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Speaker 1: I'm Rich dmiro and this is Rich on Tech. This

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Speaker 1: creator of the Apple Design Award winning game black Box.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps you perhaps you've played it on your iPhone and

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Speaker 1: we've got Derek Ting, co founder and CEO of Text.

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Speaker 1: Now he's gonna explain how you can get free calls,

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Speaker 1: free messaging, and even free essential data on your smartphone.

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Speaker 1: Plus I've got a special guest. Well, in case you

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Speaker 1: can't notice, I am literally broadcasting live from my parents'

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Speaker 1: basement in New Jersey. This has been a lifelong dream

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Speaker 1: of mine and here we are. Well, I'm actually kind

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Speaker 1: He had so much fun setting up all the cables

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Speaker 1: all thanks to him and the quick thinking of a

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Speaker 1: just see if DoorDash can bring this from Best Buy

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Speaker 1: And sure enough, I'm not kidding. By the time I

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Speaker 1: So once again technology comes through. It is just an

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Speaker 5: Rich. I'm on an old school, AT and T hookup

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Speaker 1: And nowadays these boxes include both a router which takes

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Speaker 1: that Internet signal and kind of helps figure out where

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Speaker 1: to route things throughout your home. So if you go

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Speaker 1: to a website on your computer, that router will get

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Speaker 1: that information, it will send it back to AT and

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Speaker 1: T or whoever your ISP is, and it will get

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Speaker 1: that website for you, and it will give you that information.

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Speaker 1: But when you're using your own system, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: most of these modern systems that they're giving you include

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Speaker 1: Wi Fi, so that Wi Fi, that same box that's

445
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Speaker 1: also a router also serves as your Wi Fi hub

446
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Speaker 1: and that it emanates this Wi Fi connection that you know,

447
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: sends a signal throughout your house. Now, typically these have

448
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: been pretty low powered in the past. Nowadays, I've seen

449
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: a lot of these companies are actually upgrading to more

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Speaker 1: you know, even a mesh network. Sometimes, like some of

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Speaker 1: these companies, you can even ask for a little satellite

452
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Speaker 1: mesh network, you know, like an extra router or an

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Speaker 1: access point they're called, and they can give them to

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Speaker 1: you as well.

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Speaker 2: But I say skip all that.

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Speaker 1: Go get yourself an euro E E R O system

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Speaker 1: or an ORB. There's so many different brands that are

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Speaker 1: out there that are all pretty good, but you know,

459
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Speaker 1: those are two that I really like. And once you

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Speaker 1: plug it in, it will it will guide you through

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Speaker 1: the setup. And the main thing that you want to

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Speaker 1: do is is definitely turn off the Wi Fi that

463
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Speaker 1: emanates out of that router box that the cable company

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Speaker 1: supplies you. That way you don't have two competing Wi

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Speaker 1: Fi signals throughout your house. And again what I was

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Speaker 1: saying is that the on the bottom of these boxes

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Speaker 1: there's usually a place where you can log into the

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Speaker 1: box and change some settings. Now, before you do that,

469
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Speaker 1: just be warned that, you know, there are a lot

470
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Speaker 1: of settings and they're not very easy to kind of

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Speaker 1: figure out. Sometimes they are, sometimes they're not, so just

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Speaker 1: beware when you go in there that it may take

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Speaker 1: you know, like, just be informed.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is you may not have access to

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Speaker 1: your computer during this time because you're gonna be accessing

477
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Speaker 1: the router itself, and you need to usually plug in

478
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Speaker 1: your computer directly hardlined to that box because you're gonna

479
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Speaker 1: be changing settings on that box. It's gonna restart, it's

480
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Speaker 1: gonna be doing some things. So you want a hard

481
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Speaker 1: connection because if you're not hardwired, as soon as you

482
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Speaker 1: turn off that Wi Fi on that cable box, your

483
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Speaker 1: computer's gonna have no Internet connection. So you need to

484
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Speaker 1: keep all these things in mind before you go and

485
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Speaker 1: change stuff. But when it comes to the access point,

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Speaker 1: I feel like and I really need to kind of

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Speaker 1: school myself in this and see if I actually change

488
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Speaker 1: those settings since it's been so long. But there are

489
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Speaker 1: some settings where you can set it up as a

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Speaker 1: pass through, and that means that the router is saying

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Speaker 1: they're putting their hands up on your router and saying,

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Speaker 1: you know what, We're not doing anything. We're gonna let

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Speaker 1: your new euro handle everything on your network, and we're

494
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Speaker 1: literally just going to be a cable modem that takes

495
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Speaker 1: the signal in and we're gonna give give that signal

496
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Speaker 1: to your Eero, and Ero's gonna serve as both the

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Speaker 1: router and also the Wi Fi and so that's what

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Speaker 1: they're saying when they talk about that pass through mode.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, it's very easy to set up. Most

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Speaker 1: people are just plugging these things into the back of

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Speaker 1: their cable router and it's pretty much plug and play,

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00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: and the app is where it will log you in

503
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Speaker 1: and get you through everything that you need to know

504
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Speaker 1: about how to set this thing up. But again, I

505
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Speaker 1: would check out EURO, I would check out ORB and

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Speaker 1: make sure you have a cable physical cable that you

507
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Speaker 1: can connect your router. And the password and user name

508
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Speaker 1: is usually printed on the bottom of your router as

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Speaker 1: well as the log in which is typically something like

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Speaker 1: a one nine to two dot one six eight number.

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Speaker 2: So if you see that, you type.

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Speaker 1: That into your web browser and you log in with

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Speaker 1: the username and password that's on the bottom of your router,

514
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Speaker 1: that will give you access to these settings on that

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Speaker 1: black box that sits under your TV.

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Speaker 2: Just be careful. You can always reset it back to

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Speaker 2: the factory.

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Speaker 1: There's probably a little pinhole that you can push a

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Speaker 1: paper clip in. If you really mess things up, you

520
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Speaker 1: can always get it back to the factory. Good question,

521
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: and yes, get that Mesh network, because it really does

522
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Speaker 1: make a difference. You will get a signal that's throughout

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Speaker 1: your house. So the way the Mesh network works is

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Speaker 1: that it takes that one signal that you're getting from

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Speaker 1: your router box now it's the EURO and it sends

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Speaker 1: it throughout your home by using these access points that

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Speaker 1: are additionally located throughout your house. You've got the one

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Speaker 1: box under your TV. Now that's the signal coming in

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Speaker 1: from the cable company that goes into your ERO, and

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Speaker 1: then the EERO takes that signal and kind of boomerangs

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Speaker 1: it around your house through the use of these little

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Speaker 1: access points that you place in locations.

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Speaker 2: Throughout your house.

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Speaker 1: So they all work together to blanket your home in

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Speaker 1: Wi Fi versus just imagine one little box that's under

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Speaker 1: your TV. It's crowded under there. The signal is being

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Speaker 1: blocked in a million different ways, and that signal does

538
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Speaker 1: not make its way throughout your house. These eros and

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00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: the similar systems have figured out a way to kind

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Speaker 1: of tune each other specifically to carry that Wi Fi

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Speaker 1: signal and manage it throughout your house, and that's why

542
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: the signal works better. And of course over the years

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Speaker 1: I've been using this since day one. We actually had

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Speaker 1: Nick Weaver, the one of the I think he was

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Speaker 1: the creator of Ero. He kind of came up with

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Speaker 1: this whole concept and made it commercial. He came to

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Speaker 1: KTLA to do an interview, and I'm not gonna joke.

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00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: He was very seem very young at the time. I said,

549
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Speaker 1: you created this new technology and he said, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it kind of revolutionized how we access Wi Fi in

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Speaker 1: our homes. It's because it's gotten so much better thanks

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Speaker 1: to what he did with this idea of a mesh network.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that is what I think you need. I

554
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: think it'll help and I think it'll be a lot better.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks for the question. Eighty eight rich one

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. I promised you the story about how I

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Speaker 1: got on the Wi Fi billboard.

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Speaker 6: In New York City.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you that.

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Speaker 1: Story coming up right here on rich On Tech. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out

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00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one oh

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight seven.

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Speaker 2: Four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: So this week I've been hanging out in New Jersey

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00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: and New York visiting some family, doing some things, and

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Speaker 1: we stayed at this hotel in Times Square that turned

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Speaker 1: out to have this like incredible view of Times Square,

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Speaker 1: Like it's literally at the top of Times Squares, so

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Speaker 1: you have the view of the entire square, which we

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00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: didn't realize until we went to breakfast and wow, oh

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00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: my gosh, what this is. This is wild. So it

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00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: took us a bit to figure this out too. We

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00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: saw the billboards obviously in Times Square, but one of them,

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00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: after like seeing it cycle through the billboard probably one

577
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty times, I realized I was like, wait

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00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: a second. It said something about you can download an

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Speaker 1: app and be on the billboard, and so I said,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. An eighteen thousand square foot billboard

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Speaker 1: at the corner of forty seventh Street and Seventh av

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Speaker 1: in Time Square, about four hundred thousand people see it daily.

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Speaker 1: And you download this app called the TSX app, and

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Speaker 1: you upload a picture, you type in some text whatever

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00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: you want, or you can upload some video and next

586
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: thing you know, you pay a couple of bucks and

587
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: your video or clip or whatever shows up on this

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00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: billboard in Times Square. And so I said, well, of course,

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Speaker 1: I have to do this as the tech guy, right.

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00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: I got to figure out how this works and if

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Speaker 1: it really does work, and how cool it is. So

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Speaker 1: I just took one of the pictures that we took

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Speaker 1: on our trip and it uploaded to the app. I

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Speaker 1: typed in New York City twenty twenty four at rich

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Speaker 1: On Tech and it had some rules as to what

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00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: you can do, what you could say on the billboard.

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00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: Social media handles are allowed, things like QR codes and

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00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: URLs are not allowed. And once you upload it, you

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00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: pick your time where it's gonna appear on the billboard.

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Speaker 1: I picked like seven to fifteen PM, and you pay

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Speaker 1: forty dollars and of course they took Apple pay or

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00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Google pay, so it was very easy to do the

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Speaker 1: entire process. I would say it took me less than

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Speaker 1: a minute. And then someone, obviously a human has to

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Speaker 1: approve what you're doing, because you know, they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to put something up there that's you know, bad,

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00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: And so it was approved and next thing you know,

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00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: it said, okay, your time is seven fifteen pm. Seven

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00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: fifteen is seven to seventeen. So we sat there in

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Speaker 1: the restaurant at the hotel, all of us and we

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Speaker 1: watched our pictures show up on this billboard in Time

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Speaker 1: Square for fifteen seconds, and I got to say, what

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00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: a smart business. By the way, this could be replicated

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Speaker 1: anywhere that there is a large group of people. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure this is just the first of its kind,

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Speaker 1: but this is a very very smart business. I paid

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Speaker 1: forty dollars to have my billboard up in Times Square

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Speaker 1: for fifteen seconds. And by the way, if you want

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Speaker 1: to see it, you can check out my Twitter at

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. I posted the picture of me looking

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Speaker 1: at the picture. I'll also put it on my Instagram

622
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: at rich on Tech. But I thought this was such

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00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: a smart idea.

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Speaker 2: The amount of.

