Speaker 1: Be around the NFL. Podcast had their request to guarantee
Speaker 1: their incentives d not Oh wow from the Chris Westling
Speaker 1: podcast studio. That one hit too close to home. It's
Speaker 1: around the NFL. I'm dad hands us once again a
Speaker 1: new partner, Mark Sessler now on vacation, but back from vacation.
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Hey, buddy, I mean it's like that new
Speaker 1: a partner. We've done about shows. I would guess undred
Speaker 1: who really knows so many millions of shows. Perhaps, How
Speaker 1: are you doing? I was good, I'm good. You know.
Speaker 1: We went back to Massachusetts, saw the fam saw the
Speaker 1: Celtics put up one four in a game, went back
Speaker 1: forty two. Some nice seats, you know, two seeds in
Speaker 1: the east. That's good. I'm not they're gonna probably have
Speaker 1: to play the nets, but we'll find out. We'll find out. Um.
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on We did check in
Speaker 1: on your social media while you were gone, and there
Speaker 1: was a Instagram story of you looking out into the abyss,
Speaker 1: into the enjoying nature, and we're like, oh, that wasn't
Speaker 1: very like Greg to really put himself out there like
Speaker 1: that on social media, and we're just wondering what headspace
Speaker 1: you were in at that moment. Uh, you clearly didn't
Speaker 1: actually listen to it. It was just sort of a joke.
Speaker 1: It was like peace and quiet. It was this pretty view.
Speaker 1: But then seven seconds in Walker's voice pops up and
Speaker 1: it's like, mommy, where are you? So you didn't you
Speaker 1: didn't have It was just like a bit. Oh I see,
Speaker 1: all right, well then, uh, what's your bit here? Oh no,
Speaker 1: we thought it was tied to, you know, recreational. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: not that day, but certainly certainly that's in the mix
Speaker 1: on a family vacation. Alright, good, well, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: had a nice vago. No no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no no no. Oh my goll oh my goll
Speaker 1: is that it's Connor. We can't hear you because you're
Speaker 1: not wearing a microphone. The first thing the turn her up, collegue,
Speaker 1: do you look like you worked on that walk in?
Speaker 1: I did check out check us out chair. Now it's
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where the Colleen walking is leading
Speaker 1: to Connie shooting me the bird from behind the glass.
Speaker 1: But I think it's brand building. I think you'll look
Speaker 1: back one day and say thank you, Dan for trying
Speaker 1: to get this bit off the ground because it's gonna
Speaker 1: pay off in spades with some type a major sponsorship
Speaker 1: or something down the line. That's great, I hope. So
Speaker 1: I am wonderful. I just finished a little mock draft live.
Speaker 1: You guys can check that out on NFL Network. Lands
Speaker 1: ser Line just released his latest mock, I'm all warmed
Speaker 1: up right now. I also sprinted up the steps in
Speaker 1: heels with my asthma um, and I don't have it inhaler,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fine. All right, take a deep breath.
Speaker 1: You actually you were in Tybee Island this weekend with Joel.
Speaker 1: I was so. We had a wedding in Savannah. One
Speaker 1: of my best friends from college got married there, and
Speaker 1: Tybee's obviously like twenty minutes away from Tybee. So I
Speaker 1: stayed an extra day and I got my friend to
Speaker 1: come to Ka Boos with me, and it was so nice.
Speaker 1: It was a gorgeous day, first of all, but it
Speaker 1: was just so nice because I felt like I was
Speaker 1: hanging out with West and I got to our good
Speaker 1: friends Rosie and Wayne, who know West very well. They
Speaker 1: came and met up with us, and then they randomly
Speaker 1: pulled like two gigantic collages out of nowhere, like from
Speaker 1: behind a booth and dusted them off, and it was
Speaker 1: all of these photos of West from years and years
Speaker 1: ago from Ka Boos with all of the characters. I
Speaker 1: had never seen it multiple It was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: such a great time. Yeah. And then um our buddy Wayne,
Speaker 1: he has a Pontiac gt O which I did not
Speaker 1: know about, so he took us first spin and that
Speaker 1: I had a wonderful time. That is. That's a great
Speaker 1: I always thought that Tybee was always add twenty degrees
Speaker 1: with humidity, but you're saying there's actually just nice chill
Speaker 1: weather there too. Well. The wedding that I had on
Speaker 1: Saturday was on a dock with no heaters and it
Speaker 1: dipped down to about forty degree and major wind gusts.
Speaker 1: So yeah, um, I didn't do it. I was home.
Speaker 1: I was home this weekend. Big time loser took the
Speaker 1: Suns to see Sonic too. How was that? You know
Speaker 1: what it is? It's two hours and two minutes long?
Speaker 1: And you know what the next day or that night,
Speaker 1: I was scanning through Netflix and uh, full Metal Jacket,
Speaker 1: the great Stanley Kubrick masterpiece was on. So what did
Speaker 1: you do one hour and fifty six minutes long. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of movies. Oh yeah in a world. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is not the time for the Mark Pot. I
Speaker 1: know he's on vacation, but I'm annoyed. Now, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: seeing little Filler and Sonic time. I'm just saying they
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for all of Hollywood to take a
Speaker 1: good look in the mirror. That's all I agree with it.
Speaker 1: I can't sit still. It's really difficult for me to
Speaker 1: watch a movie in general, so I would much rather
Speaker 1: show I went and saw that movie Drive My Car
Speaker 1: in the theater because I knew I would never be
Speaker 1: able to sit through it at home. Two hours and
Speaker 1: fifty minutes. That the New Batman's three hours. That's way
Speaker 1: too much. It's too much. Today's show great to have
Speaker 1: the crew here. Mark getting his much deserve vacation, so
Speaker 1: we'll try to leave him alone. That's very important coming
Speaker 1: up on today's show. Yes, it is the unveiling on
Speaker 1: the podcast of the Graybeards with very special guests, uh
Speaker 1: My Roster Consigliari, Evan Silva of Established So that's coming
Speaker 1: up a little later, but first we have to get
Speaker 1: caught up on the news. It's funny. Some people see
Speaker 1: him and they see him as rapper, but to me,
Speaker 1: he's a story teller. That's where I feel about myself.
Speaker 1: I'm holding this guitar anyway, Look at me going on
Speaker 1: and on here, Satellite. These are the messages I get
Speaker 1: from Dan Hansas on a regular basis. No context for this,
Speaker 1: I don't need it. We had a brief conversation. You
Speaker 1: should have context for my own uh, if you have
Speaker 1: any respect for me? Um No, we uh. I talked
Speaker 1: about we're talking about guitar play. I asked if you
Speaker 1: knew how to play guitar. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: play guitar. And I said, if I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to play guitar, I would have been a great dorm
Speaker 1: douche back in college because that's endless game. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it would be a shooting fish in a barrel.
Speaker 1: That would be an example of dialogue. I would share.
Speaker 1: We were trying to do like a live performance of
Speaker 1: a bit coming up, but you know that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: I think it worked out better though. Yeah. And Satellite,
Speaker 1: of course is Dave Matthews Band. Because if you had
Speaker 1: songs in your back pocket with the acoustic guitar in
Speaker 1: the dorm. You're crushing it at Northeastern with you if
Speaker 1: I had a guitar, but I didn't, so I wasn't.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the news. Let's start with
Speaker 1: something really said, really tragic. Steelers quarterback Dwayne Haskins died
Speaker 1: Saturday morning after he was hit by a vehicle in
Speaker 1: South Florida, twenty four years old. Unbelievable tragedy. Here stand
Speaker 1: out at Ohio State star there, helped them win a championship,
Speaker 1: all Big Ten honors, went to the NFL. Did not
Speaker 1: go um as well in the pros. But uh, it's
Speaker 1: hard to believe, Greg, that we would lose Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: at this age years old, when a tragedy. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really sad. You know, he was he was expected to
Speaker 1: return to the Steelers this year play play a backup
Speaker 1: role there. And when you follow these players, you you
Speaker 1: don't know them. And unfortunately sometimes it takes something like
Speaker 1: this to learn more about Dwayne Haskins, like the man
Speaker 1: and the friend. And you just heard so much from
Speaker 1: his teammates both in Washington and Pittsburgh of like what
Speaker 1: he meant to them, that he was always looking to improve,
Speaker 1: looking to get better, that he was a very um
Speaker 1: passionate like person and impacted so many people. All we
Speaker 1: know about is like what we see on the field,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's it's it's tough. All these
Speaker 1: early deaths they always like hit hard, but it hits
Speaker 1: even harder after West for some reason, that just like
Speaker 1: whenever a life is lost too soon, and the way
Speaker 1: our world is now that we're bombarded with social you know,
Speaker 1: media and just information all the time, like it's all
Speaker 1: was happening, but it just makes you think. It definitely
Speaker 1: hit me different because I was already feeling nostalgic for
Speaker 1: West when I was in Georgia, and then I got
Speaker 1: the news of Dwayne Haskins and I had a chance
Speaker 1: to talk with him a lot at the combine, and
Speaker 1: he was so sweet before he was coming out like
Speaker 1: he We talked about so many different things just about
Speaker 1: him and his life and and what he what he liked.
