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Speaker 2: It's time for a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented

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Speaker 2: training camp twenty twenty three continues out here on the

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Speaker 2: West Coast, It's preseason week number one and the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: get ready to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars four pm

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Speaker 2: Central Time on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Alongside John Matchoda, Nick Harris, I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, we

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Speaker 5: are here. This is the final.

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Speaker 2: Show before football actually happens, which is just so refreshing

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 5: And we've got another padded practice today to watch.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to it just because the fact that

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Speaker 6: we can finally see guys hitting and tackling to the

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Speaker 6: ground like they're doing. They're hitting their thudding. Sometimes there's

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Speaker 6: been a but like when they actually do tackle the

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Speaker 6: ground I feel like I need to post that video

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Speaker 6: because it's just so rare when you see that, and

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Speaker 6: also it's the coaches don't want that, but yeah, they

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Speaker 6: actually get to see that in the trenches, particularly in

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Speaker 6: the preseason. I'm looking forward to that more than anything else.

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Speaker 7: At Chris be in the Back. Can we get this

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Speaker 7: episode named Thudding? That's a no.

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Speaker 8: But I'm really excited to see these guys in action

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Speaker 8: on Saturday. We've been talking about it. It feels like

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Speaker 8: a nauseum since well since I got here, since the

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Speaker 8: draft for sure, So I'm definitely excited to get going.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, lots of youth with this team trying to merge

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Speaker 5: with the veterans.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of veterans that are probably

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Speaker 2: not going to see the field on Saturday. Maybe a

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Speaker 5: Of the sort that are trying to work back from.

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Speaker 2: But for the most part, it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: chance for that youth side of the football team to shine,

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Speaker 2: which I think Cowboys fans are excited about and ready

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Speaker 2: to see. But I mean, let's get into talking points.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of that, at least over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of days has been the defense. That talking

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Speaker 2: point for me at least is how dominant the defense

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Speaker 2: has been. They continue to get after it, they continue

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Speaker 2: to push this offense. I thought Monday the offense had

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Speaker 2: a great practice. They got the ground game going a

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Speaker 2: little bit, they were able to kind of fill some holes,

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Speaker 2: and then Tuesday was a complete turnaround. I thought Tuesday

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Speaker 2: was really a rough practice offensively. But what are you

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Speaker 2: guys looking at? What are you guys seeing out there

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 6: I still have my questions about the offensive line. That

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Speaker 6: would be the biggest thing. You know, if I take

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Speaker 6: I don't have many questions about the defense. I look

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Speaker 6: at the offense and yeah, you know, Dak, you mentioned

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Speaker 6: with that, like, it doesn't really concern me that I

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Speaker 6: new offense, but it's about how well can that offensive

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Speaker 6: out here, but now we'll see on Saturday. Especially because

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Speaker 6: time for reserve offensive linemen that they really need a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm curious to see how this depth kind of

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Speaker 8: especially the interior right guard Josh Bosman.

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Speaker 7: Getting a lot of work.

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Speaker 8: There's gonna be a lot of guys, you know, just

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Speaker 5: Is that your talking point as well, or do you

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Speaker 7: I would say my talking point.

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Speaker 8: What I'm looking forward to going into Saturday is the

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Speaker 8: Jacksonville receivers versus the Cowboys defensive backs. I think, top

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Speaker 8: the bottom on both sides, it's gonna be a really

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Speaker 8: fascinating battle. We could talk about the top and it

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Speaker 8: kind of depends on who plays for the Cowboys. But

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Speaker 8: for the Jacksonville Jaguars, you got Christian Kirk, You got

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Speaker 8: Calvin Ridley, who will most likely be playing considering that

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Speaker 8: bounce around. But even at the depth of that group,

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Speaker 8: Scott just because with Parker Washington's versatility and how he

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be fun top to bottom from quarter one

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Speaker 2: And reports at least early on are saying that they

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Speaker 2: I bet you Calvin Ridley gets multiple series. Probably those

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Speaker 2: That's a good challenge. I mean, we've talked about iron

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Speaker 2: I doubt Deron Blant sees a ton of playing time.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he gets a series, but for the most part,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be a good challenge. It's something I think

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Speaker 2: the secondary real issues. It seems like Al Harris wants

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't need to see Deron Bland. I feel

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Speaker 6: like their top three corners are very similar to their

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Speaker 6: a key for sure, because you've just been seeing good things.

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Speaker 6: You've been hearing good things about him. The other day,

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Speaker 6: and they asked him, you know, like, who's kind of

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Speaker 6: Eric Scott is a guy, and you obviously hear from

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Speaker 6: me is like, what can he do in that situation,

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Speaker 6: because if you are going against some of those top receivers,

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Speaker 6: let's be honest, he's not gonna shut those guys down,

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Speaker 6: you know. And so that's my big thing about corner.

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Speaker 6: It's funny because you too, when you're in the locker room.

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Speaker 6: It's like there's corners are wired a certain way because

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Speaker 6: you're never just going to completely shut people down. I

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Speaker 6: And so that's the thing. It's like, so Eric Scott

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Speaker 6: And that's so easier said than done. Most human beings

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's just the nature of the job, right.

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Speaker 8: You have to be able to kind of shrug it off,

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Speaker 8: I'm really excited to see Eric Scott. You know, we've

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Speaker 7: He gots torn up a couple of times.

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Speaker 8: So I'd like to see him in those situations and

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Speaker 2: We're talking a lot about the secondary, But which one

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Speaker 2: are you more excited on Saturday?

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Speaker 5: The pass rush or the secondary, Because I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think it's for two completely different reasons.

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Speaker 2: For sure, for past rush, it's can they continue to

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Speaker 2: do what they've been doing out here? Whereas the secondary

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Speaker 2: it's more so can they continue to build and can

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Speaker 2: the youth shine a little bit?

