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Speaker 2: Helloha, everyone, Welcome back to Facing Evil. I'm Rascha Pecerreiro

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Speaker 2: and I'mivet Genteel. In this week, we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: murder of Sandra Gaullis. This murder took place back in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six, and it happened in Hawaii, our

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Speaker 2: home state. And I know many people think of the

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Speaker 2: beautiful islands of Hawaii as a tropical paradise, which it

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Speaker 2: absolutely is. But it's a place you don't think that

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Speaker 2: murder or crime would happen. But it's just a place

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Speaker 2: like anywhere else, and sadly, it does happen sometimes.

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Speaker 3: And the thing about this case is that it seemed

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Speaker 3: like it was an open and shut case, but this

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Speaker 3: And it's really because of the parents, the family, the Ohanna,

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Speaker 3: the village that fought for justice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we are so grateful today to have part

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Speaker 2: conversation about Sandy. We have two members of her Ohana

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Speaker 2: with us here today, but first our producer Trevor is

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Speaker 2: going to walk us through today's case.

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Speaker 4: In January of two thousand and six, twenty seven year

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Speaker 4: old Sandra Galis was found strangled in her car parked

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Speaker 4: in the garage of her Ala La home.

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Speaker 5: Police launched the murder investigation, but never arrested a suspect

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Speaker 5: and the case went cold until now, Koa You police

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Speaker 5: have arrested a man for the murder of Sandra Gallis.

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Speaker 5: He was her ex husband.

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Speaker 4: Cal what you police say this has been a collaborative

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Speaker 4: the suspected killer because of improved DNA technologies and a

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Speaker 1: Sandra Gallis was a twenty seven year old woman who

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Speaker 1: was killed in Hawaii in two thousand and six. On

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Speaker 1: in Kawaii. The causes of death were strangulation and blunt

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Speaker 1: force trauma to the head. Seven years earlier, she had

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Speaker 1: married Darren Gallis. Together they had two sons. In April

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Speaker 1: of two thousand and five, Sandra and Darren separated after

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Speaker 1: she discovered that he was cheating on her. They decided

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Speaker 1: to share custody of the boys. Darren was opposed to

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Speaker 1: learned that Sandra had a new relationship with a man

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Speaker 1: named Ryan Shinjo, a chef who reportedly lavished Sandra with

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Speaker 1: and six, his coworkers witnessed Darren losing his temper when

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Speaker 1: he saw Ryan and Sandra out together in public. The

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Speaker 1: Neighbors then saw her car leave to pick up the

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Speaker 1: open and shut and that Darren Gallis would go to jail,

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Speaker 1: but this was not the case. The police chief said, quote,

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Speaker 1: you have to have some physical evidence and an eye witness.

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Speaker 1: Darren Gallis had the means in the motive, but that

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Speaker 1: although Sandra's parents tried to stay in touch with their grandchildren,

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Speaker 1: With no new evidence, the case went cold. Over the years,

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Speaker 1: They even appeared on Dateline. They also started a foundation

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Speaker 1: dedicated to raising awareness of Sandra's murder. Finally, years later,

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Speaker 1: twenty two. And So who was Sandra Gallis? What really

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Speaker 3: Today we are so grateful to have Lawrence Mendanza Senior

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Speaker 3: and Lawrence Mendanza Junior. They are the father and the

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Speaker 3: brother of Sandy Gaullis. We are so honored to have

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Speaker 3: you so much for being here on your birthday. You

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Speaker 3: just turned eighty two. To be here with us to

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Speaker 3: talk about your beautiful daughter, it's it just means so much,

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Speaker 3: So thank you both for being here.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 2: So Holi lahanaw Larry, Happy birthday, Arry, So dad, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna call you Larry, and then Laurence Junior. Of course, Laurence,

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Speaker 2: so our listeners know, but thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: being here. And we know that we are all from

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Speaker 2: the same beautiful state, raised in Julvity and I feel

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Speaker 2: that we share. I would love to know what was

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Speaker 2: it like growing up for you, Lawrence in Kawai.

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Speaker 6: It was awesome.

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Speaker 7: I mean, as you all know, I mean, the state

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Speaker 7: of Provii is just incredible, right, It's not just the

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Speaker 7: beauty of the of the aina, but also just the

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Speaker 7: beauty of the people. And it's a privilege to have

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Speaker 7: grown up there and experienced life on the island.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's you know, Hawaii is really a special place.