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Speaker 1: Money that they make from these fifteen second clips throughout

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Speaker 1: the day is probably incredible and throughout the year, and

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Speaker 1: it's just a billboard that makes money in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Of course, all billboards make money because they're showing ads,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that this one shows user generated ads

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Speaker 1: is just really really cool. So again, the app is TSX,

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Speaker 1: and I guess it's TSX Entertainment is the company that

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Speaker 1: came up with this brilliant idea. We had a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun, and you know, you saw other people doing

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Speaker 1: it as well. So it's kind of cool to see

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Speaker 1: yourself on a billboard in New York City. And now

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Speaker 1: I can say I've done that all right. Eighty to eight,

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Speaker 1: rich one, oh one, let's take a call here. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to line one. That is Nicole in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Nicole in Los Angeles. You are on with.

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Speaker 7: Rich Hi, thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, what can I help you?

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00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 7: With my Apple MacBook Pro to adath and with display

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00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 7: or doesn't work. I can't get an image. And when

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00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 7: I took it back to Apple, they said it was

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00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 7: going to toss around to hundred dollars. And I purchased

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Speaker 7: this lab.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, I was going to say

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Speaker 1: six hundred bucks. That's how much it costs me. When

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Speaker 1: I got my uh my kid threw a toy at

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Speaker 1: my computer screen and cracked it, and uh, six hundred

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Speaker 1: bucks the price.

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Speaker 2: So go ahead. What's your question whether you should got

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Speaker 2: a new one, should I.

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Speaker 7: Get a new one and my or should I fix it?

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Speaker 7: Or I'm also thinking about getting a Samsung laptop because

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Speaker 7: I didn't use all the all the features that the

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Speaker 7: MacBook Pro had to offer. I'm just not that kind

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Speaker 7: of a.

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Speaker 8: User, it's really just for my leisure. It being a

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Speaker 8: lot of online search emails, that's about the extent of it.

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Speaker 8: I do open up a lot of pages, a lot

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Speaker 8: of web pages all at once, and that's it.

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Speaker 7: I'm not editing. I'm not looking at videos. I don't

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Speaker 7: really watch TV.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about the What do you like

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Speaker 1: about the Samsung versus the like? Are you not liking

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Speaker 1: the MacBook anymore? Do you not like gample?

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Speaker 7: Really? An Android user, I have a fan stung tone,

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Speaker 7: so I kind of like that idea that it's you know,

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Speaker 7: working together. I have STANSTUNGD appliances. But I do have

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Speaker 7: some Apple products, like I have an iPad that I love.

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Speaker 7: You know, I didn't like my MacBook Pro, but again

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Speaker 7: I didn't use already had to offer me, which was fine.

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Speaker 7: I was okay with that, but now that it's broken,

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Speaker 7: I don't necessarily want to pay that price bag again.

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Speaker 1: So I hear you, well, look, I mean I see

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Speaker 1: this in two ways. Number one six hundred dollars solves

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Speaker 1: your problem for another couple of years.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I end up doing.

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Speaker 1: Because of course, anytime you have a repair, you think,

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Speaker 1: do I get a new one, do I you know?

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Speaker 2: Or do I pay for this?

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Speaker 1: So a new computer is going to cost you easily

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Speaker 1: one thousand bucks, right, but it's going to last you

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Speaker 1: at least, you know, four or five six years from today.

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Speaker 1: For that amount of money, the six hundred dollars you're

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Speaker 1: going to spend is going to last you at least.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I'm looking at the Mac os Sequoia

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Speaker 1: because that's how I go by how long your Mac

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Speaker 1: is going to be supported?

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Speaker 2: What your Mac?

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Speaker 1: Do you know?

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Speaker 4: I've purchased it.

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Speaker 1: A little bit, so it's probably probably a twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: MacBook pro Sequoia is going to be compatible with a

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and later. That tells me that you're probably

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Speaker 1: going to get at least two more years of software

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Speaker 1: updates from Apple on this computer, So that three hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars divided by two at a six hundred divided by

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Speaker 1: two is three hundred dollars for the next two years.

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Speaker 1: So I would probably lean towards just repairing this because

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Speaker 1: you've got at least two more years out of it.

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Speaker 1: And then, by the way, it's still worth something that

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Speaker 1: you can sell it for even if it's one hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars or something, versus the new Mac versus the new Samsung, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I will tell you if you have

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Speaker 1: a Samsung phone, I've been testing their Samsung their new

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Speaker 1: Galaxy books, and it is amazing. Like you take a

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Speaker 1: picture on your Samsung phone, it immediately shows up on

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Speaker 1: your Windows computer because it's all in sync like the

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Speaker 1: the just the way the iPhone works with the Max,

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Speaker 1: the Samsung phones work with these Samsung Galaxy Books.

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Speaker 2: So if you really.

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Speaker 1: Want that and you're trying to go for a change,

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Speaker 1: then you know, I say go for the new Galaxy Book.

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Speaker 1: But if you just want to spend the six hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: be done. Your computer, you know, is good to go.

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00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: You've already had it, you're comfortable with it. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: want to just plan a little bit more because we're

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Speaker 1: just seeing these new AI computers come out, so it

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Speaker 1: might be best to maybe wait one cycle on those

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Speaker 1: because I'm all brand new right now. So maybe in

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Speaker 1: the next two years, you just kind of plan for

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Speaker 1: this new Galaxy PC.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I like that. Yeah, I I'll have a problem.

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Speaker 7: Yeah it actually makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, that's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: Just make sure you if you can back up your

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Speaker 1: computer before you send it in, because they may have

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Speaker 1: to wipe the drive in the process of replacing that

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Speaker 1: screen or whatever they do in the repair, So just

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Speaker 1: be aware that you may lose data and if you

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Speaker 1: can't see the screen, you're going to have to figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to mirror the screen or connect your

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Speaker 1: computer to a like a TV screen or something to

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Speaker 1: see the screen while you secure every thing and get.

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Speaker 2: Everything backed up there. All right, thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: the call.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one on one eighty eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Coming up, we got

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Speaker 1: lots more of rich on Tech. I'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: a recall on a portable chargers sold at Costco.

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Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at

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Speaker 1: triple A rich.

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Speaker 2: One oh one.

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Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. The website for the show is richon Tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. If you want to send me an email,

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Speaker 1: you can do it there by hitting contact, or if

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Speaker 1: just hit the light bulb icon. Coming up in this hour,

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot we've got a special guest. The

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Speaker 1: special guest is later on. We've got a guest that

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Speaker 1: is a Apple Design Award winning game creator black Box.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if you've played it on your iPhone. We

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Speaker 1: will talk to Ryan McLoud about that, and later on

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Derek Ting, co founder and CEO of

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Speaker 1: text Now about how you can get free calling and

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Speaker 1: texting on your smartphone and even free data now. If

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Speaker 1: you bought one of these portable chargers at Costco in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, you might want to return it.

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Speaker 1: My charge is recalling five hundred and sixty seven thousand

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Speaker 1: power Hub portable chargers due to fire risk. This is

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Speaker 1: a ten thousand million amp hour portable charger. They got

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Speaker 1: a couple of models affected. There is it's basically a

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Speaker 1: it's tough to read on the radio here, but a

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Speaker 1: zero ten or AO ten FK, Dash A, Dash B

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Speaker 1: and Dash C. These can overheat while charging, posing a

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Speaker 1: fire and risk burn. They were sold at Costco from

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Speaker 1: January twenty twenty two to November twenty twenty three. They

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Speaker 1: cost about forty dollars. You can get a free replacement.

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Speaker 1: So far, there's been one hundred and twenty reports of overheating,

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Speaker 1: including two residential fires with one hundred sixty five dollars

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Speaker 1: reported in property damage. Plus a bunch of these were

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Speaker 1: returned to Costco mentioning various issues. So immediately stop and

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Speaker 1: contact my charge for a replacement. I will put the

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Speaker 1: information on the website rich on tech dot TV. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: another week, another price hike, AT and T raising prices

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Speaker 1: on older unlimited plans starting in August. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: all these price hikes are pushing people to the mv

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Speaker 1: and os mobile virtual network operators like the Mint Mobiles

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Speaker 1: of the world, and the Tings, all these different companies,

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Speaker 1: the Tellos, the let's see what's the other one. I like,

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Speaker 1: there's just so many of them mobile X. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just that people are noticing that their costs are

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Speaker 1: no longer fixed. When you've got a streaming service or

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Speaker 1: your cell phone built.

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Speaker 2: It just keeps going up.

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Speaker 1: AT and T increasing prices on older unlimited plans according

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Speaker 1: to c NEET, starting in August ten dollars a month

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Speaker 1: for single lines, twenty dollars a month for multiple lines.

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Speaker 1: That is significant. Affective plans include various AT and T

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Speaker 1: unlimited options. You can check the cnet article for all

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Speaker 1: of the the plans. Now AT and T is doing

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Speaker 1: something kind of nice. They are going to increase your

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Speaker 1: high speed hot Spot data allowances on these plans. So

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Speaker 1: if you had thirty gigabytes, now you're getting seventy five.

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Speaker 1: If you had sixty gigabytes of hot Spot, now you're

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Speaker 1: getting one hundred. But again, this is the second price

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Speaker 1: hike by AT and T. They raised prices on their

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00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: newer plans by ninety nine cents earlier this year. So again,

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00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: lots of price hikes come in your way from all

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Speaker 1: of these services.

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Speaker 2: All right, eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Let's go to Martin In

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Speaker 1: at Anza California line too. Martin, you are on with

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Speaker 1: Rich Martin?

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Speaker 2: Can I help?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Rich? Thanks? Look taking my call. I was wondering I

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Speaker 4: have an iPhone seven ass and evidently Apples quit updating

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Speaker 4: and supporting this up the fifteen point eight point two

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Speaker 4: or something, So it is just it's an obsolete phone.

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Speaker 1: Uh is it an obsolete phone? Well, I mean you

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Speaker 1: can still use it for other stuff. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: the phone is not going to stop working. It's just

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Speaker 1: not getting software updates, and some of the apps are

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Speaker 1: just going to start barking at.

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Speaker 4: You right right, No security updates, no nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is the problem. I'm trying to scroll

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Speaker 1: through the list and see what's supported here. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: the latest software supports the iPhone ten are and up.

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00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: So if you're looking at the iPhone seven, you're talking

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Speaker 1: iPhone seven, iPhone eight. There was no iPhone nine. Not

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Speaker 1: going to get tripped up on that one again if

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Speaker 1: you've listened to the Phone the Show for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So we went iPhone seven, iPhone eight. So the reality

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Speaker 1: is this phone is already a couple of years out

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Speaker 1: of service. I would say it's probably time to get

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Speaker 1: a new one. Yes, you can still use it, but

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00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: you are putting yourself at risk. You can trade this

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Speaker 1: phone in, you can sell it. There's a website like

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Speaker 1: gizmo Go that I like. You might get a couple

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Speaker 1: of bucks for this. You can also turn it into

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Speaker 1: a security camera. A lot of people like to do

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Speaker 1: that with their old phones. You know, you can download

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Speaker 1: some software and turn it into a security camera. That

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Speaker 1: might be an option, but otherwise I think I think

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Speaker 1: it's time for a new phone. This is this how

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Speaker 1: long do you have this phone?

