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Speaker 1: Please don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Aer

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Speaker 2: Tords Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: It's that amazing time of year.

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Speaker 2: Playoff football is in the air, and as de Seger

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Speaker 2: just told you, a late fourth quarter touchdown by the

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers has put them up twenty seven to sixteen.

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Speaker 2: It was a twenty one sixteen game with the Bears

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Speaker 2: scoring the first thirteen points of the second half. Bears

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Speaker 2: are driving, but they do trail by two possessions. Now

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Speaker 2: five thirty seven left, about five minutes closer to five

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Speaker 2: minutes left. Bears need two scores. Five minutes left. I

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Speaker 2: believe they have their timeouts. My eyes are getting old,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know anything anymore. But Jay Mart, what's

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Speaker 2: going on? Bears do, in fact have all three timeouts,

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Speaker 2: Trailing twenty seven sixteen, about five minutes left in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, needing two scores.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Jmart?

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Speaker 3: How you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty well, man. At least we got some

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Speaker 4: drama out of this game, even though I think it's

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Speaker 4: still gonna go the way it did when it was

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Speaker 4: twenty one to three. But both these games today, the

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Speaker 4: early game, I think a lot of people just didn't

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Speaker 4: anticipate being very good, and we actually ended up getting

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Speaker 4: something pretty fun out of that. And that was really

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Speaker 4: the only one all weekend that I wasn't looking forward

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Speaker 4: to watching necessarily. So I'm pretty excited because I feel

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Speaker 4: like we've gotten maybe we've gotten to dregs out of

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Speaker 4: the way, and it turned out not to be that bad,

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Speaker 4: and we are set up for an awesome Sunday and

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Speaker 4: an awesome Monday. Not to mention what's happening in college

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Speaker 4: football and everything sports is just everywhere right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to the early game in a second,

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Speaker 2: but let's stick with this one right now. Twenty seven sixteen.

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Speaker 2: You know j Martin obviously, look, the story is what

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love is doing. Four touchdown passes, two hundred twenty

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Speaker 2: six yards and has the Packers in position. I think

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Speaker 2: what the other story is, and I think I think

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Speaker 2: you would probably feel the same way. Bears two of

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Speaker 2: six on third down that included a turnover on downs

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Speaker 2: late in the second half that led to a Packers score,

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Speaker 2: and then, oh, by the way, a Caleb Williams interception

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Speaker 2: on a fourth down in the red zone in the

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Speaker 2: second half. So we are talking about a lot of points.

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Speaker 2: Kind of flipping hands there for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 2: two of six on fourth down. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: Bears are officially in the red zone. They are driving,

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Speaker 2: trailing twenty seven to sixteen. Again, we'll keep you posted

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Speaker 2: on what happens going forward, but if the Bears don't

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Speaker 2: hold on, I think the fourth down stuff is probably

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Speaker 2: what will be the conversation the rest of the night

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Speaker 2: into tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, you know, I understand being aggressive and

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Speaker 4: your defense has, you know, not really put you in

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Speaker 4: great positions a lot this year. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: you gave Green Bay some short fields. But they've had

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Speaker 4: their moments. I just there are three times I saw

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Speaker 4: this statnos is kind of blown away that three times

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Speaker 4: against the Packers this year they had a fourth and

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Speaker 4: one and they didn't run the ball on any of

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Speaker 4: them in there, zero and three on those. By the way,

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Speaker 4: this game just got closer.

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Speaker 3: Oh so now you're ahead of us, How dare you?

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Speaker 4: Wow? My Amazon must be faster. It's my cable.

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Speaker 2: That's not okay, Well, we'll call Jeff Bezos. But in fact,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin just broke the news. A passing touchdown by

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams has cut the lead to twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: twenty two, I would assume, and they are in fact

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Speaker 2: going to go for two here. It is a five

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Speaker 2: point game with four minutes to go. Bear still have

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Speaker 2: all three timeouts left plus the two minute warning. It

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Speaker 2: is twenty seven to twenty two, the two point attempt pending.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens here. But it is an interesting game,

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Speaker 2: and it certainly just got much more interesting with a

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Speaker 2: touchdown pass from Caleb Williams with four eighteen left to go.

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Speaker 4: J Martin, Yeah, no, it is. Look these are division

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Speaker 4: game and now it's a field goal game. Oh darn it,

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Speaker 4: I just gonna spoil it for you. See this, I

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Speaker 4: just want you to experience. I want you to experience

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Speaker 4: what I deal with on a weekly basis with you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, let's see here.

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Speaker 2: We do, in fact have a two point attempt by

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Speaker 2: the Bears that we know is good thanks to Jason Martin.

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Speaker 4: Colston Lovelin's having himself a night. Colston's like he's been

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Speaker 4: He's been like the guy all night for Kayleb Williams

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Speaker 4: like talk about a safety blanket at tight end. Colston

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Speaker 4: Loveland has been everywhere they needed him to be in

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Speaker 4: this game.

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Speaker 2: Seven catches one hundred and twenty five yards for Colston Loveland,

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Speaker 2: including a.

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Speaker 3: Two point conversion.

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Speaker 2: They keep showing the fans grating cheese every time the

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Speaker 2: Bears score. So, yeah, it's twenty seven to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So to reset, we came on. As de Seger told you,

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Speaker 2: it was twenty one to three at the half. And

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Speaker 2: what's crazy about this game is it's twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: twenty four, and again to reset, the Bears have shot

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Speaker 2: themselves in the foot one time after the other after

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Speaker 2: the other, two of.

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Speaker 3: Six on third or on fourth down. Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: In this game, Ben Johnson went for it late in

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Speaker 2: the first half, deep in his own territory. They did

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Speaker 2: not get it. It set up a touchdown from the

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. And then in the second half, it

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Speaker 2: was interesting. They kicked a field goal early in the half,

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Speaker 2: then decided to go for it on fourth down. That

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Speaker 2: was when Caleb Williams threw an interception. And to your point,

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Speaker 2: j Mart, they chose to throw the ball rather than

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Speaker 2: win it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I don't mean to laugh.

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Speaker 2: Caleb's doing the pump up speech on the sidelines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tough to do that after some of the other

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Speaker 4: stuff you've seen him do in this game.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, I'm just gonna say it, and if

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Speaker 2: I get canceled, I get canceled. His nails are glittering

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Speaker 2: in the light of the of Soldier field, and I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, if I'm a three hundred and twenty pound

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Speaker 2: offensive line I don't know if again, if you, if

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Speaker 2: America wants to cancel me for.

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Speaker 4: Saying it, I'm just as long as long as he

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Speaker 4: wants to identify as a quarterback up Yeah with it.

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Speaker 2: He is identifying as a quarterback, and he is. It's

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Speaker 2: been up and down, but he is certainly having a

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Speaker 2: much better second half with that with that score right there,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and one yards passing, he does have the

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. So I guess the best move for us

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Speaker 2: right now is to kind of keep you updated because

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Speaker 2: there's four to twelve left. The Bears have all three timeouts.

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Speaker 2: I would assume they're not going to necessarily use him

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Speaker 2: this second, but this game is coming down to the wire.

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Speaker 3: No one else came out of the wire. How about

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Speaker 3: Rams Panthers.

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Speaker 4: How about it? Wild game.

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Speaker 2: We have the sound of the final play right, Just

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Speaker 2: give me a thumbs up when it's ready. I know

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Speaker 2: we asked for it before the show, but it was

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Speaker 2: a back and forth game.

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Speaker 3: And here is how it sounded.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen seconds left Rams trailing late in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: From the nineteen.

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Speaker 5: Stafford has it helmet high, settles his feet, shoots right side,

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Speaker 5: leaping catch touchdown.

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Speaker 3: La wow at the front pylon.

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Speaker 5: Colby Parkinson gives the Rams the lead with thirty eight

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Speaker 5: seconds to go. And absolute dot from Stafford thirty three

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Speaker 5: thirty one and the try coming.

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Speaker 2: That is courtesy a RAMS radio network. And you heard

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Speaker 2: all the details. A Matthew Stafford touchdown pass to Colby Parkinson.

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Speaker 2: Carolina had taken the lead late in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: short field on a blocked punt. Everything was going against

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Speaker 2: the Rams, but they drive the length of the field

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Speaker 2: seventy one yards Matthew Stafford to Colby Parkinson. Rams survived.

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Speaker 2: Jmart raps we saw what just happened? Well, now I did.

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Speaker 2: We got a deep pass from Jordan Love. Is that

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Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs.

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Speaker 4: That's a one handed catch on the run. That's that's

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Speaker 4: pretty impressive from Romeo Dobs. But yeah, back to that

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Speaker 4: look and Panthers. Panthers played really hard, made some serious

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Speaker 4: mistakes early in the game, and really still had it

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Speaker 4: to win. And then Stafford had one drive in him

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Speaker 4: didn't play particularly well at all in the second half.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he was hurt, his hand had gotten injured, his

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Speaker 4: then his stats kind of tanked after that. But Carolina's

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Speaker 4: defense played really well. The receivers for Carolina, outside of

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Speaker 4: one play, really played exceptionally well. Bryce Young I thought

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Speaker 4: played well outside of a couple of plays. That game

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Speaker 4: was a I think that was the largest spread maybe

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Speaker 4: in playoff history.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I don't think it was.

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Speaker 4: It either was or it was. It was the biggest

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Speaker 4: in like decades. It was like a ten point deal,

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Speaker 4: and obviously the Panthers were able to cover that. But

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Speaker 4: it just you can't hang your head if you're the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: You make it in you're eight and nine in the

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Speaker 4: second quarter. I don't want to watch the Panthers. They

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Speaker 4: shouldn't have made it. We can't do this anymore. And

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Speaker 4: then they almost beat the Rams, and I think the

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Speaker 4: biggest thing the biggest takeaway here is the Rams still

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Speaker 4: got out of there with the win. You can certainly

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Speaker 4: call that an escape, There's no question about that. And

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Speaker 4: now you're watching this to see whether or not, you know,

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Speaker 4: am I going to go to Seattle or is there

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Speaker 4: going to be another alternative for the Rams? But if

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Speaker 4: the Rams play that way next week against whoever they play,

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Speaker 4: they will get beaten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the big thing to me, Stafford said

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Speaker 2: after the game that the hand was fine, did not

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Speaker 2: look fine. By the way, another first down, another pass

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Speaker 2: to Matthew gold and Matthew Golden, by the way, in

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Speaker 2: this Packers Bears game, gave the Packers the lead twenty

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Speaker 2: seven at the time, twenty seven sixteen first touched out

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Speaker 2: of the entire season for the first rounder. He has

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Speaker 2: picked up another first round, a first down. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Packers are just about in the red zone again. They're

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Speaker 2: up twenty seven to twenty four. So we'll keep you

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Speaker 2: updated on this one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: With Stafford, you know, he said all the right things

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Speaker 2: after the game about the hand. It did not look right,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the To me, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: else there is to say other than one to your point,

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Speaker 2: Panthers proved they belong. Panthers played better than certainly anybody

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Speaker 2: including Vegas expected. Again, I think they were about a

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Speaker 2: nine and a half ten point underdog in that game

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Speaker 2: at home. I would have some concerns about the Rams,

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Speaker 2: with the way that they played in the second half,

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Speaker 2: specifically with Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Going forward. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: We don't even know, as you said, who they'll play,

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Speaker 2: but to me, I do think i'd be a little

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Speaker 2: bit worried about that hand and about how he looked

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Speaker 2: in the second half. Pukainakua, by the way, was awesome

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Speaker 2: in this game. A couple of touchdown passes, a couple

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Speaker 2: of touchdown receptions early, they did enough to get this win.

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Speaker 4: He made the biggest play of the game. Look, he

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Speaker 4: had a touchdown drop that was just incredible, Like you

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Speaker 2: As we've said in the late game, Soldier Field, green

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Speaker 2: Green Bay up twenty seven to twenty four, three minutes left.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin broadcasting.

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Speaker 4: Lie, No, that should have been caught what you're reacting to?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are live. You know you don't hear that

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Speaker 2: eleven twenty two Eastern time, getting you updated Soldier Field.

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Speaker 2: When we left you, the Packers were lining up for

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean anything to add anything new.

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Speaker 2: Since we last spoke Jmart, but we got ourselves a

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Speaker 4: Look, man, this is disaster if the Packers find a

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Speaker 4: And just watched the football game for about twenty seconds

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, huh oh, I'm gonna tell you what happened.

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Speaker 2: gonna say, Caleb Wilson, that's a basketball player at North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Now, J Mart, there will be a time and a

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Speaker 4: Look, I mean, you can't get much better than this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's coming right down to the wire. Kylo's

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Speaker 4: My man, it's a fair point, but I mean, there

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, why don't we switch gears? Because

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Speaker 2: Really quickly, I promise you, i'd be interrupting the Harbaugh conversation.

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Speaker 2: In Soldier Field. We are under a minute, Bears up

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Speaker 2: Don't have to be great at matth to know that

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Speaker 3: As goodness gracious Jalen Reed ball hit him in his hands.

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Speaker 2: I'm I mean that would have put him out a

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Speaker 2: probably about the twenty five yard line, maybe even inside

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Speaker 2: the red zone.

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Speaker 3: Hit him into his hands.

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Speaker 2: Against Chicago up thirty one to twenty seven, Packers have

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Speaker 2: the ball about midfield. It's now third and three. That

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Speaker 2: was a big one and if they lose this game,

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Speaker 2: you know that's gonna be one of many. By the way,

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Speaker 2: there was a drop pass on fourth down for Carolina

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Speaker 2: as well, which sealed them. But the tell you what,

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Speaker 2: the Packers have picked up a first down, they have

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Speaker 2: cross midfield, were under fifty seconds to go as they

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Speaker 2: move the chains. Crazy game, j Mart, crazy freaking game, crazy.

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Speaker 4: Game, no doubt. And they just showed bing Manison's sidelines

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Speaker 4: who missed that kick as we went to commercial break.

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Speaker 4: And of course now it's a four point game, so

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Speaker 4: he's not gonna be able to help them at all.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know exactly why they showed him, except

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Speaker 4: maybe to shame him. It's on mute, so I'm not

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Speaker 4: exactly sure what the role there was. I have been, well,

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Speaker 4: you missed that kick and that's why we're in this

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Speaker 4: situation or whatever. But this game is not over, is

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Speaker 4: no question about that.

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Speaker 3: No question about it.

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Speaker 2: Forty four seconds left the Packers have converted a fourth down,

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Speaker 2: or if they've gotten a first down, I should say

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Speaker 2: forty four seconds left. They did just use their final

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Speaker 2: time out first and ten inside the fifty and they

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Speaker 2: need to get moving here to get the victory over

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Speaker 2: the Bears. Oh my goodness, jaywal we're not supposed to

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Speaker 2: be doing play by play, but they have completed a

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Speaker 2: pass to Jalen Reid.