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Speaker 3: Can you start to tell us about your sister, Like,

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Speaker 3: what was it like, you know, growing up with your sister?

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Speaker 3: What did you guys do together? What was your life together?

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Speaker 7: Like, well, you know, the first part of growing up

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Speaker 7: we used to go out. I used to take my

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Speaker 7: pack and we would God, we had two fruit orchards

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Speaker 7: gone all day, right, we would go. We got hungry

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Speaker 7: we go pick tangerines or oranges or mangos or whatever

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Speaker 6: And those are other things. You know.

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Speaker 7: If I shot something, I had to eat it.

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Speaker 6: So I always shot, yeah, right, I had to.

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Speaker 7: Clean it and eat it, bring it home. Mom would

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Speaker 7: cook it, you know. But then we would go to

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Speaker 7: And it's time to come home. We knew, you know,

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Speaker 7: started get dark, all right, we got to go back

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Speaker 6: So it was you know, it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: What was the age difference between the two of you.

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Speaker 7: Two years or year nine months?

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Speaker 2: A little a little shorter of a distance. Evet and

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Speaker 2: I are eleven years apart. But I would just follow

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Speaker 2: her around everywhere. But we were city girls. We never

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Speaker 2: got to kill anything and eat it. Peys maybe, but

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Speaker 8: Larry.

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Speaker 2: I would love to know your your backstory and you

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Speaker 2: and your wife. Obviously you made the conscious decision to

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Speaker 2: raise Sandy and Lawrence on Kowai. What what made you

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Speaker 2: decide to do that, especially having lived all over the

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Speaker 8: If I'm not mistaken, I was born on Kawai.

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Speaker 3: Oh you are a Kawai boy. Okay, oh wow.

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Speaker 6: I'm a local boy all the way through.

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Speaker 8: I love it and.

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Speaker 6: I got ready to retire from the military. Lawrence was

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Speaker 9: Sandraw was actually born in Japan, the country of her

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Speaker 9: her mother. And the reason I came back to Hawaii

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Speaker 9: was I have I had three brothers, two older, one younger.

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Speaker 6: We're all military brats.

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Speaker 8: If you will, muhullo for your service, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I was the only one that came back to Kawai.

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Speaker 9: The other three actually ended up living in Texas and

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Speaker 9: and dad. And I think it was a great decision.

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Speaker 9: I don't regret it, and other than the fact of

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Speaker 3: So Lawrence, growing up with your sister, you know, as

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Speaker 7: Or do you know she always wanted to have a family.

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Speaker 7: You know, she loved being with her friends, she loved dancing,

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Speaker 7: hula was she she was? She was she performed a

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Speaker 9: When she was younger, she joined Leilani Bond pull Lull.

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Speaker 9: She participated in kikiula competition. M Well, she was in

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Speaker 6: Up to the Fern Grotto and Little River. That's where

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Speaker 3: She was a local girl through and through.

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Speaker 9: She was never satisfied with everything. She was always in

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Speaker 9: She always did that. When she went to college after

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Speaker 6: She wanted more. She called us, I can take more,

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Speaker 6: I can take no. We put a stop on that.

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Speaker 9: She she wanted to do everything but she never really

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Speaker 6: I'll make time. I'll make time. That was sy That

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Sandy really had a lust for life. And

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Speaker 2: especially when you dance hula, you have to, you know,

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Speaker 2: and she just it's like a beautiful soul. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to ask you, Lawrence. So we're here to tell Sandy's story,

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Speaker 2: to get her voice out there and to know more

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Speaker 2: about what to look for, because we're always looking for

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Speaker 2: the light in the darkness. And so if you feel comfortable,

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Speaker 2: can you walk us through. Did you see signs leading

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Speaker 2: up to her unfortunate death of domestic violence or anything

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Speaker 7: I distinctly remember one instance, and I was I had

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Speaker 8: You can't let that get to Lawrence.

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Speaker 8: You know, she was a gutter yea.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he made it his life's mission to get

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Speaker 6: For sure, they.

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Speaker 8: Will not let anyone forget Sandy. No.

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Speaker 6: Well. Started at her graves.

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Speaker 9: I promised her that I would go until we got

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Speaker 8: Whatever the cost.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, any things with Sandy that you know why she

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Speaker 9: She thought it was a cruelest and Mena's father.

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Speaker 9: She had made it after Reft she was married and

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Speaker 6: We made up.

