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Speaker 1: Oh, good time. Steve Taskers domes dost more times. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to arch Park, Welcome to One Bill's Live. We are

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Speaker 1: live in our Seneca studio, well right next door to

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Speaker 1: a new airfield, which, for the first time in a month,

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Speaker 1: will be quiet. Actually there's high school football there tonight.

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Speaker 1: What am I talking about? It's not gonna be quiet tonight,

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Speaker 1: but no NFL football there this weekend. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy. Chris Brown is with US, co hosting

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Speaker 1: today for Steve Tasker. Great to have you back here, Brownie.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. You got your own little spot over here.

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Speaker 1: Now your own your own seat. Let's go. I saw

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Speaker 1: a name plate over here. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: been fully installed yet, but good. Nice to have it

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Speaker 1: over here. It's like it's like, you know, when Corey

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Speaker 1: leg It comes in the new locker room name plate

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Speaker 1: comes in there, you go expect that. See. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Monday, and we're happy to have Chris here today.

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Speaker 1: We got a good show for you. Yeah, it's weird

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Speaker 1: night having a home game in a weird way. Chris,

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Speaker 1: you and I live parallel lives sometimes in this respect,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we follow this team go on the road,

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Speaker 1: go to the home games, right, I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: time for a road game, you know what I mean. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather be home. I'd rather not have to jump

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Speaker 1: this Bill's team as part of their growth process, they're

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Speaker 1: step forward to get back on the road. They haven't

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Speaker 1: been on the road of a month. Road has been

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Speaker 1: kind to them though. Two Yeah, three and o on

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Speaker 1: the road. You know, I think everybody's seen the stat

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Speaker 1: by this point in time, if they haven't. If the

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Speaker 1: Bills can find a way to beat the Browns on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: it's the first time they'll be four and o on

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Speaker 1: the road to start a season since sixty five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is AFL champion fifty five years perfect. Good lord man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow. So yeah, good on them if

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Speaker 1: they can pull it off this week. Because I don't

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Speaker 1: know why, I just I have this feeling in my

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Speaker 1: and tuck game. I mean, the Browns are backed into

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Speaker 1: know that's what you're going to get from them. Not

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Speaker 1: all that dissimilar to what the Bills saw from the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: a team that was kind of in a very little

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Speaker 1: margin for errortype situation and came out firing. I think

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Speaker 1: really have to weather the storm in that game, especially

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Speaker 1: do that. The Dolphins were desperate two, although they did

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Speaker 1: not have kind of the talent to back up their desperation.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles did have that talent. They were desperate, and

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Speaker 1: you're right here coming or here go. The Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: supposed to be a major deep into the playoffs contender

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Speaker 1: this year and instead there two and six. They finally

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Speaker 1: get to play at home. They played the third toughest

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Speaker 1: schedule in the NFL so far this year. They'll play

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Speaker 1: But Chris, you know, like me, and we talk about

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Speaker 1: tough with Seattle for most of that game. Now, they

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Speaker 1: lost that game at home a month ago, October thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: That was the Bills by weekend, but they were tough

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Speaker 1: And let me listen to see if you agree with this.

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham can take over a game. He hasn't none

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Speaker 1: you know, you hate to use the any given Sunday cliche,

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Speaker 1: And you have to go into that game expecting that,

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Speaker 1: The ability is there to take over a football game

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Speaker 1: a holdover from the previous regime that was failed, and

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Speaker 1: they have not established a culture. They have plenty of talent.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't deny that, but he said culture Trump's talent.

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Speaker 1: And to me, this Sunday is culture Bills versus talent Browns.

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Speaker 1: And I'm eager to see how this plays out. Now.

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Speaker 1: I will give you this culture, I think is a

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Speaker 1: a good culture, you stay with it, you develop it,

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Speaker 1: even the results this culture trump talent and when we

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Speaker 1: that's a very thoughtful answer. Culture does trump talent? I

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Speaker 1: because just because I mean, they're not mutually exclusive, right,

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Speaker 1: you can have culture and talent on your roster. And

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Speaker 1: we're saying they're devoid of talent um. But I think

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Speaker 1: to this point, we've seen the talent that the Browns

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Speaker 1: but I think the danger is always there. As I

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Speaker 1: but they all bought into the culture eventually, and that's

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Speaker 1: when they started winning. That's what's going to take. I

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Speaker 1: think you're dead on Gary. I do, and Chris. I

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Speaker 1: think Gary gets to a point where when you see

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Speaker 1: the Bills make signings, acquisitions, even Corey legit this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I won't speak for you.

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Speaker 1: But I often think to myself, what do they know

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Speaker 1: about Corey Legit that lesend to believe that he will

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Speaker 1: fit in here, Because I think that's really important to

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Speaker 1: being in mccammick and how much work must they have

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Speaker 1: to do to make sure that they're not bringing in

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Speaker 1: someone who can sabotage the culture or not go along

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Speaker 1: with the culture here. I think that's probably a primary

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Speaker 1: consideration for them when they even when they're plugging holes

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Speaker 1: like they're trying to do with Corey leegiate this. And

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing philosophically that's important is you

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Speaker 1: have to build the culture first before maybe you accumulate

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Speaker 1: the talent that will put you over the top ultimately.

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Speaker 1: And that's not to say you compromise on the kind

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Speaker 1: of talent that you want to bring in. It's just

448
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Speaker 1: I think it's important. And I think this is evident

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Speaker 1: in the way that Brandon being in Sean McDermott have

450
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Speaker 1: built this team is that they've made sure that they

451
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Speaker 1: had people with, as they say all the time, the

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Speaker 1: right DNA to fit into the way we operate here,

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Speaker 1: the way we do business every single day, the way

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Speaker 1: we prepare for every single opponent, whether it's week one

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Speaker 1: or week sixteen, whether we're six and two or two

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Speaker 1: and six, we want the people that are going to

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Speaker 1: still operate the same way every single day because that

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Speaker 1: will help us build our culture and get it fortified

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Speaker 1: to where it's an automatic. And you know, you talk

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Speaker 1: about culture and stuff. I'll give you another example, the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's think about all the players that we're

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Speaker 1: at the high end of the talent meter for them,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, Levion be Ben La Roethlisberger. They're operating without

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Speaker 1: all three of those components right now for one reason

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Speaker 1: or another, Roethlisberger due to injury. Obviously, They've won their

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Speaker 1: last three in a row. Why because the culture there

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Speaker 1: is so strong and fortified that even when sometimes they

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Speaker 1: are stripped of talent or devoid of talent due to

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Speaker 1: other circumstances like injury, they can persevere. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: they're going to the super Bowl, but there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of other franchises in this league that if you took

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Speaker 1: the best three players off of their team, they would

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Speaker 1: drop into a black hole, never to be seen again.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have won their last three games in a

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Speaker 1: row because there's there's a culture there that helps to

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Speaker 1: write the ship where even if they are devoid of

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Speaker 1: elite talent, they can persevere and press forward. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: to the level of success that they could with that

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Speaker 1: elite talent, but they can still have a measure of

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Speaker 1: success because of the culture that is in place there.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? It does make sense, and it's

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Speaker 1: a very very very good example going what's going on

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh this year our question of the day culture

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Speaker 1: versus Talent. Sean McDermott said it more than a year ago,

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Speaker 1: culture Trump's talent. And I think we've got culture versus

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Speaker 1: talent coming up here on Sunday in Cleveland with the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the Cleveland Browns. What do you think? Give

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Bills

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Speaker 1: Fan twelve to eighty three says it's going to be

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Speaker 1: even mix of both. With not a lot of talent

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Speaker 1: and great culture. You cannot win with tons of talent

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Speaker 1: and no culture. You may win some, but when the

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Speaker 1: chips are down, you won't fight back. I love the

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Speaker 1: way the Bills are doing it. Talented culture fits go Bills. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's good. I mean I remember talking Lorenzo Alexander at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season about how this team was

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Speaker 1: constructed and what it's poised for, and he said, look,

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Speaker 1: I played on a Washington team that had twelve Pro

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Speaker 1: bowlers on it and we didn't go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's an example of talent and no culture.

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Speaker 1: And where where is the Washington franchise gone for the

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Speaker 1: better part of the last ten years? Not very far.

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Speaker 1: And have they had talented players? They've had some of

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Speaker 1: the you could argue they've had some of the most

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Speaker 1: talented players in the league in the last last era,

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Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. I mean, run down the list,

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Speaker 1: Sean Taylor, Clinton Portis. I mean, it's a countless number

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Speaker 1: of players that have come through that franchise. But as

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Speaker 1: a as an organism, they have it one diddly pooh,

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Speaker 1: as Jim Mora once said, so like it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it matters, it matters. Yeah, let's hear from you about it.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it all day long. We will give

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Speaker 1: you a heads up. Once we go to MSG only,

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Speaker 1: the phone calls will be over. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to have something to say about this and you gotta

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Speaker 1: do it in the next do it now, do it now. Chris,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go out and check on the Bill's practice. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's gonna be a whole

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Speaker 1: lot to say with respect to the injury report because

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Speaker 1: everybody was practicing today in week ten. How about that? Good?

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Speaker 1: That's great. We'll talk about that. Chris will take a

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Speaker 1: break and do that. We've got Dustin Fox coming up.

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Speaker 1: He is a pregame post game host on the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns radio network. And we're just getting rolling on this

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Speaker 1: Friday afternoon. Chris is in for Steve Tasker. It's One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health Live from the Seneca

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Speaker 1: Studios Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: One Goal Sive. I'm John Murphy. Steve is off today.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown joins us throughout the day and on the

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Speaker 1: line with us right now to talk about the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: As a man who played defensive back here in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: for the Bills two thousand and seven. Two thousand and

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Speaker 1: eight also played a bit with the Browns. He is

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Speaker 1: a radio guy now the host of Bull and Fox

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Speaker 1: on ninety two three FM radio the fan in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: and the Browns pre and postgame host Dustin Fox on

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Speaker 1: the line with us. Hello, Dustin, John Murphy and Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Thanks coming on. We appreciate it. Hey, John's gonna be

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Speaker 1: with you. Hey, we've talked about this my co host here,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, about in the first half hour this game.

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Speaker 1: It's the most intriguing game I think the Bills have

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Speaker 1: played so far this year because we know how talented

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Speaker 1: the Browns are, and we've been talking about it today.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like a matchup of a really talented Cleveland

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Speaker 1: team against a Buffalo team without that kind of talent,

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Speaker 1: but Buffalo has like kind of a team culture that

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Speaker 1: maybe the Browns would appreciate. What do you make of

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Speaker 1: that comparison. I think it's the fairst assessment. I think that, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody thought the Browns would be sitting here

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Speaker 1: at two and six, Um, you know, halfway through the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people thought they'd be above

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Speaker 1: five hundred, you know, maybe they'd be sitting there like

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Speaker 1: like the Buffalo, you know, with six wins. But um,

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's assessment. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Browns really don't have that team chemistry and that's kind

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Speaker 1: of I think been the biggest problem with with this

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Speaker 1: club is just there's so much talent, and maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: too much talent, because they have not been able to

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Speaker 1: come together to you know, to win games. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's kind of been the biggest problem thus far. It's

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Speaker 1: not too late for that to happen this season, though,

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Speaker 1: is it. I mean they're approaching that point, but not yet. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is probably the game. I mean, like, if if

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Speaker 1: the Browns can't win this game, the season's probably over.

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Speaker 1: I kind of thought the season was over last weekend

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Speaker 1: when they couldn't be you know, Denver with the you know,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Allen, who nobody knew who the guy was before

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Speaker 1: the game. Um, But now, I mean they could turn

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Speaker 1: it around. I mean, this division is kind of wide open.

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Speaker 1: I Baltimore says, will get a little bit tougher here

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Speaker 1: as we go, But but no, I mean they would

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Speaker 1: need to win. Gosh, I don't know I mean at

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Speaker 1: least six of the last eight games probably to kind

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Speaker 1: of be in the mix, or maybe seven of the

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Speaker 1: last eight, which is which is not unheard of. But

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Speaker 1: the way they played, they're just they're they're not a

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Speaker 1: good team right now. Yeah, tell me. I don't just

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Speaker 1: want anyone to dump on coach Freddy Kitchens, But where

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Speaker 1: did he and his coaching staff? Not how much blame

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Speaker 1: I don't know about blame, but how much responsibility do

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Speaker 1: they have for this rough two and six start? I

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Speaker 1: think a lot. I mean for his young coach. I

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Speaker 1: don't blame him because you know, this is his opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he was necessarily ready for the job,

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Speaker 1: but he got it, and you know, it's been a

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Speaker 1: rough I mean, he has had a lot on his plate,

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Speaker 1: you know, being a first time head coach, first time

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Speaker 1: in play call. At the same time, I think there's

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Speaker 1: been so much that he has had to deal with

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Speaker 1: that it's been a lot, And you know, I do

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Speaker 1: think that they deserve some blames because the play calls

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Speaker 1: have been questionable and some of the things that they've

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Speaker 1: done with game management stuff have been you know, definitely questionable,

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Speaker 1: especially late in games. But I'm not ready to write

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Speaker 1: them off. I mean, like a lot of people here

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland just want with the Browns to just fire

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Speaker 1: him and move on, and I just think it's too

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Speaker 1: early for that. But I mean, listen, at some point

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Speaker 1: they'll have to have a conversation at the Browns. Let's

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Speaker 1: say the Browns go sixt and ten or something like that.

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Speaker 1: If that happens, then yeah, you have the conversation. But

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Speaker 1: I still think the Browns are going to rattle off

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Speaker 1: some winter. And one more question about coaching is that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is the main problem with the coaching Is it those

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Speaker 1: game management decisions, play calls included or is it bigger

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Speaker 1: than that, like failure to set a tone or failure

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Speaker 1: to create a culture even what do you think? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think he could be a little bit of both. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's a young coach, and I think sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know, players, coaches can be a little bit maybe

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Speaker 1: too friendly with the players and you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: let things happen in the locker room. I man, I've

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Speaker 1: had coaches like that in the past. They've had coaches

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Speaker 1: who are more discipline of disciplinarians, and those coaches tend

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Speaker 1: to kind of have more success frankly, but you know,

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Speaker 1: there's just at the young team. He's a young coach

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Speaker 1: and I think they're trying to figure it out right now,

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Speaker 1: which is it's a tough spot to be in for

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Speaker 1: him because he's never he's never done it before. This

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Speaker 1: is literally the first time he's ever been a head

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Speaker 1: coach ever, and he was only an offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: eight games last year. Right, and speaking an offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: I've I've heard it suggested that maybe the Browns and

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Speaker 1: Kitchens would benefit from letting the offensive coordinator it's todtmunkin right,

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Speaker 1: letting him call the plaice? Would that would that help?

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Speaker 1: That's well, that's been brought up, but that's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen. I mean, listen, they hired pretty Kitchens because

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Speaker 1: of the success he had last season the final eight

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Speaker 1: games with the Baker Mayfield and he called the plays,

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Speaker 1: and so that's kind of the reason they hired him.

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Speaker 1: For him to you know, pass off the playing dudes,

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Speaker 1: I think at this point would be a mistake. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost be like, you know, him kind

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Speaker 1: of kind of kind of waving the white flag to

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Speaker 1: this point, because that's not why he was hired. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was hired to the call plays. He was. He

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Speaker 1: was very created last year with some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: they did offensively with Baker Mayfield, and to this point

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Speaker 1: they kind of haven't really been able to get back

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Speaker 1: to that point. But but no, I think I'd be

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Speaker 1: a mistake. And Tom Unken talked about it yesterday. I

646
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Speaker 1: taught to listen. I'm I was hired here. I knew

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Speaker 1: my role and that's that was never ever on the

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Speaker 1: table around the line with Dustin Fox Farmer Bill's defensive back,

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Speaker 1: Farmer Brown's defensive back, hosts radio host in Cleveland, their

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Speaker 1: pre and postgame radio host, Hey, Dustin, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield for a minute. The drop of his numbers

652
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: is is pretty dramatic. But I'm thinking at that and

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: looking at Browns games and thinking he's more of a

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00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: reflection of the overall problems than he is maybe the

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Speaker 1: cause of it. What do you think? That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know exactly where or how the

657
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: pinpoint his lack of access season. I mean, he's the

658
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: worst quarterback in football, uh, statistically, and that just it

659
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Speaker 1: just really, you know, it kind of boggles my mind.