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Speaker 7: Well, let's start with this.

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Speaker 8: If there's a four man front, who's who's playing the

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Speaker 8: majority of the game. That's question, question for question for

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Speaker 8: I think there's a case to be made for a

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Speaker 8: lot of guys that could be playing quite a bit

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Speaker 6: That's that's I'll give you just a name. I want

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Speaker 6: Sam Williams?

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Speaker 7: I just yeah, I do. Absolutely I do too.

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Speaker 6: And and then one of the reasons why is because

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Speaker 6: I don't feel like I've noticed him as much out

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Speaker 6: here is maybe I thought I would. Like Obviously Lawrence

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Speaker 6: and Michael Parsons you notice them a lot. And with

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Speaker 6: Sam Williams, there's a part of me that it kind

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Speaker 6: of goes back to that preseason game last year with

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Speaker 6: you know, and it just like one of those things like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: We're good.

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Speaker 6: Weve seen like to see Sam Williams come out early

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Speaker 6: all right, Sam, we're good. We've seen enough there, you know,

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I think for Junior, Forjoko, and for Austin Richards,

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Speaker 2: So really excited to see those guys. But when we

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Speaker 2: crew other than Tony Pollard, who would be the most

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Speaker 6: go with Rico Dauba would surprise me just because of

438
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Speaker 6: the fact of the way Mike McCarthy's talked about him.

439
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,560
Speaker 6: You know, that first depth chart came out, came came

440
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Speaker 6: out and it's unofficial, so let's not read too much

441
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Speaker 6: into that, but you know, he was the two at

442
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 6: that running back spot, so I think he would probably

443
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,480
Speaker 6: surprise me. But I also, yeah, I agree with you,

444
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Speaker 6: I don't I can't see them moving on from Deuce Fawn.

445
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Rico.

446
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a credit to Rico like that, that's

447
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 2: a compliment to what he's done so far to say

448
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,280
Speaker 2: it's surprising Deuce. I think it would be surprising because

449
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,920
Speaker 2: they haven't traditionally cut draft picks, especially on the offensive

450
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 2: side of the ball too. I think there's there was

451
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,360
Speaker 2: so much hype around that pick, and there's of course

452
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,520
Speaker 2: the connection with Chris in the in the vicinity.

453
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Speaker 5: I think they also.

454
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Speaker 2: Don't want to let him get away if if if

455
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Speaker 2: something were to shine and things were to click, and

456
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 2: it certainly could whenever the lights come on, because he

457
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 2: showed that that was the case. He was a gamer

458
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,400
Speaker 2: at Kansas State as well, so maybe maybe he would

459
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 2: be that that's prising cut. I think overall, there's a yeah,

460
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,919
Speaker 2: there's a there's a lot of question marks of running

461
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Speaker 2: back and they've got four guys they have to sort through,

462
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,399
Speaker 2: and all four guys have a chance to be the

463
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Speaker 2: number two, or all four guys have a chance to

464
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Speaker 2: be the fifth running back on the roster, which I

465
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 2: think is that's what makes this whole situation intriguing.

466
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Speaker 8: Quick sidebar question, if none of these guys really pop out,

467
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Speaker 8: do we like Leonard Fournette?

468
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Speaker 7: I do? I do too, I do.

469
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Speaker 6: He's a free agent, right he is this, Like I said,

470
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Speaker 6: three preseason games will give you plenty of time to

471
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Speaker 6: kind of iron things out, figure out what you have there.

472
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 6: If nobody jumps out enough to where you feel really comfortable,

473
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Speaker 6: Absolutely that interests me. And also because of the fact

474
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Speaker 6: that I just that running back position. If you're a

475
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Speaker 6: free agent running back, I don't think they're gonna have

476
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Speaker 6: to make a really big significant investment for a Leonard Fournette.

477
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Speaker 6: So yes, I would be extremely interested in that.

478
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Speaker 5: I'm reluctant.

479
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Speaker 2: But I also ask me again, in three weeks, I

480
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: want to see what happens with this.

481
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Speaker 7: Running back group.

482
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Speaker 2: But if if nothing works out and then the Cowboys

483
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: can't get the run game going, whether that be from

484
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,959
Speaker 2: the offensive line or not, uh, I want to I

485
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: want to at least see the options. And if Leonard

486
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 2: Fournett's out there and he's healthy and he's able, then yeah,

487
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,959
Speaker 2: let's at least kick the tires on it and bring

488
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: him in.

489
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Speaker 6: It's gonna being completely candid, though I would have been

490
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 6: saying the same thing like three months ago. So yeah,

491
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Speaker 6: I'm not very unbiased about this. Sure, the entire time

492
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 6: he's been sitting out there, you've wanted him. Yeah, And

493
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Speaker 6: I mean it's not just because of what he was

494
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 6: in college and how high of a draft pick he was.

495
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Speaker 6: It was the fact of you saw what he did

496
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Speaker 6: with Tom Brady on a team that was built ready

497
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Speaker 6: to make a run. This team is built, you know,

498
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 6: they've they've head back to back twelve win seasons. The

499
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 6: guy's been there and done that. Wouldn't need to see

500
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Speaker 6: him out here step in week one and and I

501
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 6: think would be an outstanding compliment to Tony Pollard. But hey,

502
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Speaker 6: if one of these other guy steps up, by all means,

503
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Speaker 6: why why just spend the money to spend it?