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Speaker 4: I've just yeah, I've just decided to let you see

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Speaker 4: it in real time and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, thank you. Well, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: We have an injury timeout, so if there's any time

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Speaker 2: like the present to get it over to the news

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Speaker 2: desk with Steve Desager to Sega and ask you what's trending.

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Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to do play by play. If you

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Speaker 3: want to do play by play.

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Speaker 4: He's furious because he can't just sit and watch right now, yes,

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Speaker 4: interrupting this incredible guys, do we realize that they've played

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Speaker 4: each other three times now, Packers and bail all in

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Speaker 4: about the last month, and they've all been this incredible

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter game each time.

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Speaker 9: And the Chicago Bears were down at home twenty one

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Speaker 9: to three at the half to Chicago to Green Bay

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Speaker 9: tonight in this wild card playoff game, Chicago allowed Jordan

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Speaker 9: Love on the first three drives, three touchdown passes, and

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Speaker 9: yet Bears came back to get within twenty one sixteen

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Speaker 9: in the fourth And these last ten minutes have been incredible.

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Speaker 9: You mentioned the game that Colston Lovelin has had the

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Speaker 9: other tight end, Cole Comet no catches at all, and

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Speaker 9: Roman dunsa Is playing for Chicago, has two catches. But

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Speaker 9: Colston lovel is the first rookie tight end since the

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Speaker 9: merger in nineteen seventy to have three straight games now

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Speaker 9: with at least ninety receiving yards. They've targeted him fifteen

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Speaker 9: times tonight he has eight catches, one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 9: seven yards, and a great stat they put up on

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Speaker 9: the Amazon broadcast he's the first rookie tight end with

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Speaker 9: one hundred yard receiving game in the playoffs since Keith

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Speaker 9: Jackson nineteen eight. Wow, which means that would have been

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Speaker 9: the fog ball that Jackson's Eagles lost on this field

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Speaker 9: at Chicago way back when thirty one twenty seven Bears

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Speaker 9: holding on And you cannot overemphasize what you talked about

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Speaker 9: with the veteran kicker Brandon McManus. By the way, Love

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Speaker 9: as they resume, has just thrown incomplete at the goal line.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be second and ten under twenty seconds

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Speaker 9: to go. Packers down four, not only because of the

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Speaker 9: missed extra point in the second half, but also in

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Speaker 9: the fourth quarter about three minutes left, there was a

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Speaker 9: Green Bay delay of game penalty that took a third

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Speaker 9: and ten to a third and fifteen, and then after

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Speaker 9: they threw incomplete that made the field goal attempt longer,

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Speaker 9: and McManus missed wide right from forty four yards out.

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Speaker 9: And at the very end of the first half, when

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Speaker 9: the Packers had been rolling, McManus missed a fifty five

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Speaker 9: yard field goal wide left. So Green Bay is down

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Speaker 9: four and a false start penalty on the offense just

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Speaker 9: second and.

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Speaker 2: Fifty'll tell you this, you know, j mart You and

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Speaker 2: I have been a little critical of Jordan Love.

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Speaker 3: They lose tonight.

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Speaker 2: He's hit in his receivers right in the hands, like

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Speaker 2: some of his guys got to make plays.

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Speaker 3: Kristian Watson just had another one.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the easiest catch to make, but it hit

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Speaker 2: him in a spot where he should have been able

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Speaker 2: to catch.

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Speaker 4: He's playing well enough that they should win the game.

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Speaker 9: Agreed correct, Not just the kicker but others around him,

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Speaker 9: as you say. And Christian Watson had the touchdown catch

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Speaker 9: on their very first drive in the night. He has

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Speaker 9: only two receptions the rest of the night. Romeo Dobbs

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Speaker 9: has been targeted eleven times, has eight receptions, one hundred

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Speaker 9: and twenty four yards and a score. Josh Jacobs nineteen

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Speaker 9: carries just fifty five yards under three yards of carry

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Speaker 9: the Bears. It took them a very long time to

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Speaker 9: get going on the ground tonight, just over fifty yards

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Speaker 9: rushing for DeAndre Swift and a score. We have had

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Speaker 9: an incomplete from Jordan Loves. His arm was hit while

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Speaker 9: rowing the ball, so a third and fifteen is coming up.

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Speaker 9: They're inside the Chicago thirty again down four, which changes everything. Currently,

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Speaker 9: there is a discussion with Ben Johnson and the ref

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Speaker 9: on the sideline. They're showing two seconds, but it will

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Speaker 9: be third down for the Packers offense again. Packers were

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Speaker 9: up twenty one to three at the half. Earlier, the

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Speaker 9: Rams won on a touchdown pass in the final minute

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Speaker 9: at Carolina thirty four to thirty one. Matthew Stafford three

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Speaker 9: td passes three hundred and four yards through the air.

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Speaker 9: Despite a finger injury, Puchinakua had ten catches for one

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Speaker 9: to eleven and two total touchdowns. The final play of

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Speaker 9: the game, These last ten seconds or so, all the

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Speaker 9: time coming off the clock as Jordan Love stays in

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Speaker 9: the pocket and throws to the goal lining complete.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 9: The Chicago Bears have just won in an incredible playoff comeback.

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Speaker 9: They advance, the two seeds are somehow alive, and the

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Speaker 9: Packers season ends with five straight losses and in this case,

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Speaker 9: a blown lead of twenty one to three at.

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Speaker 4: B the world was that last play he took?

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Speaker 3: Forever?

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Speaker 4: I know he fumbled the snat, but what on Earth.

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Speaker 9: Doesn't mean you have to take the last what was it?

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Speaker 9: Seven to nine seconds?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 9: Thirty one twenty seven Chicago. So Caleb Williams, who had

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Speaker 9: two interceptions thrown winds up with two touchdown passes and

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Speaker 9: three hundred and sixty one yards on the air, And gentlemen,

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Speaker 9: we can update the stat The Chicago Bears now have

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Speaker 9: seven different victories when they trail with two minutes left

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Speaker 9: in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: That's just dumb.

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Speaker 9: Last second victory seven two minutes left trailing with two

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Speaker 9: minutes left in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Last season Sea.

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Speaker 9: Last season they had five wins total. This year, seven

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Speaker 9: of their wins are like this, and it's this wasn't

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Speaker 9: a Bears type of game. They didn't win the turnover

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Speaker 9: margin like they usually, they didn't have the rushing game

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Speaker 9: going like they used, and yet still magic at the

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Speaker 9: end back to you.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say.

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Speaker 2: In a related story, Matt Eberflus fired earlier this week,

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Speaker 2: so tells you unbelievable final score in Soldier Field. The

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Speaker 2: sager just told you thirty one to twenty seven. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know what to say again. Packers up twenty

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Speaker 2: one to three at the half. Bears two of six

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Speaker 2: on fourth down, including in the late in the third

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Speaker 2: quarter of Caleb Williams interception wasn't really his fault, but

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Speaker 2: you know DJ moorefell he threw it up.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, wild game. Wow, I don't I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the takeaway is other than absolute insanity.

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Speaker 2: The Stata Seger just gave it, gave us, told tells

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Speaker 2: us all seven wins when trailing by trailing in the

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Speaker 2: final two minutes of a game.

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Speaker 4: It's just dumb, like that's just that should never happen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is insane.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they won the game. I really don't.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be a hard one to swallow for

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Speaker 4: Packers fans. It really is. You're up twenty one to three.

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Speaker 4: They are falling all over themselves. Caleb Williams has some

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Speaker 4: of the worst body language you've ever seen. He's on

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Speaker 4: the sidelines, dropping f bombs, cursing all over the place,

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Speaker 4: and he's the one right now that's talking to Kaylee

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Speaker 4: on the field after whatever that fourth quarter was. That's

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Speaker 4: just crazy. They had twenty five points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Yes, wow, So let's reset.

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Speaker 2: This and we got another two and a half hours.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we might have to open up the

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Speaker 2: phone lines. Let some people call in share their thoughts.

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Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers fall at Soldier Field, final score

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Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty seven. Bears go the length of

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Speaker 2: the field after a field goal missed by the Packers.

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Speaker 2: The two stats that I just have heard. The Bears

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Speaker 2: scored twenty five points in the fourth quarter per Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: and the Bears have now won seven games win trailing in.

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Speaker 3: The final two minutes this season. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: We just got to open up the phone lines one

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six six three six nine. Incredible win

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Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears. Major meltdown for the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: What is the story to you? Chicago Bears trailed twenty

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Speaker 2: one to three at the half, rally to win thirty

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Speaker 2: one to twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Let us know your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: One eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox One eight

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Speaker 2: seven to seven, nine nine, six six three six nine.

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Speaker 3: We need a second to collect arbait a second.

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Speaker 4: So this is funny, right, Chicago fan, and I want

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Speaker 4: to hear people from Wisconsin too, but Chicago are Packers

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Speaker 4: fans anywhere? But so the Bears won this game, and

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Speaker 4: in the course of what was happening in the late

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Speaker 4: third and early fourth quarter, the Cubs signed Alex Bragman.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so Chicago sports fans are having having themselves

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Speaker 4: an evening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Manzi and Martin when I when we

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Speaker 2: came into the studio today said you're leading with Alex Pragman.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, we're not leading with Alex Pragman.

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Speaker 4: That was pretty much all we'll say about it.

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Speaker 3: But yes, incredible rally.

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Speaker 2: Again, the Bears trailed twenty one to three at halftime,

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Speaker 2: they win thirty one to twenty seven. Give us your thoughts.

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00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: If you're in Wisconsin, we want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: If you're in Chicago, if you're a Bears fan. One

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight, seven, seven, nine, nine, six,

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Speaker 2: six three sixty nine. Ertors Jason Martin full postgame coverage

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Speaker 2: until two am Eastern Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Aertoris Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the five Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are live.

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Speaker 2: It is eleven forty seven Eastern time, and the party

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Speaker 2: has not stopped at Soldier Field. On the Amazon broadcast,

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Speaker 2: it looks like a person has not left. The Bears

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Speaker 2: trailed twenty one to three at the half, They trailed

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Speaker 2: twenty seven sixteen in the fourth quarter, and they rallied

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Speaker 2: to win thirty one to twenty seven. A Packers field

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Speaker 2: goal miss late in the game gave Caleb Williams the

661
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Speaker 2: ball back with one forty three left. He drives the

662
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Speaker 2: length of the field. A twenty five yard touchdown pass

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Speaker 2: to DJ Moore seals the victory. The Bears have moved on.

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Speaker 2: The phone lines are jammed up. J mart any quick,

665
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Speaker 2: I mean, we got two hours more to talk about

666
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Speaker 2: this game, But any quick thoughts on this given that

667
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: you know, we want to get some calls here of

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Speaker 2: people that are listening.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying not to be a knee jerk reactor.

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Speaker 3: You wont Matt Laflor.

671
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Speaker 4: I think Matt Lafluor is gonna be fired.

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Speaker 3: Really, I think he might be.

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Speaker 4: I'm serious, like, I think it's a better than fifty

674
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: to fifty shot that he is fired by Monday.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's take a look here. This is for Matt Lafleur.

676
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: He got the job in twenty nineteen. Obviously that first

677
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: year makes the af NFC Championship game. Excuse me, then

678
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: he loses. I mean, listen, you and I were on

679
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: air right the year that they had the number one seed.

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Speaker 4: That was the That was the night I went to

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00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: the Tennessee Cincinnati game in the cold where Burrow and

682
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 4: company knocked out the number one seed Titans, and on

683
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Speaker 4: the same night the Niners knocked out Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so the last let's see here, one, two, three, four,

685
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: five seasons. So you loses the number one seed at

686
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: home to San Francisco, missed the playoffs. In Aaron Rodgers'

687
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: final year, you lose to San Francisco in the playoffs

688
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Speaker 2: in twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Last year, you lose the playoff overmolished, got demolish.

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Speaker 2: Now that was the year that they did beat the

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00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys in Jerry World, so that is fair and

692
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: worth noting. Last year lost to the Eagles in the

693
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: wildcard weekend on wildcard weekend, I should say, and they

694
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: lose again on wildcard weekend. So the last four seasons,

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00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: three playoff appearances, one playoff win, a total meltdown at

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Speaker 2: least in my opinion, thirty one to twenty seven. And

697
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: I'll just say this too, And I do want to

698
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: get to some calls. You know, I have been very

699
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: critical of Jordan Love. Jordan Love was awesome in this game.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of touchdown passes late in the game. He

701
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Speaker 2: four touchdown passes three hundred and twenty three yards, and

702
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Speaker 2: there were two or three plays late in the game

703
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: where he hit his receivers square in the hands and

704
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: they dropped it. The Packers fall thirty one to twenty

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Speaker 2: seven at Soldier Field. I'll tell you what we got

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Speaker 2: Matt in Wisconsin joining us now? Is this Matt Lafleura.

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Speaker 2: Are you calling to hand in your resignator letter? Matt

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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, you're on Fox Sports Radio. First of all,

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Speaker 2: are you a Packers fan? Because I know it's not

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00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: always I assume, But you know what they say about assuming?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Can I just do a deep sigh and that will

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Speaker 10: answer your question?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 10: All I can say is wow, the way they started

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00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 10: in the second half, the three three and outs, whether

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Speaker 10: you were a Packer fan or a Bears fan, you

719
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 10: had to be saying, here we go again. Obviously one

720
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Speaker 10: for the good, one for the bad. But two questions

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Speaker 10: I have for you, guys, who can you put the

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Speaker 10: blame on it for tonight's loss, for tonight's total collapse?

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Speaker 10: And number two, can you realistically have an argument for

724
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Speaker 10: keeping laflor and half Lee?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, Matt in Wisconsin, we appreciate

726
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: the call. J Mart, you seem to be more passionate

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00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: about Matt Lafleur his job. Now listen if it happens again.

728
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: The last four years one playoff win, missed the playoffs

729
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Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers. His final year blows a twenty one

730
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Speaker 2: to three halftime lead. As Matt in Wisconsin just told us,

731
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: three straight three and outs to start the second half

732
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: really kind of doomed him because the Bears removing the

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00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: ball the entire second half.

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Speaker 4: What is so?

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Speaker 2: What is your take? Is there I mean, you can

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Speaker 2: justify him coming back. I think it's also worth noting

737
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: this to j mart and I know you know, but

738
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: just for the audience. Lost four straight coming into coming

739
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. Ironically, their last win was against the

740
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Bears a few weeks ago, and even that game was

741
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: a game where they had to rally to win. So

742
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: is it the late season you know, collapse and there

743
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: were some injuries involved, but is it the late season collapses,

744
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: the collapse tonight? Is it the totality of everything? What

745
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: makes you say what you say about Matt Lafleur's future.

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Speaker 4: I just I mean, he's been there for a very

747
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 4: long time, and I think he's been a very good coach.

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Speaker 4: But in an NFL where John Harwauugh can lose his job,

749
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: attlafora can lose his job, And I think that's I

750
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: think that's really it. And if they believe in the players,

751
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: if the front office, if the ownership of the team,

752
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 4: if they believe in the players on the field, then

753
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: who is the problem here? Like what would cause this?

