WEBVTT - Hip-Hop and Humanitarianism

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Family? Is your girl to Mika D Mallory is.

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<v Speaker 2>Your boy, my son general.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are your host of street politicians, the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the streets and politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Means my son Leonard I.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of our scheduling today, we have our guests coming

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<v Speaker 3>on a little earlier than we thought, so we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to cut some things.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's okay with me because I have one thing

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<v Speaker 3>in my thought of the day that I would like

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about today on this year show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, are you trying to get straight to the nitty

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<v Speaker 2>gritty going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Make some people upset? I believe in holistic wellness.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents rarely gave us medication because they believe wholeheartedly

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<v Speaker 3>in holistic wellness. Right now, when we travel to Africa,

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<v Speaker 3>we learn that in the garden they grow different types

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<v Speaker 3>of medicines that are currently being used for things that

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<v Speaker 3>we use in terms of actual medicine, not just holistically today.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the ingredients pretty much the ingredients medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>So anesthesia is growing in.

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<v Speaker 3>The gardens of Africa, specifically in Ghana. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>that if you go to get a leg arm amputated,

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<v Speaker 3>you two quo whatever baby have a not a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>But certainly if you have termination of pregnancy, if you

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<v Speaker 3>have any type of search be that requires you to

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<v Speaker 3>go under, you have to use anesthesia in order to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to do that. And the sesia can be

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<v Speaker 3>very dangerous too, which is why when we were in

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<v Speaker 3>in the botanical gardens in Ghana, the gentleman said, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't touch it, play with it tasted nothing right until

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<v Speaker 3>and I asked the dumb question, well, how do you

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<v Speaker 3>just have it out here? What if someone puts it

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<v Speaker 3>in their mouth? And he's like, well, why would anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Be eating trees?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, okay, see again, those are

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<v Speaker 3>negative or stereotypes that get into your head about Africans.

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<v Speaker 3>And it came out of me right there in the

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<v Speaker 3>park in the garden. But if you're gonna get something

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<v Speaker 3>serious surgery done, you need your anesthesia so that you

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<v Speaker 3>can not die from pain. I think there are people

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<v Speaker 3>in our society that need to take their medicine, or

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't know that they need a medicine, they

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<v Speaker 3>need to get it. And if there is a holistic

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<v Speaker 3>way to approach their conditions, then they need to go

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<v Speaker 3>heavy into that as well. And sometimes holistically we might

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<v Speaker 3>not have the right formulas.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever, but you need your medicine.

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<v Speaker 3>People need their insulin right once they have diabetes that

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<v Speaker 3>gets to a certain level, they have to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to take their insulin. Yes, you could clean your body.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother definitely with her diabetes. Her and my father

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<v Speaker 3>got on an extreme workout schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven miles a day, walking in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>They ate better, They did all the things you could

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<v Speaker 3>think of, and they were able to change ther trajectory

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<v Speaker 3>of her diabetic situation very much so. But she still

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<v Speaker 3>needed her medication to help with some of the other challenges.

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<v Speaker 3>She was seeing things on her hand, you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>was feeling like when she was cooking, it was worms

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<v Speaker 3>and different things because she was having hallucinations because of

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<v Speaker 3>the diabetes. So I'm saying today that there are people

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<v Speaker 3>out here that need to take their medicine. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not talking about will Wile Willie who's running up and

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<v Speaker 3>down the street, because you know, we often will say, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>people need to take their medicine, and we assume were

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<v Speaker 3>associated with somebody who's just you know, out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>They look like they tripping, and we say they need

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<v Speaker 3>to take medicine. There are people who are high functioning, depressed,

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<v Speaker 3>they have anxiety, they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Dealing with mental health issues.

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<v Speaker 3>They're high functioning, they look wonderful, they look perfect, got

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<v Speaker 3>it going on, dressed nice and all of that, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're nasty, nasty attitudes, miserable, negative, damn there, ready to

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<v Speaker 3>die by suicide, eating disorders. There's a lot of signs

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<v Speaker 3>that people are dealing with mental health challenges that are

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<v Speaker 3>not getting addressed. People do not have the right formula,

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<v Speaker 3>and as a result, we are dealing with a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of crazy things. And I of course can't tell the

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<v Speaker 3>story of right now or at all of what it

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<v Speaker 3>is that I experience that made me feel this way,

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<v Speaker 3>but it really is on me that we have to

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<v Speaker 3>start encouraging people to seek professional help for a variety

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<v Speaker 3>of issues that you may be dealing with and get

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<v Speaker 3>the type of help necessary now. At one point, I

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<v Speaker 3>had a doctor that wanted to put me on riddily

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<v Speaker 3>when I was really depressed, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I chose not to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But we found something else, and I take that medicine

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<v Speaker 3>and it is very helpful to me to keep me

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<v Speaker 3>balanced so that my anxiety does not take over to

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm aggravating you, aggravating everybody, lending everybody around. I

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<v Speaker 3>got an attitude. I'm snappy, I'm not feeling good. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't rest. People need to take their medicine.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I agree, I agree, you know, I also

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<v Speaker 4>agree that a lot of shit is mind state.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. There are a lot of different individuals. There's some

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<v Speaker 2>individuals that they required that they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to fix it theirselves. Right, They're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able a dollar back. Right. There are some people

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<v Speaker 2>that need to go to or rehab. Right. There are

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<v Speaker 2>some people that don't need to go to rehab.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people say I'm gonna kick this ship by myself

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<v Speaker 4>and then completely stop doing it. Some people are sick

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<v Speaker 4>that you they've been diagnosed with sickness and they've been

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<v Speaker 4>able to holistically change their their trajectory. Other people can't

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<v Speaker 4>do it. So I think it's it's individual based, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you have to know you. I think you

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<v Speaker 4>you you have to be able to make proper assessments

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<v Speaker 4>of yourself like and then and then if you, if

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<v Speaker 4>you have the right doctor, then they'll be able to

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<v Speaker 4>make that assessment. Right, They'll be able to make an

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<v Speaker 4>assessment and say, wow, you've been doing what I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you don't need this medication. You know, maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be those.

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<v Speaker 1>Pharmaceutical companies are not inclined.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell you nothing. Now I'm not talking what the pharma.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctors work for. The pharmaceutical companies.

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<v Speaker 4>Depends on the doctor that you have, right if if

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<v Speaker 4>you if you have somebody that you you believe in

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<v Speaker 4>that's properly invested in you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've had doctors that have said, don't take that medication.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, doctors that have said, oh, they said, give

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<v Speaker 2>the kids, don't give them that ship. No, we not prescribe,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you none of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Just let that baby do this and take the baby

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<v Speaker 4>home and give them this and make sure they eat

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<v Speaker 4>this way. So there are doctors who are personally invested

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<v Speaker 4>in your safety over then just selling medication.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you know, like you said, there are people

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<v Speaker 2>who need it.

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<v Speaker 4>There are people who are not going to be at

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<v Speaker 4>a function with all medication because it's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way that they're wired.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm myself, I'm a person that's very rarely had medication,

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<v Speaker 4>Like with the exception of me having a toothache, Like

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<v Speaker 4>the toothache was probably the only thing that I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>said to myself, I got to take some painkillers for

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<v Speaker 4>because the shit was dramatically or allergies, with the exception

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<v Speaker 4>of me taking xytext because the shit is just my

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<v Speaker 4>eyes is watering to the point and there's no way,

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<v Speaker 4>no shit I could do they issue to the point.

