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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast podcast. You'll play.

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Speaker 2: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers around Stop.

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Speaker 3: Did what's up you guys?

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Speaker 4: Welcome back into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 3: In his battle from Rock one to sixty seven. Of course,

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Speaker 3: A E W.

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Speaker 4: Is making their return to Salt Lake City aw Dynamite

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Speaker 4: and Rampage at the Maverick Center, which, by the way,

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Speaker 4: you can still grab tickets all Elite Wrestling dot com.

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Speaker 4: And on the show today we got a uh we

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Speaker 4: call this guy a friend because we are friends. A

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Speaker 4: friend of the show is back. Give it up for

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Speaker 4: Mark Briscoe. Everybody, Mark, how are you sir?

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Speaker 1: Was going on? Man, was going on. Good to be

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Speaker 1: here once again.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's it's it's always a party when when the

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Speaker 4: Briscos come on the show, and man, let's let's just

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Speaker 4: jump right into it. Everybody's talking about this Wednesday nights

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Speaker 4: you Chris Jericho the Learning Tree, uh in a ladder

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Speaker 4: war match for your.

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Speaker 3: Ring of Honor Heavyweight Championship.

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Speaker 4: How are you feeling mentally preparing for this kind of match?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, man, like it's is this is really like it's gone.

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Speaker 2: It's going it's gone. It's gone far enough. Man, it's

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Speaker 2: going on long enough because this is you know, man,

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Speaker 2: this is bullshit. Man like Jericho, like he I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he just thinks he gets a free pass

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Speaker 2: to to to do to say whatever he wants it.

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Speaker 1: But man like, dude, like, do you want to get hurt?

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Speaker 2: Man like, like like your life is gonna be in

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Speaker 2: my hands, like and like just for this man to

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Speaker 2: not have the self control or even maybe if he

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Speaker 2: does have that self control, but he voluntarily chooses to

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Speaker 2: continue man to to to bring up my brother's name

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Speaker 2: when I tell him, man like, like, keep my brother's

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Speaker 2: name out your mouth, like like, man, you're really gonna

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Speaker 2: get yourself hurt? You understand, Like I hope you're ready

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Speaker 2: for retirement. Man, I hope you're ready for that. I

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Speaker 2: hope you're prepared because it's ain't like this ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: go good for you man like, like you don't understand,

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Speaker 2: like like I'm not the one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the one.

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Speaker 2: I like you made a career of being a smart ass,

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Speaker 2: a cynical uh uh uh uh sarcastic dude. It has

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Speaker 2: gone good in other at other times in other avenues

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Speaker 2: and other aspects and in things that you've done in wrestling.

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Speaker 1: But man, don't don't like no, like not with me,

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Speaker 1: not right now, not talking. Man, don't like I said.

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Speaker 2: Like, Hey, I'm saying, is anybody who is would like

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Speaker 2: to see Chris Jericho legitimately get his ass will and legitimately?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this might be it for Chris Jericho. He's

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Speaker 2: at a hall of a career, hall of a career.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not doubting that. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: act like that's not the case whatsoever. And hey, and

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Speaker 2: this damn well might be it, man, this might be

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Speaker 2: it because I'm tired of it. Man, I'm tired of it,

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Speaker 2: like seriously, like it's ain't it ain't funny, man, it ain't.

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Speaker 3: It's not games, dude, it's not absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is is you look at at your

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Speaker 4: history when it comes to matches, you look at Jericho's

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Speaker 4: history of matches. I think You've been in more, way,

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Speaker 4: more aggressive, way more extreme matches than Jericho's been in.

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Speaker 2: See that's what I mean. Me and my brother, that's

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Speaker 2: what we that's what we came up on. We would

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Speaker 2: like as we was when we were when we were children,

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Speaker 2: when we were small children, you know, four or five,

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Speaker 2: six years old, we were Hawk Hogan, Hawk Hogan, an

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Speaker 2: ultimate warrior all day long. But right about it, the

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Speaker 2: first time that we ever got a glimpse at the

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Speaker 2: original ECW, not ww ww F style ECW. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: back in the mid nineties.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's when we fell in love with professional wrestling.