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Speaker 9: We were we were bonding and getting quite pleasuredly together

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Speaker 7: I can definitely say that they but it heads a

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Speaker 2: Personalities sounds like me and my daughter Leilani. Yeah, I can,

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Speaker 9: There were three and five when Sandy died, and they

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Speaker 6: Nothing.

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Speaker 9: But I've had family friends, relatives that met with him,

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Speaker 6: They just shout him. That's the way the two children are.

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Speaker 8: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 9: In fact, the oldest one, he will turn twenty three

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Speaker 9: It till the bare minimum maximum time before they catch it.

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Speaker 6: No, thank you, no nothing. We don't hear from them

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Speaker 8: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 9: This was something I anticipated when I decided to pursue

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Speaker 6: That's a decision we made.

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Speaker 8: In order to have justice.

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Speaker 3: I guess I can ask both of you this question.

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Speaker 3: You believed that he was the one who did it.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't Ryan, her boyfriend. All of the evidence was

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Speaker 9: There were two different people. Ryan was cooperative. We were

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Speaker 9: I never you know, he was He wasn't in our

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Speaker 9: He had some issues, but and still on occasion I

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Speaker 9: Darren was just the opposite. Darren wouldn't have anything to

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Speaker 9: So every weekend we would pick the two boys up

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Speaker 9: Then started where the oldest grandson said, I don't I

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Speaker 6: They were being badgered.

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Speaker 9: When I brought them back on Sunday evening, they were

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Speaker 9: After Sandy got killed, there was, you know, as part

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Speaker 9: She was one of their teachers when they were in

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Speaker 6: And they, you know, kept the thing going.

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Speaker 9: But in the process I got with Renee, who is

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Speaker 8: The YW un koy okay Oh.

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Speaker 9: After we got organized about a year after Sandy's death.

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Speaker 8: Wow, fantastic we did.

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Speaker 6: We do it every year.

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Speaker 9: Now it's it's like the seventeenth or eighteen anniversary coming up, and.

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Speaker 8: It's August of twenty twenty three. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, first tournament only had like about thirteen or fourteen teams.

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Speaker 8: Still pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, side different scratch. There was really nothing.

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Speaker 9: We really didn't know what we were doing. But as

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Speaker 9: The maximum is thirty six teams that we can have

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Speaker 6: Shift, if you will. If we get anything bigger, then

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 9: They uses their earnings for domestic violence in YWCA activities,

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic, goes to the foundation, right for the YWCA.

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Speaker 9: Right, I'd beget questions over and over that want to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're not making money, that's not what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're not there to make money.

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Speaker 9: Well, we're there to keep Sandy's.

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Speaker 6: Name going on.

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Speaker 9: That being said, it costs me out of pocket on

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Speaker 6: But we got to where.

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Speaker 9: We give out a sleeve a sleeve of three three

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Speaker 9: We through relatives, family and et cetera, we came up

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Speaker 8: That's absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 7: We also get a lot of help from the community,

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Speaker 7: other individual or family from going through what we went through,

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00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 7: we've we've.

445
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 6: Done our job.

446
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 7: Not only are we keeping my sister's name alive, but

447
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 7: we're helping others not have to endure what my sister

448
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 7: endured and what we endured as well.

449
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so, Sandy has a monument at the White b

450
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: C on Kola, and can you tell us a little

451
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: bit about that, Lawrence, weren't you there for the opening

452
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Speaker 2: of that?

453
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 8: I feel like I saw something with you for part

454
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 8: of it.

455
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 7: They it was kind of a two part deal. They

456
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 7: put a plaque there with my sister's picture and kind

457
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 7: of her story. They had a true opening when they

458
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 7: had the cranes put in, and I was not there

459
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 7: for that. My parents were there, but they had a

460
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 7: big celebration and almost a lot of my sister's friends

461
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 7: showed up, and it was right there in downtown Lehuy.

462
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 7: It's it's definitely a monument that that keeps my sister's

463
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 7: name alive, but definitely is kind of a ray of

464
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 7: hope there at the White BCA for anyone that just

465
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 7: drives buyers or comes by.

466
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 6: To see it.

467
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 9: How Howard came about was when I when they agreed

468
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 9: to start the golf tournament. So I kind of fell off,

469
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 9: felt obligated to go in and help them. So I

470
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 9: was going in just about every day, five days a week,

471
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 9: doing handy dandy work on maintenance, so little minor maintenance,

472
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 9: whatever they wanted to help.

473
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 6: One day I went in there.