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<v Speaker 4>With the exception of those two things, there's very rarely

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<v Speaker 4>a time that medication was something that I was into.

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<v Speaker 3>Well maybe, and that's okay, suggesting everybody needs medication, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not suggesting that they are not again holistic ways

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with your issues, because there certainly can be,

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<v Speaker 3>because I you know, one thing I know for sure

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<v Speaker 3>is that when dealing with my son typer activity when

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<v Speaker 3>he was young, the main thing the doctors kept saying

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<v Speaker 3>to me is, if you don't want to put him

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<v Speaker 3>on medication, you have to stop the sugar intake. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't let him have a bowl of cereal at home

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<v Speaker 3>or a French toast with syrup and then send him

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<v Speaker 3>to school, because when he gets to school, he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be high and then low, and there's all types

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<v Speaker 3>of agitation that goes on in between it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta do vegetables.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to start out with an egg sausage, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>cup of milk, whatever it is that helps them to

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<v Speaker 3>feel better and not be you know, feel full, but

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<v Speaker 3>not be so.

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<v Speaker 1>Rouled up.

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<v Speaker 3>So I understand that. I'm just saying that there are

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<v Speaker 3>some people who have not even because you made a

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<v Speaker 3>powerful point, made an assessment of what's wrong with them.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't even understand the issue, but they just go

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<v Speaker 3>out in the world making other people's lives miserable. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just think, you know, it's just got to be

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<v Speaker 3>it's just got to be a better way. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just suggesting that people find out what you mean. Right

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<v Speaker 3>if you and your family members saying wow, like you're

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<v Speaker 3>so mean, or you're in the workplace and you feel

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<v Speaker 3>like people don't really want to deal with you for

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<v Speaker 3>some reason, or you find yourself feeling like you're always alone,

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<v Speaker 3>like in your you know, you're always like at odds

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<v Speaker 3>with the people around you who you should have positive

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part, relationships with, or you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>find yourself constantly hearing from people that you offended them,

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<v Speaker 3>or you upset them or whatever. You try to find

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<v Speaker 3>out is there something going on with maybe I'm dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with depression and therefore it makes me negative. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>think negatively all the time. That's actually an issue. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to say it's a mental health crisis, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's an issue. You automatically come from a negative place

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<v Speaker 3>when you respond. That's not healthy, right, And a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people don't even know because we've never been taught

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<v Speaker 3>about the signs of mental health challenges. We've never been

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<v Speaker 3>taught about anxiety. Like white folks know that is a thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>they get medicated for anxiety, they get therapy for anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>Black folks have been dealing with anxiety for eons and

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<v Speaker 3>we've never been taught that. We never knew what it

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<v Speaker 3>meant to have hypertension issues as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>We never knew.

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<v Speaker 3>And we really do need to try to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the core of some of the issues we have. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you need medication, take it. And if your medication

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<v Speaker 3>makes you feel funny, because some people when they take

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<v Speaker 3>medicine it makes them feel tired or not themselves, they

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<v Speaker 3>can change it, but you have to be committed to

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<v Speaker 3>who trying different things and figuring out what is the

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<v Speaker 3>right formula for me. You can't take one medicine and

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<v Speaker 3>be like that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I'm not gonna do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to do your research, but you got

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<v Speaker 3>to be committed to your well being and your men's.

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<v Speaker 1>Wealth for real.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Well on that note.

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<v Speaker 3>Our guest is already here, so let's bring them in

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<v Speaker 3>and introduce them. Okay, family, So speaking of our friends,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you hear us all the time with our

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<v Speaker 3>inside outside joke that so many of our friends are

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<v Speaker 3>doing powerful things across this nation, and we bring them

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<v Speaker 3>on as our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's our show, So we do it how we want,

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<v Speaker 3>and we invite our friends to come and talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the work they're doing. And you know, we have an

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<v Speaker 3>incredible change maker who's joining us today who is a

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<v Speaker 3>friend to us personally as well as a friend to

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<v Speaker 3>the community in New Jersey abroad, the entire New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 3>but of course in Newark. And that's Counselman Do Pray Kelly,

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<v Speaker 3>who is better known to most of us as Do

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<v Speaker 3>It All. So we're gonna get into some special things

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<v Speaker 3>about what this gentleman has been able to do going

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<v Speaker 3>from being a platinum selling artist to the first the

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<v Speaker 3>first person to go from being an artist at that

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<v Speaker 3>level to being elected to a political office in the

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<v Speaker 3>city of Newark, New Jersey, and so, as I said,

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<v Speaker 3>he's making waves across the country, certainly across the state

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<v Speaker 3>of New Jersey, but specifically focusing on his activism which

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<v Speaker 3>has turned into his political career in the city of Newark,

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Counselman for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you Samika, Thank you Mice for having me.

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<v Speaker 6>I really appreciate all the work that you guys have

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<v Speaker 6>been doing over the years. You know, it's very special

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<v Speaker 6>as needed. So I salute you guys as well and

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<v Speaker 6>say thank you. And before we even begin, man, I

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<v Speaker 6>just want to say, we just got some bad news

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<v Speaker 6>here in New York, New Jersey. I just want to

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<v Speaker 6>say rest in peace to our Lieutenant governor. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>Oliver passed away today. I'm sure you both of you

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<v Speaker 6>probably met, yeah, you know. And I think she you know,

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<v Speaker 6>she's all about that woman empowerment and having our black

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<v Speaker 6>sisters do their things.

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<v Speaker 5>So I know she was a big fan of yours, speaker.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I just wanted to say rest in peace

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<v Speaker 6>today to her and her family and condolences to her family.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go out to her and who whole state in

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<v Speaker 2>New York City. York, Man, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, so let's get all into it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that folks are going to want to know

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<v Speaker 3>about some of the specific work you're doing there in Newark,

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<v Speaker 3>But I really want to hear first of all as do.

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<v Speaker 1>It or I want to hear from Do It All.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about that transition, and it was their transitional. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just another stage and level in your life. And you

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<v Speaker 3>still feel extremely connected to the culture, to the music,

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<v Speaker 3>which I believe that you do. But what it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like to be the first to go from being a

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<v Speaker 3>platinum selling artist to now being an elected official. What

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<v Speaker 3>are the great things about it? And what are some

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<v Speaker 3>of the areas that you feel are a little difficult

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<v Speaker 3>and challenging.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, first of all, I'm never going to stop

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<v Speaker 6>being hip hop ever, you know, I tell people that

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<v Speaker 6>I am with hip hop looks like growing up, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I get to govern in the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Blocks that I grew up on. I mean, born and

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<v Speaker 5>raised in these areas.

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<v Speaker 6>I get to governose streets where I jumped gates and

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<v Speaker 6>ran from police and was involved in mischief and also

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<v Speaker 6>those same blocks where I learned how to galvanize people

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, pass out community events and get involved

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<v Speaker 6>in community events.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's the same.

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<v Speaker 6>Area that myself and Red Men set on my porch

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<v Speaker 6>and we talked about when we were ten years old.