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Speaker 4: I bought it in twenty eighteen, so it's six years.

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Speaker 4: Is that about the life spanities?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 1: In fact, yeah, so on the iPhone side, the lifespan

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Speaker 1: published is officially about five years. Traditionally, Apple has supported

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Speaker 1: their phones for about six years on the dot. Now

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the Android side of things, the

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Speaker 1: trend that we're seeing there is seven years. So will

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Speaker 1: Apple do seven years? I'm not sure, but Apple has

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Speaker 1: been really good. I know there's a lot of conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theories out there that Apple tries to put these software

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00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: updates out there just to ruin your phone. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's the case. I think that software is getting

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00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: better and better and better. It requires more horsepower. And

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Speaker 1: if everyone's using an iPhone seven, that's putting them at

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Speaker 1: risk of you know, viruses and malware and all kinds

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00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: of different things, you know, phishing attempts, all that stuff

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Speaker 1: happening on their phone. If people are if a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are using that, what happens then the experience

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00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: of using that device dwindles and people start complaining to Apple.

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, five six years is a

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Speaker 1: pretty reasonable clip for a phone. If you do the

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Speaker 1: math on those things. So, Martin, what do you what

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Speaker 1: are you thinking about getting?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm thinking of going backwards. Do you know anything

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Speaker 4: about the Nokia twenty seven twenty or twenty seven eighty

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Speaker 4: flip phones.

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Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people are starting to

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Speaker 1: use them, and I have no problem with you going

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Speaker 1: backwards as well. If you're not using the smart features

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00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: on this phone, why not. Your battery is going to

874
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: last a long time. The phone's going to cost you

875
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: under one hundred dollars, and you know you'll still be

876
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: able to text, but it's just going to take you

877
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: a lot longer to text on that phone. But that's

878
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: the major downside. But otherwise, don't retired.

879
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 4: I'm I'm at home, I'm on why Fi. I got

880
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 4: like I have, okay, twenty five dollars a month after

881
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: the discounts from Verizon for a five gigabyte plan and

882
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 4: that's all I need. I don't use three two streak

883
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: gigga guy by in a month on just the outside,

884
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I.

885
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: Mean it sounds to me, It sounds to me like

886
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: you just want to be connected and all you need

887
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: is that phone line, maybe a text or two occasionally

888
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: you're not surfing YouTube on there, you're not surfing the

889
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: web on your phone. But yeah, I think that the

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00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: only thing is you just have to figure out if

891
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: that Nokia is compatible with your Verizon network.

892
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: That's the only thing you'll have to I know the

893
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: twenty seven twenty is. But did you have a add

894
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 4: or some them for dumb Wireless a while back?

895
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we did a segment with them on kJ.

896
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: Twenty that I could get through from them from Verizon

897
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: or go just down to the Verizon store to Meca

898
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: and get to twenty seven twenty. So you know, that's

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00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 4: what I probably do in the meantime until the next

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00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 4: sc comes out, hopefully next year. What is that to

901
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: be the fourth generation?

902
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

903
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Actually, uh, let's see, I was just looking this up

904
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: the iPhone SE. There's there's a new rumor about when

905
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: it's coming out, and the website that I typically go

906
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: to is mac Rumors Buyer's Guide, and if you go there,

907
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: let's see what the rumor is on the SE. So

908
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: it's been eight hundred and thirty seven days since they

909
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: came out with an iPhone SE. Again, this is the

910
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: only iPhone remaining that has that fingerprint reader on it,

911
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, the little touch ID kind of thing. And

912
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: the rumor says that the iPhone SE with face oh

913
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: with face ID, oh no, they're going to get rid

914
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: of that thing, is going to be under five hundred

915
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: dollars and the launch is supposed to be according to

916
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: mac rumors, let's see here. Oh, according to the information

917
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: that mac Rumors is quoting, let's see design similar to

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00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: iPhone fourteen is going to come out in spring of

919
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so you still got a while.

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00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's yeah.

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00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: That's always. They're going to get rid of the home

922
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: button at the bottom of the of the phone like

923
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: on the cheven Ass.

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00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: That's what they're saying here.

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00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: If this rumor is accurate, the iPhone SE would finally

926
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: gain face ID in a notch instead of touch ID

927
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: and a home button. So uh, that will probably be

928
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Apple's least expensive phone when it launches.

929
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, they're saying like fourne or something. So what's

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00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: that mean? Senior edition or.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: I can't it's been so long since that launched. I

933
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: can't remember what officially stood for. I'm not even sure

934
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: it stood for anything. I think the rumor was like

935
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: simple addition, but yeah, you can. You can coin it

936
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: senior editions. I know a lot of people like that,

937
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: like that simplicity of the phone. So Martin, thanks so

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00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: much for the call today. I really appreciate it. And

939
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, upgrade to the downgrade. Why not, right, get

940
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: that flip phone and make life a little bit simpler.

941
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: That's a great thing. Speaking of phones, I have been

942
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: using a five hundred dollars phone throughout my week here

943
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: in New York City and New Jersey. It's the Pixel

944
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: eight A from Google. And I'm telling you, I challenged myself.

945
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I recommended this thing on Katiela.

946
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to use it as my only phone for

947
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: a couple of days throughout the city. And sure enough,

948
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: I am so impressed with this phone. It does everything

949
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: you need for five hundred dollars and it's really good.

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00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, so far we have not seen

951
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: a substantial price drop on this phone. It hasn't gone

952
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: on sale in a big way just yet, but I

953
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: still fully expected to go on sale for anywhere between

954
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty four hundred and fifty three hundred

955
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: and fifty four.

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00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: Hundred fifty dollars.

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00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a really good phone at

958
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: a very inexpensive price, I really still like the Pixel

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00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: eight A.

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Speaker 2: Check out my instagram at rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: All the pictures you see there, a majority of them

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00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: were taken with this Pixel eight A. More rich On

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Speaker 1: Tech coming your way right after this. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you

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00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 1: talking technology at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one

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Speaker 1: zero one. Give me a call if you have a

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Speaker 1: question about technology, you can also email me. Just go

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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech dot tv hit contact. Noel wrote

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00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: me and said, if you really flew one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fourteen thousand hours between Lax and Newark, that's twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: flights at an average of six hours each way. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of flights. Don't get me started on the radiation.

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00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: So my math was a little bit wrong. I looked

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Speaker 1: up in my flighty app to see what it actually is,

976
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: and flight time about three hundred and three hours.

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Speaker 2: That's one way.

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00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: So if you double that, maybe about six hundred hours

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00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: distance one hundred and forty five thousand miles so times

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00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: two three hundred thousand miles. So yes, I've flown between

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00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: Newark and Los Angeles many times since I moved to

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00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: LA for college. And this Flighty app, now, it's not

983
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's one hundred percent accurate because sometimes

984
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: it loops in like friends and family members flights that

985
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: might they might have emailed me. But again, it's a

986
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: lot and it's a cool app. It's a really neat

987
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: app that will kind of tally up all of your

988
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: flying and it finds even your old flights too, So

989
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: if you want to download it, it's only on iOS,

990
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: but it is called Flighty fli gh t y. It

991
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: is really the best app for flying period. It doesn't

992
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: book your flights, it doesn't do anything like that. It

993
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: just helps you track your flights, get on them on time,

994
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: see your baggages, get heads up on delays before they

995
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: even happen. It is and it's all done in a

996
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: very beautiful way. So check it out. Flighty is the

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00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: is the app f l i g h t Y.

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00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: There is a premium upgrade. If you fly a lot,

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00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: then you might want to look into that. Otherwise you

1000
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: can use it for free. Check it out. You won't

1001
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: get all of the features for free, but it's still great.

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00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to line. Let's see here. Where

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Speaker 1: are we Let's go to himI in Torrance, Line one. himI,

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00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: you're on with.

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00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 9: Rich Can I call?

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00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the show. What can I help you with?

1007
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 9: Well, a few months ago you mentioned Q like I

1008
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 9: won't charge your and UH for traveling for travel, but

1009
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 9: I have stated why, and now I need it. I

1010
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 9: was wondering if you have something similar or something better

1011
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 9: or the same ones you can't recommend.

1012
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: Well, are you trying to Are you trying to charge iPhones?

1013
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: Apple stuff or Android? No?

1014
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: Apple?

1015
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so I think.

1016
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: What you're referring to is the Mofi three and one

1017
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: travel charger with mag Safe. So it's kind of expensive.

1018
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and fifty dollars. There may be a

1019
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: cheaper price available if this was a couple months ago

1020
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: that I mentioned it. But what I love about this

1021
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: is that it's simple. It charges your iPhone, Apple Watch,

1022
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: and AirPods all at the same time. It comes in

1023
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: this fabric case. Everything fits in there. It charges the

1024
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: iPhone wirelessly at the maximum speed. But it's it's expensive.

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00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: The other ones I mentioned, twelve South has one called Butterfly,

1026
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: and this is a two in one charger. So this

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00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: this will charge two items at once. It will charge

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00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: an iPhone in an Apple Watch. It will also charge

1029
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: AirPods if you have the wireless charging case, but it

1030
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: just won't do them at the same time.

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00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: You can only choose two items to charge it once.

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00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 9: That one also the first one.

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00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: I'm sorry Mophy M p h I E and so

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00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: I will.

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00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: I will link these up on the website as well,

1036
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: so you can go to rich on tech dot tv

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00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: as soon as I'm as soon as I'm done here,

1038
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: and I will link them up as well. So the

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00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: other one I mentioned was the twelve South and that

1040
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: one is called the Butterfly, and the twelve South Butterfly

1041
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: is a two in one charger. That one's one hundred

1042
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: and thirty dollars and again it will charge those things.

1043
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: It will charge everything you need, it just may not

1044
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: do three that well, won't do three at the same time.

1045
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: That also comes with four wall adapters, so if you

1046
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: are traveling internationally, that's kind of nice because those are

1047
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: all in the box. Another one I mentioned is the

1048
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: STM Goods Charge Tree mag Now, this one's the cheapest

1049
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: out of the bunch. It's one hundred dollars and I

1050
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: love this thing. It charges all three at once. I

1051
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: used to use the old version. This is the new

1052
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: version that has mag Safe, which means pretty much all

1053
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: the modern iPhones or many of the modern iPhones have

1054
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: that magnet ring on the back that will help this

1055
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: to charge very easily and line it up properly and

1056
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. But this one folds up. It's

1057
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: super compact. Again, it's one hundred dollars, so it's the

1058
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: cheapest of the bunch. But the trick here is that

1059
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: it does not come with a wall adapter, so that

1060
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: is sold separately, or maybe you have one at home.

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00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: You need one that's at least twenty watts to get

1062
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: the full charging capacity out of this device. Again, that

1063
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: one is called the STM Goods Charge Tree mag and

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00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: that's one hundred dollars and I've been carrying around for

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00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: a while now. I really love this one because it

1066
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: solves the problem of I don't need an extra charger

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00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: for my Apple Watch. It's called the Belkan Boost Charge Pro.

1068
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: Now it is pricey, it's one hundred dollars, but it's

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00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: a it does a couple of things really well. Number one,

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00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: it's a ten thousand portable battery pack, So that means

1071
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: when you're on the go, you can just plug your

1072
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: phone into this device and it will charge your phone.