504
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's not a I mean, I think it's a

505
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: great point actually because you look at look at these

506
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: other positions and the veterans and youth that's that's combined

507
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: between those positions. I mean, Mazzie Smith, Jonathan Hankins at cornerback,

508
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: it's Trayvon Diggs and Stefan Gilmour. I mean you have

509
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: a veteran either a veteran playmaker and a youthful playmaker

510
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 2: at almost every position along the depth chart. Running back,

511
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: you just have youthful playmakers for the most part. I

512
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: mean Tony Poller is the oldest running back on this roster,

513
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: which is odd thing.

514
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 6: It's also because that position is a young man's game.

515
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 5: No doubt about it.

516
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 2: But you bring in Leonard Fournette, and that adds a

517
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: guy that has a veteran playmaking ability, has been there,

518
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: like you said, been there, done that, won a Super Bowl,

519
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: played with the best in the game, and it honestly

520
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: compliments exactly what.

521
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Speaker 7: You're doing at all the other positions.

522
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I can be talked into that. Also,

523
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: I still want to see what happens.

524
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Speaker 6: My other factor with that, though, is too is the

525
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 6: fact that I don't I don't care about Tony Pollard

526
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 6: making a run at the rushing title. I need Tony

527
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 6: Pollard to be as healthy as possible in January. So

528
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 6: another running back or too have to step up that

529
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 6: you feel confident giving the ball to, because obviously playing

530
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 6: running back you're not going to be completely fresh in January.

531
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Speaker 6: But you saw what they were with and without him.

532
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 6: That has to be a goal to try and get,

533
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 6: you know, win as many games as possible, But you

534
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 6: want to get to January with Tony Pollard as healthy

535
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 6: as possible because he's one of the best weapons you have.

536
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: He only has one game in his entire career where

537
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: he has over twenty carries one game.

538
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 5: Everything else has been under twenty carries.

539
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: So if you expect him to come in and have

540
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Speaker 2: twenty five thirty carries and carry that same load as

541
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Speaker 2: Zeke did whenever he was the number one back or

542
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: when he was the bell cow back, that's not a

543
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: successful formula.

544
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Speaker 5: I mean, you want to.

545
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Speaker 2: Allow for Tony Pollard to continue to grow as the

546
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: season goes along, but you don't want to overload his plate.

547
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 5: And so that's where I'm worried.

548
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: That's the same way too, because if one of these

549
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: guys doesn't step up behind Tony Pollard, I don't want

550
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: to overload his plate because that takes away what his

551
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 2: game is. It takes away the home run threat that

552
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 2: he is and it's there. Instead, it wears him down

553
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: over the course of a season. Not in my interest

554
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: at all. But Leonard Fournette could be in my interest.

555
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 7: I like that idea, all.

556
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 5: Right, Hay talking cowboys love the show.

557
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: From the eight one seven, Billy from Grandview wants to

558
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: know about the tight end John Stevens, So we'll tell

559
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 2: you about John Stevens. Are they gonna hide him and

560
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: some of the other young talent on this roster or

561
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: are they gonna play him and let him shine?

562
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Speaker 6: I think you have to play him because when I

563
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Speaker 6: think of the tight end position, Jake Ferguson's young, Peyton

564
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 6: Hendershat's young, lu schoon Maker's young. So I can see

565
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 6: wanting to see stuff from them, but you really need

566
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 6: to see a ton from them, and so I don't

567
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 6: need those guys playing all games. So I mean, it's

568
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 6: just out of how many bodies you have on the roster.

569
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Speaker 6: I don't think that you're gonna be able to hide

570
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Speaker 6: John Stevens. I think he's gonna have to play.

571
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think so either.

572
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 8: Also, Billy from Grandview shot out to the grand View

573
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 8: zebras one of the best high scheed mascots.

574
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Speaker 7: In the state.

575
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Speaker 8: But yeah, I don't think you can hide either him

576
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 8: or Princeton fan Stretch and Bull as they've been called.

577
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 8: But I it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be really tough,

578
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 8: especially because you want to see what he's been doing

579
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 8: out here downfield. You would like to see that translated

580
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 8: into a game environment. But I understand the centnimon and

581
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 8: wanting to maybe hide him, but I think that's gonna

582
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 8: be tough to do.

583
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 6: Wow, that's a great inflatable. They have too.

584
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 7: The Zebra. Yeah.

585
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 6: Oh, and they have their their helmets are like the

586
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengals.

587
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 5: Know the Cincinnati Bengals helmets are like grandw Zebra's helmets.

588
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 6: I apologize.

589
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 5: No, they've got a great football program out there.

590
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Speaker 2: The uh kind of adding on to what you said,

591
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: I think Billy's trying to hide him, to put them

592
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: into the stash him to the practice squad and allow

593
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: him to come up.

594
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 5: But I mean, you got to give.

595
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: These young guys, especially if they've shown promise on the field,

596
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: you got to give them a chance to play.

597
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 7: Let them play a little bit.

598
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a lot of fun to see

599
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: John Stevens continue to grow. And it's not like tight

600
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Speaker 2: end number four is a solidified position. You've got the

601
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Speaker 2: three guys that you know are probably going to be

602
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: on the roster. Ferguson, uh, Hindershot and scoon Maker.

603
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Speaker 6: I think the quans On too, to be honest with you,

604
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Speaker 6: you think.

605
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 7: So, I do.

606
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a lock, dude, would you be.

607
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's a lock, but I'd

608
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 6: be surprised if somebody jumped him for that four spot.

609
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 6: It's possible. But yeah, there's just there's when you lose

610
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 6: Adulton Schultz, who is you just know what you're getting.

611
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 6: He's solid across the ball, and then now you move

612
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 6: to this youth movement. There's just something about having a

613
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Speaker 6: guy who he has veteran experience in mckewn that I

614
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 6: think would be nice to keep in the room.

615
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's had a great camp.

616
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 8: I think he's shown a lot this month that you know,

617
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 8: people wanted to see out of him, and even coach

618
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 8: lindw Wells tight end coach lind Wells, he talked about it.