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<v Speaker 5>We talked about the changes we were going to bring

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<v Speaker 5>to our community.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why manifestation and words are powerful because we talked

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<v Speaker 6>about that. And it's only really powerful to me just

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<v Speaker 6>because in hindsight of actually living it and doing it now.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's just an amazing thing that I get to

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<v Speaker 6>I get to allow of. You know, I've done some

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<v Speaker 6>things that made my mother have a you know, disgusting

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<v Speaker 6>a face when I was younger and I was able

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<v Speaker 6>to see that, I guess the the you know, lack

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<v Speaker 6>of better word, see that frown turn upside down, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And and through my work in the community, through my

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<v Speaker 6>work as a hip hop artist. I have to give

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of props to my first manager, Hot Feast

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<v Speaker 6>for Reid, who managed Laws of the Underground Muslim brother.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when you think about Laws of the Underground,

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't really curse too much in our records. We

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<v Speaker 5>never really called women the B word.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, which was good when I started the

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<v Speaker 6>campaign because they didn't have anything negative to reflect on

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<v Speaker 6>from my hip hop career.

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<v Speaker 5>And he really he really kept us on point.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, here he has three three black males, three

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<v Speaker 6>black men who come from single mother homes, who didn't have.

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<v Speaker 5>Fathers in the house. He became our dad on the road.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you know, we got money early.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, especially when you get money, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>come with instructions, especially when you never had any money.

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<v Speaker 6>So he was that guy that kind of kept us grounded.

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<v Speaker 6>And he would say stuff like this. You know, if

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<v Speaker 6>I said something with a B word in a song,

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<v Speaker 6>he would say, oh, that's dope.

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<v Speaker 5>Who are you talking about your mother? Your grandmother? And

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<v Speaker 5>I would get defensive, like you me and my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 6>He said, well, see just the way that you just

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<v Speaker 6>swoll up when I when I asked, was that about

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<v Speaker 6>your mother?

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<v Speaker 5>People are gonna if.

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<v Speaker 6>You disrespect women, that's how they're gonna feel when they

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<v Speaker 6>hit that word or so he challenged us. But he

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<v Speaker 6>never told us to change anything, you know, he just

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<v Speaker 6>challenged us to be better, to think differently, to change

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<v Speaker 6>the mindset. And one time, you know, in this documented

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<v Speaker 6>I've been wearing NORK on my power and clothes for

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<v Speaker 6>you know, since I was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm fifty two now, you know. So it was just like, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, it was you know.

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<v Speaker 6>So one day he asked me in the studio, he said,

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<v Speaker 6>what have you done for nork Lady got defensive again.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, oh, I wear NOWK on my hast. I

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<v Speaker 7>got it on my clothes. I always represent on every

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<v Speaker 7>television show. He was like, no, I didn't ask you

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<v Speaker 7>about representing. I asked you, what have you done for

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<v Speaker 7>the city of North Lady.

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<v Speaker 6>And I really didn't have an answer, you know, And

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<v Speaker 6>it hit me like, wow, here it is. I'm bragging

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<v Speaker 6>about my city and I'm pulling and taking away from

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<v Speaker 6>my city, but I'm not pouring it back into my city,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. And I started to take my hip hop money,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and try everything right, everything from community you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the book back drive, the Turkey giveaways, all of the

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<v Speaker 6>low hanging fruit stuff, which is important, but in the

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<v Speaker 6>community world, it's really the low hanging fruit stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just started to do that, and by doing that,

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<v Speaker 6>it started putting me at the doorsteps of the residents

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<v Speaker 6>and my friends and my family again, and they started

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<v Speaker 6>to see that I was serious, and they asked me

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<v Speaker 6>to be the voice. Just asked me to be the

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<v Speaker 6>voice through hip hop, you know, talk for them and

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<v Speaker 6>use hip hop to get the message across in the

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<v Speaker 6>you know, in the community.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what we did, just just through hip hop. Man.

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<v Speaker 6>So the neighborhood that I'm from, you know, Rod Diggers

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<v Speaker 6>from there, Queen Latif was from there, Redman's from there,

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<v Speaker 6>the artifacts, it's just so many people. So like I say,

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<v Speaker 6>it's you know, this is what hip hop looks like

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<v Speaker 6>growing up. It was just a natural transition. And on

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<v Speaker 6>the other hand, you know, people love you until they don't.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, everybody wants you to win, and you guys

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<v Speaker 6>know about it. People when you're doing great things, you

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<v Speaker 6>assume that, oh, we're doing great things, everybody's.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to be happy.

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<v Speaker 6>And then when you get into it and the other one,

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<v Speaker 6>then you start to understand and respectfully, how Malcolm X

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<v Speaker 6>was killed, Howard Martin was killed, because you would think, like,

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<v Speaker 6>why would somebody want to hurt somebody that's doing something good?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, But you know, you have your opposers, and

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<v Speaker 6>people with your opposition and people with different you know,

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<v Speaker 6>mindsets and different views and ideas that just don't match

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<v Speaker 6>up with yours. So I think, you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 6>going from hip hop to community, that's cool. That was

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's easy in the sense I did realize that

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<v Speaker 6>community has a ceiling to it.

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<v Speaker 5>When you're doing community things.

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<v Speaker 6>And when it comes to fostering change and then governance,

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<v Speaker 6>I had to find my footing, you know. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 6>it's been a little over a year. I had to

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<v Speaker 6>find my footing and I'm still learning, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>still learning. But the politics is the part that is

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not really happy with it. And I know my

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<v Speaker 6>team always tell me stop saying that you don't like

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<v Speaker 6>politics in politics now, which is true. But I still

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<v Speaker 6>don't like the movement of it at times, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>because I don't. I don't come from the politics, but

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<v Speaker 6>the politics is in all of those things. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>a it's a it's not an easy task, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>a worthy task.

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<v Speaker 5>It's worth it, you know, I tell people all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, my partners, my DJ he lives in a

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<v Speaker 6>beautiful mansion in Miami. My other rap partner, he has

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<v Speaker 6>a beautiful home in northern California. I live in one

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<v Speaker 6>of my buildings on right in the hood, right in

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<v Speaker 6>Central Avenue in Newark, New Jersey, and I'm right in

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<v Speaker 6>the mix.

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<v Speaker 4>How is that? How does that like? How does that

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<v Speaker 4>feel like? Being amongst the people?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you feel like they receive you better? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>feel like, like, how do you feel living amongst the people?

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. You know, I don't have to be here.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said it's your own building, so.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm in partnership with you know. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't even tell everybody some of the things that I'm

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<v Speaker 6>in partnership with the.

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<v Speaker 5>City because we got a lot of haters.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, yes, yes, you know it's our properties,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. So we're working, man, it's

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<v Speaker 6>us being part of our own community. And to answer

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<v Speaker 6>your question might sound like I love it because I'm

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<v Speaker 6>right there with the people. And it can be difficult

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<v Speaker 6>at times because this you're so accessible and you have

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<v Speaker 6>to be careful, you know, because you can't think that

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<v Speaker 6>everything is good, because history has showed that your own

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<v Speaker 6>people would be the ones.

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<v Speaker 5>That to get you up out of there.

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<v Speaker 6>And I mean, like I said, It goes from all

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<v Speaker 6>of our people that we love, our advocates, the people

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<v Speaker 6>who fought for us, down to Nipsey Hustle, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>who was writing his own neighborhood and you would think, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>you're safe in your own neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm always aware.

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<v Speaker 6>And the way that I interact with them is firm,

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<v Speaker 6>it's fair.

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<v Speaker 5>And they know me, but don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't take anything for granted, you know, because anything

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<v Speaker 6>is possible. I don't have twenty security guards rolling with me.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have one security guard role.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I got a couple of my dudes who when we

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<v Speaker 6>go to certain things that make sure that I'm good.