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Speaker 2: That's when it was rather than just being oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's when it was like, all right, we

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Speaker 2: And so we that's what we've been doing our whole career.

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Speaker 2: That's what we've been been focused on. Like the violence,

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Speaker 2: that's the Like Jericho, you're a wonderful sports entertainer, you

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Speaker 2: it's it's just not a good idea. Man's just not

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Speaker 2: a good idea to to It's like signing your own

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Speaker 2: death warrant, you know what I mean. It's barking up

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Speaker 2: the wrong tree. But yeah, it's this is this is

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Speaker 2: right up my wheelhouse. I'm like, I got the opposite

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Speaker 2: of the opposite of nerves. It's like, I'm so ready

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Speaker 2: and I'm so prepared that man, I just don't I

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Speaker 2: don't know how long I'm gonna want to just punish

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Speaker 2: of my only debate in my head is how long

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Speaker 2: do I punish this man? Because it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: you know, I just I just feel sorry for him.

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Speaker 2: He's had such a wonderful career and you know, but hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, to go out in the blaze of blood

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And of course tomorrow night we're gonna see

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Speaker 4: Chris Jericho's career ended by Mark Briscoe aw Dynamite and

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Speaker 4: Rampage over there at the Maverick Center. You can still

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Speaker 4: grab tickets all Elite Wrestling dot Com and.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people have seen this show.

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Speaker 4: We've had you and your brother on multiple times, and

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Speaker 4: you've had a legendary career with your brother.

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Speaker 3: But now you're.

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Speaker 4: Making big moves in the single division. You're making a

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Speaker 4: personally to carry that Brisco legacy forward in this new

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Speaker 2: Man, it's like it's like such an honor dude, because

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, me and Jay we were. It's

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Speaker 2: funny because when we was getting into wrestling, you know,

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Speaker 2: it all started in the backyard. We we it was

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Speaker 2: the trampoline and went through the trampoline canvas, and then

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Speaker 2: But it's always me versus him. So it was like

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Speaker 2: they were going to put us in a tag team

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Speaker 2: but when we start training up at Wrestle Tech in Wilmington, Delaware,

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Speaker 2: and then they're like, okay, so we think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: call you guys the Briscoe Brothers two thousand. You remind

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Speaker 2: us of Jack, Jack and Jerry Briscoe. You guys got

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Speaker 2: and Jerry Briscoe. We're gonna call you the Briscoe Brothers

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Speaker 2: two thousand and that's the first time I thought, oh, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be a tag team.

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Speaker 1: And then there's his history, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's one of the things where I just

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Speaker 2: twenty you know what I mean, twenty two years, twenty

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Speaker 2: three year career of you know what I mean, all

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Speaker 2: it really is. It's an honor to be able to

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Speaker 2: though that was never you know since the backyard days

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Speaker 2: that's not been by bread and butter, but that was like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I remember how to do this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's good to see you know right now

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Speaker 4: everything that's going for you. I mean, it's great that

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Speaker 4: you've got that Ros championship around your waist. And as

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Speaker 4: collect belts, I did pop mark out, as the kids

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Speaker 4: say a little bit when you know you debuted your

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Speaker 3: Absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 1: So well. You know, I had to make a quick,

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Speaker 1: I think you're about.

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Speaker 4: To get about to have a surprise running in a second.

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Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, we're good. Let me get back to

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Speaker 2: my Let me get back to my battle station.

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Speaker 3: Had almost had a surprise running for a second there.

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Speaker 2: I will say, Man, the other day I was talking

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's great, that's great, man.