1073
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: But it also has a built it's in Apple Watch

1074
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: charger on it, so you never need to bring a

1075
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: separate cable to charge your Apple Watch. Apple has a

1076
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: very proprietary cable for the Apple Watch. It's annoying if

1077
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: you travel a lot, you got to bring it everywhere.

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00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: This boost charge pro means you only have to carry

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Speaker 1: one device, a portable charger, which by the way, I

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00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: recommend everyone carry anyway, and you also have your Apple

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00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: Watch charger so when I get to my hotel room.

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00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: So when I'm on the plane, I charge my phone

1083
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: with the battery bank. Then when I get to a

1084
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: hotel room, I charge the battery bank by plugging it in,

1085
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: and then I just put my Apple Watch on top.

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00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: So everything gets charged up and it's one less thing

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Speaker 1: to carry and it's really really convenient. Again, I will

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Speaker 1: link all of these up on the website. Rich on

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Speaker 1: tech dot TV hit the light Bulb. That's where you'll

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Speaker 1: find the show notes. This week's show is show number

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Speaker 1: seventy seven. So if you want to find links to

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Speaker 1: anything I mentioned here, I just said someone email about

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Speaker 1: the Times Square app.

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Speaker 2: You can find the link on the website as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna talk to Ryan McLoud,

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Speaker 1: creator of the the app called black Box. This is

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Speaker 1: a puzzle game for the iPhone that's coming up right

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Speaker 1: here on rich on Tech.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: We are talking with winners of Apple's Design Awards at

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Speaker 1: WWDC twenty twenty four. This is Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference.

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Speaker 1: These are the apps and games recognized for their excellence

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Speaker 1: in design and technical achievement. Joining me now is Ryan McLoud.

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Speaker 1: He has created an app called black Box. This was

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Speaker 1: originally available on the iPhone. Now it is on Apple

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Speaker 1: Vision Pro. It got the award for Spatial Computing. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much. This is so cool.

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Speaker 2: So explain what the black Box game is?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it depends where you're talking about it. It started

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00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 10: as a game for iOS collection of over forty now

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Speaker 10: over eighty puzzles that don't involve touching the screen and

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Speaker 10: has sort of evolved to the Vision Os to be

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00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 10: this spatial concept of puzzles that kind of enter the

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Speaker 10: room and you have to sort of take your curiosity

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Speaker 10: and figure out how to solve them.

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Speaker 1: So what made you come up with this game? Because

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00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: you said you've been doing it for this came out

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00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: many years ago ocasionally.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, over eight years now, okay.

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Speaker 1: So what were you doing and then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you said, okay, I'm making this game.

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Speaker 10: I think there was a long period of getting frustrated

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Speaker 10: kind of how it felt to me that people weren't

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Speaker 10: taking advantage of the full potential of iPhone iPad and

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Speaker 10: using the full context sensor platform that was there. There's

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00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 10: so much there to kind of understand your world and

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Speaker 10: make better experiences based on that, not just something that

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Speaker 10: can exist under any slab of multi touch glass, so

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Speaker 10: to speak.

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Speaker 1: So it's a game that takes advantage of the different

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Speaker 1: sensors and things on the iPhone. Explain that a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because it's kind of tough to it is. When you

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00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: see it, you understand, but when you're visually representing it,

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Speaker 1: it's tough. It's like you might turn your phone on

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00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: its side and that might solve.

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Speaker 6: A yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 10: It really tries to turn things on its head immediately,

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00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 10: Like touching the screen is kind of discouraged and sends

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Speaker 10: you back to the main menu.

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Speaker 6: Right, So it's really.

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Speaker 10: The goal is to get people thinking outside the phone

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00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 10: and in their world. Whether that sends you on a

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00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 10: hike or sends you looking for a musical instrument, it's

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00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 10: really all over the place. But to get people thinking

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00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 10: really critically. There isn't just something that you learn as

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00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 10: a skill like an arcade game and get good at.

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Speaker 10: Once you solve one, the next one is completely different,

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Speaker 10: and people are better and worse at different ones. It's

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00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 10: really interesting. We're all very different in that way.

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Speaker 1: How many games did you launch with on the iPhone

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Speaker 1: and how many are you up to?

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Speaker 10: I think I launched with somewhere around forty two and

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Speaker 10: now it's up to eighty one at eight years later.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, twelve million players.

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Speaker 10: Now it's kind of has a cult viral status. Certain

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00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 10: people have done a lot of crazy things trying to

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Speaker 10: play Black Box.

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Speaker 1: So you had this idea in your head, you did it,

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: and you had twelve million people play your idea. How

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Speaker 1: does that make you feel?

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Speaker 6: It's wild?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's I get so many stories constantly from

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00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 10: people and the places that's taken them, and it's yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's just a privilege. It's fun to share something that

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 10: I wanted to play and wanted to exist, and to

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00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 10: see that touch so many other people that feel the

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Speaker 10: same way.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think this type of game appeals to.

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Speaker 10: A lot of people that play it and love it.

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Speaker 10: Tell me they're like, I don't I don't play games,

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Speaker 10: but like I love black Box.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 10: It's like, you know, there's nothing wrong with being a game,

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Speaker 10: But I think.

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Speaker 6: The kind of person who loves.

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Speaker 10: Easter eggs and loves surprises and loves kind of is

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Speaker 10: curious to check things out and figure out how they

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Speaker 10: work and take something apart put it back together, or

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00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 10: just someone that likes, you know, the kind of art

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Speaker 10: that's at a gallery that you want to touch.

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Speaker 6: You should be able to touch, but you're not allowed

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Speaker 6: to here.

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Speaker 10: You know, you can't touch the screen, but try everything else,

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Speaker 10: you know, Lock your phone in a box, put it

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00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 10: under a pillow, go walk outside.

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Speaker 1: So you won the award for Spatial Computing. You brought

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Speaker 1: this to Apple Vision Pro. Yeah, what made you want

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Speaker 1: to bring into Apple Vision Pro and what was the

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Speaker 1: new challenge of bringing this type of game to that headset.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I wouldn't even say I brought the game to

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 10: the headset, so to speak. I really stripped the concept

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00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 10: down back to its essence, not even on a phone,

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00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 10: and had to grow it back onto this sort of

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Speaker 10: thing into your space. It was always an interesting idea

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Speaker 10: to have black Box be more physical, I think, but

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Speaker 10: there just wasn't the means to do so, so it

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Speaker 10: had always been kind of reduced to this two D plane.

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Speaker 10: It was really fun once I had tried vision pro

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Speaker 10: to think of how would these things exist? And I

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Speaker 10: really didn't want it to feel like puzzle Box, or

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Speaker 10: like some sort of puzzle creator had locked you in

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Speaker 10: a room and you were escaping or something like that.

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Speaker 10: Those are fine experiences, but I wanted black Box to

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Speaker 10: be a bit more of like this phenomenon, not like

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00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 10: an alien thing, but kind of this like agnostic.

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Speaker 6: Kind of blob something.

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Speaker 10: It's not really clear if there's any person involved, so

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Speaker 10: to speak, and this was the perfect way to do

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Speaker 10: it once I figured out how we could pull off

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Speaker 10: the visuals and call together the friends and team to

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Speaker 10: make it happen.

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Speaker 1: So briefly, explain what the game is like Inside Vision Pro. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you showed me a little bit earlier. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like there's bubbles, there's all kinds of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: It's like very mysterious.

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Speaker 6: Lots of bubbles.

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Speaker 10: I like if you've played Black Box on iOS, you

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Speaker 10: know there's very little language. I try to get away

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Speaker 10: from words as quickly as possible. It's the same here.

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Speaker 10: Starts with kind of this mysterious splash screen. You click

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Speaker 10: away from that, and then bubbles come in all around

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Speaker 10: the room and that gets you away from any sort

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Speaker 10: of menu or this concept that the puzzle is only

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Speaker 10: in one place, which I think is great because as

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Speaker 10: you look in over your shoulder a little bit to

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Speaker 10: see if there's more. These bubbles work if you're in

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Speaker 10: a living room or an office, or you're outside and

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Speaker 10: they just kind of float there waiting for you, and

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Speaker 10: they sort of I.

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Speaker 6: Think bubbles just beckon interactivity.

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Speaker 10: You want to catch them or poke them, and as

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Speaker 10: soon as you do that, you're kind of rewarded. And

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Speaker 10: it might just pop if it's empty, but if it's

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Speaker 10: a colored bubble that contains a puzzle, then popping it

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Speaker 10: will cause it to kind of, yeah, wiggle into the

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Speaker 10: room and become its thing, start responding to you somehow,

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Speaker 10: or you can do that bubble gesture with your hands

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Speaker 10: and put it back and choose a new one.

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Speaker 1: Now, this idea of augmented reality, virtual reality, mixed reality

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00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: is still very new for a lot of people. You

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00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: have developed a game for one of the most cutting

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Speaker 1: edge headsets out there. What do you make of this

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00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: emerging technology? Do you think it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: force in our world?

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Speaker 10: Definitely, it's a long road, I think, and it's really

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 10: fun to be a part of the very beginning of

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01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 10: it how it will evolve. This is just such a

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 10: great platform to get to experiment with on I think

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Speaker 10: I was always interested in doing this sort of stuff,

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Speaker 10: but the technology just didn't exist, at least in forms

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01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 10: that I felt I could approach, and I didn't know

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Speaker 10: how to do any of this a little over a

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01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 10: year ago. So it's been fun to have the tools

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Speaker 10: to sort of build these weird, wacky dreams and then

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Speaker 10: take off the headset and be confused that that thing.

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Speaker 6: That you made is not there in the room with you.

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Speaker 2: Do you get a lot of feedback?

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Speaker 1: Are like people emailing you like every day, like asking

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: like for help on this game?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, And what do you do?

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Speaker 1: You can't reply to all that, can you try?

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Speaker 6: I try.

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Speaker 10: I think when I was a kid, I had emailed

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Speaker 10: some game doves and when they replied it was I

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Speaker 10: remember all those So I try to reply to all

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Speaker 10: those emails, even if I'm really coy about it and

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 10: won't give an answer, and just you know, a wink,

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 10: and well.

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Speaker 6: You should try a little looking at a different place.

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Speaker 1: You know, keep playing, keep playing. So what's your advice

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Speaker 1: for aspiring developers? People always come to me, they say, Rich,

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01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: I have an idea for an app. Is it tough

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: to do this? You did it on your own. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like there's enough tools out there and resources

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01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: to be able to for the average person to figure

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Speaker 1: this out?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's I don't think there's ever been more resources

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 10: and better time to get started with it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 10: I'm jealous of people learning now that don't have to

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01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 10: deal with some of the sort of things that I

1283
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 10: did coming into this field many, many years ago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 10: I think just paying attention to what people find they

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 10: like in other apps, and what experiences work really well

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01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 10: and what is intriguing to them, and really keeping track

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01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 10: of that and chasing that sort of how I developed

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 10: my sense of what I wanted to create and add

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Speaker 10: more too.

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Speaker 1: All Right, the app is called black Box. It's available

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: on the iPhone. Is it on? And then of course

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Speaker 1: Apple Vision pro so search for it, download it and

1294
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: enter this world of mystery and see if you can

1295
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: solve some of these puzzles.

