 1:11:03.120 only thing it takes it off of, but think about it. 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:05.240 Ninety nine percent of people just go to Google, they 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:07.639 search your name, they look in those results for your information. 1:11:08.040 --> 1:11:10.640 So if the result isn't there, they're probably not going 1:11:10.680 --> 1:11:12.760 to go to Spokio or all these other websites that 1:11:12.840 --> 1:11:15.599 actually have the data. So it's like a good first 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:17.759 line of defense and it's completely free. 1:11:18.200 --> 1:11:18.760 I use it. 1:11:18.840 --> 1:11:22.000 I get notifications on a daily basis. Google takes down 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:25.040 that result very quickly and it's gone out of Google, 1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:27.680 and it's just a nice easy freeway to get your 1:11:27.680 --> 1:11:29.160 information removed once again. 1:11:29.640 --> 1:11:32.040 It is called Google Results about you. 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:35.439 I'll put the link on my website rich on Tech 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:36.160 dot TV. 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:37.599 Hit the light bulb coming up. 1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:39.680 We've got a special guest plus much more of the 1:11:39.680 --> 1:11:48.880 show right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:51.200 rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, 1:11:51.360 --> 1:11:56.160 talking technology. The website for the show rich on Tech 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:59.559 dot tv. There you can find my newsletter. You can 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:01.680 find me on on social media. I am at rich 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:04.880 on Tech. You can email the show by hitting contact, 1:12:05.920 --> 1:12:08.160 or just kind of look at the different stories I 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:11.360 do for KTLA and my TV segments, or listen to 1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:13.559 the podcast of the radio show. 1:12:14.000 --> 1:12:15.679 Thanks for joining me. Glad you're here. 1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:19.599 I've actually have a special guest with me. I am 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:23.759 broadcasting live for my parents' basement in New Jersey, no joke, 1:12:23.920 --> 1:12:27.679 that's actually where I am. My dad set up the studio. 1:12:27.880 --> 1:12:31.920 He was so excited to hang the blankets for the 1:12:32.000 --> 1:12:35.640 noise cancelation and run the cables on the floor. He 1:12:35.720 --> 1:12:38.320 said he felt like a real Hollywood gaffer. So thank 1:12:38.400 --> 1:12:41.800 you Dad for doing that. My brother, though, joins me, 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:44.240 he did not do anything except join me here. 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:47.719 To talk technology. Justin DeMuro, welcome to the show. 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:50.840 Thanks for having me on. Oh wait, hang on, let 1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:52.639 me get your I gotta actually turn on your mic. 1:12:52.680 --> 1:12:55.320 Go ahead, say that again. Justin DeMuro, welcome to the show. 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:56.680 Thanks for having me on. 1:12:57.000 --> 1:12:59.840 Okay, there you are. Okay, So I think we have 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:03.479 a little bit more so Justin is just as much 1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:06.439 into technology as I am. We are going to be 1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:10.400 talking about all of the good stuff that we love 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:14.120 to talk about offline here on the show in just 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:16.040 a moment. First, I just wanted to get through a 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:20.160 couple of notable news pieces this week. So number one, 1:13:20.200 --> 1:13:25.880 California rejected AT and t's bid to end their landline obligations. 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:27.839 This is according to Ours Technica. 1:13:28.479 --> 1:13:32.320 The California Public Utilities Commission rejected AT and t's request 1:13:32.360 --> 1:13:36.240 to end its carrier of last result obligation last resort 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:40.320 That means that they were required to keep land lines 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:41.720 up and running in. 1:13:41.720 --> 1:13:43.320 These various rural areas. 1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:47.559 And they debated with the CPUC saying, you know what, 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:49.880 come on, people have ways of making calls here, and 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:54.360 they said no, they don't. So, according to the CPUC, 1:13:54.680 --> 1:13:57.679 AT and T failed to demonstrate the availability of suitable 1:13:57.720 --> 1:14:01.640 replacement providers for the service, and the Commission clarified that, 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:04.639 by the way, these rules are technology neutral. They don't 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:07.360 prevent AT and T from upgrading these areas to fiber. 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:10.120 So what is AT and T gonna do? They're gonna 1:14:10.160 --> 1:14:11.040 lay fiber everywhere? 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:11.599 Just kidding. 1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:14.320 No, They're now focusing on lobbying to change the state 1:14:14.400 --> 1:14:18.000 law so that they can support legislation that allow it 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:21.360 to remain the Cohler in rural regions but being released 1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:24.439 from obligations elsewhere. So if you got a landline, you're 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:25.880 gonna be able to keep it and pay those high 1:14:25.920 --> 1:14:30.720 prices for a little bit longer. Amazon eliminating plastic air 1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:33.040 pillows in North American shipments, so you know, you get 1:14:33.040 --> 1:14:35.880 those little plastic like air pillow thingies and your shipments, 1:14:36.200 --> 1:14:40.240 they're replacing them with recycled paper. Companies already removed ninety 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:43.040 five percent of plastic cushions. They aim to eliminate the 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:46.240 rest by the end of this year twenty twenty four. 1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:50.840 Amazon plans to replace its plastic mailers with paper sleeves. 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:51.040 In the coming months. 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:52.680 I don't know about you, but I'm actually getting things 1:14:52.720 --> 1:14:54.559 delivered to my house that are much more like just 1:14:54.600 --> 1:14:57.040 in the box or just in like almost like a 1:14:57.120 --> 1:15:00.559 clear plastic wrapping, like you can see what's inside. By 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:03.040 the way, if you want to reach a person quickly, 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:07.120 like a real person at Amazon Customer Service quickly, life 1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:09.519 Hacker has the way, you can bypass all of their 1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:13.720 automated systems and speak directly with an Amazon representative. All 1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:17.519 you have to do is visit Amazon's contact us page, 1:15:18.120 --> 1:15:22.439 select something else, choose I need more help, and in 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:25.839 the customer service chat that pops up, type in request 1:15:25.880 --> 1:15:28.479 a phone call, and then select Okay, I'll enter my 1:15:28.560 --> 1:15:31.720 phone number. They will call you. And yes, I've done 1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:33.920 this before. They do actually have real people that will 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:37.759 call you. My advice is this, do not google search 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:41.479 an Amazon customer service phone number. You will get scammed. 