1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to America's now, Mr garbut chaf tear down this wall. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Either beer with us or you were with the terrorists. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: If you've got healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: If you are satisfied with Trump is not a president 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: of the United States, take it to a bank. Together, 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: we will make America great again. You'll never sharender. It's 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: America now joined the conversation called buck toll free at 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: nine hundred two, eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Buck Sexton here with America now, thank you 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: so much for joining me. A pleasure and an honor 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: to have your company today here in the Freedom Hut. 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: A lot of things to get into today. You've got 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: the Democrat and media all out war, no holds barred 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: approach to all things Trump. You've got Hillary is back 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of gave a speech, and San Francisco we can 18 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: talk a bit about what that's what that's all about. 19 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: Also the continuing Nunez Russia Trump surveillance investigation, all that stuff. 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: We'll have the latest on that and maybe a new 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: York Times, great moment in fake news to get into 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: as well, along with some other things. And by the way, 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: eight four four to eight to five eight four four 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: nine d buck is what you should call if you 25 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: want to chat with me. Let's let's get into that, 26 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: shall we. Whatever it is you have on your mind, now, 27 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: you will notice a a theme and it's not a 28 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: hard one to pick up on a theme in the 29 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: media right now when it comes to the status of 30 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. You have a headline here reeling Republicans 31 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: desperate for a win on Gorsage. You know, just off 32 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: the Republicans are in they're in disarray. Every two weeks 33 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: we're told the Republican Party, or really every other week 34 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: or every week, i should say, we're told the Republicans 35 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: are in some state of disarray, and then we're told 36 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that they're going to steamroll all of the institutions of 37 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: democracy and destroy everything. And Trump is is a monster 38 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: and a fascist, and then he's ineffective, and it's it 39 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: just switches back and forth. This is what I mean 40 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: by all out war against Trump. This is also why 41 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: the battles over fake news. And you can tell that 42 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the very real and visceral hostility that the media has 43 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: for this administration comes out all the time. Um, they 44 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: have this this narrative that Trump is inconsequential and effective 45 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: when it comes to healthcare, for example, but he's also 46 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: destroying the world because of his climate change rules repeal. 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's I just want to ask the major 48 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: networks this question, is he a dictator or is he incapable? 49 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Because it it really can't be both. He can't be 50 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: he can't be in charge of everything and incapable of 51 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: getting anything done or incapable of doing anything that those 52 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: don't go together. You see this from the stories that 53 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: they pick. Um, it's how they tell the story. Of course, 54 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: also that is a major part of this. It's all 55 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: tied in together as this anti Trump narrative. And we 56 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: see on the gorste the looming Gorsage nomination, the fight 57 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: that's coming over this a moment where I hope Republicans 58 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: decide that it's time to fight back. That you see 59 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: the stories, Oh there there's all this sense of what 60 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: are we gonna do now? And where were the agenda 61 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: has been run off the road, and there's so many 62 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: problems and there's all this stuff. Their problems have to 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: deal with, and they might not even get this sixty 64 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: votes they need for Gorsets to become an ex Supreme 65 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: Court nominee. You know what, sometimes you have to be 66 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: willing to just throw down. Sometimes you have to be 67 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: willing to go nuclear. And Republicans on this issue better 68 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: go nuclear, because if they're going to look, if we're 69 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: going to try to gauge public sentiment based on the 70 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: way that you see all these different media reports describing 71 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: the administration and all, what's the sense with from within 72 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: the administration the Republican agenda. It's been diverted. He's reaching 73 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: out to Democrats. There's no method to all this madness. 74 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: That the Republicans need to turn this whole thing around, 75 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: and they need to do it right now. And for 76 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: a lot of those who had their misgivings about Trump, 77 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I have to say, the Supreme Court and the the 78 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: pick of Neil Gorcitch as the next Supreme Court nominee 79 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: or next Supreme Court justice, assuming he gets through, quieted 80 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: at least some portion of their fears that Trump would 81 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: be uh destructive the Republican Party, that there would be 82 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: no good And there are some never Trumpers out there. 83 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I know the conservatives who thought there's and still think 84 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: that there's no good that could come out of a 85 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: Trump administration, despite the fact that he beat Hillary Clinton. 86 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I see this, and I have at least one there's 87 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: one issue here the Supreme Court where even even the 88 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: most ardent never Trump or on the right, should say, 89 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: well that this is important, this matters, this is big. 90 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about using the law as a 91 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: weapon instead of using the law for justice throughout this hour. 92 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: It's one of the most important traits of the Democratic 93 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Party that that they like to you, they like to 94 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: criminalize political differences. They don't just want to use speech 95 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: codes to shut down what they don't like on campuses, 96 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: although they certainly want to do that. They don't just 97 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: use hostile workplace law or uh, you know, hostile or 98 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: harassment law, any of those things for the purposes of 99 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: shutting down speech that they don't like in the workplace 100 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: um or that they don't like in general. They also 101 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: use the law as a weapon to destroy people's careers 102 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: and to take away their freedom for political differences, not 103 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: for what would be honest enforcement priorities. We'll get into 104 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: some of those obviously, the planned parenthood videos and the 105 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: fact the fact that they're facing fifteen felony fifteen felony 106 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: charges for the same kind of undercover journalism that has 107 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: been played on you know, national news broadcasts countless times. 108 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: But we'll get there first on the response to this, 109 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: the response to the onslaught, because that's what it is. 110 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: There's an on slot right now against this administration. They 111 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: want to uh stymy it. They want to hobble it. 112 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: They want to just create not not just a slowdown 113 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: in any momentum that it has in the beginning in 114 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: the first hundred days, but to wound it so that 115 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: there's really no major policy victories. And whatever they can 116 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: do to that end, they'll do if that means that 117 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: they have to all act as appendages of the Democratic Party. 118 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: The media will do that if it means that Democrat 119 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: politicians will just take completely nonsensical stances, whether on a 120 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Court nominee like Corsitch. We've got people in the 121 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Senate who all the unanimously voted for this guy to 122 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: the federal bench, and now they're all saying, oh, he 123 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: can't even get sixty so he can get whatever was 124 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: votes I think was the final tally for the federal bench, 125 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: but he can't get sixty votes now for the Supreme Court. 126 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: It's just politicization. Understand that this is a political fight 127 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: that's playing out in the realm of a judicial appointment. 128 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with his qualifications. It has 129 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with, well, what the expectations should be 130 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: when you have a new president who is supposed to 131 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: be in a position to appoint a Supreme Court justice. 132 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: But they're not up against they're not up against a 133 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: team that fights fair. And I think that's what brings everything. 134 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Whether we're talking about using the law as a weapon, 135 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: the media onslaught all of this. It's not about fair 136 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: if we're going to sit around and and I worry 137 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: that some Conservatives because we're used to to obeying the rules, 138 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: we're used to playing fair, and we have a sense 139 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: of fairness that sometimes even goes against our immediate interest, 140 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: whether it's on policy or even just in our day 141 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: to day lives. You know, we will do what we 142 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: think is right, even if it's painful or annoying or difficult. 143 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: Democrats the whole, the whole. Democrat mantras, yeah, whatever, if 144 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: if you if it helps you win or if it 145 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: makes you feel good, go for it. Yeah, honor honors 146 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: for chumps. So we have a built in weakness, not 147 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: an ethical weakness, but a political weakness. It's an ethical strength, 148 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: but politically are UH wanting to be fair and fair 149 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: minded and work within the bounds of uh what you know? 150 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: That's the most genteel approach whenever possible to these policy disputes. 