Speaker 1: He we had this shared love for Alan Iverson, who
Speaker 1: that was the first person who got me into sports.
Speaker 1: And he also just had this love for cooking and
Speaker 1: this infectious smile and had an entire Instagram dedicated to
Speaker 1: the dogs. That he and his girlfriend shared together. So
Speaker 1: we talked about so many different things. I remember he
Speaker 1: had thrown at a special needs football camp and that
Speaker 1: was something that was really special and important to him.
Speaker 1: And he also had this eighth grade science project that
Speaker 1: he did because everybody always brings up the fact that
Speaker 1: he wanted to go to Ohio State, and he talked
Speaker 1: about it and he uh, he had basically said that
Speaker 1: he was going to go there and then it happened.
Speaker 1: But I thought that this was interesting. He had this
Speaker 1: eighth grade science project that he did and he was
Speaker 1: able to determine that over the top throwing motion produces
Speaker 1: the cleanest release, the tightest firals, and the highest velocity
Speaker 1: and he got an A on the project and he
Speaker 1: was so proud of that. So it's just so tragic
Speaker 1: the entire situation. He was so young, and it's just
Speaker 1: so so sad. And it did because you learn, you
Speaker 1: learn more about someone um after they passed, somebody that's
Speaker 1: the celebrity or someone that's a notable figure sometimes And
Speaker 1: for me, as someone who didn't doesn't follow college closely,
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of that. Dwayne Haskins as a
Speaker 1: college star, legend, a legend at Ohio State, that guy
Speaker 1: that was born to play there and then took the
Speaker 1: team UH to Rose Bowl greatness. So from me, it
Speaker 1: was a a ball As a professional, I only knew
Speaker 1: the guy that wasn't ready for the NFL, that didn't
Speaker 1: play well in Washington and now was hoping to make
Speaker 1: it and stick around at Pittsburgh as a backup. So
Speaker 1: it's just it's a reminder that these people, um, people
Speaker 1: are more than what they do just on the field.
Speaker 1: When you get to the NFL, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: whole person behind it. It's just it's a tragic thing.
Speaker 1: Everyone who was getting passed around. Of course on on
Speaker 1: social media. His last Instagram post or he was just
Speaker 1: messing around having fun with different Steelers players they're working
Speaker 1: out in Florida when this accident occurred. Just very sad
Speaker 1: and um our hearts go out to his family. So
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins passes away at hard to believe. Moving on class,
Speaker 1: Campbell and the Ravens are back in business two years,
Speaker 1: twelve and a half million dollar deal. UH makes too
Speaker 1: much sense because Campbell has spent the last two years
Speaker 1: in Baltimore and has remained a really productive player greg
Speaker 1: both against the run and getting after the quarterback. There's
Speaker 1: a few Maybe he's not the same guy was five
Speaker 1: years ago, but still a big time productive talent. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't be on the street. I mean he looks like
Speaker 1: the same guy that he was when you were sidling
Speaker 1: up to him at some The biggest man I've ever
Speaker 1: like been goes out it was all or nothing Premier
Speaker 1: in Downtown l A. I mean, the deep the deepest
Speaker 1: voice in the game. There's one of one. You know,
Speaker 1: they say that a lot when when when people pass
Speaker 1: or but Klis game in terms of what he does
Speaker 1: as a player is a one of one. There's really
Speaker 1: kind of no one like him. His size, his ability
Speaker 1: and his um ability to not get any worse as
Speaker 1: he gets older. Like p F. If he goes to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and I think he'll have a chance,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be discussed. PFF will be part of
Speaker 1: the process because he's been one of the highest ranked
Speaker 1: like interior defensive lineman throughout the PF era, and I
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's helped the football COGNISCENTI really
Speaker 1: know and appreciate a player like him. He kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me a little a different style. But an Aaron Smith,
Speaker 1: who was with Pittsburgh awhile back, also a PFF favorite.
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick loved him. Was like Richard Seymour type, doing
Speaker 1: a lot of the dirty work that doesn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of the publicity or the stats. But the football heads, no,
Speaker 1: I love that PF. Has there been a PF Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer yet? And if there hasn't, would Campbell be
Speaker 1: the first? I think Andrew Whitworth will be the first test.
Speaker 1: I think he uh now became more famous later in
Speaker 1: his career because he joined the Rams and he started
Speaker 1: to get a few more All pros, and he ended
Speaker 1: how he ended. But I think for a while PF
Speaker 1: was kind of carrying the flag that hey, actually, I
Speaker 1: know there's Joe Thomas and Walter Jones and all these
Speaker 1: other guys, but Andrew Whitworth is one of the best
Speaker 1: three or four tackles in the league. Year after year
Speaker 1: they were saying that, and eventually I think everyone caught
Speaker 1: up so he could be the first class continues to
Speaker 1: be so good. I really thought that he was going
Speaker 1: to retire. Having had a chance to work with him
Speaker 1: on game day morning, this year during the playoffs, just
Speaker 1: talking with him, he was saying that he was trying
Speaker 1: out some different things in media and he liked it.
Speaker 1: And first of all, he is just the nicest guy
Speaker 1: in the world off the field. And yes, Dan, I
Speaker 1: can confirm he's the largest human being I've ever met.
Speaker 1: He's like a gentle giant. He's so cool too. I
Speaker 1: just had such a great time working with him. But
Speaker 1: he was so thoughtful in what we were doing for
Speaker 1: the show and the conversations that we were having. And
Speaker 1: I can tell that he is the same way on
Speaker 1: the field too. And you can see it when he
Speaker 1: plays the fact that he's known as a guy that
Speaker 1: gets after the quarterback, but these last few years he's
Speaker 1: been really used as a run stopper. But I just
Speaker 1: I like with Baltimore did bringing him back. There were
Speaker 1: reports that he turned down offers elsewhere to go back
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. The Ravens just brought back Josh Binds on Friday, Wagner,
Speaker 1: I love, Yeah. I want to be picking the Ravens
Speaker 1: as a big comeback team because football outsiders said the
Speaker 1: step that they were the most injured team in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years. Like they they they track adjusted games
Speaker 1: lost every year. It's just a number. And the Ravens
Speaker 1: were the least lucky, the most unlucky team in twenty years.
Speaker 1: And so to me, if you had added Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: and all the players coming back in all this but
Speaker 1: even then Campbell, they brought back Michael Pierce, so they
Speaker 1: used to have who was in Minnesota too. You feel
Speaker 1: good about the Ravens right now. I'm so. I'm saying
Speaker 1: they're just a natural candidate to totally bounce back. They
Speaker 1: were very unlucky towards the end of last year, losing
Speaker 1: all those close games, and we're just decimated by injuries. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was in conversation with Peter King recently and he
Speaker 1: believes Coasel that there could be five quarterbacks taken in
Speaker 1: the first round. Greggy this, well, I'm of two minds
Speaker 1: on this one, of course, because seth seems how it
Speaker 1: always works out. But to this year is like the
Speaker 1: ultimate test, because back in February before the combine, everyone
Speaker 1: was of the opinion there might not be any quarterbacks
Speaker 1: there maybe one that would go in the first round.
Speaker 1: But what happens after the Combine, after the pro days,
Speaker 1: as teams figure out the lay of the land after
Speaker 1: the agency, there's always going to be that hunger at
Speaker 1: the signal caller position. It is the ultimate test of that.