660
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Speaker 1: Because this is a guy that last season, you know,

661
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Brooke all these rookie passing records, Peyton Manning, Russell Wilson,

662
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Speaker 1: and was poised for a big season this year. So

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing John with with Baker at

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Speaker 1: this point, and this is kind of scary, is that

665
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: he lacks confidence and he doesn't really have the swagger

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Speaker 1: that he had last season that he had at Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: when he won the Hives And Trophy, And so I

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00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how he gets it back, but

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Speaker 1: he needs he needs to get back to kind of

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00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: being confident. He's not taking chances. He's being very conservative

671
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Speaker 1: with the football and frankly, I think he's overthinking things

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00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: and that's why he's turning the ball over so much.

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Speaker 1: How could they not be forcing the ball to Odell Beckham?

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Speaker 1: And do you anticipate to have a big part of

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Speaker 1: the game plan this week? I hope. So, I mean,

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00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: this is it's it's it's it's a it's a joke.

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00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean that this guy, he's one of the best

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Speaker 1: receivers in football, and they get in the red zone

679
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: and they act like he's not even on the field.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I was the offensive coordinator, or if

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Speaker 1: I was Daker Mayfield, I'd be looking like when it's thirteen,

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Speaker 1: I'm throwing to him no matter what and just trying

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Speaker 1: to give him a chance to make to make a play.

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Speaker 1: And they just haven't really done that at this point,

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Speaker 1: which I you know, listen, I mean, I'm talking five

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Speaker 1: hours a day on the radio. It's my fans and

687
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: our fans, I should say, and no one gets it.

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00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: I mean, they got to take some chances to give

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Speaker 1: Odell some shots to make some plays. And that's just

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Speaker 1: my mind count one of the many matchup problems to

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Speaker 1: Bill's face this week, including Nick Chubb. I mean, Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb is is a butterfied star in the making here

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Speaker 1: right in d yards rushing already. Yeah, he's a good player, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean he really is. What I believe it, you know,

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Speaker 1: should be the offense, I mean the offensive run through

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and then everything else is kind of kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, happens after that. I mean, should play

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Speaker 1: action pass. The brown should be a frankly a conservative team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when Baker Mayfield throws thirty five times or more,

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Speaker 1: they're too intent. That's his record. So the Browns should

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00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: be a definitely a more run oriented team. And they

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Speaker 1: get Kareem Hunt back this week too. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much he'll give him, but he'll be out there

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Speaker 1: on the field. He'll be there the third down back

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Speaker 1: this week, I'm sure. But but yeah, I mean, Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb is an absolute monster. I mean, this guy's for

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Speaker 1: a second season, is a beast. I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about one other player on offense before we moved

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Speaker 1: to the Browns defense, Dustin, and that's a guy who

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Speaker 1: would probably consider one of the steadying influences on that offense,

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Speaker 1: and that's the center JC Tretter. He's a Buffalo area

712
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: native Acro New York, went to Cornell Um. He's fitting

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Speaker 1: well there, hasn't he coming over from Green Bay a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Yeah, he really has. He's a

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Speaker 1: smart guy, obviously with the Cornell Ties, but but he's

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Speaker 1: he's been kind of that steady piece on the offensive

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Speaker 1: line and anybody who knows off line play knows the

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Speaker 1: center's kind of the quarterback of that group and they

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Speaker 1: have to kind of get everybody set and keep everybody

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Speaker 1: in line. And Jac has been great. You know, there

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00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: was some concern they were gonna like let him walk

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And the Browns draft drafted Austin Corbett, who

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Speaker 1: they just traded um in the second round last year,

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Speaker 1: and there was some thought that maybe he would end

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Speaker 1: up be in the center. But now that he's kind

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00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: of been been moves awesome. I think this is a great,

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00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: great move for the Browns. I mean, the offensive line

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Speaker 1: has been a little bit of a concern of the season,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they've got a couple couple of pieces up

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Speaker 1: there with j c U and Joel Patonia who are

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Speaker 1: are really really good players, and I'm just happy they

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Speaker 1: got JC backers. He's he's he's a really good leader too.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's he is a great guy, and the

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Speaker 1: team really responds to him. I asked you about Chub,

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Speaker 1: I asked you about Odell Now on the defensive side,

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Speaker 1: here's the other major matchup issue I see for the

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Speaker 1: Bills Miles Garrett that nobody's really done a great job

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Speaker 1: with him this year at Yeah, it had He's a

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Speaker 1: he's a beast man. I mean, that's that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: why you know when you're the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what you're supposed to be. And he's lived

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Speaker 1: up to it to this point. I mean, this guy

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Speaker 1: is a bona fide you know, the potential defensive player

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Speaker 1: of the year. I mean, that's how good he's been.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know the hobviously Buffalo will have their

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Speaker 1: hands every will shoot. Everyone's had their hands sol with

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Speaker 1: this guy through this season. Hey, I'm wondering, Dustin Olivier

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Speaker 1: Vernon you think he will play? He hasn't practiced much

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Speaker 1: this week, right, it doesn't sound like he's gonna go,

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Speaker 1: which is a concern because I mean's he's kind of been,

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Speaker 1: uh the guy that has kind of taken some heat

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Speaker 1: off of Garrett and allowed Garrett to make them plays.

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00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: So that that's a that's a big loss if you

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Speaker 1: can't go. But yeah, he has he has not been practicing.

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Speaker 1: And one final question for you about the atmosphere in

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Speaker 1: First Energy Stadium on Sunday. There will be Bills fans

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00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: there and are but Browns fans are among the most

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Speaker 1: loyal in the league. What do you think the atmosphere

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: will be like there? What it'll be like Sunday? Anxious? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll nervous energy, I'm sure because the fans know

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Speaker 1: that if they don't win this game and the season

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00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: is definitely over. Um, But I mean it'll be good.

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00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's this team was supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: lot better than they are, and I think fans are

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Speaker 1: just right now kind of like confused because they thought

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Speaker 1: that they'd be in contention to the playoffs like you

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00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: guys are. And it's just kind of disappointing. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see when the first quarter goes and its first quarter

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Speaker 1: goes well. I mean, the Browns played so well against

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Speaker 1: Baltimore a couple of weeks back that you know, fans

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: kind of expected that to happen all season. If they

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Speaker 1: can just kind of get back to that and be

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Speaker 1: a little bit more consistent, I think the energy will

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00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: be great. I think the Browns have a chance to

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Speaker 1: win the game. Listen, it's a three point spread. It's

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00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of a toss up game, so they could go

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00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: out go either way. I watched them go ahead ahead

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Speaker 1: with Seattle. I watch that game last night. I was like,

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00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: these guys are for real When they don't beat themselves

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00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: there for real, aren't they Well? But that's what they do.

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00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they have they legally and penalties and you know,

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00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: obviously the Baker Mayfield with you know, all his fourteen interceptions,

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00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: I mean are twelve interceptions. It's uh, it's it's it's bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just they can't find a way to

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Speaker 1: kind of get out of their own way. I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be really fun game. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you there. Dustin, thanks for being on with us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you got John. Thanks man, Dustin Fox. He's the

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Speaker 1: Browns pre postgame host, the host of Bull and Fox

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00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: on ninety two three The Fan in Cleveland played cornerback

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Speaker 1: here for a couple of years with the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: and we thank Dustin for joining us. Back with more

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Speaker 1: in a moment, including your tank. Does culture trump talent?

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Speaker 1: Does it mean more the long term? Or can it

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Speaker 1: even work on a week by weeks Sunday by Sunday basis,

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Speaker 1: let us know what you think. We're coming back with more.

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Speaker 1: back to the show, John Murphy. Chris Brown is in

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Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker. Today is back with us talking about

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game, Bills and the Cleveland Browns what do you think. Look,

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Speaker 1: John McDermott said it pretty famously about a year and

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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, Culture Trump's talent? Is

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Speaker 1: that true? Do you believe that? And how much do

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Speaker 1: you believe it? Our Twitter poll today deals with that.

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Speaker 1: We've got eight hundred thirty votes in already. What say you,

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Speaker 1: Culture Trump Talent? Give us some feedback. Forty eight percent

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Speaker 1: of you say not in the week to week NFL,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a very interesting answer. Thirty eight

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Speaker 1: percent of you you say yes all the time, culture

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Speaker 1: Trump's talent, fourteen percent say not at all. Let's hear

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Speaker 1: from you. A full line's open eight oh three h

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Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. We will get back to that. But

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Speaker 1: Chris is just back after a little media session with

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Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott following today's Friday practice. What did

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Speaker 1: you learn, Chris? I learned everybody he's pretty much healthy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was full go at practice, so even Kevin Johnson

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Speaker 1: and Kurt Coleman, who had been nursing injuries through the

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Speaker 1: early part of the week, full scale participants, all fifty

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Speaker 1: three players. We even asked coaches, is that a little

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Speaker 1: strange in week ten? He goes, yeah, a little bit,

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Speaker 1: he goes, but we're not complaining about it. And they

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Speaker 1: were outside on the grass because they know they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be on grass on Sunday, so it looked. He was

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Speaker 1: also asked about Cody Ford, knowing that Cody was dressed

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Speaker 1: last Sunday, but Ty and Secki went wire to wire

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Speaker 1: at right tackle and Ford only saw time on the

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Speaker 1: special teams units, you know, field goal, field goal block,

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Only got four snaps on special

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Speaker 1: teams last week. They said that was not any He said,

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Speaker 1: it was not any indication that Ty and Secki had

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Speaker 1: usurped him and taking the position away from him. He

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Speaker 1: said it was more a precautionary move. Knowing that Ford

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Speaker 1: was coming off of that elbow injury. They didn't want

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Speaker 1: to overwork him, so they got him another extra week arrest,

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Speaker 1: essentially by barely playing him in the game last week.

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Speaker 1: So now he is ready to roll. We were asked

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Speaker 1: if we asked him if the platoon was going to

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Speaker 1: continue there, and he said, we'll wait and see, but

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Speaker 1: he kind of gave indication that that was in fact

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Speaker 1: going to be the case going forward. He was then

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Speaker 1: asked about the potential Miles Garrett matchup, because Garrett does

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Speaker 1: switch from the right side to the left side through

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Speaker 1: the course of the game. He actually played more on

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Speaker 1: the left side, left defensive end for the Browns last

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Speaker 1: week against the Broncos, and he said, yeah, they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: be ready, or they have to be. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: their job. It's one of the key, if key matchup defensively. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure to worry about. Absolutely, So. Yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see who they decide to use more

852
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: of in the game, Like is it going to be

853
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: a strict fifty fifty split or do they feel one

854
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: of those guys is a better one on one matchup

855
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: against Myles Garrett. And I'm not even so sure that

856
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: either of those guys are gonna go one on one

857
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: against him in any capacity, just because of the dominant

858
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: player that he can be out there on the field.

859
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: Tight end help, chipping back, move, tight end help, you know,

860
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: any anything and anything I think is warranted to be

861
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: called up at any point in time against that guy.

862
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: On the injury issue, the Bill's likely to go into

863
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: this one with the clean injury report. Maybe spotless. Really,

864
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: The question came up in our control room Avid Bills

865
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: fans in there about what does that mean? Let me

866
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: just give an opinion, may I. I'm reluctant to start

867
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: patting anybody on the back just because I don't want

868
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: to tempt fate. Injuries happen out of nowhere. Sometimes it's

869
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: great that they're at mid season and they're likely to

870
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: have a clean injury report. What does it mean? Who

871
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: do we credit for that? Let me? Can I just

872
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: hold off for a few weeks before I start patting

873
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: people on the back? Sure, nobody's telling you to give

874
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: me your take. I have a feeling it's great that

875
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: they're that way, But who knows. Injuries happened all the time, right, Yeah,

876
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: when you least expect it. Yeah, there's a measure. I agree,

877
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: and I agree, there's a measure of luck with injuries,

878
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: especially in this sport. I was telling you before we

879
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: were on the air at the start of the show.

880
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Perfect example is Olivier Vernon last week against the Denver Broncos.

881
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: It's the third to last play of the game and

882
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: he's trying to make a hustle play to the backside

883
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: of the field and he's trying to run down I

884
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: think it was Philip Lindsay. I'm not one hundred percent

885
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: shore he's trying to run him down on a run

886
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: play late in the game because they're trying to get

887
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: the last first down to run out the clock and

888
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: win the game and they're only up by five. I

889
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: think he gets some friendly fire from a safety trying

890
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: to come up and make the same tackle. Their knees knock,

891
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: his leg gets twisted, and he's hobbling off with a

892
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: knee injury and might not play Sunday. So I mean,

893
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: that's just a freak thing that happens just because football

894
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: is a collision sport. I mean, it's just what it is.

895
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: So I do believe there is value in the sports

896
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: science element load management and alerting coaches athletic trainers that

897
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: the load on this guy's muscles has been extreme the

898
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: last two or three days. We have to back off

899
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: his reps in practice so we don't enhance the risk

900
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: of injury due to fatigue. YEP, I do believe there's

901
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: value in the state of the art training facility. Percent

902
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: agree with that as well. And I think those things,

903
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: as coach likes to say, are baked into the overall

904
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: health of this roster. But that doesn't mean some guy

905
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: on the first play from scrimmage on Sunday, Mike twist

906
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: Is need the wrong way and be out for the

907
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: rest of the game. Right. But I think if there

908
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: are any places in injury prevention where you can gain

909
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: an edge, you take it because of the nature at

910
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: this point, and they've done that. All right, We got

911
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: a break here. Great co Sell is going to join

912
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: us when we return from NFL films and from the

913
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: NFL Matchup Show on ESPN his weekly breakdown of the Bills,

914
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: their opponents, and the rest of the NFL, and come

915
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: on back for that. Chris is here with us all

916
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: day long until three o'clock one goes live presented by

917
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: Kalaida Health Live from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo

918
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Hills Radio Network Sports Day. So the second

919
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: half of the season begins Sunday with Buffalo on the

920
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: road against the Cleveland Browns. Bills likely to win with

921
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: a clean injury report. Everybody practicing on a full go

922
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: basis going into today. The Browns have some injury issues, however,

923
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: defensive end Olivia Vernon has been ruled out with a knee,

924
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: as has backup safety Eric Murray. Defensive end Miles Garrett

925
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: going to be listed as questionable with a knee, although

926
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: he did have a practice on a full go basis.

927
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Today been a rough road to two and sixth with

928
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: the Browns preseason darlings considered to be a serious contender.

929
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: They've still got half a season to make a run.

930
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: Three of Buffalo's next four games around the road. The

931
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: Bills are three and o on the road so far,

932
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: looking to win their first four road game for just

933
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: the third time in franchise history. Sunday's weather in Cleveland

934
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: calls for mostly cloudy skies high around fifty. We got

935
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: the broadcast right here on our flagship radio station, WGR

936
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: Sports Radio PI fifty. I'll be in the booth with

937
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: Eric Wood. Sal Capacho will be on the sidelines on Sunday.

938
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: The Browns are keeping center JC Treder around for a while.

939
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: He's agreed to a three year contract extension. We're thirty

940
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars more than twenty three

941
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Trader is a native of Acroa, New York,

942
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: and played his college football at Cornell Browns running back

943
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: Kareem Humps and he's had a lot of time to

944
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: sit and reflect and think about his eight game suspension,

945
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: which will end Sunday against the Bills. Is eligible to

946
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: play again after serving that suspension in the league's Personal

947
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: conduct policy. Last night, Thursday Night Put Football, the Oakland

948
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: Raiders beat Los Angeles Chargers twenty six twenty four, Oakland

949
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Rooking running back Josh Jacob scoring the winning touchdown on

950
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: an eighteen yard run with just over a minute remaining.

951
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, back in the New Orleans Saints line up Sunday,

952
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: says he plans to play like he has not missed

953
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: a beat. He's missed the last two games before their

954
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: Week nine by with knee and ankle injuries, but he

955
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: is ready to go. Washington has put offensive lineman Trent

956
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Williams on the reserve non football injury list, which ends

957
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: his season. Ends a month long saga involving the star

958
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Sources say the Redskins are likely to try

959
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: to trade him and the Sabers now just about an

960
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: hour away from another game. They play two o'clock this afternoon,

961
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: and Stockholm, Sweden against Tampa Bay their first game since

962
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: last Saturday. And there you go. The update from one

963
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Bill's practice is over. John Murphy with Chris Brown.