151 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: This is to our real disadvantage. And on the go 152 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: on the Gorsis nomination, and look, I want to talk 153 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: to you about a whole host of issues that we 154 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: we really need to gain some momentum in tackling. Whether 155 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: it's on healthcare or tax reform, these are complex issues 156 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: that require a lot of thought, and we need to 157 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: help motivate some of these elected officials in d C 158 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: D get going and to do what needs to be 159 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: done so that there can be changed from these politicians 160 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: that always promise us they're going to do all these 161 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: fantastic things. And so far, what do we have to 162 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: show for all of that? So let me just go 163 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: back to gorstch for a moment. Here they say that 164 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Republicans are desperate for a win. I don't think that 165 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: that's true. I think they're overstating it. I think they're 166 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: overplaying their hand. Um, But we do need a win 167 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: on Corsage. We do need to be in a position 168 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: where finally people can say, all right, check that one off. 169 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: We've got a Supreme Court nominee who's an originalist, who, 170 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: and I think there's a little bit of dancing around 171 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: this issue, who has a more conservative worldview. He's not 172 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: a progressive, he's not a he's not a leftist. You've 173 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: used the court as just a legislature without any votes attached, 174 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: without any votes needed. That's that is what it means 175 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: to be an originalist in the modern environment, the modern 176 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: judicial environment we're talking about here. Uh, it means that 177 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: you just don't buy into that, But it also means 178 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,479 Speaker 1: you're you're going to be more conservative. They the Republicans, 179 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: better go to the mad on this one. Um. I 180 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: think they will. You have Mitch McConnell telling his leadership 181 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: earlier this week, according to Politico, that Supreme Court nominee 182 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: Neil Gorstch is not going to get it, is probably 183 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: not going to get the sixty votes needed to avoid 184 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: a filibuster. But he said Merchant McConnell. He said that 185 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: they should have no problem about pulling the nuclear option. 186 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Feel no guilt is the quote that they have attributed 187 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: to McConnelly, or feel no guilt. That's a very profound 188 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: message for the Republicans on Capitol Hill right now, and 189 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: maybe even some in the White House too. You have 190 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: to take action. You have got to get it done 191 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: on Gorsitch and then on a whole bunch of other 192 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: issues to the other side. And this is I think 193 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: that some members of Congress have forgotten this that the 194 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: American people and those who well, certainly the Republicans for 195 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: eight years sat around and it felt like we were 196 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: constantly getting punched in the face by what we were 197 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: seeing on the TV screen about how the Democrats were 198 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: just pushing it, just jamming everything they could through when 199 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: they could, didn't care about any didn't care that they 200 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: were not representing, uh the issues accurately or properly memory 201 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: to pass this bill, to see what's in it. There 202 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: was no there was no shame in their game. They 203 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: did not care. And we sat around and we said, Okay, 204 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: we need to organize, we need to vote, we need 205 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: to talk about the issues because our time will come. Well, 206 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: with seven years of that and then the Obamacare uh 207 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: problem that we've seen so far, the Obamacare missfire. It's 208 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: time to get something done. It's time to take action. 209 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: And I would like to see the GEO p go 210 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: nuclear on Gorstch his nomination. Yeah. I know, people say, well, Puck, 211 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: you're opening up Pandora's. But they already opened it up. 212 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: They opened it up before, and people say, well, it'll 213 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: that's well, that's because the Republicans were playing fair. That's 214 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: how they they got what was it, Kagan and Soda mayor, 215 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Republicans said Obama's president. Okay, so these are his choices. 216 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: We don't have enough grounds to say no, these are 217 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: his choices. If Democrats are gonna do what they do, 218 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: which is not playfair, we've got to roll up the 219 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: sleeves and get this done. As a friend once told 220 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: me in a very important time in my life, when 221 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: I was I didn't know what to go. He just 222 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: kept telling me. He just kept writing to me, kept 223 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: emailing me, texting me. Take action, don't sit around, don't wind, 224 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: don't complain. That's my message to the Republicans right now. 225 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Take action, and if that means you gotta go nuclear. Well, 226 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: you know, we better see that metaphorical mushroom cloud politically speaking, 227 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: because it's time. It's time to get serious here. It 228 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: really is, all right Evelyn and North Carolina on w 229 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: p T. I. How you doing. I'm doing great, and 230 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: I want to tell you how much I enjoy your show. 231 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, and yeah, thank you. The reason I'm calling 232 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: today is I am so tired of this spiteful politics, 233 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: not only on the Democratic side, but also on these 234 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: other Republicans who won't support the president. And you know, 235 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a house divided can't stand with neither kind of country, 236 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: and the spitefulness has to stop. I'm proud to call 237 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump my president, and if they would just let 238 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: him do what he needs to do, we can make 239 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot of improvements here. And U. I also hope 240 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: that they're not going to rush the UM Obamacare UM replacement. 241 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: They have to take their time and get it right 242 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: this time. And yeah, I think that's that's a loss 243 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: that's mostly on I mean, it's on the legislature. I 244 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: know it's under Trump's administration, but he he didn't he 245 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: didn't write the bill. He's he's the president. He turns 246 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: around he says to the Congress, all right, guys, you've 247 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: got all your wants and all your policy people and 248 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: all your staffs, and and let's let's go. Let's get 249 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: the healthcare pro you've been I mean, I can understand 250 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: Trump's position is, you guys have passed like sixty repeal 251 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: and replace bills. You don't have something ready to go? 252 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: How is that even possible? And you know, they didn't. 253 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: They really didn't do right by the president. They really 254 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: didn't work hard enough to get consensus and to hear 255 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: what the arguments against it were. Well, there's some phone 256 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: there's and phonies, Evelyn. That's part of the problem to 257 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: there are people that run for office on the Republican 258 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: side who say one thing and then when they're when 259 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: they're there, they do another. And part of the swamp 260 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: that needs to be drained involves that which is inhabited 261 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: by Republicans that pretend to be conservatives, pretend to be 262 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: limited government, you know, and then when they have to 263 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: take a tough vote on something, it's all about, well 264 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: what does this do from my constituency? You know, what 265 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: is this do for my chances of re election? That 266 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: that's a big problem right. I think Graham and McCain 267 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: needs to go him at all. I don't like You're 268 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: not the only one. You're not the only one. At 269 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people are wondering, well, you know, John 270 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: McCain is now calling for an Evelyn thank you for 271 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: calling it. From North Carolina, John McCain is calling for 272 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: Nuniez to reveal his source. Uh, why would Nuniaz do 273 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: that at this point? Can't can't Nunez try? We were 274 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: told he was going out, was erratic. He went outside 275 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: of official channels before, or not official channels, but he 276 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: went outside of expected protocol when it came to uh 277 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: talking to fellow members of the House panel before telling 278 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: the public, were going to the president about this stuff. 279 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: But now he's going to reveal his source. What will 280 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: What if it's a whistleblower or what if it's somebody 281 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: from within the government who doesn't really want to deal 282 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: with the Democrat deep state machinery that has already been 283 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: used against the Trump administration. Uh, we are supposed to assume, 284 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: I guess that there's something nefarious going on here, but 285 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: we have no evidence of that still. Uh. John in 286 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Mississippi on w b V what's up, John, Hey, book, 287 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: good to talk with you. I suspect you've heard by 288 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: now this woman named Evelyn Farcus. Oh we're gonna talk 289 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: about that coming up. Yep, yeah you are. Oh yeah, 290 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: well that I would like to I'd like to say 291 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: something on her behalf. But the way she talks, she 292 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: she she spoke on MSNBC yesterday and uh, and I've 293 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: got a I printed out a transcript of an interview 294 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: with Ezra Klein, and she really does sound sincere. And 295 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: her concern was that Trump was too friendly with the Russians, 296 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: and she she really does seem like a sincere, patriotic woman. 