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Speaker 2: Ryan McCloud, thanks so much for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much. Yeah, keep thinking outside of the bucks.

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Speaker 1: I'll put a link to the game on the website.

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Speaker 1: Richon Tech dot TV more rich on Tech coming your

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Speaker 1: way right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here talking technology with you. Bad week for

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Speaker 1: social media and teens. A lot of legislation to kind

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Speaker 1: of curb the use also help teens be on their

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Speaker 1: cell phones less. So let me talk about three different

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Speaker 1: things that happen. One in LA, one in New York,

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Speaker 1: and then one from the Surgeon General. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. LA Unified School District wants to vote on

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Speaker 1: a proposal for student cell phone ban during school hours.

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Speaker 1: This aims to improve learning, reduce bullying, distraction, and anxiety.

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Speaker 1: If past staff would develop policies within one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty days, including input from experts, staff, students, and parents.

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Speaker 1: Some of the ideas they're running by including cell phone lockers,

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Speaker 1: cell phone pouches, or even just technology to block social

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Speaker 1: media access. If this policy was approved, it would take

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Speaker 1: effect in January of twenty twenty five. While it sounds

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Speaker 1: like it's a good idea, not everyone is happy about it.

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Speaker 1: Parents are concerned about safety and communication with their kids

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Speaker 1: because if their kids didn't have access to their smartphones

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Speaker 1: all day, a lot of parents use them to get

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Speaker 1: in touch and also track where they are. Meanwhile, in

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Speaker 1: New York, they actually enacted enacted a law to protect

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Speaker 1: minors from social media. Governor Hokul signed a bill targeting

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Speaker 1: addictive feeds and data collection. So two things they did.

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Speaker 1: Two bills signed into law on June twentieth, the Stop

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Speaker 1: Addictive Feeds Exploitation for Kids Acts Safe Act and then

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Speaker 1: the New York Child Data Protection Act. So the Safe

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Speaker 1: for Kids Act requires parental consent for social media companies

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Speaker 1: to use quote addictive feeds. So already you can see

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Speaker 1: they turbocharge what they call these things. They're going to

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Speaker 1: need user parent consent on users under eighteen. It would

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Speaker 1: also prohibit notifications to minors between midnight and six am

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Speaker 1: without parental consent, and this would take effect one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty days after they figure out how to age

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Speaker 1: verify kids on these apps. A lot of kids just

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Speaker 1: lie about their aide, so clearly that will not work.

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Speaker 1: Violators would face fines of five thousand dollars per infraction.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got the Child Data Protection Act. This limits

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Speaker 1: data collection on miners without consent, restricts the sale of

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Speaker 1: miners information. This one does not require age verification. It

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Speaker 1: will take effect in one year. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: states looking at these different laws to protect miners from

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Speaker 1: social media because if left on checked, kids would be

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Speaker 1: on their phone unlimited amounts of time, unlimited amounts of time.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The Surgeon General meanwhile, did an op ed piece arguing

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Speaker 1: that we need urgent action to protect the youth's mental

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Speaker 1: health from social media risks.

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Speaker 2: Vivic H.

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Speaker 1: Murphy says adolescents spend over three hours a day on

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Speaker 1: social media. If they do, they face double the risk

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Speaker 1: of anxiety and depression. Average social media use for adolescents

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Speaker 1: was four point eight hours as of last summer. Half

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Speaker 1: of adolescents say social media negatively impacts their body image,

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Speaker 1: and he is proposing a Surgeon General's warning on social

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Speaker 1: media platform similar to what they did for cigarettes and

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Speaker 1: other things. Of course, all of this is debatable. I

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Speaker 1: think that some kids are very healthy with their social

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Speaker 1: media use, others are greatly impacted, and then you have

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Speaker 1: the majority that are probably in between. But I think

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing here is that left unchecked, these social

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Speaker 1: media platforms would of course take advantage of these impressionable

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Speaker 1: youth and the fact that we're all on our phones.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the young kids that are on their

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Speaker 1: phones all the time. It's just that they're not maybe

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Speaker 1: as evolved in their brains as an adult to be

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Speaker 1: able to figure out when to say enough is enough,

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Speaker 1: just like anything else.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we'll continue to watch those.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phone lines triple eight Rich

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Speaker 1: one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four to one zero one. Let's go to line three,

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Speaker 1: Ron in Laguna Noguel, California. Ron, you are on with

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Speaker 1: rich Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 11: Hey, hey you're rich Man. Prosperable information each week. Thanks

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Speaker 11: so much for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Of course, question my question. There are companies out there

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Speaker 11: that offer up services to delete your name from well

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Speaker 11: being and Google searches. And I know we can do

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Speaker 11: it manually, and thanks for your education that way. But

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Speaker 11: are these things useful?

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Speaker 2: Do they work?

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Speaker 11: I mean they say they're on an online basis up

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Speaker 11: per month where they monitor it. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Well, my thought is this Number one. Do they work? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they might work for some of them.

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Speaker 1: I've been testing one called Mozilla Monitor to see just

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Speaker 1: how well these work. And so according to that, this

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Speaker 1: has auto removed two hundred and nineteen pieces of my

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Speaker 1: information from the web, including my physical address one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty four times, family members names ninety three times,

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Speaker 1: phone numbers thirteen times. So yes, they do work. But

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Speaker 1: here is We talked to an expert on this very

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Speaker 1: show a couple of weeks ago about this, and I

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Speaker 1: asked him that question because he's all about your information

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Speaker 1: on the web, mostly when it comes to the dark web,

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Speaker 1: you know, the really bad stuff. So let's let's put

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Speaker 1: it this way. Number one, most of the information out

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Speaker 1: there is your phone number, your address, if they get

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Speaker 1: that right. All of that stuff is on public records.

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Speaker 1: That's how these companies get it. They put it out

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Speaker 1: there and someone searches for you and next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: it says, hey, we've got Rich's address. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to you know, want to see it? And by the way,

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Speaker 1: it takes an hour to get to the final page

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Speaker 1: that shows you the actual address, if it shows you

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Speaker 1: that at all. So the information is out there. Number one,

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Speaker 1: Do you need to take it down? That's number two.

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Speaker 1: That's a personal preference. I think if you want your privacy,

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Speaker 1: it's a game of whack a mole. You can take

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Speaker 1: this stuff down, like I took two hundred and thirty down.

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Speaker 1: That does not mean that it's all gone, but I

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Speaker 1: would say you might want to get it down from

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Speaker 1: some of the key places. And I did this myself

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I went to a website

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Speaker 1: I think it was just delete me. What was it,

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Speaker 1: delete me, delete me DIY. So delete me is one

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Speaker 1: of these companies that will will do this for you.

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Speaker 1: But they also have opt out guides on their website

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Speaker 1: that you can follow for some of these popular websites,

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Speaker 1: so you can get your information off of you know,

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Speaker 1: truth Finder and Spokeo and background checks and all these

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Speaker 1: different things. So I did that myself. It takes a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. It's annoying, but it did work. The thesis

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Speaker 1: that the expert I talked to was that this information

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Speaker 1: is not the most useful information. You know, your phone number,

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Speaker 1: your email, your you know, your your physical address. It's

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Speaker 1: really the dark web information that you should be concerned

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Speaker 1: about the most. And that's your user name, that's your password,

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Speaker 1: that's your date of birth, that's your email address, that

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Speaker 1: is your password for your different websites, your social Security number.

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Speaker 1: That's the stuff that is much much harder to get

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Speaker 1: taken down off the web because it's up there by

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Speaker 1: you know, companies that are not operating in in a

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Speaker 1: you know, reputable area, more of a gray area that

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Speaker 1: they're operating in, or the dark web in general. So

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Speaker 1: with all of that said, do I think you should

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Speaker 1: pay for one of these things. It's up to you

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01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: to do you want to pay for it, go ahead

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Speaker 1: if if you want to try it out and see

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Speaker 1: what information you can have taken down, try it. But

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Speaker 1: most of them wants you to do it on a

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Speaker 1: yearly basis or a monthly basis, where they just keep

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Speaker 1: charging you to get this information down. But again it's

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Speaker 1: a game of whack a mole. So new information just

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: pops up every single day, so you'd be doing this forever,

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Speaker 1: you'd be paying them forever, which obviously is the business

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Speaker 1: model that everyone really likes. Now, the one thing that

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Speaker 1: I do recommend that I think is incredible and it

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Speaker 1: is free, is Google Results about you. And this is

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Speaker 1: completely free. You go in, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: the more important way to do it. You basically put

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Speaker 1: in the information that you don't want on Google search results.

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Speaker 1: Every time Google finds that information in a search result,

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Speaker 1: it will give you an email and a notification and

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Speaker 1: will give you the opportunity to take that information off

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Speaker 1: of Google search results. When I say that, that's the

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Speaker 1: only thing it takes it off of, but think about it.

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Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of people just go to Google, they

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Speaker 1: search your name, they look in those results for your information.

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Speaker 1: So if the result isn't there, they're probably not going

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Speaker 1: to go to Spokio or all these other websites that

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Speaker 1: actually have the data. So it's like a good first

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Speaker 1: line of defense and it's completely free.

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Speaker 2: I use it.

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Speaker 1: I get notifications on a daily basis. Google takes down

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Speaker 1: that result very quickly and it's gone out of Google,

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Speaker 1: and it's just a nice easy freeway to get your

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Speaker 1: information removed once again.

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Speaker 2: It is called Google Results about you.

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Speaker 1: I'll put the link on my website rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot TV.

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Speaker 2: Hit the light bulb coming up.

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Speaker 1: We've got a special guest plus much more of the

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Speaker 1: show right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,

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Speaker 1: talking technology. The website for the show rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. There you can find my newsletter. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on on social media. I am at rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. You can email the show by hitting contact,

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01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: or just kind of look at the different stories I

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: do for KTLA and my TV segments, or listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcast of the radio show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. Glad you're here.

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Speaker 1: I've actually have a special guest with me. I am

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live for my parents' basement in New Jersey, no joke,

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Speaker 1: that's actually where I am. My dad set up the studio.

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Speaker 1: He was so excited to hang the blankets for the

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Speaker 1: noise cancelation and run the cables on the floor. He

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Speaker 1: said he felt like a real Hollywood gaffer. So thank

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Speaker 1: you Dad for doing that. My brother, though, joins me,

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Speaker 1: he did not do anything except join me here.

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Speaker 2: To talk technology. Justin DeMuro, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Oh wait, hang on, let

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Speaker 1: me get your I gotta actually turn on your mic.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, say that again. Justin DeMuro, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you are. Okay, So I think we have

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Speaker 1: a little bit more so Justin is just as much

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Speaker 1: into technology as I am. We are going to be

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Speaker 1: talking about all of the good stuff that we love

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Speaker 1: to talk about offline here on the show in just

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Speaker 1: a moment. First, I just wanted to get through a

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Speaker 1: couple of notable news pieces this week. So number one,

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Speaker 1: California rejected AT and t's bid to end their landline obligations.

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Speaker 2: This is according to Ours Technica.

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Speaker 1: The California Public Utilities Commission rejected AT and t's request

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Speaker 1: to end its carrier of last result obligation last resort

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Speaker 1: That means that they were required to keep land lines

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Speaker 1: up and running in.

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Speaker 2: These various rural areas.