1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:43.880 Whatever the result you see may or may not be 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:46.960 a real phone number, So be very careful with any company, 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:49.880 not just Amazon. But if you're googling for a phone number, 1:15:50.280 --> 1:15:53.200 make sure that phone number is originating from the official 1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:56.080 web page and not some random thing that pops up 1:15:56.120 --> 1:15:58.840 and you call it. And before we get to my brother, 1:15:58.920 --> 1:16:03.040 let me just mention this. A Tesla battery died in 1:16:03.160 --> 1:16:06.040 Arizona and a toddler was inside and it was like, 1:16:06.320 --> 1:16:09.200 you know, the car was hot. And so the takeaway 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:12.120 from this adults might know how to use the manual 1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:17.200 door releases inside these cars, but younger people cannot. So 1:16:17.240 --> 1:16:19.800 this Tesla lost power. It trapped a twenty month through 1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:24.080 twenty month toddler inside the hot car. Firefighters had to 1:16:24.080 --> 1:16:27.800 break the car's window to rescue the child. Again, all 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:31.719 of these cars had these electronic door releases, and people 1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:35.000 are unaware that there is a manual release mechanism. So 1:16:35.360 --> 1:16:37.760 if you have an electric car and you've got these 1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:41.960 doors that are electronic, figure out where the mechanical release 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.720 is and make sure you tell anyone who's in the 1:16:44.760 --> 1:16:47.240 car with you where those releases are, because you never 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:48.599 know when you're gonna need them. 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:50.400 Now, this is not just a Tesla problem. 1:16:50.439 --> 1:16:54.000 A lot of these new fangled cars are using these 1:16:54.320 --> 1:16:56.760 push button doors and all these electronic doors, so know 1:16:56.800 --> 1:16:59.080 where they are. In fact, when I was at the 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:02.600 Chicago Auto Show, I asked the Tesla rep because I 1:17:02.640 --> 1:17:04.320 was in the car, and I said, Hey, how do 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:07.000 I open this car if I'm like falling into a lake? 1:17:07.120 --> 1:17:09.080 You know, if I'm like the car is like falling 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:11.120 into water, Like, how would I open this door? 1:17:11.160 --> 1:17:13.320 Because it's all electronic, isn't it gonna short circuit? 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:15.160 And they said, yeah, there's a little pull latch on 1:17:15.240 --> 1:17:17.920 the door, so familiarize yourself with where it is. 1:17:18.120 --> 1:17:20.920 Yeah, all right, so welcome to the show. Justin Demiro. 1:17:21.000 --> 1:17:24.679 This is my brother, and Justin's a tech person as well. 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:28.720 So why your love of technology? Yeah, I think it 1:17:28.760 --> 1:17:32.360 actually comes from you. You always had the computers growing up, 1:17:32.400 --> 1:17:35.880 and I just started tinkering around with them and just 1:17:35.920 --> 1:17:38.360 grew up loving them as well, playing video games and 1:17:39.960 --> 1:17:42.240 getting into coding and eventually went to school for it. 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:45.320 So I've always loved technology. So you're much nerdier than 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:47.320 you're like, you're much more into tech. It's funny I 1:17:47.320 --> 1:17:49.519 do a tech radio show in a TV segment, but 1:17:49.560 --> 1:17:53.519 you're actually nerdier, probably smarter, and know more about this 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:55.599 stuff in your house. Like he's got his whole house 1:17:55.640 --> 1:17:58.280 set up with like all these Google like routines and 1:17:58.280 --> 1:18:00.760 they all have like the nerdiest names, like don't you say, 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:03.200 like okay computer and all this weird stuff. Yeah, I 1:18:03.240 --> 1:18:05.559 give I give all of my smart devices cute little 1:18:05.640 --> 1:18:10.559 names like like bed you and Jamo and Fie, they're 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:13.759 all just I got tired of saying living room lights. 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:16.400 You know, yeah, see that's nerdy. I love it. 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.000 And you're also an Android guy, So what makes you 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:21.920 keep Android all these years? When the you know that 1:18:22.160 --> 1:18:26.040 that rush of that wave of iPhone, like everyone is like, hey, 1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:28.200 share that picture, air drop it to me, and you're like, 1:18:28.240 --> 1:18:30.559 I can't, Like, what makes you still stick to Android? 1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:32.840 What do you love about it? That's the worst I've 1:18:33.280 --> 1:18:35.040 I've lost so many dates because of that. 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:38.120 No Android, I mean. 1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:41.559 It's just it's so flexible. I've I've never been able 1:18:41.600 --> 1:18:43.320 to not do what I need to do other than 1:18:44.439 --> 1:18:49.080 synergize with other iPhone users. So it's it just does 1:18:49.120 --> 1:18:51.559 everything I need to do. There's I know, back when 1:18:51.600 --> 1:18:55.519 they first came out, iPhone had the advantage and they 1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:57.679 had all the apps, and you go look on Android, 1:18:57.720 --> 1:18:59.240 they're like, yeah, we don't have an app or it's 1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:02.200 like some weird, like shady app that like is definitely 1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:06.040 not is like a virus or something. Yeah, but yeah, 1:19:06.040 --> 1:19:08.200 they've polished up over the years. I mean, I have 1:19:08.240 --> 1:19:10.759 a pixel and it's great. I mean it does everything 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:12.800 I needed to do. It's got great battery life. The 1:19:12.840 --> 1:19:16.960 pictures aren't incredible. It just does everything I need to do, 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:19.360 and it's out of my way. I've used iPhones before, 1:19:20.040 --> 1:19:23.080 and I'm not really a fan personally, but you know, 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:25.000 to each his own, they get to they get the 1:19:25.080 --> 1:19:25.759 job done. 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:28.080 Okay, let's talk about this story. 