297 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: But I believe she knows she's in cohusi with the 298 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: people that spread and leaked this confidential classified information about 299 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: Trump's staff members on this transition team. But I believe, 300 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: I believe she is a sincere person and she can 301 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: lead us too. So this is a woman who just 302 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: so everyone everyone knows John a former top obaministration official 303 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: named Evelyn Farkas. He was Deputy Assistant Secretary Defense under Obama. 304 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: She says that there were a furts by her colleagues 305 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: to gather intelligence on Trump team ties to Russia before 306 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: he took office. Uh. So that's that's what what johns. 307 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: We will get to that in the later on the show, 308 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: I promise rock and roll Sir, thank you very much 309 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: for calling in. We'll talk about that. I want to 310 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: get into the Planned Parenthood undercover videos in a minute here, 311 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: just the way this is being handled by prosecutors and 312 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: and the obvious politics that are at play here. Um, 313 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: there are a few things more disconcerting and honestly more 314 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: terrifying than when prosecutors are using their tremendous powers to 315 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: settle political scores. We'll talk about that. Welcome back to 316 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut on an island of liberty, where you're 317 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: the party and it's full of fellow patriots. Buck Sexton 318 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: kicks it off, so team you probably he saw this. Um, 319 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: it's troubling, to be sure. Um. The Center for Medical Progress, 320 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: which did a series of undercover videos of Planned Parenthood 321 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: showing discussing things and and showing things that are difficult 322 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: to deal with, hard to process, and certainly impossible to forget. Uh. 323 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: And there this group that was engaged in undercover journalism 324 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: is now facing fifteen felony counts. You can see here, 325 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: the state attorney General, Javier Bessara, who is a formerly 326 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: a congressional Democrat of long for a long time, said 327 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: that he will not tolerate the criminal recording of con versations. 328 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Now you get into some interesting there. There's the legal argument, 329 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: and then there's the ethical argument here, then there's the politics. 330 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: Is let me just start with my understanding of the 331 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: legal argument. A lot of states allow for what is 332 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: called one party consent, meaning that if one person wants 333 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: to record a conversation with another person, they can. California 334 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: is a i believe, is a two party consent state. 335 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: Now that on its face you may say, okay, buck well, 336 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: then as a matter of just straightforward law and straightforward 337 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: legal application, they they would be in trouble here and 338 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: that's there. Then there would be charges. But here's here's 339 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the problem. Uh, just because you're talking two people in private, 340 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the communication is necessarily as a as 341 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: a legal matter, going to be considered a privilege or 342 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: protected under the law. Um. And there are some discussions 343 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: that are happening right now, for example, about whether you 344 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: would be able to expect a conversation in a if 345 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: you are the person entering a medical office for example, 346 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: isn't it you're you're the one who has a privacy 347 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: expectation perhaps, so can't can't you record that if you're 348 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: in entering a medical office? This is what needs to 349 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: be dealt with by the court. Now, um, but this 350 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: is this is going to be something that you'll you'll 351 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: expect the lawyers are gonna get on. Both sides are 352 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: going to get very much into the weeds on and 353 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: there are some this is all about wire tapping, by 354 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: the way, and wire tapping law. Uh, there are some 355 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: other aspects of this too. You know, if a conversation 356 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: is happening at a restaurant, for example, if it's out 357 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: in the open, of course there you know, otherwise anybody 358 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: that's ever Well, if you're at a protest and you're 359 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: recording a conversation and you pick up somebody else's you know, incid. Incidentally, 360 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: you could say collect somebody else saying something that you're 361 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: not talking to. Is that no, because you don't have 362 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: an expectation of privacy there. So this is it's interesting 363 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: where do you have an expectation of privacy that The 364 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: hot air dot Com has an interesting runthrough of this 365 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: where you get into whether something is in a confidential 366 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: area or not. UM, so this is it is, it's 367 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: all very circumstantial, but fifteen felonyque counts is is quite 368 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: a quite a series of charges to level against somebody 369 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: for doing undercover journalism. And that's exactly what happened here. 370 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: And when you read so on the legal side of this, 371 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: UM you can imagine there's going to be a lot 372 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: of back and forth and there are some concerns that 373 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: you do have to be aware when you're recording, UH 374 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: in a state, you want to be aware when you're 375 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: intentionally recording somebody what the laws are in that state, 376 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: as they vary state by state, and in California, UH, 377 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: they have now decided to charge delayed in and merit 378 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the two involved with this for their undercome investigation of 379 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: an organization that was trafficking in fetal that it was 380 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: talking about the sale of and traffic of fetal body parts, 381 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: which it can do for And this is it's tough 382 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: to discuss, and I know it's it's upsetting to this, 383 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: it's upsetting to think about, it's upsetting to hear about 384 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: the way the law currently stands. They can recoup expenses 385 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: from the procedure and from the usage of these tissues 386 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: from babies in research. But what you saw in the 387 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: videos was that which are always referred to by the 388 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: way as heavily edited, which is just a way of 389 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: that sort of a that's a weasel word to undermine 390 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: the the accuracy in the authenticity of these videos, to say, oh, 391 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: they're heavily edited, they're not edited out. I mean, what 392 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: does that even mean? Eded out of the ordinary? Of course, 393 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: there's hours and hours of footage, and they had to 394 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: make it something that people would watch, so they cut 395 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: it down. Journalists do this all the time without Every 396 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: interview that you see on TV in some way usually 397 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: usually has some level of editing. If nothing else. There 398 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: are constraints put on it by the commercials and the 399 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: timing and the brakes. But I just I see this, 400 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: and it comes after what happened in Texas, where there 401 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: was also an effort to charge these individuals by the 402 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: grand jury there that was thrown out. Um And now 403 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: looking at this case against the Leyden and Merit, you 404 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: see that this is pandering to a pandering to a 405 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: left wing constituency that unfortunately is really most of the 406 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: state of California by throwing a fifteen felony count indictment 407 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: at these two um And this is the the criminalizing 408 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: of undercover journalism, which is really also just happening because 409 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: these groups, Planned Parenthood, the media of the Democratic Party 410 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: are all working together to make sure that people don't 411 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: really know what happens in these facilities. Why should it 412 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: be Why should it be such an outrage that these conversations. 413 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the privacy expectation of a medical facility, in 414 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: my opinion, would be for the individual who's trying to 415 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: get services, not not for the facility. If you were 416 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on in there, wouldn't 417 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: you want someone to be able to record their conversation. 418 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, any any normal doctor doing any normal procedure 419 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: would say, sure, it's it's your privacy. Where predicts not 420 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: the privacy of the facility and the doctors who are 421 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: meeting with people to talk about treatment. But there's something 422 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: very distinct and very different that is happening in the 423 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: case of Planned Parenthood. That's where they're performing abortions. It 424 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: is a highly politicized issue on the left. They don't 425 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: want people to really know. They want them to use 426 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: certain language. Abortions an issue that I don't spend much 427 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: time talking about on the show. I wonder whether the 428 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: Trump administration will deal with some of the outstanding issues 429 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: that still exists on abortion in any in any meaningful way. 430 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know Trump. One thing that's often 431 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: lost in the left wing media about how terrible Trump 432 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: is that he's on social issues, pretty moderate centrist Republican. Uh, 433 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: And I I don't know. He's he said he's he 434 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: said he's pro life when he's running. We'll see what 435 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: that means. He's appointing a pro life just justice to 436 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. But back to the Center for Medical 437 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Progress in their situation out in California, they tried to 438 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: get them in Texas and they could not or it 439 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: was thrown out. But they also, we're going to bring 440 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: serious charges there. A grand jury exceeded it's authority in 441 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: that case because the initial investigation there was about the 442 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: trafficking and fetal body parts, and then it turned into 443 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: well what about these people recording the conversations? Isn't it fascinating? 