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Speaker 1: And they debated with the CPUC saying, you know what,

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Speaker 1: come on, people have ways of making calls here, and

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Speaker 1: they said no, they don't. So, according to the CPUC,

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Speaker 1: AT and T failed to demonstrate the availability of suitable

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Speaker 1: replacement providers for the service, and the Commission clarified that,

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Speaker 1: by the way, these rules are technology neutral. They don't

1519
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: prevent AT and T from upgrading these areas to fiber.

1520
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: So what is AT and T gonna do? They're gonna

1521
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: lay fiber everywhere?

1522
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: Just kidding.

1523
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: No, They're now focusing on lobbying to change the state

1524
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: law so that they can support legislation that allow it

1525
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: to remain the Cohler in rural regions but being released

1526
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: from obligations elsewhere. So if you got a landline, you're

1527
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep it and pay those high

1528
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: prices for a little bit longer. Amazon eliminating plastic air

1529
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: pillows in North American shipments, so you know, you get

1530
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: those little plastic like air pillow thingies and your shipments,

1531
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: they're replacing them with recycled paper. Companies already removed ninety

1532
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: five percent of plastic cushions. They aim to eliminate the

1533
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: rest by the end of this year twenty twenty four.

1534
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: Amazon plans to replace its plastic mailers with paper sleeves.

1535
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: In the coming months.

1536
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I'm actually getting things

1537
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: delivered to my house that are much more like just

1538
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: in the box or just in like almost like a

1539
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: clear plastic wrapping, like you can see what's inside. By

1540
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: the way, if you want to reach a person quickly,

1541
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: like a real person at Amazon Customer Service quickly, life

1542
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: Hacker has the way, you can bypass all of their

1543
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: automated systems and speak directly with an Amazon representative. All

1544
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: you have to do is visit Amazon's contact us page,

1545
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: select something else, choose I need more help, and in

1546
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,839
Speaker 1: the customer service chat that pops up, type in request

1547
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: a phone call, and then select Okay, I'll enter my

1548
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: phone number. They will call you. And yes, I've done

1549
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: this before. They do actually have real people that will

1550
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 1: call you. My advice is this, do not google search

1551
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: an Amazon customer service phone number. You will get scammed.

1552
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: Whatever the result you see may or may not be

1553
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: a real phone number, So be very careful with any company,

1554
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: not just Amazon. But if you're googling for a phone number,

1555
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: make sure that phone number is originating from the official

1556
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: web page and not some random thing that pops up

1557
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: and you call it. And before we get to my brother,

1558
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: let me just mention this. A Tesla battery died in

1559
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: Arizona and a toddler was inside and it was like,

1560
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, the car was hot. And so the takeaway

1561
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: from this adults might know how to use the manual

1562
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: door releases inside these cars, but younger people cannot. So

1563
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: this Tesla lost power. It trapped a twenty month through

1564
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: twenty month toddler inside the hot car. Firefighters had to

1565
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: break the car's window to rescue the child. Again, all

1566
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 1: of these cars had these electronic door releases, and people

1567
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: are unaware that there is a manual release mechanism. So

1568
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: if you have an electric car and you've got these

1569
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: doors that are electronic, figure out where the mechanical release

1570
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: is and make sure you tell anyone who's in the

1571
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: car with you where those releases are, because you never

1572
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: know when you're gonna need them.

1573
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: Now, this is not just a Tesla problem.

1574
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: A lot of these new fangled cars are using these

1575
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: push button doors and all these electronic doors, so know

1576
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: where they are. In fact, when I was at the

1577
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: Chicago Auto Show, I asked the Tesla rep because I

1578
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: was in the car, and I said, Hey, how do

1579
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: I open this car if I'm like falling into a lake?

1580
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm like the car is like falling

1581
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: into water, Like, how would I open this door?

1582
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 2: Because it's all electronic, isn't it gonna short circuit?

1583
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: And they said, yeah, there's a little pull latch on

1584
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: the door, so familiarize yourself with where it is.

1585
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so welcome to the show. Justin Demiro.

1586
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: This is my brother, and Justin's a tech person as well.

1587
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: So why your love of technology? Yeah, I think it

1588
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: actually comes from you. You always had the computers growing up,

1589
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: and I just started tinkering around with them and just

1590
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: grew up loving them as well, playing video games and

1591
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: getting into coding and eventually went to school for it.

1592
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: So I've always loved technology. So you're much nerdier than

1593
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: you're like, you're much more into tech. It's funny I

1594
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: do a tech radio show in a TV segment, but

1595
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: you're actually nerdier, probably smarter, and know more about this

1596
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: stuff in your house. Like he's got his whole house

1597
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: set up with like all these Google like routines and

1598
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: they all have like the nerdiest names, like don't you say,

1599
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: like okay computer and all this weird stuff. Yeah, I

1600
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: give I give all of my smart devices cute little

1601
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: names like like bed you and Jamo and Fie, they're

1602
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 1: all just I got tired of saying living room lights.

1603
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, see that's nerdy. I love it.

1604
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: And you're also an Android guy, So what makes you

1605
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: keep Android all these years? When the you know that

1606
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: that rush of that wave of iPhone, like everyone is like, hey,

1607
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: share that picture, air drop it to me, and you're like,

1608
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: I can't, Like, what makes you still stick to Android?

1609
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: What do you love about it? That's the worst I've

1610
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: I've lost so many dates because of that.

1611
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 2: No Android, I mean.

1612
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: It's just it's so flexible. I've I've never been able

1613
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: to not do what I need to do other than

1614
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: synergize with other iPhone users. So it's it just does

1615
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: everything I need to do. There's I know, back when

1616
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: they first came out, iPhone had the advantage and they

1617
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 1: had all the apps, and you go look on Android,

1618
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we don't have an app or it's

1619
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: like some weird, like shady app that like is definitely

1620
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: not is like a virus or something. Yeah, but yeah,

1621
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: they've polished up over the years. I mean, I have

1622
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 1: a pixel and it's great. I mean it does everything

1623
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: I needed to do. It's got great battery life. The

1624
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: pictures aren't incredible. It just does everything I need to do,

1625
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: and it's out of my way. I've used iPhones before,

1626
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not really a fan personally, but you know,

1627
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: to each his own, they get to they get the

1628
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 1: job done.

1629
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about this story.

1630
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: So I lent my my knowledge to this KTLA story

1631
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: on the vinyl revival, a resurgence of analog and a

1632
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: digital age. So vinyl record sales continue to climb, which

1633
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: makes no sense in today's streaming world. But I said,

1634
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: it does kind of make sense. I said, you know,

1635
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: number one, people want their ownership and control over music, right,

1636
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: you don't get that with streaming. That's not a huge reason,

1637
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: but it's kind of you know, it's one of them.

1638
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: The tangible, collectible nature of vinyl records I think people

1639
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: really like, and the nostalgia factor and sensory experience is

1640
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: also I think what people really like. Plus it's simple

1641
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: and you can focus on it. Now. I went to

1642
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: your house this weekend. You have a record player, and

1643
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: I was impressed by that. So what do you like

1644
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: about the record player? Why do you have one? Yeah,

1645
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: we actually use it. It's not just there for show.

1646
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1647
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: I bought it for my girlfriend for I don't know,

1648
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: some some gift at some point, and you know, because

1649
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: she has a collection of records, but I wanted her

1650
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: to actually play them and I thought it would be cool,

1651
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize I would like it as much

1652
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: as I do. I mean, most of the time you

1653
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: want to play music, you go on your phone, you

1654
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: open up Spotify or a music streaming app, and you

1655
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: just hit play and then it plays forever. With this,

1656
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a bit more of a a conscious experience.

1657
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: You're you're selecting the music. Like when we go to

1658
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: play a record, we're talking to each other and saying, hey,

1659
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: what do you want to play? We have this pile

1660
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: of records that mostly that we stole from my parents' house,

1661
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: so they're records. Yeah, but we also have new records.

1662
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean she has several Taylor Swift albums. I just

1663
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: bought two records the other day from a concert that

1664
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: I went to, and it's great playing them. I mean

1665
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: you get that tactle experience with it. I will say,

1666
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: something you don't realize is how short a record is. Yeah,

1667
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: it's like what twenty minutes aside or forty minutes aside

1668
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: forty five that yeah, yeah, it's only it's like it's

1669
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: maybe like ten songs max. And that goes by quickly,

1670
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: you don't even realize it. But again, that goes back

1671
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: to what you were saying about that kind of like

1672
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: you're you're focused on it, like it's you understand, Like

1673
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, you play music on a streaming service.

1674
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: It just plays forever and ever and ever.

1675
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,879
Speaker 1: You can just leave it on for the entire weekend

1676
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: and never and you one might not even know a

1677
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 1: song that plays in the background. Sure with the record

1678
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: you're placing it there. So I asked my Facebook page

1679
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash rich on tech what they like

1680
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,440
Speaker 1: about records. The commenters came in Number one, nostalgia and tangibility.

1681
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: That's what people like. Number one.

1682
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: Number two sound quality, you know, they like they think

1683
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: it's superior compared to digital formats, which may or may

1684
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: not be true. It may just sound richer. Perhaps, I

1685
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: guess the convenience of streaming. People do like that.

1686
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: They do acknowledge the fact that streaming is more convenient.

1687
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: For sure. Sure, coexistence people say, hey, look, both of

1688
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: these things can exist at the same time, and you're

1689
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: you're saying that as well.

1690
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: Generational differences.

1691
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: People say older listeners, the older listeners say they preferred vinyl,

1692
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: the younger listeners say they're exploring the formats you've got,

1693
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: you know, one two there. Some people said that there's

1694
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: concerns about vinyls, you know, longevity when it comes to

1695
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: like how fragile the records are. Have you scratched one?

1696
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm playing records that our parents had from

1697
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 1: they're probably from the seventies, and they still work. You know,

1698
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: you might get a couple of skips here and there,

1699
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: but that's part of the charm of the medium. I mean,

1700
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: you don't think about music skipping these days at all,

1701
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: but that used to be a very real thing that

1702
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: we had to deal with, Like just CD players, remember

1703
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: they had to the anti shock feature on portable on

1704
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 1: like Walkman's Yeah, and that never worked, never worked. No,

1705
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: it was always skipping. I remember running with a with

1706
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: a Walkman and it was just it just was not

1707
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: a perfect thing. All right, we're gonna take a break.

1708
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: You're talking, and you're hearing from me Rich Demiro and

1709
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: my brother Justin DeMuro. We are talking technology. We're going

1710
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: to answer some emails that we got. Plus we've got

1711
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: an interview with the co founder of text Now and

1712
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: later on. It's the feedback Everyone's favorite. We'll be right

1713
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: back here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich

1714
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology.

1715
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: The website for the show rich on Tech dot TV.

1716
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: If you need a link to something I mentioned, hit

1717
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: the light bulb. If you want to get in touch

1718
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: with the show, just hit contact. Sitting here with my brother,

1719
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: Justin DeMuro, Justin, Welcome.

1720
01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: To the show once again.

1721
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Thanks again. So we have a bunch of emails that

1722
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: you have sent in and we're going to talk about

1723
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: some of these. So go ahead with the first email. Yes,

1724
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: so we got one from Al from New Mexico rights in.