619
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Speaker 8: I think it was last week when we had availability

620
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Speaker 8: with him and he said, Shawn's really come in with

621
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Speaker 8: a different approach here and he's doing really well.

622
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree. I'm gonna think John Stevens

623
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Speaker 2: is that tight end for right now. I just think

624
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Speaker 2: he's shown too much to not put him in that spot.

625
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: And there's been times when, especially on film, when Sean

626
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: McEwan isn't in the right spot, or he's not able

627
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: to hold a block, and.

628
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Speaker 5: There's things like that.

629
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Speaker 2: I I don't dislike Sean McEwan from a veteran step

630
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: from a little bit.

631
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Speaker 6: And if I room isn't one of.

632
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Speaker 2: These, he's probably right here. He's in building signs Sean,

633
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: but you.

634
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Speaker 6: Might be able to sneak him totally, where if John

635
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Speaker 6: Stevens keeps showing out, then maybe you feel like you

636
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 6: can't let them go.

637
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: That's ultimately the conversation.

638
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: I think there's a tough conversation is going to happen

639
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: in the tight end room. But we've talked about this

640
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: position before in TJ from Baltimore.

641
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 5: He wants to know.

642
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: Which position is more likely to go along whenever the

643
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: fifty three man cut comes here in a couple of weeks,

644
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver or corner. So we're talking about tough decisions

645
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: at tight end, but you also have some at wide receiver.

646
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: You also have some at cornerback, which one do you

647
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: think out of those two wide receiver a corner that

648
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: would be the most likely to get an extra player

649
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: or two.

650
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Speaker 8: I don't think either of them will eventually go long.

651
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 8: I was earlier in camp I was thinking maybe receiver.

652
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 8: But if either of them are two, I think it's

653
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Speaker 8: going to be receiver, just because I think at the

654
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 8: top of the cornerback depth and even you know, once

655
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Speaker 8: you come into four or five, six, there are some

656
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Speaker 8: really solidified guys there. I think it's a little bit

657
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Speaker 8: more solidified than if you looked at the other side

658
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Speaker 8: on the receiver aspect of things. So maybe they would

659
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Speaker 8: want to carry an extra receiver as a result instead,

660
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Speaker 8: But I don't think either of them go along for receiver.

661
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 7: Seven. Seven, Yeah, for corner, probably.

662
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: Eight eight corners sounds like it would be a lot.

663
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 7: And it does.

664
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Speaker 2: Probably guys I'd probably say, I'd probably say seven six

665
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: is normal.

666
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 5: Seven would probably go long for both.

667
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 6: Are you counting Jordan Lewis as one of those six

668
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 6: or seven though?

669
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably probably Okay, So I don't.

670
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Speaker 6: Think they're keeping more than six receivers. I think getting

671
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 6: we see if they cut down the roster a day.

672
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Speaker 6: I just think it's pretty cut right now that it's

673
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 6: that those top three, and then for me it would

674
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Speaker 6: be Jalen Tolbert Turpin and Jalen Brooks.

675
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that would be my ex So.

676
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 6: If you were going to go seven, it would be

677
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 6: seven for you.

678
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 7: Seven would be Yeah.

679
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 8: I don't feel like anybody's really popped out since that

680
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 8: first week because Jalen Moreno, Cropper came out of the

681
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 8: gates swinging. But since the pads have come on, it's

682
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 8: kind of been tempered a little bit. Simmi Fajoco, I mean,

683
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 8: this is this is the camp for him to prove it. Yeah,

684
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 8: he's had some bad drops out here, He's had some

685
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 8: great catches as well. He had he had one on

686
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 8: Saturday I believe was from Cooper Rush that was downfield

687
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 8: created separation on Nasehn Wright and it was fantastic. So

688
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Speaker 8: I would like to see Simmy Fojoco in that seventh

689
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 8: spot if there were to be one, But I'm not

690
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Speaker 8: confident in that.

691
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: I think even guys like Cropper and Barbin and even

692
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: at times Tyron Johnson, I really like what we've seen

693
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: from Tyron Johnson. You talk about trying to stash a

694
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: guy that might be the guy to stash. They they've

695
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: all had camps that are at least comparable to Simmi Fojoco.

696
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, I mean that's that's not

697
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: a great indication on what Simmy.

698
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: Simmy's roster impact is gonna look like.

699
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 6: But who takes over the Noah Brown role without Simmy?

700
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 6: You think it's Brooks, I think it's.

701
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 7: Got I think it's Brooks.

702
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Speaker 8: I think on special teams as well, I think top

703
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 8: to bottom, I think Jalen Brooks can take over his

704
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 8: complete role.

705
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: From everything that we've seen from brook Brooks, he is

706
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: willing and able to go and play specialty. If John

707
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: Fossil even talked about him a little bit in a

708
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: side conversation and he likes what Brooks has brought, I

709
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: still think John he wants to see more from from Jalen,

710
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: which I mean that's fair being the special teams coordinator.

711
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: But at the moment, Jalen is showing more from an

712
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: offensive standpoint than I think everybody anticipated. So there's there's

713
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Speaker 2: parts of his game that can continue to grow, which

714
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Speaker 2: is what makes me excited about Jalen Brooks, and that's

715
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Speaker 2: why I think he would get that that sixth spot.

716
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: Uh what about Okay, So let's play the numbers game

717
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: on cornerback real quick, Diggs, Gilmore, Nay, Sean Wright, Bland,

718
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis five, Eric Scott.

719
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Speaker 5: Eric Scott six, and now you're getting into.

720
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Speaker 6: Some for me, that's my group.

721
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Speaker 5: Do you count C. J. Goodwin, you count him as

722
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Speaker 5: a special teams team?