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:31.639 So I lent my my knowledge to this KTLA story 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:36.120 on the vinyl revival, a resurgence of analog and a 1:19:36.200 --> 1:19:40.559 digital age. So vinyl record sales continue to climb, which 1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:43.519 makes no sense in today's streaming world. But I said, 1:19:43.560 --> 1:19:46.160 it does kind of make sense. I said, you know, 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:50.040 number one, people want their ownership and control over music, right, 1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:52.320 you don't get that with streaming. That's not a huge reason, 1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:53.800 but it's kind of you know, it's one of them. 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:57.719 The tangible, collectible nature of vinyl records I think people 1:19:57.760 --> 1:20:02.000 really like, and the nostalgia factor and sensory experience is 1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:04.519 also I think what people really like. Plus it's simple 1:20:04.760 --> 1:20:06.400 and you can focus on it. Now. I went to 1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:10.559 your house this weekend. You have a record player, and 1:20:10.600 --> 1:20:12.960 I was impressed by that. So what do you like 1:20:13.000 --> 1:20:15.280 about the record player? Why do you have one? Yeah, 1:20:15.320 --> 1:20:17.439 we actually use it. It's not just there for show. 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:19.320 Yeah. 1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:22.320 I bought it for my girlfriend for I don't know, 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:25.439 some some gift at some point, and you know, because 1:20:25.479 --> 1:20:28.160 she has a collection of records, but I wanted her 1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:30.160 to actually play them and I thought it would be cool, 1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:32.040 and I didn't realize I would like it as much 1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:34.559 as I do. I mean, most of the time you 1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:36.200 want to play music, you go on your phone, you 1:20:36.240 --> 1:20:39.479 open up Spotify or a music streaming app, and you 1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:42.040 just hit play and then it plays forever. With this, 1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:47.000 it's it's a bit more of a a conscious experience. 1:20:47.040 --> 1:20:50.120 You're you're selecting the music. Like when we go to 1:20:50.160 --> 1:20:52.880 play a record, we're talking to each other and saying, hey, 1:20:52.920 --> 1:20:54.920 what do you want to play? We have this pile 1:20:55.000 --> 1:20:59.280 of records that mostly that we stole from my parents' house, 1:20:59.520 --> 1:21:02.840 so they're records. Yeah, but we also have new records. 1:21:02.880 --> 1:21:05.320 I mean she has several Taylor Swift albums. I just 1:21:05.360 --> 1:21:08.920 bought two records the other day from a concert that 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:12.200 I went to, and it's great playing them. I mean 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:15.639 you get that tactle experience with it. I will say, 1:21:15.760 --> 1:21:22.000 something you don't realize is how short a record is. Yeah, 1:21:22.520 --> 1:21:24.880 it's like what twenty minutes aside or forty minutes aside 1:21:24.920 --> 1:21:27.519 forty five that yeah, yeah, it's only it's like it's 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:30.479 maybe like ten songs max. And that goes by quickly, 1:21:30.560 --> 1:21:32.439 you don't even realize it. But again, that goes back 1:21:32.439 --> 1:21:34.160 to what you were saying about that kind of like 1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:37.040 you're you're focused on it, like it's you understand, Like 1:21:37.320 --> 1:21:39.040 you know, you play music on a streaming service. 1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:41.120 It just plays forever and ever and ever. 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:42.879 You can just leave it on for the entire weekend 1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:44.600 and never and you one might not even know a 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:46.799 song that plays in the background. Sure with the record 1:21:46.840 --> 1:21:49.400 you're placing it there. So I asked my Facebook page 1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:51.800 Facebook dot com slash rich on tech what they like 1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:56.440 about records. The commenters came in Number one, nostalgia and tangibility. 1:21:56.520 --> 1:21:57.880 That's what people like. Number one. 1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:02.200 Number two sound quality, you know, they like they think 1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:04.880 it's superior compared to digital formats, which may or may 1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:07.320 not be true. It may just sound richer. Perhaps, I 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:11.280 guess the convenience of streaming. People do like that. 1:22:11.400 --> 1:22:14.320 They do acknowledge the fact that streaming is more convenient. 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:17.960 For sure. Sure, coexistence people say, hey, look, both of 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:20.639 these things can exist at the same time, and you're 1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:21.920 you're saying that as well. 1:22:22.680 --> 1:22:23.840 Generational differences. 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:27.719 People say older listeners, the older listeners say they preferred vinyl, 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:30.960 the younger listeners say they're exploring the formats you've got, 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:34.519 you know, one two there. Some people said that there's 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:38.559 concerns about vinyls, you know, longevity when it comes to 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:40.840 like how fragile the records are. Have you scratched one? 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:44.320 I mean, I'm playing records that our parents had from 1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:47.640 they're probably from the seventies, and they still work. You know, 1:22:47.680 --> 1:22:49.160 you might get a couple of skips here and there, 1:22:49.160 --> 1:22:52.080 but that's part of the charm of the medium. I mean, 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:54.639 you don't think about music skipping these days at all, 1:22:54.680 --> 1:22:56.160 but that used to be a very real thing that 1:22:56.200 --> 1:22:59.400 we had to deal with, Like just CD players, remember 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:03.559 they had to the anti shock feature on portable on 1:23:03.680 --> 1:23:07.560 like Walkman's Yeah, and that never worked, never worked. No, 1:23:07.680 --> 1:23:10.200 it was always skipping. I remember running with a with 1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:12.800 a Walkman and it was just it just was not 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:15.479 a perfect thing. All right, we're gonna take a break. 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:18.880 You're talking, and you're hearing from me Rich Demiro and 1:23:18.960 --> 1:23:21.720 my brother Justin DeMuro. We are talking technology. We're going 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:24.640 to answer some emails that we got. Plus we've got 1:23:24.680 --> 1:23:27.800 an interview with the co founder of text Now and 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:31.320 later on. It's the feedback Everyone's favorite. We'll be right 1:23:31.360 --> 1:23:40.599 back here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 1:23:40.680 --> 1:23:44.080 on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:48.040 The website for the show rich on Tech dot TV. 1:23:48.160 --> 1:23:50.000 If you need a link to something I mentioned, hit 1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:51.559 the light bulb. If you want to get in touch 1:23:51.600 --> 1:23:55.920 with the show, just hit contact. Sitting here with my brother, 1:23:56.280 --> 1:23:58.600 Justin DeMuro, Justin, Welcome. 