1725
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 1: Is there a reason that you rarely speak about open

1726
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: source Linux in general? We all report would frequently talk

1727
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: about its benefits. I'm currently retired and live in a

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01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 1: community with other retired folks, some of whom I've converted

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01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: to Linux. Though not an expert, I have about twenty

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01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: years experience with telemetry and other security and privacy issues

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: that plague both Windows and Apple. I believe open source

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01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: is the better option. Unless one must use specific software

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01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 1: for certain business applications. Your thoughts, uh, well, I will

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01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: tell you my thoughts and I'll talk. I'll defer to

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01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: you because I know you're much more linuxy than I am.

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: So my thought is that this show is for the

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01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: average person. And in my twenty plus years of experience

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01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: covering technology, I don't know if it's been that long,

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01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: maybe it's been a little bit less. Maybe well being

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01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: in technology obviously, I've used technology myself, so I'm aware

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01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: of it. I understand it to a certain extent, but

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01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 1: it's just not what I'm seeing the average person using,

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: nor am I pushing it to the average person. Now

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01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 1: when it comes to open source and my big thing,

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01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: I do love open source stuff. I think it's open

1746
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 1: source software is incredible. I think third party software is incredible,

1747
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: like software that runs on all platforms.

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01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: So if you listen to this show, you know I.

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01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: Give Apple a hard time because Apple stuff is great,

1750
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: but it's very much proprietary to Apple, and most other

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01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: tech companies in the world are working to unite the

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01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: world with software that works everywhere, and you know, the

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01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Internet itself. If you think, can you imagine if you

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01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: went on a website that just didn't work on a

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01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: computer because it wasn't you know, a certain type of computer.

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 1: Or you plugged in a phone to an old school

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01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: like you know, Jack and it just didn't work because

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't the right kind of phone, you know. So

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01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that I do understand. But

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01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't think the average person to me is looking

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01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: to use Linux or adopt it in a big way.

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01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: I have nothing against it, justin what do you say? Yeah,

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01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: so I have used Linux a lot. I use it professionally.

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01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: Linux as a desktop, which is sounds like what you're

1765
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: talking about is is a thing, right. I Mean, there's

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01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: Ubuntu and Linux Mint, and they have they have really

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01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: user friendly interfaces and they're completely free, but there is

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01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: still a level of technical aptitude that you need in

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01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: order to run these even though they're they're very user friendly,

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01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: So which is great. I mean, that's that's what I

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01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: started using years ago when I was working at a

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01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,879
Speaker 1: web design place. Uh. They they got me working on Linux,

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01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: and I just I was like, you know what, I'm

1774
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: going full in. I uninstalled Windows from my laptop and

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01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: I installed Ubuntu and I didn't stop configuring it for

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01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: the entire time I worked there, and that's the fun

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01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: of it. That is the fun of it. Sure, it

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01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: kind of like reminds you of Android. When I was

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01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: putting like ROMs on my phone, It's like I was

1780
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 1: ever happy with it. I just kept like tweaking and

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01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: tweaking and tweaking. And I think that's what people like

1782
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: about the Apple side of things, is that you don't

1783
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: have to think about that stuff like Apple thinks about

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01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: it all for you. So I think that there's a

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01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: world that exists where these things can work and they

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01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: can happen. But like at the end of the day,

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01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: my show, what I do on TV, what I do

1788
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: on the radio is trying to reach an average person

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: of average aptitude, that is just trying to get things

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01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: at work. And if it doesn't, you know, they're gonna

1791
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: come emailing me more.

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: So thank you. Next question. Let's go to the next question.

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: Sure. So we have Kim from Kay Smith Interiors and

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01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 1: she writes in saying, Hi, Rich, love your show. I'm

1795
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: writing on behalf of my boss. At the end of

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01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 1: most jobs we have professional photography done. Some are posted

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01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: on How's Yeah that's how website. I've stumbled upon that site.

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01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,799
Speaker 1: Before this week we found a photo of our client's

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01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: entry on Amazon. They're selling several chandeliers using our clients

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01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: entryway photo with different light fixtures photoshopped in how do

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01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: we have Do we have any recourse here? Given this

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01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 1: exact photo was on How's Thank You in advance? Good question,

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01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: of course, this is the web. People take stuff all

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01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: the time. It is tough. We're seeing this with AI

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01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 1: where it's just grabbing, you know, photos on the web

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01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 1: and using it to regurgitate new photos. So I think

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01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: it's again a game of whack a mole, like I

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01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: mentioned with the data stuff. But it is Amazon. It

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01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: is a company that's selling stuff, and nobody should be

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01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: taking your photo without your permission. So if you look

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01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: on an Amazon product listing, there is a tiny link

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01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: that says report an issue with this product or seller.

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01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Use the control F on your computer find report this

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01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: reporting issue, click that link and then say, hey, look

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01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: this is my picture. Why is this listing using my picture?

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01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: And it's probably some third party listing that's just you know,

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01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: grabbing stuff off the web and using it. So that's

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01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: the best you can do. But yeah, if you put

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01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 1: it on the web, chances are someone's going to steal

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01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: it and use it for their own good Yeah, and

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01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: I think I think I'll come up against the break

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01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like ten seconds.

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01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: Sure.

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01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Something else that might help is adding a water mark.

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01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: So add a watermark to your images to help track

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01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: them down a little bit.

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01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 2: All right, good advice.

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01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're going to talk to you

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01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: Derek Ting, co founder and CEO of text Now. This

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01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 1: is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Joining

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01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: me now, Derek Ting, CEO and co founder of text Now.

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01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: Derek, thanks so much for joining me.

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01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 12: Thanks for having me Rich.

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01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm very excited to talk to you because text

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01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: now has a new free Essential Data plan which lets

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01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: you get free essential data on your smartphone. But first,

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01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: before we get to that, just explain to me what

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01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,759
Speaker 1: text now is all about.

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01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 12: Text now is about free phone service through an app.

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,799
Speaker 12: So we created a free phone service where you can

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01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 12: go to the app store, Play Store, search for text Now,

1844
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 12: you down or app and in a few simple steps

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01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 12: you get a free phone line that's ad supported, and

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01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 12: then if you pay five dollars for a SIM card,

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01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 12: we ship a sim car to your door, and then

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01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 12: the app will also work without Wi Fi and get

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01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 12: nationwide five D coverage.

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01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 2: It's like two levels.

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01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: The first is you could just download the app, get

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01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: a free phone number, text with friends and family, make

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01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: phone calls. Or you can pay that five dollars to

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01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 1: get a physical sim that you can put in your

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01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: phone and actually kind of unlock some more features, which

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01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: is free calling and texting and also some other stuff,

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01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: but through you know, a five G network like a

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01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: regular cellular plan, but minus the monthly fee exactly exactly.

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01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 12: And then our goal isn't to just be another app

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01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 12: on your phone, like our goal is to help people

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01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 12: cut the cord from their expensive wireless carrier and not

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01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 12: have to pay high monthly phone bills. That's where that's

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01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 12: the aim of our service.

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01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 2: So how'd you come up with this? What made you

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01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: create text Now?

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01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 6: It started when we.

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01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 5: Were in college.

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01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 12: I got tired of paying AT and T twenty bucks

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01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 12: a month for calling, twenty bucks a month for data,

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01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 12: and then another twenty bucks a month for texting. So

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01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 12: actually started from a pet project in college where we

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01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 12: want to make an app to make texting free. We

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01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 12: didn't want to pay for texting, and then what we

1874
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 12: realized was a lot of people use their app not

1875
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 12: just to make texting free, but they were actually using

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01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 12: our app instead of paying for phone service. So then

1877
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 12: that got us obsessed with the idea of how can

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01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 12: we figure out how to make phone service free? And

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01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 12: then it's snowball from there and so ever since then

1880
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 12: we've made texting free, but we also figure out how

1881
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 12: to make calling free, and then now we've made a

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01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 12: free data plan.

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01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: What's the catch, you say, ad supported, What does that

1884
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: mean exactly?

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01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, so there's no catch, but it's a little different

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01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 12: from the traditional wireless plan model. So we are phone

1887
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 12: service through an app. So think of us as any

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01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 12: other free internet service that you use, like Facebook or

1889
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 12: Spotify or YouTube where you see some ads in the app.

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01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 12: So we deliver phone service through an apps instead of

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01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 12: going to a phone store and waiting for an hour

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01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 12: for them to get your phone working. We're phone service

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01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 12: through an app. So you download our app and then

1894
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 12: you get phone service from the app. What that means

1895
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 12: is you text through app, you call through her app,

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01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 12: and then while you do that, there are some ads

1897
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 12: in the experience, but they're not intrusive. At all, and

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01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 12: then we get advertisers to sponsor the free service and

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01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 12: that helps people save money.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about this new plan.

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01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: This is free essential data, and so can you explain

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01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: what that plan is? So you get the simcard for

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01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: your phone. I've tried this. I popped it into my phone,

1904
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: download the app. It finds a five G signal, and

1905
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: of course you can make your calls, you can do

1906
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 1: the text just like you could regularly. But now you're

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01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: also adding some free data into the mix that you

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01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: can use for certain apps.

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01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Explain that part.

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01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: The idea is that we want to give people maximum

1912
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 12: flexibility and more ways for them to save money from

1913
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 12: their phone bill. And then so we identified these apps

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01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 12: that people use a lot that we can afford to

1915
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 12: give for free. So then we create a free data

1916
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 12: plan where you could just use the essential apps and

1917
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 12: it's free. So it's email, it's maps, it's transportation. We're

1918
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 12: able to figure out how to make those apps like

1919
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 12: free and like a free data plan, so then we

1920
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 12: so then when you can't pay, you still have these

1921
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 12: apps you can use when you're on the go, and

1922
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 12: then when you can pay, you can upgrade to the

1923
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 12: full data plan. But the idea is you don't have

1924
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 12: to pay for what you don't need. And also if

1925
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 12: you are in a tight financial situation, you still have

1926
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 12: phone service. It's reliable and you can access all the

1927
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 12: essential things you need to get access to.

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01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: So if I'm paying, if I paid that five dollars

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01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: to get the simcard, I would have access to free calling,

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01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: free texting. I could also check my email wherever I am.

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01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: I could check Google Maps wherever I am. I could

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01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: get an uber if I needed it, or you know,

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01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: and those are just example apps. You do have various

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01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: apps in those categories like you mentioned. And then of

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01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: course I can connect to Wi Fi to get data,

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01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm out and about. But you also

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01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: have these kind of data one off plans where you

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01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: can get data for an hour, you can get data

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01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: for a day, you can get data for a month.

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01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 12: What we do know what's common with most people is

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01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 12: there and Wi Fi most of the time, and then

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01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 12: they're paying for these expensive data plans when they don't

1943
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 12: need to, and we're able to help them save a

1944
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 12: lot of money.

1945
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: How long have you been doing this with text now.

1946
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 12: We've been doing it since I was in college. So

1947
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 12: twenty ten. We've been at it for a while. Yeah,

1948
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 12: what's really exciting is that we started off what's the

1949
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 12: simple goal of just not having to pay for texting,

1950
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 12: and then now we're at a point where like text

1951
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 12: now can replace your entire phone plan, you don't need to.

1952
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 4: Pay for a phone plan.