Speaker 1: I feel like the year that Christian Ponder and Jake
Speaker 1: Locker and all of them started going eight, ten, twelve
Speaker 1: was was where it got really crazy and they put
Speaker 1: all those guys on the cover with with Cam Newton
Speaker 1: on Sports Illustrated, and then this this draft is turning
Speaker 1: into a similar case. But it makes sense to me,
Speaker 1: first of all, when you go through all these players
Speaker 1: like they don't seem like that bad prospects. They seem
Speaker 1: all like borderline first round picks, right. And so if
Speaker 1: you're the Panthers or you're the Seahawks, or you're these
Speaker 1: teams that are being talked up the Steelers to maybe
Speaker 1: take them in the first round, are you gonna wait
Speaker 1: for round two? Are you just gonna take them? Just
Speaker 1: take them. I think that this year is so such
Speaker 1: a weird class with the quarterbacks though, and even the
Speaker 1: mock drafts that have come out from our guys here
Speaker 1: at NFL Network, like Bucky had one two weeks ago
Speaker 1: that came out had zero quarterbacks going in the first round.
Speaker 1: And that's something that I thought my actually be possible.
Speaker 1: But with the fifth year option, you know teams are
Speaker 1: going to trade into the back end. But I just
Speaker 1: don't know about this quarterback class compared to years past,
Speaker 1: because just based on everything that I've heard from insiders
Speaker 1: and scouts and teams, it's not a good class. And
Speaker 1: it seems like teams are going to always talk themselves
Speaker 1: into just taking a chance on someone. But if you
Speaker 1: draft a first round quarterback, then you're beholden to that
Speaker 1: and if that player isn't as good as maybe the
Speaker 1: scrub that you already have on your roster, you're in
Speaker 1: some trouble. Sam Donald does not need to be called
Speaker 1: too far, but that's they're the best example. And Josh
Speaker 1: Norris on Twitter to kind of pointed out they've traded
Speaker 1: back a ton in there at six, so they're a
Speaker 1: candidate to trade back and then take a Desmond or something.
Speaker 1: But like, are you really going to go through this
Speaker 1: quarterback and not go through this draft and not taking
Speaker 1: Are the Saints really getting out of this first round
Speaker 1: with those two picks without taking a quarter back? I
Speaker 1: don't know the Saints. I think take one. I think
Speaker 1: the Steelers probably will because that makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: especially with the tragic news of Haskins and then Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger not being there and having Mitchell. But I think
Speaker 1: the Lions are an interesting candidate to trade up because
Speaker 1: of that thirty second pick that they got from trading
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. They don't have any long term out So
Speaker 1: those examples are all good examples of teams that if
Speaker 1: it makes sense, if they're in a position to take
Speaker 1: a quarterback and they feel comfortable doing it where they
Speaker 1: are in the draft, yes, take a swing. Like Greg
Speaker 1: you always say, just keep taking swings. But the Panthers
Speaker 1: are that perfect example of the team that might be
Speaker 1: they've backed themselves into a corner here and now they
Speaker 1: had they might have to take a swing they're not
Speaker 1: even confident about, and that's usually when disaster strikes. But
Speaker 1: who knows. You Also, nobody knows anything, so they might
Speaker 1: hit on a guy that everyone roundly criticizes as being
Speaker 1: a bad pick, and then he becomes a good starter.
Speaker 1: Like the I don't know where guys get draft did
Speaker 1: so gets talked about a lot on draft weekend and
Speaker 1: then it fades away. Chad Chad Reuter a router on
Speaker 1: our website has three going in the top twelve, which
Speaker 1: is like that that feels like and whether it's right
Speaker 1: or not, And a lot of times the pre draft
Speaker 1: buzzes is not right. But the buzz at this moment
Speaker 1: is that they keep creeping up. And I think, I
Speaker 1: think it kind of makes sense because when you actually
Speaker 1: hear about all these guys, to me, they they sound attractive,
Speaker 1: like they sound like good prospects depending on what you're
Speaker 1: looking for, Like everyone looks at him differently. There's not
Speaker 1: some huge consensus, but I feel like each one you
Speaker 1: can make the case as a first round pick. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, We're about to take a break, but I
Speaker 1: just want to say something. Our YouTube page, which, by
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Speaker 1: At the A T N podcast and uh, let's take
Speaker 1: a break, We'll be right back, all right back, Let's
Speaker 1: hit the rest of the news before we get to
Speaker 1: the graybeards and Evans Silva. Oh boy, I mean, what
Speaker 1: is going on down there? The U s. House Oversight
Speaker 1: Committee sent a letter to the Federal Trade Commission saying
Speaker 1: it found evidence that the NFL's Washington Commanders engaged an
Speaker 1: unlawful financial conduct. In a letter obtained by the Associated Press,
Speaker 1: the it he said the team withheld ticket revenue from
Speaker 1: visiting teams and refundable ticket deposits from season ticket holders.
Speaker 1: The committee said emails this is all part of the
Speaker 1: Associated Press, documents and statements made by former employees indicate
Speaker 1: team executives and owner Dan Snyder engaged in a quote troubling,
Speaker 1: long running, and potentially unlawful pattern of financial conduct greg
Speaker 1: the Washington Football Team as they were known now the
Speaker 1: Commanders as they're currently known, have been connected to nefarious
Speaker 1: behavior UH for years now, and you wonder if something
Speaker 1: that involves money coming out of owners pockets it would
Speaker 1: be the thing that changes things in Washington. Well, it's
Speaker 1: all very public. This letter that one Congressman UH sent
Speaker 1: out from the Oversight Committee is was being released, and
Speaker 1: the NFL is not gonna say much. But I'm just
Speaker 1: reminded of Roger Goodell making it clear at the end
Speaker 1: of his last press conference that Dan Snyder was not
Speaker 1: running the Washington commanders and that he did not expect
Speaker 1: that to change anytime soon, which is I mean, a
Speaker 1: pretty drastic and um almost unprecedented situation for an NFL
Speaker 1: team owner. And all of this evidence that they're seeking
Speaker 1: and the accusations that they're making is all coming out
Speaker 1: of UH an investigation into their treatment in the workplace
Speaker 1: of women. So it's it's multiple things happening, and it's
Speaker 1: affecting the NFL in a very serious way that they
Speaker 1: don't want to it's unprecedented. We're not going to guess
Speaker 1: what what happens here, but I think it's safe to
Speaker 1: say it absolutely has the NFL's attention. Who I think
Speaker 1: if the owners find out that they were duped out
Speaker 1: of money and a lot of money that should have
Speaker 1: been there's then they're actually going to do something about this.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know of many things that would and
Speaker 1: a lot of shock waves to people. But when you
Speaker 1: take someone's money and you're like a billionaire, that's something
Speaker 1: that they care about. Right. You don't take money from
Speaker 1: billionaires and things will happen to you. Um, We'll see
Speaker 1: how this unfolds. Will continue to track it as more
Speaker 1: details come out. Some quickies before we wrap up the news.
Speaker 1: Wide receiver corner Brandon Cooks back to the Texans UH
Speaker 1: on a two year extension. I believe good for him,
Speaker 1: hopefully let's get traded. That he's been a wildly productive
Speaker 1: receiver over the course. He's getting the benefit of this
Speaker 1: whole Like every wide receiver gets a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is like, hey man, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's the equivalent of the NBA players. Just like I'm
Speaker 1: a bucket, I'm a thousand yards, he's a bucket. He's
Speaker 1: a thousand yards. No matter what you can stick him
Speaker 1: on the Texans, he's gonna get a thousand years. I
Speaker 1: like to what pet Hamilton's said that Brandon Cooks provides
Speaker 1: a level of paranoia for defensive I like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks the selling point he could represent himself. I
Speaker 1: will give you exactly yards and six to seven touchdowns
Speaker 1: every year. Is that good enough for you? Does that?
Speaker 1: Is there a place on your roster for me? Brandon Cooks?
Speaker 1: I the most interesting thing about that that the Texans
Speaker 1: like actually wanted to keep someone I've been waiting, like
Speaker 1: because there was this talk that they might end up
Speaker 1: trading Cooks, and I was starting to wonder, like, what
Speaker 1: is the point of the Texans here? That's bad for him?