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<v Speaker 5>The neighborhood makes sure that I'm good, but I make

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<v Speaker 5>sure that I'm not in.

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<v Speaker 6>Those places unless I have to be in those places

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<v Speaker 6>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, what do you think it's been your biggest challenge,

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest challenge making that trend? What is your biggest

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<v Speaker 4>challenge you feel, and then what is the thing that

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<v Speaker 4>you that you enjoy most.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 6>My big My biggest challenge is navigating through the politics

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<v Speaker 6>my sign and Tamika Mallory has a different opinion than

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<v Speaker 6>me on one thing. That doesn't mean I don't like

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<v Speaker 6>them or like they're there, what they're doing. We just

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<v Speaker 6>disagree on maybe one thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But if that thing is goes against the team.

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<v Speaker 6>Of whatever team I'm associated with, and I take a

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<v Speaker 6>picture with you guys, it's like, well, why do you

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<v Speaker 6>want to picture with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Game?

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<v Speaker 5>My son? You know what I don't I don't like that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a real thing that you're saying.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a real thing, you know, And it's just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of learning how to maneuver through the politics of it all.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's that's my biggest task, you know, when people

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<v Speaker 6>are I never had so many people scream at me

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<v Speaker 6>or you know, I've had people not like a record.

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<v Speaker 6>We still giving each other a pound, We keep it moving.

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<v Speaker 6>They might still buy the record or still come to

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<v Speaker 6>the show. I have people say, you know, I ain't

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<v Speaker 6>really feel the record, but when I saw you on stage, man,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not that way. In politics, they just you know,

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 6>I was in office for a month and they were

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<v Speaker 6>just hating me, you know what I mean, like some

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 6>people and then you got to realize that those are

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<v Speaker 6>five people, or those are people who don't even vote,

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 6>or those are people who don't even do anything themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>So you got to learn how to quiet out the noise.

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<v Speaker 6>And I had to learn, you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 6>be in council meetings responding everything, well it's that, and

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<v Speaker 6>then they you know, I had to learn that I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just fueling them to continue their instead of just not

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<v Speaker 6>you know, just kind of blocking out the white noise

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 6>and keeping the receipts for the work that I do

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 6>and showing up and being present, you know, because you

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 6>can say you don't like something, but you can't tell

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<v Speaker 6>me that it's not my truth.

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:16.679
<v Speaker 5>You can't tell me that I'm not president.

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 6>You can't tell me that I'm not putting in the work,

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<v Speaker 6>whether it we you know, produces a great result, a

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<v Speaker 6>minimum result, a small result. You can't tell me that

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not doing things to push it forward. And as

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<v Speaker 6>long as I keep the receipts, you know, I'm cool.

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 6>And the thing that I do like.

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<v Speaker 5>Mice is that.

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<v Speaker 2>To see the smile, to see the.

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<v Speaker 5>Difference that I make when I do the work.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm talking about from the smallest thing to autism

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<v Speaker 6>signs to getting the bus stop moved for miss Williams

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<v Speaker 6>because she's elderly and she has to walk in from

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<v Speaker 6>three blocks, but getting it moved to the middle of

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.640
<v Speaker 6>her block just makes it comfort for her to put

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<v Speaker 6>stop signs on a block where a lady in the

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<v Speaker 6>motorized wheelchairs is moving along, to actually creating ordnesses that

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<v Speaker 6>help our residents fight against greedy.

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.479
<v Speaker 5>Landlords and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's so many different things that on the municipal

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<v Speaker 6>level that I love. I really think that the local

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 6>politics actually trickle up, you know, because I think that

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 6>the things that we do here makes the state react.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 5>The things that we do here makes the county react.

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 6>The things that we do here ultimately makes the federal

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<v Speaker 6>government react.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's one hundred one is well, you can

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<v Speaker 3>answer that.

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<v Speaker 2>Second.

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<v Speaker 3>The first question is how how does having a mayor

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<v Speaker 3>who supports your vision. I'm sure maybe not all the time,

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 3>but he ultimately has an empowerment agenda and he comes

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<v Speaker 3>from activism himself.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that help you or how does.

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<v Speaker 3>That make you feel when you're out trying to do

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<v Speaker 3>your work that you're not in opposition to the leader

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 3>of your city. Because there are many council members who

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 3>are fighting to get things done to change, as you said,

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<v Speaker 3>the city ordinances, the bus stop, all the things you

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<v Speaker 3>talked about, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems perfectly.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Common sense, right, Like, it's just common sense these things

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<v Speaker 3>should happen.

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>And then you're up against a mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>Who does not have the city's best interests at heart

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<v Speaker 3>from your perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me one about that, and then I'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>my second question.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to say, man, salute, double salute to the

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 6>honorable Mayor j Barako. I was out with Raz, fighting.

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<v Speaker 5>With him when we were just young lords of the underground.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>He would call on me to have social media like

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 6>that back then, so he would call on me, he

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 6>would call on red Man, he would call on us

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 6>to galvanize the people. Yo, I'm shutting down the street.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 6>He was just a young activist. I'm shutting down this street.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna be talking about this. I'm making a list

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<v Speaker 6>of demands. What are some of your demands in your community?

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 6>Because we're giving this to the administration, you know, So

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<v Speaker 6>to see him go from that a list of demands

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<v Speaker 6>to actually putting the people in place and feeling check

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<v Speaker 6>doing check check marks, checking off some of those things

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 6>that were on that those demands is amazing to me.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 6>To have an ally and not an OP as they

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 6>say out here, is beautiful. It's a lot of reasons

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 6>why I ran, but I knew that I can add

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<v Speaker 6>value to the administration of who team Baraka is.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 5>You know who they are, and he knows that.

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 6>Even when I lost in twenty eighteen, that wasn't before

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 6>a meeting with him and he was like, dude, I'm

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, politically, my list is already filled up, My

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 6>team is already filled. But you will make a great

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<v Speaker 6>council councilman in this city and I will back you.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he's always been supportive when he was an activist,

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 6>He's been supportive when he was a mayor. He was

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 6>supportive of my nonprofit organization, and when he asked me

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 6>to be on his team ultimately he was He's supportive.

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<v Speaker 6>I just I literally just came out of a meeting

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 6>with him and him being supportive, me talking to some

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 6>personnel here in the city hall about things that we

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 6>need in our community and me having more tension with

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 6>them or go and not bad at tension, just about

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 6>the process of getting those things done.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 5>And this guy is fighting for me.

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 6>This mayor he's fighting for me, like, no, we need

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<v Speaker 6>to get this to happen.

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 5>And he's one that stood alongside me.

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<v Speaker 6>And fought for a rapper to become an elected official.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 6>Like he's forward thinking and you're right to me. I

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 6>might not agree with everything with him, but we have

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 6>conversations about it too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll give you an instance, because I think it was

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<v Speaker 6>blown out of proportion.

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<v Speaker 5>There's George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a George Floyd statue on the steps of our

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<v Speaker 6>city hall. I am for the George Floyd movement one thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>Percent right, and I stand with it and fight with it.