474
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 9: And I was so check in with the executive director

475
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 9: to see what she wanted, if she had anything for

476
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 9: me to do, and she.

477
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 6: Said, well, have a seat, let's have a talk.

478
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 9: And okay, she said, well with the board has just

479
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 9: met last night and they agreed to make a monument

480
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 9: for Sandy. And they were interested to know whether I was,

481
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 9: you know, I was agree to it or whatever. Of

482
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 9: course keeping her name alive yet, yeah, that was all

483
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 9: fort What they didn't tell me was we expect you

484
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 9: to make the monument.

485
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's a big piece to leave out.

486
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 9: So there was one worker, a young fellow, he's in

487
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 9: his forties that I was training. He worked there full

488
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 9: time so and he wasn't very familiar with all the

489
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 9: mating and stuff. So I was training him on where

490
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 9: whatever I was doing. Bring him along and short so

491
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 9: long story short, he and I ended up making the

492
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 9: moss rock we true to why. We got a guy

493
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 9: to volunteer to donate a look at a payloader bucket

494
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 9: full of moss rock that we had to go down

495
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 9: and pick up with a truck and aul it up

496
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 9: to the site we had. I had another friend come

497
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 9: in and there was a big palm tree there that

498
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 9: we had to get out and some boulders we had

499
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 9: to move, and he had a little bayloader, so he

500
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 9: came down and did that, and once we got it

501
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 9: all leveled off, I made the forms for the for

502
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 9: the base and we did a moss rock monument stand

503
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 9: plus around.

504
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 6: Seat.

505
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 8: Oh so someone can sit there.

506
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 6: What a lot of people most people don't know.

507
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 9: Is on the seat in it's marsh rock around and

508
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 9: then a marble slab on top. But in the middle

509
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 9: of that we ended up putting a crime capsule in, Oh.

510
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 8: You did what year was that that you did?

511
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: That?

512
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 9: So have good ten years ago and I had never

513
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 9: done work with marsh rock before. Fortunately they help or

514
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 9: had had some experience, so we between the two of

515
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 9: us we got it done and ironically not the monument

516
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 9: even the logo of Sandy. We put on Sandy's golf boat.

517
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 9: I have a cousin living up right outside of Los Angeles,

518
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 9: and he's about two months older than I am, and

519
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 9: he's a very educated person who's got a PhD. And

520
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 9: he's a part time artist and photographer.

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00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 6: So I got with him.

522
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 9: Told him what we wanted on the monument, and between

523
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 9: he and I and over the phone, he drew up

524
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 9: exactly what we wanted.

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Speaker 2: Well, I promise you we will visit her memorial when

526
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: we go to Lihue Koway. Yeah, I would love to know.

527
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: How do you imoa right? How do you move onward

528
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: and upward?

529
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 6: Is?

530
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: What does your healing journey look like? I'd love to

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Speaker 2: know from your perspective, first, Lawrence, if we could, as

532
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: an uncle, as a brother, I want to know about

533
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: you personally, how do you heal if that's even possible.

534
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 7: Keeping her alive? I have two children on my own,

535
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 7: my oldest Sander. You know, when my wife was pregnant

536
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 7: with my son, were we definitely wanted to keep my

537
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 7: sister's memory alive. And you know, we tossed names back

538
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 7: and forth, and we finally decided on Sander, spelt a

539
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 7: little differently than the normal.

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00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 6: It's s A N.

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Speaker 7: D R. So we basically took Sandra, my sister's.

542
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: Ficial friends and flip floped the last two letters. So

543
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 5: and both my children, my son Sander.

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 7: And my daughter Brelan, both absolutely know my sister although

545
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 7: they never met her. Yeah, we celebrate her birthday. We

546
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 7: have her pictures up in the house. Obviously, my son's

547
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 7: named after her. It's amazing because there's times where we'll

548
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 7: just be sitting around and talking and my daughter go, Daddy,

549
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 7: I miss and Sandy, or my son will say the

550
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 7: same thing, I miss as Sandy.

551
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 5: I wish I met her. So that's definitely you know, it's.

552
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 7: Keeping her memory alive, and you know, passing it on

553
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 7: to my kids and making sure my kids understand. And

554
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 7: and my son is is very inquisitive.

555
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: He's a very smart boy, and he's he's.

556
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 7: Always asking questions, well, why why did this happen?

557
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 6: Daddy?

558
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 7: And you know, why do people do that? And you know,

559
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 7: it also gives me and my wife an opportunity to

560
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 7: educate both our kids on situations like this and and

561
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 7: to have them understand that this is not something we do.