1:23:58.240 --> 1:23:59.240 To the show once again. 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:01.960 Thanks again. So we have a bunch of emails that 1:24:02.040 --> 1:24:04.439 you have sent in and we're going to talk about 1:24:04.479 --> 1:24:06.679 some of these. So go ahead with the first email. Yes, 1:24:06.760 --> 1:24:09.439 so we got one from Al from New Mexico rights in. 1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:12.679 Is there a reason that you rarely speak about open 1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:16.920 source Linux in general? We all report would frequently talk 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:20.160 about its benefits. I'm currently retired and live in a 1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:23.759 community with other retired folks, some of whom I've converted 1:24:23.760 --> 1:24:26.880 to Linux. Though not an expert, I have about twenty 1:24:26.960 --> 1:24:31.920 years experience with telemetry and other security and privacy issues 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:35.160 that plague both Windows and Apple. I believe open source 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:38.479 is the better option. Unless one must use specific software 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:42.760 for certain business applications. Your thoughts, uh, well, I will 1:24:42.760 --> 1:24:44.840 tell you my thoughts and I'll talk. I'll defer to 1:24:44.880 --> 1:24:48.040 you because I know you're much more linuxy than I am. 1:24:48.120 --> 1:24:50.680 So my thought is that this show is for the 1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:55.280 average person. And in my twenty plus years of experience 1:24:55.280 --> 1:24:57.599 covering technology, I don't know if it's been that long, 1:24:57.640 --> 1:25:00.559 maybe it's been a little bit less. Maybe well being 1:25:00.600 --> 1:25:04.880 in technology obviously, I've used technology myself, so I'm aware 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:08.000 of it. I understand it to a certain extent, but 1:25:08.080 --> 1:25:10.719 it's just not what I'm seeing the average person using, 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:14.479 nor am I pushing it to the average person. Now 1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:17.639 when it comes to open source and my big thing, 1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:19.559 I do love open source stuff. I think it's open 1:25:19.600 --> 1:25:23.600 source software is incredible. I think third party software is incredible, 1:25:23.640 --> 1:25:25.960 like software that runs on all platforms. 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:28.320 So if you listen to this show, you know I. 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:30.679 Give Apple a hard time because Apple stuff is great, 1:25:30.720 --> 1:25:34.280 but it's very much proprietary to Apple, and most other 1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:36.960 tech companies in the world are working to unite the 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:39.920 world with software that works everywhere, and you know, the 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:42.080 Internet itself. If you think, can you imagine if you 1:25:42.120 --> 1:25:44.640 went on a website that just didn't work on a 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:47.519 computer because it wasn't you know, a certain type of computer. 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:50.719 Or you plugged in a phone to an old school 1:25:50.760 --> 1:25:53.040 like you know, Jack and it just didn't work because 1:25:53.080 --> 1:25:55.680 it wasn't the right kind of phone, you know. So 1:25:56.120 --> 1:25:58.720 that's the kind of stuff that I do understand. But 1:25:58.760 --> 1:26:01.280 I don't think the average person to me is looking 1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:03.599 to use Linux or adopt it in a big way. 1:26:03.840 --> 1:26:07.559 I have nothing against it, justin what do you say? Yeah, 1:26:07.600 --> 1:26:11.640 so I have used Linux a lot. I use it professionally. 1:26:13.479 --> 1:26:16.760 Linux as a desktop, which is sounds like what you're 1:26:16.800 --> 1:26:19.160 talking about is is a thing, right. I Mean, there's 1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:22.400 Ubuntu and Linux Mint, and they have they have really 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:28.559 user friendly interfaces and they're completely free, but there is 1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:32.040 still a level of technical aptitude that you need in 1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:35.479 order to run these even though they're they're very user friendly, 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:39.120 So which is great. I mean, that's that's what I 1:26:39.200 --> 1:26:41.720 started using years ago when I was working at a 1:26:41.760 --> 1:26:45.879 web design place. Uh. They they got me working on Linux, 1:26:45.960 --> 1:26:47.680 and I just I was like, you know what, I'm 1:26:47.680 --> 1:26:51.439 going full in. I uninstalled Windows from my laptop and 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:56.840 I installed Ubuntu and I didn't stop configuring it for 1:26:56.960 --> 1:26:59.400 the entire time I worked there, and that's the fun 1:26:59.439 --> 1:27:00.920 of it. That is the fun of it. Sure, it 1:27:01.080 --> 1:27:02.600 kind of like reminds you of Android. When I was 1:27:02.600 --> 1:27:04.720 putting like ROMs on my phone, It's like I was 1:27:04.720 --> 1:27:06.600 ever happy with it. I just kept like tweaking and 1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:08.760 tweaking and tweaking. And I think that's what people like 1:27:08.800 --> 1:27:11.200 about the Apple side of things, is that you don't 1:27:11.200 --> 1:27:13.200 have to think about that stuff like Apple thinks about 1:27:13.240 --> 1:27:15.240 it all for you. So I think that there's a 1:27:15.280 --> 1:27:17.320 world that exists where these things can work and they 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:19.920 can happen. But like at the end of the day, 1:27:19.439 --> 1:27:22.120 my show, what I do on TV, what I do 1:27:22.200 --> 1:27:25.240 on the radio is trying to reach an average person 1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:28.559 of average aptitude, that is just trying to get things 1:27:28.560 --> 1:27:31.120 at work. And if it doesn't, you know, they're gonna 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:32.040 come emailing me more. 1:27:32.080 --> 1:27:35.240 So thank you. Next question. Let's go to the next question. 1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:39.080 Sure. So we have Kim from Kay Smith Interiors and 1:27:39.120 --> 1:27:42.639 she writes in saying, Hi, Rich, love your show. I'm 1:27:42.640 --> 1:27:45.080 writing on behalf of my boss. At the end of 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:48.679 most jobs we have professional photography done. Some are posted 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:53.439 on How's Yeah that's how website. I've stumbled upon that site. 