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<v Speaker 6>I just had a different ideology about where the statue

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<v Speaker 6>should be because of the impact. So I said, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>we should have and maybe I should have did it

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<v Speaker 6>a little more privately, you know, but like I'm learning,

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<v Speaker 6>But I said, maybe we should put it on our

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<v Speaker 6>new police academy, so when all of those new police

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 6>officers come in there, they see that as a reminder

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<v Speaker 6>of what not to do and what to be a

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<v Speaker 6>part of. And he came back and said, I respect that, dude,

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<v Speaker 6>but I put it on the steps of our of

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<v Speaker 6>our city for a reminder of the people who has

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<v Speaker 6>the power in this city and and and I was

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<v Speaker 6>just like, wow, okay, I knew what he was talking about,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, and I was and I respected what he

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<v Speaker 6>what he said. I didn't agree initially aware the placement,

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 6>but in reality we both agreed when it comes to

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<v Speaker 6>George Floyd, you know what I mean, things like that

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 6>man and.

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<v Speaker 4>Crazy because I was I was literally in the off

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 4>in city city Hall having a meeting with MIDI when

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<v Speaker 4>you when that happened here sending him text.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh my god, what happened with you?

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, what happens? Yeah.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 4>He's like, oh man, they don't want he don't They say,

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 4>he don't want George Floyd.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I don't think. I can't believe. Yeah,

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and you.

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Talked about that.

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<v Speaker 3>You also said something else that I think is powerful,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think that we can, you know, sort

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>of blossover that there are also people from the state

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<v Speaker 3>of New Jersey who have unfortunately experienced abuse, murder at

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<v Speaker 3>the hands of police and e me placement as well.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't disagree with that. I think

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that's also true.

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<v Speaker 3>And so perhaps the meeting of the minds is to

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<v Speaker 3>create some type of memorial outside of the Academy that

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 3>has the names of local New Jersey residents who have

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>also experienced the same type, maybe not exactly as George Floyd.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 3>We know that George Floyd is bigger than George Floyd.

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he represents that moment, represents a.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Moment in history where the.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Entire world has had to acknowledge the racial discrimination, the oppression,

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 3>the abuse, you know, state sanctioned violence, all of those

0:32:56.800 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>things at once. But there are other people who need

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 3>their voices lifted as well. And I think that your

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 3>idea is something that in the next council you should

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 3>be pushing some type of memorial outside of the Academy

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 3>that that you know, really looks at some of those

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 3>other individuals and their stories.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the point is that we should.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 3>And one of the things about politics that I think

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 3>upsets a lot of people, makes them feel that they

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 3>don't want to participate, is one that compromise is very

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 3>difficult for people in their regular lives, in their regular

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 3>And I know that you know, one of the things

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say to you earlier, but you were saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you were speaking it was so good that

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to cut you off. But you know,

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 3>I know that that even though y'all didn't say a

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of Curtis words and whatever, you definitely were not

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 3>people that need to be played with.

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Right. So now when you're trying.

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 3>To talk to people and they talking crazy to you,

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 3>you kind of like, yo, like like I don't know

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 3>where I'm gonna go with this, Like I'm trying to

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 3>be the counsel person, but but you're trying to take

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 3>me to an old thing that I'm trying to get

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 3>away from. So that's an issue because in compromise, you know,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's difficult for people to hear one another, to

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 3>respect one another, and compromise, and then what happens is

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>the whole system shuts down, and the voters, the frustrated

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 3>voters of our society see the shutdown and they are like,

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 3>to hell with it. You shut down, and I'm going

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 3>to shut down too. So everybody has a shutdown. So

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 3>the thing I think about Ross or mayor Baraka that

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 3>we appreciate is that he is very good at navigating tension.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes he is.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 3>He is people moving despite the fact that there may

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 3>be difference of opinions and a lot of different issues

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 3>because he's dealing with a lot of people coming from

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 3>the most radical to the most conservative side of the spectrum,

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 3>all all of them trying to come together, and he's

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>really good at navigating that.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think.

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>You're in a great city to be your first year

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.919
<v Speaker 3>as a councilman, you know what I'm saying. I think

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 3>because there's a lot of other places. If you were

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 3>here in New York under Mayor Bloomberg, you might have

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 3>been in jail.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah definitely.

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 6>And you know, I just want to I just like,

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 6>once again, I want to thank them because I don't

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 6>I don't walk like them, I don't talk like them.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't even dress like them.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 6>But I can see my inspiration and my influence starting

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 6>to influence the entire city Hall. And that's just it's

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 6>not just me, it's the culture that we come from,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 6>that hip hop culture.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 6>I got wearing sneakers with suits with from Russell Simmons go,

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, and I just did it. I didn't make

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 6>it up, but I tell you this, My mayor now

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 6>does it. Everybody in this building does it. And that's

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 6>just to say that the power of who we are

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 6>as people, who we are in the community, and my

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 6>my my governance now me as an elected official, I

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 6>just pray that that not only to the people in

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 6>city Hall, but to the people who are outside of

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 6>city Hall, the people who are in the neighborhoods. Because

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 6>I think when you change your mindset, you change your viewpoint,

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 6>you change advantage point of different things. And I just

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 6>believe like when you can change that into love, When

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 6>you love something, you treat it differently, right, you know,

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 6>when you love your city, you can change it. That's

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 6>what I believe. But a lot of people don't love themselves.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 6>And sometimes when you don't understand something, you push it away,

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, you shun it, like, oh no I don't

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't, I don't eat that, but you never taste it.

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 6>Oh I don't want to go there, but you've never

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 6>been there. I don't want to, you know, So it's

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 6>we push it away. And I think that a lot

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 6>of people, they really don't understand the process of politics

0:36:58.600 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 6>in our city.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 5>So you know, you'll get people coming to the council

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 5>meetings and they're.

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<v Speaker 8>Loud but wrong, you know, But I mean they're very loud,

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 8>and the people like yeah, and I'm like, yeah, but

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 8>Google is.

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not just it's just your city. It's politics, period.

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 4>Rights people don't understand politics. They just think we want

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 4>this to go this way, and it should just be

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 4>you be able to snap a finger.

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 2>We voted you in and you need to just be

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 2>able to do this right.

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 4>And I used to be one of those people, right

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 4>until I started having friends like yourself, having friends like

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 4>Jimiani Williams, who is the Public Advocate of New York,

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Natasha Williams who's also city council in Queens, and just a.

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Plethora of other individuals who work in government.

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I started to understand that the things that we wanted

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 4>weren't as simple as we thought they were. You know,

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 4>it's not just you snap a finger. We vote you

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 4>and you should be able to do whatever you want.

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 4>And when you start understanding that reality, you start looking

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 4>at things different. So I've had those conversations with people,

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I've had it and then they be like, nah,

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 4>you don't and I'm like, no, you don't understand.

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Is the process that it goes through.

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we have to continue to push our elected officials

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 4>and make sure that they advocate on our side and

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 4>make sure that they're doing what they said. But it's

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 4>not I'm always up to them the ship that you

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 4>think supposed to.

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 2>So you can't just put all the blame on them.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 4>But people don't want to hear that when when you're

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 4>living in the community, whe people are frustrated, people are hungry,

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 4>they pour it's a lot of things going on me

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 4>and to me just having this conversation yesterday, that it's a.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Lot going on with people.

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 4>People are in so many different it's so many like

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 4>we get calls, DMS, emails, so many different people that's

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 4>dealing with so much different trauma and stress, and you

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 4>know things are not going right and they looking for

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 4>somebody to blame.

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 5>You know what.