723
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Speaker 7: I think I would.

724
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Speaker 6: I think it comes down. I don't know how how

725
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 6: they keep CJ. Gowin and Kelvin Joseph. It's gonna have

726
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Speaker 6: I think it would have to be one or the

727
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 6: other there for a special Teams purmases. Just because those

728
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Speaker 6: first six corners that you mentioned, I don't see how

729
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: he not keeping them. I don't see how you would

730
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Speaker 6: want to make any of them available to other teams.

731
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's tough for Kelvin, especially with a rookie

732
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Speaker 8: coming in and balling the way he has, and you

733
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Speaker 8: know Jordan Lewis still you know he'll eventually be back,

734
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Speaker 8: but that's gotta be tough for Kevin Joseph too.

735
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to see the riding on the

736
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Speaker 2: wall because of course, I mean he's a second round pick.

737
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Speaker 2: That's that would be a big bust for for the

738
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Speaker 2: Cowboys overall, and man, I I just I don't I

739
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: don't see a whole lot happening from the cornerback spot

740
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Speaker 2: outside those first six names. I mean, if you're even

741
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: adding seven, I think that's stretching it because then you're

742
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Speaker 2: you're you're cutting short of positions like defensive line, linebackers, safety.

743
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Speaker 5: You need some of that overall. I think last year

744
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: they kept ten dbs.

745
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Speaker 2: I think it was six corners and for safeties if

746
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, and I mean for safeties, is

747
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: even going to be a tough conversation Donovan Wilson is

748
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: or I'll go Donovan Wilson, Malie Cooker, Jay Ron Curse

749
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: and then Bell or Tom. I mean there's a couple

750
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: guys there that you could also have that conversation for

751
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: you as well.

752
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 5: All Right, one more this is from.

753
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Speaker 6: Real quick on that. Yeah, with mkwamou he can do

754
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 6: so much and the silver stalta where he can help

755
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 6: at corner. I think that also factors in why you

756
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 6: probably wouldn't keep more than six.

757
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, that makes sense too.

758
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could be kind of that flex guy, gives

759
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: you that versatility.

760
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 5: For Dan quinn uh.

761
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: And we might have already answered this question just just

762
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: in that last one. But a fan from Long Beach,

763
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: California says, who needs the preseason reps more to prove

764
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: their growth, Jalen Tolbert or aforementioned Kelvin Joseph in order

765
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: to shoe the coaches, or show the coaches. He said, shoe,

766
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: but to show the coaches that they are ready to

767
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: take a jump into the regular I.

768
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Speaker 6: Mean, Calvin Joseph needs go. Jalen Tolbert's already in a

769
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 6: spot where, like I said, he to me is the

770
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Speaker 6: clear four. Whereas, like we just talked about how talented

771
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 6: that Jaguars team is. If you sat there and Kelvin

772
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 6: Joseph just had a great day against some of those receivers,

773
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 6: against Trevor Lawrence gets a pick something like that, that

774
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: completely changes because that's a lot like like I never

775
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 6: played football at a high level or anything like that.

776
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 6: I played basketball my whole entire life. And so for basketball,

777
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 6: you can go play pick up and you've got a

778
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 6: pretty good read on how players are and something like that.

779
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 6: With football, like you could be like a really good

780
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 6: flag football player. But then when like the pads come on,

781
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 6: it's a totally different game. And so because of that,

782
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: like as we see here today, a lot of the

783
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 6: stuff I'm saying is going off of where these players

784
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 6: are right now. But you go and have a monster

785
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 6: game in the preseason, that's going to hold a lot

786
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 6: more weight than stuff that you were doing on this field.

787
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 8: It's got to be Kelvin Joseph just because Jalen Tolbert

788
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 8: he's He's not in any sort of jeopardy and any

789
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 8: by any stretch of the mean. So, you know, Kevin

790
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 8: Joseph going out there and balling during the preseason, I

791
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 8: think that would be a lot more indicative of where

792
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 8: he is rather than Jalen Tolbert.

793
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 7: Going out there and balling during the preseason.

794
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 8: I think Jalen's spot right now is mostly solidified as

795
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 8: long as he doesn't, you know, something drastic doesn't happen

796
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 8: during the preseason.

797
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 5: I might I might catch from some heat from saying

798
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: this from certain.

799
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: Areas fans, but I mean it's say with your chest Thursday,

800
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: but I think, I mean, I want Kelvin Joseph to

801
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: make this team, and I feel like a lot of

802
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: Cowboys fans have written him off because of either off

803
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: the field issues, on the field concerns and things of

804
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: the sort. I want Kelvin Joseph to make this team

805
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: because in order to make this team, he's gonna have

806
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: to flash, like a second round pick with flash. So

807
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: that's where I'm at. If you're a if you're a

808
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: true fan of the Cowboys, you want the success for

809
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: the guys that you've drafted higher because that's why you

810
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: draft him higher, because they have the ceiling, they have

811
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: that opportunity.

812
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 5: Guys like Tristan Hill is a great example.

813
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: Tristan Hill would have flashed like the second round pick

814
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: that they used on him, he would still be on

815
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: this team, but he's not because he didn't flash, and

816
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: now you don't benefit at all. So I want Kelvin

817
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Joseph to make an impact in the preseason. I want

818
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: him to pick off Trevor Lawrence and do something great

819
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: because if that's the case, that means he's showing a

820
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: little bit, He's showing a little bit of that flash,

821
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of that hope to where hey, maybe

822
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: one day we can put him in there as a

823
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: team and as a defense and allow him to be successful.

824
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. I want him to show that.

825
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't want him to just fade away and then

826
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: end up on the off the roster. I want him

827
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: to be that guy and he just hasn't been that yet.