1953
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 12: And every day goes on, we're adding more to our

1954
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 12: free service, and we envision a future where just the

1955
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 12: free service just keeps getting better and better. And then

1956
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 12: there's we're like the only phone company that's trying to

1957
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 12: find ways to charge people less, not find ways to

1958
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 12: charge people more. And that's exciting because we're approaching a

1959
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 12: future where phone service can be completely this thing that

1960
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 12: no one has to pay for, and that's very exciting.

1961
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: So who do you think your service is for.

1962
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 12: It's for consumers, it's for small businesses that don't want

1963
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 12: to overpay for phone service that definitely have better use

1964
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 12: for their money besides over paying for phone service. And

1965
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 12: the average household spends two k a year on phone service,

1966
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 12: which is a lot of money. And if we can

1967
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 12: help families put more money in their pocket, ninety nine

1968
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 12: percent of them have some better use for it that

1969
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 12: benefit their family.

1970
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: So tell me about some of these add on costs.

1971
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: Because we talked about the data plans. I also noticed

1972
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: inside the app, you know, you can park your phone

1973
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: number for a couple extra bucks. You can receive you know,

1974
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: one time authorization codes like two factor authentication codes like

1975
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: are there any limitations that you think people should be

1976
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 1: aware of and the fees that people should be aware

1977
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: of before they get into this.

1978
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, we try to make it as simple as possible.

1979
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 12: We have our free tier, which is like you get

1980
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 12: always free tier, always get free talk through text, free

1981
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 12: Central Data. And then we do have some Alkhart options

1982
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 12: in case people don't want to pay the bundles, they

1983
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 12: can do things alakarte. So we have options for people

1984
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 12: to lock in their number. For example, on the free service,

1985
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 12: if you don't use your number for a month, then

1986
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 12: we have to give the phone number to someone else.

1987
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 12: But if you pay five bucks, we can lock in

1988
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 12: your numbers. So these are examples of some ala Caharte

1989
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 12: things people can can buy. And then also if we

1990
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 12: don't like ads, there's option to remove ads for ten

1991
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 12: bucks a month, and then more and more more more

1992
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 12: more commonly, if the free Central Data plan you need

1993
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 12: more than the free Central Data plan. You can get

1994
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 12: these data passes. So for an hour is a dollar.

1995
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 12: For a day it's five dollars. And then we offer

1996
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 12: an unlimited data plan for forty bucks a month if

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01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 12: you want unlimited for the whole month.

1998
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Can you give me an idea of how many people

1999
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 2: are using the service?

2000
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, we have over ten million unique visitors, unique customers

2001
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 12: that use text now a month, and then in the

2002
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 12: given day, we have over two million unique people that

2003
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 12: use text Now.

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01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: Direkting of text now dot com, thanks so much for

2005
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: joining me today.

2006
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 12: Thanks so much for having me Rich. Pleasure talking to you.

2007
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. You can find a link to text

2008
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 2: now on my website. Just go to rich on Tech

2009
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 2: dot TV. Rich on Tech coming your way right after this.

2010
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

2011
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Closing out the show. Three

2012
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: hours always go by so fast. We've been playing New

2013
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: Jersey music all show long to celebrate the fact that, yes,

2014
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: I have been visiting New Jersey, hanging out friends and

2015
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: family and also New York City. One of the best

2016
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: things I did when I went to New York City

2017
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: was dragging my family.

2018
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 2: To a hot dog cart. They did not want to go.

2019
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 2: But I found.

2020
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: This this YouTube where I like that does all the

2021
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,440
Speaker 1: New York City stuff here. We bar definitely follow him.

2022
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: He mentioned that he likes this guy up on ninety

2023
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: third in Central Park West. He's been there for thirty

2024
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: years selling these can I say dirty water dog? Is

2025
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: that like a mean thing to say? That's just makes

2026
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: it sound better. Greek immigrant and the guy we went

2027
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: up there. My family did not want to go on

2028
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 1: the subway and ride all the way up there, and

2029
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 1: I said.

2030
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 2: Let's just go. Let's just go. We get there.

2031
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: It was the best experience of New York City. The

2032
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 1: guy was so nice. Billy's called Billy's Dogs, and the

2033
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: experience was just great.

2034
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 2: And the dogs, by the way, two bucks.

2035
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: Anything for two dollars nothing, that's that's my brother justin.

2036
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: By the way, James rode in and said on the

2037
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: radio program today, your brother sounds just like you. As

2038
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I listen, I cannot differentiate between the two voices. Just

2039
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: a fun little fact from Jim and Dana point. William

2040
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: rode in while we talked about Android versus iPhone. He said,

2041
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 1: I would love to know why you your brother and

2042
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: others feel it's okay to use an Android operating system

2043
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: products that was basically started by theft from Apple. I

2044
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: don't patronize any company who steals, and you shouldn't neither.

2045
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. I think

2046
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: what they steal exactly, I don't know. I'm not really

2047
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: sure I think that. Yeah, everything's in iteration anyway. All right,

2048
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 1: let's get to one more question before we have to

2049
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: close out the show with the feedback segment. Oh right,

2050
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: So we have Terry who wrote in saying, I'm just

2051
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: your average seventy four year old lady who loves to

2052
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: dabble in doodle. I have the newest iPad pro and

2053
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 1: an Apple Pencil Pro. Can you recommend a good free

2054
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: sketching drawing app with the ability to attach photos and

2055
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: other graphics? She tried using free Form but found it

2056
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: unfriendly and can't find a way to save as JPEG

2057
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: only PDF files, So thanks in advance. Okay, she said free,

2058
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 1: which is the key word. Everyone wants everything for free.

2059
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 1: And I understand that, Terry, because you're just dabbling, right.

2060
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: But I just did a segment with Apple about their

2061
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: Apple Camp for Kids, and they were using Pages, which

2062
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: is something I would like never think to use on

2063
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 1: an iPad because I generally just delete all those programs.

2064
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 2: But it does.

2065
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 1: Exactly what you want. It works with the Apple pencil,

2066
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: works on the iPad. You can attach photos, you can

2067
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,799
Speaker 1: attach graphics. I assume you can export as a JPEG.

2068
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 1: I mean I would assume that. I think that's gonna

2069
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: work one hundred percent for free. So download Apple Pages

2070
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 1: and try it out. The other two apps I recommend

2071
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Sketchbook and pro Create. Sketchbook might have like a freemium

2072
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: version of it, and pro Create, I know, is a

2073
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: one time fee, but a lot of people love pro Create.

2074
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 1: It might be too much for what you need, justin

2075
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, I use something on my computer.

2076
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure if this is actually

2077
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 1: supported on iPad, but it's called photop dot com Photo

2078
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 1: p EA, and it's a Photoshop clone. It looks just

2079
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: like Photoshop. You can do everything you can do with

2080
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: that you can do in Photoshop in this app. It's great.

2081
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: Definitely check it out. And if you can't sketch with it,

2082
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: which I believe you can, you can certainly go ahead

2083
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: and edit your sketches and add embellishments to them. So

2084
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: check that out. Okay, wow, that looks like how do

2085
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: you know it's not called photo pia?

2086
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2087
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

2088
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: Actually okay, I was calling it that for a while

2089
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 1: and then someone said photo pi, So I don't know.

2090
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Try out. Vincent into Hunga, California, wrote in and said,

2091
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: my friend has a hard time reading his text messages.

2092
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: Is there any way for the phone to read them

2093
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,719
Speaker 1: out loud for him? He has an Android? Uh yes,

2094
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: there is a feature, an accessibility feature called select to Speak.

2095
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 2: Did you know about this? I did not.

2096
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you if you look in the accessibility section

2097
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,719
Speaker 1: of the settings on your on your phone iPhone or Android,

2098
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: there are so many hidden features that can help you

2099
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 1: use your phone, especially if you have any sort of

2100
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 1: you know, a varying ability. This one's a really great one.

2101
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: So I tried it on Android. Works perfectly. Once you

2102
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 1: turn it on, you tap anything on your screen and

2103
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: it will just read it out loud to you. And

2104
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: it's really good to get. Yeah, it's called select to Speak.

2105
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: All right, Do you have one more before we get

2106
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: to the feedback?

2107
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 5: Uh?

2108
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2109
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? So Sam from Fort Collins Colorado rights in I've

2110
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: I've had Yahoo forever, and I'm glad to here they're

2111
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: doing some updating. I receive many spam emails every day,

2112
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 1: mostly most recently offering free awards that require completing surveys.

2113
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 1: He's tried unsubscribing from each one, which takes forever, and

2114
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: he recently started blocking emails. Is there a better way

2115
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: to get rid of all these spam emails?

2116
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 2: All right, I'll let you go first.

2117
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: What do you think? So my number one thing is

2118
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 1: to switch to Gmail if you can.

2119
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 2: Okay, he doesn't want to do that.

2120
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 1: I guarantee you sure you get all of his emails

2121
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: in Yahoo. Yeah, and I totally understand that. I get it.

2122
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: There's something you could do called plus addressing, which is

2123
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 1: a lot of times when you sign up for something,

2124
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: you make a new account somewhere, they sell your data,

2125
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 1: which includes your email address, to advertisers, and then you

2126
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: start getting spam emails. If you add a plus symbol

2127
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: at the end of your address, like say it's sam

2128
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: plus website at yahoo dot com, you will see that

2129
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: when you get all these emails coming to you from

2130
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: that plus address, you'll see where you wrote it from.

2131
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,759
Speaker 1: So it's definitely. That's something that I use for almost

2132
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: every website right now, and you can see if any

2133
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 1: spam is coming from a website that you signed up for. Now,

2134
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at some support online. I don't know if

2135
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: Yahoo supports the plus, so be sure to check to

2136
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: see if your email provider supports it, but they might

2137
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: also they might also support temporary email addresses, so if

2138
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: you just need there's also a website. I think it's

2139
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 1: called ten Minute Mail. Have you heard of that one?

2140
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: So ten minute Mail. You go to this website and

2141
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: it basically gives you a ten minute email address, so

2142
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: you can go on there and it gives you this

2143
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: random email address and basically once you do that, let's

2144
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: see here, you've got a countdown of ten minutes, and

2145
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: you see this email address, just some random email address.

2146
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 1: You can put that in and then the email that

2147
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: you get will arrive on the website. So if you

2148
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:52,719
Speaker 1: just want to sign up, I also use duck dot com,

2149
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: so I've I guess I can say that the email

2150
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 1: I have I don't know if I should say it,

2151
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: but I have an email address at duck dot com.

2152
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: You can put that in there and that it's another

2153
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of temporary disposable email address. My rule of thumb

2154
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to spam, unsubscribe to anything, be brutal anything.

2155
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: Let's say you just signed up for like home Details,

2156
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: home depots, ten ten percent off or whatever. Right, just

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Speaker 1: But thank you Justin, thanks for being on, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. That's my brother, Justin Demiro. That's going to

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Speaker 1: Next week I'll take you to Vigcon twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: that's happening in Anaheim. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible, especially complex

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Speaker 1: remote shows like this, Kim Bobo, the engineers, everyone, Justin,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 2: My name is rich Darmiro. Talk to you real soon.

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Speaker 1: Justin I'll give you the last words.

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Speaker 2: Did you have fun.

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Speaker 1: I had a great time. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 3: Mhm