964
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: Chris is in in place of Steve Tasker today. Steve

965
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: should be back with us on Monday. Joining us on

966
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: the line right now our regular Friday afternoon one o'clock guests.

967
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Executive producer analyst of NFL Matchup on ESPN, Senior producer

968
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: at NFL Films, Greg cose Hi, Greg, John Murphy, and

969
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: Chris up here in Buffalo. Thanks coming on. We appreciate it. MURV, Chris,

970
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: how you guys doing today? Great? I can't wait for

971
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Greg, I gotta tell you, I see matchup

972
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: issues that the Browns present, not just for the Bills obviously,

973
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: but for everybody they play. Now they've only got two wins,

974
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: but they got to create headaches. I would think getting

975
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: ready for them, well, I think when you look at

976
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: their offense, and you certainly look at their wide receiver corps,

977
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: you feel that it's a very tough matchup. I would

978
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: expect your Davious White to shadow Odell Beckham because they've

979
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: been using White that way. Look, he's shadowed McLaurin last week,

980
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: But clearly with the receivers they can put out there,

981
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: particularly when they go with eleven personnel and put three

982
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: wide receivers on the field, Beckham, Landry and Callaway, that's

983
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: a receiving trio with every dimension you could ask for.

984
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: And they've certainly got a very good run game with

985
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Nick Chubbs, so it's actually an offense with a lot

986
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: of talent. Their old line has been a bit of

987
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: an issue. It's been in concert this year, and I

988
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: think that's factored into to Mayfield not quite quite being

989
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: as comfortable as we thought he might be when the

990
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: season started. I know Murph has I did as well.

991
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: We listened to Freddie Kitchens Monday press conference, you know,

992
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: the post mortem on their loss at Denver, and I

993
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: think he said the word execution twenty three times in

994
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: the press conference. Great coach speak, well, right, but how

995
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: right is he with that? And I know Mayfield is

996
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: the trigger man, but do you see execution execution issues

997
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: elsewhere from what you've seen from them on tape of

998
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: late Well, I think execution, Chris, is one of those

999
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: words that could mean a number of things, and it's

1000
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: a catch all phrase, certainly when you're talking to the media.

1001
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: You know, I think this is a team that has

1002
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: struggled clearly on third down. They're among the worst third

1003
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: down conversion teams in the league. They've struggled in the

1004
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: red zone. Now, coaches in those two areas will always

1005
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: use the word execution because they do feel that their

1006
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: schemes are positive and our good schemes, and therefore the

1007
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: execution of those schemes is what's causing the problem. But

1008
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I would say that their old line has continued to

1009
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: struggle in pass protection. Too many one on one matchups

1010
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: in which different old alignment got beat, too many assignment breakdowns.

1011
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: I think that's led to Mayfield playing a little fast

1012
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: this year. Although I actually thought Mayfield through the ball

1013
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: well in the last game. He was aggressive at times,

1014
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: turning a loose, which is kind of his mo He

1015
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: was a little more accurate than he had been in

1016
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: recent weeks, and we still missed a few things by

1017
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: turning it loose and not pulling the trigger. And they

1018
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: don't have a margin for error right right now because

1019
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: they're not executing at a consistent and a high level

1020
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: throughout a game, so their margin for error is very low.

1021
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: And I thought Mayfield missed a big play opportunity that

1022
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: could have been a touchdown early in the third quarter

1023
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: when he had Beckham wide open on a deep over

1024
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: or deep crossing route. For whatever reason, he never even

1025
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: looked at him and it was a shot play. So

1026
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: to me, he should have looked at him. I think, Greg,

1027
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: do you mean when you say Mayfield the plays fast sometimes?

1028
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: What does that refer to? You can almost see it

1029
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: just watching a game when you can see the feet

1030
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: moving a little too fast, a little frenetic in his

1031
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: body demeanor, not hitting that back foot and settling into

1032
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: the pocket. You can just see by his movements that

1033
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: he's he's playing at a at a tempo that's a

1034
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: little too fast. Think about the really good quarterbacks, how

1035
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: comfortable they look, Murph. When you watch the bradies, the

1036
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: breeze guys who drop back and everything appears that it's

1037
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: moving slowly. Mayfield is playing a little frenetically at times.

1038
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I want to flip it around, Greg with you know

1039
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: the reports that Olivier Vernon is out for them, good

1040
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: edge defender and against the run and the pass. How

1041
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: might that help Buffalo's chances, especially with some of that

1042
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: outside zone that they run with Devin Singletary. Yeah, I

1043
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: mean I'm not sure exactly who will they will play

1044
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: to out there instead of Earn and who's who's the

1045
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: guy Chris that they're likely to play well. I mean,

1046
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: you have Chris Smith there as his backup on the

1047
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: depth chart, and then Chad Thomas also plays in for them,

1048
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: the rookie, right, he's the rookie you guys think from Miami,

1049
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: I believe um. Yeah, I mean that's that's a loss, right,

1050
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: what's that? That's a loss for them for sure in

1051
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: terms of the I mean their thirtieth against the run

1052
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: to begin with. Now they don't have him. Yeah, that's

1053
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: a downgrade for sure. And you know, it's kind of

1054
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: surprising to me how poor they've been against the run,

1055
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: given that they have good personnel upfront, because they have

1056
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson as their three technique. They have Ogen Joby,

1057
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: who I think is a good player. So I just

1058
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: I've been surprised by their inability to play the run.

1059
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: I think Shobert shows up the linebacker, the mic linebacker

1060
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: shows up on tape every time I watch them play,

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Speaker 1: So I'm kind of surprised that their run defense has

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Speaker 1: not been more stout. Now. One thing you'll see a

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Speaker 1: lot of which they've been doing, is they play with

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Speaker 1: what we call big. When the Bills line up with

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Speaker 1: two tight ends on the field, they'll play with three

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Speaker 1: safeties the Browns, and that's kind of been their base

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Speaker 1: defense versus twelve personnel with Greg Cosell, he's executive producer

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Speaker 1: and analyst of NFL Matchup on ESPN. You can catch

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Speaker 1: that show tomorrow morning seven am on ESPN two Sunday

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Speaker 1: four am, six thirty am on ESPN. Let's flip it

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Speaker 1: over to the Bills for a second, Greg, I wonder

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering your observations on Devin Singletary game against Watchington

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00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: one hundred forty total yards for him, involved heavily in

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00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: the past game and the run game. What did you

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00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: see from him? And where do you see his first

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00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: year going from here? You know, it's amazing, Murph. I

1077
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Speaker 1: kind of figured you might ask me about Devin Singletary.

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00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: You know, Gibberdad, he played forty one snaps and carry

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Speaker 1: twenty times. I took a while to get there, you know.

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Speaker 1: I like Singletarry and it's funny because they really feature

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00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: three runs with Singletary. They feature two specific perimeter runs.

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00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: One was a toss playoff the jet action that went

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00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: opposite with the center and the tackle pulling. One was

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00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: kind of an outside zone pin poll concept with the

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00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: center and the guard pulling and the jet action going

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00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: to the same side as the run. So they featured

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Speaker 1: two specific perimeter runs with him plus inside zone. And

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00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I think those outside runs, if they can clear the

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Speaker 1: edge for Singletary, I think he's got a lot of juice.

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Speaker 1: I like Singletary quite a bit, And you know, I

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00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: think I don't know if this was sort of the

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00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: the changing of the guard, but clearly he played over

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00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: forty snaps and Gore was at about twenty snaps. Gore

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Speaker 1: did have eleven carries. The way the game played out,

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Speaker 1: obviously they just continued to run the football. But I'd

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00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: be real curious to see Murph. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: what your sense of it is if this is sort

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Speaker 1: of the day that we remember is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the changing of the guard. Yeah, you might be

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Speaker 1: out of with respect to Singletary, Greg, just from your

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Speaker 1: observations of him on tape, and I know it's a

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Speaker 1: somewhat limited sample size with him in a Bill's uniform.

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00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: But his patience as a runner to run behind the

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Speaker 1: men that are in front of him. You know, oftentimes

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Speaker 1: we'll see a rookie running back not be patient. They'll

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00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: see a track and try to exploit it. What is

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Speaker 1: your assessment of him in terms of patience as a runner. Well,

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00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: one of the things I think that that those outside

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: perimeter plays do is they almost demand patients because obviously

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Speaker 1: you're running laterally initially, so uh, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: those are good runs for him. The inside zone is

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00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: it does require patients because you can't just run it

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: up in there. You have to let something happen up

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Speaker 1: front in front of you. So I don't really see

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00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: an issue with his patients. But that's my sense of it.

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00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: You know. The other factor is he's a really good receiver,

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00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: and I think he gives them some opportunities. We know

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00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: about the screen, but they but they also missed him.

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00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't a misper se. I mean, Alan didn't make

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Speaker 1: a bad throw, but he had a move when they

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00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: ran that what I call all go eight seam where

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00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: he runs the vertical seam from the half back position

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Speaker 1: in the backfield where he's off set I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: remember the play. It hit the defender. I believe in

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Speaker 1: the helmet, and yeah, he can do that as well.

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Speaker 1: In other words, he's not just a screen back or

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00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: a checkdown back. I think he gives you some intermediate

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Speaker 1: and vertical dimension in the past game as well. Hey, Greg,

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Speaker 1: going back to the Browns for a minute, and they're

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Speaker 1: young running back Nick Chubb maybe under the radar for

1131
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: many NFL fans, but this guy's very talented and presents

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Speaker 1: a pretty big challenge for the Bills. How's that matchup

1133
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: look for Buffalo? Oh? I like Chubb a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a decisive downhill runner. He's got really good vision,

1135
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: he's got great short area burst, he's explosive, he can

1136
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Speaker 1: move the pile. I think he's really at his best

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Speaker 1: running inside, although they have used him at times on

1138
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Speaker 1: perimeter runs, but I think he's best on inside zone,

1139
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: on gap scheme concepts. Although as I said, I think

1140
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Speaker 1: his skill set allows him to be effective in all

1141
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: run concepts. They've been giving him the ball a bit

1142
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: more at twenty his last week only sixty five yards,

1143
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: but you're seeing him right here, and I remember this

1144
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: run extremely well. He showed about a tenth gear on

1145
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: this run. So he showed some real speed, long speed

1146
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: on this run. And he's a load to handle. He

1147
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: had some really good runs against the Patriots a few

1148
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's a tough assignment. Now what about and

1149
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: I haven't I'm gonna be honest here, I haven't watched

1150
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: enough of their games. But last week against Denver they

1151
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: had him in some I formation with a fullback. Have

1152
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: they have they turned to that often? Or is that?

1153
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: Was that a new wrinkle for them last week? I

1154
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: don't think they've done a ton of it, Chris, that

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00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: I can recall. You know. My guess is they're trying

1156
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Speaker 1: to find some stability and continuity to their offense. And

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00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: normally when teams are trying to do that, they look

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Speaker 1: to the run game. Normally, the pass game is not

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Speaker 1: what gives you stability and continuity. Normally it's the run game.

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Speaker 1: And I think that they'll now again, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: think the player they used as a fullback was a

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Speaker 1: tie end if I'm not mistaken. Fullback, yes, but I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong on that. I think they often play

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00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: devolved back there seth devolve, so it's usually a tight end.

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Speaker 1: But they do line up in the eye formation, both

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Speaker 1: a straight eye and the offset eye. Well, I have

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Speaker 1: one more question for you about this Sunday Bills Browns matchup, Gregan.

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Speaker 1: It's back to the Browns for a second. As a

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Speaker 1: talent evaluator, a guy who digs deep into the tape,

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Speaker 1: what do you do with the team that clearly has

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Speaker 1: all that talent and underperforms. How do you evaluate that?

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Speaker 1: How can you predict what the Browns might do when

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Speaker 1: you see a team that doesn't really match up to

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Speaker 1: the players they put on the field. Oh, well, we've

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Speaker 1: seen that many times throughout the NFL. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: a hard question to answer because you know you're not

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Speaker 1: there every day. But it's it's clearly a talented team, Murph.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's any given game, and you

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Speaker 1: sure hope it's not this week from your perspective, But

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Speaker 1: in any given game, Mayfield can be really sharp. Beckham

1181
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: can go set Evan for one fifty. You know, Landry

1182
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: at his best is as good as slot receiver as

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: there is. Calloway gives you another explosive dimension on the

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: other side. So they've got weapons. Why it's not working?

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00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: You know, again, you can come back to the execution element.

1186
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure if people study it, probably hot even harder

1187
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: than I do because I'm trying to watch many, many

1188
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: games every week. There may be other factors, but there's

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Speaker 1: something that's not in sync with their offense, particularly with

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Speaker 1: the pass game. I think they've run the ball at

1191
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: times pretty well, but with the pass games, it's been

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00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: somewhat condensed. They haven't had many explosive pass plays, which

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Speaker 1: is something we expected. Yeah, we know. John Brown has

1194
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: been very consistent for the Bills passing game. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: for a for a somewhat of a thumbnail sketch on

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Speaker 1: the two corners for Cleveland. You know, Denzel Ward and

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Speaker 1: the rookie Greedy Williams. I know Williams. Yeah, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: Ward's been overpowered Word at times because he's not a

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Speaker 1: big corner, you know, especially in some of those jump

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Speaker 1: ball situations. We saw Courtland Sutton reach over him and

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Speaker 1: pull a touchdown in last week against Denver. But how

1202
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Speaker 1: have those two fared? And have has Cleveland employed wanted

1203
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Speaker 1: them to travel with a top receiver at times this year? No,

1204
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Speaker 1: they really haven't. I mean they've only been together recently

1205
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Speaker 1: because Williams was hurt quite a bit. Ward was hurt

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Speaker 1: earlier in the year. So right now they've only played

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Speaker 1: I think together for Chris maybe two games if I'm

1208
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Speaker 1: not mistaken. But Ward plays left corner, Williams plays right corner,

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Speaker 1: and they're both very, very talented. Ward got beat obviously

1210
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Speaker 1: on that contested catch touchdown. He actually had very good coverage.

1211
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Speaker 1: He's just not as big a man as Sutton. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they went after him a couple of times as well.

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Speaker 1: Sutton caught a nineteen yards slam against him where he

1214
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Speaker 1: ran a great, great route and got Ward turned around

1215
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Speaker 1: from press man position. I think Ward's comfortable playing press man.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably his Humpford zone. He's just small.

1217
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Speaker 1: That was a concern for a lot of people. He was.

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Speaker 1: I think he was one hundred and eighty maybe one

1219
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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety pounds in most at the scouting combine

1220
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Speaker 1: and an eyeball he doesn't look and even looking at

1221
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Speaker 1: him eyeball wise, Greg, sorry to interrupt, even looking at

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Speaker 1: him eyeball wise, you always almost wonder is he won eighty.

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Speaker 1: I mean he looks he looks spindily, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I would agree I would agree. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know that that was why for some people he

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Speaker 1: was not a fourth pick in the draft, um even

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Speaker 1: though they liked his skill set. Greedy Williams is a

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: different player. He's long, he's lean, he's athletic. I think

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Speaker 1: he needs a lot of technique work. I thought he

1230
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Speaker 1: needed that at LSU. He's a young player without a

1231
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: lot of experience. So they're counting on Chris those two

1232
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Speaker 1: corners to develop, and in their mind they're not there yet,

1233
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: but in their mind essentially have two shutdown corners. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with Greg go sound executive producer analysts of NFL Matchup,

1235
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Speaker 1: Senior producer NFL Films. Let's get you around the rest

1236
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Speaker 1: of the league a little bit. Greg and the Baltimore

1237
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: Ravens and Bills have them a month away, December eighth.