Speaker 1: He is constantly like it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's true with the the whole Seattle rumors of trading
Speaker 1: DK metcalf Or or even the AG But I don't
Speaker 1: know where this stuff is coming from. But it's like,
Speaker 1: what is the point of the Seahawks if if you're
Speaker 1: just trying to trade away your best players? Because like
Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't work, that it's never worked. This
Speaker 1: isn't the NBA. Like you're not good at drafting right now,
Speaker 1: so you're saying and I'll use it. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like you want to have good young players. Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: I can almost put him in a different boat. But
Speaker 1: you have a guy in your twenties, Why are you
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of good players? I don't get that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll use a baseball analogy. Before they were caught cheating,
Speaker 1: the Astros were famous for they stripped it down all
Speaker 1: the way down to the studs and over I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and then through good drafting built a superpower. Do we
Speaker 1: have any evidence that that works in the NFL. But
Speaker 1: there are teams that you're seeing it right now with
Speaker 1: the Jets for instance, so the Lions. But you still
Speaker 1: need to have the right leadership, and then you gotta
Speaker 1: get lucky on several picks working out. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot to build a team from. I
Speaker 1: know that the Cowboys have done a really good job
Speaker 1: in the draft, uh these years past, what they've done
Speaker 1: in the first round, I mean they've gotten like seven
Speaker 1: of their last first round picks. Uh, seven of their
Speaker 1: eight last first round picks were all hertel Walker trade
Speaker 1: is a perfect example. But that was thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: That was that was their one good asset on those
Speaker 1: Dallas teams and Jerry Jones first took over at Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson sent him to the Vikings and took those picks
Speaker 1: and built a dynasty. It can be done, but it's
Speaker 1: very difficult. But it's getting rid of good players doesn't
Speaker 1: help you get other good players. That's the was my point. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can get extra a couple of you can, like
Speaker 1: you can get a couple of extra draft picks, but
Speaker 1: all you're hoping to do is somehow find a DK
Speaker 1: metcalf in that known commodity versus the draft, and what's
Speaker 1: going to happen. It's kind of like if you look
Speaker 1: at the cap space in the league now, there's a
Speaker 1: lot less teams that are grolling in every year with
Speaker 1: way too much cap space because I think gms have
Speaker 1: realized partly due to the Rams and and Eagles and
Speaker 1: and Titans and Patriots and how some teams have run.
Speaker 1: It's like you're wasting money with cat What is the
Speaker 1: point of cap space? You should be maxing out to
Speaker 1: win every year or else you're gonna lose and you're
Speaker 1: gonna get fired. It's like a two year league, So
Speaker 1: getting rid of good young players get greg what is
Speaker 1: the point of anything, really gonna get fired. Titans. Uh
Speaker 1: coach Mike Brabel says, when A J. Brown hits the
Speaker 1: trade block, I will not be the head coach. So
Speaker 1: that was struck down very hard. A J. Brown leaving
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Terry mclaura and your boy Greg not negotiating
Speaker 1: with Washington. Keep an eye on that. Everyone is talking
Speaker 1: about a J. Brown DK metcalf. But if there's a
Speaker 1: wide receiver hungry team out there, we know there are several. Uh.
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin is well respected by people that follow the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: where is this coming from? Is there any It doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like the Titans are at all intry. I think
Speaker 1: it's just this feels like it's just coming out of
Speaker 1: it from screen. Digger said that it wasn't serious. I
Speaker 1: took that as God. That's I've moved forward on that um.
Speaker 1: And finally or two things. The Broncos, Texans, Jaguars, Raiders, Vikings,
Speaker 1: and Bucks all have started their voluntary workouts dead last
Speaker 1: on that list. Cincinnati Bengals by a wide margin, the
Speaker 1: last to start workouts. And you know, I think you
Speaker 1: can maybe look at the success they had last year,
Speaker 1: and I think Connie, this goes in all walks of life.
Speaker 1: You can't rest on your laurels. You can't just assume
Speaker 1: you're going to get back to that point or take
Speaker 1: the next step. And Cincinnati hunting on an early start
Speaker 1: to voluntary workouts. Don't tell me they played May had
Speaker 1: a long playoff run. I don't care. That's in the past.
Speaker 1: Show me that you're serious about winning tomorrow, not yesterday.
Speaker 1: I would say rest and recovery is just as important
Speaker 1: as working out. It's all part of working out, really,
Speaker 1: and that's how you maximize things. So not work harder,
Speaker 1: work smarter, work that old bite. It is interesting though,
Speaker 1: that they're so far behind everyone, Like, I think they're
Speaker 1: two weeks thank you behind everyone? Are you listening, Colleen?
Speaker 1: Greg's agreeing with me. They got to the Super Bowl. Greg.
Speaker 1: Tell Connie, because I don't think she's educated on this,
Speaker 1: tell her how they are. I'm looking through it. It's
Speaker 1: two weeks behind. Oh, I think I found why Connie
Speaker 1: is not dialing into this. So they're two weeks behind
Speaker 1: every team in the entire league, including the champion Rams.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're coming back to work. Are you going
Speaker 1: to let the man's plain to take them down? Listen?
Speaker 1: Someone that doesn't enjoy working out. I completely co signed.
Speaker 1: I'm aligned with what the Bengals are doing right now,
Speaker 1: and I think they're doing a fabulous job and they
Speaker 1: could do whatever they whet out. Why not show up
Speaker 1: week one? Now it's the what month is it? Even?
Speaker 1: It's April? Like, who cares? They're gonna have other workouts.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have They're gonna have a whole check check
Speaker 1: back with me in October. Their first day is two
Speaker 1: weeks after everyone else except for one team. You know,
Speaker 1: who else is changing the game? Who was actually taking
Speaker 1: the longest rest? You have? Any team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: Colleen's own Philadelphic exactly. This is this is what you do.
Speaker 1: You know, this is why Lyle Collins left Dallas and
Speaker 1: went to Cincinnati and immediately got a Bengals tattoo on them.
Speaker 1: So they're just working out though they're just they're not
Speaker 1: a actually out in the field. I watched when I
Speaker 1: watched the Eagles of the playoffs in January, my first
Speaker 1: thought was take a long break, You've earned it. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe they could just stop after two quarters. Uh
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Speaker 1: at one a t N in the background to the
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Speaker 1: in training camp. I believe it was an achilles. Uh
Speaker 1: missed the entire season. He met with the media as
Speaker 1: part of voluntary workouts for Jacksonville, and he had a
Speaker 1: nice little funny line about, you know, the timing, the
Speaker 1: ill timing of his injury, but also there was a
Speaker 1: time to miss a year. I'm glad I don't have
Speaker 1: to go through that. No, not definitely, just that's just
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Speaker 1: take a break and then welcome to Evan Silva and
Speaker 1: hit the Gray Beards. Two gras, Great Beers were good.
Speaker 1: Save the day, Great Bears. Just give us one lesson.
Speaker 1: We're here today, gone tomorrow. Will you watch all follow
Speaker 1: which don't mean I cannot play. He will see me
Speaker 1: the day, he will see me lee the way Grave
Speaker 1: Bears never go away, Graves never goes My hero. Watch
Speaker 1: him as he's going, I'm gonna kill you, Dan, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill you. There goes my hero. He's over thirted
Speaker 1: Gray Beards twenty two calling excellent backing box there all,
Speaker 1: I HOWD used the dry run you and I I
Speaker 1: understand that I didn't know that you were singing it.
Speaker 1: You thought I was asking you to sing the entire songs,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know if I can
Speaker 1: do that. I'm just wondering why am I up here?
Speaker 1: I feel so awkward. You should have had me leave
Speaker 1: the room sitting behind. We're gonna work on that together
Speaker 1: and we will redeem This was like I saw as
Speaker 1: part of the Great urn in It show that Lakisha
Speaker 1: j was featured on. All the preparation that went into
Speaker 1: Mary J. Black his halftime performance, just days and days
Speaker 1: of going over that a couple of minutes just to
Speaker 1: get it right, and that's what I felt like I
Speaker 1: was with. This was like the Cincinnati Bengals version of
Speaker 1: that all right here he is patiently waiting Evan Silva
Speaker 1: the King the big Fish. And imagine Evan for the
Speaker 1: second straight year sitting through that song. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I I that is something I make sure to do.