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:56.799 Before this week we found a photo of our client's 1:27:56.960 --> 1:28:01.120 entry on Amazon. They're selling several chandeliers using our clients 1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:05.720 entryway photo with different light fixtures photoshopped in how do 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:08.760 we have Do we have any recourse here? Given this 1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:13.799 exact photo was on How's Thank You in advance? Good question, 1:28:13.920 --> 1:28:16.680 of course, this is the web. People take stuff all 1:28:16.720 --> 1:28:19.200 the time. It is tough. We're seeing this with AI 1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:21.719 where it's just grabbing, you know, photos on the web 1:28:21.760 --> 1:28:25.360 and using it to regurgitate new photos. So I think 1:28:25.400 --> 1:28:27.360 it's again a game of whack a mole, like I 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:30.280 mentioned with the data stuff. But it is Amazon. It 1:28:30.320 --> 1:28:32.320 is a company that's selling stuff, and nobody should be 1:28:32.320 --> 1:28:35.400 taking your photo without your permission. So if you look 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:38.360 on an Amazon product listing, there is a tiny link 1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:41.880 that says report an issue with this product or seller. 1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:46.080 Use the control F on your computer find report this 1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:49.439 reporting issue, click that link and then say, hey, look 1:28:49.640 --> 1:28:52.400 this is my picture. Why is this listing using my picture? 1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:55.720 And it's probably some third party listing that's just you know, 1:28:55.840 --> 1:28:58.800 grabbing stuff off the web and using it. So that's 1:28:58.840 --> 1:29:01.200 the best you can do. But yeah, if you put 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:03.639 it on the web, chances are someone's going to steal 1:29:03.640 --> 1:29:05.559 it and use it for their own good Yeah, and 1:29:05.560 --> 1:29:07.559 I think I think I'll come up against the break 1:29:08.800 --> 1:29:10.639 Yeah yeah, yeah, like ten seconds. 1:29:10.680 --> 1:29:10.920 Sure. 1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:13.360 Something else that might help is adding a water mark. 1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:16.920 So add a watermark to your images to help track 1:29:16.960 --> 1:29:17.720 them down a little bit. 1:29:17.760 --> 1:29:18.599 All right, good advice. 1:29:18.640 --> 1:29:20.000 All right, coming up, we're going to talk to you 1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:23.840 Derek Ting, co founder and CEO of text Now. This 1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:28.679 is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:32.120 Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Joining 1:29:32.120 --> 1:29:36.479 me now, Derek Ting, CEO and co founder of text Now. 1:29:36.760 --> 1:29:38.080 Derek, thanks so much for joining me. 1:29:38.640 --> 1:29:39.920 Thanks for having me Rich. 1:29:40.400 --> 1:29:43.400 Well, I'm very excited to talk to you because text 1:29:43.439 --> 1:29:46.840 now has a new free Essential Data plan which lets 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:49.439 you get free essential data on your smartphone. But first, 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:52.000 before we get to that, just explain to me what 1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:53.759 text now is all about. 1:29:54.840 --> 1:29:55.080 Yeah. 1:29:55.160 --> 1:29:59.120 Text now is about free phone service through an app. 1:30:00.000 --> 1:30:05.799 So we created a free phone service where you can 1:30:06.560 --> 1:30:09.000 go to the app store, Play Store, search for text Now, 1:30:09.280 --> 1:30:12.479 you down or app and in a few simple steps 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:17.080 you get a free phone line that's ad supported, and 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:21.880 then if you pay five dollars for a SIM card, 1:30:21.920 --> 1:30:23.720 we ship a sim car to your door, and then 1:30:24.040 --> 1:30:27.040 the app will also work without Wi Fi and get 1:30:27.120 --> 1:30:28.840 nationwide five D coverage. 1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:30.120 It's like two levels. 1:30:30.200 --> 1:30:32.120 The first is you could just download the app, get 1:30:32.120 --> 1:30:34.559 a free phone number, text with friends and family, make 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:37.280 phone calls. Or you can pay that five dollars to 1:30:37.320 --> 1:30:39.640 get a physical sim that you can put in your 1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:43.280 phone and actually kind of unlock some more features, which 1:30:43.320 --> 1:30:47.040 is free calling and texting and also some other stuff, 1:30:47.280 --> 1:30:50.040 but through you know, a five G network like a 1:30:50.080 --> 1:30:54.040 regular cellular plan, but minus the monthly fee exactly exactly. 1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:58.559 And then our goal isn't to just be another app 1:30:58.600 --> 1:31:02.759 on your phone, like our goal is to help people 1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:08.160 cut the cord from their expensive wireless carrier and not 1:31:08.320 --> 1:31:12.439 have to pay high monthly phone bills. That's where that's 1:31:12.600 --> 1:31:13.799 the aim of our service. 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:15.880 So how'd you come up with this? What made you 1:31:15.960 --> 1:31:16.960 create text Now? 1:31:17.520 --> 1:31:18.320 It started when we. 1:31:18.360 --> 1:31:19.280 Were in college. 1:31:20.040 --> 1:31:24.679 I got tired of paying AT and T twenty bucks 1:31:24.720 --> 1:31:28.559 a month for calling, twenty bucks a month for data, 1:31:28.760 --> 1:31:31.000 and then another twenty bucks a month for texting. So 1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:36.240 actually started from a pet project in college where we 1:31:36.320 --> 1:31:40.080 want to make an app to make texting free. We 1:31:40.120 --> 1:31:43.400 didn't want to pay for texting, and then what we 1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:46.080 realized was a lot of people use their app not 1:31:46.400 --> 1:31:48.599 just to make texting free, but they were actually using 1:31:48.720 --> 1:31:52.200 our app instead of paying for phone service. So then 1:31:52.280 --> 1:31:55.360 that got us obsessed with the idea of how can 1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:59.000 we figure out how to make phone service free? And 1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:01.840 then it's snowball from there and so ever since then 1:32:01.920 --> 1:32:05.639 we've made texting free, but we also figure out how 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:08.960 to make calling free, and then now we've made a 1:32:09.000 --> 1:32:09.760 free data plan. 1:32:10.360 --> 1:32:13.280 What's the catch, you say, ad supported, What does that 1:32:13.439 --> 1:32:14.320 mean exactly? 1:32:14.800 --> 1:32:18.360 Yeah, so there's no catch, but it's a little different 1:32:18.479 --> 1:32:24.240 from the traditional wireless plan model. So we are phone 1:32:24.280 --> 1:32:26.840 service through an app. So think of us as any 1:32:26.920 --> 1:32:32.960 other free internet service that you use, like Facebook or 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:39.080 Spotify or YouTube where you see some ads in the app. 1:32:39.400 --> 1:32:42.559 So we deliver phone service through an apps instead of 1:32:42.600 --> 1:32:47.439 going to a phone store and waiting for an hour 1:32:47.560 --> 1:32:51.080 for them to get your phone working. We're phone service 1:32:51.120 --> 1:32:53.960 through an app. So you download our app and then 1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:56.080 you get phone service from the app. What that means 1:32:56.160 --> 1:32:59.439 is you text through app, you call through her app, 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:04.080 and then while you do that, there are some ads 1:33:04.120 --> 1:33:08.320 in the experience, but they're not intrusive. At all, and 1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:14.720 then we get advertisers to sponsor the free service and 1:33:14.800 --> 1:33:16.320 that helps people save money. 