754
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: And what he said about Halfley? What the caller said

755
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Speaker 4: about Halfley. Halfley is like odds on favorite for a

756
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 4: head coaching job in this cycle, and I imagine that's

757
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: probably not necessarily going to change because of this football game.

758
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: I just think, look, somebody's got to be scapegoated here.

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Speaker 4: And you already said Jordan Love played pretty well. He

760
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 4: didn't have a great third quarter, but he played better

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00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: more tonight than he didn't. So I look at that

762
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, something, some shoe's gonna have to

763
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: drop here, and we've already gone through some of the

764
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 4: other shoes dropping in the past for this team. I

765
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: just think this is the end of the road. I

766
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: think he's gonna get another chance. And I'm not saying

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00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 4: he's a bad football coach. I'm just saying we've seen

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Speaker 4: a lot of talented guys lose gigs for less than this,

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Speaker 4: and I just think this is the kind of loss

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Speaker 4: where when you're up twenty one three and that team

771
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: looks like they're falling apart around you, and you find

772
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Speaker 4: a way to lose that. I just don't know what

773
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: you do in that case other than say, all right,

774
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: we got to go in a different direction. We don't

775
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: want to be the next Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, And I'll tell you what.

777
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: We'll reset at the top of the next hour with

778
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Speaker 2: the Matt Lafleur conversation, we'll get to a couple more

779
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: calls really quick. Do you think we got to give

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00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: some credit to the Chicago Bears here again to your

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00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: point twenty five fourth quarter points. And we mentioned obviously

782
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 2: the night that Jordan Love had Caleb Williams three hundred

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00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: and sixty sixty one yards passing two touchdowns including one late,

784
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: two interceptions as well, but Bears win, Bears survive quick

785
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: thoughts obviously before we come back and reset this year

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Speaker 2: at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just that's just an impressive It's just been

788
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: a crazy season for Chicago. Like there have been moments

789
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: where you're just like, man, they're just not all there yet.

790
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 4: They're certainly not on defense. But in the third quarter,

791
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: I did think they got after green Bay. Green Bay

792
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 4: got a little conservative. And this is the kind of thing,

793
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Speaker 4: like Matt Lafuur was an offensive mind, he was an

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. I didn't think the play calling, especially in

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00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: that third quarter, was very good, and then in the

796
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: fourth quarter as it tightened up, even though Love was

797
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 4: making plays. You can't blame everything on him, certainly, I

798
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Speaker 4: just felt like Lafleur has had moments like this in

799
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Speaker 4: the playoffs where it just feels like it the moment

800
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 4: has been too big for him, And I think that's

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00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 4: your biggest problem.

802
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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers fall thirty one to twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Again.

804
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Speaker 2: They were up twenty one to three in the going

805
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Speaker 2: into the half. Chicago Bears rally to win. We'll have

806
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: plenty more coverage, plenty more of your calls. Erratorris, Jason

807
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: Martin taking you till two am Eastern Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, hour two towards Mark, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Phone

812
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: line are jammed up, and it is because two playoff

813
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: games are complete. You can't ask for much of a

814
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: better day of NFL football.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'll be transparent. First one was awesome Rams rally.

816
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford touchdown pass to Kolbe Parkinson with thirty eight

817
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: seconds left, as the saga just told you against the

818
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: Rams the win game two, j Mark, we thought was

819
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: looking a little bit like Indiana Oregon last night, Like

820
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: maybe we just turned this one off and start getting

821
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Speaker 2: ready for Sunday. The Chicago Bears, down twenty one to three,

822
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: rally to win thirty one to twenty seven. They were

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Speaker 2: down thirty one sixteen by the way, late in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. A Caleb Williams touchdown pass to DJ Moore

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Speaker 2: with a little over a minute to go gives them

826
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Speaker 2: the win. And I will note this as well seventh win.

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Speaker 2: As Disager told us earlier, seventh win by the Bears

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Speaker 2: trailing in the final two minutes. I think I said

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Speaker 2: it was about a minute ago when the DJ Moore

830
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: touchdown pass happened. It was a minute forty three left,

831
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Speaker 2: But the Bears win. If you want to talk Bears

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00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: for a second, that's fine, j Mart. But I do

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00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: think we do have to circle back to the Matt

834
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: Lafleur conversation. Ye, because with the Green Bay Packers losing,

835
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Speaker 2: they lose a bunch of games straight to end the year.

836
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Let me make sure that I have this stat correctly.

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Speaker 2: They lost four straight even heading into the playoffs. They

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Speaker 2: lose on Saturday night. They have now won one playoff

839
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Speaker 2: game over the last four seasons. They lost, oh, by

840
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: the way, as the number one overall seed a couple

841
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: of years back.

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Speaker 3: Last year they lose to the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: This year they blow a twenty one to three halftime lead,

844
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Speaker 2: and it seems like a conversation worth having about the

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Speaker 2: future of Mattlin Floor in Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: I just I think it's over, man, I'm gonna change.

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Speaker 4: I said better than fifty to fifty. I think he's done.

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Speaker 4: I think that's it. It's not that he's done a

849
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 4: bad job. It's just that it's like the ceiling keeps

850
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: getting hit year after year. You had it with Aaron Rodgers.

851
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 4: You couldn't finish that. You've got it with Jordan Love.

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00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 4: You can't finish this now. Look, they lost Tucker Craft.

853
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 4: It was a huge part of their offense early in

854
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: the season. You lose Michael Parsons after you get him,

855
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: and that obviously is going to harm your defense. All

856
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: those things are true, but every team is going through something,

857
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 4: every team is dealing with something similar, So you usually

858
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: don't get that benefit of the doubt unless it's your

859
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: quarterback that's down. And in this case, you know, Love

860
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: in this game is about as healthy as we've seen.

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00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: You had a healthy Josh Jacobs in this game for

862
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: the first time in weeks and you don't get the

863
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: job done. And I just feel like Packers fans have

864
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: watched now under lafleor the Lions surpassed them and then

865
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 4: the Bears surpassed them.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Vikings were one game away from

867
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: the number one seeds last year too.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget that.

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00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. So during his tenure, all all three

870
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: other teams in the division have at some point or

871
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 4: another supplanted this team, and I just I don't think

872
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 4: that can continue, Like, eventually, you have to do something different.

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00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: And I just feel like the fans are probably at

874
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 4: the end of their rope after this one, because this

875
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: is one where you find a way to lose this one.

876
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, all right now, we're gonna need to

877
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: do something else now because this right here can't continue.

878
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'll be honest, I don't think I

879
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: realized seventh year as a head coach. Yes, so obviously,

880
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: the first two years you make it to back to

881
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: back NFC championship games, okay, but then, as I referenced,

882
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: you'll lose as the number one seed overall seed in

883
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: the nfseed of the San Francisco forty nine ers in

884
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. I think that was our first year

885
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: doing shows together. J Mart twenty twenty two. That was

886
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: obviously Aaron Rodgers last year in Green Bay. You missed

887
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: the playoffs. You get the following year, you get in

888
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 2: as a wild card. You do beat Dallas in Dallas,

889
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 2: and then you get smoked by San Francisco. You lose

890
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: to the Eagles. Last year to open the playoffs, you

891
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: lose to the Bears. And I think here's the other

892
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: thing too, A couple things. One, as you said, you know,

893
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: you just get to a point where it does feel

894
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: like they've hit a ceiling. I would also say this

895
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: is that Jordan Love played about as well as you

896
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: could ask from him, and not only is it not enough,

897
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: but the it's it sounds like a weird, counterintuitive thing

898
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: of Jordan Love played well, but the offense stagnated in

899
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 2: the second half. And I think that's I think that's

900
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: where the frustration comes in. Right if you just lose

901
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: this game thirty one to twenty seven, and it's this

902
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: back and forth thing, you know, down to the wire,

903
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: you lose on the road. Those things happen. But when

904
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: you have a twenty one to three lead, you're in

905
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: complete control. And then to the point that our caler

906
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: Matt in the last hour said, is that you go

907
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: three straight three and outs to open the second half.

908
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: Chicago's moving the ball will I know you can't really

909
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: blame the kicker for the situation, but at the same time,

910
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: the kind of can that's I was gonna say, those

911
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: are little things in coaching that become big things when

912
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: things are going sideways.

913
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 4: You know, well, look, in this case, he missed two

914
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: field goals and an extra point. Okay, he missed two

915
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: field goals in the fourth quarter and an extra point.

916
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: I believe that would be the only saving grace. If

917
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: you're Green Bay and you want to talk yourself into

918
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: running all this back and not making some kind of

919
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: a big change, it would be well, look, Lafleura can't

920
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 4: make the kicks. It has to be something like that.

921
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: I just don't think that's gonna be enough. I think

922
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: Green Bay fans, which are unique because of the ownership

923
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: situation and all of that, I feel like they're gonna

924
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 4: want answers, and the only real answer is we need

925
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: a new voice. I think Lafuller gets another job and

926
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: probably does a nice job, but I think his time

927
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: in Green Bay. This one just feels again. If Harball

928
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: can lose his job, I feel like that sets the

929
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 4: press that you can move on from Mattless lad Well.

930
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing too, and you mentioned

931
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: it a minute ago. With the rest of the division.

932
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: I know what people will say.

933
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: The Bears seven wins, trailing in the final two minutes.

934
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: There's there will probably be some regression next year, maybe,

935
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: but I think Ben Johnson and Kayleb Williams are gonna

936
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: be around for a while.

937
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: Detroit.

938
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: I listen, we could talk Mike McDaniel at some point

939
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: before the end of the show.

940
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: It looks like he's gonna be the OC.

941
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: I think we probably get a better overall performance from

942
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: Detroit next year and Minnesota. Like for all of the

943
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: up and down stuff, they finished nine and eight, they

944
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: won five straight to end the year. Now we know

945
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation is a little bit weird, but I

946
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: just bring it up because like, this is one of

947
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: those things that could have a carryover effect. This is

948
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: not the AFC South, Like this is a division where

949
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, you start slow whatever, all of a sudden

950
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: you completely fall off the maps.

951
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: I think that's the other variable.

952
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: Two is the division is tough, and if you just

953
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: run it back and expect things to be different, I

954
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: think it's a tough ask.

955
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 3: I think it's a tough ask.

956
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, again, I think I think you have the

957
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: excuse right now to say we need a new voice

958
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: in this room, and that that to be is going

959
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 4: to be enough for them to make this change. I don't.

960
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: I said by Monday. Maybe that's too soon. I don't know.

961
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: I just don't feel like they're gonna let this dangle

962
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: for very long, especially if they think they might have

963
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: a chance at Harball and they see him as an answer.

964
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

965
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: We'll get some more John Harbaugh and a second more

966
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: coaching carousel.

967
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: Ian, we got a bunch of calls. Yeah, let's run

968
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: through some calls. Let's run through some calls here, So

969
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: let's get to uh.

970
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this Ian is is uh?

971
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: Jerome and Charleston still on he waiting patiently. I know

972
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: that's what I want to get.

973
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: Jerome and Charleston, You're on Fox Sports Radio with Aeron

974
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin. What do you got on a thrilling

975
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: Bears win or depending on how you look at it,

976
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: a crushing packers loss.

977
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 6: Look, he only got that job because he's a pretty

978
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 6: boy and he knows how to talk to talk. But

979
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 6: you know what, when when the when the rubber meets

980
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 6: the road, when the when it's time to bring the

981
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 6: bring the trophy home, he's less than desirable. Okay, he

982
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 6: definitely get fired. There ain't no way that whoever's running

983
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 6: the package front of that is going to try to

984
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 6: sell bringing him back. There ain't nobody gonna show it

985
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 6: to the people, agree bit, because they're not that dumb.

986
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 6: All right, there's no way he keeps this job. I'm

987
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 6: surprised you left at this long. I've awaitness what this

988
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 6: guy's he's sent us two twenty nineteen. Yep, man, he's

989
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 6: gotten a long these boy, but hey, his time's up.

990
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 6: He's a pretty boy. He just like that guy arguing

991
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 6: that damn landing guy, oh boy five or whatever. Oh

992
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 6: pretty hey man, pretty well gets your job again. You

993
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 6: got to prove yourself, and when you don't prove it,

994
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 6: even when you're pretty, you're gone. That's what's gonna happen.

995
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 6: They're definitely gonna fly him and Jordan love fulrad to

996
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 6: make way too much mind to play like this, twenty

997
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 6: one to Chuck one.

998
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: One to six at the half.

999
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: Jerome, thank you for the impassioned call Matt Lafleur too

1000
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: pretty to be an NFL head coach. Now I think, listen,

1001
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of points. And by the

1002
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: way I keep saying one playoff win in the last

1003
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: four years, it's really one playoff win in the last

1004
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: five years, so that's worth noting as well. And I

1005
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: do think to Jerome's point, I mean, you know, listen,

1006
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: you're gifted Aaron Rodgers. Now, to his credit, let's give

1007
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: him a little bit of credit, because you know, Aaron

1008
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: Rodgers looked like he was on a decline and wins

1009
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: back to back MVPs under Matt Lafleur's watch.

1010
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 3: But that thing ends. You get Jordan Love, you had,

1011
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, four years to develop them.

1012
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 11: You know.

1013
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: I actually I have been talked into Matt Lafleur probably

1014
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: should not be back because thank you you and Jerome,

1015
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: you just sold me on the facts. Jerome said he

1016
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: was too pretty, and I agree with both of you.

1017
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: So no, I don't know if I agree with your own,

1018
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: but I do think there's something to the definition of

1019
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results.

1020
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: And listen, you keep mentioning John Harbaugh, this has been

1021
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: in the conversation with Mike Tom. And obviously we think

1022
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: Mike Tom was gonna survive whatever. But it's like, how

1023
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: many times in a row do you do the same

1024
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: exact thing over and over and get, you know, wiggle

1025
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: room to keep coming back.

1026
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: And so you're talking about one.

1027
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: Playoff win in five years for the Green Bay Packers,

1028
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: and you know, every every situation, every circumstance is a

1029
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: little bit different, right is that? You know, I'm sure

1030
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: there's plenty of organizations that would love to go to

1031
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs four to five years, but when you keep

1032
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 2: getting there and not having success, and then the manner

1033
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: in which they lost today, as Jerome just said, the

1034
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: Packers trail twenty one to three. They were ahead twenty

1035
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: one to three at a half, three straight three it

1036
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: outs to start the second half. And here's the other

1037
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: crazy part too. It's not like the Bears played lights

1038
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: out and were perfect No. Two of six. On fourth down,

1039
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: there was a Caleb William interception in the red zone.

1040
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: You were gifted the ball deep in your own territory

1041
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: by Ben Johnson. It's not like the Bears just played

1042
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: the game of their careers. You know, we were waiting

1043
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: on postgame sound leads in the back cutting it up.