Speaker 1: I want Evan to get into the feeling of the
Speaker 1: Gray Beards, my collection of thirty and over remaining free
Speaker 1: agents un rostered players to use some established the run parlance. Evan,
Speaker 1: what's up? Buddy? What's this? Is definitely not only our
Speaker 1: second year doing this, because I remember when you first
Speaker 1: asked me. I think it was four or five years ago,
Speaker 1: Dan showing showing how memorable I am that you think
Speaker 1: it's only been two years. I was still at oh
Speaker 1: two with the song. Yes, I was still at I
Speaker 1: was still at wrote a world. When you first asked me,
Speaker 1: I wrote out like all these burbs. I took like
Speaker 1: a single blurb, and I still four years later, I
Speaker 1: don't really know what my role here is, but I
Speaker 1: am I'm happy to cheer on this team because I
Speaker 1: think that this year's Gray gray Beards are going to
Speaker 1: score a lot of points. Okay, it depends just to help.
Speaker 1: As someone that's worked with Dan a long time, certain shows,
Speaker 1: it's just you're gonna be a puppet on a string.
Speaker 1: He's the marionette guy, he's the master. It's not true
Speaker 1: that not every show, no no, but there's just some
Speaker 1: special Dan shows. This is it that well, this is
Speaker 1: what's important here. Thank you, Greg. What's important here for
Speaker 1: you to understand, Evan, If if I haven't made myself clear,
Speaker 1: is you are. I look at you as like a
Speaker 1: consigliari my roster consigliari when it comes to the graybeards,
Speaker 1: and you are the compass to let me know if
Speaker 1: I've gone astray, if there are people that should be
Speaker 1: on the roster but aren't people, and vice versa, and uh.
Speaker 1: The article has been on NFL dot com since last
Speaker 1: week and because of the changing, shifting landscape of free
Speaker 1: agency and how veterans um approach free agency. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: there are more high quality players available now than I
Speaker 1: can ever remember in the eight years I've done this exercise.
Speaker 1: And even in the four or five days since this
Speaker 1: one Live Connie, only one player came off the free
Speaker 1: agent wire. It was Clais Campbell who so we have
Speaker 1: to replace Calais in the middle of our defense. But
Speaker 1: otherwise this roster is locked and loaded still, So Evan,
Speaker 1: I hope that brings some clarity. And I do remember
Speaker 1: when I asked you, uh several years back to add
Speaker 1: some um blurbs and I thought I would get two
Speaker 1: lines and then you gave me like giant paragraphs. And
Speaker 1: remember thinking, I feel so bad because it was like
Speaker 1: a writing assignment and wasn't even your website. That was
Speaker 1: a miscommunication, just like Connie and I just now with
Speaker 1: that right, Well, I think what we need and I
Speaker 1: mean Colleen didn't in podcast appearances. Colleen didn't practice at all.
Speaker 1: I think what we need to do is you got
Speaker 1: to send the lyrics over to Evan, and this segment
Speaker 1: needs to end with Evan seeing the backing the backing bat.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that. I'm not gonna ask
Speaker 1: you to do anything beyond what we're doing, but what
Speaker 1: we could do, we could we could do a take
Speaker 1: two to close the epp. Oh we have to do
Speaker 1: it again. Well, you have to do it, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to redeem yourself. Well, I do want to
Speaker 1: issue an official apology. For being tone deaf. Just putting
Speaker 1: that out there first and foremost. That reminds me of
Speaker 1: Chris Wessling, who, when he was in Catholic school on
Speaker 1: the West side of Cincinnati, struggled in chorus class so
Speaker 1: badly that the nun put his ear to the piano
Speaker 1: to learn tone. So West was not a practicing Catholic
Speaker 1: by the end of his life. I'll just say that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. That is an incredible
Speaker 1: story that I forgot about. He always leading into the
Speaker 1: fact that he was the least musical person he ever
Speaker 1: met and rhythm, but he loved music. He just was not, Yes,
Speaker 1: he was not. He was not going to be ever
Speaker 1: singing backing box uh for graybeards. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Enough messing around. Evan's busy. Evan is the
Speaker 1: big fish for a reason. Established the run is uh.
Speaker 1: It has been a huge success, hasn't in Evan. It's
Speaker 1: been a fun ride, absolutely, that's established Run dot Com
Speaker 1: just established run on Twitter, alright, so check that out
Speaker 1: for really great analysis on the sport and on the
Speaker 1: fantasy end of things. Let's get to the roster, and
Speaker 1: I do believe without a doubt and you guys can disagree.
Speaker 1: I know it's it's hard to kind of remember the
Speaker 1: past years, but this is the best roster ever. In fact,
Speaker 1: by far. I have them at ten and seven. I
Speaker 1: have them as going to the dance and look, Evans,
Speaker 1: Jake nodded his head, my consigliary. So let's see where
Speaker 1: we come down. We'll start at quarterback. Okay. That yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your first problem in terms of going and tenant seven.
Speaker 1: It's a problem, but also there's some magic involved. It's
Speaker 1: fits magic. He is on he's on the wire still.
Speaker 1: He's aged thirty nine, turning forty in November, coming off
Speaker 1: obviously the hip injury that ruined his season last year,
Speaker 1: but fits its starter. And I can't believe it, Gino
Speaker 1: Smith over Cam Newton as my backup. Grag it through
Speaker 1: a little bone there. I know you love. This feels
Speaker 1: like coming full circle for you and your geno relationship.
Speaker 1: That you would unfairly maligned him for what happened in
Speaker 1: New York. I think that's a lot of stretch. Is
Speaker 1: there anyone else, Evan, that you could think of a
Speaker 1: quarterback that's out there that might have been Would you
Speaker 1: put Cam ahead of Geno or even fits for instance. No,
Speaker 1: And you know I actually made my own gray beards
Speaker 1: without even reading your article, and these were the uh.
Speaker 1: And then I went back and reviewed and we wound
Speaker 1: up with seem two quarterbacks. My issue is that with
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, I just don't know what his health status is.
Speaker 1: He's thirty nine, He's coming off a dislocated hip, you
Speaker 1: know why. I mean, he's generated very little buzz there,
Speaker 1: haven't haven't even been you know, any rumors of him
Speaker 1: doing anything. Is he's just gonna hang it up, you know,
Speaker 1: or signed with the team. Maybe during the season. Geno
Speaker 1: Smith could begin the season as our would would Ryan,
Speaker 1: we we have to put him on reserve pup in
Speaker 1: the year. Geno Smith in three starts for Seattle last year.
Speaker 1: Passer rated okay, so he could carry us through the
Speaker 1: first few games. Well, he's going to be suspended to
Speaker 1: for a d U I probably, but in this world
Speaker 1: maybe you know, all right, that sets up nicely. Don't
Speaker 1: trust those TMZ cops sources. That's all I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: if you know the story, you know, uh, there's just
Speaker 1: a lot of bad, bad reporting out there. When it
Speaker 1: came to this, only Greg would dig in deep on
Speaker 1: the police report reporting on Genus This Rightan Fitzpatrick's a
Speaker 1: thirty nine year old just had hip surgery. I sort
Speaker 1: of assumed he was just gonna walk away because uh,
Speaker 1: he he doesn't want to ruin the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: That seems like a tough way to go out, but
Speaker 1: it also seems like a warning not to play football again.
Speaker 1: The last report was that no immediate decision had been made,
Speaker 1: and then he he might try to stay ready and
Speaker 1: then see what he's thinking in like September, you know,
Speaker 1: like be on the call list, but telling teams like
Speaker 1: and don't bother with me for now. I'm just I
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the off season. So yes,
Speaker 1: there's some risk here at quarterbacks, but um, at the
Speaker 1: same time fits Magic Connie at running back. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like the group here. I don't love it. I
Speaker 1: like it this. This team is gonna get stronger as
Speaker 1: we as we go along. Jack McKinnon. Last time you
Speaker 1: saw him, he was getting snaps over former first round
Speaker 1: pick Clyde Edwards Hilaire in the playoffs. In fact, he
Speaker 1: had over three total yards in a touch across three contests.
Speaker 1: He's my starter. Uh, and I have David Johnson. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's left with David Johnson at this point,
Speaker 1: but he's a guy who can catch the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. He's a professional. You could do some
Speaker 1: handles and blitz is things of that nature. That's my
Speaker 1: one too. There, what do you think, Connie? Look, this
Speaker 1: is going to be a position that no matter what
Speaker 1: year it is for the gray Beards, it's going to
Speaker 1: be a thin spot for them on the roster because
Speaker 1: running backs over thirty years old. Like, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: decline there. So well, did you listen to the lyrics?