1238
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: They'll be here in Buffalo. Do you think by then

1239
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: someone will have figured out what to do with Lamar

1240
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: Jackson the Patriots in the many answers last week, You know,

1241
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it'll happen this year, but it

1242
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: will happen. You know. It reminds me a lot of

1243
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: when Greg Roman was the OC in San Francisco with

1244
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. You know, I think that what was most

1245
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: fascinating about them beating the Patriots was they did it

1246
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: really without much of a passing game. They were able

1247
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Speaker 1: to use their very multiple run game, which obviously includes

1248
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: Jackson and almost put up They put up thirty offensive

1249
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: points essentially without the pass game being a big factor

1250
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: in the game. And I think if you told me

1251
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: that before the game Earth, I would have said there

1252
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: was no way that was going to happen. The Raiders

1253
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: were a nice win over the Chargers. Granted they got

1254
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: spotted some points there with a couple of Philip Rivers

1255
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: interceptions last night. But you think Josh Jacobs is putting

1256
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: himself in firm contention for offensive Rookie of the Year

1257
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: with the season he's put together here. Oh, I love

1258
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. Chris, I would say, right now, I see

1259
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: him as a top five back in the league right now.

1260
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: I think his combination of traits and his overall skill

1261
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: set is really really good. He's a power runner, he's

1262
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: an elusive runner, he's got stop and start ability, he's shifty.

1263
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: There's nothing he can't do. He's a good receiver, and

1264
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: I think we'll see more of that as he plays more.

1265
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: He's tough. I mean I remember watching him make blocks

1266
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: at Alabama and he just went wow. I mean, he

1267
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: goes after it pretty good. So I mean, to me,

1268
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Speaker 1: I know he's a rookie. I think he's on pace

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Speaker 1: probably for two hundred seventy two hundred eighty carries, which

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Speaker 1: is an awful lot for a rookie. But I think

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Speaker 1: to me, he's a top five back in the league

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Speaker 1: right now. Great, the Monday Night game is pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: solid this week to seven and two Seahawks with their

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Speaker 1: really good defense and the eight and o nine Ers

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Speaker 1: with their great defense. Maybe the best matchup of the week.

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Speaker 1: I would think Monday Night Football, huh yeah. We're devoting

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Speaker 1: a full segment to it in the Matchup show, and

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01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of elements to this game. I think

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense has struggled a bit. I think they're

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Speaker 1: trying to find ways to be better. So last week

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Speaker 1: against the Bucks, we saw them blitz more than they

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Speaker 1: normally do. They played a good amount of man coverage

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01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: and they still struggled. So I think they're trying to

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: find their way defensively. Offensively, we know what the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: are they'll start with the run game with Chris Carson,

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Speaker 1: and then of course they have Russell Wilson, who's been

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Speaker 1: very very good both from the pocket within the structure

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Speaker 1: of the offense, and we know that he's very very

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Speaker 1: good outside the structure of the offense. I wonder, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I just talk about Russell Wilson for a minute, if

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Speaker 1: you would, And in this sense, I love the way

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Speaker 1: his career has sort of morphed, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: He's a different passer now, a different player now than

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01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: he was when he came into the league. And I

1295
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: know he's been around for a while, but I love

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01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: to see guys who develop and become different players. I

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Speaker 1: think Wilson has done that, hasn't he Well, I think

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Speaker 1: he's the same as he's been at least the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Murph. You know, people say, wegee, he's

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01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: having his best year Ever's what's different. I don't think

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01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: he's really different. I think they have better weapons on

1302
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: the perimeter now that they have Metcalf. They have another

1303
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: explosive outside weapon that can present and provide big plays

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: for him along with Tyler Lockett. So that gives him

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01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: another weapon. And here you see Metcalf, who's kind of

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01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: a freak. I mean he's six four, two hundred twenty

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: eight pounds. So now they've been able to be a

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: little more explosive in their structured pass game. And we

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01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: know how good Wilson is when he moves as we're

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Speaker 1: seeing here. I mean, he just has an ability. He

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01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: has an ability to do something guys that you would

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01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: never teach anybody and would be viewed as a cardinal

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01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: sin of quarterback play. But he can do it. And

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01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: that's he can drop his eyes, look at the rush,

1315
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: move around and refocus downfield. You never tell quarterbacks to

1316
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: drop their eyes and look at the rush, but he

1317
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: has a unique knack to be able to do that,

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Speaker 1: refocus and make great throws. The other intriguing matchup for me,

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: Greg is Green Bay Carolina. You know, two teams firmly

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Speaker 1: and content in the NFC. I know Green Bay is

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01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: not a good run defense statistically. How big a task

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01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: is Christian McCaffrey going to be for them? You know,

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01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: I know he's a little nicked up, but I mean

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01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: it looks like he's gonna play. So what do you

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01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: see there in terms of that matchup? Are they going

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01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: to be able to slow McCaffrey down. Nobody else has.

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Speaker 1: It seems not only Tampa Bay, to be honest with you, Chris,

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: the two games against Tampa Bay he rushed for under

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01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: forty yards, but no one else has. And he leads

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Speaker 1: the NFL and carries per game, the only back carrying

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: the ball twenty or more times per game. I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to have to be a big factor. They've

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Speaker 1: got a multiple run game. The big question for me

1334
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: is what the Panthers do from a personnel perspective on offense,

1335
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: because the one thing about Mike Petton, the decoordinator for

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: the Packers, is he really likes to play in the

1337
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: sub packages, meaning Nickel with five defensive backs and Dime

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01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: with six defensive backs. And when Carolina liigns up with

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01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: two tight ends or a fullback, is Mike Petton going

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: to stay with the little people or will he put

1341
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: more big people on the field. Greg one final point

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Speaker 1: about McCaffrey ye a tremendous receiver both offset in the

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01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: backfield and detached from the formation. We saw him for

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Speaker 1: the two joint practices that the Bills had with the

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Speaker 1: Panthers back in August. Down there in Spartanburg, Greg, I

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01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: gotta tell you there was nobody that could run with him.

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01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: He was just so much quicker and faster, just a

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01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: short area quickness was just mind blowing. And I mean

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01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: the Bills are like a top five defense. They had

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01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: nobody that could hang with He was catching like ten

1351
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: twelve passes every practice. It was crazy. No, he's he's

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01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: a terrific player. I mean, he's another guy. You know,

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned Josh Jacobs. McCaffrey has obviously played longer and

1354
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: he would be better than Jacobs at this point. Clearly

1355
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: he's a top three back in the league without question.

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Speaker 1: Hey Greg, thanks for this, good talking with you. Will

1357
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: we will discuss again next Friday. We appreciate it, all right, guys,

1358
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get another Bills win. Yeah, we'll see every

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: week head right now. Greg Cosal is a producer analyst

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01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: NFL Matchup senior producer NFL Films. You can see the

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01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: show NFL Matchup on ESPN. You gotta probably want to

1362
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: roll your DVR tomorrow seventy am on ESPN two. Although

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: you told me last week you're up for that. I'll

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: probably get up and watch that tomorrow. Yeah, I caught.

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: I missed the first five minutes, so I caught most

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: of it though, And I just I mean, well, I've

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01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: always liked Matt, you know, even from the time when

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 1: he was here briefly as a player. You gotta like

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: Greg just a good X as an OS guy. And yeah,

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he pours over the tape co selles, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are film junkies, and it's just

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Speaker 1: nice to have them shuck it down to the cob

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: for you where you don't have to do all the work.

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01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: They kind of do it for you, you know what

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01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: I mean. It's just kind of good way to kind

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01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: of get a handle on what the rest of the

1377
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: league is running, because you know, we suffer from Bill's

1378
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: myopia here, so it's nice to kind of get a

1379
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: handle on what the rest of the league is turning

1380
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: to running. Employing scheme wise to kind of have answers

1381
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: every week. NFL matchup Tomorrow seven am on ESPN. Two

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: Sunday four am, six thirty am on ESPN. And we

1383
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: thank great co sal for joining us with that. All right,

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We are cutting loose from

1385
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: radio side for Sabers pregame show coming up. We will

1386
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: remain on the television side and MSG, so stick around

1387
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: for that. We'll discuss more our topic of the day,

1388
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: Does culture trump talent? You can weigh in on that,

1389
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: send in tweets if we want to talk about that.

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01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: We're back with Morning A Moment One. Bill's Live from

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio on Archard Park and this is Buffalo

1392
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. A lot of that, John Murf, you're Chris Brown.

1393
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: Chris has adopted the Steve Tasker strategy of seeing really

1394
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: funny things during the break. Steve does a good job

1395
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, doesn't get it in the show though, Well,

1396
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not appropriate for the show. We could have

1397
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: done that. I guess. Let's hear from you on twit.

1398
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 1: We're just on the on the TV side now. Welcome

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Speaker 1: MSG viewers, Happy to have you with us here today.

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01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: UM and the Bill's injury report is just out and

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: everybody's good to go. Yeah. I can't recall the last

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01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: time I saw that. Full practice today for Kirk Coleman,

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: full practice today for UM, Kevin Johnson. Everybody's good to go.

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: Nobody is listened as questionable, beautiful thing. Yeah. Interesting, They

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01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: still have doubtful, no, and no problem. Yeah, it's out questionable.

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: That's it. Good, You're good to go. That's interesting. We

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: hope to get an official Brown's injury report as the

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: afternoon goes along. Mary Kay Cabot from Cleveland reports that

1409
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: defensive end Olivia Vernon is out with a knee and

1410
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: backup safety Eric Murray is out as well with an injury.

1411
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: But we'll see hey in. You can interact with us

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: via Twitter today on the tweet sheet this Culture Trump talent.

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Speaker 1: That was our Twitter poll today, and let's recap how

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Speaker 1: that's looking so far, this Culture Trump talent. Here's the background.

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: You know, you may recall Sean McDermott said this about

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, right, wasn't it before

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01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,440
Speaker 1: last season? He said, Culture Trump's Talents? And it was offseason.

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: It was offseason. It was maybe prior to the draft.

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: Does remember if it was at the combine or at

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: the owner's meetings in March and people talked about it

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot. We got a couple of shows out of

1422
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: it for good reason. It's an interesting concept. And let's

1423
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: not forget what Brandon Bean has said time and time again.

1424
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to accumulate talent. I'm trying to build

1425
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 1: a team, right and I think that runs in lockstep

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Speaker 1: with what coach McDermott said. Yes, so does culture trump talent.

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Speaker 1: That's our poll on Twitter. We got a thousand votes

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Speaker 1: in right now and on Twitter, forty seven percent of

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01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: you say you know, not all the time, not in

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Speaker 1: the week to week NFL, and I appreciate that. I

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: think I almost agree with that. It's a tough question though.

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine percent say yes, all the time, culture trump's talent.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen percent say Nope, not at all. It does not

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Speaker 1: trump talent. You may have an opinion on this. It

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: comes up this week because we've got basically, and I

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01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: hate to be simply stick about it, but what boils

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: down to in essentially a culture team against a talented team.

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Speaker 1: The Browns are very talented. You just heard Greg Cosal

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: talk about that. You know at length, all the different

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: players they can put on the field, all the different

1441
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: matchups they can dictate and and maybe make hay with.

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01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: And yet here you got the six and two Buffalo team,

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01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: which has talent, no question, but is more of a

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01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: team concept, I think, And that's why I find one

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01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: of the many reasons why I find this would be

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01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: a very interesting game on Sunday. Yeah. I mean, you

1447
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: can look at Buffalo's defense and sure there are standout

1448
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: players on that side of the ball, But you know,

1449
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: is there one quintessential lynchpin player on defense? Would you say,

1450
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: Like I know, Tredavious White is probably a name that

1451
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: would probably be one of the first you would mention

1452
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: when you're looking for the most talented players on that

1453
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: side of the ball. But you could just as easily

1454
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: mention Jordan Poyer. You could just as easily mention Micah Hyde.

1455
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: Some people would you know, be inclined to even throw

1456
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds into the mix, even though I don't think

1457
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: he's reached his peak by any But the point being,

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01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: there's there's quality players across the board, but I don't

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: think there's one quintessential player that is the identity of

1460
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Speaker 1: the Bill's defense. And I think it speaks to the

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Speaker 1: team culture that they have. It's a team defense, and

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Speaker 1: yet it's in the top five, you know, And I

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Speaker 1: think the Browns have Pro Bowl caliber players, you know,

1464
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: perennial Pro Bowl player in a Miles Garrett, you know,

1465
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: but where are they ranked defensively as a whole, not

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Speaker 1: nearly as high as the How much of this for

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01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: the Browns? And I do I said it all week.

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Speaker 1: I find them a very interesting team. How much of

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Speaker 1: this for the Browns is just um, they're not ready yet,

1470
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Speaker 1: Like keep this group, keep this group together, keep this

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Speaker 1: coaching staff together. They'll get better, they'll grow together. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, they'll meld as a team. That could be

1473
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: what we're looking at here with this, and could be

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Speaker 1: I'm anticipating the Browns will have a much better second

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Speaker 1: half of the season than first half of the season,

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01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: because of their schedule, because of their talent, because they

1477
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of did this last year. They were two six

1478
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: and one after nine games last year and one five

1479
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: or their last seven. They've been down this road before

1480
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: this group. But I will argue the Bills had just

1481
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: as many new additions on offense, maybe not to the

1482
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: headline grabbing nature that the Browns did, but what has

1483
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: helped them at least look functional and make progress to

1484
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: a certain extent most weeks in pulling nine new starters

1485
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: together on offense. You could argue again that the culture

1486
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:39,879
Speaker 1: that's here, the preaching of a daily approach, trusting that process,

1487
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,879
Speaker 1: and you know, pushing this group forward, albeit in incremental stages,

1488
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: has been a lot more fruitful than you know, what

1489
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: the Browns have done, for better or for worse. Even

1490
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: though the additions they've made, you could argue and probably successfully,

1491
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: what they've added is of higher caliber to a great

1492
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: degree than some of the additions that the Bills made.

1493
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: A great conversation yesterday with Jay Crawford of Cleveland, he

1494
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: does Browns preseason TV, former ESPN anchor. We talked to

1495
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: him about the expectations and you know, kind of got

1496
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: him to recap how did they get to that level?

1497
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: Right when people were saying, look at that team, that's

1498
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber team, look at that talent. And

1499
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: he had two things to say, which I think we're interesting, Chris.

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: He said one, it was essentially the drought that they

1501
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: have had and the Browns have gone like twenty six

1502
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: seasons without winning a division title. Not quite the same

1503
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: as Buffalo's epic seventeen year play after out, but pretty similar.

1504
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: He said. It's like you walked through the desert, you

1505
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: haven't had anything to drink, and all of a sudden,

1506
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: there's there's water up ahead. You think it's water anyway,

1507
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: and that was part of it. And it also said

1508
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: it's the additions they met they made, right, which everybody knows.

1509
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, why wouldn't they be relevant? And

1510
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it was just a Cleveland invention. All

1511
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: over the country. People got caught up in the Browns.

1512
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: That's what we do in the season, right, you get

1513
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: caught up and who the Browns signed, and who the

1514
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: Browns acquired in trades and where they were headed. And

1515
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: they got out of hand. There's no question it got

1516
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean it's it's headline grabbing signings. I

1517
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: mean that and trades. I mean, you know, trading for Beckham.

1518
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: You know some of the guys that they signed and added,

1519
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: it's like, whoa what, Like they're going for it. But

1520
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: look at this. I mean even Kareem Hunt, who comes

1521
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: back to the lineup this week, you know, offseason, you know,

1522
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: off the field transgressions aside the talent that he was,

1523
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: It's like they already got Nick Chubb, what do they

1524
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: And at the time they still had Duke Johnson. It's like,

1525
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: what do they need this guy for? I mean, it

1526
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: looked like they were just loaded for bear in terms

1527
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: of talent, and so naturally the expectations followed in grandiose fashion,

1528
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: and you know, people were I mean I still remember it.

1529
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: People are stamping them AFC North Champs yea in April.