444 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: By the way, the left will now focusing more on 445 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: the on the political angle here, unless on the specific 446 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: legalities of California wire tapping law. The left will make 447 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: excuses and will even revere in some cases people who 448 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: break the law for a higher political purpose. Um, they 449 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: will break the law, or rather they will advocate for 450 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: breaking the law and violating privacy and even violating federal 451 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: statutes about classification for example. And you'll say, well, what's 452 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: the higher political purpose here? What purpose are you serving 453 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: by whether we're talking about Bradley Manning or any number 454 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: of other snowed in, you know, other so called whistleblower 455 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: is I'm not really clear and what what whistle is 456 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: being you know what whistle they're talking about. But you 457 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: look at how in those cases, Oh and Trump's taxes 458 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: of course, right, I mean, you know that the law 459 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: can be broken, but if it's if it's helpful to 460 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: the Democrat cause, Democrat cause, then forget about what the 461 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: specifics of the law. Even if it's federal classification of 462 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: national security information, it just doesn't matter. I don't really care. Um. Show. 463 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: So when we see this now here, usually there would 464 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: be a lot of a lot of support, a lot 465 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: of noise for First Amendment freedom, uh, saying that this 466 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: is a case where it's more important than we find 467 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: out the truth here than anything else, and the political 468 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: reality dictates the legal the legal reality down the line right, 469 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: the the push from politics is a case where or 470 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: the the push from the political side of it tells 471 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: you how this will play out in the courts. And 472 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: here you see that. But it's happening in the other direction. 473 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: It's not in favor of the whistleblowers or the truth 474 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: tellers here. Now it's being pushed in the other direction 475 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: because plan parenthood is a sacred entity to the progressive 476 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: secular left. Um it's I think in the back of 477 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: their minds somewhere there's an understanding among some liberals. I 478 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: don't know how many, but that one day America will 479 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: wake up from this, from this immoral nightmare, and say 480 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: to itself, I cannot believe that there was, in fact 481 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: federal funding, Because there is federal funding. That's why they 482 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: get so upset when the funding is gonna get cut 483 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: to plant parenthood for abortion. That this was legal, that 484 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: this was commonplace, that it happened tens of millions of times, 485 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: that there was that this was the one constituency the 486 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: pro abortion plank in the Democrat platform. That's the one 487 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: constituency that no Democrat can ever or will ever UH 488 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: go against. Can't be a member in good standing the 489 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. A lot of other things you can do. 490 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: Can't be a member in good standing and not be 491 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: in favor of planned parenthood. So here we have fifteen 492 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: felony charges UH leveled against these undercover journalists. I do 493 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: think that this will turn on whether they can whether 494 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: the case um, whether UH there was an expectation of 495 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: privacy regarding this conversation or not. The courts have found 496 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: in other similar cases that an undercover journalist that really 497 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: the protection is for the person who was meeting with 498 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: the other individual in a professional capacity. It's not for 499 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: the person in the professional capacity. UM. So we will 500 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: see UM whether there's a reasonable expectation of privacy and 501 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: a planned parent at center for somebody who's ostensibly having 502 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: a professional meeting with them. That's where the legal question term. 503 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: But the political side of this is quite clear, and 504 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: it's that they want to make an example of these 505 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: undercover journalists that don't want people we know the truth 506 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: about what happens in these facilities. They don't want them 507 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: to know what's really going on. With these procedures. They 508 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: don't want them to know that Planned Parenthood is selling 509 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: body parts of infants to make money. That's what this 510 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: all really comes down to. And it is yet another 511 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: instance of the weaponization of the law and the law 512 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: as a tool of partisan silencing instead of the law 513 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: as a tool of justice. It's deeply troubling. And we'll 514 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: see how this one. We'll see how this goes goes forward. 515 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: California is going to be tougher than the Texas situation, 516 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: I think because of the state wire tapping situation. UM, 517 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: but rich will be interesting. All Right, We've got Lisa 518 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: in Arizona on k O Y calling in. Lisa, Welcome, 519 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: hi back. UM. I had a couple of questions about 520 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: the UH case going on with Planned Parenthood in California. UM. 521 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: What UM, I wasn't understanding if these were freelance journalists. 522 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: Were they working for someone? Uh? No, I mean they're 523 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: they're journalists in the sense of citizen journalists. I mean 524 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: they created a false entity, the Center for Medical or 525 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: not a false nity, but they created the Center for 526 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: Medical Progress as the front for these meetings. Uh. And 527 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: then they created they undercover videos. I'm not even why 528 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: does it matter who they work for specifically? I mean 529 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: they're they're doing undercover journalism. Okay, yeah, I wasn't unclear 530 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: on NATO. UM. Also, of I know that they were 531 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I've seen them by the way, Uh they were disturbing. UM. 532 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm confused on is I know 533 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: that no federal funds are used for abortion, and am 534 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: I writing at well not really, because fund funds are 535 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: are fungible. I mean, when you give an organization, you know, 536 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: if you give an organization a hundred million dollars that 537 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: it wouldn't otherwise have. Uh, it's got a hundred million, 538 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars that wouldn't have, right, so it 539 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: maybe doesn't use those dollars specifically. Because keep in mind, 540 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: Planned pponent fights back whenever they say, whenever the UM 541 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: Congress or Republican Congress say that will fund Planned Parenthood 542 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: if they stopped doing abortions, they well they go no. 543 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: So clearly that's a that's an essential part of their mission. 544 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: And they're getting money from the federal government, so that's 545 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: covering a part of their budget, which means they have 546 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: more money to do other things in their budget. And 547 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: and what's the problem with them getting money for abortion? 548 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not against the laws. If you're like 549 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: if you're like me in your pro life the problem 550 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: is you think that it's federal tax dollars. It's money 551 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: that's being taken from you by force to do something 552 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: that's immoral. And by the way, as a matter of statute, 553 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: it's not supposed to happen. Uh, you have the High 554 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Amendment in place, which says that federal money is not 555 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: supposed to go to abortions. But money is in fact 556 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: going to organizations that perform abortions and they need that money. Okay, yeah, 557 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: that those are the two points I was confused on. 558 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: And like I said, I did see the commercials that 559 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: aired I mean at nauseam in our state and I'm 560 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: sure other what other places. And I saw a Fox 561 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: News when when this first It was a couple of 562 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: years ago when all this first came out, and I 563 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: was just, like I said, having some issues with because 564 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: these questions weren't answered to my satisfac to at Lisa, 565 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you a picture calling in from from Arizona. 566 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: The Height Deament, by the way, is a legislative legislative 567 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: act that prevents the use of federal funds to pay 568 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: for abortion unless it's to save the life of the mother. UM. 569 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: But we're they're giving a lot of money to plan 570 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: parenthood from federal government every year. And like I said, 571 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: if an organization has money, well that means it has money. 572 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't use that money for abortions. Doesn't really change the 573 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: fact that it's it's UH an abortion provider and that 574 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: it's using those funds. You know, you understand this, right 575 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: If I give you ten thousand dollars and say, well, 576 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: you you can't go buy a car with this, but 577 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: will you use that to cover your rent for a 578 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: few months? And now you have money to buy a car? 579 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: What what difference does it really make? Um? Or you know, 580 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: you pay your mortgage with it or whatever. Here, Look, 581 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: the key is is about prosecutorial discretion, and this is 582 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: why the Scorched Earth used the law as a weapon. 