Speaker 1: I know you we the song? There's there's doubting of
Speaker 1: people that tried to black the song out. The said though,
Speaker 1: like it's mentioned how you're over thirty, right, right, but
Speaker 1: you you have to then add in a little disclaimer
Speaker 1: inside the song. Jack McKinnon doesn't turn thirty into me.
Speaker 1: That's all these guys at thirty at some point. But
Speaker 1: here are the lyrics, and I know Evan has them
Speaker 1: committed to memory. But if you're not aware, age don't
Speaker 1: mean I cannot play. You will see me lead the way.
Speaker 1: Gray beards never go away. So the assumption that you're
Speaker 1: making it that these guys can't hacken anymore. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just team builders think that you turn thirty and you
Speaker 1: can't play running back anymore. And I don't think it's true.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's not so much the age for me,
Speaker 1: it's really these two players. They don't get me that excited.
Speaker 1: I am actually really loving the wide receivers that we
Speaker 1: want to move to that let's hit the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: This is has been wrong about David Johnson too too
Speaker 1: long in his career, too many times. Probably that I'll
Speaker 1: let you spee. I'm just saying, who further dis misinformation.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying David Johnson must have earned just about
Speaker 1: every fantasy head there for a couple of years. All
Speaker 1: at one point he looked like the guy, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a steady series of underperformance. Basically,
Speaker 1: the thing is with with Jared McKinney David Johnson, they
Speaker 1: can both function in the passing game. It's a passing league.
Speaker 1: And if you look at our wide receiver crew coming
Speaker 1: up and potentially our tight end corps, uh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be throwing the ball a lot. But you don't want
Speaker 1: to be like Pete carrollood Gina. You want to let
Speaker 1: Jina throw the ball the wide receivers. Odell Beckham, who's
Speaker 1: turning thirty in November. Uh, Antonio Brown, listen, I know
Speaker 1: he's a knuckle head, but this is a fake team.
Speaker 1: And because it's a fake team, his knuckle head him
Speaker 1: can't hurt me. Jarvis Landry, also thirty in November, and
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. That was kind of a tough decision. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe Julio would not be my fourth guy, could
Speaker 1: go with a J. Green for instance, or any number
Speaker 1: of other players that were out there. Uh, but I
Speaker 1: guess I just got sucked in a little bit by
Speaker 1: the name brand. What do you think of about this
Speaker 1: group coming? All right? I like that you have of
Speaker 1: Beckham and Jarvis Landry teaming back up again. That has
Speaker 1: to happen. It's it's has to. But I mean Beckham,
Speaker 1: I think that what he was able to do with
Speaker 1: the Rams, the fact that he was able to latch
Speaker 1: on with them and have the playoffs that he did. Uh,
Speaker 1: despite the outcome in the Super Bowl, for him, Look,
Speaker 1: he increased his value. He's going to latch on with
Speaker 1: the team. Obviously they have to wait because of the injury,
Speaker 1: but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he ends up
Speaker 1: where um with Julio Jones old quarterback Matt Ryan with
Speaker 1: the Colts maybe um, But I love I love these
Speaker 1: wide receivers. It's a good team. Silva. What do you think?
Speaker 1: And I'm curious what your for were when you did
Speaker 1: the same exercise. Yeah, Odell Beckham, Julio Jones, Jarvis Landry,
Speaker 1: and Tonio Browns are the exact same four, and then
Speaker 1: you mentioned a J. Green. We've also got t Y Hilton,
Speaker 1: who I think could be effective as like snapped player,
Speaker 1: and then Cole Beasley as our backup slot behind Jarvis Landry.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we've got some depth. We just
Speaker 1: barely missed on same Watkins, who is somehow still years old.
Speaker 1: Well that's actually progress because he was fifteen years exactly.
Speaker 1: And then Will Fuller we barely missed on. I couldn't
Speaker 1: disagree with you guys more on this wide receiver. How
Speaker 1: is a j First of all, Beasley, you can't sign him, uh,
Speaker 1: even like as an option because the Gray Beards famously
Speaker 1: play a lot of their schedule in Canada. Uh, and
Speaker 1: so his vaccination status comes into play there. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like the seventies sixers Toronto. It's a trouble. It's troubling. Uh.
Speaker 1: How is a J. Green not on this team? A J.
Speaker 1: Green got eight hundred and sixty yards last year going deep.
Speaker 1: He's a vertical receiver. If you bringing him to camp,
Speaker 1: all right, he's going to compete now. And I don't
Speaker 1: want Antonio Brown on my team. Uh. And if you
Speaker 1: add up Julio Jones and Odell Beckham's like production last year,
Speaker 1: it adds up to like a J. Green. I mean
Speaker 1: this a man that was out there producing. I mean
Speaker 1: he was okay, he was. He made some big plays
Speaker 1: and you're not going to get a lot of verticality
Speaker 1: on the gray Beard can go down the field. And
Speaker 1: I don't want Antonio Brown. That's my thing. That all right,
Speaker 1: And that's great. But you know who did want to
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and his team, Tom Brady. So I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the goats opinion. Not anymore. I
Speaker 1: mean not anymore. I do trust Antonio Brown is a
Speaker 1: deep He's a very versatile receiver, Antonio Brown, But I
Speaker 1: trust them more as a deep threat than a j
Speaker 1: Grain or Julio Jones at this state. You don't think
Speaker 1: that the Antonio Brown situation with Bruce Arians kind of
Speaker 1: played at least a small role in the Tom Brady saga.
Speaker 1: What that that had the coach had absolutely no control
Speaker 1: over his players. I don't think Tom Brady has actually
Speaker 1: was looking. I think never wanted Antonio Brown there. He
Speaker 1: actually said that publicly, and then he was looking for
Speaker 1: a reason. I mean, I think Antonio Brown was hurt,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he didn't practice all that week. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was like some phantom and I
Speaker 1: think it was probably the like giving up in the
Speaker 1: middle of the game and then sending a bunch of
Speaker 1: Instagram posts that Tom Brady. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the guy who's defending Antonio Brown, but I think that
Speaker 1: it may have played a little bit more of a
Speaker 1: rule Julio just pure player, uh, pure skill level of
Speaker 1: what we saw. He might be the guy that would
Speaker 1: get the boot. I was gonna ask you that if
Speaker 1: you would swap, But I don't want Antonio Brown on
Speaker 1: the team anymore. Alright, let's finish off the offense. Then
Speaker 1: we'll take a break and hit the defense tight ends
Speaker 1: Gronk uh and Jared Cook and uh, I love I
Speaker 1: love this combo Gronk. You know he's saying he's not
Speaker 1: ready to commit about playing another season football, but we
Speaker 1: know what he's doing here. He just doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be involved with boring Todd Bowles zoom calls and he'd
Speaker 1: rather be to play with the Gray Beards and Jared Cook.
Speaker 1: Evan he remains a compelling target who can get into
Speaker 1: a playmaker's groove every once in a while. Yeah, these
Speaker 1: are the same two tight ends that I ended up with.
Speaker 1: Uh just Smith on Eric Ebron who would have given
Speaker 1: us some depth, but he just turned twenty nine. One
Speaker 1: of these guys that has been around forever and you
Speaker 1: know it's still really young. I think Cook is good
Speaker 1: to have on your team. You know you're in a
Speaker 1: red zone situation. Um, you're looking for someone that can
Speaker 1: just like drop a perfectly placed gino. Smith has or
Speaker 1: maybe or maybe have like an illegal procedure on a
Speaker 1: great play to one of your wide receiver area. That's
Speaker 1: Jared Cook in a big spot has had moments. Check
Speaker 1: out that playoff game. How many games do the Great
Speaker 1: Beards have to play? We're playing a full schedule. It's
Speaker 1: a full games, so you don't okay, you don't cut
Speaker 1: the money breaks at all, just you know, because the
Speaker 1: age that's that's inappropriate. Offensive line. I got Dwayne Brown
Speaker 1: on the left side at the left tackle blindside spot,
Speaker 1: Quentin Spawn the cast off of Cincinnati, Matt Paradise at center,
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams at right guard, Eric Fisher at right tackle.