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Speaker 4: And you know a lot of people have been talking

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Speaker 4: about this run that you're on with Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 4: You've got the world Heavyweight Championship. You've made it your

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Speaker 3: Championship, which is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're talking about in ro eh, uh,

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Speaker 2: give me a second to ponder that one. But I

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Speaker 2: five in my book anyway, and that is Athena the

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Speaker 2: the I mean the way that she has has carried

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Speaker 1: And I mean just whenever.

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Speaker 1: So uh.

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Speaker 2: But as far as breakout start in I mean in

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Speaker 2: Ring of Honor, I mean, man, that's that's a tough

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Speaker 2: question because there's so much young talent, there's so much,

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Speaker 1: I mean, uh, dag on Man, you put me on

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Speaker 1: the spot there.

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Speaker 2: It's a I mean, you know, I'm trying to think

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Speaker 2: and he's he's I say, he's probably considered the ae

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Speaker 2: W guy by now. But guy that I wrestled for

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Speaker 2: the title for the Ring of Honor title on Honor

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Speaker 2: Club a couple of months ago because he pinned me

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Speaker 2: on Dynamite was Kyle Fletcher. Kyle Fletcher is a blue

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Speaker 2: chip five star prospect and he's, uh, he's just starting

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Speaker 2: to really make ways and to really just show what

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Speaker 2: he can do.

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Speaker 1: So Man, keep an eye on Fletcher for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that that's one.

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Speaker 4: Especially now that he's turned on Ospray and he's kind

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Speaker 4: We we briefly talked about it tomorrow night. You Chris

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Speaker 1: Chris Jericho was part of that match, but that was man,

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Speaker 2: This is a ladder war, like I've seen. I had

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Speaker 1: And Bob said, what it so? You got a ladder

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Speaker 2: What's the difference when a ladder matching a ladder war?

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Speaker 2: I said, that is exactly what it's called. Is it's

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Speaker 1: It's a war. This is I mean this to be expected,

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Speaker 2: A ladder war is first you go to war and

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Speaker 1: And then when the time is right, if I.

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Speaker 1: But this is man, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: This is a war man like like they used to

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Speaker 2: I'm I've been two steps ahead ahead of him the

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Speaker 2: But already I got his number. Man, I got his number.

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Speaker 2: And he can't bring the violence he's got. He's got experience,

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Speaker 2: But I got experienced too.

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Speaker 2: I mean that being said, he just he's uh, he

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Speaker 4: I think I think a lot of people are kind

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's gonna get those hands from you.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he knows what he's getting ready to

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be pretty gnarly.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow Night's ae W Dynamite is in Salt Lake at

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Speaker 4: the Maverick Center. You can still grab tickets all Elite

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Speaker 4: Wrestling dot com.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Before we let you go, because I know your time

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Speaker 4: course have seen you and some of the most craziest,

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Is there one match a moment that still gives you

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Speaker 3: And how does that compare.

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Speaker 4: To uh, you know, tomorrow night's match that you're getting

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Speaker 1: Man, that definitely is plenty of matches and moments. I mean,

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Speaker 2: goes in The Young Bucks Man. We wrestled. We ain't

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Speaker 2: I mean the stuff that we got to do with

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well you know, we we we don't want

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Speaker 4: whooping that you're gonna give Jericho tomorrow nights h a

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Speaker 3: You can still grab tickets.

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Speaker 4: It's at the Maverick Center, all Elite Wrestling dot com.

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Speaker 4: Uh mark before we let you go, man, anything you

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey, just wanta spread the love, baby, Just wanna

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Speaker 2: spread the love people. You know, there's different wrestling promotions

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Speaker 2: no matter where you ingest your wrestling, no matter where

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Speaker 1: And there's just people that's that's just on that on

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Speaker 2: Some people that just like just can't they're blinded by

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Speaker 2: it ain't how y'all got time for that. How y'all

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Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all don't want to die at a young age

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Speaker 2: So that's I mean, the the first thing I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: If it's something you don't like, guess what, don't watch it.

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