828
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying they look at it this way,

829
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 6: but this is kind of how I look at it.

830
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 6: As you know, you look at draft picks, second round pick,

831
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 6: you do not want this to be a swing and

832
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 6: a miss to this level. And obviously you can go

833
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 6: through the Cowboys second round has been the kind of

834
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 6: an achilles heel several years. But with the Kelvin Joseph thing,

835
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 6: I can easily if that doesn't work out, I can

836
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 6: easily quantify that is. But you got drown Bland, so

837
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 6: you know, sure, And it just kind of balances out

838
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 6: for me like that. I mean, that's the thing. There's

839
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 6: a lot of there's a lot of guests work when

840
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 6: it comes to you know, drafting and how you rank

841
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 6: your prospects and things like that, and sometimes you miss

842
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 6: in the second round and sometimes you get in the fourth, fifth, sixth.

843
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's just a balance of it, right.

844
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: I just want it all to work out, though, I'm

845
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: just selfish like that. I want it all to work out.

846
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: I want I want to have Trayvon Diggs and Stefan Gilmour.

847
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: I want to have dron Bland and a second round

848
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: caliber Kelvin Joseph, Like, that's what I want to see

849
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: on it.

850
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 6: I mean, it also hurts his chances just because of

851
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 6: the effect of the layers you name, like they're loaded

852
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 6: on defense. If this is just an okay, give you

853
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: a better example. If this is like some of the

854
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 6: Cowboys defenses in the past, you're probably just like, yeah, no,

855
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 6: he's on the team, he's the second round pay whatever. No,

856
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 6: they would loaded on defense, So you're not just gonna

857
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 6: be keeping guys and not keeping other players because you're

858
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 6: just stacked so much. It's not just the starters like

859
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 6: you're too deep. It's just so solid that that factors

860
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 6: into all of this.

861
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 7: That's a solid point.

862
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 8: Kelvin jose would definitely be on this team, no doubt

863
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 8: if this was what twenty eleventh.

864
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eighteen, I think absolutely honest too. Yeah, yeah,

865
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: completely agree. All right, we got to take our second break.

866
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: But when we come back keys to a successful preseason,

867
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 2: we're not even gonna say a win, but we're gonna

868
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: say keys to a successful preseason. We're gonna give you

869
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: one player to watch coming back with more talking cowboys.

870
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Speaker 9: Right after this, Todd thought it would be secure to

871
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Speaker 9: jog in the Cheat of Savannah. Todd believed the big

872
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Speaker 9: Cat repellent he bought online was reliable. And now Todd

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Speaker 5: Would you, Dear Doctor?

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Speaker 1: To Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Have mine visial line in as we speak. Bet you

919
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Speaker 5: didn't notice.

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Speaker 6: I'm amazed by that. My brother's got him too, And

921
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Speaker 6: like he lives in Michigan, and when we've talked on

922
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Speaker 6: the phone, I didn't even know that he had been.

923
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Speaker 6: That was always thing I was worried about, like, you know,

924
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Speaker 6: getting them and then when you're talking on our total

925
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Speaker 6: you're gonna have like.

926
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Speaker 7: A lisp or something, you know.

927
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Speaker 2: I was totally worried about it, no doubt, Like as

928
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Speaker 2: a play by play announcer, as as a broadcaster studio host,

929
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Speaker 2: I was terrified that it was going to change something.

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Speaker 7: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: It feels great. Honestly, I could call a game in him.

932
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Speaker 2: I have called games in.

933
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Speaker 5: Them, uh, and I mean they've been fantastic, So you.

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Speaker 7: Will call games in them too. Shameless plugs.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I like your transition. All right, Nick is learning.

936
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Speaker 5: I love this.

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Speaker 2: The uh yeah, Saturday four pm Central Time kickoff.

938
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Speaker 5: We got three pm countdown to kickoff.

939
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Speaker 2: Hailey, Sutton and crew will join you from this sideline

940
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Speaker 2: of AT and T Stadium. Then four pm Isaiah standback,

941
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Speaker 2: Bill Jones and myself will be in the booth.

942
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Speaker 5: We'll call that game. Really excited about it.

943
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a dream come true to get to

944
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Speaker 2: call a game at AT and T Stadium and the

945
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Speaker 2: main TV boost. That's that's gonna be an absolute blast.

946
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Speaker 2: I mean, uh, super excited about it. But I mean

947
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Speaker 2: I'm also just as excited as a Cowboys fan to

948
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Speaker 2: see these guys out there too.

949
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Speaker 7: I think that's gonna be a whole lot of fun.

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Speaker 6: You're talking, you're in that You're in that booth that

951
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 6: like Realmo and nanc are in.

952
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Speaker 5: Huh uh huh yeah, we're in that main booth.

953
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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure. Okay, so you're you're directly across the

954
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Speaker 6: field from Jerry and like because it is wild, like

955
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Speaker 6: if you haven't been to AT and T Stadium, like

956
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Speaker 6: it is interesting how they have like it's almost like

957
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: it comes out into the stands where the TV main

958
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Speaker 6: TV booth is and then where Jerry and and Steven

959
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Speaker 6: and and like Will McLay west the games.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I even for college games, I never

961
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Speaker 2: had a chance, like as a Cowboys fan, to get

962
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Speaker 2: down in the lower Bowl for a Cowboys game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I never got to walk by Nance or

964
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Speaker 5: Romo or I guess.

965
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Speaker 7: At that point it was Nansen.

966
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Speaker 5: Uh, I forget Phil Sims.

967
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Speaker 2: Yeah it was it was Sims at the time. But

968
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Speaker 2: never got to walk by those guys. But during college games,

969
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Speaker 2: like if Baylor and Texas Tech were playing, or if

970
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Speaker 2: it was the Cotton Bowl, I would.