Speaker 1: I think this is another all time best positional group
Speaker 1: to the gray Bear Gray Beards. Uh Evan, I don't
Speaker 1: think this is, you know, a group of all pros,
Speaker 1: but a bunch of steady guys and Dwayne Brown who
Speaker 1: has the resume to be all pro, you know, and
Speaker 1: also J. C. Trader is still out there at center,
Speaker 1: and um Riley Reef is still out there at right tackle.
Speaker 1: Like I know, this probably sounds like hyperbole, but I
Speaker 1: think that if we get with these seven guys or
Speaker 1: so that we've named, it could be better than some
Speaker 1: of the offensive lines in the actual NFL. There's no
Speaker 1: question this is better than the Panther's offensive line right
Speaker 1: now by far? Is so sad? I mean preparative center? Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe bringing Trader? What do you think, Dan though Trader
Speaker 1: NFL p a president um pushing. You know, he's pushing
Speaker 1: for a lot of players to ask for guaranteed. Are
Speaker 1: you a little worried about what he might bring in
Speaker 1: for players rights? Are you a player friendly owner of
Speaker 1: the group? Well, I don't know. I don't approve of
Speaker 1: locker room lawyers. If here, he would be the definition
Speaker 1: of it. But at the same time, I value him.
Speaker 1: He's an educated guy. He's obviously, um well educated on
Speaker 1: these issues. So I don't I like bringing in people
Speaker 1: that have different thoughts. This team is very, very uh
Speaker 1: open minded on a lot of levels. Let's take a
Speaker 1: break at the defense. All right, here we go. It's
Speaker 1: hit the edge. Melvin Ingram, Justin Houston, Jerry Hughes, j
Speaker 1: p P. Here is a stat greggy that really jumps
Speaker 1: out to me. I know we talked about how JPP
Speaker 1: disappeared down the stretch, but this guy was a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion in a huge part of that winning team.
Speaker 1: He ranked dead last among a hundred and eight qualified
Speaker 1: edge rushers according to PFF last year, dead last. I'm
Speaker 1: giving him the old fresh start reset button with the
Speaker 1: gray beards, but I cannot ignore that's that either Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd probably be the one. The other three great picks
Speaker 1: for the gray beards, Ingram, Houston, Hughes, those guys are
Speaker 1: in We're in my top one oh one, couple of
Speaker 1: them in my top fifty. Still still out there. I
Speaker 1: think I would replace jpp Um Everson Griffin maybe still
Speaker 1: out there. Throw him in there. Mario Addison good, good
Speaker 1: locker room guy. We know Mark has the relationship with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. No shortage, no shortage of options here.
Speaker 1: We we we did lose as you mentioned, Klais Campbell,
Speaker 1: and we it looks like we're about to lose Melvin
Speaker 1: Ingram potentially to the Dolphins. But I mean, look, there's
Speaker 1: a reason that all these guys are out there, and
Speaker 1: it's because of their age and their their production has
Speaker 1: been waning. Um, I'm not too optimistic about this d line.
Speaker 1: A lot, a lot of big names, but not a
Speaker 1: lot of recent productions. Well, if I can get a
Speaker 1: few more guys, you know, rotationally here, maybe we can
Speaker 1: get We have to play this right the days of
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul playing of the Snaps. We gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta max that way, we gotta minimalize that that can't
Speaker 1: feel like though you're hitting on like an inefficiency in
Speaker 1: the NFL market here. I mean Justin Houston and Hughes
Speaker 1: now would I would throw into this mix. Keeps signing
Speaker 1: one year deals and they're worth a lot there end
Speaker 1: up playing better than a lot of these young guys
Speaker 1: who get the big country. I think that when we
Speaker 1: get to the interior defense of my chem Hicks is
Speaker 1: a guy that can still play, and he's he's in
Speaker 1: a but he's been hurt a lot, but he can
Speaker 1: still play. I just I don't know about Justin Houston
Speaker 1: and even Pure Paul. I mean, his production was way down.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the poster boy of what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me that he hasn't been one of
Speaker 1: the best values in the NFL the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Just sits around. Yeah, you're worried about the edge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on my interior, Chiem Hicks. As we said, we got
Speaker 1: to replace Calias Claias, Calias, lynn Vell, Joseph and uh
Speaker 1: Dominican Sue, who, by the way, also get to put
Speaker 1: on the cover of the media guide. That helps put
Speaker 1: some meat in the seats. Also these name brands, so
Speaker 1: it's good to meet in the seats in the seats
Speaker 1: have they started offseason voluntary? Also, they're just working their
Speaker 1: asses off since February. A J. Johnson, Dante high Tower,
Speaker 1: Anthony barr My linebackers. Any thoughts on that group? Connie Silva? Silva,
Speaker 1: what do you think of them? I just pulled up
Speaker 1: this article. It's okay, it's all right, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not horrible, it's not embarrassing. I gotta say it wasn't
Speaker 1: overly familiar with A. J. Johnson's work before you brought
Speaker 1: it up, but he did start a lot of games
Speaker 1: over the last few years. Donta hide Towers a leader
Speaker 1: in the locker room, no doubt. Maybe maybe he's looking
Speaker 1: for a new challenge team captain, do you have Well,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. A lot of leadership, of leadership
Speaker 1: would have been of leadership. Yeah. A J. Johnson has
Speaker 1: a checker in history. Um, but got into the league
Speaker 1: and got started late, but was a starter for Vic
Speaker 1: Fonzi a last year. But it's reminding me back into
Speaker 1: him back in on that that used to be like
Speaker 1: a diamond and the rough type guy. Um, here's my
Speaker 1: secondary and it's this is very interesting too, because cornerback
Speaker 1: Greg you know, um has long been an achilles heel
Speaker 1: of the Graybeards because forgot about running back. You got
Speaker 1: these old corners that are just getting roasted. It's it's
Speaker 1: not good. But now we have Stephan Gilmore, who you
Speaker 1: put him in man coverage on the outside, put him
Speaker 1: on an island, let him do his thing, don't get out,
Speaker 1: don't overcomplicated. Put him in the right scheme, and we will. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's a lockdown number one to me, Steven Nelson, he's
Speaker 1: an undersized grinder on the opposite side, he'll take care
Speaker 1: of business. Bryce Callahan put him in the slot. I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good about that. And then you rounded out with
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit Jenkins and Joe Hayden is a veteran presence there.
Speaker 1: I feel really good about the corners and I've never
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be able to mask our upfront
Speaker 1: pass rush uh bereftness with our our coverage ability on
Speaker 1: the back end. I mean, Stephron Gilmore somehow made the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl playing only nine. That was stupid. He was
Speaker 1: playing the last couple of weeks. He was good. He
Speaker 1: was good when he played. I mean he was good.
Speaker 1: Literally and he played like thirty snaps a game for
Speaker 1: seven games. And they had a bunch of young dudes
Speaker 1: that they had there too, that they weren't mixing. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I think Stefan Gilmore can still play. Stephen Nelson
Speaker 1: is fine, you know. And I've always liked Bryce Callahan
Speaker 1: as a slot corners, just he can never stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I do not want to dig into our depth and
Speaker 1: have to rely on Jack Rabbit Jenkins, you know. So
Speaker 1: these guys gotta stay healthy. But I like how we're
Speaker 1: looking early in the year. Didn't you better watch out
Speaker 1: because Steven Nelson he reportedly visited the Texans, so you
Speaker 1: might be losing him. I won't because once a gray beard,
Speaker 1: always a gray beard. Once it goes live on the site,
Speaker 1: it's over. You talked about on this pod. It's interesting
Speaker 1: to see Dan as a GM start to adopt some
Speaker 1: NFL philosophies here, like the Ravens, maybe the Dolphins in
Speaker 1: previous years, you know, building the defense back to front.
Speaker 1: This is this is it's a strong secondary umbrella. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have six guys out there every snap. This is
Speaker 1: this is. This is a better secondary than some in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Thank you. For noticing that this is more
Speaker 1: corners than I've ever had in the roster. But I
Speaker 1: understand the way the least uh and this is this
Speaker 1: is Tyrone Matthew at safety. So you're telling me the
Speaker 1: Graybeards here in the middle of April have Honey Badger
Speaker 1: and Steph Gilmore on the roster. Pinch me, Evan pinched me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: pinch me, No, I agree with you. Look I like
Speaker 1: our back end. Actually have to pinch him. It's an expression.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're in Chicago. It's it's impossible even if
Speaker 1: you were here, you wouldn't pinch me. Rodney McLeod our
Speaker 1: other safety just signed with someone that well not before
Speaker 1: this article went live. Always a gray Beard. Finally Special
Speaker 1: Team Sam Fiking. That's that's a dart throw. I wish
Speaker 1: I could sea bass in there, but that is with
Speaker 1: the cow the Colts. We should just put the people
Speaker 1: should be aware of that. And Thomas Morris dead is
Speaker 1: my punter. I believe he's been on the Gray Beards
Speaker 1: for like eight straight years and he just signed a
Speaker 1: contract with the Dolphins. But it is what his coaching staff,
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer get in that big chair. You deserve it,
Speaker 1: and I like his style. He's gray beards all the way.