1530
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy. And I'm sitting there going, well,

1531
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: hold on a second, because because we've seen this before,

1532
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, Washington is probably the most glaring example where

1533
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, they sign a bunch of big name guys,

1534
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: throw them all in a pot and hope it turns

1535
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: into an eleven or twelve win season, and more often

1536
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: than not, in Washington it just never happened. And part

1537
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: I believe part of the reason why is because they

1538
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: did not have the proper structure in place, number one

1539
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: to properly maximize that talent and number two to blend

1540
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: it all together in an effective way that made them

1541
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: a perennial contender after acquiring all that talent, and then

1542
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: what happens. Another year or two goes by, there's a

1543
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: head coaching change because it didn't work, and then inevitably,

1544
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: even a year or two after that, a lot of

1545
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: that marquee talent that they signed is out the door

1546
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: and playing somewhere else. Ye interesting season, for them. What

1547
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: do you think culture does the trump talent? Does it matter?

1548
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 1: This Sunday, let's go to the tweet sheet, brought to

1549
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official movers of the

1550
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Nick tweets this and culture will trump talent

1551
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: on a season wide basis, but talent can pull off

1552
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: wins week to week. He says, I think the Bills

1553
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: will have a better season than the Browns because of

1554
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: our culture. But the Browns have enough star players to

1555
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: run away with the game. If Atlantam they did beat

1556
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens, they did. They played head to head with

1557
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: Seattle for a long time, they did. Yeah, that's kind

1558
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: of I think Nick summarizes the way I feel. Yeah,

1559
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: long term, I'd much rather be the Bills than the Browns.

1560
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: Much rather be the Bills than the Browns. This season.

1561
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: I'd much rather be the Bills than the Browns. Sunday.

1562
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: It's a problem with all the issues they create with

1563
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: their matchups and their talented roster, right, but can they

1564
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 1: pull it all together? As we heard dustin Fox in

1565
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: the last hour, you know who does pre and postgame

1566
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: radio for the Browns kind of covers them on a

1567
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: daily basis. I was surprised that he said in his

1568
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: opinion that Baker may feel just as in playing with

1569
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: the same confidence and bravado that we've seen from him

1570
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: even as a rookie last year. I watched the game

1571
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: last week against Denver. I agree with Greg Cosell. I

1572
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: think he did take a little bit more risk and

1573
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: was more had more of the gun slinger mentality where

1574
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: he'll try to stick it in a tight window and

1575
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: not hesitate much like he did last year. But the

1576
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: fact remains he is upside down on touchdowns to interceptions.

1577
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: He's got seven touchdowns twelve picks. His passer rating is

1578
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: down twenty two points from where it was last year,

1579
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: and that is I think the greatest drop among quarterbacks

1580
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: who are regular starters in the league, which you know

1581
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: is surprising. And meanwhile, Josh Allen's passer rating is up

1582
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: fifteen points this year, which is I think the second

1583
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: greatest jump among regular starters in the league. So that'll

1584
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: kind of show you the dichotomy between the two quarterbacks.

1585
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: And we want to take culture a step further mirth

1586
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: we can talk about player development again. And we've got

1587
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: two young quarterbacks in this game, both from the twenty

1588
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: eighteen Class one had great success as a rookie, twenty

1589
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, fourteen picks, completed almost sixty four percent of

1590
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: his passes. And here he is this season completing not

1591
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: even fifty nine percent of his passes. And he was

1592
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: widely known as the most accurate passer in that quarterback class.

1593
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: And he has clearly stepped into a sophomore slump and

1594
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: taken a step back with his personal game for sure.

1595
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 1: And what does that say not only about culture, but

1596
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: maybe about player development going forward? You know, who does

1597
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: he have that he can rely on every day to

1598
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: help him push his game forward instead of backward. One

1599
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: more from the tweet sheet. Does culture trump talent? A

1600
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: Surah tweets this and yes, to me, culture is indicative

1601
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: of the level of work and dedication put in day

1602
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: to day study and preparation for each game. The Patriots

1603
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: are a good example. They are not the most talented

1604
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: team in the league, but year and year out they

1605
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: are at the top. Very good point. We've talked about it,

1606
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,919
Speaker 1: you and I at length over the years. The Patriots

1607
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: honestly don't draft really great They just don't. They take

1608
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: cast offs from other teams and make stars out of them.

1609
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: They've done that. Culture. That's what I said last hour.

1610
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: Culture also helps maximize the talent you have, even if

1611
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: it isn't elite level talent, it'll mac because what do

1612
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: we hear Bills fans say all the time, Oh, they'll

1613
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: take that guy, put him on his roster, turn them

1614
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: into a pro bowler. It happens sometimes. I think it

1615
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: also should be noted that you know they've got one

1616
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: of the smartest coaches in football. That also helps because

1617
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 1: he knows how to position those players to maximize their strengths.

1618
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: From Johnny tweets this, and the answer to this question

1619
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: is very obviously no, and anyone who says otherwise is lost.

1620
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: Thank you Johnny for the guidance. That's very poetic. And

1621
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: Jack tweets this, and you need to have both culture

1622
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: and talent, and things change so fast in the NFL,

1623
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: you need to have the talent to compensate. That said,

1624
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: a good culture will help you rebound when the going

1625
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: gets tough and help you survive when there's a lack

1626
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: of talent. But the best teams have both. That's the ideal, Right,

1627
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: have a good culture and good players. You should be okay,

1628
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: you should be really good. I would agree. It's interesting

1629
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: that some of these people on the tweet sheet are

1630
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: trying to say, well, you know, there has to be

1631
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: a balance, and I think that's accurate. You know, I

1632
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: think we've already agreed that they're not mutually exclusive. I

1633
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: just got the email on the updated tweet chet we had,

1634
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: and Andrea had an interesting response. She said, I chose

1635
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: yes on the poll, but I wouldn't say all the time.

1636
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't believe you can win sustainably with only talent

1637
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: and no culture. And I don't believe you can win

1638
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: with only culture and no talent. The Browns Bills season

1639
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: this year is a great example of this dynamic, and

1640
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: I would agree with her. You know, it's not like

1641
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: the Bills are devoid of talent. I think we can

1642
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: agree they don't have the elite talent at certain positions

1643
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: that the Browns can put on the field, but they

1644
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: do have the better culture. I think that's safe to say.

1645
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,440
Speaker 1: And we see where the Bills sit, and I understand

1646
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,440
Speaker 1: what their schedule looks like. The brown schedule gets considerably

1647
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: softer here the rest of the way for the second

1648
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: half of their season. Well, I think most people would

1649
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: agree the Bill schedule gets a little bit tougher, even

1650
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: though the winning percentage might not you know, show that

1651
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: from but we're talking about all these opponents winning percentage

1652
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen, not right now. I mean Baltimore looks

1653
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: like maybe that one of their toughest games outside of

1654
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: New England. The rest of the way here for Buffalo. Yeah,

1655
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: you can't sick of this discussion, Chris cultured talent. No,

1656
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sick of it. I think I think what

1657
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: we need to do here is try to dovetail this

1658
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: into another direction because you look at I think we

1659
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: can all agree the culture is certainly healthier in Buffalo

1660
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: than is Cleveland, and I think that gives the Bills

1661
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: an advantage going into this game, even though you can

1662
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: argue that the talent is better on the Browns roster,

1663
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: because I think if something goes the wrong way early

1664
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 1: for the Bills, I don't expect them to kind of

1665
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: throw their hands up and start checking for rain. Whereas

1666
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: justin watching the Denver game last week, for the Browns,

1667
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: there were certain plays that went the wrong way for them,

1668
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: that didn't work. They had a third in medium and

1669
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: they had Dontrell Hilliard the backup running back to Chubb

1670
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: on the field. It was a read option play and

1671
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: Mayfield gave him the ball ultimately because he saw an

1672
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: inside a gap hole Hilliard didn't see it. He tried

1673
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: to squeeze through the b gap. It didn't work. And

1674
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: there's Baker Mayfield throwing his hands up like, oh my god,

1675
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: how could you pick that gap kind of thing? You

1676
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Off, they had to punt, especially

1677
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback, right, and that's that's bad culture. Is Josh

1678
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: Allen doing that at any point? No, he's not. Why

1679
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: because of the culture that's in place here and the

1680
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: way that every player respects every other player that's on

1681
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 1: the field with them. And that's DNA that he brought here. Boom,

1682
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: by the way, Boom, that's right. But it's also been

1683
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: cultivated because of the culture that exists here. And Baker

1684
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: Mayfield's not getting taught that not in Cleveland. He might not.

1685
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: And well, and that's part two. That's part two. Yeah,

1686
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: And I think that's a conversation that can be had

1687
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: to take this a step further. And this is purely

1688
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: just by observation of last week's game for the Browns.

1689
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean there were bits and pieces of that rearing

1690
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: its head. That doesn't push your team forward, especially when

1691
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: you're facing adverse circumstances. That's where it hurts you the most.

1692
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: Culture talent, what do you think you sending a tweet?

1693
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: We're out of the phone business the rest of the

1694
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: day because we're off the radio the rest of the

1695
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: day because a hockey coming up at about fifteen minutes

1696
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: on the radio side. But we're here, we're on TV.

1697
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: We're on TV. TV counts. Send it a tweet. That's

1698
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: how we can communicate. We come back, we want to

1699
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: talk about the Raiders and their win last night and

1700
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 1: the reaction to that win. We'll do that when we return.

1701
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live presented by Kalata Health Live from

1702
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close

1703
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: on the Lake Shore in Cleveland, that First Energy Stadium,

1704
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: the builds in the Browns getting sent to kick it off.

1705
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: Then let's have a great game. Here goes Frank Gore,

1706
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: changing direction as he goes up in the middle, across midfield,

1707
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: finally brought down at the dirty yard line. Now he's there.

1708
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: One of poor running backs all time, all time, with

1709
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand, a more running yards, make field gets a

1710
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: little pressure, steps up, fires us strike down the middle.

1711
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: He's incomplete. A nice break up by Jean Marlowe. We

1712
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: got him, tee. What we do weekend? We come. We

1713
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: don't play an attention about being on the doll Some

1714
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: guy loved being on the dolls. Here you go, Billson,

1715
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: Brown's coming up Sunday at one o'clock. An interesting, not extensive,

1716
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: but an interesting history between these two franchises. Don't you

1717
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 1: think if we do just a lot there's memorable games.

1718
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: You can refer to him, I can talk about him.

1719
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: I think at one time the owners were close. Heart

1720
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 1: Modell and mister Wilson, both former owners were close until

1721
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,919
Speaker 1: mister Mordell decided to pick up and move to Baltimore,

1722
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: and I think he severed his ties with Russell. Wilson

1723
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: wrote him off after that because he was never in

1724
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: favor of relocation. Right. It's I mean, there's just a

1725
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: lot of things going on, a lot of meat on

1726
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: the bone there. What Cev Tasker reminded me yesterday when

1727
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: the Browns were out for what four years? No team

1728
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Right, they were welcomed up here. They had

1729
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: to come out up here Browns games. That's a couple

1730
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: of years. It was great, it was a great gesture.

1731
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of here. There's a lot

1732
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: going on between these two and you can talk about

1733
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: the game. Steve and I talked at length. I want

1734
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: to say it was Tuesday about the you know, the

1735
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: playoff game the Bills lost eighty nine player yeah, the

1736
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: eighty nine playoff game. And there's also one of our

1737
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: more recent trips down there, the snow game, when you

1738
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: could barely see the field. That is the last time

1739
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: the Bills were shut out in a game, The Snow

1740
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: Game eight nothing, Yeah, and the Bills attempted a field goal.

1741
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: It was It was terrible a joke because it was

1742
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: just snowing too hard and there was no way even

1743
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: for the field goal unit to kind of clear his

1744
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: spot for Ryan Lindel at that time. And I think

1745
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 1: he slipped his plant foot slipped if I remember right.

1746
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: And I don't even think the thing came close to

1747
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: clearing the crossbar. It was like a line drive thing

1748
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: that went under the crossbar, which was really the only

1749
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: opportunity the Bills had to score any points on that day.

1750
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: They had a pass play down there in the red zone,

1751
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: and I think they just missed on it. It's foggy

1752
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: for me, but the snow was insane. It was snowing sideways,

1753
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: and we knew it was going to be a low

1754
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: scoring game. And somehow, some way, Derek Anderson just did

1755
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: enough in that game to get them in scoring range.

1756
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: And then what was it a safety? Right? The Bills

1757
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: had a safety against scored on them. And then it

1758
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: ended up being eight to nothing. And then the rest

1759
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: of the story, as Paul Harvey used to say, we

1760
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: got snowed in. Yeah, we couldn't. We couldn't go back.

1761
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: It was snowing too hard to bust back, let alone flyback.

1762
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: So we stay in the hot Team hotel for another night.

1763
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: We get up the next morning and the weather has cleared.

1764
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: But in the infinite wisdom of the pilot, you know,

1765
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: we pull up in the buses. We're on the tarmac

1766
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: waiting to get on the plane. We're watching the plane

1767
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: do a U turn as they will do to get

1768
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: on the proper runway for boarding. You know, you're off

1769
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 1: the main runway where there's air traffic. He's coming around,

1770
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 1: and you know there are these long oval strips of

1771
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: grass in between the two runways, and then there's cut

1772
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: through areas where there's pavement. Well, the pilot cuts the

1773
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: turn too tight, rolls the front wheels of the aircraft

1774
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: into the grass. Well, it's it's been snowing for the

1775
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: last day or two, so the ground is wet and

1776
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: the plane just you know quicksand scene at a Tarzan movie.

1777
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: The plane just starts sinking, you know, the weight of

1778
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: the plane on the wheels sinks into the grass. The

1779
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: plane is immobile. We don't we can't really call up

1780
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: another aircraft stuck in the mud. We ended up bussing home.

1781
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Remember that I do bussing home on Monday. Here's a

1782
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 1: game that goes way back, pretty far back. Nineteen ninety

1783
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: Bills were good, right for a Super Bowl year. They're

1784
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: six and one. They go to Cleveland and just hammer

1785
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: the Browns. I just look it up. Forty two to nothing. Wow.

1786
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: And Bud Carsons I believe his last game is that

1787
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: coach got fired. But the thing that stuck he used

1788
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: to get pretty hot on the sidelines. Yeah. Cleveland native

1789
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Darryl Talley intercepted a pass in the fourth quarter RANTI

1790
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: back sixty yards for a touchdown. Oh, good for him,

1791
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 1: it was great. That's gotta be one of his top Absolutely.

1792
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: Darryl Talley runs an interception back sixty yards for a

1793
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 1: touchdown to finish them off. That's I mean, there's a

1794
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: lot of interesting history between these teams. Maybe more to

1795
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: come on Sunday, right. I think it's gonna be a

1796
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: big game. I really do. I you know, six and

1797
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: two verses two and six most of America. I think

1798
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a nip and tuck game. I really do.

1799
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: I think the oddsmakers have this dead nuts on with

1800
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: two and a half point spread. I think it's gonna

1801
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: be tight. I think it's gonna be a tight and

1802
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: tight game, and that that part of that makes me

1803
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: feel good that the Bills have Houshga because Cleveland is

1804
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: a very young kicker in Austin Siebert who has never

1805
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: been hasn't missed yet, I know, but he has never

1806
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: been in a game winning situation with you know, less

1807
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: than two minutes to play, less than three minutes to

1808
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: play overtime, anything like that. So it's interesting. He's missed

1809
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: some extra points, but I think he's fourteen to fourteen

1810
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: on field goals. Yeah, they've been very good. Yep. All right,

1811
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 1: we got a break. We got Lorenzo Alexander stopping by

1812
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: in the third and final hour, and we will talk

1813
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: about that Raiders game coming up as well. Come on

1814
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: back with us. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health

1815
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Live from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio,

1816
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Hills Radio Network Sports Day. Yep, they comes from One

1817
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: Bill Drive. The Bills finished up there practice. They've got

1818
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: a clean injury report at this midway point of the season.