1044
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: But I'm sure there's probably a piece of sou don't know.

1045
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: If Ben Johnson said we didn't play anywhere close to

1046
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: our best game, the Bears still get to win.

1047
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 8: Now.

1048
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 4: Look, man, it felt to me like the Bears were

1049
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: one touchdown away in the third quarter from packing it in.

1050
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 4: It felt like it was I mean, it was just

1051
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: completely in control for Green Bay. All they had to

1052
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 4: do was closed the casket and they could not do it.

1053
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: And a lot of that has to be on the

1054
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 4: coaching and the play calling, and in that case, again,

1055
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: I just I think Lafleur, I think the buck is

1056
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: gonna have to stop with him this song.

1057
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers fall twenty seven to twenty one, or

1058
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: excuse me, thirty one twenty seven. I'm getting my numbers

1059
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: mixed up here, tell you what, Ian, Let's get to

1060
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: one more call. Do we still have Kyle and Vegas

1061
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: on with us? Yes, Sir Kyle and Vegas, You're on

1062
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Aeron towards Jason Martin. The Chicago Bears

1063
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: rally to beat the Green Bay Packers thirty one to

1064
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 2: twenty seven.

1065
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: Cal take it.

1066
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 12: Away, if I may, you go down baby and listen there. Honestly, guys,

1067
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 12: there was five pivotal plays in that game that changed

1068
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 12: the outcome. We'll say the mitsfield goal was won. The

1069
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 12: time out by Lafloor on that thing series really changed.

1070
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 12: That really changed the driving method. You had, the false

1071
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 12: start which gave you.

1072
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 13: Back, or the DLA game that pushed you back into

1073
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 13: that that position, the interception by Caleb. It was a

1074
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 13: night where literally both both the football guys on each

1075
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 13: side was like, Hey, we're gonna.

1076
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 14: Give this to you. Oh, you didn't do nothing with it.

1077
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 14: Oh we're gonna give this to you. But you didn't

1078
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 14: do nothing with it. The Bears didn't play a sound

1079
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 14: defensive game. They went after, They went after Ky Regard

1080
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 14: all night. They could not make that work. The Bears

1081
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 14: found the way. They couldn't stop Lovelin on the other side.

1082
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 14: So at the end of the game, I woked up

1083
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 14: at the half life here we go again, twenty one

1084
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 14: to three, and by the end of the game, first

1085
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 14: off great broacout to Amazon. Great game finished off very well.

1086
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 14: Lafoor is going to be out of there. I don't care,

1087
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 14: cheese greater. Let's go Bears another season.

1088
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 10: You guys have a good night.

1089
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 4: That was Kyle and Vegas that he's feeling it.

1090
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Speaker 3: He's feeling I'll tell you what.

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00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: We got one more caller on the line, Trey in

1092
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: Texas here on Fox Sports Radio. Trey, you're in Texas

1093
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: Bears fan, Packers fan or impartial and just enjoyed the game.

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00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 6: I'm a Packers fan.

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00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 3: Oh boy, sound Kyle the Bears fan. I'll be honest.

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00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 11: No, I'm a Packers fan from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. But now

1097
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 11: I'm really disappointed because, you know, for so many years

1098
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 11: Green Bay has been the standard in the NFC North,

1099
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 11: and for the game to be as it was, it's

1100
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 11: very disappointing. But you know, it's funny because I've been

1101
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 11: listening to the Odd couple earlier in the week, and

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 11: you know they were talking about, you know, coaches being

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00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 11: fired like Sean McDermot or even John Harball as far

1104
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 11: as he's going to get fired in the playoffs or

1105
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 11: after the playoffs. And you know, I was as crazy

1106
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 11: to think that you know, Matt Lafour was even on

1107
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 11: that chocolate block, but it's like not that I've seen it,

1108
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 11: And you know, going back to the history and seeing

1109
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 11: everything as far as how he's been playing in the

1110
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 11: playoffs with the team he's had, it's like, you know what,

1111
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 11: I do believe it is time to move on from

1112
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 11: him because you know what, we're only going to get

1113
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 11: as far as what we have gotten with him, and

1114
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 11: I do believe he has underachieved, especially with the play calling.

1115
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 11: And it's interesting because it almost seems to this it's

1116
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 11: almost like a Mike McCarthy type of coaching. Man. It's like,

1117
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 11: we would play good in the first half and it's like, awesome,

1118
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 11: we can't play great in the second half. It's like

1119
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 11: what's going on? And I just feel like, yeah, we

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00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 11: need a new voice in green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, well that is Trey and Texas. And you know,

1122
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: thank you for the call, Trey. So again, Jay Marty,

1123
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: you've talked me into this. I think when you're talking

1124
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: about the Green Bay Packers, the success that they have

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00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: had over the last basically thirty years, going back to

1126
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 2: the Brett Favre era, when you're talking about one playoff

1127
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: win in the last five seasons with a roster that

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00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: is now everybody's in their prime, right, because it was

1129
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: the weird transition of you have Aaron Rodgers, but he's

1130
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: on the back end, but you have these young receivers

1131
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: and how does it all fit and Jordan Love's kind

1132
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: of sitting waiting in the wings. These guys are in

1133
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: the heart of their prime and for what to have

1134
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 2: one playoff win in the last five years.

1135
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the standard for Packers fans.

1136
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just not good enough. I mean, again, you

1137
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 4: hate to call for somebody's job, and you don't want

1138
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: to be a guy that has the rash take as

1139
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 4: soon as something like this happens. But I just think

1140
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: this is just this is going to be the last straw.

1141
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 4: It's not like this is one thing this has been building.

1142
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 4: It's like, eventually, man, eventually you've got to win one

1143
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: of these and to lose this one this way to

1144
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: another team in the division that is now you know,

1145
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: largely kind of surpassed you. Eventually you're gonna have to

1146
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: make some kind of a move there. And I just

1147
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 4: I feel like it's just the end of the road

1148
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: for him again. I think he will get another opportunity

1149
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 4: because I think he can coach. But at the same time,

1150
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 4: I think sometimes you just look at it and you say,

1151
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: maybe we've gone about as far with this guy as

1152
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 4: we can and some guys, some guys can get you

1153
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 4: to the precipice, but they can't get you across the

1154
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 4: finish line, which could be something we're talking about a

1155
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: little bit later in regards to another head coach in

1156
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: the league. But when you look at Matt Leafleur, it's

1157
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: like he's done a lot of really good things there,

1158
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: but he hasn't exactly ever coached a team that didn't

1159
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 4: have a loaded roster or have something about it that

1160
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 4: made it special. Like what is Matt Lafleur If he's

1161
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 4: been in Cleveland the entire time, for example, I think

1162
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 4: that's what it is. It's like, is he good or

1163
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: has he been around good? And I think that eventually,

1164
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: when you're around good and you continue to just not

1165
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: get it done, that eventually makes the question more like, well,

1166
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: he's not good enough even with this. So we got

1167
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: to move on.

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: Two quick thoughts to put a bow on this is

1169
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 2: that one. I think there are two things that hurt

1170
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: his cause as well. One four straight losses to close

1171
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: the regular season. I understand the r injuries. I understand

1172
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: you know, you played some pretty good competition, still no

1173
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: momentum going into the playoffs, and then two. As I

1174
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 2: said a second ago, it's not as though the bead

1175
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: like in some ways, I think like twenty eight to

1176
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: ten is better than third. Do you one to twenty

1177
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: seven if the Bears were just lights out and everything

1178
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: went right and tipped past it. But again, I hate

1179
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: to keep reiterating the same stats, but two of six

1180
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: on fourth down a Caleb Williams interception deep in their

1181
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: own territory, an interception excuse me, in the red zone,

1182
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: a fourth down attempt by the Bears deep in the

1183
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: Packers territory, basically gifting them seven points. Yeah, no sympathy

1184
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: for Matt lafor if this is in fact it, we'll

1185
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: probably find out here soon because obviously the big candidates

1186
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: are available, and the Packers, if they want to go

1187
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: after those big candidates, will have to move quickly. The

1188
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: story of the day, by the way, John Harbaugh saying

1189
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: he only plans to interview with three to four teams

1190
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: and make a decision from there. Fox Sports Radio ertors

1191
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1192
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: We will continue the conversation on Bears Packers, but we

1193
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: also got to get to a busy couple nights in

1194
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: the world of college football. College football semis are done,

1195
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: Championship game is set, and we got plenty to react

1196
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: to over the last two nights. Er towards Jay Smart,

1197
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aer

1198
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: towards j Smart, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Yes,

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01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: we are live one twenty eight Eastern Time, three games tomorrow.

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: For the best pregame show every weekend, be sure to

1201
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 2: tune into Fox Sports Radio Countdown to Kickoff, presented by

1202
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning. We catch

1203
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: it down all the biggest games for three hours right

1204
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: up until kickoff. For all the best plays and up

1205
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,640
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1206
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,320
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1207
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: here on iHeartRadio and the iHeartRadio app. Two thrilling playoff games.

1208
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 3: Here to talk about it all.

1209
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: Let's get it over to Steve de Sager with what

1210
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: is trending at twelve, twenty eight Eastern time.

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Speaker 9: Ay truly incredible. Bears come back in Chicago to eliminate

1212
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 9: Green Bay and their wild card playoff game thirty one

1213
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 9: to twenty seven. So what is the win loss record

1214
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 9: of a playoff team when they're up by fifteen or

1215
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 9: more to start the fourth quarter. The answer is such

1216
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 9: teams are now one seventy two and four. That includes

1217
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 9: the Falcons blowing the big lead in the Super Bowl

1218
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 9: to the Patriots and losing in overtime astoundingly. Coach Ben

1219
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 9: Johnson of the Bears said during training camp this year,

1220
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 9: he made sure to show his Chicago team the video

1221
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 9: of that Super Bowl game.

1222
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 15: We had shown the film of the Atlanta and New

1223
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 15: England game and the Super Bowl from was that twenty sixteen?

1224
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 15: I can't remember what year that was, but we have

1225
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 15: two players on our roster that were part of both

1226
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 15: those teams. You know, Grady was with Atlanta and Joe

1227
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 15: Toney was with New England, and it was just great

1228
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 15: to get perspective from both of those players.

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Speaker 9: Referring to Tooney and Grady Jarrett and now his Chicago

1230
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 9: team this season, including tonight, has seven wins after trailing

1231
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 9: in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter. The

1232
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 9: Bears team before him last year only had five wins

1233
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,959
Speaker 9: total for the whole season. So Caleb Williams with these

1234
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 9: seven fourth quarter comebacks, including tonight, that's the most in

1235
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 9: any season by a quarterback under the age of twenty

1236
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 9: five in the history of the NFL, and the Chicago

1237
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 9: Bears have to say the least, a very long history.

1238
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 9: Going back to the first ever NFL postseason in the

1239
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 9: nineteen thirty the Chicago Bears had never won a playoff

1240
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 9: game when trailing by double digits at any point, according

1241
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 9: to Associated Press, until tonight's game. They were down to

1242
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 9: the Packers twenty one to three at the half, down

1243
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 9: twenty one to six early in the fourth quarter, and

1244
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 9: then scored twenty five points in the final quarter to

1245
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 9: eliminate Green Bay thirty one to twenty seven. Caleb Williams

1246
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 9: two touchdown passes, two interceptions, three hundred and sixty one.

1247
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: Yards through the air.

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 9: Earlier, the Rams opened the postseason with a narrow win

1249
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 9: at Carolina thanks to a touchdown pass in the final

1250
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 9: minute thirty four thirty one at that final score and yes,

1251
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 9: three more games coming up Sunday, including on Fox TV

1252
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 9: Philadelphia hosting the forty nine Ers. After a lot of

1253
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 9: rain in Philly today, no rain in the forecast there

1254
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 9: for Sunday, but due to be very windy more than

1255
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 9: Chicago was tonight about forty degrees in Philadelphia.

1256
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 4: Tomorrow there is a.

1257
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 9: Monday night game. The Texans, who won nine straight, will

1258
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 9: be at Pittsburgh. By the way, Matthew Stafford was voted

1259
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 9: the All Pro quarterback ahead of Drake May.

1260
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 4: Today.

1261
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Speaker 3: In the NBA's late.

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Speaker 9: Game, Charlotte won one fifty to ninety five at Utah.

1263
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 9: The Hornets were up forty five twelve late in the

1264
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 9: first quarter and late second quarter Charlotte led seventy four

1265
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 9: to twenty eight. Clippers won at Detroit seventy eight seventy two.

1266
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 9: Spurs won at Boston one hundred to ninety five. College

1267
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 9: hoops number nine BYU has won at Utah eighty nine

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01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 9: eighty four. Wisconsin today pulled off the upset at number

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01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 9: two Michigan ninety one eighty eight. Texas got to win

1270
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 9: tonight at number thirteen Alabama ninety two eighty eight. NHL

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01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 9: Boston will on ten to two over the Rangers. Tampa

1272
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 9: Bay a seven to winner at Philadelphia, and the Cubs

1273
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 9: are signing third baseman Alex Bragman five years, one hundred

1274
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 9: and seventy five million dollars and no opt outs in

1275
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 9: the contract.

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01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Saga, Fox

1277
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday An towards Jayson Martin, broadcasting

1278
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We will revisit

1279
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: the Thriller in Chicago in just a few minutes, but

1280
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: jaymart want to spend half a second. I'm talking about

1281
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: the two college football playoffs semi finals. We obviously, uh

1282
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: you know, we're basically the show of record in college football.

1283
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: So much going on on these Saturday nights, and we

1284
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 2: do have a national championship game, just as we all

1285
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: predicted in the preseason. It will be Indiana versus Miami.

1286
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: Miami the thirty one twenty seven win on Thursday night,

1287
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 2: obviously coming down to the final play Trinidad Chambliss incomplete pass,

1288
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: semi controversial call. I was fine with them holding the FLA.

1289
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: You can share your thoughts there. And then Indiana just

1290
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: doing pure Indiana things on Friday night, fifty six to

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01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: twenty two is the final score, Jamart, I know you're

1292
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: not on social media. Indiana is now so good that

1293
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: basically there was just essentially a rumor floating around social

1294
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: media today that they must be pulling a Connor Stallions

1295
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: and stealing signs because nobody.

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Speaker 3: Can be this good.

1297
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: Uh, But Indiana and Miami are playing for a national

1298
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: championship game. I think there's a couple of very interesting

1299
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: stories out of these semi finals. But I'm gonna give

1300
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: you the floor to take it wherever you want. After

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01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: the two semi finals, the last two nights.

1302
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even know what to say other

1303
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 4: than they're just it's not that they're winning, it's how

1304
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: they're winning, right, It's just they're demoralizing teams. I've got this.