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning got on the horn and called the old
Speaker 1: Zeuser and said, hey, this Adam Gaze. You want to
Speaker 1: give him another shot? And I did not want to down.
Speaker 1: I gotta put my foot down here. Man, we're not
Speaker 1: doing this, all right, Conia, We're not doing this Adam Gaze. No, no, Well,
Speaker 1: Peyton said that he's misunderstood and deserves a new chance
Speaker 1: with a new roster. You don't think being nice? Okay?
Speaker 1: What does Peyton care about the gray beards like he
Speaker 1: cares our offensive coordinator? Oh okay, I'll get on the
Speaker 1: horn with him. Vic Fagio at d C. I love it.
Speaker 1: And then I always have Mike west Off as my
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. Always Havny four years young. I think
Speaker 1: you could have a repeat of when the Houston Oilers
Speaker 1: coaches on the sideline was a Gilbride and and Buddy
Speaker 1: r Foio and Zimmer both China. At some point someone's
Speaker 1: throwing a bunch. I love it, and think about you
Speaker 1: feed Zimmer a couple of beers on the team plane.
Speaker 1: The Kirk Cousins stories that you're gonna get. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: got a lot to tell. Final evaluation. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I have him a tenant seven. We're going to the dance,
Speaker 1: and uh, that's putting a lot of faith obviously in
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick coming back from this hip injury. But I
Speaker 1: just think it's a really solid roster. And again, as
Speaker 1: I always say, and West used to be brutally honest,
Speaker 1: and I was happy that he was. He would hit
Speaker 1: me with two and fourteens one in fifteens, very on
Speaker 1: the rag. I want everyone's seventeen game evaluation starting with you, Greg.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go four and I actually I
Speaker 1: think that's higher than most years. Maybe we'll go five
Speaker 1: and twelve. I think as always injuries four to five.
Speaker 1: I think injuries are always a concern. I think you're
Speaker 1: very slow at the linebacker position, the front seven. I
Speaker 1: love Gino um building an offense, understand building an offense
Speaker 1: around Gino throwing the ball forty times a game. It's
Speaker 1: gonna have its ups and downs for sure. All Right, Connie, Okay, Greg,
Speaker 1: thank you for your honesty. I appreciate it. I'm going
Speaker 1: to go is apologize from the outburst. Okay, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that I think the gray Beards are going to have
Speaker 1: a losing record, but okay, they're going to go eight
Speaker 1: and nine, all right, I could live with eight nine.
Speaker 1: That would be the greatest Gray Beards record ever, I believe,
Speaker 1: so we should have. Yeah, Ricky, can you check pro football.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's even projected you to win eight
Speaker 1: games until you did ten this season, so that I
Speaker 1: think that's a record. All right, Evan, break the tie.
Speaker 1: I have one one guy. Well, I got one guy
Speaker 1: saying it's a great team. It's me or a good team.
Speaker 1: Greg says they're going to be brutal team in the league.
Speaker 1: You're drafting like four, four and thirteen is top five
Speaker 1: draft pick. Yeah, you'll be top five, okay, and Connie's
Speaker 1: got me in the middle of the pack. But on
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, I'm giving you an extra win
Speaker 1: that that was five and twelve. Where do you come down,
Speaker 1: Mr Silva, Well, you know, eight and nine in a
Speaker 1: league where almost half the damn teams make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: Like we could sneak in back door, put us, put
Speaker 1: us in the weakest division. We got a shot. But
Speaker 1: I think that I think the sports books would set
Speaker 1: are over under wind total at like four and a
Speaker 1: half maybe five maybe five, And I would absolutely take
Speaker 1: the over. And it sounds like all take the over,
Speaker 1: bang the over. Well Greg would say that it's not
Speaker 1: the smart play. Yeah, I think Vegas had it nailed.
Speaker 1: They usually do. Uh for for an half seems about
Speaker 1: and you should and this if this affects you, grave
Speaker 1: digger behind the glass, we will. We were in Toronto
Speaker 1: this year. We're the Toronto Graybeards and we are in
Speaker 1: the a f C South little geography lesson. They're not great,
Speaker 1: but that's the way it is. And we have replaced
Speaker 1: the Texans because you know who's going to complain? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: as Greg said, what's the point, Yeah, what's the point? Evan,
Speaker 1: You've said it all. I mean, it's a tradition like
Speaker 1: no other. My roster Consigliari And you've said it all.
Speaker 1: And you can sing some too if you would like. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: check out Evan on Twitter at I believe it's even
Speaker 1: silver right. How do you do you feel guilty for
Speaker 1: helping to make like Adam Levitan obscenely wealthy and and
Speaker 1: and talking about it a lot. You know, this is
Speaker 1: the monster you've helped create, Evan, Oh, I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to respond to that, but thanks so much
Speaker 1: for having me on the show, you guys every year,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you'll bring me back for the Fantasy Extravagant.
Speaker 1: You know, you know you will get the invite. We
Speaker 1: need the big fish. And notice how he did not
Speaker 1: He didn't deny that Levitan is very wealthy tweets about it.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's running the game. And guess who
Speaker 1: runs that site with Leviton, That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that must mean Silva himself is now extremely wealthy. Look
Speaker 1: at you, so what is your net income right now?
Speaker 1: At Evan? All right? Thanks again, You're not going to
Speaker 1: become like a crypto n f T bro like because
Speaker 1: I like at him so much, But I'm concerned. I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about that too when when it comes to him.
Speaker 1: All right, there he goes, Evan Silva. It's very important
Speaker 1: that we keep an eye on the business side of
Speaker 1: things in our industry and uh owner talking the great
Speaker 1: darts right now, right, and if those guys are raking
Speaker 1: in the cash, that's something we need to be plugged
Speaker 1: in on. Just put it like that, I get it,
Speaker 1: all right, that was good. Now, Colleen, I think I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think the best way to do this. I
Speaker 1: think what we should do is we're going to stop
Speaker 1: down for just a couple of seconds and I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask you or tell you where to actually jump
Speaker 1: in because it was a failure to community or I
Speaker 1: think we do it live right now and like SNL style,
Speaker 1: I just try and follow. No, we have to get that.
Speaker 1: That's what we did the first time, alright, And I
Speaker 1: think should we get Greg in the mix, Yes, you
Speaker 1: have to do it. Okay, we're going to take a
Speaker 1: quick break here and going to come back and we're
Speaker 1: going to hit this all right, and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: it right. We're gonna knock out of the park and
Speaker 1: that will be our sign off for the app. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, Great beards, take to all right, Great bards.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say even the day, Ricky, you can get
Speaker 1: into great Bards. Just give us one last say we're
Speaker 1: here today, gone tomorrow. Will you watch your follow age?
Speaker 1: Gonna mean I cannot play you will see me leither day.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, great bits, never go away? Great else, never
Speaker 1: go away. That's much better. We're getting there. We're getting there. Uh.
Speaker 1: I just gotta work on the actual words. I had
Speaker 1: three words, but I got two out of three. Was good.
Speaker 1: Then I'll feel like there's always next year. Thank you
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. Greg. I didn't hear any of your
Speaker 1: backing box, humble brag, my directing just now and I'm like,
Speaker 1: take Colleen Fulla. Go to our instagram. Guys, you have
Speaker 1: to see it. Check it out on the gramak Strong.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday, check it out. Will be
Speaker 1: hitting the drafts and hopefully have a good draft guest
Speaker 1: and then the Friday shows back. Thank you everybody. Uh
Speaker 1: and also if you have how about this, have any
Speaker 1: musicians out there sending your version of the graveyards theme
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll use it down the line, maybe next year.
Speaker 1: That's it until Thursday. Heat the Call.