562
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 7: If you see it happen, you want to step up

563
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 7: and put a stop to it. And then they both

564
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 7: know about the golf tournament.

565
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: Like you said, looking for that ray of sunshine, you know,

566
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 5: and looking for the light in the darkness and turning.

567
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 6: A good into a bad. And so we're.

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 7: Definitely having my children, you know, pass on the positive

569
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 7: from it's it's it's something we definitely look to do.

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00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: You know, Larry, can you tell us what the light

571
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: would be in your story? You know, as as Sandra's dad.

572
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: What last words could you leave us?

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00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 9: I don't know if there is a light for me

574
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 9: at the end of the tunnel. The light was getting

575
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 9: Sandy's case solved and putting her to risk. Maybe that's

576
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 9: what I came to this world for. I don't know,

577
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 9: But I really have no desire, if you will, to

578
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 9: have anything. I've done what I tended to do. Now

579
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 9: there's just a matter of living life and trying to

580
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 9: have our life, my wife and iyes as comfortable as possible.

581
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 9: As far as I'm concerned with me, there is no

582
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 9: light at the end of the tunnel that I did

583
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 9: what I wanted to do.

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00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 8: In my humble opinion, Larry, you are the light. That

585
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 8: is the light. Yeah, you are the light.

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00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: I know your your wife, and your son, Lawrence, and

587
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: your grandbabies, and Sandy knows you're the light. I definitely

588
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: want to say, from the absolute bottom of our hearts,

589
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: Mahalo Nuiloa, thank you so much for sharing your light,

590
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Sandy's light with us. I know it's not easy to

591
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: talk about, but I believe in moments that are supposed

592
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: to happen for a reason, and today, in this moment,

593
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: on Larry's eighty second.

594
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 8: Birthday, we were supposed to be here.

595
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: We were all supposed to be together and to share

596
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: Sandy's story, and we promise you we will not let

597
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: the world forget her.

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00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 9: Once Sandy's case was solved, I had agreed with the

599
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 9: Dateline at the time that I would give them the

600
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 9: full information I had, and they agreed not to publish here.

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00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 6: It built after the case was solved.

602
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 9: After the trial, beautiful, they held up to their agreement.

603
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 6: I held up to mine.

604
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 9: After that was done, I always bound and determined that's it.

605
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 9: I got what I did, what I wanted to do,

606
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 9: and I was not going to participate in any additional

607
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 9: broadcast which Oxygen Lawrence took over. I didn't participate in that,

608
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 9: so podcasts. I'm not familiar with it. Something told me

609
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 9: to go ahead and participate in it. So consider yourselves lucky.

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00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 8: We are.

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00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: We have to thank you from the bottom of our

612
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: hearts from being here. You got two new nieces and

613
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: learned to got a new cousin so or new two

614
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: cousins so well, we.

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00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 7: Welcome both the ENSA Ohanna.

616
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 6: I'd like to say any of you come to Kawaii,

617
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 6: is what they said.

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00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: Today's message of hope and healing goes out to the

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00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: memory of Santra Goddiss in this.

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00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 8: Story of absolute heartbreak.

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Speaker 2: We never want to lose sight of the person whose

622
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: light was lost way too soon to such tragedy.

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Speaker 3: Sandra was a beautiful, strong local girl with a strong

624
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: inner drive. Her father even said in grade school that

625
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: she had perfect attendance and was described as being a

626
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: teacher's pet. Also in high school, she ran track and

627
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: she danced.

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00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: Tula Sandy's Ohanna. Her family shared with us that she

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Speaker 2: was full of energy, she wanted to do everything all

630
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: at once, and she was a absolute go getter. Sandra

631
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: shined as a gymnast and she even had dreams of

632
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: becoming a journalist.

633
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: One day after she separated from her husband, she became

634
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: an assistant food and beverage manager at the Grand Hyatt

635
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: on Kawhi, where her co workers said that she was

636
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: a great manager and she would give her all to everyone.

637
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: Sandra would never become the journalist that she dreamt of being,

638
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: but at the time of her death, she was truly

639
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 2: coming into her own. She ended up getting married young,

640
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: and she had two beautiful children, and she was a

641
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: devoted mother. She was just finding out who she was

642
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: meant to be. And so today we want to honor

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00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: that bright light that was Sandy. Onward and upward, Emua Emua.

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00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,200
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