1:33:17.400 --> 1:33:19.360 So let's talk about this new plan. 1:33:19.479 --> 1:33:23.040 This is free essential data, and so can you explain 1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:25.519 what that plan is? So you get the simcard for 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:28.519 your phone. I've tried this. I popped it into my phone, 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:32.240 download the app. It finds a five G signal, and 1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:34.080 of course you can make your calls, you can do 1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:36.559 the text just like you could regularly. But now you're 1:33:36.560 --> 1:33:40.040 also adding some free data into the mix that you 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:41.519 can use for certain apps. 1:33:42.000 --> 1:33:43.000 Explain that part. 1:33:43.240 --> 1:33:43.479 Yeah. 1:33:43.520 --> 1:33:47.240 The idea is that we want to give people maximum 1:33:47.320 --> 1:33:52.479 flexibility and more ways for them to save money from 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:57.040 their phone bill. And then so we identified these apps 1:33:57.080 --> 1:34:02.160 that people use a lot that we can afford to 1:34:02.280 --> 1:34:05.040 give for free. So then we create a free data 1:34:05.040 --> 1:34:08.200 plan where you could just use the essential apps and 1:34:08.240 --> 1:34:15.400 it's free. So it's email, it's maps, it's transportation. We're 1:34:15.439 --> 1:34:18.519 able to figure out how to make those apps like 1:34:18.640 --> 1:34:21.760 free and like a free data plan, so then we 1:34:23.000 --> 1:34:26.639 so then when you can't pay, you still have these 1:34:26.680 --> 1:34:29.160 apps you can use when you're on the go, and 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:31.880 then when you can pay, you can upgrade to the 1:34:31.880 --> 1:34:36.000 full data plan. But the idea is you don't have 1:34:36.080 --> 1:34:39.320 to pay for what you don't need. And also if 1:34:39.360 --> 1:34:43.280 you are in a tight financial situation, you still have 1:34:43.400 --> 1:34:46.640 phone service. It's reliable and you can access all the 1:34:46.800 --> 1:34:49.400 essential things you need to get access to. 1:34:49.920 --> 1:34:52.439 So if I'm paying, if I paid that five dollars 1:34:52.479 --> 1:34:55.400 to get the simcard, I would have access to free calling, 1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:59.280 free texting. I could also check my email wherever I am. 1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:01.760 I could check Google Maps wherever I am. I could 1:35:01.760 --> 1:35:04.120 get an uber if I needed it, or you know, 1:35:04.280 --> 1:35:07.120 and those are just example apps. You do have various 1:35:07.160 --> 1:35:10.559 apps in those categories like you mentioned. And then of 1:35:10.560 --> 1:35:13.000 course I can connect to Wi Fi to get data, 1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:15.120 you know, if I'm out and about. But you also 1:35:15.200 --> 1:35:18.519 have these kind of data one off plans where you 1:35:18.560 --> 1:35:20.800 can get data for an hour, you can get data 1:35:20.920 --> 1:35:23.000 for a day, you can get data for a month. 1:35:23.120 --> 1:35:25.000 What we do know what's common with most people is 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:27.320 there and Wi Fi most of the time, and then 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:29.599 they're paying for these expensive data plans when they don't 1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:32.040 need to, and we're able to help them save a 1:35:32.080 --> 1:35:32.639 lot of money. 1:35:32.960 --> 1:35:35.360 How long have you been doing this with text now. 1:35:35.520 --> 1:35:38.120 We've been doing it since I was in college. So 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:41.960 twenty ten. We've been at it for a while. Yeah, 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:45.600 what's really exciting is that we started off what's the 1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:48.599 simple goal of just not having to pay for texting, 1:35:49.000 --> 1:35:52.120 and then now we're at a point where like text 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:55.519 now can replace your entire phone plan, you don't need to. 1:35:55.520 --> 1:35:56.479 Pay for a phone plan. 1:35:57.080 --> 1:36:02.320 And every day goes on, we're adding more to our 1:36:02.360 --> 1:36:06.479 free service, and we envision a future where just the 1:36:06.520 --> 1:36:09.120 free service just keeps getting better and better. And then 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:12.479 there's we're like the only phone company that's trying to 1:36:12.520 --> 1:36:14.760 find ways to charge people less, not find ways to 1:36:14.840 --> 1:36:18.519 charge people more. And that's exciting because we're approaching a 1:36:18.560 --> 1:36:22.320 future where phone service can be completely this thing that 1:36:22.400 --> 1:36:24.559 no one has to pay for, and that's very exciting. 1:36:25.120 --> 1:36:26.960 So who do you think your service is for. 1:36:27.520 --> 1:36:32.760 It's for consumers, it's for small businesses that don't want 1:36:32.800 --> 1:36:36.960 to overpay for phone service that definitely have better use 1:36:37.520 --> 1:36:41.000 for their money besides over paying for phone service. And 1:36:41.640 --> 1:36:47.439 the average household spends two k a year on phone service, 1:36:48.280 --> 1:36:52.080 which is a lot of money. And if we can 1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:56.120 help families put more money in their pocket, ninety nine 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:59.479 percent of them have some better use for it that 1:36:59.520 --> 1:37:00.559 benefit their family. 1:37:00.720 --> 1:37:03.000 So tell me about some of these add on costs. 1:37:03.080 --> 1:37:05.519 Because we talked about the data plans. I also noticed 1:37:05.520 --> 1:37:07.880 inside the app, you know, you can park your phone 1:37:07.920 --> 1:37:11.320 number for a couple extra bucks. You can receive you know, 1:37:11.840 --> 1:37:15.320 one time authorization codes like two factor authentication codes like 1:37:15.560 --> 1:37:17.800 are there any limitations that you think people should be 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:19.840 aware of and the fees that people should be aware 1:37:19.840 --> 1:37:20.960 of before they get into this. 1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:24.160 Yeah, we try to make it as simple as possible. 1:37:24.560 --> 1:37:27.439 We have our free tier, which is like you get 1:37:27.520 --> 1:37:31.200 always free tier, always get free talk through text, free 1:37:31.320 --> 1:37:36.040 Central Data. And then we do have some Alkhart options 1:37:36.160 --> 1:37:39.200 in case people don't want to pay the bundles, they 1:37:39.240 --> 1:37:43.000 can do things alakarte. So we have options for people 1:37:43.160 --> 1:37:47.000 to lock in their number. For example, on the free service, 1:37:47.640 --> 1:37:50.960 if you don't use your number for a month, then 1:37:51.200 --> 1:37:54.760 we have to give the phone number to someone else. 1:37:54.800 --> 1:37:57.200 But if you pay five bucks, we can lock in 1:37:57.240 --> 1:37:59.559 your numbers. So these are examples of some ala Caharte 1:37:59.720 --> 1:38:03.040 things people can can buy. And then also if we 1:38:03.080 --> 1:38:05.960 don't like ads, there's option to remove ads for ten 1:38:06.000 --> 1:38:09.599 bucks a month, and then more and more more more 1:38:09.720 --> 1:38:13.960 more commonly, if the free Central Data plan you need 1:38:14.000 --> 1:38:16.360 more than the free Central Data plan. You can get 1:38:16.720 --> 1:38:19.719 these data passes. So for an hour is a dollar. 