1819
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 1: Everybody full goal for Sunday's game against the Browns. Second

1820
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: half of the season begins with the Bills on the road,

1821
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: a clean injury report. The Browns are not gonna have

1822
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 1: defensivanen Olivia Vernon. He has been declared out with a

1823
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 1: knee injury. They also will go without safety Eric Murray

1824
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: three of Buffalo's next four games on the road, the

1825
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 1: Bills looking to win their first four road games for

1826
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 1: just the third time in franchise history. The weather Sunday

1827
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: in Cleveland's not gonna be that cold. Forecast calls for

1828
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: a hive about fifty one fifty two degrees cloud These guys,

1829
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: we got the broadcast here in our flagship radio station,

1830
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: WGR Sports Radio five fifty. I'll be in the booth

1831
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: with Eric Wooden salcpaccio on the sidelines. Brown center JC

1832
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Tretter has agreed to a three year contract extension with

1833
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: the team. The Acra, New York native got a deal

1834
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: for thirty two and a half million dollars worth with

1835
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: more than twenty three million dollars guaranteed. He came to

1836
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: the Browns by a free agency going into the twenty

1837
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: seventeen season. Oakland Raiders with a big win last night

1838
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty four over the Chargers. Oakland rookie running

1839
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: back Josh Jacob scored the game winning touchdown an eighteen

1840
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: yard run with just over a minute remaining. Alvin Kamara

1841
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: back in New Orleans lineup Sunday. He said he's gonna

1842
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: play like it has not missed a beat. He insists

1843
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: there's no jealousy or self this desire to take his

1844
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 1: role back from his veteran back up Latavius Murray, who

1845
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: has played very well. Washington has put offensive lineman Trent

1846
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: Williams on the reserve non football injury list, ending his

1847
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: season ends. A months long saga involving the former star

1848
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and the team Hall of Fame cornerback. NFL

1849
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Network analyst Dion Sanders has emerged as a candidate for

1850
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 1: the head coaching job at Florida State University. Florida State

1851
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: fired coach Willie Taggart from the job on Sunday after

1852
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 1: less than two seasons at the Helm. Sanders, of course,

1853
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: played football, baseball and ran track at FSU from nineteen

1854
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: eighty six through nineteen eighty eight. And the Savers getting

1855
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: set to face off in Stockholm, Sweden as we speak

1856
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: up against the Tampa Bay Lightning. They'll play him again

1857
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: tomorrow afternoon in Stockholm as well. Lenas Allmarksgannual to get

1858
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: to start in goal for Buffalo. And that is the

1859
01:34:45,240 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: update from one Bill's Drive. Time for blow Down with

1860
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander. He joins us in studio belowdown, brought to

1861
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: you by Hutches Redefining City Dining. Good afternoon, Lorenzo, He

1862
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: was going on, guys, doing well, You're doing really well?

1863
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: How about you? Good good. I'm hanging in there, just cold,

1864
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get my blood warmed up a

1865
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: little bit. The winter hit your heart here doesn't it. Yeah,

1866
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: it gets me. I mean, especially since I've been you know,

1867
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: in Arizona this last summer and stuff and so, and

1868
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 1: I still have you know, I think it was It's

1869
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 1: probably my fault is that I have on my Apple Watch.

1870
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: I have like my weather set up for all the

1871
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: cities that I live in, and like Arizona is the

1872
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 1: prime example. So every time I wake up eighty five degrees,

1873
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my buddy Mark Dalton in Arizona. Yeah, okay,

1874
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: and he's he was complaining, Oh, I gotta go all

1875
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: the way. They're going across country to play Tampa. So no,

1876
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: it's only seventy eight degrees in Tampa. You're you're being

1877
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 1: counterproductive going down there for the offseason, because you know,

1878
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't give me a chance, your blood of chance,

1879
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 1: he's thicking up. No, not to spend six months here

1880
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: and then your blood kind it's worth it, though, it's

1881
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 1: worth it. I'll take the trade off, all right. Hey,

1882
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you probably have not spent much

1883
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: time with our show. You've been a practice today, but

1884
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about a topic that I

1885
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 1: think would probably be near and dear to your heart. Look,

1886
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: Truan McDermott talks a lot about team culture and building

1887
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 1: the culture and getting the players of the right DNA,

1888
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: and he's done that two and a half seasons here

1889
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. And here you go up against an opponent

1890
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: on a Sunday that might be diametrically opposed. It's almost

1891
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 1: not it's almost like culture versus talent this week you

1892
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: see it that way at all, Not really, I mean,

1893
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: because we have talent on our team. When you say that,

1894
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: it means like, oh, you guys are undermanned in a sense.

1895
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 1: And so I think it takes probably a culmination of

1896
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: the two. You want to have talent. Talent gives you

1897
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: an opportunity to win and maybe win a championship. But

1898
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: I think to be able to close that gap, how

1899
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: do you get from you know, OTAs of you know,

1900
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: and after the draft and going through training camp to

1901
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: now get through a season, hopefully get to the playoffs

1902
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: and to make a run to get to a championship.

1903
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 1: And that's where culture comes in. So you talk about

1904
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: what Sean talked about this morning, You talk about discipline,

1905
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, So what does that mean your routine every day?

1906
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: How you show up to work, or how do you

1907
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: lift weights, how do you watch film when things get

1908
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: hard and it doesn't look right, or you still staying

1909
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: true to that because you know that it works for you.

1910
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: And then number two really love, and that means relationships

1911
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: with your teammates, that chemistry you talk about, getting to

1912
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 1: know them, playing hard for those guys, playing hard for

1913
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 1: the coaches. So then people can talk into your life

1914
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 1: and you can take things. You can take good criticism,

1915
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,560
Speaker 1: you can give criticism because that's how you grow throughout

1916
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: the process. And so I think it's a culmination of

1917
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the two. In my opinion, I think culture and environment

1918
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: is probably more important because I can take a less

1919
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: talented team that's willing to play for each other and

1920
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: grind for each other a lot further than I can

1921
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: take a bunch of individuals that have great talent but

1922
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:57,759
Speaker 1: aren't willing to sacrifice maybe a couple of touches for themselves.

1923
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: I think it clear that neither you nor I am

1924
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 1: saying the Browns don't have that right. I mean, they're

1925
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: just this week's opponent, which is why it comes up.

1926
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Yeah, well I'm not

1927
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: in their locker room. So but you not a lot

1928
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: a lot of noises coming out, like they're pointing fingers

1929
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: at each other. You know the reason why when I

1930
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: look at the film or look at the tape, and

1931
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: they probably say, it's just a lack of execution. I mean,

1932
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: the guys have the talent to get open and be

1933
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: in the right places. But when you're not, when you're

1934
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: just a little bit off, it can kind of snowball

1935
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: on you. You get frustrated, and then the results aren't

1936
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: there as far as wins, and so it can be

1937
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: hard for you to kind of get things rolling again.

1938
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: These Browns at two and six are firmly backed into

1939
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: a corner here. They really can't have another loss. They're

1940
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: three games back in the lost column right now to

1941
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: the last wild card contender right now, which is ended

1942
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: at four and three. Okay, so two and six, I mean,

1943
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:54,520
Speaker 1: this is it. You saw a similar team in Philadelphia

1944
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: that was desperate. Yeah, how much do you think that

1945
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: can help serve you this week? Knowing how backed into

1946
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: a corner Clearland this, Yeah, I mean we've kind of

1947
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: addressed it obviously. The last time we played a team

1948
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 1: that was back in the corner, as you mentioned in Philly,

1949
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,560
Speaker 1: we didn't show up and play our best defensively, and

1950
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 1: so again just reiterating you can't take teams for granted.

1951
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 1: And I think I said the same thing we said Philly.

1952
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: When you watch Philly's tape, they it was a lack

1953
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: of execution. Wasn't a lack of ability or doing the

1954
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: things the right way, but guys dropping ball. So for them,

1955
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: all they have to do is just in their locker room,

1956
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: they're saying, all we got to do is execute. It's

1957
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: been us, We've been beating ourselves. And so with that mindset,

1958
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: you come in expecting to getting getting their best. You

1959
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: know what people expected of them since the beginning, and

1960
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: that's how we approach it. Every week. We don't expect

1961
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,640
Speaker 1: to get, you know, a team that's not executing. We

1962
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: expect them to try to hit on all cellators and

1963
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: really exploit some of the weaknesses that we might have

1964
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: shown the last couple of weeks from a defensive perspective.

1965
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 1: But Bill's lineback killer Angel Alex Janders going to give

1966
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: us the low down as we moved through the next

1967
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Here, I ended a discussion with Steve

1968
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: Tansker earlier this week. Remember when Steve used to work here. Yes,

1969
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,560
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them in a while time officially a

1970
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 1: part time employer. Hey man, when you play, as long

1971
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 1: as you can do whatever you want to do. Yeahs

1972
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 1: underdog status. The bills Las Vegas line a couple of

1973
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 1: points underdog. I said, you guys would probably ignore that,

1974
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: but he thought you teams can take can take make

1975
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: that an issue and make it like a motivator. Yeah,

1976
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 1: maybe some teams. I mean we don't. I mean we're

1977
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: showing up regardless of what you know, Um Vegas has

1978
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: put us at or what the national media thinks of

1979
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 1: what we have in our locker room and coming out

1980
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: to play. I don't that's maybe extra you can throw

1981
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: in a fire for some guys to motivate. But at

1982
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: the at the center of everything, we want to be

1983
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: a good team and make the playoffs, and we want

1984
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: to come out when win regardless if we're favored by

1985
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 1: teen or you know, are underdogs by three. You know,

1986
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter to us. You've got Corey Allegiate,

1987
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: a veteran player, proven player in this league. Granted he's

1988
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: coming off you know what, was a major injury, but

1989
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: played three games in Oakland but he you know, he

1990
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 1: had that torn quad tend in last year that kind

1991
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 1: of cost him all the last year, but he's back.

1992
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: He's a year removed from that. What do you think,

1993
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, the coaching staff and the front office felt

1994
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 1: he could bring to your defense, to bring him in

1995
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 1: and defense, Yeah, just the veteran leadership having a knowledge

1996
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: of plan for i mean eight going on nine years now.

1997
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: I believe Bob Babbage was with him in San Diego

1998
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 1: as well, so he had a you know, obviously a

1999
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: former relationship and could really speak to his leadership qualities

2000
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: and some of the things that he does very well.

2001
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: Um as far as being a football player. And I

2002
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: think the more guys you can, you know, help add

2003
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: with that have played the d tackle spot for a

2004
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 1: long time, the more pictures that he has of guys

2005
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 1: in there that can actually speak to it from a

2006
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: players perspective, is definitely going to help him as well.

2007
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: Got another player to ask you about on the defensive line,

2008
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, who you've been around now for a year

2009
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: or so, and he's you know, in the starting lineup.

2010
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,560
Speaker 1: He's kind of an energy player, but he's more than that.

2011
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,640
Speaker 1: He's got talent, leads the league among defensive tackles with

2012
01:41:57,800 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: sacks right now with six. Uh yeah, yeah, he's been

2013
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: doing a great job. And obviously the more opportunity he's gotten,

2014
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: the more production has shown up. And he's going to

2015
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: continue to be a dominant player. Um, I think in

2016
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: our defense, Um, it's a guy that's just really taking

2017
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: advantage of his opportunity. Um, since he's gotten here last year,

2018
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: I think he really he has a unique personality and

2019
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 1: guys gravitated around him. And you can see right here

2020
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: he always getting us juiced up, the crowd involved, and um,

2021
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: he's been a huge benefit and he's really grown as

2022
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: a leadership like that in the locker room because you

2023
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 1: get him on the show here in these monotone he

2024
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: won't won't well, some guys you know, just aren't very

2025
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: comfortable to media, you know sometimes you know, But in

2026
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: the locker room he's great. Um, he is who he

2027
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: is who he shows on the field. I think this

2028
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit out of his element or

2029
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to show. Maybe maybe I will maybe,

2030
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: but if I tell him, y'all don't pay me, he's

2031
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: really not gonna want to work with y'all. You know so.

2032
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, but he's he's great. Uh. You know, he

2033
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: does a good job in the locker room is who

2034
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 1: he is. We have a lot of fun. One. I'm

2035
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: just letting you know, man, if you want somebody to

2036
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 1: break out, really show up, you know like I do

2037
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,600
Speaker 1: every week. He's just keeping it real. Yeah. Let you

2038
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: know how you get a guy to come out of Michelle.

2039
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: A little talk we did. We did a feature We

2040
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: did a feature story on Jordan this week on Buffalo

2041
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 1: Bills dot com and you know, we were asking him,

2042
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, who do you feel has kind of been

2043
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: instrumental and kind of helping ingratiate you into this it's

2044
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 1: called you know, going back to last year when he

2045
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: kind of came on board after a month into the

2046
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 1: season and he said Starr was the guy that's really

2047
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: helped him the most. Um And I said, well in

2048
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: what way? He said, well, he's kind of helped me

2049
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,560
Speaker 1: with my filter because he said that he is a

2050
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 1: person that there really was no filter. He goes straight

2051
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: from his brain and out of his mouth and he

2052
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: would say exactly what's on his mind and not care

2053
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 1: who it impacted. And he said, I'm working on that,

2054
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, which I think going back to the culture

2055
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: here just for a second, kind of demonstrates if there

2056
01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: is a culture in place, you're cognizant of the people

2057
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 1: you're impacting with the words you say that you're counting

2058
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: on on Sundays. Likely you don't want to turn a

2059
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: guy the wrong way because you know you said something

2060
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: foolish or off you know, off color or whatever. So

2061
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a step for him from a maturity standpoint,

2062
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: especially with the reputation that he was stamped with in

2063
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: Miami when he got clipped out there. He's a young

2064
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 1: player just trying to learn his way, and now I

2065
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 1: think that's why Sean pushed such a premium on having

2066
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 1: veterans in every single room, because then you can have

2067
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 1: a guy like Star who's been around and as a

2068
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: professional that can speak to him because obviously played the

2069
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: same position, Jordan has gotten a no star on a

2070
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: personal level, and so when Starr says something to him,

2071
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: he knows he's trying to help him. He's not out

2072
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: to let me try to put myself in the best way.

2073
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 1: He's trying to speak to him so he can help

2074
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: him grow and obviously become a better professional, be a

2075
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 1: better player and then ultimately, you know, get paid by

2076
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 1: the production that has on the field. You gotta read

2077
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: the story because Star we went and talked to Star

2078
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 1: right after and I'm talking to him and I said,

2079
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, however, you helped him. He goes, we can

2080
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 1: go back to the first week. He goes, We're in

2081
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: film after the first game that Jordan played, and Leslie

2082
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: Frasier is calling him out in front of the entire

2083
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: defense for not doing whatever, and Stars like, I'm looking

2084
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 1: at Jordan and I can see the you know, he's

2085
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: just the boiling, you know. He said he was getting

2086
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: like a steam pot ready to whistle. And he said

2087
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: I had to grab him by his arm because I

2088
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 1: was sitting next to him. If I'm like, just relax,

2089
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 1: take it yep. Because he said he thought Jordan wasn't

2090
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 1: really exposed to that kind of accountability from coaching before

2091
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 1: and it was a shock for him. But that's how Leslie,

2092
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you could speak to that better. That's how

2093
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: everybody I mean. And it's not like it's unwarranted. They're

2094
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 1: criticizing you for a purpose or giving you um critiques

2095
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: so that you can become a better football player. And

2096
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: help our team. And so you have to have a

2097
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: sense of accountability and humility when if you're in our

2098
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: locker room, because you don't get that everywhere, like as

2099
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 1: you're saying, and so when you first get it and

2100
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,679
Speaker 1: it's front of everybody, you can't It can come across

2101
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: the where if you're not used to hearing it and

2102
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 1: receiving it. But knowing Frasier as I've known him as

2103
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: long as I have, in most of our coaches, if

2104
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 1: not all of our coaches, they're all trying to make

2105
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 1: you a better football player in the end when they

2106
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: are giving you some critiques and criticism even when you've

2107
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: had a good game. John Murphy, Chris Brown and the

2108
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: unpaid Lorenzo Alexander and I've been beating it for four

2109
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: years now. I guess guys, I'm gonna be gone in

2110
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: a minute, so I'm not you know what I mean,

2111
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: So not getting any residuals from task. You're right in

2112
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: the middle of this, right hey, um, you guys to

2113
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 1: face some good running backs this year, Levian Bell obviously,

2114
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, this guy Nick Job, I would put it

2115
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: right kind of alongside with him, right, Yeah, I don't

2116
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:40,839
Speaker 1: people know that, but he's really good. He's very explosive, dynamic,

2117
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: has great vision, UM, and when he gets out in

2118
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 1: the open field, I mean, and can you know turn

2119
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: a you know, five ten yard run into a to

2120
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: an explosion play and getting into the end zone. And