1305
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to bring it up in my phone

1306
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 4: because I saw this and it just absolutely blew my mind. Okay,

1307
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 4: I think it's nope, all right, okay, looking forward either way,

1308
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 4: Indiana just they demoralize and just mall teams in a

1309
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 4: way that you just shouldn't, right, Like this is not

1310
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 4: something they okay here it is all right. In twenty

1311
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: twenty four, last year's Indiana team, they won games by

1312
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: seventy four, thirty eight, thirty seven, forty nine, and sixty

1313
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 4: six points. This year, they won regular season games by

1314
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 4: forty seven, seventy three, fifty three, fifty forty five, and

1315
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 4: fifty three points. That fifty three point win was against

1316
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 4: an Illinois team that was ranked in the top ten

1317
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 4: when they played them and finished nine to four. They're

1318
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 4: not just beating teams, they're smoking them in a way

1319
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 4: that you don't see outside of women's basketball. Like it

1320
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 4: is amazing watching that Oregon game. Now, look, Dante Moore

1321
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 4: had one of the most unlucky and just nasty knights

1322
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 4: a quarterback can possibly have. First play is a pick six,

1323
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 4: Then he has the fumble where he's trying to throw

1324
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 4: the ball and he hits his own guy with his

1325
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 4: arm while he's trying to follow through. And then on

1326
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 4: the third when somebody just takes his head off and

1327
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 4: he loses it. They give Mendoza in company short fields

1328
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 4: make it easy. Mendoza has five touchdowns, but he doesn't

1329
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 4: throw for two hundred yards and his completion percentage I

1330
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: think is over one hundred percent at this point, Like

1331
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 4: it's it's absolutely preposterous what he is doing. He has

1332
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 4: I think twice as many touchdowns as or At one

1333
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 4: point in the fourth quarter, he had twice as many

1334
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: touchdowns in a college football playoff as he did in completions.

1335
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: The Connor Stallions thing should just be a feather in

1336
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 4: the cap for Kurt Signetti, because this is one of

1337
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 4: the most impressive and dominant football teams that I have

1338
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: ever watched on both sides of the ball. They're so

1339
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 4: well coached, they never stop coming, they do everything right,

1340
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 4: and I mean Oregon didn't even have a chance Dan

1341
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 4: Lanning win. All of his losses since he's been at

1342
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 4: Oregon have gone to either a team that reached the

1343
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 4: National Championship Game or won the National Championship Game. Last year,

1344
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 4: they got bludgeon by Ohio State. And as bad as

1345
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 4: that was, Aaron, this was worse. This was disgusting. I

1346
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 4: think I even sit that to you in a text.

1347
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: I think this is one of the grossest things I've

1348
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: ever watched. And it was like it was just from

1349
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 4: word go, you knew who was gonna win this game.

1350
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 4: I wanted to see a kickoff, and after watching for

1351
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 4: about five minutes, You're like, oh, okay, well, we may

1352
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 4: not have to watch this one to the end because

1353
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: they're they're literally just taking teams out so early that

1354
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 4: the second half is just not even worse. Seeing.

1355
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're unbelievable. They're one of the most complete

1356
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: teams that I've ever seen. I mean, I think and

1357
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: I'm sure that we've talked about this throughout the season.

1358
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: One stands out to me like, I don't even know

1359
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: how you beat them, because they don't beat themselves. That's

1360
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: the crazy part is that you know, great on offense,

1361
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: great on defense, great against the run, great against the pass,

1362
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,919
Speaker 2: great running the football, great against the football.

1363
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 3: But they don't turn the ball over.

1364
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 2: Ever, as you said, for Nanda Indosa, seventeen of twenty

1365
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: passing in that game, basically one of three passes what

1366
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: for a touchdown because he threw five touchdowns in that game.

1367
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: They don't turn the ball over. They force among the

1368
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: most turnovers in college football. Now that's a little deceptive

1369
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: because they've played fifteen games. Nobody for the most part,

1370
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: has played that close. And they don't commit penalties. And

1371
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: so you don't commit penalties, you don't turn the ball over.

1372
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: You have the Heisman Trophy winner at quarterback, you have

1373
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 2: just an excellent fundamental defense. I don't know how you

1374
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: beat him real quick, because again, this is probably a

1375
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: twenty minute conversation that we're gonna have to sneak into

1376
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: five because of whatever. My big takeaway from from the

1377
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: Miami Old Miss game. Listen, you and I were on

1378
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: air filling in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon the

1379
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: night of the Old Miss Georgia game. Unbelievable finish. I

1380
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: didn't know if Ole Miss could continue the momentum, But

1381
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: I do think the big story out of that game

1382
01:09:53,920 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: to me Miami physically dominating Old Miss Miami. You know, listen,

1383
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: and Old Mist, to their credit, was still in the

1384
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: game late, but Miami was just clearly the physically superior

1385
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: team and basically bullied Old Miss the way that no

1386
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: SEC team did all year. This is a thing that

1387
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: has been coming for a while. I think it's official

1388
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 2: the SEC, and you know, there's a couple of reasons

1389
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: why that feel pretty obvious, the NIL stuff whatever. This

1390
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: ain't your This ain't your older brother's SEC. As for

1391
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: the third straight year, no SEC team will be playing

1392
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: for a national championship after Old Miss was eliminated by

1393
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: Miami on Thursday night.

1394
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the SEC is still a really good conference,

1395
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 4: and some are going to overstate that it's now just

1396
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 4: a failure and it's over and all this it's not over,

1397
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 4: but the way that it was is over. We're just

1398
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 4: not going to see that anymore the SEC. Now, this

1399
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 4: is the difference I think. I think going forward, you

1400
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 4: cannot make the argument, or if you do, I think

1401
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 4: you got to push back on this. If somebody makes

1402
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 4: this argument to you, yeah, man, but look at they're

1403
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 4: doing it in the SEC. No, that doesn't work anymore.

1404
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 4: Like this whole we played an SEC schedule, so we're

1405
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: so much better than no, no, no, no, no no, Like

1406
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 4: we can't go there anymore. We just can't. They are

1407
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 4: a very good conference, just like the Big Ten, and

1408
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 4: just like other conferences. This like added sort of padding

1409
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 4: that you give them because they play in the Southeastern Conference. Aaron,

1410
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 4: I think that's done. I think it's over. I don't

1411
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 4: think that that argument holds the water that it once did.

1412
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 4: This is not the death of the SEC, but this

1413
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 4: is the death of the SEC the way that we

1414
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 4: have come to understand and watch it. And I do

1415
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 4: think Danil and the transfer portal and all that plays

1416
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 4: a role, but in a big role. Either way, it

1417
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. It just means that the SEC and the

1418
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 4: playing field and everything else, everything has shifted, and it

1419
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 4: has not shifted necessarily in their favor.

1420
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the one thing.

1421
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't think we ever talked about it during the year,

1422
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: but I even pushed back a little bit because for

1423
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: years it was just the SEC is undisputed best conference,

1424
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 2: no doubt, whatever, and then for the last you know,

1425
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: year or so, it's been Okay, you know, Michigan won

1426
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: a title, then Ohio State won a title.

1427
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the Big.

1428
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: Ten has caught the SEC at the top, but the

1429
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: middle in the bottom, the week to week is so tough.

1430
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: And I remember saying in the middle of the year,

1431
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second, now, Florida is freaking terrible.

1432
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: South Carolina is terrible, Arkansas is terrible, Kentucky is terrible.

1433
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 3: And I didn't under I even thought.

1434
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: This year that narrative of well, I mean, but it's

1435
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: still clearly better in the middle in the bottom, it's like, no,

1436
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: it really wasn't. And as a matter of fact, and listen,

1437
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and say with revisionist history

1438
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 2: that teams that made the playoffs shouldn't have been in.

1439
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: They won the games on the schedule, But you can

1440
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: go back and look at who Texas A and M

1441
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: beat and say, you know, maybe they weren't as good.

1442
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: They quite literally got virtually every team in the bottom

1443
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: half of the standings, and again, the bottom of the

1444
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: SEC was bad.

1445
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: This year.

1446
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: Old Miss took advantage of that too, not quite as much.

1447
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to take away from Old Miss, which

1448
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: did win at Oklahoma. They got a win that justified

1449
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 2: them being in. So I'm not saying with revisionous history,

1450
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: these teams shouldn't have been in.

1451
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 4: You mean at Georgia. Oh you mean you're talking about

1452
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 4: the regular season.

1453
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the regular season. And all I'm saying is

1454
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here with revisionist history and say

1455
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have been in. I didn't say it the

1456
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: night before the playoff bracket was announced, But what I

1457
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: will say is we can now acknowledge that some of

1458
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: those teams beat up on some pretty crappy competition at

1459
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: the bottom of the league. And you know, we could

1460
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: put a ball on this. But to your point, I

1461
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: just think we can't go into next year and just

1462
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: put you know, nine SEC teams in the top twenty

1463
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: and then when they all beat you to all that

1464
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: means that no. So we'll see what happens going forward,

1465
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: but we can put a ball on this. But I

1466
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: just it's not what that you.

1467
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 4: Used to give them extra credit on the test because

1468
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 4: they played in the SEC. I just think that's over.

1469
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 4: I think that I even think the committee going forward

1470
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 4: is not going to see it the same way. You're

1471
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 4: just not going to get that extra benefit that you

1472
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 4: have and it maybe deservedly so for many of these years, right,

1473
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 4: but you just can't make the argument anymore. Doesn't mean

1474
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 4: there's not some juggernauts and some great teams in the SEC.

1475
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: It does mean that the entirety of that league and

1476
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 4: some of this narrative and the aura surrounding it, it's

1477
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: taken a hit, and I don't know that it's ever

1478
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 4: recovering to the it's certainly never going to recover. I

1479
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 4: don't think to the degree that we at one time

1480
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 4: kind of view the SEC when it was out its.

1481
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: Apex Indiana Miami will play for a national championship. They

1482
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,919
Speaker 2: don't play until a week from Monday.

1483
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that stinks.

1484
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: It stinks if you're looking for glasses half full.

1485
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: We got plenty of time next week to preview that

1486
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: game Indiana Miami Indiana. By the way opening it is

1487
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 2: like a night and a half BOYD favorite showing you

1488
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 2: just how good they've been this year. Fox Sports Radio

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1491
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 2: He'll have his extended update. So much to discuss saga

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Speaker 2: today and plenty more on the two thrilling NFL games.

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Speaker 9: Well, we'll start with the thriller of a fourth quarter

1507
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 9: in Chicago. Bears advance over rival Green Bay thirty one

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01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 9: twenty seven in a wild card game tonight. A lot

1509
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 9: of emotions shown after the win by the new head

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 9: coach of the Bears, Ben Johnson.

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 16: He spoke afterwards, there's probably a little more noise coming

1512
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 16: out of there and building up north to start the week,

1513
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 16: which we heard long and clear, players and coaches alike.

1514
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 15: So this one meant something to us.

1515
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 9: So there two touchdown passes for Caleb Williams after his

1516
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 9: two interceptions three hundred and sixty one yards in the air.

1517
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 9: Astounding because the Bears franchise has been around about one

1518
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 9: hundred years. If Caleb Williams throws two more touchdown passes

1519
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 9: at any point in his Chicago career in the playoffs,

1520
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 9: he will tie for second all time in Bear's history

1521
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 9: with those four touchdown passes.

1522
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's insane.

1523
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 9: Jim McMahon as a Bear had four in the playoffs.

1524
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 9: Rex Grossman had four. Sid Luckman seven is at the

1525
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 9: top of the long list of Bears quarterbacks throwing touchdown

1526
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 9: passes at the playoffs.

1527
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: So if he gets six more between now in retirement,

1528
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: he will be the Bears all time.

1529
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, So if they make a run and he

1530
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 9: throws two in each standing by and the NFL writer

1531
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 9: Ari Murrov makes a good point that with the Packers loss,

1532
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 9: their first round selection in April will be at number

1533
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 9: twenty overall, and it's not their selection because the Micah

1534
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 9: Parsons trade, So the Dallas Cowboys will be selecting twelve

1535
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 9: and twenty in the first round at the moment. But

1536
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 9: the Bears are twelve and six at home, they're seven

1537
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 9: and two, and they win yet another close game again

1538
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 9: after trailing in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter.

1539
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 9: They've won seven different times and the in division games

1540
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 9: this year they were two and four, and that includes

1541
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 9: the two Thrillers late season against the Packers. Packers finished

1542
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 9: nine eight and one and finished with a losing record

1543
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 9: on the road. They lost their last five games played

1544
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,919
Speaker 9: to end this season, and they lost this game despite

1545
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 9: being up twenty one to six at Chicago early in

1546
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 9: the fourth quarter. Kicker Brandon McManus miss two field goal

1547
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 9: attempts and an extra point. The way the Bears usually

1548
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 9: win is not just being good late. It's by running

1549
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 9: the ball, and they really didn't get off the ground

1550
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 9: for most of this game on the ground, pardon. Number

1551
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 9: one rushing team in the NFC are the Chicago Bears,

1552
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 9: and they dominate the turnover the best in the league

1553
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 9: at turnover margin plus twenty two coming in and yet

1554
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 9: they had the early two turnovers in this one. Green

1555
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 9: Bay no turnovers, and still it's the Bears advancing. However,

1556
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 9: linebacker TJ. Edwards did leave with an ankle injury. Bears

1557
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 9: went three for three on field goals, never punted, only

1558
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 9: had two penalties for five yards. Young tight end Colston

1559
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 9: Lovelin was targeted fifteen times. He had eight catches one

1560
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 9: hundred and thirty seven yards. The Rams star wide receiver

1561
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 9: Puka Nakua was targeted eighteen times. He had ten catches

1562
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 9: at Carolina one hundred and eleven yards, two total touchdowns.

1563
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 9: Rams wanted on a TD pass in the final minute

1564
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 9: thirty four to thirty one. The Panthers finished eight to ten.

1565
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 9: Carolinas Jalen Coker did have a career game nine catches

1566
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 9: one hundred thirty four yards in a score. But the

1567
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 9: Rams are now thirteen and five. But yet again, we

1568
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 9: see problems in road games. Specifically, this is a team

1569
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 9: that overall averages thirty points a game, best in the NFL,

1570
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 9: and they got thirty four today. They averaged close to

1571
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 9: four hundred total yards a game, best in the NFL.

1572
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 9: They had over four hundred today. But they blew the

1573
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 9: early season road game at Philadelphia, blew the late season

1574
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 9: road game at Seattle, blew the division title, blew the

1575
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 9: one seed. They're gonna have to continue on the road,

1576
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 9: maybe in Chicago in the near future. We'll see. There

1577
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 9: are still games to be played Tomorrow. That was a

1578
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 9: game at Carolina with four lead changes in the fourth quarter,

1579
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 9: Rams win by three. There are three games on the

1580
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 9: Sunday schedule. One pm Eastern time, Jacksonville, which has won

1581
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 9: eight in a row, host a Buffalo team that has

1582
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 9: the top rushing offense in the league and James Cook

1583
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 9: had sixteen hundred yards on the ground this year. Then

1584
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 9: on Fox TV Philadelphia at four to thirty Eastern time,

1585
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 9: host San Francisco. By the way, the forty nine Ers

1586
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 9: had sax or interceptions on just four percent of opponents

1587
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 9: pass attempts. They don't get pressure. They've had a ton

1588
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 9: of injuries, of course as well, and their turnover margin

1589
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 9: is the worst among any of the playoff teams, a

1590
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 9: minus six for the season. So will the Niners be

1591
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 9: able to stay alive in the postseason?