583 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: Approach the Democrats have is so troubling because a prosecutor 584 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: could look at this and say it's hate. You know, 585 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: it's it's murky as to whether or not there's an 586 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: expectation of privacy when you're talking about somebody in a 587 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: professional services capacity to medical facility. UM. And on top 588 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: of that, you know, we believe in a in a 589 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: robust First Amendment. They were engaged in this practice UM. 590 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: Not as not trying for some personal vendetta settling against 591 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: any individuals to a barrass them. This was about planned 592 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: parent to the organization. Prosecutor. Discretion is a very powerful tool, 593 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: and it means that the look at prosecutor can decide 594 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: not to push press charges against somebody just because here 595 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: fifteen felony counts, not hey, can you sign a UM? 596 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, can you can you sign this and tell 597 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: me you'll never do it again? That's also that also 598 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: would be discretion. But that's not what's going on here. 599 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: And that's why the political aspects of this are so 600 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: important because there they are throwing the book at these two, 601 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: that's what this is. And they're doing that because in 602 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: their minds, the sacred abortion facilities on the left are 603 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: under assault here and they want to make an example 604 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: of these undercover journalists because this is in California and 605 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: they can so they like I said, they're they're coming 606 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: at them with everything they can legally. And this is 607 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: going this is I think going to be a real 608 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: fight for these two and we'll see what ends up 609 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: having fifteen felony account that they may push. I don't 610 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: know what. We'll see what the the end result is, 611 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: but we will have to keep an eye on it. 612 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: Like I was saying, he's an x C, I a 613 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: officer who knows how to outsmart the enemies of liberty. 614 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,479 Speaker 1: But I do have very particular set of skills. Buck 615 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: Sexton with America Now Team. Your mission, should you choose 616 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: to accept it, called the Freedom Hunt Operations Center nine 617 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: hundred Buck make contact unless you're under hostile surveillance to 618 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: eight to five Russia Trump surveillance, spying. All of these 619 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: issues very much at the center of what's going on 620 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: in this country right now and uh dominating the news 621 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: cycle still day in and day out. I want to 622 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: talk to you about the latest here. Now. First, you 623 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: have senators who are coming out from the Senate Intelligence Committee, 624 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: the leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee, saying that they're 625 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: expanding their investigation of Russia's interference in the US presidential campaign. 626 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: They're saying they're going to remain independent and get to 627 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: the bottom of this. According to Fox News, so not 628 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: enough just to have the House looking to deal with this. 629 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: Now you also have the Senate. Well the Senate's been 630 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: doing this for a while, but the Senate saying that 631 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: they're expanding their investigation even furthert you've got two simultaneous 632 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: investigations involving are elected representatives spending countless man hours, lots 633 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: of time and effort looking at reviewing classified documents. I 634 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: wonder what they're going to come up with at the 635 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: end of this with regard to the Russian interference that 636 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: we don't know. I am very curious to see what 637 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: that will be. Um so or just start with that, 638 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: and then you also have on more so, the Senate's 639 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: going to broaden their probe. Okay, fun you have a 640 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: former Obama administration official who said some pretty startling stuff 641 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: on MSNBC earlier today. I was urging my former colleagues 642 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: and and frankly speaking, the people on the Hill. It 643 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: was more actually gained aimed at telling the Hill people 644 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: get as much information as you can, get as much 645 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: intelligence as you can before President Obama leaves the administration, 646 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 1: because I had a fear that somehow that information would 647 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: disappear with the senior people who left, so it would 648 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: be hidden away in the bureaucracy. Um that the Trump folks, 649 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: if they found out how we knew what we knew 650 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: about their the staff, the Trump staffs dealing with Russians, 651 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 1: that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, 652 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence ends. 653 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: Think about what this woman who was her name is, 654 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: Evelyn Farkass, She was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under Obama. 655 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: Think about what she's saying here that people with access 656 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: to classified information, we're so upset and astonished by the 657 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: connections between Trump, Trump staff and Russia. There was it 658 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: was so startling to them. Then they were worried. And 659 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: we're supposed to assume this is a reasonable worry. And 660 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: I'll get to that with you in a moment, because 661 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. It It is worried that Trump people 662 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: would come in and destroy this information. Let's just handle 663 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: this as rational, reasonable people for a moment, shall we. 664 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: Why the heck don't we know one single thing, one 665 00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: single uh unacceptable illicit contact converse ation And don't give 666 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: me the old sergoccislactogon to Flynn. By the way, was 667 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: that not a classified leak. We still we still have 668 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: people pretending that maybe it wasn't. Well, how else do 669 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: you know about a private phone call with an ambassador 670 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: foreign country? But you know, the government still we're not 671 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 1: getting information fast enough about this. We're not getting confirmation 672 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: or denial in the manner in which we should. But 673 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: let's really break this apart for a moment. You've got 674 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: a a former senior Defense Department officials saying that they 675 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: were so worried about what they found out in classified 676 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: channels between about Trump and Russia ties that they had 677 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that they were spreading the information around. 678 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: Is is the best that they can do? Then? Are 679 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: we to assume that anything happened other than my General 680 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: Flynn was a was a casualty. His career was a 681 00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: casualty of this process. And is that the best they 682 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: can do? That's it? They're they're they're yelling about this. 683 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they are crying fire in the theater here 684 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: over the Russia Trump connection and not she can't what 685 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: is the connection, miss Farcas if it were real, if 686 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: it necessitated this approach that she's talking about, which is 687 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: spreading information far and wide within the government because she's 688 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: so afraid that people coming in would betray their oath 689 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: to the American people in the Constitution, would destroy that 690 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: information and cover up for the president. Okay, well, what 691 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: did you have? What did you see? The answer is nothing. 692 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: So far, we have nothing. How many months now we've 693 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: been talking about this, they haven't been able to give 694 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: us one single conversation, one illicit meeting, one act of 695 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: collusion to justify all of the allegations of a massive 696 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: international conspiracy that through a presidential election. That's what they 697 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: really think happened, That's what they've been saying. They offer 698 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: no evidence. They have nothing. Now, let me give you 699 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: a a way the way that I see this right now, 700 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: and it's certainly an approach that I think would be 701 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: useful to take about these allegations. In general, modern liberalism 702 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: is a doctrine of hysteria, meaning that it's never it's 703 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 1: never a policy dispute that can be resolved between well 704 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 1: intentioned adults. It's always liberals. Progressives are good people, smart people, 705 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: and everybody who disagrees with them is bad and dumb, 706 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: an evil, even worse than bad and up evil. Well, 707 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: bad and evil kind of the same. And you see 708 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: this with just their reaction to the climate change UH 709 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: executive order repeals from yesterday. You see their reaction to 710 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: this on an on healthcare. I mean, let's let's just 711 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: go down the list. Does Trump want to repeal Obama's 712 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: orders on climate because he wants there to be jobs 713 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: and he doesn't think that that the the rate of 714 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: warming is what some of the previously wrong climatologists based 715 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: on their models that they won't even give us the 716 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: underlying data for does he Is it a real divergence 717 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 1: of opinion here or is it that Trump is trying 718 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 1: to destroy the planet? That they think Trump is destroying 719 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: the planet. And this is in mainstream newspapers, this is 720 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: on major news channels. Trump just wants to just he 721 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: wants to destroy the world. That's hysteria, that is beyond 722 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: the realm of normal discussion debate. That's hysteria. On healthcare, 723 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: is it that we want a free market? And do 724 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: do progressives think that we want a free market in healthcare? 