WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Thudding Up 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.039 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.079 Cowboys. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:18.880 This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:20.799 Camp in Oxnard, cal. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:28.120 Street Sat six seconds dot TSI pays for the touchdown. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:33.760 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.680 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.760 It's time for a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:47.160 by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from Oxnard, California. As 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.680 training camp twenty twenty three continues out here on the 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.080 West Coast, It's preseason week number one and the Cowboys 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.000 get ready to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars four pm 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.760 Central Time on Saturday. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.320 Alongside John Matchoda, Nick Harris, I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, we 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.440 are here. This is the final. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:08.640 Show before football actually happens, which is just so refreshing 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:09.240 to say. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.600 And we've got another padded practice today to watch. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.959 I'm looking forward to it just because the fact that 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.959 we can finally see guys hitting and tackling to the 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.720 ground like they're doing. They're hitting their thudding. Sometimes there's 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.920 been a but like when they actually do tackle the 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:25.480 ground I feel like I need to post that video 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.360 because it's just so rare when you see that, and 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.440 also it's the coaches don't want that, but yeah, they 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.560 actually get to see that in the trenches, particularly in 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.040 the preseason. I'm looking forward to that more than anything else. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.360 At Chris be in the Back. Can we get this 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.000 episode named Thudding? That's a no. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:41.880 But I'm really excited to see these guys in action 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.240 on Saturday. We've been talking about it. It feels like 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.959 a nauseum since well since I got here, since the 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.280 draft for sure, So I'm definitely excited to get going. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.160 Yeah, lots of youth with this team trying to merge 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:52.920 with the veterans. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.240 I mean, there's a lot of veterans that are probably 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.640 not going to see the field on Saturday. Maybe a 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:01.280 couple that will just based off of injuries and things. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:02.919 Of the sort that are trying to work back from. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.680 But for the most part, it's going to be a 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.279 chance for that youth side of the football team to shine, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.799 which I think Cowboys fans are excited about and ready 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.520 to see. But I mean, let's get into talking points. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.320 I mean a lot of that, at least over the 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.600 last couple of days has been the defense. That talking 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.760 point for me at least is how dominant the defense 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.680 has been. They continue to get after it, they continue 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.360 to push this offense. I thought Monday the offense had 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.400 a great practice. They got the ground game going a 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.600 little bit, they were able to kind of fill some holes, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.720 and then Tuesday was a complete turnaround. I thought Tuesday 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.840 was really a rough practice offensively. But what are you 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.880 guys looking at? What are you guys seeing out there 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:42.359 on the field. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.239 I still have my questions about the offensive line. That 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.520 would be the biggest thing. You know, if I take 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.160 out a depth chat right now and I look at it, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.600 I don't have many questions about the defense. I look 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.280 at the offense and yeah, you know, Dak, you mentioned 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.880 that in that practice through a few interceptions a couple 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.760 of Trayvon Diggs and won the Layton vandersh But even 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.880 with that, like, it doesn't really concern me that I 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.120 feel will all work itself out. They're working in a 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.079 new offense, but it's about how well can that offensive 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.240 line block? And we see it to a certain extent 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.760 out here, but now we'll see on Saturday. Especially because 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.919 you talk about starters not playing, Like you don't expect 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.679 to see Tyron Smith out there. I don't expect to 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.399 see Terren Steele out there. I don't expect to see 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.720 Tyler Biadash out there. So that's a lot of playing 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.519 time for reserve offensive linemen that they really need a 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:26.680 couple of these guys step up. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.160 Yeah, I'm curious to see how this depth kind of 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.679 steps up, especially with the reps that they're gonna be 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.840 getting on Saturday. You had mentioned that the offensive line, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.080 especially the interior right guard Josh Bosman. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:38.640 Getting a lot of work. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.400 So seeing him get some game reps maybe will increase 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.840 some confidence not only in him, but you know people 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.720 that are hoping that he can step up to that occasion, 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.840 especially if Zach Martin's not able to come back, but 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.480 also brock Hoffman, you know, I feel like he's had 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.080 a strong last week. I'm curious to see what he 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.960 does when he puts it onto the field on Saturday. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:56.800 There's gonna be a lot of guys, you know, just 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.800 kind of looking at Lindstrom as well. I mean, there's 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.920 a lot of interior guys that you know, there's a 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.600 huge opportunity still open for any of these guys to take, 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.640 so we'll see who takes advantage of it. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.680 Is that your talking point as well, or do you 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:08.480 have anything else? 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.200 I would say my talking point. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.400 What I'm looking forward to going into Saturday is the 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.760 Jacksonville receivers versus the Cowboys defensive backs. I think, top 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.400 to bottom, from the top of the depth charts to 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.640 the bottom on both sides, it's gonna be a really 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.040 fascinating battle. We could talk about the top and it 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.960 kind of depends on who plays for the Cowboys. But 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.279 for the Jacksonville Jaguars, you got Christian Kirk, You got 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.800 Calvin Ridley, who will most likely be playing considering that 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.800 he just came off a year long suspension, probably needs 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.640 a good ramp up. And you got Zay Jones as 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.040 their wide receiver three, who had a great year last 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.320 year and you know, is trying to prove once again 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.600 that he can be a viable Z option out there 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.320 for him. So you know who covers those guys, nay 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.599 Sean Wright probably gets the assignment of Jay Jones, and 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.359 you know, we'll kind of see who they play and 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.280 bounce around. But even at the depth of that group, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.479 you got Parker Washington that if they just drafted in 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:57.920 the sixth round out of Penn State. That was a 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.720 guy that was getting first round grades going into the 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.680 season last year. Really athletic guy, really speedy, has an 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.080 incredible route tree. I want to see him against Eric 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.880 Scott just because with Parker Washington's versatility and how he 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.280 can kind of fluidly move around, I want to see 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.680 that against Eric Scott because he's just as fluid and 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.800 it's pretty much versatile as well. So I would like 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.520 to see those two guys pitted against each other. And 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.800 you also got Darrajingcas that's another young receiver than they have. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.640 It's gonna be fun top to bottom from quarter one 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:23.240 to quarter four. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.920 And reports at least early on are saying that they 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.600 expect Trevor Lawrence to play just a little bit, and 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.800 they expect some of those receivers to see some time. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.560 I bet you Calvin Ridley gets multiple series. Probably those 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:34.760 other guys probably don't. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.320 Zay Jones and then. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.040 Christian Kirk, Yeah, I think both of those guys are 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.160 probably going to take a step back at least at 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.120 the moment, and then that'll be Calvin Ridley for maybe 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.000 two or three series and then he'll get out of there. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.039 That's a good challenge. I mean, we've talked about iron 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.120 sharpens iron on the field. They finally get that up 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.240 opportunity to face somebody that doesn't have a star on 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.360 the side of their helmet and you instead get to 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.840 go up against the other team. I think that's gonna 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.960 be valuable for guys like right and Eric Scott Junior. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.040 I doubt Deron Blant sees a ton of playing time. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.760 Maybe he gets a series, but for the most part, 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.400 that's gonna be a good challenge. It's something I think 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.680 the secondary real issues. It seems like Al Harris wants 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:16.640 that type of challenge. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.760 Yeah, I don't need to see Deron Bland. I feel 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.800 like their top three corners are very similar to their 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.039 top three receivers on this team. I don't think you 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.880 need to be putting them out there. Eric Scott is 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.320 a key for sure, because you've just been seeing good things. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:32.800 You've been hearing good things about him. The other day, 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.120 the Pivot podcast was out here talking to Micah Parsons 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.360 and some of those guys caught up with Trayvon Diggs 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.320 and they asked him, you know, like, who's kind of 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.440 caught your eye and whatever, and he mentioned, you know, 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.760 Eric Scott is a guy, and you obviously hear from 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.760 the coaches as well. So that one that really interests 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.200 me is like, what can he do in that situation, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.560 because if you are going against some of those top receivers, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.560 let's be honest, he's not gonna shut those guys down, 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.000 you know. And so that's my big thing about corner. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.320 It's funny because you too, when you're in the locker room. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.920 It's like there's corners are wired a certain way because 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.800 you're never just going to completely shut people down. I 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.600 would say some of the most prickly personalities I've been 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.880 around have been defensive backs and it's easy particular corners. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.040 And so that's the thing. It's like, so Eric Scott 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:18.680 gets beat on a player or whatever, Now you've got 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.920 to come right back and kind of put that behind you. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.160 And that's so easier said than done. Most human beings 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:24.040 are not wired that way. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.720 Yeah, that's just the nature of the job, right. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.520 You have to be able to kind of shrug it off, 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.600 but also take the heat whenever it comes. But no, 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.560 I'm really excited to see Eric Scott. You know, we've 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.760 been since he was drafted. I feel like we've been 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.080 hearing about the potential he can bring from a coverage standpoint, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.000 whether that be in man or zone, and I feel 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.080 like he's shown both of those things out here, but 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.120 it's just translating it to the practice field. And one 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.240 thing specifically I would like to see from him is 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.320 working the run game, just because that was the one 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.360 knock I had on him from his college days is 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.040 you know, he was not really that efficient in the 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:51.440 run game. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.040 He gots torn up a couple of times. 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.080 So I'd like to see him in those situations and 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.320 see how we can move forward from that. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.640 We're talking a lot about the secondary, But which one 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.880 are you more excited on Saturday? 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.120 The pass rush or the secondary, Because I mean, I 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:05.680 think it's for two completely different reasons. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.560 For sure, for past rush, it's can they continue to 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.360 do what they've been doing out here? Whereas the secondary 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.160 it's more so can they continue to build and can 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.320 the youth shine a little bit? 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:17.080 Well, let's start with this. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.200 If there's a four man front, who's who's playing the 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.960 majority of the game. That's question, question for question for 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.840 both of you, Because I I think I think there's 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.520 I think there's a case to be made for a 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.760 lot of guys that could be playing quite a bit 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:29.360 of series. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.559 That's that's I'll give you just a name. I want 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.760 to like, do you want to see a lot from 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:35.480 Sam Williams? 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.640 I just yeah, I do. Absolutely I do too. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.440 And and then one of the reasons why is because 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.920 I don't feel like I've noticed him as much out 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.480 here is maybe I thought I would. Like Obviously Lawrence 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.840 and Michael Parsons you notice them a lot. And with 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.760 Sam Williams, there's a part of me that it kind 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.320 of goes back to that preseason game last year with 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.120 with Cavante Turpin where he has the two big returns, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.000 you know, and it just like one of those things like, yeah, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.360 go ahead and take your your pads off. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:08:59.640 We're good. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.400 Weve seen like to see Sam Williams come out early 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.920 in this game kind of wreck shop and then being like, 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.839 all right, Sam, we're good. We've seen enough there, you know, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.280 especially going against you know, a first team offense like that, 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.920 and and really like when you rattle off all those 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.280 receivers and you think about what Trevor Lawrence is becoming 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:15.719 that like this isn't just like, well, they're gonna go 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.640 against ones, They're going against ones of like one of 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.120 the better teams in the NFL. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.840 Absolutely one, Anton Harrison. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.920 I think that's gonna be a fascinating tackle matchup for 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.800 whoever is line up at edge, whether that's Sam Williams 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.840 or you know, if Daurrence Armstrong gets some play. So again, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.240 I'm curious to see who rolls out there for the 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.040 defensive line, because you could make a case that a 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:33.320 lot of those guys you can go ahead and put 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.080 that bubble wrap on them and let them, let them 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:35.959 chill until Week one. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.160 The four guys that I have on my depth chart 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.520 as the number two's and this is my depth chart. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.439 This is just based off of what I've seen out here. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.120 It's Durrance Neville, Gallamore, Chauncey Gulston, Sam Williams. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.559 So that's the official Dallas Cowboys step chart, right is it? Oh? 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.120 Oh yeah, you're just making a joke. I was about 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.800 to say, is if it might line up? It might, 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.800 I don't know, but Durrance bubble wrap. I don't think 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.400 you're gonna want to see Dorance a whole lot. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:58.000 Neville. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.160 I can see Neville. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.400 Getting a significant amount of it playing time, Chauncey will 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:02.960 get a significant amount of playing time. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.360 Sam might be a couple a couple of drives out. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.160 And the other guy that would be in that mix. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.000 I feel like when the season gets going, it would 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.760 be Mazzie Smith. But then you're sitting there shore and 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.040 like him coming off his injury injury, you know, how 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.600 much are they going to play him at all? Do 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:16.920 they want to just have. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.800 Him as as a kind of a penciled in starter, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.400 because I just think he will take over that opportunity. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.920 Dante Valler Junior is off the edge. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:27.360 Do you need to see him a whole lot? 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:28.520 I don't need to see anything. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.880 I'm thinking the same thing. This is going to be 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:36.520 a huge opportunity for the rookie. Villyami Fojoko, I think jujuhco. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.319 He's He's been relatively quiet. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:39.880 I get a lot of questions on Twitter and a 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.520 lot of people saying, what is Villyami doing? 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.520 What is Junior doing? I think he's been fine, but 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.920 he also hasn't flashed. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.760 He hasn't done the same things that that Williams or 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.080 Parsons or Dante Faller had been doing that's where he 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:55.920 gets a chance to shine it. And and I was 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.360 talking to Dan Quinn yesterday and Dan said, I'm really 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.280 excited to see Fojoko show a little versatility, show a 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.040 little bit of that positionless defense, because if you can 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.080 come off the edge and rush a passer, great, But 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.400 if you can go on inside and fill a hole 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.320 and stop the run, then that's another great opportunity for 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.280 him to whether he's the three technique, five technique edge rusher, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.400 wherever they put him on the line, it's at least 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.520 a chance for him to show some of that stuff 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:24.280 you expect him to see, not only just a good 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.079 amount of playing time, but also to possibly show that 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.360 some of the stuff that he hasn't shown out here yet. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:30.360 Yeah. Absolutely. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:31.920 And then the other part of it is when they 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.880 drafted him, I was kind of like, you know, I 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.240 didn't know a ton about him. And then so the 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:37.800 more you read up on him, and the more you know, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.400 you get in the conference call, you talk to some 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.840 coaches and stuff, and it's you know, you just see 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.240 kind of them using him as a similar role as Golson, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.640 and I'm just like, I'm interested to see how that 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.800 works out because It's one of those deals where almost 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.080 like with Tyrone Crawford for a while, like it was 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.000 like he never just had that one position and was 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.600 like always moving him around. So I kind of would 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.960 like to see those guys kind of settle into a role, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.760 you know, whatever that be, instead of just being like, yeah, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.400 this week you're gonna line up here, and this week 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.839 you know you're gonna line up on this spot and 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.280 you're gonna go against this guy, and this week you 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.400 might not play as much. And I know it's easier 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.000 said than done when you have a loaded defensive line, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.160 but I just it's hard for him to stand out 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.079 with who he's got in front of him, and I 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.679 don't know exactly what his position is. I know that 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.679 Dan Quinn likes him a lot, but that doesn't mean 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.360 necessarily that, oh well I didn't see him flashing the 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.640 preseason or out at training camp. Well, this guy's never 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.080 gonna you know, make a big impact. That doesn't mean anything, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.280 you know. That's why he's not like he's a first 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.679 or second round pick. Yeah, But just like I said 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.200 with the Turpin thing, you'd love to see any of 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.520 these guys just kind of, you know, kind of catch 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.240 your eye and turn ahead and be like, oh wow, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:41.920 you know I didn't notice that him having that kind 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.760 of an impact during the preseason. The other thing is 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.480 or during the training camp. The other thing I would 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.480 point out is in all sports, there are some players 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.440 that are great in practice, or they're great in this environment, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.160 they're not as great there. And then there's other players 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.960 that they're absolutely at their best when the lights come on, 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.920 and you don't really know that until the lights come on. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:00.320 Yeah. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.720 Absolutely, I think for Junior, Forjoko, and for Austin Richards, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.960 this is a really important opportunity for both of these guys, 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.560 just because you know, I feel like there's a level 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.560 of unproven with both of those guys, just based on 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.679 what's been put out out here. Uh and when you 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.480 look at the draft picks, I feel like those are 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.240 easily the two got have been talked about the least. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.480 I'm excited to see both of those guys. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:19.040 Absolutely. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.400 I mean, the rookies always have a little extra, little 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:23.280 extra intrigue. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.080 I think Jayalen Brooks falls under that category. Steve John 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.280 Stevens falls under that category. Having those rookies in this 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.480 preseason game, it's their first chance to really show first time. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:33.959 They'll have a star on the side of their helmet 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.160 as well, so there's a little extra pride factor there too. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.280 So really excited to see those guys. 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