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 4>A lot of times we get to blame account hold accountability,

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 4>just want accountability. But there's also some people that just

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 4>want to blame people too, So there's a there's a

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 4>balance between both of them. Like we get we get

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 4>thrown under the bust of shit that we got nothing

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 4>to do with. Like if I if I advocate for

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 4>one person because I know their story, and it was like, oh,

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 4>you're phony because you ain't talk about Jojo who got

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 4>shot here but you're gonna talk. I'm like, well, I

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 4>didn't even know Joe. I didn't even know Jojo got shot.

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 4>How you hold it me accountable? I don't know nothing

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 4>that got to do with Jojo. But but this is

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.919
<v Speaker 4>how people start putting things in their mind. So I've

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 4>never wanted to do politics based on that because I

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 4>watch what you actually have to deal with, and I

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 4>want to be able to say and do what I

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:29.879
<v Speaker 4>want when I want.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 5>I hear you.

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 4>I love I love the fact I've actually evolved, right,

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 4>but I still want to be able to say, look, yeah,

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 4>but I still want to be able to say, you

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 4>can't talk to me crazy, I'm gonna take you around

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 4>the corner and we're gonna have to get fired. I

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 4>want to be able to do that. That's the reason

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 4>why I want to go into the phone to go off.

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think you are an example, though, of why

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<v Speaker 3>more black men should consider running for office to make

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 3>the change that they're looking for in their local communities. Right,

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you think about a Congressman Jamal Bowman in New York.

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 3>This man is a teacher, principal turned now a congressman,

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 3>and he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to go further. I know he is right, and I.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Think and of course there's a side of me that

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 3>is in that that that has to push back even

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 3>on what I said, because black women certainly need to

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 3>run for office more, but the support that's necessary for

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 3>a black woman to win is very challenging and then

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 3>for her to stay in position because the system so

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 3>easily comes up against black women, and you know, just

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 3>kind of like, oh well, I mean if you think

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 3>about the list of black women from Kim Fox who's

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 3>the state's attorney in Wiskim in Chicago, to Maryland Moseley

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 3>in marriag Carland, and the list goes on and on,

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 3>and how they are being ripped to shreds, literally ripped

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 3>to shreds. It makes other black women run. But I

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 3>think you, counselmen Kelly, are an example of why people

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 3>should run. They need to. But you can't just run

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 3>for your one seat. You got to look at the

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 3>entire city because now when counsel will at the time,

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 3>when do it all helps ros Baraka become mayor. Right,

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 3>then you run for counsel and you have other friends

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 3>that run for assembly. You start the corner off your

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 3>community and be able to make the type of change

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 3>that you're looking to do. So I think more black

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 3>men should certainly gather with that thought process in mind.

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 6>No, that's an amazing example you just did too to

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 6>make because that's really what it is. We helped Rise

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 6>become mayor, and in turn, he helped me become counselmen,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 6>you know. And I think that with us going back

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.439
<v Speaker 6>and grabbing each other, and we have a.

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 5>Woman council president and Lamonica mcguyver, and he was her

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 5>fifth grade teacher when she was in the fifth grade,

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Ras was her teacher. Now she's the president of the

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 5>council and part of his team.

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 6>I think that people are not really looking at the succession.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 5>And we have to prepare for that too, right. You know,

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 5>we have nine council.

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 6>Members on here in Jersey and some people, you know,

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 6>in different states, different cities, there's a different body of

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.439
<v Speaker 6>municipal council. But here in north we have five, one

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 6>that represents each ward. We have five wards, and then

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:41.879
<v Speaker 6>we have.

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Four at largest.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 6>So I represent the ward that I grew up in,

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 6>which is about seventy thousand residents. You know, in some places,

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 6>seventy thousand residents is the whole entire city.

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 5>So I really have a mini city that I have

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 5>to govern over.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 6>And one thing I can really say is that Mayor

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 6>Baraka allows me.

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 5>To govern over that city, over those residents and all

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 5>of us.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:11.720
<v Speaker 6>So when it comes to talking about bringing people along,

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 6>we have to set up a farm system.

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 5>You know. One of the reasons that I am counseling.

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>In farm system A farm system.

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 5>Farm system, yeah, farm system, you know what I mean.

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 5>So the reason one.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the reasons that I am counseling is because of

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 6>a conversation that I had with Tupacs your corps back

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.760
<v Speaker 6>in nineteen ninety two in a motel in Orlando, Florida,

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 6>while on tour.

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 8>You know.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 5>And it's crazy because that conversation.

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm on POC Laws of the Underground and Tupac was

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 6>sharing a sixteen passenger van. We wasn't even on tour

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 6>buses yet, you know, and we was in a motel

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 6>where you had to go in the room outside not inside,

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. But just to fast forward

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 6>the story, Pot came to my room, and you know,

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 6>we had an altercation before that day. He came to

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 6>my room first of all, like a man to squash it.

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean.

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 6>So he came to my room and through that conversation.

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 6>Through that we got into this conversation. He said, dude,

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 6>we have to turn millions of record biers into millions

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 6>of voters. And then once we do that, and he

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 6>started naming all of the rappers that was popular back

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 6>in ninety two. You know, he would say, Common has

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 6>to do it in Chicago, you entrench you and red

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 6>Man need to do it in New it Tresh needs

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 6>to do it in East starch Ice q to do

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 6>it in Central Los Angeles.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 5>I'll do it in Baltimore and Oakland.

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 6>And he just started naming all of these people and

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 6>he started to talk like a twenty twenty one year

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 6>old and I've never heard talk like that before, you know,

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 6>and saying that we have to be accountable and start

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 6>youth organizations and youth groups and.

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 5>Protect our women and protect our senyers. I mean, he

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 5>was blowing my mind.

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 6>And then he said, you know, we have to do

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 6>something that we might not want to do because you know,

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 6>all rappers were against politicians. He said, we we might

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 6>have to become legislators. Almost didn't know he was talking

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 6>about it. I was legislators man we rappers. He was like, yeah,

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 6>but if we don't.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 9>Make the laws for us, or if we're not at

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 9>the table making laws or nos and colds for us,

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 9>then they will make it for us, and it won't

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 9>be for us.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Before us, you know, and talk to you for the

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>rest of the son.

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 4>But we could definitely stay and told to you tonight.

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 4>But I just want I just want to show what

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 4>hip hop is. It's so big and the culture of it,

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 4>Like just looking at the connection of you and Ross.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Speaker 4>People don't know that Ross is so loves hip hop

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 4>and he actually has a hip hop album that you

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 4>guys could be that I've watched you know, see what

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying and listening to his little You know that

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 4>he's so influenced by the culture. And now it's time

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 4>for the culture that influences this world to dictate and

0:45:58.320 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 4>govern this world.

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's what it is showing. It's showing like and

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not just that it's just government.

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 4>When you look at Newer, it is a model for

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 4>governments all around this world. Like the way that you

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.359
<v Speaker 4>guys deal with violence and the way that you deal

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 4>with community is a model for the world to look at.

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm not just saying it shows the culture. When you

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 4>are culturally competent and you have respect in your community,

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 4>when you take community leaders in community credible messages and

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 4>you connect those back to the communities that they're governing,

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 4>you will see the change. So that's something that inspires

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 4>me when I watch you guys. It inspires me to

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 4>do the work that I do because I know the

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 4>work that I do. Even if I'm not one of

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 4>those government officials, I'm inspiring someone.

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Who's going to be in the next who's going to.

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Be there, They're gonna say, Okay, I've seen what my

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 4>song does in this community. I want to take that

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 4>and I want to put it in these political offices,

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 4>even if it's not what I do.

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>So I just want to say, what you do.