1592
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 4: Tomorrow?

1593
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 9: Chargers at Patriots on Sunday night. Thank you to Seger,

1594
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 9: appreciate you. This is Fox Sports Radio Errators, Jason Martin.

1595
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 9: It is nearly one am Eastern time. We are taking

1596
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 9: you up till two am Eastern and we still got

1597
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 9: plenty more to get to. More on that Packers Bears thriller,

1598
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 9: plus a look ahead to those Sunday and Monday games.

1599
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 9: One hour left air tours, Jason Martin. This is Fox

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 9: Sports Radio.

1601
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1602
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour three tours mart Fox Sports Radio.

1603
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

1604
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: taking the up till two am Eastern. Bernie Fratto of

1605
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: The Bernie Frado Show follows us.

1606
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 3: Cannot wait.

1607
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: Bernie, as mister NFC North spent years in Detroit, so

1608
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 2: you know he'll have very good stuff on what was

1609
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: an awesome day of NFL football. De Seger just told you.

1610
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: In the early game, the Rams rally to win thirty

1611
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: four to thirty one. A touchdown pass from Matt Stafford

1612
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: to Colby Parkinson with thirty eight seconds left gets the victory.

1613
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: And then there was the late one, which we certainly

1614
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: have to talk about. Final score in Chicago thirty one

1615
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: to twenty seven. Listen, we'll we'll give you a little

1616
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: bit of a setup here, but the bottom line is

1617
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 2: one of the wildest playoff games that you will ever see.

1618
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 2: Bears trailed twenty one to three at the half. They

1619
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: really kind of kept shooting themselves in the foot for

1620
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: about the first forty five minutes of this game. Two

1621
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 2: of six sound third down in the first half. They

1622
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 2: went for a deep in their own territory on fourth down,

1623
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: did not convert, set up a Packers touchdown score. In

1624
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 2: the second half, there was a play in the red

1625
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: zone on fourth down that was not that was actually intercepted.

1626
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: So it wasn't as though the Bears were lights out

1627
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: all night, but they rallied in the fourth quarter under

1628
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 2: two minutes to go. They were at the time trailing

1629
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four. And this is what it

1630
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: sounded like.

1631
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 17: Caleb and a gun swipped to his left, snap back

1632
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 17: four man rush Caleb with a double moolf drundown half

1633
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 17: sounded like DJ bards one the five pen zones touchdown

1634
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 17: touchdown Bears, They've taken the lead on the Packers FO

1635
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 17: one forty three to go twenty five yards, the same

1636
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 17: connection week sixteen walk off.

1637
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: When this connection huh three pointly Wow, that was courtesy

1638
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 3: the Bears radio network.

1639
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: A twenty five yard touchdown as from DJ Moore from

1640
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: two DJ Moore from Caleb Williams gives the Bears a

1641
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty seven lead. As you said earlier,

1642
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: J mart I could not believe it when he told

1643
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: me this in hour one, twenty five points in the

1644
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Disager gave us the stat earlier in the show,

1645
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: the seventh win by the Bears this season. Trailing in

1646
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:30,879
Speaker 2: the final two minutes, the Bears win, the Bears advance.

1647
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: Unbelievable game, unbelievable finish, of course, unless you're a Packers fan.

1648
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I saw a comment on a forum after the

1649
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 4: game has said, Hey, good news Packers fans is when

1650
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 4: you wake up tomorrow, it's gonna be worse. Yeah, that's tough.

1651
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur is seventy six forty Well, he was entering

1652
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 4: the game seventy six to forty and one. Now he's

1653
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 4: seventy six forty one and one. Ian Rappaport of the

1654
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 4: NF Network this morning, well, I guess now. Saturday morning

1655
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 4: put out a report around nine am somewhere in that

1656
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 4: neighborhood that basically said that whenever Green Bay season ended,

1657
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 4: which they hoped would be later rather than sooner, everyone

1658
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 4: involved was going to meet, we sit down, and they

1659
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 4: were going to hammer out an extension for Matt Lafor's contract.

1660
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I found that during the last commercial break.

1661
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 4: Can a loss changed that? And my answer is yes,

1662
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 4: I said this earlier. If you missed any part of

1663
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 4: what we did, and of course we weren't doing live

1664
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 4: play by play, but it's kind of hard to host

1665
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: the live show with all that was going on, so

1666
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 4: we were keeping everybody up to date. Try not to

1667
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 4: be too rash in the judgment, but I just think

1668
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: this is he's been there as long as he as

1669
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 4: he has, and they have not had the success in

1670
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 4: the postseason, and they're coming off losing all these games

1671
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 4: in a row to end the season, losing four and

1672
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 4: then now of course they lose this one and it's

1673
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 4: too a division rival. I I feel like he's done.

1674
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 4: I think he's coached his last game. And so you

1675
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 4: go from Ian Rappaport saying everybody involved can't wait to

1676
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 4: get this extension in his contract done too. I truly

1677
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 4: believe that they're gonna not only are they not going

1678
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 4: to extend it, I think they're going to extend a

1679
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 4: pink slip and say thank you, best of look in

1680
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 4: your future endeavors. This is the kind of game that

1681
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 4: gets you fired. And McManus goes out there, he misses

1682
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 4: two field goals and he misses an extra point. You

1683
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: end up losing this game by obviously, if you make

1684
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 4: those kicks, that changes a lot in the game. But

1685
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 4: one thing I saw because I went to some Green

1686
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 4: Bay fan sites just to see what their reaction was,

1687
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 4: is like it was Matt Lafleur who didn't go away

1688
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 4: from McManus despite the fact he's been having issues all

1689
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 4: season long. It was Lafleur responsible for some of the

1690
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 4: special teams guys that were there and all this, like

1691
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 4: it just everybody's coming after Lafleur, which is exact exactly

1692
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 4: what I thought was going to happen. And I just

1693
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 4: think that I think that the ownership is gonna have

1694
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 4: a hard time even selling this to themselves. But I

1695
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 4: think it's interesting that you got that report about extending

1696
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 4: his contract in this being mutual, and it's just like,

1697
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 4: I don't think so, man. I think this is the

1698
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 4: game that gets you fired.

1699
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 3: So two things on that one.

1700
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: Obviously, look, you know, stuff changes, And for people who

1701
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: don't have the context, Lafleur has actually been there since

1702
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, which sounds crazy. Obviously opened his run with

1703
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: back to back NFC Championship Game appearances, but in the

1704
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: last five seasons.

1705
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: One playoff win.

1706
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: It was that Wildcard weekend game in Dallas, which you

1707
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 2: considering where Dallas has been, it feels like a million

1708
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: years ago. That was the only one that they have

1709
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: during this stretch. And to me, why I do think

1710
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 2: it needs to be considered is two things. Is One,

1711
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 2: it is the manner in which you lost the game tonight.

1712
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 2: It's not just that you lost to a division rival.

1713
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: You're on the road, I get it. Whatever, if you

1714
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: just lose to a division rival on the road, whatever,

1715
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: a lower seated team, whatever, the issue becomes the fact

1716
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 2: that you were up twenty one to three. You're supposed

1717
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 2: to be this offensive genius. You go three and out

1718
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: on three straight possessions to start the second half, and

1719
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: then everything else, everywhere else goes wrong. Twenty five points

1720
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 2: allowed in the fourth quarter, two missfield goals, a miss pat.

1721
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point it does have to fall

1722
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: on somebody. And that's where I said this an hour

1723
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: two and it sounds weird, but I think in some ways,

1724
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: if you lost twenty one to twenty one to ten

1725
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: or twenty eight to ten and it wasn't even close

1726
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 2: and the Bears just but the manner in which you lost,

1727
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 2: I don't know how anyone could feel good coming back.

1728
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: And then the other part that you brought up to

1729
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: or that we both brought up, j Mart, is that

1730
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 2: lousing those four straight going into the playoffs. Like if

1731
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: you had rallied, if you hit your lull at October

1732
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you were red hot going

1733
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and you had a raw, you know,

1734
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: a bad game on Saturday night in Chicago, that's a

1735
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: lot different than losing five straight games to end the

1736
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: year quite literally well over a month since they last

1737
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 2: celebrated a win. I think that's gonna be a tough

1738
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: pill to swallow.

1739
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: I know it's.

1740
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 2: Complicated there with ownership and who's actually making the calls

1741
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: and whatever. I do think it would be tough to

1742
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: justify bringing him back five straight wins to end the

1743
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: regular to end the season, excuse me, including the postseason

1744
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 2: lost to Chicago on Saturday night and again one postseason

1745
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: win in the last five years.

1746
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 4: So he was asked after the game in his press

1747
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 4: conference about his future. I just found this quote. He said,

1748
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 4: with all due respect to your question, and I guess

1749
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 4: the guy's name was Pete that asked the question, with

1750
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 4: all due respect to your question, Pete, Now's not the

1751
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 4: time for that. I'm just hurting for these guys. I

1752
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 4: can only think about what just happened, and there will

1753
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: be time for that.

1754
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what Jamark producer Lee in the

1755
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: back Actual, we have producer Ian, but Lee in the

1756
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 2: Back did get us that sound. Let's hear Matt Lafleur

1757
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 2: being asked that exact question.

1758
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,440
Speaker 18: Hey, Mat, you got a year left on your contract

1759
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 18: and policy has said he doesn't like plane duck seasons.

1760
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 18: Do you expect me back next season? Have you guys

1761
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 18: already started negotiating that.

1762
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 19: Deal or Yeah, with all due respect to your question, Pete,

1763
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 19: now's not the time for that. I mean, I'm just

1764
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 19: hurting for these guys, you know. I can only think

1765
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 19: about just what just happened, and there will be time

1766
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 19: for that.

1767
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 8: Do you think your team has a confidence that the

1768
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 8: leadership of this organization can.

1769
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 10: Can get more than one to go?

1770
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 19: Yeah, again, with all due respect, Pete, definitely, now's not

1771
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 19: the time.

1772
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 3: That was Matt Lafleur after the games.

1773
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that does not sound like a guy that's about

1774
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 4: to hammer out a mutual extension. Sure, I understand, like

1775
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 4: I understand what he's saying too, like this is not

1776
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 4: really the time to talk about my future. But he

1777
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 4: also knew that question was going to be asked. But

1778
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 4: that response that does not reflect the tenor of Ian

1779
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 4: Rappaport's story, which I think was accurate right up until

1780
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 4: that loss. Because of the way that that went down,

1781
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 4: I think that changed everything for Lafleur's future in Green Bay.

1782
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 3: No, I think there's no doubt about it.

1783
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: And I listen, if they decide to stay, then they

1784
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 2: if you decide, if they decide to keep them, they

1785
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 2: decide to keep them. But I do think there is

1786
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: something to the conversation has to be had because of

1787
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 2: how the season ended, because of the manner in which

1788
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: it did, we should probably give a little bit of

1789
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 2: credit to the Bears here. Chicago bears twenty five points

1790
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Again, like I keep saying, the

1791
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: twenty one to six, they trailed twenty one to six

1792
01:30:59,280 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 2: at the half.

1793
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 3: They trailed twenty seven to sixteen. With under seven minutes.

1794
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 2: To go, Matthew Golded a twenty three yard touchdown catch

1795
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 2: was actually his first catch of the first touchdown catch

1796
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 2: of his rookie season, put the Packers up by two

1797
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 2: scores with six minutes to go. Again, Chicago drives the

1798
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 2: length of the field, gets a touchdown with four eighteen left,

1799
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 2: They get the stop, and then the Dj Moore touchdown

1800
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 2: pass caps a six play, sixty six yard drive in

1801
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 2: a minute eight Unbelievable team, unbelievable season, Ben Johnson, they're

1802
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 2: showing the stat on TV right now as an assistant

1803
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 2: at a head coach. Now seven to two against the

1804
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. But man, oh Man, oh Man, obviously

1805
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 2: we got to figure out some things tomorrow before we

1806
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: figure out who they're playing and all that, but what

1807
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 2: a team, what a season.

1808
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 3: Just unbelievable.

1809
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it really is. I mean, I don't

1810
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 4: think to the point that that we've made earlier in

1811
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 4: other are making You're not going to be doing this

1812
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 4: for years and years and years and years. This is

1813
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,839
Speaker 4: not something that you can replicate throughout your entire coaching

1814
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 4: tenure or if you're Kaylea Williams, you know, as long

1815
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 4: as you play and all this other stuff, but you

1816
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 4: don't have to. You just got to do it this year.

1817
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 4: If you win a chip this year, it doesn't matter.

1818
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 4: So you know, you know, there's the idea of hard

1819
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 4: to kill. Georgia was hard to kill, Oklahoma was hard

1820
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 4: to kill. The Bears are pretty hard to kill. Sure,

1821
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 4: they are pretty hard to kill because the stuff that

1822
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 4: they are pulling off and just if you look at

1823
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 4: the stats and things like that, like these are just

1824
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 4: things that don't happen. The record with teams that had

1825
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 4: the advantage that the Packers did, and just the fourth

1826
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 4: quarter comebacks and the fact that in the last two

1827
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 4: minutes they've done this multiple times. It's just it's it's astonishing.

1828
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 4: But again because of how it went down, the drama

1829
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 4: and just how unprecedented it was to see this. That

1830
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 4: to me, again, that's actually the worst possible reality for

1831
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur, which you've already made that point. It's exactly right.

1832
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 4: It just this was a game that you should have won,

1833
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,440
Speaker 4: that you had in hand, and you could not finish,

1834
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 4: and that to me is just deathnell material.

1835
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Before we start previewing the Sunday and Monday games, any

1836
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: quick takeaways or extended takeaways on the Rams winning thirty

1837
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 2: four to thirty one in Carolina. Again, Matthew Stafford touchdown

1838
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,799
Speaker 2: pass with thirty eight seconds left to Colby Parkinson seals

1839
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 2: the victory. By the way, Puka Nakua ten catches one

1840
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: hundred and eleven yards and a touchdown. The Rams survive

1841
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 2: in Carolina thirty four to thirty one. Again, we don't

1842
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 2: yet know who the Rams will play in the second

1843
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 2: round in the Divisional round of the NFL Playoffs.

1844
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 4: Look, I mean they had to go on the road

1845
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,520
Speaker 4: and win, and they did. It wasn't a particularly oppressive

1846
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 4: game overall for them. Their defense was leaking oil. They

1847
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 4: were able to get some pressure on that last drive

1848
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 4: on Bryce Young. Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Like special teams

1849
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 4: is not good in a game either, but all you

1850
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 4: got to do is win in the playoffs, and they're

1851
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 4: still an incredibly dangerous team potentially with the MVP and

1852
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford at quarterback. Anybody that had the opportunity was

1853
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 4: ready and hoping to play Carolina and now you have

1854
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 4: to deal with the Rams, and this is just look good.

