WEBVTT - Graybeards 2022 with Evan Silva 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:05.480 Be around the NFL. Podcast had their request to guarantee 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:10.960 their incentives d not Oh wow from the Chris Westling 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.800 podcast studio. That one hit too close to home. It's 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:19.639 around the NFL. I'm dad hands us once again a 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:25.040 new partner, Mark Sessler now on vacation, but back from vacation. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.640 Greg Rosenthal, Hey, buddy, I mean it's like that new 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:32.160 a partner. We've done about shows. I would guess undred 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.279 who really knows so many millions of shows. Perhaps, How 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.800 are you doing? I was good, I'm good. You know. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.720 We went back to Massachusetts, saw the fam saw the 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.519 Celtics put up one four in a game, went back 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.080 forty two. Some nice seats, you know, two seeds in 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.199 the east. That's good. I'm not they're gonna probably have 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.000 to play the nets, but we'll find out. We'll find out. Um. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.560 I do want to touch on We did check in 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.360 on your social media while you were gone, and there 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:07.240 was a Instagram story of you looking out into the abyss, 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.920 into the enjoying nature, and we're like, oh, that wasn't 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.200 very like Greg to really put himself out there like 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.120 that on social media, and we're just wondering what headspace 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.320 you were in at that moment. Uh, you clearly didn't 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.120 actually listen to it. It was just sort of a joke. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.440 It was like peace and quiet. It was this pretty view. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.920 But then seven seconds in Walker's voice pops up and 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.320 it's like, mommy, where are you? So you didn't you 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.759 didn't have It was just like a bit. Oh I see, 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:38.240 all right, well then, uh, what's your bit here? Oh no, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:43.960 we thought it was tied to, you know, recreational. Unfortunately 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.760 not that day, but certainly certainly that's in the mix 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.960 on a family vacation. Alright, good, well, I'm glad you 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.640 had a nice vago. No no, no, no, no, no, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:57.480 no, no no no no. Oh my goll oh my goll 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:10.799 is that it's Connor. We can't hear you because you're 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:22.639 not wearing a microphone. The first thing the turn her up, collegue, 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.280 do you look like you worked on that walk in? 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:30.560 I did check out check us out chair. Now it's 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.840 gotten to the point where the Colleen walking is leading 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.840 to Connie shooting me the bird from behind the glass. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.880 But I think it's brand building. I think you'll look 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.600 back one day and say thank you, Dan for trying 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.320 to get this bit off the ground because it's gonna 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.640 pay off in spades with some type a major sponsorship 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.560 or something down the line. That's great, I hope. So 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.920 I am wonderful. I just finished a little mock draft live. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.560 You guys can check that out on NFL Network. Lands 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.240 ser Line just released his latest mock, I'm all warmed 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.480 up right now. I also sprinted up the steps in 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.280 heels with my asthma um, and I don't have it inhaler, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.520 so it's gonna be fine. All right, take a deep breath. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.799 You actually you were in Tybee Island this weekend with Joel. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:13.200 I was so. We had a wedding in Savannah. One 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.640 of my best friends from college got married there, and 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:20.120 Tybee's obviously like twenty minutes away from Tybee. So I 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.440 stayed an extra day and I got my friend to 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.120 come to Ka Boos with me, and it was so nice. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.440 It was a gorgeous day, first of all, but it 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.280 was just so nice because I felt like I was 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.560 hanging out with West and I got to our good 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.960 friends Rosie and Wayne, who know West very well. They 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.160 came and met up with us, and then they randomly 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:46.760 pulled like two gigantic collages out of nowhere, like from 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.360 behind a booth and dusted them off, and it was 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.560 all of these photos of West from years and years 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.800 ago from Ka Boos with all of the characters. I 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.040 had never seen it multiple It was amazing. It was 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.400 such a great time. Yeah. And then um our buddy Wayne, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.960 he has a Pontiac gt O which I did not 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.800 know about, so he took us first spin and that 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.320 I had a wonderful time. That is. That's a great 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.520 I always thought that Tybee was always add twenty degrees 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.840 with humidity, but you're saying there's actually just nice chill 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.120 weather there too. Well. The wedding that I had on 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.880 Saturday was on a dock with no heaters and it 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.640 dipped down to about forty degree and major wind gusts. 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.200 So yeah, um, I didn't do it. I was home. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:38.320 I was home this weekend. Big time loser took the 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:42.080 Suns to see Sonic too. How was that? You know 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.440 what it is? It's two hours and two minutes long? 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.080 And you know what the next day or that night, 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:52.320 I was scanning through Netflix and uh, full Metal Jacket, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.039 the great Stanley Kubrick masterpiece was on. So what did 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.040 you do one hour and fifty six minutes long. It's 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:08.800 a lot of movies. Oh yeah in a world. Oh, 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.919 this is not the time for the Mark Pot. I 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:15.200 know he's on vacation, but I'm annoyed. Now, Okay, you're 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.599 seeing little Filler and Sonic time. I'm just saying they 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.360 maybe it's time for all of Hollywood to take a 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.520 good look in the mirror. That's all I agree with it. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.680 I can't sit still. It's really difficult for me to 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.680 watch a movie in general, so I would much rather 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.760 show I went and saw that movie Drive My Car 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.560 in the theater because I knew I would never be 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.320 able to sit through it at home. Two hours and 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.480 fifty minutes. That the New Batman's three hours. That's way 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.800 too much. It's too much. Today's show great to have 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.520 the crew here. Mark getting his much deserve vacation, so 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.360 we'll try to leave him alone. That's very important coming 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.599 up on today's show. Yes, it is the unveiling on 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:59.840 the podcast of the Graybeards with very special guests, uh 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:05.680 My Roster Consigliari, Evan Silva of Established So that's coming 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.000 up a little later, but first we have to get 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:13.000 caught up on the news. It's funny. Some people see 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.320 him and they see him as rapper, but to me, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.640 he's a story teller. That's where I feel about myself. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.920 I'm holding this guitar anyway, Look at me going on 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:32.160 and on here, Satellite. These are the messages I get 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.400 from Dan Hansas on a regular basis. No context for this, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.640 I don't need it. We had a brief conversation. You 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.719 should have context for my own uh, if you have 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.719 any respect for me? Um No, we uh. I talked 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.680 about we're talking about guitar play. I asked if you 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.320 knew how to play guitar. I don't know how to 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.360 play guitar. And I said, if I didn't know how 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.440 to play guitar, I would have been a great dorm 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.280 douche back in college because that's endless game. I mean, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.440 it's it would be a shooting fish in a barrel. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.039 That would be an example of dialogue. I would share. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.920 We were trying to do like a live performance of 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.440 a bit coming up, but you know that didn't work out. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.920 I think it worked out better though. Yeah. And Satellite, 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.320 of course is Dave Matthews Band. Because if you had 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.920 songs in your back pocket with the acoustic guitar in 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:20.200 the dorm. You're crushing it at Northeastern with you if 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.200 I had a guitar, but I didn't, so I wasn't. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.280 All right, let's get into the news. Let's start with 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.920 something really said, really tragic. Steelers quarterback Dwayne Haskins died 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.520 Saturday morning after he was hit by a vehicle in 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:41.080 South Florida, twenty four years old. Unbelievable tragedy. Here stand 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:46.000 out at Ohio State star there, helped them win a championship, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.160 all Big Ten honors, went to the NFL. Did not 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:53.520 go um as well in the pros. But uh, it's 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.920 hard to believe, Greg, that we would lose Dwayne Haskins 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.360 at this age years old, when a tragedy. Yeah, it's 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.480 really sad. You know, he was he was expected to 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.920 return to the Steelers this year play play a backup 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.520 role there. And when you follow these players, you you 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:15.400 don't know them. And unfortunately sometimes it takes something like 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.920 this to learn more about Dwayne Haskins, like the man 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.040 and the friend. And you just heard so much from 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.760 his teammates both in Washington and Pittsburgh of like what 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.840 he meant to them, that he was always looking to improve, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.880 looking to get better, that he was a very um 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:38.240 passionate like person and impacted so many people. All we 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.120 know about is like what we see on the field, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.480 and I don't know, it's it's it's tough. All these 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.520 early deaths they always like hit hard, but it hits 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.440 even harder after West for some reason, that just like 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.000 whenever a life is lost too soon, and the way 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.640 our world is now that we're bombarded with social you know, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.920 media and just information all the time, like it's all 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.559 was happening, but it just makes you think. It definitely 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:08.320 hit me different because I was already feeling nostalgic for 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.880 West when I was in Georgia, and then I got 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.679 the news of Dwayne Haskins and I had a chance 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.080 to talk with him a lot at the combine, and 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.920 he was so sweet before he was coming out like 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.400 he We talked about so many different things just about 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.840 him and his life and and what he what he liked. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.720 He we had this shared love for Alan Iverson, who 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.199 that was the first person who got me into sports. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.959 And he also just had this love for cooking and 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.400 this infectious smile and had an entire Instagram dedicated to 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.600 the dogs. That he and his girlfriend shared together. So 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.640 we talked about so many different things. I remember he 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.200 had thrown at a special needs football camp and that 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.719 was something that was really special and important to him. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:00.160 And he also had this eighth grade science project that 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.240 he did because everybody always brings up the fact that 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.760 he wanted to go to Ohio State, and he talked 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:10.320 about it and he uh, he had basically said that 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:11.760 he was going to go there and then it happened. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.360 But I thought that this was interesting. He had this 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.240 eighth grade science project that he did and he was 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.559 able to determine that over the top throwing motion produces 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.079 the cleanest release, the tightest firals, and the highest velocity 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.920 and he got an A on the project and he 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.600 was so proud of that. So it's just so tragic 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:34.000 the entire situation. He was so young, and it's just 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.760 so so sad. And it did because you learn, you 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.680 learn more about someone um after they passed, somebody that's 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.320 the celebrity or someone that's a notable figure sometimes And 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.600 for me, as someone who didn't doesn't follow college closely, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.080 I didn't know any of that. Dwayne Haskins as a 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.560 college star, legend, a legend at Ohio State, that guy 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.200 that was born to play there and then took the 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.440 team UH to Rose Bowl greatness. So from me, it 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.720 was a a ball As a professional, I only knew 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.000 the guy that wasn't ready for the NFL, that didn't 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.760 play well in Washington and now was hoping to make 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.920 it and stick around at Pittsburgh as a backup. So 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.839 it's just it's a reminder that these people, um, people 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.000 are more than what they do just on the field. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.640 When you get to the NFL, there's a there's a 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.920 whole person behind it. It's just it's a tragic thing. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.360 Everyone who was getting passed around. Of course on on 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.120 social media. His last Instagram post or he was just 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.880 messing around having fun with different Steelers players they're working 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:32.240 out in Florida when this accident occurred. Just very sad 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.600 and um our hearts go out to his family. So 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:41.760 Dwayne Haskins passes away at hard to believe. Moving on class, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.680 Campbell and the Ravens are back in business two years, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.319 twelve and a half million dollar deal. UH makes too 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.960 much sense because Campbell has spent the last two years 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.320 in Baltimore and has remained a really productive player greg 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.400 both against the run and getting after the quarterback. There's 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.280 a few Maybe he's not the same guy was five 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.719 years ago, but still a big time productive talent. He 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.200 wouldn't be on the street. I mean he looks like 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.559 the same guy that he was when you were sidling 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.240 up to him at some The biggest man I've ever 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.640 like been goes out it was all or nothing Premier 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.360 in Downtown l A. I mean, the deep the deepest 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.400 voice in the game. There's one of one. You know, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.360 they say that a lot when when when people pass 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.959 or but Klis game in terms of what he does 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.560 as a player is a one of one. There's really 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.440 kind of no one like him. His size, his ability 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.360 and his um ability to not get any worse as 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.280 he gets older. Like p F. If he goes to 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.280 the Hall of Fame, and I think he'll have a chance, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.640 I think he'll be discussed. PFF will be part of 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.600 the process because he's been one of the highest ranked 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:51.040 like interior defensive lineman throughout the PF era, and I 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:55.400 think that's I think that's helped the football COGNISCENTI really 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.520 know and appreciate a player like him. He kind of 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.080 reminds me a little a different style. But an Aaron Smith, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.319 who was with Pittsburgh awhile back, also a PFF favorite. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.240 Bill Belichick loved him. Was like Richard Seymour type, doing 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:08.920 a lot of the dirty work that doesn't get a 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.880 lot of the publicity or the stats. But the football heads, no, 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.320 I love that PF. Has there been a PF Hall 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.360 of Famer yet? And if there hasn't, would Campbell be 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.520 the first? I think Andrew Whitworth will be the first test. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:27.600 I think he uh now became more famous later in 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.960 his career because he joined the Rams and he started 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.800 to get a few more All pros, and he ended 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.080 how he ended. But I think for a while PF 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.280 was kind of carrying the flag that hey, actually, I 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.400 know there's Joe Thomas and Walter Jones and all these 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.520 other guys, but Andrew Whitworth is one of the best 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.440 three or four tackles in the league. Year after year 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.559 they were saying that, and eventually I think everyone caught 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.320 up so he could be the first class continues to 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.360 be so good. I really thought that he was going 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.640 to retire. Having had a chance to work with him 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.000 on game day morning, this year during the playoffs, just 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.000 talking with him, he was saying that he was trying 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.440 out some different things in media and he liked it. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.760 And first of all, he is just the nicest guy 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.600 in the world off the field. And yes, Dan, I 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.320 can confirm he's the largest human being I've ever met. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.679 He's like a gentle giant. He's so cool too. I 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.640 just had such a great time working with him. But 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.080 he was so thoughtful in what we were doing for 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.880 the show and the conversations that we were having. And 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.200 I can tell that he is the same way on 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.920 the field too. And you can see it when he 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.600 plays the fact that he's known as a guy that 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.280 gets after the quarterback, but these last few years he's 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.320 been really used as a run stopper. But I just 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.040 I like with Baltimore did bringing him back. There were 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.840 reports that he turned down offers elsewhere to go back 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:47.720 to Baltimore. The Ravens just brought back Josh Binds on Friday, Wagner, 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.960 I love, Yeah. I want to be picking the Ravens 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.280 as a big comeback team because football outsiders said the 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.880 step that they were the most injured team in the 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.960 last twenty years. Like they they they track adjusted games 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.960 lost every year. It's just a number. And the Ravens 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.240 were the least lucky, the most unlucky team in twenty years. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.680 And so to me, if you had added Bobby Wagner 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.480 and all the players coming back in all this but 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.480 even then Campbell, they brought back Michael Pierce, so they 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.960 used to have who was in Minnesota too. You feel 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:17.880 good about the Ravens right now. I'm so. I'm saying 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.320 they're just a natural candidate to totally bounce back. They 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.000 were very unlucky towards the end of last year, losing 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.320 all those close games, and we're just decimated by injuries. Uh. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.400 He was in conversation with Peter King recently and he 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.120 believes Coasel that there could be five quarterbacks taken in 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.480 the first round. Greggy this, well, I'm of two minds 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.600 on this one, of course, because seth seems how it 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.160 always works out. But to this year is like the 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.360 ultimate test, because back in February before the combine, everyone 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.680 was of the opinion there might not be any quarterbacks 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.600 there maybe one that would go in the first round. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.520 But what happens after the Combine, after the pro days, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.760 as teams figure out the lay of the land after 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.280 the agency, there's always going to be that hunger at 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.520 the signal caller position. It is the ultimate test of that. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.280 I feel like the year that Christian Ponder and Jake 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.960 Locker and all of them started going eight, ten, twelve 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.160 was was where it got really crazy and they put 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.680 all those guys on the cover with with Cam Newton 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.080 on Sports Illustrated, and then this this draft is turning 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.720 into a similar case. But it makes sense to me, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.520 first of all, when you go through all these players 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.960 like they don't seem like that bad prospects. They seem 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.240 all like borderline first round picks, right. And so if 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.320 you're the Panthers or you're the Seahawks, or you're these 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.360 teams that are being talked up the Steelers to maybe 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:39.960 take them in the first round, are you gonna wait 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.160 for round two? Are you just gonna take them? Just 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.840 take them. I think that this year is so such 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.160 a weird class with the quarterbacks though, and even the 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.840 mock drafts that have come out from our guys here 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.000 at NFL Network, like Bucky had one two weeks ago 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.080 that came out had zero quarterbacks going in the first round. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:01.760 And that's something that I thought my actually be possible. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.280 But with the fifth year option, you know teams are 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.199 going to trade into the back end. But I just 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.440 don't know about this quarterback class compared to years past, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.560 because just based on everything that I've heard from insiders 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:18.560 and scouts and teams, it's not a good class. And 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.040 it seems like teams are going to always talk themselves 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.080 into just taking a chance on someone. But if you 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.120 draft a first round quarterback, then you're beholden to that 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.919 and if that player isn't as good as maybe the 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.439 scrub that you already have on your roster, you're in 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.080 some trouble. Sam Donald does not need to be called 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:43.080 too far, but that's they're the best example. And Josh 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.080 Norris on Twitter to kind of pointed out they've traded 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.800 back a ton in there at six, so they're a 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.639 candidate to trade back and then take a Desmond or something. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.399 But like, are you really going to go through this 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.119 quarterback and not go through this draft and not taking 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.200 Are the Saints really getting out of this first round 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.440 with those two picks without taking a quarter back? I 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.560 don't know the Saints. I think take one. I think 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.240 the Steelers probably will because that makes a lot of sense, 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.160 especially with the tragic news of Haskins and then Ben 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.120 Roethlisberger not being there and having Mitchell. But I think 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.760 the Lions are an interesting candidate to trade up because 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.040 of that thirty second pick that they got from trading 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.480 Matthew Stafford. They don't have any long term out So 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.680 those examples are all good examples of teams that if 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.520 it makes sense, if they're in a position to take 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.560 a quarterback and they feel comfortable doing it where they 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.359 are in the draft, yes, take a swing. Like Greg 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.240 you always say, just keep taking swings. But the Panthers 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.800 are that perfect example of the team that might be 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.560 they've backed themselves into a corner here and now they 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.199 had they might have to take a swing they're not 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.239 even confident about, and that's usually when disaster strikes. But 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.320 who knows. You Also, nobody knows anything, so they might 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.200 hit on a guy that everyone roundly criticizes as being 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.399 a bad pick, and then he becomes a good starter. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.280 Like the I don't know where guys get draft did 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.520 so gets talked about a lot on draft weekend and 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.080 then it fades away. Chad Chad Reuter a router on 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.440 our website has three going in the top twelve, which 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.080 is like that that feels like and whether it's right 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:14.800 or not, And a lot of times the pre draft 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.240 buzzes is not right. But the buzz at this moment 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.520 is that they keep creeping up. And I think, I 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.199 think it kind of makes sense because when you actually 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.919 hear about all these guys, to me, they they sound attractive, 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.480 like they sound like good prospects depending on what you're 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.080 looking for, Like everyone looks at him differently. There's not 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.919 some huge consensus, but I feel like each one you 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.600 can make the case as a first round pick. 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In a letter obtained by the Associated Press, 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.479 the it he said the team withheld ticket revenue from 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.880 visiting teams and refundable ticket deposits from season ticket holders. 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.320 The committee said emails this is all part of the 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:13.320 Associated Press, documents and statements made by former employees indicate 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.480 team executives and owner Dan Snyder engaged in a quote troubling, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.960 long running, and potentially unlawful pattern of financial conduct greg 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.239 the Washington Football Team as they were known now the 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.800 Commanders as they're currently known, have been connected to nefarious 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:34.399 behavior UH for years now, and you wonder if something 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.200 that involves money coming out of owners pockets it would 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.040 be the thing that changes things in Washington. Well, it's 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:45.840 all very public. This letter that one Congressman UH sent 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:50.879 out from the Oversight Committee is was being released, and 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:53.719 the NFL is not gonna say much. But I'm just 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:58.159 reminded of Roger Goodell making it clear at the end 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:02.679 of his last press conference that Dan Snyder was not 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.640 running the Washington commanders and that he did not expect 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.639