1:38:19.960 --> 1:38:23.280 For a day it's five dollars. And then we offer 1:38:23.920 --> 1:38:27.000 an unlimited data plan for forty bucks a month if 1:38:27.040 --> 1:38:28.439 you want unlimited for the whole month. 1:38:28.760 --> 1:38:30.160 Can you give me an idea of how many people 1:38:30.200 --> 1:38:31.080 are using the service? 1:38:31.680 --> 1:38:37.960 Yeah, we have over ten million unique visitors, unique customers 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:40.360 that use text now a month, and then in the 1:38:40.439 --> 1:38:44.840 given day, we have over two million unique people that 1:38:45.040 --> 1:38:45.720 use text Now. 1:38:46.080 --> 1:38:49.680 Direkting of text now dot com, thanks so much for 1:38:49.760 --> 1:38:50.439 joining me today. 1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:53.640 Thanks so much for having me Rich. Pleasure talking to you. 1:38:54.000 --> 1:38:56.280 Really appreciate it. You can find a link to text 1:38:56.280 --> 1:38:58.519 now on my website. Just go to rich on Tech 1:38:58.720 --> 1:39:02.120 dot TV. Rich on Tech coming your way right after this. 1:39:17.160 --> 1:39:19.639 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:23.040 out with you, talking technology. Closing out the show. Three 1:39:23.120 --> 1:39:27.360 hours always go by so fast. We've been playing New 1:39:27.439 --> 1:39:31.479 Jersey music all show long to celebrate the fact that, yes, 1:39:31.680 --> 1:39:34.280 I have been visiting New Jersey, hanging out friends and 1:39:34.320 --> 1:39:36.599 family and also New York City. One of the best 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:37.960 things I did when I went to New York City 1:39:38.080 --> 1:39:39.880 was dragging my family. 1:39:40.000 --> 1:39:42.800 To a hot dog cart. They did not want to go. 1:39:43.600 --> 1:39:44.680 But I found. 1:39:44.360 --> 1:39:46.479 This this YouTube where I like that does all the 1:39:46.520 --> 1:39:49.440 New York City stuff here. We bar definitely follow him. 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:52.599 He mentioned that he likes this guy up on ninety 1:39:52.680 --> 1:39:55.080 third in Central Park West. He's been there for thirty 1:39:55.160 --> 1:39:58.200 years selling these can I say dirty water dog? Is 1:39:58.200 --> 1:40:00.200 that like a mean thing to say? That's just makes 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:04.760 it sound better. Greek immigrant and the guy we went 1:40:04.840 --> 1:40:07.280 up there. My family did not want to go on 1:40:07.320 --> 1:40:09.240 the subway and ride all the way up there, and 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:09.679 I said. 1:40:09.600 --> 1:40:11.760 Let's just go. Let's just go. We get there. 1:40:11.840 --> 1:40:13.800 It was the best experience of New York City. The 1:40:13.840 --> 1:40:19.479 guy was so nice. Billy's called Billy's Dogs, and the 1:40:19.880 --> 1:40:21.120 experience was just great. 1:40:21.160 --> 1:40:23.200 And the dogs, by the way, two bucks. 1:40:24.840 --> 1:40:28.240 Anything for two dollars nothing, that's that's my brother justin. 1:40:28.280 --> 1:40:31.479 By the way, James rode in and said on the 1:40:31.600 --> 1:40:34.120 radio program today, your brother sounds just like you. As 1:40:34.160 --> 1:40:37.880 I listen, I cannot differentiate between the two voices. Just 1:40:37.920 --> 1:40:41.479 a fun little fact from Jim and Dana point. William 1:40:41.560 --> 1:40:44.280 rode in while we talked about Android versus iPhone. He said, 1:40:44.280 --> 1:40:46.320 I would love to know why you your brother and 1:40:46.439 --> 1:40:50.360 others feel it's okay to use an Android operating system 1:40:50.439 --> 1:40:53.960 products that was basically started by theft from Apple. I 1:40:53.960 --> 1:40:57.360 don't patronize any company who steals, and you shouldn't neither. 1:40:58.840 --> 1:41:00.320 I don't know if I agree with that. I think 1:41:01.240 --> 1:41:03.479 what they steal exactly, I don't know. I'm not really 1:41:03.560 --> 1:41:07.640 sure I think that. Yeah, everything's in iteration anyway. All right, 1:41:07.720 --> 1:41:09.640 let's get to one more question before we have to 1:41:09.640 --> 1:41:12.160 close out the show with the feedback segment. Oh right, 1:41:12.240 --> 1:41:15.680 So we have Terry who wrote in saying, I'm just 1:41:15.760 --> 1:41:18.360 your average seventy four year old lady who loves to 1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:21.280 dabble in doodle. I have the newest iPad pro and 1:41:21.280 --> 1:41:25.000 an Apple Pencil Pro. Can you recommend a good free 1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:27.880 sketching drawing app with the ability to attach photos and 1:41:27.920 --> 1:41:31.080 other graphics? She tried using free Form but found it 1:41:31.160 --> 1:41:33.960 unfriendly and can't find a way to save as JPEG 1:41:34.000 --> 1:41:38.840 only PDF files, So thanks in advance. Okay, she said free, 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:41.200 which is the key word. Everyone wants everything for free. 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:43.599 And I understand that, Terry, because you're just dabbling, right. 1:41:44.840 --> 1:41:47.559 But I just did a segment with Apple about their 1:41:47.600 --> 1:41:50.519 Apple Camp for Kids, and they were using Pages, which 1:41:50.560 --> 1:41:52.840 is something I would like never think to use on 1:41:52.880 --> 1:41:55.640 an iPad because I generally just delete all those programs. 1:41:55.840 --> 1:41:56.439 But it does. 1:41:56.360 --> 1:41:58.639 Exactly what you want. It works with the Apple pencil, 1:41:59.000 --> 1:42:01.880 works on the iPad. You can attach photos, you can 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:05.799 attach graphics. I assume you can export as a JPEG. 1:42:05.840 --> 1:42:08.599 I mean I would assume that. I think that's gonna 1:42:08.600 --> 1:42:11.360 work one hundred percent for free. So download Apple Pages 1:42:11.400 --> 1:42:13.479 and try it out. The other two apps I recommend 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:18.840 Sketchbook and pro Create. Sketchbook might have like a freemium 1:42:18.960 --> 1:42:20.800 version of it, and pro Create, I know, is a 1:42:20.840 --> 1:42:23.360 one time fee, but a lot of people love pro Create. 1:42:23.680 --> 1:42:25.559 It might be too much for what you need, justin 1:42:25.680 --> 1:42:30.080 what do you think? Yeah, I use something on my computer. 1:42:30.360 --> 1:42:31.920 I don't know. I'm not sure if this is actually 1:42:31.960 --> 1:42:37.599 supported on iPad, but it's called photop dot com Photo 1:42:37.720 --> 1:42:42.160 p EA, and it's a Photoshop clone. It looks just 1:42:42.200 --> 1:42:43.920 like Photoshop. You can do everything you can do with 1:42:44.439 --> 1:42:47.000 that you can do in Photoshop in this app. It's great. 1:42:47.400 --> 1:42:50.080 Definitely check it out. And if you can't sketch with it, 1:42:50.120 --> 1:42:54.840 which I believe you can, you can certainly go ahead 1:42:54.840 --> 1:42:59.040 and edit your sketches and add embellishments to them. So 1:42:59.439 --> 1:43:02.120 check that out. Okay, wow, that looks like how do 1:43:02.160 --> 1:43:03.439 you know it's not called photo pia? 1:43:04.200 --> 1:43:04.439 Yeah? 1:43:04.439 --> 1:43:05.160 I'm not sure. 1:43:05.200 --> 1:43:07.840 Actually okay, I was calling it that for a while 1:43:07.880 --> 1:43:09.760 and then someone said photo pi, So I don't know. 1:43:09.920 --> 1:43:13.160 Try out. Vincent into Hunga, California, wrote in and said, 1:43:13.160 --> 1:43:15.519 my friend has a hard time reading his text messages. 1:43:15.640 --> 1:43:17.840 Is there any way for the phone to read them 1:43:17.880 --> 1:43:20.719 out loud for him? He has an Android? Uh yes, 1:43:20.840 --> 1:43:24.240 there is a feature, an accessibility feature called select to Speak. 