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 4>And where you come from is so motivational, inspirational for

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 4>a lot of us.

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Man. So continue, you know, continue to do what to

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 2>work you do. We salute you. You know you my brother.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be my brother with you all the time,

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 4>working with you all the time. I just want you

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 4>to give us, you know, one last word that you

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 4>would give us before you leave.

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 6>Before I leave, I just want to add on to

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 6>what you're saying. I know you guys gotta go. But

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 6>just talking about Nork being a model and having a

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.240
<v Speaker 6>leader like rash Jay Baraka in the seat who does

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 6>things that really push our city forward. Today, we just

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 6>in our pre counsul tomorrow we'll vote on it. But

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 6>he bought the Temple of Hip Hop to North New

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 6>Jersey and gave it a home. Hart One is now

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 6>opening the school of the Temple of hip Hop. And

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 6>I've seen him try to open this in Harlem. I

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 6>seen him try to open it in the Bronx. Rasbarakas

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 6>gave this guy a building. The Temple of hip Hop

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 6>is now located in North New Jersey southward.

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 5>That amazing to me. We got the teacher here.

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 6>That's gonna be running programming out of our city. That's

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:10.439
<v Speaker 6>an international hub now in New Jersey. That's like, that's

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.320
<v Speaker 6>just for me. That's just like bringing Prudential or Mars

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 6>or you go to the building one of those corporations.

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 6>He just bought a solidified value to our city and

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 6>the teacher with Karas One in the Temple of hip

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 6>Hop that are gonna do.

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:26.760
<v Speaker 5>Many great things.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 6>So man, Noork is definitely becoming a model for a

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:34.399
<v Speaker 6>certain man, you know. And one last thing too, mice,

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 6>when you talk about our men in our communities. I

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 6>just started this thing called Men Talk Sundays, where we

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 6>go into the parks and I grab all of the men,

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 6>all of those and I guess that's why I still

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 6>have certain relationships with them. I go to these communities

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 6>and I tell them, I need you to come talk.

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 5>I need you to what. It was inspired by one

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 5>of the big gang banger.

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 6>Here who I have a relationship, was mad at me

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 6>because I wasn't returning his phone calls.

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 5>But he don't understand. I'm just really busy. So anytime

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 5>somebody has an issue, I go right to him. So

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 5>I went right to him. What's up? What's the problem

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 5>with Nah, dude, I don't want you to get no

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 5>big head but being no, it's not that.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 6>But look, I want you to come with me for

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 6>the day now. I want you to work with me.

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 6>I want you to build with me and see what

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.439
<v Speaker 6>I do. And he came with me. We went to lunch,

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 6>yet we had an amazing conversation. But with that conversation

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 6>showed me was that we need each other. I learned

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 6>something through that conversation by him point into me. I'm

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 6>pouring into him, and it inspired me to grab all

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 6>of the dudes from the neighborhood put.

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 5>Them in the park. I have Red Man as my.

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 6>Keynote speaker talking about facing your fears. And when I

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 6>said this man did amazing people like you have Red

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 6>Man as your keynote speaker. Yes, yes, he has experiences

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 6>about facing fears. Anybody you know can't tell another man

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 6>about his experiences.

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 5>So I put Man when I tell you he inspired

0:49:57.880 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 5>these brothers.

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 6>Man, and I say that because August twenty seventh is

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 6>our next men talk Sundays in the Park and a mice.

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 5>I would love you.

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 6>To be my keynote speaker for that day. If you available, Man,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 6>August twenty seven and we can talk definite.

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:11.439
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna try.

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna try because August August, either August twenty sixth

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 4>or twenty seventh.

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I do my annual day in my in.

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 4>The Bronx, so it's Merriam day I usually do my

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:23.280
<v Speaker 4>annual days.

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I had to push it back.

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 4>To either the twenty six or the twenty seventh, so

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna decide if I do it on the twenty six.

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.439
<v Speaker 2>What happened and I ain't available that day?

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 5>She looked right, say a thing.

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I just, I just.

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 2>It might not work.

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 5>So I don't even get one day if that don't go.

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 4>Definitely, definitely, because I'm actually doing the men's Talk inside

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 4>in September. I'm gonna do it a big I want

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 4>to hold about five hundred men where I'm sitting down

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 4>with five hundred minute We're.

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Gonna we're gonna iron out.

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 4>And we're gonna decide how we're gonna govern our communities,

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.719
<v Speaker 4>how we're gonna take back our communities, how we're gonna.

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Love on our young kings, how we're gonna raise that.

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 4>How we're gonna show them with real right to passages,

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.959
<v Speaker 4>what manhood manhood really is. So it is a line.

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, the work we do is definitely in a line.

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna figure it out. We'll figure it out, definitely.

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Man, Thank you so.

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Much for being with us today. You know we just

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 3>need to go. We got to go to Nework and

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 3>sit down and talk.

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 1>As we have in the past, do.

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 3>It again because there's so much to be said, and

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, I'm having prophecy moments here I

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 3>think you really do need to be doing videos and

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 3>things encouraging people to run for office and telling them

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.400
<v Speaker 3>your story, right like short clips of videos. This is

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 3>what I did first, second, third, this is how I

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 3>did it. This is what you need to be involved

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 3>with in your community prior to running. Because there are

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 3>people who ask me all the time I want, but

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 3>I just don't know what to do and how to

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 3>do it. And I think coming from you, because you know,

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 3>people are attracted to success, So coming from you, who

0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 3>is successful at selling music, I think you will also

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:06.359
<v Speaker 3>be successful as selling getting our people nationally to be

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 3>more involved in.

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 5>And before you go, I have been doing that.

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 6>So I started my election tour last week and I

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 6>started in Charleston, West Virginia.

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 5>An election tour.

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 6>Talks about how arts and entertainment can foster change in

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 6>community through policy and politics, you know.

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:24.800
<v Speaker 5>And I started in Charleston.

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 6>I have Tampa, Orlando, Milwaukee, Winston, Salem, and Charlotte coming

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 6>up next.

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 3>We're doing that's what we need and we want to

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:36.839
<v Speaker 3>help you promote it.

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 1>We got to go because we've got to end this show.

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 3>We would never end if we let you continue to stay.

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Gyms. Thank you counselmaning Man Real.

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm definitely a supporter.

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Counselman. Do pray Kelly who is better known

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 1>as do it.

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 5>All all right and Mike As we're gonna be all

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:00.080
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna talk about it.

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely we can get you all right all right,

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 2>kn't peace Man.

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 4>Shout out to my brother duprey do it oh. Kelly

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Man one of the realist dudes. Man one of my

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 4>favorite hip hop artists. If you don't know Lords of

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:20.400
<v Speaker 4>the Undergrounds, a lot of y'all young dudes probably don't know,

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 4>but go look it up.

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, they got some of the dopest music.

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 4>He's one of the dopest artists man, And just watching

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 4>his evolution is inspirational to me, you know, with the

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 4>work he's doing, you know, not only just the work

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.959
<v Speaker 4>he's doing, the way he's doing the work. He's doing

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.280
<v Speaker 4>it in his authentic self. And a lot of people

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 4>don't understand that. A lot of people think that you

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 4>have to look a certain way, sound a certain way,

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, you have to capitulate to a certain narrative

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 4>in order to do the work.

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 2>And he's not.

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 4>He's not that individual like he says, he walks in

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 4>there with suits and sneakers.

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 2>He got his newer cat on.