725 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: Or that we are a bunch of heartless uh fat 726 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: cats in the Republican Party, even those of us who 727 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: don't have very much and and and are struggling to 728 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: make ends meet. But somehow we vote against our interests. 729 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: That's what they say. And you know, we don't like 730 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: poor people, we don't like minorities, and we just want 731 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 1: to throw old people in minorities and pull old people 732 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: minorities and poor people off of health care. We want 733 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,959 Speaker 1: to let them die in the streets. And I don't 734 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: have to search very hard to find examples of them 735 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: saying that. That's that's the way they view the other side. 736 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: Go down the issue. And when I say them, the 737 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: people in the Democratic Party, in the media, who have 738 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: the most influence and a other decision makers, this is 739 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: how they view the world. This is how they view 740 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: the policy disputes. So returning to my initial premise here, 741 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: modern liberalism is a doctrine of hysteria. They it's it's 742 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 1: not about it's it's not about trying to convince people 743 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: and bring them to the center. It is our side 744 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: is good and righteous and your side is bad and evil. 745 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: Now apply this to Trump and Russia. Given that we 746 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: know that there are progressive leftists in the government. I 747 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: worked with some of them. I'm aware of this too. 748 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: Given that we know that they viewed Donald Trump is 749 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: the worst thing to happen to this country, and you know, 750 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: they've some of them said the worst thing that happens 751 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: since nine eleven. I mean, they think this is absolutely terrible, 752 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: this is creeping fascism, this is the long dark night 753 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 1: of totalitary and tyranny. That's how they view Donald Trump. 754 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible that some individuals like ms 755 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: Farcas here when they would otherwise get access to conversations 756 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: that Trump people had, that you could that that could 757 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: be explained as the normal interactions that an incoming administration 758 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: would have with foreign leaders, including, by the way, some 759 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: unsavory foreign actors. You know, if you want to get 760 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: things done in the world, I can tell you this 761 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: from experience. Sometimes you have to deal with people overseas 762 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: that are not boy scouts. Sometimes you have to be 763 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: willing to deal with those who are in many ways odious. 764 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: But that's the you know, I'm keep in mind, I'm 765 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: not even going into the level now of although I 766 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: could of, oh, I'll have more flexibility after the election. 767 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: And oh, the Russia reset button with Hillary, they actually 768 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: had a button, they created a rese I mean, this 769 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: is just it's ridiculous, right, they were so oh b 770 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,959 Speaker 1: It's just big hugs. I mean, the Obama administration's foreign 771 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: policy could be summarized as hugs for dictators and you know, 772 00:48:55,080 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: bowing to despots. And yet here we are we have 773 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: senior former senior government officials saying that they were so 774 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: terrified at the incoming Trump administration's dishonesty and all the 775 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: bad things that would happen that they had to spread 776 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: classified far and wide, that they had to spread classified 777 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: information around because they thought that it would be destroyed. 778 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: And it's only I think when we take into account 779 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: that they have a hysterical, not like haha, but hystorical 780 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 1: as in, uh maniacal, crazed, overheated, hyperventilating view of how 781 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: bad Trump is. That they would see communications allegedly with 782 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: foreign actors Russia, whomever that would set off all these 783 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: alarms in their heads. You see what I'm saying here. 784 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: If the conversations were bad, Does anyone really believe we 785 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't have seen excerpts in the Washington Post if the 786 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 1: conversations were damning and would destroy this administration's credibility. Does 787 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 1: anybody really believe that someone in the government We've already 788 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: had a leak in the paper that cost the National 789 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: Security Advisor. His people say, oh, Bucky lie depends I know, 790 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: but it was only possible or only the situation only 791 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: happened because of the pressure created by the media by 792 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: releasing that information out there, which is still the government 793 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, neither confirmed nor denied. Who knows, right, if 794 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: there was something that they saw, If MS Farcas could 795 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: assert that there was collusion between Trump, Trump associates and 796 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: Russia about the election, why isn't she saying that, Why 797 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: don't we know about that? And we go back to 798 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: exactly what she said. I was urging quote, I was 799 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: urging more former colleagues and frankly speaking uh, speaking to 800 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: the people on the hill. It was more actually and 801 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: at telling the Hill people get as much information as 802 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: you can, get as much intelligence as you can before 803 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: President Obama leaves the administration, because I had a fear 804 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: that somehow that information would disappear. She had a fear, 805 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 1: you see, Well, is that fear exacerbated? Is it worse 806 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: than it should have been? Because well, she thinks Trump 807 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: is so evil? Right, if there were real evidence of 808 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: something bad, wouldn't we know, wouldn't we have been told? Now, 809 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: let me ask you this as well as we work 810 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: through this together. This is important. What do we think 811 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: is the more likely scenario that an incoming Republican president 812 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: president elect and his top officials who are aware of 813 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: the government's collection capabilities and aware that the Internet is forever, 814 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: and aware that they're under not just tremendous scrutiny, but 815 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: they are under siege by the media, they would have 816 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: been sloppy and reaching out to the Russians and creating 817 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: some international or continuing to talk about this conspiracy to 818 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: deprive have Hillary of her her her duly rightfully given 819 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: post of President of the United States, because you know, 820 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: Hillary was just supposed to have this, that there was 821 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: this massive international conspiracy for which there is still zero 822 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: evidence presented. Is that more likely? That's option one. We 823 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: can say that's behind door number one. That's a what 824 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: about be that progressives, who, as I said, are part 825 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: of this doctrine of hysteria, because modern liberalism is a 826 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,439 Speaker 1: doctrine of hysteria, that progressives working in the government, we're 827 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 1: so disappointed and so so forlorn, so saddened and yes, 828 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: hysterical over Hillary's loss that they saw in communications that 829 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be talking about and we shouldn't be talking 830 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: about in sense that we shouldn't know about it. But 831 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 1: they saw on communications that were innocuous, not a conspiracy, 832 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,919 Speaker 1: but just perhaps the beginnings of what could be a conspiracy, 833 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: and that they turned this in their minds into um 834 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: horrific uh multinational evil plot that if if only they 835 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 1: could just get more information, they could prove they didn't 836 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: have the information, but they knew they'd find it, and 837 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: so they just wanted as many people as possible to 838 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: see that the very beginning. It sounds almost like I'm 839 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: describing any number of conspiracy theories, aren't I what's more 840 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 1: likely that Trump worked with the Russians too defeat Hillary 841 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: in the election and took all of the risks and 842 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: we haven't found anything about it, Or that progressives who 843 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: tend to be hysterical anyway about climate change and healthcare 844 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 1: and every other issue that comes up of national importance, 845 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: hate Trump so much that they saw nefarious conspiracy in 846 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 1: channels that they shouldn't have been talking about anyway, they 847 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been sharing anyway. But they figured this was 848 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: the beginning of what could be a reversion to a 849 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: Hillary presidency, or at least the destruction of the Trump presidency, 850 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: and so they just ran thid. I think you can 851 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: come to a pretty straightforward conclusion about that based on 852 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: what we already know. Sure, the Senate in the House 853 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: should continue on, but let's play the odds here, folks. 854 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: All right, team, welcome back. I just want to remind 855 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: you that you can listen to the show on demand 856 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: if you miss any part of it, or you want 857 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: to listen to a part of it again, give the 858 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: detail we go into that wouldn't be strange at all. 859 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: We deep dive like it's our job, because it is 860 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: our job here in the Freedom Hunt. I Heart Radio 861 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,439 Speaker 1: has a fantastic app you can always go and play 862 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 1: on demand. They're also on iTunes buck Sexing with America Now. 863 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: You can subscribe and then you'll download the full podcast 864 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: every day. Please do just go into your iTunes search 865 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 1: Buck Sex and American Now and then you'll see it'll 866 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: pop up on subscribe. All right, we got a bunch 867 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: of calls coming in. John in West Virginia on the 868 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: I Heart app. What's up John? All right? But shields 869 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: are a time the first time caller. I love your show. 870 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: You're very smart man. I appreciate what you do. Uh, 871 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: I'm just so appalled about the way this is going. 