2121
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 1: so he's a guy that we definitely have to be

2122
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: aware of where he is when he's in the game,

2123
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: kind of his his placement um, you know, because they

2124
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: loved going screens to him as well, which we've had

2125
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: an issue with this year. UM. And so it's gonna

2126
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: be definitely a big time challenge for us, and we

2127
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: know they're gonna try to exploit and make sure that

2128
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 1: we've shored up some of our deficiencies in our in

2129
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 1: our gap integrity the last couple of games, the second

2130
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: half of the Washington is that. Yeah, but it's but

2131
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 1: you have to be consistent with it. I mean, each

2132
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: each every week they're gonna test to make sure that

2133
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 1: that it is showed up UM and that there isn't

2134
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 1: any um weak link um out there. Because you know,

2135
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: every team okay, well let's see if they if they

2136
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: got to corrected. Well, maybe they haven't gotten corrected because

2137
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 1: we saw a play in the my um, who do

2138
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 1: we play before Philly? I'm I'm Miami, Miami, Miami. Philly

2139
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 1: ran to play the same play out of twenty person

2140
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 1: there were two backs, and then last week Grant the

2141
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 1: same play twenty person there were two backs. So I

2142
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 1: can almost guarantee you, especially with cream Hunt coming back,

2143
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna put two backs in the backfield even though

2144
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 1: we stopped in the second, and they're gonna run the

2145
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: same exact play to see if we got a corrected

2146
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's just how the NFL works as

2147
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: a copycat league, because why I come up with something

2148
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: new if a team has shown that they can't correct

2149
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 1: the issue. Speaking of their offensive line, though, that's one

2150
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: of the units that's come under heavy criticism just for

2151
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: not giving Baker enough consistent protection. I think he's been

2152
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,799
Speaker 1: sacked twenty something times already this year, and his numbers

2153
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: are down across the board. I mean, he's upside down

2154
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns to interceptions. His completion percentage is down about five percent,

2155
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: and when he came out in that class, he was

2156
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: known as the most accurate of the bunch. I'm not

2157
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: asking for game plan here, obviously, but there are there

2158
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 1: some things that you guys feel good about going into

2159
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 1: this game that you think you might be able to

2160
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: get them on. Yeah, I mean, obviously have a couple

2161
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: of new pieces on their offensive line, and we have

2162
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: some familiarity with like Wyatt Teller that was here. But

2163
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: anytime that you aren't comfortable or you feel like you're

2164
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: under pressure, I mean, that's the quarterbacks kryptonite at any

2165
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: point because if internal clock look accelerated right now, yeah,

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01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, and we can see and pressure

2167
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily always mean you're blitzing somebody, just you know,

2168
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: pressure in your face, whether it's a tackle, pushing the

2169
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 1: guards back in your face, or in coming around the corner,

2170
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: that feels like you have to speed up things and

2171
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: that throws off their time. And as we're talking about

2172
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: where you're speeding things up because okay, well I haven't

2173
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: been getting protected, so let me speed this thing up.

2174
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 1: And then now you're off timing with your receivers and

2175
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 1: you're missing guys by hair here and there, and then

2176
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 1: that turns into frustration. And so you do see that.

2177
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: But any quarterback that has ever pressured their QBR normally plummets,

2178
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 1: you know, you know, thirty points minimum just because that's

2179
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: everybody's kryptonite. Yeah, run Joe, Alexander and shouting with us.

2180
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 1: A couple more minutes, we're gonna get through his low down,

2181
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: his keys to the Bills game against Cleveland. But I

2182
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: want to ask you one more question about the Washington game.

2183
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 1: You had your high school football coach here in attendance.

2184
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: You tweeted that out. Yeah. Yeah, who happens to be

2185
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 1: my uncle and who was my father figure growing up,

2186
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 1: and so it was really cool for him to be

2187
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 1: able to come out. What's his name, Stephen Moore. It's

2188
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: my mom's brother, and so you know, he's been coaching

2189
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 1: me since I was five years old, you know, as

2190
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: a in baseball to football. Um, and he's still coached

2191
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 1: me now, you know, as I'm in fatherhood, a husband,

2192
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: and helped me out, you know, with different life experiences.

2193
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 1: And so last week the Bills had an initiative where

2194
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 1: they had um, I think maybe three or four hundred

2195
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: youth coaches here locally, and they wanted to bring out

2196
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 1: the players youth coach, and they chose me and I

2197
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,799
Speaker 1: picked my uncle. And so he came out and just shared,

2198
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, um, kind of his testimony, his experiences as

2199
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 1: a football coach because he's been a life along coach.

2200
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: He still coaches high school fotball now, but with me

2201
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 1: in particular as well as it's some of the things

2202
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 1: that he's seen over the years that can really help

2203
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 1: young men and women become good players. I don't know

2204
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: if you looked at some of the comments underneath your tweet, no,

2205
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 1: but there was one guy that said, he looks so

2206
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: nice when he's not making me crabs is old school

2207
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: through and through that bear crawl, crab crawl, whatever you want.

2208
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 1: A lot of things that he put me through and

2209
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends through probably wouldn't be warned it. Yeah,

2210
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: parents wouldn't be happy with him, but yeah, I mean

2211
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: he's just hard on us because you know, life is hard,

2212
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 1: and so a lot of the life lessons you always

2213
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: had players which I was really proud of. Guys that

2214
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: he coached would always come back and say I didn't

2215
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 1: understand at the time, but I appreciate everything he did

2216
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 1: for him and made a lot of sense, and it

2217
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 1: helped me in college, helped me as a husband, helped

2218
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: me as a father, and so those are always the

2219
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: things that you had. So here is a great legacy. Um,

2220
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 1: you know back in California as far as all the men,

2221
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: young men that he's really inspired In't that tweet? Was

2222
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 1: that your high school letter jacket? Your head on it? Yeah,

2223
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't my original, one of my original one I

2224
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 1: can't I can't wear. But my mom a couple of

2225
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: years ago for my birthday. Um, we went over to

2226
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 1: the same spot and was able to remake it for him.

2227
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: It was really cool. Saint Mary's College high school. Yeah, well,

2228
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: my boy over Bill over that new era let me

2229
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 1: come in and design a couple of hats, and so

2230
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 1: that was one of them that I put together. What

2231
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: a great thing. And he hears to see, you know

2232
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 1: win that. Yeah, yeah, it was great. He had a

2233
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: great time and the cold got to him a little

2234
01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 1: buc got his big old part cold kind of point board.

2235
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,760
Speaker 1: All right, Lorenzo was here for the lowdown where he

2236
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: gives us the keys to this Sunday's game and let's

2237
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 1: go the Bills in Cleveland. What you got number one

2238
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: on your list of lowdowns? Um, the biggest thing is

2239
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: he has prevent biggest prevent the big play. Um, I

2240
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 1: think that's been anytime teams have gotten a big play

2241
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 1: within the drive has led to points, most of the

2242
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: time touchdowns. But just because most teams can't go methodically

2243
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: down the field on us and this team lives off

2244
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 1: of that obviously with um ob j O'Dell Beckham Junior,

2245
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,600
Speaker 1: and you think about Landry, you think about Chubb in

2246
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: the screen game and some of his explosive runs. UM

2247
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 1: so be able to prevent that because I think not

2248
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: only is that going to help our defense, I think

2249
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: it's also maybe lead to a little bit of frustration

2250
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 1: to them if if they can't get that big play

2251
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 1: to really get their drive started and be able to

2252
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: score points and move the ball on us. You got

2253
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 1: number two there, Chris, I don't have it, and I

2254
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: got it in front of me. Number two. I just

2255
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: working outside. The Bills have been a really good offensive

2256
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 1: red zone team this year, and your second key is

2257
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 1: winning the red zone. What do you ever, man? Yeah, yeah,

2258
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 1: So I've the offense obviously putting up points, but this

2259
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: is really for the defense. I think for us, we

2260
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: have to have a game mimicking last week where the

2261
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 1: Ridskins got down in there but came away with only

2262
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: three field goals. That I mean, you know, you talk

2263
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: to Josh. In any offense, that's very discouraging. You drive

2264
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, sixty seventy yards and then you

2265
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 1: can't figure out a way to get in the end zone. Yeah,

2266
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: you got points, but you know most of those people,

2267
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, want to score touchdowns at the end of

2268
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,600
Speaker 1: the day, and I think with a struggling offense, you

2269
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: don't want them to feel like they're getting any confidence

2270
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 1: by getting the ball in the end zone. And so

2271
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 1: the third one is pretty much rubb Yeah, and this

2272
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 1: is where it really all starts at the beginning should

2273
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 1: have been probably number one is making sure that they

2274
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: don't get any balance or comfort and be able to

2275
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: hand him the ball off. So we have to really

2276
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 1: put a great game, people having great gap integrity, staying

2277
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: in their gaps that they were assigned to, and then

2278
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 1: once he commits, be able to rip off your block,

2279
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 1: rip off the guy that's trying to block you, and

2280
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,719
Speaker 1: get to the ball and tackling with pop elation because

2281
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 1: he does have the ability, much like Adrian did last week,

2282
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: make a guy miss, bounce off a couple of guys,

2283
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 1: and then turn a play that should have probably been

2284
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 1: a four or five yard game into an explosion of

2285
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty five yards. It's been great to

2286
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: be home for three street weeks, but it feels like

2287
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: it's time to go on the road, right, And you

2288
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: guys have played well on the road. Well, you know,

2289
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: it's it's probably gonna feel like a home game again.

2290
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills mof has been traveling well with it. Yeah,

2291
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't be surprised with only a three

2292
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 1: hour drive that we don't have a big time crowd

2293
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 1: like we've had in New York in Nashville. So I'm

2294
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: actually looking forward to seeing our crowd come out again

2295
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: and making some noise for us. But yes, it's always

2296
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 1: good to go on the road and change some things up.

2297
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: But I like playing at home. But I'm sure i'll

2298
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 1: see a ton of Bills fans down there in Cleveland.

2299
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: All right, thanks, man, Joe, You're good. Good, You're coming

2300
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 1: back next week or we have me back. Man, At

2301
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: this point, I'm all in. You know, it's probably my

2302
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: fault that I've allowed this to linger as long as

2303
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: it's head and so I mean I'm kind of a

2304
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 1: victim of my own admission. I know I've been only

2305
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 1: man that just does nothing has changed. I'm too nice.

2306
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: It's it is I'm just too nice. Yeah, thank you

2307
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: Lorens with the Lowdown most Fridays here too. We'll see

2308
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 1: if it happens next week. Lowdown brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Hutches Redefining city dining, Chris and I coming back with more.

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Speaker 1: One goes Live from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: I'm Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back. One goes Live Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown in four Seat Tasker today. See we'll be back

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01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 1: on Monday. That was good with Lorenzo. That was fun

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01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: with Lorenzo and kidding around about not being paid for

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01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 1: his appearances. Except you know what, Chris, I don't know

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01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: if he's kidding. I think he's half kidding, half serious there,

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01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: half kidding. Yeah, we'll get him something. He's great. Great day.

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Speaker 1: Have on the show every Friday. We really appreciate it.

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01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: And I say this now because he may be listening

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01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 1: as he walks down the hall. We're on MSG right now.

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01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: The Sabers are playing. They're trailing one to nothing in

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01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 1: the first period of their game in Stockholm. But stick

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01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 1: with us. We got more bills talk for the next

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Speaker 1: half hour or so. Got a good Twitter poll that

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01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: comes up today? Does culture trump talent? What do you

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01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: think is this game Sunday? The Bills culture against the

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01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 1: Brown's talent? On the Twitter poll? Thirteen hundred votes in

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01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 1: and right now, almost half of you forty seven percent

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01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: say you know not In the week to week NFL

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Speaker 1: not on a weekly basis, thirty nine percent of you

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01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: say yes, culture trump's talent all the time, fourteen percent

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01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: say no, not at all. Culture does not trump talent.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? You have to send it a tweet,

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01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 1: send it to the tweet sheet, send it into one

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01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: Bills Live, and we may read it on the air.

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Speaker 1: Does culture trump talent? I like that, you know one

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01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: of the We talked a lot this week Chris on

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01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 1: the show about the matchups, and there are several matchups

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01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 1: that you know, you scratch your head and say, what

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01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: do you do with that guy? What are you gonna

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01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 1: do with that guy? When you talk about the Bills

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01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: and the Browns. The one matchup that I think is

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01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 1: underrated is what the Bills do with Miles Garrett, the

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01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 1: ten sack producing the defensive end, former first overall pick

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01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: in the draft. Who look I think I said before

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01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: three guys on the Brown's roster by mac Conkin wreck

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01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: a game Odell Beckham, Junior, Nick Chubb, and number three

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01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: is Miles Garrett. He may be number one. He might

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01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 1: be the biggest game wrecking potential. I mean I watched

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01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 1: last week's game and he wasn't overly impressive. He almost

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01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: looked disinterested at times. I was surprised to see that

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01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: from him, So I'm not sure what to expect. I know,

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01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: his stats kind of speak for themselves. You know, ten

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01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 1: sacks and eight games. That's eye opening, and he's leading

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Speaker 1: the AFC in that category. And I think we all

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01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 1: know he was the first pick in the draft and

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01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 1: he's a highly touted and super talented player. He didn't

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01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: have much of an impact last week. I was surprised.

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01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 1: I was really really surprised, especially knowing the problem is

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01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 1: that the Denver offensive line has had on the edges

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Speaker 1: this year. I mean, people are already panning Garrett Bowls

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01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 1: as a first round bust their offensive tackle, and Garrett

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01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 1: did not have an overwhelming impact on that game last week.

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01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: I was really really surprised. How much of a break

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01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 1: is it now that Olivia Vernon has been ruled out

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01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: of the game with a knee injury. Now the Bills,

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01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 1: they might be doing it as we speak up in

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01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line the room, figuring out, Okay, we're gonna

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01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 1: have less than Olivia Garrett at the one on the

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01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: one side. Now we can devote more attention to Olivier

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01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: Vernon on the one side, and now we can devote

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01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 1: more attention the other way, rights Garrett. That well, yeah,

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01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 1: maybe considerably. That helps. Well, it certainly helps on passing downs.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a for sure. I'm kind

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01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: of encouraged on what it could mean for the Bills

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 1: run game. You know, you want to get out on

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01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 1: the I mean, Olivia Vernon is probably the best edge

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01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 1: setting defensive end on that roster, even better than Garrett

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01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: in that category in my estimation. So with him out

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01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: of the mix, I think you can get on the

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01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: edge against this team now unless they start overplaying it

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Speaker 1: to prevent you from doing that. But man, I mean,

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01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: not having Vernon is a big loss for them because

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01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 1: they're backups are Chris Smith and Chad Thomas. Do you

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01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 1: ever hear those guys? Nope? No, So it's a loss

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01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 1: and it's going to be interesting to see how they

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01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: deploy their run front knowing Vernon is not part of

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01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 1: the equation, because I think some of that outside zone

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01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 1: can work really well against this defense without Vernon in

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01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 1: the lineup. So I think there's gonna be some good

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01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: success for the Bills run game, which is important, I think.

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01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. One of these stats that

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01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 1: I uncovered this week, And I know stats don't tell

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01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 1: the whole story, but they certainly tell part of it.

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01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns everybody knows because it's right there on

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01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: the league stat pack. They're the fifth best third down defense,

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01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 1: which is something to say. I mean, that's impressive. They

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01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 1: are the worst team in the league on first down.

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01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 1: They give up almost seven yards a play on first down.

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Speaker 1: It's astounding to me that they're fifth on third down.

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01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: But I think one of the reasons why is teams

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01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: don't even have to get to third down because they're

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01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 1: usually getting a first down after second down because they

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01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:02,560
Speaker 1: got se yards on first down. It's like second and three,

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Speaker 1: an awful lot. And so I think if the Bills

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02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 1: can duplicate some of the first round success that they

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Speaker 1: had last week, we saw how that paid dividends for them.

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Speaker 1: They well, they their first eight first down carries went

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Speaker 1: for fifty two yards. Yeah. I mean that's an average

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Speaker 1: of six and a half a carry. That's really really good.

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Speaker 1: If they can do that again on Sunday, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get some early points on the board.