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 4>He comes, he brings the culture of hip hop with

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 4>him into you know, the Councilman's So he's motivational to

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 4>me because I always want to be authentic in myself.

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 4>I always want to bring the streets of the New

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 4>York City and the Bronx and and bring the real

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 4>voices of my community into any space. And I don't

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 4>want people to think that you have to sound or

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 4>look a certain way. So he's motivational to me. So

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 4>shout out to him for the work he's doing. You know,

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 4>we we we had a good interview. So I don't

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 4>really I don't really have a I don't Maybe you don't.

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I have plenty of I don't get it, but we

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 3>can save one.

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean I do have a I don't get.

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 4>I just don't get how they had a fight that

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 4>was heralded as the biggest fight in the century.

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 2>One of the boxes looked like he was an amateur.

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 4>And there's no no disrespect because I'm an aerospence fan

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 4>and I think he's a dope boxer. But I'm just

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 4>trying to say I don't know, I do not get

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 4>what happened. Like there's been a lot of things I said.

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 4>If you look at my Instagram page, I said, I

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 4>think he was.

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 2>High because he looked high.

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 3>I was heard what you was talking about, you know,

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:14.800
<v Speaker 3>my challenges.

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just like, man, he just looked high

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:17.279
<v Speaker 2>to me.

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 4>And then somebody, one of my friends who's also an

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 4>aerospince fan, sent me something that said that, you know,

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 4>he was hit by he was thrown.

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Out of a moving car at one hundred miles an.

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 4>Hour, so he was he was he had he was

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 4>in serious injury, and he boy, he came back to fight,

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 4>and you know he's and he's had a few fights since.

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 2>But they're saying that he's.

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Dealing with neurological you know, injury, and they can tell

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 4>based off that. So this was what some quote unquote

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:48.759
<v Speaker 4>neurologists were saying on the incident. I don't know, but

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I just don't get. Like I've been watching boxing my

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 4>whole life. My father used to have me sitting in

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.280
<v Speaker 4>front of the TV watching boxing matches my whole life,

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 4>and I've never seen someone who was that top tier

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 4>of a fighter lose that bad. I just never and

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 4>and it's not taking nothing away from Budd Crawt, because

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 4>I have already said that I felt Bud was the

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 4>better fighter. I thought Budd was gonna win the fight.

0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 4>But the way that Erospence fought or didn't fight, to

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 4>me was just mind boggley.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 2>So I don't get it. Maybe people can whatever it is,

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:31.399
<v Speaker 2>he's either high, he was either dealing with some neurological

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:34.359
<v Speaker 2>or he really just needs to retire. But a lot

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 2>of people talking about, oh a rematch.

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:39.839
<v Speaker 4>I do not want to see that Erospence that walk

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:43.240
<v Speaker 4>into that that ring fight again ever, So.

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not interested in seeing that.

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 4>I want that man to because if he goes in

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 4>there with that level of fighting again, he might really

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.200
<v Speaker 4>really because he was his face was really he was

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.360
<v Speaker 4>really beat up bad. If he goes in there and

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 4>fighting like that again, he can really tell with some

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 4>real brain damage or something. So I don't even want

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.359
<v Speaker 4>to see him fight like that again. I don't want

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 4>to diminish his legacy with him.

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 3>That's powerful just to say I don't because I thought

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 3>you were gonna say you don't want to diminish the

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 3>value of boxing.

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 4>No, his legacy. He's too good a boxer he's too good.

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 4>I've watched some box and I've seen him. He's one

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 4>of the most aggressive, punishing, like the way he fights

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 4>to fight like that, it diminished because people was mad

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 4>at me because I put my top fight five boxers

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:29.840
<v Speaker 4>right now and I didn't put him in people's like

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, because the way that he fought,

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 4>it took him completely right until he does something else,

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:40.439
<v Speaker 4>like if I never seen him happen, you know, I'm saying,

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 4>that's what happens, Like you lose. That fight was the

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:46.520
<v Speaker 4>worst fight I ever seen any top tier fighter ever have.

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Like I've seen top tier fighters lose that wasn't supposed

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.439
<v Speaker 4>to lose, that got upset. I've seen Mike lose. I've

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:55.080
<v Speaker 4>seen you know what I'm saying, Wilder lose. I've seen it.

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 2>But they was all in the fight, like even when

0:57:58.360 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 2>they were lost, they was fighting.

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Like you could tell some of them got a little slower,

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 4>they got older, but they didn't.

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Get beat beat beat feet like that.

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 4>I've never seen something like that where the man probably

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 4>landed maybe three punches of significance, like nah, not an

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 4>eight round.

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>How many rounds did they fight?

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 2>They fore eight rounds?

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 4>He got knocked down three times and then in they

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 4>four nine rounds, they four nine rounds, he got knocked

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 4>down three times and then the knife round they stopped

0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 4>the fight.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty sad. I mean, you know, I didn't watch it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I saw it. Sure the it was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of chatter about it on the internet. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate that you said, you want the man's legacy to good.

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<v Speaker 3>He's and some of our leaders. There's a similar conversation

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<v Speaker 3>that happens as you see. You know, look at now

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<v Speaker 3>what has happened with Reverend Jesse Jackson, who's now passed

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<v Speaker 3>the baton to uh the to reverend doctor Freddie Haynes,

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<v Speaker 3>who is my dear other, our friend and Freddie, and

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<v Speaker 3>let me say that said that again. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about making sure you preserve your legacy. You see,

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<v Speaker 3>even in this moment where Reverend Jesse Jackson has passed

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<v Speaker 3>the baton leadership of Rainbow Push Coalition, which is his organization,

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<v Speaker 3>to our friend and brother, doctor Freddie Haynes, the third

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<v Speaker 3>out of Dallas, Texas. And we know it's very clear

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<v Speaker 3>that Reverend Jackson is dealing with severe illness. He's not

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<v Speaker 3>the same as he was when he was younger, or

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<v Speaker 3>even just five years ago. He's changed, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>of his condition. And I think it was important because

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<v Speaker 3>he's talked about passing the baton in the past, and

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<v Speaker 3>we all have that, we all, every single one of

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<v Speaker 3>us who has ever led something, whether it be a company,

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<v Speaker 3>even your toy that you had when you were young,

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<v Speaker 3>a shirt that you love, you hold it so dear,

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<v Speaker 3>but you look crazy now the you've grown to a

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<v Speaker 3>big woman's size and you still trying to wear this

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<v Speaker 3>same shirt that used to do it for you at

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<v Speaker 3>the club when you was young, and now you outside

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<v Speaker 3>with your stomach hanging over and people looking at you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're embarrassing yourself. So you have to learn how

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<v Speaker 3>to pass things on to the next person that's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take care of it and love it and treat it

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<v Speaker 3>the same way that you had to preserve your own legacy,

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<v Speaker 3>even more so than theirs. But it's to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't have yourself out here looking crazy because

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<v Speaker 3>you still trying to keep up with the old you,

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<v Speaker 3>and the old you is not the new you. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think, listen to what you said, I know nothing

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<v Speaker 3>about the boxer you spoke of but I think that

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<v Speaker 3>what's most important is your health. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have started putting our health first and

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<v Speaker 3>not taking opportunity first, and then trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>how to back into the health. And I know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>speaking as a person who doesn't always listen to that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think this is an example of that type

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<v Speaker 3>of situation pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that said, thank you for coming out.

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<v Speaker 4>do pray do it all, Kelly my guy for coming here,

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