872 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the American people have spoken, you know, 873 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: you won the election, and all they're doing is just 874 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 1: destroying and destroying him and his credibility and everything he's 875 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: trying to do. And all he's trying to do is 876 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: fix this country with you Obama left and shambles. And 877 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: you know the investigation with Hillary. You know, when you 878 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: get a federal warrant, they come busting in your door. 879 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: They don't like hand it to you and wait till 880 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: you clear all the evidence out. You know, she was 881 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: given a lot of leeway to get destroy a lot 882 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 1: of things. And you know this is just like I think, 883 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 1: to cover up to get rid of all the you know, 884 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 1: the accusations about them, the Democrats, and all the stuff 885 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: that that they did, you know, through through Hillary's campaign 886 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: and everything. Well, Hillary definitely got special treatment on the 887 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 1: server in resting gaition. And I had people telling me, 888 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, when I would go on CNN early on, 889 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: I was I would be on panels John why I 890 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: was the only person who had ever held a security 891 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: clearance And people say, well, I mean it's not it's 892 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: not a crime if she has classified information on her 893 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 1: email servers, if she didn't, you know, if it wasn't marked, 894 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, actually, actually, you know, you bozos, it 895 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: is a crime. Actually the marking means nothing. But don't 896 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 1: ask the kid who at a top secret clearance ask 897 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, democrat operative, you know so and so who's 898 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 1: skyping in from the Hampton's. It's just ridiculous, man, it's ridiculous. 899 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, Hillary got a lot of a lot of 900 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: special treatment on that, and even with Bill and the 901 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: d O j on in the airplane, you know, on 902 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: the runway. How is it someone explains, how is it 903 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: that that you don't get a recusal from Attorney General 904 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 1: red A. Lynch. I know they announced no criminal charges 905 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: a few days later, but the investigation was never formally closed. 906 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: She should have recused herself, if nothing else. For the optics. Yeah, 907 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: they did so so many worst things, like Trump, I mean, 908 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: being accused of I think I think it's all bologney 909 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: and this man is trying to fix this country. I mean, 910 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: it's not like he's trying to rule us John, he doesn't. 911 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: He's a billionaire, he's super famous, you know, he's got 912 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: a beautiful wife and family. He doesn't need that, he 913 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: doesn't need this, So he's gonna be a Russian agent. 914 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: This is crazy, I told me, But what do you 915 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: think he's doing this for. He can be off Walson 916 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: and feel with his wife and trout on around the country. 917 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: You don't need to No, No, he's he's taking orders 918 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: from a guy named Old Game, meeting him under our 919 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: old egg, geting him under a bridge. I mean, it's 920 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: it's it's total nonsense. But thanks for calling in, John, 921 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: I got I gotta get a new break here. But 922 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: hield till my friend. Thank you. Welcome back, Team Buck. 923 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: We are joined by our friend David Harsanyi. He's a 924 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: senior editor at the Federalists. His latest piece is Devin 925 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: Nunez has absolutely no reason to recuse himself. I completely agree, David. 926 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in. Always my pleasure. Thank you. Yeah, 927 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: And I promise I would have had David on even 928 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: if he thought that Devin Junior has had lots of 929 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: reasons to recuse himself. Maybe we'll get David French, who 930 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: does think you should recuse himself from National Review on tomorrow. 931 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,919 Speaker 1: But for today, I get somebody who's who's on team 932 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: buck on this one? Uh, what give me your give 933 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: you your sense of this? I mean, I just I 934 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: keep hearing people say he needs to recuse himself because 935 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: of the appearance of impropriety. And I turn around and say, 936 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: I just hear people talking about an appearance of impropriety. 937 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: What's improper? Tell me what's improper? Well, I get their 938 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: Their contention is that he is playing uh, that he's 939 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: a partisan, and then he's sort of interfering on behalf 940 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: of the president. But listen, even if even if you 941 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: are a partisan, and let's be honest, everyone's a partisan 942 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: being a politician, by literally meeting your partisan, in some sense, 943 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: he and and he is helping Donald is doing. Um, 944 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: I still don't you should recuse himself unless he does 945 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: something unethical and he has not done that. I mean, 946 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: there's and you would know more about this than I do, obviously, 947 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 1: but there's nothing wrong with going to the president with 948 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: intel that is not about an investigation that's focused on him. 949 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: This isn't about Russia to tell him that something happened. 950 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he didn't exactly you know, go through 951 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: the correct protocol to talk to his uh you know, 952 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: people on his committee, they certainly didn't do anything wrong. 953 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: And other than that, I don't think he did anything 954 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: wrong at all. You know, I was asked by this 955 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: on on Fox earlier in the week, and I had 956 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 1: to just say it there there really is no protocol 957 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: for a an investigation that involves a lot of classified 958 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: information and the possible surveillance of a current sitting president. 959 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is outside the boundaries of 960 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 1: this is how we do things. Just so everyone understands, 961 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: there was never a time when I was in the 962 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: CIA were like, yeah, you know, what are we gonna 963 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: do about all that information? We need to gather together 964 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: about whether or not there were surveillance of the president 965 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: like this, this is this is uncharged a territory, right 966 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of a lot of liberals and a 967 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of progressives had a big problem with the n 968 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,479 Speaker 1: s A is uh you know section seven or two 969 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: collecting uh information, unmasking and not minimizing people correctly that 970 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: And they even had a hearing I think Bernie Sanders 971 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: was running it where they were concerned about this happening 972 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: to politicians. Um, listen, I don't think I'm not one 973 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: of these people thinks the n s A or anyone 974 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: else is going around snooping on people for no reason. 975 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that there can't be abuse of 976 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: things that are legal. And no one saying that incidental 977 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 1: collections is illegal. I mean maybe someone saying it. They're wrong. 978 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: What I think is important is that someone at the 979 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,479 Speaker 1: CIA may have abused their power and collected information about 980 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Trump's family or whatever it is in the intel community. 981 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Whether it was any we're not sure aware, yeah, right, right, 982 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: So wherever it was, I think that that's a worthwhile 983 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: thing to look into, and I'm not sure that he 984 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,439 Speaker 1: should recuse himself until we see what he has. Now, 985 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: if he has been like blown this out of proportion 986 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 1: and there's really not any anything there and he he 987 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: was being partisan and he did undermine an investigation, then 988 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: this credibility suffers, and then I'll have a different take 989 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: on it. But right now, there's no proof. It's not 990 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: like Devin Nunez has done things that you know, I said, 991 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: crazy things are ever done. Anything that would make me 992 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: think that he is some kind of ultra part isn't. 993 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Certainly no more than Adam Schiff, who who who is 994 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 1: this part of anyone else. All of these congressional investigations 995 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: involved people that have an R or a D by 996 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: their name when they're on TV asking questions and going 997 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 1: through all this, and a lot of the congressional investigation 998 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: stuff does have the feel of a show trial. Let's 999 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 1: be honest. I mean that that's what it turns into 1000 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 1: a lot of grand especially with the Gorsuch nomination, you 1001 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: see a lot of grandstanding. It's not about getting to 1002 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: the truth. It's about both sides, political sides having their say. 1003 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: This is just obvious, right, But I think it's important 1004 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 1: for one to keep that in mind. But you know, 1005 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: you have this former did you hear this woman by 1006 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: the way, Farcas on on Morning Joe, She said that 1007 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: there you know, I was urging my former colleagues. She's 1008 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: a former d D Deputy assistant sectory urging my former 1009 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: colleagues and speaking to people on the hill in order 1010 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: to get as much intelligent as you can before Obama 1011 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: leaves the administration. Uh, that's more or less what she said. 1012 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 1: And that means, David, that they must have seen some stuff. 