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Speaker 1: The potential is there to turn the Cleveland crowd against

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Speaker 1: their own team. And more importantly, you're keeping their offense

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Speaker 1: off the field with some of those elite talents that

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. Yep, Browns will not have Olivier Vernon,

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Speaker 1: they will have Miles Garrett and Josh Allen, Buffalo's quarterback,

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Speaker 1: talked about what Garrett does to an offense. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen said about it the other day. You know,

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02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:51,680
Speaker 1: it's hard a pen point one guy, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he leads league in sacks. Um, he's relentless,

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02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 1: big body, you can do some freakish things. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: so he's no joke out there, and you know, he's

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Speaker 1: proved himself for the last couple of years, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a tough task for any team, you know, let

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Speaker 1: alone ours. And we're gonna try to put together game

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Speaker 1: plan and try to go out there and execute the

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Speaker 1: best we can and try not to let him become

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Speaker 1: the distraction that he is just on the field, because

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02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:18,120
Speaker 1: when he gets things going, he's problem to be dealt with.

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02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 1: He is a problem to be dealt with, no question

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02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: about that. Does culture trump talent? Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. What do you think

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02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 1: in this game culture versus talent? Big Multi says team

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Speaker 1: chemistry and coaching. Miracle on ice coach Herb Brooks quote,

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Speaker 1: you think you can win on talent alone, gentlemen, you

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Speaker 1: don't have enough talent to win on talent alone. End quote.

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02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 1: The Bills don't have household names, but together we are

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02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: tough to beat and can beat any team they play. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Tiffany tweets this him. We've had talented players in the

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Speaker 1: past and lost a lot of games. Culture is building

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02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 1: a program with defined goals and expectations. This regime is

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02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: building a winner on all levels with players that fit

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02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 1: into what the organization. I think they're onto it. One

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02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 1: thing I think that has happened here, Chris, is the

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02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 1: fan base is aware of what this group I don't

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02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 1: think they were there at this time last year when

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02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 1: this team was two and six and they say, what

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02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 1: kind of process is this? You know what I mean?

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02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 1: It was a bitter pill to swallow. I think a

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02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 1: lot of people's expectations were raised after the team qualified

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02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 1: for the playoffs end of the drought in seventeen, and

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02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:27,680
Speaker 1: they were expecting big things in eighteen and then you know,

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02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 1: the stuff hit the fan. The quarterback position was a

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02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 1: revolving door and largely a mess. And so they were

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02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 1: two and six this time last year, and people were like,

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02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 1: what the heck is going on with this process? But

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02:02:40,520 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 1: I think it was a byproduct of a couple of things.

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02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 1: I think in year one they overachieved and you know,

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02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 1: got a little lucky, got into the playoffs, which exceeded expectations.

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Speaker 1: When it really when you think about it, year two

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02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 1: kind of presented what year one probably should have been.

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02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 1: And then they gutted the roster, you know, took the

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02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 1: bitter pill of salary cap, you know, purgatory, and the

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02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 1: roster kind of reflected that with all the youth that

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02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 1: was playing significant minutes on the field every week, and

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02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: now here we are in year three, and I think

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02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:24,400
Speaker 1: on the whole the Bills fan base is understanding the

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02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 1: process a whole lot better now. As you know, there

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02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 1: are incremental improvements being made every week. Granted, not absent

2472
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 1: of a step back here or there at times, but

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02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 1: I think the large to a large degree, the thing

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02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: is moving forward in the direction that everybody wants it

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02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: to be. Still a little NFL true or false? It

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02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 1: has brought to you by Yancey's fancy yea cheese? You

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02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 1: like that? Huh? Yeah? That's true or false? Were you

2478
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins? What's going like that? True or false? Chris?

2479
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 1: The Bills should be interested in wide receiver Des Bryan.

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02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go false. And the reason why is because

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02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he is what people remember him to

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02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: be anymore. I agree the guy, what did he have

2483
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 1: an achilles injury? Right? So now he's so he was

2484
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 1: significantly slower, could not get separation against man coverage when

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02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys released him. That was almost two years ago.

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02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:19,760
Speaker 1: Now he's got an achilles injury on top of that,

2487
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: and in such a high impact, stop start nature of

2488
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position, I just don't believe that Des

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02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: Brian can offer you enough to make that kind of investment,

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02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 1: no matter how affordable it might be. And I think

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02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: that if he's on the roster and you want to

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02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:41,320
Speaker 1: plug him in, I think it also stunts the growth

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02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 1: of some of the younger receivers on your roster, like

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02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 1: a Duke Williams for example, because he's not on the

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02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 1: field by as a result of that. Yes, all of

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Speaker 1: the above I agree with. I think it's false. Don't

2497
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,400
Speaker 1: worry about des Bryant. That ship has sailed true or false?

2498
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 1: Part two? This happened. It was Monday night football, right,

2499
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Harland Black, what's the matter. You've seen it too much?

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02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm done with the cats, all right? I mean, oh

2501
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 1: my god, what the hell are we doing with this cat?

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02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 1: One more time with the cat for Chris Brown's one

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02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: more time trying to find it here? Why does that

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02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 1: bother you? No? I just I don't like the follow

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02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 1: up stories. It's a freaking cat, people. One more time.

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02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: Here we go. He's talking, he's walking to the three,

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02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 1: he's at the two, and the cat is in the

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02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: CDW red zone. Cd W people who get it. Now?

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02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: A policeman, a state trooper has come on the field

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02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 1: and the cat runs into the end zone. That is

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02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and the cat is elusive, kind of like

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02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 1: Barkley and Elliott, but he didn't know where to go.

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02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 1: Look at They're trying to corner him, and they got

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02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: him in the end zone. There are state troopers all

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02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 1: around this cat, which now climbs up into the stands

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02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 1: and the fans are running for their lot. And how

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Speaker 1: that goes back on the field again is running in

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02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone and it runs up

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02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 1: the tunnel. There you go. Kevin Harland's call. I give

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Speaker 1: him a lot of credit for working the sponsor in

2521
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 1: and everything. You know, I'm gonna go true. It was

2522
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:14,360
Speaker 1: the best call from last week. You're I know, I

2523
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 1: don't mind the call. The thing that bothers me is

2524
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 1: all of the follow up stories. I mean, they had

2525
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 1: a report this week on what the Stadium Commission was

2526
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 1: doing to see if they could trap the cat. They

2527
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: couldn't find the fat Oh come you read that story? Though.

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02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: I read the headline. I read the headlining and the

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02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 1: caption and I was like, geez, yeah, I were still

2530
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:38,360
Speaker 1: talking about a cat that doesn't come on. Let's just

2531
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:40,560
Speaker 1: move on. I mean, but I guess when the Giants

2532
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 1: and the Jets are this bad? Give him something. It's

2533
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:45,840
Speaker 1: it's extra print for the papers. I suppose right there

2534
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 1: you go, NFL True or False brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Yancey's fancy New York's artist and Cheese just by associate.

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02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 1: One more thing to talk about this is that true

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02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 1: or False? But last night Oakland comes back beats the

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02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 1: Chargers twenty six twenty four, the rookie with the Josh

2539
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 1: Jacobs than eighteen yard touchdown run, final primetime home game

2540
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 1: in Oakland, Alameda County Stadium, and after the game, Raiders

2541
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 1: coach John Gruden pretty much dove into the crowd and

2542
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 1: celebrated with him. I thought it was kind of a

2543
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge John Gruten fan, but I gotta

2544
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:15,960
Speaker 1: say he gets it. This guy gets it. He knows

2545
02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 1: that there's a wrong going down there in Oakland with

2546
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 1: that team moving to Las Vegas next year. He knows

2547
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:24,120
Speaker 1: what that team means to those loyal fans right the

2548
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 1: black hole there in the end zone of Oakland, and

2549
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:29,040
Speaker 1: he just dives in. Look at him. He's spreading out

2550
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 1: hugs and love to all those fans in the end

2551
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 1: zone after a big win. I like John Gruden and

2552
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 1: it's just not doesn't sit well with me that the

2553
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: Raiders are moving. Yeah, I think he understands the history. Yeah.

2554
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 1: I think John Gruten has always had a respect for

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02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: the history of the league, for the fabric of the league,

2556
02:07:47,240 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are one of those fabric of the

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02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 1: league type franchises. Yep. And whether you'll liked Al Davis

2558
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 1: or you hated him, he made the Raiders relevant ye

2559
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 1: for a long long time. Um. And and I think

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02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 1: there's a certain recognition of the special special nature that

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02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 1: that fan fan base brings to the league. You know,

2562
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 1: whether it's the black Hole or the guy's getting dressed

2563
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 1: up like it's Halloween every week. Um, there's an appeal there.

2564
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 1: There's an organic, genuine appeal with the Oakland Raiders fan

2565
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 1: base and I think John Bruten recognizes that and credit

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02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: to him for recognizing that. And there are other teams

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02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:34,960
Speaker 1: in the league that that that are that make the

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02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:38,960
Speaker 1: league better when they're doing well well yeah, but I

2569
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:42,800
Speaker 1: think the Raiders are are a traditional example of what

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02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 1: the league can be when you have those teams in

2571
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 1: contention winning, you know, doing that kind of stuff. And

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02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are one of those where do

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02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 1: those people We're almost out of time here. Where do

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02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:56,640
Speaker 1: those people go when they move to Vegas State? Not?

2575
02:08:56,760 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: That group won't be drive that's six hours. It's a hike.

2576
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:02,920
Speaker 1: You know what the Vegas crowd is going to be.

2577
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be all these gambling high rollers, suits, suits

2578
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 1: with their suit wives and girlfriends and maybe both. You know,

2579
02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be ugly, and it's not gonna be

2580
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 1: the kind of atmosphere. It won't be like Orchard Park.

2581
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,400
Speaker 1: I can tell you that it'll be a lot like Dallas,

2582
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 1: which we're gonna get a look at in a couple

2583
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 1: of weeks. The game is secondary to being seen, the show,

2584
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 1: event and whatever else. Yeah, I think it's regrettable, and

2585
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 1: that's all I'll say about it. We'll take a break.

2586
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 1: We're coming back to wrap things up. One Bill's Live

2587
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

2588
02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:49,280
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, so what have we

2589
02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:51,440
Speaker 1: learned from today's show? Brought to you by Skyworks, the

2590
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 1: official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We

2591
02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 1: had dustined Fox on the show. Radio host does pre

2592
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:00,280
Speaker 1: and postgame on the Cleveland Browns Radio network, former Bill's

2593
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:03,320
Speaker 1: defensive back. We asked Dustin Fox about the reports of

2594
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: not much team chemistry on the Browns roster. Here's what

2595
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 1: he said, And then I think that, um, you know,

2596
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 1: nobody thought the Browns would be sitting here at two

2597
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:15,160
Speaker 1: and six, Um, you know, halfway through the season. I

2598
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:17,120
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people thought they'd be about five hundred,

2599
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they'd be sitting there like like the Buffalo,

2600
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, with six wins. But um, I think it's

2601
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 1: I think it's the first US. I think the Browns

2602
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 1: really don't have that team chemistry and that's kind of

2603
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:31,040
Speaker 1: I think been the biggest problem with with this club.

2604
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:34,680
Speaker 1: It's just there's so much talent, and maybe maybe too

2605
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:36,680
Speaker 1: much talent because that they have not been able to

2606
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 1: come together to you know, to win games. And that's

2607
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:43,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of been the biggest problem thus far. You

2608
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 1: have too much talent. I don't get that. I should

2609
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 1: have jumped on that when he said, Greg go Sell,

2610
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about too much talent. Greg go Sell joined

2611
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 1: us at one o'clock from NFL matchup on ESPN. We

2612
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:58,360
Speaker 1: asked him to assess motor Devin Singletary's performance for the

2613
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 1: first half season so far. Here's what he's set. You know.

2614
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 1: I like Singletary, and it's funny because they really feature

2615
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 1: three runs with Singletary. They feature two specific perimeter runs.

2616
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 1: One was a toss playoff the jet action that went

2617
02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 1: opposite with the center and the tackle pulling. One was

2618
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 1: kind of an outside zone pin pull concept with the

2619
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 1: center and the guard pulling and the jet action going

2620
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:24,120
Speaker 1: to the same side as the run. So they feature

2621
02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 1: two specific perimeter runs with him, plus inside zone. And

2622
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Speaker 1: I think those outside runs, if they can clear the

2623
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:35,800
Speaker 1: edge for Singletary, I think he's got a lot of juice.

2624
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 1: I like Singletary quite a bit, got some juice. I

2625
02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 1: think I like this game a lot. Time for now.

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Speaker 1: The weekend look Ahead presented by Amtrak on Amtrak get

2627
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 1: carried away. Not much going on in the AFC's Chris,

2628
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:51,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots are off and they're the other the bottom dwellers,

2629
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 1: the second division member in baseball when they would call

2630
02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:57,280
Speaker 1: the second division and the bottom dwellers. There Dolphins on

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02:11:57,320 --> 02:12:02,360
Speaker 1: the road, an Indie, the Jets, and lay there's but

2632
02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 1: let me ask you about this on the Bills game.

2633
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:06,600
Speaker 1: Most interesting game. I think it's really interesting. What do

2634
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:08,800
Speaker 1: you do with Odell Beckham Junior. Do you have Tredevious

2635
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 1: follow him or do you played left right? Yeah? I would,

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02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:16,520
Speaker 1: I would only because he's good at that. Right now, Murph,

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02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:18,240
Speaker 1: I just I pulled up the stat just for my

2638
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 1: notes for the weekend to bring into the game and everything.

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02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 1: Tredavious White has the lowest opponent passer rating in football.

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02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 1: He had it last week, he still has it this week.

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02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 1: It's twenty one point four. Is the opponent passer rating.

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02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:36,120
Speaker 1: That's anemic, And no matter the coverage, that's your guy.

2643
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:38,560
Speaker 1: And I think Levi Wallace has had trouble at times

2644
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 1: in man coverage calls. And I don't want to play

2645
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 1: that game against the bit one of the best receivers

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02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:46,520
Speaker 1: in football. So yes, I'm traveling with Trdavious White. There

2647
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:50,440
Speaker 1: are other weapons though, right Jarvis Landry, right Jarvis Landry

2648
02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 1: and the slot will be a handful. It's interesting to

2649
02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:55,880
Speaker 1: see what the deployment of the Nickel package will be,

2650
02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:58,280
Speaker 1: whether it's going to be strictly Taryn Johnson. Do they

2651
02:12:58,400 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 1: roll Dean Marlow in there to get a bigger by

2652
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:02,920
Speaker 1: Adon Landry? You know, Kevin Johnson on third down has

2653
02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:05,120
Speaker 1: come in there, so there's been some option. There's some

2654
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:07,280
Speaker 1: options there for them to choose from. Yeah, I think

2655
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really interesting game. I look forward

2656
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 1: to every game, I confess, but this one got me

2657
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:14,760
Speaker 1: around Tuesday or Wednesday this week. It was Wednesday when

2658
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:17,160
Speaker 1: I was homesick and watching video. I thought, WHOA look

2659
02:13:17,160 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 1: at this Cleanland team. This is gonna be a really

2660
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:21,720
Speaker 1: interesting matchup. I just hope that Devin Singletary is again

2661
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 1: a focal point for them going forward in this matchup,

2662
02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:28,160
Speaker 1: because I think they can really make some hay with

2663
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:30,320
Speaker 1: the ground game in this game. We got the call Chris,

2664
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:32,040
Speaker 1: thank you for this. By the way, sure Chris coming

2665
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:34,560
Speaker 1: in for O Steve Tasker. Steve schedule to join us

2666
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 1: again next Monday. We got the call of the game

2667
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock kick off, myself and Eric Wood

2668
02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 1: in the broadcast. Boots that I'll be in the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: Hope you tune in for that. You tuned in for this,

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Speaker 1: We thank you for that. Our production assistants George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, Thomas Honald Er, Kelly Rude, j J Turto,

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02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:52,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Cartis, James Robel, and our producer Jay Harris enjoy

2673
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:55,120
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday. We are back here on Monday

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Speaker 1: with One Bill's Live presented by Klada Health from the

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02:13:57,680 --> 02:14:01,000
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. And this is Buffalo Bill's

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