971
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Speaker 5: Get down there and I would walk by and I

972
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Speaker 5: just kind.

973
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Speaker 2: Of peek in see who was in the booth and

974
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Speaker 2: who was there. And so it'll be really cool to

975
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Speaker 2: actually sit down and call a game.

976
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Speaker 5: Or I'll probably be standing and get.

977
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Speaker 7: Shaking or I don't know.

978
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Speaker 5: We'll see, we'll see how that ends up working out.

979
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Speaker 2: But really excited about the opportunity once again four pm

980
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Speaker 2: Central time kickoff CBS eleven in Dallas and then the

981
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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys TV Network as well, and then it'll also

982
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Speaker 2: replay on NFL Network the next morning, So if you

983
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Speaker 2: miss it live, you've got it, and if you're out

984
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Speaker 2: of market, you'll get it the next morning. I believe

985
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Speaker 2: it's eight thirty Central Time is when it airs on

986
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Speaker 2: NFL Network, so you'll get to see our broadcast there

987
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Speaker 2: as well. But as we wrap things up, I want

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Speaker 2: one key to a successful preseason, and I also want

989
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Speaker 2: one player to watch, John on who you have your

990
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: eyes on going into that first game against Jacksonville?

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Speaker 6: Oh, one player to watch too? Was fun. As I

992
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Speaker 6: mentioned earlier in the show about the Cavante Turpin, what

993
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Speaker 6: if duce Vaughan, you know he's going to get a

994
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: chance to return, I would think, because it doesn't sound

995
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Speaker 6: like Cavanti Turpin's gonna be returning any kicks. Kavanti Turpin's

996
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 6: gonna play, but it doesn't sound like they're gonna have

997
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Speaker 6: him doing any returning.

998
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 7: Uh.

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00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 6: What if duce Vaughan has just a monster game returning

1000
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 6: running everything? Uh, that would be wild. That would be

1001
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 6: such a huge, huge storyline coming out of that game.

1002
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Speaker 6: And then one aspect, did you.

1003
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Speaker 5: Say, what is the key to a successful preseason?

1004
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, obviously it'd be great to have two or

1005
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 6: three reserve offensive lineman step up. But even if you

1006
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Speaker 6: had one or two, let's say Josh Baul, you were

1007
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Speaker 6: just like man, I think he's ready if they needed him,

1008
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 6: he could step in, Matt Will let's go something like that.

1009
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Speaker 6: If if you come out of that, I don't even

1010
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 6: think you'd care what the scoreboard said.

1011
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's one of two ways to go with the key.

1012
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 8: I think you definitely took one of them. I think

1013
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Speaker 8: the other one would be a running back. Two emerges

1014
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 8: and it's solidified and that's it. And so for that

1015
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Speaker 8: Rico Daubteles who I'm really looking at going into this

1016
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Speaker 8: first preseason game. So two running backs.

1017
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 7: Wow, I think this.

1018
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 8: Like I said last week, this running back position probably

1019
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 8: has that's the biggest spotlight going into the preseason, just

1020
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Speaker 8: because it's still relatively unproven. I doubt Tony Pollard gets much,

1021
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 8: if any work. So it's they're gonna have their opportunities,

1022
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 8: that's for sure.

1023
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Speaker 5: That's gonna show you exactly what it will mean.

1024
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Speaker 2: I mean if if somebody breaks a big run in

1025
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Speaker 2: one of these preseason games, I mean it's gonna steck

1026
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Speaker 2: out kind of like the Cavante Turpin thing. Deuce Vaughn

1027
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Speaker 2: runs at sixty yards to the house, or Rico Daddle

1028
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: breaks a fifty five yard touchdown run. I mean things

1029
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: like that are going to stick in our mind because

1030
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Speaker 2: everybody's watching for it, everybody's waiting for it. I think,

1031
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: of course, the easy key is health. I mean, get

1032
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: out of it healthy for sure, no injuries. Make sure

1033
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: everybody's ready to go for Seattle, and then after that

1034
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Speaker 2: for Las Vegas, and then after that for Week one,

1035
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Speaker 2: And that's the most important going into that matchup with

1036
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: the New York Giants. But I think I don't think

1037
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm too far off from you guys. I want to

1038
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: see what the ground game can do because but I

1039
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: want to I want to take another aspect of it,

1040
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: though it's for the play calling side of things, because

1041
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: with this West Coast scheme, with this West Coast offense,

1042
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: Isaiah's talked about it, but we talked about it on

1043
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: his first show on Talking Cowboys out here in Oxnard.

1044
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: If you can't run the ball, it is tough to

1045
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: be successful in a West Coast offense because of the

1046
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: principles that it has, because of the way things are

1047
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: set up, and it all feeds off of the run.

1048
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, offensive lineman steps up, that's fantastic. Running back

1049
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: steps up, that's great. But if you're able to run

1050
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 2: the ball effectively, that's going to open up the entire offense.

1051
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: And I think that's that's what I'm looking for. I

1052
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: want to see the ground game continue to grow.

1053
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're gonna need to see that front seven, stay honest,

1054
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Speaker 7: go ahead.

1055
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 6: Oh no, I was just gonna say one other one

1056
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 6: is clearly Brandon Aubrey. They would love for out there,

1057
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 6: every kick, make it and just look like, oh yeah, no, no, no,

1058
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 6: this is the guy. I don't know why anybody had

1059
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 6: any doubts. This is gonna be the guy the entire time.

1060
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 6: They would love to come out of this game saying that.