1855
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 4: Teams find a way, and I think you can give

1856
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:35,520
Speaker 4: a lot of credit to Carolina. They proved that they belonged.

1857
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 4: They showed up, they played out. It's really good to

1858
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 4: watch Bryce Young just kind of come into his own

1859
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 4: a little bit. He's never gonna win League MVP, but

1860
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 4: it's very clear that his team believes in him and

1861
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 4: they're doing everything they can to help him succeed. And

1862
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 4: I like seeing that for him. But uh, you know,

1863
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 4: eventually you're going to run into some kind of adversity,

1864
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,799
Speaker 4: and the Rams did it. They try to shoot themselves

1865
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 4: in the foot and get themselves beat and they were

1866
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 4: still able to pull this thing out and that's a

1867
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 4: credit to them. And they're still going to be a

1868
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,520
Speaker 4: really tough out in this postseason.

1869
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,879
Speaker 2: With the Rams win, they now wait for the result

1870
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 2: of the San Francisco Philly game on Sunday. If San

1871
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 2: Francisco wins, the Rams will play in Chicago. If Philadelphia wins,

1872
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 2: the Rams will play the Seahawks. Fox Sports Radio aertors

1873
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio.

1874
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: Speaking of San Francisco Philly, one of three games on Sunday.

1875
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 2: One of four remaining games on Wild Card weekend. We're

1876
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 2: gonna preview them all. Next Ertors Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

1877
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio Aerators Jason Martin, broadcasting

1878
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Hey, have you

1879
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 2: checked out Fox Sports Radio's new YouTube channel. All you

1880
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,840
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1881
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,439
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1882
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1883
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1884
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:11,160
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1885
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,200
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1886
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1887
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: you out of here a little bit early this evening,

1888
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: final time, this evening. What what do you gotta get us?

1889
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: Updated on here at one twenty four Eastern Time.

1890
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 9: Well after these two wild wild card playoff games to

1891
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 9: start the postseason, we had a day in the NFL

1892
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 9: playoffs that we haven't had in over twenty years, because

1893
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 9: on the same day we had two teams overcome deficits

1894
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 9: with a touchdown in the last two minutes of regulation

1895
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 9: to win a playoff game. First, the Rams won on

1896
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 9: a TD pass in the final minute for a victory

1897
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 9: at Carolina thirty four to thirty one. Then the Bears,

1898
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 9: with the big comeback three touchdowns in about the last

1899
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 9: ten minutes, including a late score, beat the Packers thirty

1900
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 9: one to twenty seven. And yes, Green Bay kicker Brandon

1901
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 9: McManus missed two field goal attempts and an extra point.

1902
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 9: Bears were down twenty one to six early in the

1903
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 9: fourth quarter and then scored twenty five points in the

1904
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 9: final period. The Bears had gone two to four in

1905
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 9: division games during the regular season, but they advance and

1906
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 9: the Packers, who lost five straight, do not nine eight

1907
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 9: and one Green Bays overall record. The Bears get their

1908
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 9: first playoff win since twenty ten. The Rams three point

1909
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 9: win came after Carolina had actually scored, taking the lead

1910
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 9: with under three minutes left. Panthers did have two turnovers

1911
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 9: in this home loss. Panthers finished eight to ten on

1912
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 9: the season they were hosting because they were a division champ.

1913
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 9: The Rams as a team twenty nine carries, one hundred

1914
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 9: and sixteen yards rushing. LA led fourteen to nothing in

1915
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 9: the first half. Carolina on fourth down conversions today oh

1916
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 9: for three. There were four lead changes in the fourth quarter.

1917
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 9: Another struggle on the road. The Rams only went five

1918
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 9: to four on the road in the regular season. They

1919
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 9: had lost a Carolina in late November in a close game.

1920
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 9: They could be back at Seattle after losing a close

1921
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 9: game there recently. We'll see what happens in the Sunday games.

1922
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 9: Three playoff games coming up on Sunday. But the Rams

1923
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 9: with the late TD pass win. Matthew Stafford had three

1924
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,919
Speaker 9: touchdown passes in that game, three hundred and four yards

1925
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 9: despite a finger injury, and today Matthew Stafford was voted

1926
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 9: the All Pro quarterback for twenty twenty five, ahead of

1927
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 9: Drake May thirty one votes to eighteen. The Patriots and

1928
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 9: May have the Sunday night game hosting the Chargers. Temperature

1929
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 9: and the thirties for that the Pats fourteen and three

1930
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 9: with the top ranked offense in the AFC and twenty

1931
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 9: nine points per game. San Francisco will be at Philadelphia

1932
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 9: before that on Fox TV four to thirty pm Eastern time.

1933
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 9: The forty nine Ers allowed more touchdown passes than the

1934
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:54,799
Speaker 9: defense had sacks and interceptions combined. This year the Niners

1935
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 9: might be twelve and five. That was something. I mean,

1936
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 9: we're talking about Bears magic. That was a bit of

1937
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 9: magic considering all the injuries the Niners had this season. Again,

1938
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 9: no rain in the forecast for Sunday in Philadelphia after

1939
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 9: all the rain they had today, tarp was on the field.

1940
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 9: Very windy conditions expected in Philly tomorrow though, in about

1941
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 9: forty degrees.

1942
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 3: Jaguars have won eight in a row.

1943
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 9: They'll be starting the three game schedule on Sunday one

1944
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 9: pm Eastern hosting the Buffalo Bills, who had the number

1945
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 9: one pass defense in the league. That's the good news.

1946
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 9: The bad news the Bills run defense bottom five in

1947
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 9: the league, and there is a Monday night game for

1948
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 9: wild Card weekend. The Texans, who have won nine in

1949
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 9: a row, will play at Pittsburgh. Wide receiver dk Metcalf

1950
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 9: back from the two game suspension for the Steelers, Pittsburgh's

1951
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 9: franchise at home on Monday night. Football has won twenty

1952
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,799
Speaker 9: three straight games. Temperature will be in the thirties. Houston

1953
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 9: did go ten and two in conference games this year

1954
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 9: on a bye this weekend. The AFC's number one seed

1955
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 9: Denver and the NFC's number one seed Seattle, which has

1956
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 9: won seven in a row and clinch the one seed

1957
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 9: with a winn at San Francisco. Buffalo placed wide receiver

1958
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 9: Joshua Palmer on injury reserve with a bad ankle. The

1959
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 9: Falcons named former quarterback Matt Ryan as their new President

1960
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 9: of football, new position for them. He'll lead the search

1961
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,799
Speaker 9: for a new head coach and a new general manager.

1962
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 9: Atlanta hasn't had a winning season since twenty seventeen. They

1963
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 9: finished with either seven or eight wins most years since then.

1964
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 9: Former Ravens head coach John Harbass says he'll narrow his

1965
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 9: list to three or four teams before interviewing for a

1966
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 9: new job. The Chicago Cubs are signing third baseman Alex

1967
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:34,520
Speaker 9: Bregman to a five year deal. The Rockies acquired outfielder

1968
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 9: Jake McCarthy from the Diamondbacks NHL Boston, a ten to

1969
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 9: two winner over the Rangers. Tampa Bay won seven to

1970
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 9: two at Philadelphia. Overtime victories for the Islanders in San

1971
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 9: Jose and College Hoops. Wisconsin won at number two Michigan

1972
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 9: ninety one eighty eight. Texas won tonight at number thirteen

1973
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 9: Alabama byu edged Utah Vanderbilt one again beating LSU. Auburn

1974
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 9: defeated number fifteen Arkansas. NBA sacer I knows Dennis Shruder

1975
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 9: was suspended three games for a postgame confrontation. Clippers won

1976
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 9: a close one in Detroit. San Antonio won at Boston,

1977
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 9: and Charlotte took the late game one fifty to ninety

1978
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 9: five at Utah. There is your final, Chicago. It's still amazing.

1979
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 9: They won this thing thirty one to twenty seven winners

1980
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,520
Speaker 9: against Green Bay so ap reports at Matt and Lafour's

1981
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 9: playoff record is three and six. There are only three

1982
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,520
Speaker 9: other coaches with that many games coached in the postseason

1983
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 9: to have a worse winning percentage, and one of those

1984
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 9: is a name that I thought of when you started

1985
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 9: talking about coaches that can only take you so far,

1986
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 9: Marty Schottenheimer.

1987
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 3: On that list, back to you, not a.

1988
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 2: Good name to be in a conversation with when we're

1989
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: talking about playoff records. So all right to Segrea, have

1990
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 2: a great evening. We'll see you tomorrow. Chargers are not

1991
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 2: playing it so far, so Disaga. We'll be in with

1992
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 2: the fellas Mark Willerney from salam and Arnie Spanier and

1993
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Chris Plank. Speaking of the Chargers, they are one of

1994
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 2: six teams playing on Sunday, four games overall between Sunday

1995
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 2: and Monday. So I'll tell you what, Mary, give us

1996
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 2: a little football music, Ian, give us let's preview some

1997
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 2: Sunday and Monday NFL playoff action.

1998
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, we'll get to that Chargers one in just a

1999
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,480
Speaker 20: few minutes, but let's start with the Bills at Jaguars

2000
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 20: game one pm Eastern Time tomorrow. Jacksonville's favored by a

2001
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 20: point and a half in this one as the home team. Jmart,

2002
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 20: who you got in this one?

2003
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,679
Speaker 4: Will start with you, man, Honestly, I got the Bills.

2004
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 4: I just I can't imagine that they're gonna go lose

2005
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 4: this game. I understand. It's been an awesome coaching job

2006
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 4: this year by Liam Cohen, and the Jags have been

2007
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 4: really good. I think I just think this is too much,

2008
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 4: too soon. I think this is the Josh Allen game.

2009
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about the Bills all

2010
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 4: the way through, but I said before, I didn't care

2011
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 4: about their regular season. I didn't care if they went

2012
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 4: so seventeen to zero as long as they made the playoffs.

2013
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 4: It was all about what they did in January. The

2014
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 4: fact that they are not favored if they lose, McDermott

2015
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 4: is out, I just cannot see them bring him back again.

2016
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 4: I do not think they're going to lose this game, though.

2017
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 4: I think that they are going to show up and

2018
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 4: just overwhelm the Jacksonville Jaguars and win this game.

2019
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, Jamart. We talked a lot

2020
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 2: about Matt Lafleur's playoff record. How about this, Sean McDermott

2021
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 2: has yet to win a road playoff.

2022
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 3: Game as the Buffalo Bills head coach.

2023
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 4: That's terrible.

2024
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 3: It's terrible. I'll tell you you know, Listen, I'm not

2025
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 3: rooting for it.

2026
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 2: I love Josh Allen, you know, quite positive, maybe the

2027
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 2: most gifted football player I've ever seen, at least the quarterback.

2028
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:42,679
Speaker 4: Position on the short list.

2029
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not rooting against it. I want to see

2030
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: great players reach greatness on the field. I worry it's

2031
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: not just going on the road. The Jacksonville Jaguars have

2032
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 2: a great run defense. James Cook has been so important

2033
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: to what they do. I've been talking about this for weeks.

2034
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 2: The vibe, the vibes on I feel weird. They're a

2035
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 2: team that's been up and down. I know they've been

2036
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 2: good down the stretch here. Three of their last four.

2037
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 2: The only loss was to that to Philly in that

2038
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 2: game where they had a chance to win it on

2039
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 2: the final play. I think I said three of the

2040
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 2: last four. I meant to say five out of the

2041
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 2: last six. But I bring it up to say I'm

2042
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 2: getting weird vibes here. I'm gonna pick up. Yeah, I'm

2043
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 2: gonna take Jacksonville to win. And I am with you

2044
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 2: if you lose this game and you do not pull

2045
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 2: the plug on Sean McDermott first thing Monday, especially with

2046
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 2: John Harbord available, and I'll be really quick because we

2047
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 2: got three more games to preview.

2048
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 3: We didn't get a chance to really.

2049
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 2: Talk John Harbon hour one because there was so much

2050
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 2: going on. He told Fox today he plans on.

2051
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 3: Doing three to four interviews.

2052
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,759
Speaker 2: So John Harbaugh knows he's the bell of the ball

2053
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 2: and he is not gonna be rushed into anything. And

2054
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 2: I think you're out of your mind if you lose

2055
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 2: this game, and before the flight even lands in Buffalo,

2056
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 2: somebody needs to be on the phone with John Harbaugh.

2057
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 3: If you lose, I'm taking Jacksonville to win, all right.

2058
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 20: Next up, four to thirty Eastern time on Fox, the

2059
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 20: forty nine Ers are traveling to Philadelphia to take on

2060
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 20: the Eagles. The Eagles, as the home team, are favored

2061
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 20: by six points in this one. We'll start with you,

2062
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 20: Aaron in this one.

2063
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 4: Who you got?

2064
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been back and forth on this one quite

2065
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 3: a bit. You know.

2066
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 2: Philly's another one. They've just been up and down all

2067
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 2: year long. Obviously had a chance to get the two

2068
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 2: seed last week, rested most of their starters.

2069
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 3: Being at home. Given that the forty nine ers.

2070
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 2: Themselves are so banged up, and given that the defense

2071
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: has really never you know, failed at Philadelphia. I know,

2072
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 2: statistically they had a couple weeks there in the middle

2073
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 2: where they weren't great. The defense always shows up. San

2074
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 2: Francisco is so banged up. I just I do think

2075
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 2: Philly gets to win. I think there's a ceiling to

2076
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 2: what they can do this year. The offense has been

2077
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 2: so inconsistent. I don't think they're going back to back,

2078
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 2: but I will take them to win this game in Philly.

2079
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 4: Yes, so we agree on this one even though and

2080
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 4: I've had a difficult time with this one too, But

2081
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 4: here's what it comes down to for me. Yes, the

2082
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:12,719
Speaker 4: Whome field advantage makes a huge deal. But I feel

2083
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 4: like Jalen Hurts plays his best in the postseason. Sure,

2084
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 4: I think he has had some mediocre regular seasons, not

2085
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 4: just this year, but we've seen this before. But he's

2086
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 4: a real gamer and he seems to show up in

2087
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 4: these moments. And I think Barkley he's been pretty disappointing

2088
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 4: this year. I think he's kind of made more for

2089
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 4: this moment also. But the other thing that we have

2090
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 4: seen is the Eagles defense gets really nasty in the postseason.

2091
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 6: Yep.

2092
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 4: And I think brock Pardy is going to feel like

2093
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 4: Jordan Love did last year, where he just nothing went

2094
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 4: right for them. I just I think they're walking into

2095
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 4: a buzzsaw. I think this is a it's a very

2096
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 4: talented san Francisco team. But to your point, if they

2097
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,879
Speaker 4: can't get pressure on Hurts, he's going to pick them apart.