1:43:24.280 --> 1:43:26.160 Did you know about this? I did not. 1:43:26.320 --> 1:43:28.880 I'm telling you if you look in the accessibility section 1:43:29.000 --> 1:43:31.719 of the settings on your on your phone iPhone or Android, 1:43:31.760 --> 1:43:34.320 there are so many hidden features that can help you 1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:36.360 use your phone, especially if you have any sort of 1:43:37.160 --> 1:43:39.519 you know, a varying ability. This one's a really great one. 1:43:39.560 --> 1:43:42.080 So I tried it on Android. Works perfectly. Once you 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:44.680 turn it on, you tap anything on your screen and 1:43:44.720 --> 1:43:46.200 it will just read it out loud to you. And 1:43:46.240 --> 1:43:50.160 it's really good to get. Yeah, it's called select to Speak. 1:43:50.200 --> 1:43:51.800 All right, Do you have one more before we get 1:43:51.800 --> 1:43:52.400 to the feedback? 1:43:52.640 --> 1:43:52.840 Uh? 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:53.200 Yeah? 1:43:53.280 --> 1:43:57.759 Yeah? So Sam from Fort Collins Colorado rights in I've 1:43:58.040 --> 1:44:00.400 I've had Yahoo forever, and I'm glad to here they're 1:44:00.439 --> 1:44:03.880 doing some updating. I receive many spam emails every day, 1:44:04.280 --> 1:44:09.360 mostly most recently offering free awards that require completing surveys. 1:44:09.960 --> 1:44:13.720 He's tried unsubscribing from each one, which takes forever, and 1:44:13.800 --> 1:44:16.000 he recently started blocking emails. Is there a better way 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:17.840 to get rid of all these spam emails? 1:44:18.080 --> 1:44:19.360 All right, I'll let you go first. 1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:22.320 What do you think? So my number one thing is 1:44:22.400 --> 1:44:24.240 to switch to Gmail if you can. 1:44:24.439 --> 1:44:25.519 Okay, he doesn't want to do that. 1:44:25.560 --> 1:44:27.720 I guarantee you sure you get all of his emails 1:44:27.720 --> 1:44:30.760 in Yahoo. Yeah, and I totally understand that. I get it. 1:44:32.000 --> 1:44:34.840 There's something you could do called plus addressing, which is 1:44:35.040 --> 1:44:36.559 a lot of times when you sign up for something, 1:44:36.560 --> 1:44:38.960 you make a new account somewhere, they sell your data, 1:44:39.479 --> 1:44:41.840 which includes your email address, to advertisers, and then you 1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:46.160 start getting spam emails. If you add a plus symbol 1:44:46.200 --> 1:44:49.280 at the end of your address, like say it's sam 1:44:49.479 --> 1:44:54.920 plus website at yahoo dot com, you will see that 1:44:54.960 --> 1:44:57.599 when you get all these emails coming to you from 1:44:57.640 --> 1:45:00.400 that plus address, you'll see where you wrote it from. 1:45:00.800 --> 1:45:03.759 So it's definitely. That's something that I use for almost 1:45:03.760 --> 1:45:05.400 every website right now, and you can see if any 1:45:05.400 --> 1:45:07.720 spam is coming from a website that you signed up for. Now, 1:45:07.760 --> 1:45:11.000 I'm looking at some support online. I don't know if 1:45:11.080 --> 1:45:13.720 Yahoo supports the plus, so be sure to check to 1:45:13.760 --> 1:45:17.920 see if your email provider supports it, but they might 1:45:18.040 --> 1:45:21.760 also they might also support temporary email addresses, so if 1:45:21.800 --> 1:45:23.880 you just need there's also a website. I think it's 1:45:23.880 --> 1:45:25.960 called ten Minute Mail. Have you heard of that one? 1:45:26.200 --> 1:45:29.400 So ten minute Mail. You go to this website and 1:45:29.439 --> 1:45:33.840 it basically gives you a ten minute email address, so 1:45:33.920 --> 1:45:35.720 you can go on there and it gives you this 1:45:35.840 --> 1:45:39.920 random email address and basically once you do that, let's 1:45:39.920 --> 1:45:42.439 see here, you've got a countdown of ten minutes, and 1:45:42.479 --> 1:45:45.120 you see this email address, just some random email address. 1:45:45.160 --> 1:45:47.640 You can put that in and then the email that 1:45:47.720 --> 1:45:50.320 you get will arrive on the website. So if you 1:45:50.400 --> 1:45:52.719 just want to sign up, I also use duck dot com, 1:45:52.760 --> 1:45:55.280 so I've I guess I can say that the email 1:45:55.320 --> 1:45:56.439 I have I don't know if I should say it, 1:45:56.439 --> 1:45:58.439 but I have an email address at duck dot com. 1:45:58.640 --> 1:46:00.360 You can put that in there and that it's another 1:46:00.479 --> 1:46:04.000 kind of temporary disposable email address. My rule of thumb 1:46:04.040 --> 1:46:08.200 when it comes to spam, unsubscribe to anything, be brutal anything. 1:46:08.280 --> 1:46:10.240 Let's say you just signed up for like home Details, 1:46:10.720 --> 1:46:14.000 home depots, ten ten percent off or whatever. Right, just 1:46:14.040 --> 1:46:17.400 as soon as you get that coupon, unsubscribed. Scribe legitimate emails, 1:46:17.439 --> 1:46:19.920 you can unsubscribe. It's the emails that come in as spam. 1:46:19.960 --> 1:46:22.439 Do not open them, do not unsubscribe, do not click 1:46:22.479 --> 1:46:25.559 any links, delete them immediately. All right, let's get back. 1:46:25.640 --> 1:46:28.400 Let's get to the feedback. This is your feedback plus 1:46:28.439 --> 1:46:32.479 the mail bag. Susan from California rights in, we watch 1:46:32.479 --> 1:46:34.920 you every day on TV. You're so informed and seem 1:46:34.960 --> 1:46:37.800 to be a really nice guy. Where your grandparents' age? 1:46:37.800 --> 1:46:42.639 So we need trustworthy information. Thank you, Susan. Natalie writes, 1:46:43.000 --> 1:46:45.320 love your TV segments, but they're often too short. I'm 1:46:45.320 --> 1:46:47.840 subscribed to the website. A friend ask chat GBT to 1:46:47.880 --> 1:46:50.120 write a song about being human. I'll figure out a 1:46:50.120 --> 1:46:53.160 way to send the lyrics to you. Crazy interesting as expected. 1:46:53.720 --> 1:46:56.000 Steve writes in I learn from you when I listen 1:46:56.080 --> 1:46:58.960 on the radio and when I read your emails. I'm 1:46:59.000 --> 1:47:00.960 not a Channel five watch, but I do record your 1:47:01.000 --> 1:47:05.040 appearances on my DVR. And finally, a listener writes in, 1:47:05.120 --> 1:47:07.240 I am an older person trying to keep up with 1:47:07.280 --> 1:47:11.120 your ever changing tech information. Your TV and radio segments 1:47:11.200 --> 1:47:13.920 keep me in the loop and knowledgeable. You always provide clear, 1:47:14.000 --> 1:47:16.360 easy to understand, and learner friendly information that I can 1:47:16.400 --> 1:47:19.679 actually use. Your enthusiasm for tech and problem solving keeps 1:47:19.720 --> 1:47:21.920 me interested in sharing what I learned. I wish you 1:47:21.920 --> 1:47:23.519 wrote a name in because I'd love to thank you. 1:47:23.880 --> 1:47:27.120 But thank you Justin, thanks for being on, Thanks for 1:47:27.160 --> 1:47:30.439 having me. That's my brother, Justin Demiro. That's going to 1:47:30.479 --> 1:47:32.360 do it for this episode of the show. You can 1:47:32.360 --> 1:47:34.600 find links to everything I mentioned on my website. Just 1:47:34.640 --> 1:47:36.920 go to rich on tech dot TV. You can find 1:47:36.960 --> 1:47:39.439 me on social media. I am at rich on Tech. 1:47:39.600 --> 1:47:43.519 Next week I'll take you to Vigcon twenty twenty four 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:46.519 that's happening in Anaheim. Thank you so much for listening. 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:48.320 There are so many ways you can spend your time. 1:47:48.400 --> 1:47:50.800 I really appreciate you spending it right here with me. 1:47:51.439 --> 1:47:54.280 Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible, especially complex 1:47:54.320 --> 1:47:58.760 remote shows like this, Kim Bobo, the engineers, everyone, Justin, 1:47:58.920 --> 1:47:59.760 thanks for joining me. 1:48:00.040 --> 1:48:01.760 My name is rich Darmiro. Talk to you real soon. 1:48:01.880 --> 1:48:04.080 Justin I'll give you the last words. 1:48:04.080 --> 1:48:04.719 Did you have fun. 1:48:05.040 --> 1:48:06.760 I had a great time. Thanks for having me on. 1:48:06.960 --> 1:48:08.160 All right, We'll see you next week. 1:48:10.120 --> 1:48:11.559 Mhm