1061
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing I said a little bit

1062
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: earlier about the running back position of Leonard Fordettz out there,

1063
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: he's floating around, But it would be nice for one

1064
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: of these guys. And I want to see what you

1065
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: have with the guys in house. I think it's the

1066
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: exact same situation at kicker. See what you have with

1067
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: Brandon Aubery. He's gonna get a shot to make every kick,

1068
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: make every pat go out.

1069
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 7: There and do his thing.

1070
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: But then once, once things go wrong, or if things

1071
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: go wrong, then all of a sudden, you've got to

1072
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: have some conversations there.

1073
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I think, okay, what's what's a yardage mark

1074
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 8: that if he hits would be okay? I think he

1075
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 8: might actually be the kicker? Is it forty seven? Is

1076
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 8: it fifty plus?

1077
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Speaker 7: Fifty plus?

1078
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 5: I want to see a fifty plus?

1079
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 7: You want to see a fifty plus?

1080
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1081
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 8: I do too, I mean, yeah, absolutely, But I would

1082
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 8: like to see a kick longer than what he's made

1083
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 8: out here. I think the longest one he's made out here. Uh,

1084
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Speaker 8: correigt me if I'm wrong.

1085
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 6: Forty three that sounds right, yeah, forty three. So what's

1086
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 6: the longest you think they've attemted? I can't remember see

1087
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Speaker 6: anything beyond forty eight.

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Speaker 7: Forty seven, forty eight? Yeah, I want to say forty

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00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 7: eight's right?

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Speaker 5: Is it just one of the mojo moments?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Once right? Put it? They pushed him back a

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00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 7: little bit.

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Speaker 6: Oh and one more thing in the running back thing

1094
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 6: you said about the four net thing. Oh yeah, believe me,

1095
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 6: you would love one of these young running backs to

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00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 6: be the guy to step up, because for me, if

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00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 6: that's the case, then it's not even just about this year,

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00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 6: because you're gonna be looking at next year to running

1099
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 6: back is gonna be a major thing going into the

1100
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 6: draft or agency all that, Like you would love her

1101
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 6: because for me, if you're doing Leonard Fournette, it's a

1102
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 6: one year deal, that's not even part. If one of

1103
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 6: these like Malik Davis Riquodout will do or all of

1104
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 6: them step up, then you're it's not just about like, man,

1105
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 6: that's great for this year. This is great for the

1106
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 6: position going forward.

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00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 8: Absolutely, and that's probably why they want to see these

1108
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 8: guys go ahead and play it out with this preseason.

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00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 7: That's probably a valid reason why.

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00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 5: All right, before we go, I need one one thing

1111
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 5: you need from me in the booth on on Saturday

1112
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 5: with what's one either like a like a keyword or

1113
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 5: a touchdown call.

1114
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: I want you to give me something just just so

1115
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: that way, And this isn't just for us at the desk,

1116
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: This for everybody listens to talking cowboys. This is gonna

1117
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: be my way to shout you guys out, so you

1118
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: remember this. Whenever I'm in the booth on Saturday, I'm

1119
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: gonna find a way to fit it in.

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Speaker 7: What what is the word or the phrase.

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00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 5: It can't be like a hot knife through butter or

1122
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: something cheesy like that. It's got to be something that

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00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 5: fits in.

1124
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 7: But just know when you hear it that.

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Speaker 6: That it's this is very easy for me, very easy

1126
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 6: for what.

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00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 8: Is Chris Beavers at the back saying no cap. If

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00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 8: you could say no cap during a broadcast, there's no

1129
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 8: way you can pull it off. Though, I'm gonna say,

1130
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna I'll let you go first. John, I'm

1131
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 8: gonna think of one.

1132
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: This one I was gonna say, just because of what

1133
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 6: we read there about that mascot being the Zebras. If

1134
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 6: you can call the Raps at some point the Zebras.

1135
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 5: That's way easier than saying no cap. So I like

1136
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 5: that idea a lot. That's a good one. Though that'd

1137
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 5: be a shout out to Grandy two.

1138
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 7: It would be. Man, I'm thinking hard.

1139
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 5: You're trying to you're trying to think of something.

1140
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say, plush as a pillow.

1141
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 8: I feel like you could work that in plush as

1142
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 8: a pillow. He's like, he's like, my best thought here.

1143
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm going no cap we'll work that in.

1144
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: I'll see if I can work in any of those three.

1145
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: If I can work in any of those three, everybody

1146
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: at home will have a chance. They'll they'll know I'm

1147
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: talking to Talking Cowboys Nation. I'm doing I'm doing the

1148
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: people's work. Okay, I'm here. I'm gonna try and I'll

1149
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: try and knock out all three. If I can get

1150
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: all three in there, then we're.

1151
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 6: Gonna throw an It was.

1152
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: All right, guys, that's gonna do it for us here

1153
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 5: on Talking Cowboys. Hope you enjoyed it.

1154
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday to break down everything we

1155
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: saw this weekend from the Jacksonville Dallas matchup at and

1156
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Speaker 2: T Stadium.

1157
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 5: But we're here Monday.

1158
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: Wednesday, and then we make a trip to Seattle and

1159
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: it'll be a whole lot of fun. John, You're not

1160
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: here next week, right.

1161
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 7: I'm not.

1162
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 6: But I want everybody to know out there that this

1163
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 6: is some of the worst weather. It looks like it

1164
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 6: might rain every's out here, and I want you, I

1165
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 6: want you to know for the record that we were

1166
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 6: gonna keep going. We were through the rain, yep because

1167
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 6: that's what Taylor swift'sman doing. And we can do the

1168
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 6: same thing here.

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Speaker 5: I love it, very nicely done.

1170
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: For Chris Beam in the back, for Nick Harris, for

1171
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Speaker 2: John Machoda, swifty of all swifties. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying

1172
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: so long. We'll see you next week for more Talking Cowboys.

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