2098
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,599
Speaker 4: I feel like on it with his legs. We saw

2099
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 4: it with Carson Beck in the College Football Playoff semi final.

2100
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 4: I think Hurts is Hurts will will run the ball

2101
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 4: more than we've seen him run it all season long,

2102
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 4: and they're just not going to have an answer for that.

2103
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 4: I think I think Philadelphia will win this game.

2104
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 3: All right?

2105
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 4: Ian?

2106
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 3: What do you got?

2107
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: So we agree on Philly over San Francisco. I took Jacksonville.

2108
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 2: You took Buffalo in the first game, third game of

2109
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 2: the evening.

2110
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 6: All right?

2111
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 20: How about the night game? We got the Chargers going

2112
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 20: to Foxborough to take on the Patriots. Patriots as the

2113
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 20: home team, are favored by three and a half.

2114
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 3: In this one.

2115
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 4: What do you think? Jmard?

2116
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: Who you got?

2117
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 11: So?

2118
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 4: This one's tough too, because it feels like everybody is

2119
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 4: acting like the Patriots are or a foregone conclusion here.

2120
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean Vrabel has lost as a

2121
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 4: one seed before I've seen it. I was in the

2122
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 4: building for it, as a matter of fact, covering the

2123
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 4: Titans that year. Drake May is only in his second year.

2124
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 4: This is a new environment for him. They've had some

2125
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 4: off the field stuff to deal with over the last

2126
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 4: couple of weeks as well. And then you got Justin

2127
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 4: Herbert who's trying to prove things, Jim Harbaugh, who's always

2128
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 4: trying to prove things. And the games that you think

2129
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 4: the Chargers aren't going to show up in are the

2130
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 4: ones that they tend to show up in. So I've

2131
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 4: been torn on this one for days. I'm really looking

2132
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 4: forward to watching this as a result of that, I

2133
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't think I can pick the upset, though.

2134
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 4: I don't think that they're going to go on the

2135
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 4: road and beat them in a cold Foxborough. I do

2136
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:31,640
Speaker 4: think the Patriots will win, but I think that the

2137
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 4: Chargers have deserved more respect than I've heard them get

2138
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 4: this week.

2139
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,720
Speaker 2: I actually agree on basically everything. I myself have been

2140
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 2: torn on this. I do think it's fair to question,

2141
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 2: you know, not the fourteen to three record from the Patriots,

2142
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 2: but who they beat along the way. Division was bad,

2143
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, split with Buffalo obviously the most recent game

2144
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:52,599
Speaker 2: they were up.

2145
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:53,839
Speaker 3: Big, fell apart. Whatever.

2146
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,799
Speaker 2: I just bring it up to very simply say, sometimes

2147
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: it's just not your year, man. And with the Charger

2148
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 2: it started in training camp with Rashaun Slater injury after injury,

2149
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 2: Herbert's playing with the hand injury. It just it just

2150
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 2: feels like there's certain years there's just a ceiling to

2151
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 2: what you're capable of. You know, you just made the

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01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 2: college football parallel of like, so I was gonnaallel, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2153
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 2: Like I'm just trying to think of there was a

2154
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 2: college football team I was thinking of.

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01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter the point I'm trying to make.

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01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 4: I sometimes you're just snake bit man.

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01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2158
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just not your gear.

2159
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 2: And that's what I was gonna say. It feels like

2160
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 2: this is just not Los Angeles' time. I hope we

2161
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: see them healthy with boat tackles in twenty twenty six.

2162
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 2: And when I say that, I obviously mean the season

2163
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:44,839
Speaker 2: the fall of twenty twenty six. Give me New England

2164
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 2: to win at home. H But again, I'm with you,

2165
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 2: if the upset does happen, I won't be shocked. As

2166
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 2: you said, second year quarterback questionable wins when you actually

2167
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 2: break it down. But I'm gonna go ahead and take

2168
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers in a close loss. So the

2169
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 2: Patriots in a close win in that Sunday night game,

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01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 2: all right, last one we got the Monday night football game.

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01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 2: It's the Houston Texans going to Pittsburgh to take on

2172
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Houston's favored by three points.

2173
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 3: In this one. A field goal on the road. What

2174
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 3: do you guys think? Tough one here?

2175
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 4: Start with you.

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01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough one. Listen.

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Speaker 2: You know, weirdly, I'm happy for Aaron Rodgers. Like I've

2178
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 2: enjoyed the Aaron Rodgers Pittsburgh experience more than I thought

2179
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 2: I would.

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01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 4: Really hadn't heard much from him. He's just gone out

2181
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 4: and played football.

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01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 3: I said this to Dan Byer the other day.

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01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if like I don't think he was

2184
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 2: on McAfee this year, right, So, I don't know if

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01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 2: that was a Mike Tomlin thing or a respect to

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01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin thing. If I'm not gonna make noise. It's

2187
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 2: just been way quieter than I thought. And then for

2188
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 2: him to be able to get the win last week.

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01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 2: And I know missfield goals all that, but you know,

2190
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 2: without DK Metcalf, I also know that DK metcalf is back.

2191
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 2: To know this Texans defense is insane, nasty, yeah.

2192
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 3: Nasty defense. Nine straight wins.

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01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 2: Listen, I think, and you know, I think over the

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01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks, J Mart, at some point we

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01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 2: go back and revisit our preseason predictions. But both of

2196
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 2: us were not excited about Pittsburgh. Both of us did

2197
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: not think they would be in in this position. And

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01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 2: to the point that I just made, you just made

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01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,640
Speaker 2: on the Chargers, it feels like the ceiling to this

2200
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh team was about ten and seven, was finding a

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01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 2: way into the playoffs and was losing in Round one.

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01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 2: And so I know Pittsburgh hasn't won a playoff game

2203
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: and basically a decade at this point, I don't think

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01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 2: that changes Monday Night in Pittsburgh.

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01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 4: Man I defense usually travels and Houston's defense is large.

2206
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 4: It's the best of the four units on the field

2207
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 4: in terms of offense defense with the Steelers and the Texans.

2208
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm not as sure about the Texans offense right now.

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01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how they move it running the ball,

2210
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 4: but they're not playing against a great run defense. TJ.

2211
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 4: Wat's gonna be playing with his hair on fire. There's

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01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 4: no question about that. Aaron Rodgers has not had a

2213
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 4: ton of postseason success in many years, quite frankly dating

2214
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 4: back through his last several years in Green Bay. I

2215
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 4: want to pick Pittsburgh, I really do, them being at home,

2216
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 4: it being an outdoor game. Boswell is a clutch kicker,

2217
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 4: like I want to pick them, but I'm not gonna

2218
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 4: do it because I'm gonna pick the better defense. I

2219
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 4: think that will be the difference. I think that Houston's

2220
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 4: just going to be too tough for Pittsburgh to move

2221
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 4: the ball on. But I'm here to tell you I

2222
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 4: don't feel great about this because I do think the

2223
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 4: Steelers can win this game.

2224
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 2: So we both have Houston meeting Pittsburgh on Monday night.

2225
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 2: We both have the Patriots beating the Chargers on Sunday night.

2226
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 2: We both have the Eagles beating the forty nine Ers

2227
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 2: on Sunday afternoon the Big Fox Game. And I will

2228
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 2: take Jacksonville in the opener the first game of the day.

2229
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 2: Jason has Buffalo, by.

2230
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 4: The way, what a what a slate man? Yeah's great

2231
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 4: football over the next couple of days and all like

2232
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 4: the drama. Both the games on Saturday came down to

2233
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 4: the final minute, so you know, can't ask for too

2234
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 4: much more we've already gotten. But this Sunday in particular,

2235
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 4: it's just loaded with great football.

2236
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 2: Three great games on Sunday and then again the Monday

2237
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 2: night game. Pittsburgh hosting the Houston Texans. We're hosting Fox

2238
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 2: Sports Radio until two am Eastern Time. Will come back

2239
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 2: wrap the show. One segment left Fox Sports.

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Speaker 10: Are you.

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Speaker 2: Mary bringing us in with some smooth jazz to and

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01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:56,280
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2246
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,879
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01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna have plenty on the Bears thrilling come from

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Speaker 2: behind win thirty one to twenty seven final score. Bears

2249
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 2: were down twenty seven sixteen with under seven minutes to

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Speaker 2: Jay Mart, we kind of, you know, we've danced around

2258
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 2: the John Harbaugh topic over the last couple hours. We

2259
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 2: were interrupted by a thriller in the first the first

2260
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 2: hour when we were talking about it. John Horbaugh did

2261
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 2: tell the Fox Sports pregame show today that his plan

2262
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: to interview with three to four teams. We know, according

2263
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 2: to Adam Schefter, seven teams reached out to his agent

2264
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 2: as soon as he was fired. At the time, there

2265
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 2: were only six openings. Obviously Miami was one. Mike McDonald

2266
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 2: was fired shortly thereafter. Do you think that Jim nut Jim,

2267
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: I think Jim Harball will have a job by the

2268
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 2: time we're on air next week.

2269
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: Do you think John Harball will have a job by

2270
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 3: the time we're on air next week.

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01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure because I don't know that

2272
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 4: he has to make that decision so fast. I think

2273
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 4: that he's kind of in that spot where people are

2274
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 4: going to wait until he makes his decision for all

2275
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 4: the other dominoes to fall. He doesn't have to wait

2276
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 4: for something else to happen first. By the end of

2277
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 4: the weekend, he's gonna see some playoff teams lose and

2278
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 4: potentially some jobs open there the Packers that may be

2279
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 4: wide open right now, the bills could be open, you know,

2280
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen hours from right now. There could be some

2281
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 4: of those things still to come, and maybe he had

2282
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 4: some Maybe he has his eyes on that. We've heard

2283
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 4: that he likes Jackson Dark quite a bit. So the

2284
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 4: Giants are probably certainly in the mix there some of

2285
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 4: the jobs. You're not surprised he's probably not interested there Miami.

2286
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 4: I don't think their quarterback situation is what you want.

2287
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 4: But I think that's more it. It's just he has

2288
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 4: the luxury to take his time because teams will wait

2289
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 4: for him, at least the teams that are interested in him.

2290
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 4: Where he's saying, Hey, you know you guys, I might

2291
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 4: want to come there. I don't think anybody is going

2292
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 4: to move on too quickly to hire somebody else, so

2293
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 4: I would say no, I don't think he's going to

2294
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 4: have a job yet. I think he's gonna interview, but

2295
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 4: I think we're probably still a couple of weeks away

2296
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 4: from that, just because I think he has the luxury

2297
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 4: to kind of sit back and really make a conscious decision. Now,

2298
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 4: if let's say Green Bay fires Matt Lafleur on Monday,

2299
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 4: maybe he's ready for that because there's one of those jobs.

2300
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 4: Or if it's Josh, I'm gonna go coach Josh Allen,

2301
01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 4: I don't need to think about that. I'll go ahead

2302
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 4: and do that. But barring that opportunity, the one that

2303
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 4: he just can't turn down immediately, I think he'll take it. Song.

2304
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 2: You know, this is kind of random, but I mentioned

2305
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel being fired from the Miami Dolphins. So their

2306
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 2: early reports I heard that he could be the new

2307
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator with the Detroit Lions, and I was thinking

2308
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 2: about this. I get it because he's obviously a great

2309
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 2: play caller all that. I also do think that Dan

2310
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 2: Campbell mister testosterone and Mike McDaniel, who wears jeorts like

2311
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 2: I just I get.

2312
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 4: It different mix.

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01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, I get it, but it

2314
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 2: does sort of feel weird to me.

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01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 4: No, yeah, it does. Winning cures all. McDaniel's apparently really

2316
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 4: likable guy and people really like being around him. Both

2317
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 4: of them actually will have been failed Miami coaches.

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01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 3: That's true.

2319
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's that tie in and you never know

2320
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 4: what else, uh, what else is going on there? But

2321
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 4: he doesn't. He's not a guy that tends to bristle

2322
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 4: many people, at least from He has a pretty good

2323
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 4: reputation in terms of being able to work with guys

2324
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 4: and stuff. So I don't know that he's gonna be

2325
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 4: some headstrong dude that's gonna be hard. It's definitely not

2326
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 4: like the that synergy fit where these two guys are

2327
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 4: built the same way. But maybe that's okay. Maybe somebody,

2328
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 4: maybe they need somebody that's a little different from Dan

2329
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 4: Campbell to kind of, you know, curb his impulses a bit,

2330
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 4: and then McDaniel needs somebody it's a little bit tougher

2331
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 4: in a few moments. Maybe they're the perfect mixture because

2332
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 4: they they kind of fulfill the other's weaknesses.

2333
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 3: Interesting thought.

2334
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: Anyone anywhere else on the coaching carousel that intrigues you,

2335
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of open jobs. I'll say this

2336
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 2: really quick. To get back to Harball for a second.

2337
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen. I'd like to see

2338
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 2: him go to Vegas first. Overall, Pickano, like I want

2339
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza to be put in a position to succeed,

2340
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 2: No different than Kaylee Williams with Ben Johnson, no different

2341
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 2: than Justin Herbert.

2342
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 3: Would Jim Harbaugh.

2343
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll happen, in large part because one,

2344
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: there's going to be some good jobs available, including the

2345
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 2: ones that are already available. I also don't know that

2346
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 2: John would be super excited to be in the same

2347
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 2: division as his brother, but that one's intriguing to me.

2348
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 2: Anything else stand out on the cares.

2349
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 4: Only thing I'll say about the Raiders. I saw this

2350
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 4: take a couple of different times this week on a

2351
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 4: couple of different programs, that the Raiders need to just

2352
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 4: back up the truck whatever it takes to get signetti.

2353
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 3: Please stop, thank you, please please stop.

2354
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 4: I understand what you're doing right. You're gonna get Mendoza.

2355
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 4: Go ahead and get his coach. Let coach Sig stay

2356
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 4: at Indiana, like, we don't need to do this. Let

2357
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 4: do go ahead and win his national championship first. If

2358
01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 4: that's what's gonna happen, no disrespect to Miami. I think

2359
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 4: that's what's gonna happen. We'll see, we'll predict it next week.

2360
01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 4: We got time because the game's not played until like March. Yeah,

2361
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 4: but don't don't do this, man like Raiders, go go

2362
01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 4: do what you gotta do. But these takes are are

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Speaker 4: This stuff is tired, this is washed. Don't do this.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you know, what's not watch this show.

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Speaker 2: We got an awesome crew in the back. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to Mary Mack. Thank you to producer Ian who was

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Speaker 2: monitoring calls all night. Thank you to Lee in the

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Speaker 2: back for cutting up sound. Thank you for Steve de Sager,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. I'm Aaron Torres. Make sure to download the podcast.

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Speaker 2: A lot of ground covered, some great calls. Bernie Fratto

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Speaker 2: coming up next. Make sure to stay plugged in Fox

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