1013 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: So if if this woman saying that we saw stuff 1014 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: that raised some flags, why is Nunez saying, you know, 1015 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: they had stuff that was collect you know, you know, 1016 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: for for her, for her to be telling the truth, 1017 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: this former Obama administration senior Pentagon official, there would have 1018 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: had to have been exactly the kind of information that 1019 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: Nunez was alluding to next week, So why is he 1020 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: a liar? And we shouldn't believe him? But you know, 1021 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: she's a truth teller. You know, sometimes where like everyone 1022 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: is against what you you where you are, and everyone's 1023 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: attacking you, and you sit back, You're like, am I'm 1024 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: maybe I'm missing something. I don't understand what's happening here. 1025 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand everything he said was couched in a 1026 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: way that that seemed reasonable to me. That he never 1027 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: said that that there were wire taps of Trump Tower. 1028 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: He never said Trump was vindicated, He never said anything 1029 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: of that nature. He simply said that there was a 1030 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 1: file that he saw, um that shows that there might 1031 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,439 Speaker 1: have been incidental collections and perhaps Donald Trump transition members. 1032 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Whatever however he catched it, it seems very reasonable to me. Um, 1033 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: clearly something was going on, and I just don't understand 1034 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: why we can't get to the bottom of that. I mean, 1035 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: we're doing this other Russia stuff, color this Russia stuff constantly, 1036 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: every rumor is blown out of proportion. You know, Adam 1037 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Schiff says that he has concrete evidence or whatever, however 1038 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: he phrased it that that there was collusion that we've 1039 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: not seen either, But no one's telling him to step down. 1040 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: And so I don't get it. And you know, the 1041 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: more I read about it, Like you said, I'm always 1042 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: asking people, I don't understand what specifically your problem is. 1043 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Being pro Trump being part of the transition team is 1044 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: not illegal. He has done nothing illegal or unethical. So 1045 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta I'll have on, have on 1046 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: some of the conservatives that disagree with you on that, 1047 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: because they're out there are people that are writing saying 1048 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: he should step down. I was like, well, he steps down, 1049 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: or he has to step down. Sessions has to accuse himself. 1050 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: And does anyone notice a pattern here? The administration hasn't 1051 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: been around that long, and this is all in response 1052 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: to public pressure. This is not you know, and and 1053 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: these are recusals. Is as in a decision that somebody makes. 1054 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: It's a judgment call. It's not like you know, I mean, look, 1055 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: Loretta Lynch didn't recuse yourself in the Hillary investigation. But 1056 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to go too far down that path. 1057 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 1: One other point that I'd like to I like to 1058 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: make her and I just wanted to throw it out 1059 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: to you, David, and that is if what this woman 1060 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Farcus and others have said that there was sketchy communication 1061 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 1: going on between Trump officials in Russia or what. We're 1062 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: not even clear on who's talking or anything. But if 1063 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 1: there were some cause for concern, don't don't don't We 1064 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: think at this point we would have heard from some 1065 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: leak or some Democrat, uh Paula Titian or news outlet 1066 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 1: what it was. We keep being told there's so much smoke. 1067 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: There's so much smoke. If there was fire, I think 1068 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: at this point somebody would have said something, Well, I mean, 1069 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 1: how patient can we be about this? It seems sometimes 1070 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,439 Speaker 1: that it's just this sort of thing that people want 1071 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: to be out there so they can use it as 1072 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: a political you know, sledge hammer. Um. Moreover, you know 1073 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: something I wonder, Listen, there's if Donald Trump and members 1074 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: of his campaign colluded with people from Russia or said, 1075 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, can you get us this information or whatever 1076 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 1: they did I would think that that's really problematic, and 1077 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump knew about it, I think you should 1078 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: probably be impeached over it. But even then, even if 1079 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: all that was true, it's still I'm not sure illegal 1080 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: for someone in a Trump campaign to talk to someone 1081 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: in Russia. I don't Mike Michael, I've had I've had 1082 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: former federal prosecutors on the show David, like, what's the 1083 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: crime here? They're like, I don't know. We keep being 1084 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: told that we're gonna find out, We're gonna find out. 1085 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 1: What I mean. We had Aaron Burnett on CNN, so well, 1086 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: listen to this treason. I'd be like, I mean, I 1087 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: wasn't there, but it would have been like, no, Rain, 1088 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: this is not treason. That's that's not how this works. 1089 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: Throw that word around left and right. I don't listen. 1090 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I think I don't like it, and I think it 1091 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: would be a problem for many reasons. But just because 1092 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't like it doesn't make it illegal. And I 1093 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: still don't understand what the crime is. So we don't 1094 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 1: even have a crime. I'm not sure why any intelligence 1095 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: that should have a file being thrown around with the president, 1096 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, stuff and information about the president I think 1097 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm all for everyone having the same rights, but I 1098 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: think that if the president is being spied on him 1099 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 1: by any sort of common understanding, that's called spying, you know, 1100 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: there should be a very good reason for it. And 1101 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: if it happened and there wasn't a very good reason 1102 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: for it, we should know about it. The only likely 1103 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 1: crime that we know of is actually the leaking of 1104 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: the details of a phone call between the national incoming 1105 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: national security advisor and a foreign ambassador. That is the 1106 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: only crime that anyone has been able to legitimately point 1107 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: to and say this is a thing that happened. Well, 1108 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 1: everyone saying that shouldn't you know? He won't share his source, 1109 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 1: So I mean, why did you have to share its source? 1110 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 1: It's the inform the validity of the information that matters 1111 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: up to source. I swear David and I didn't coordinate 1112 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: this before. David I would say the same thing yesterday. 1113 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 1: I was like, well, what is the if it's a 1114 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, if it's some dude from within the intelligence community. 1115 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he wants the death threats against him 1116 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 1: and his family for coming forward and being the one 1117 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: that destroys the Democrats Russia collusion Trump narratives, but the 1118 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: entire Bush administration. All everyone was talking about is how 1119 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: we need more whistle blowers and we have to protect them. 1120 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Now we have a whistle blower, and we want to 1121 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: we want to expose him, and we want to we 1122 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: want to, uh, you know, throw a guy off that 1123 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 1: have a guy, you know, recuse himself because he's protecting 1124 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 1: a source. Said that that was that's key. You had 1125 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: journalists hounding Nunez in the bowels of the capital, you know, 1126 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,439 Speaker 1: of a Capitol hill. I don't know if you saw 1127 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 1: this gaggle, but CNN and others you know, who's your source? 1128 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Who's your source? And I was like, you guys are journalists. 1129 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: You want him to expose his source in a highly 1130 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: sensitive national security matter just because you want him to. 1131 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I know, Well, Mike Flynn lost his job because someone 1132 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: leaked something, because anyone looking to see what that leaker is. 1133 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean, no one really seems to care about that. 1134 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's just such hypocrisy. It's hard to take. Now. 1135 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 1: You know, if the guy turns out to be a 1136 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: fraud and he's just doing this for political reasons, we're 1137 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna find out if if we're gonna see these files 1138 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: so or I mean we won't see them, but whatever, 1139 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 1: when we learn about this information, why can't we wait 1140 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks for that to happen. That's the 1141 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 1: they keep demanding the you know, the demands get really 1142 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 1: loud and they're unreasonable, and then when they're not met, 1143 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: the next day is well, the demands haven't been met. 1144 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 1: And then when they say we'll meet the demands, then 1145 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 1: they move on to another issue. I mean, it's just 1146 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: to me, it's such a construct all the time, and 1147 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 1: ultimately also the the whole, this whole conspiracy. And I 1148 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 1: know some really smart conservatives that that buy into this, David, 1149 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 1: and and it hurts me on the inside. I'm like, 1150 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 1: come on, guys, they really think that, I mean, I 1151 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,839 Speaker 1: think that they think the worst, Like they think Trump's 1152 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 1: going to prison. They think that, uh, this is all 1153 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: a job, and look at I want to look at them. 1154 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: And I have said this as some of them, you know, 1155 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: in private, like this is not even a good conspiracy 1156 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,600 Speaker 1: for Trump. This all comes down to hacking Podesta's emails, 1157 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,839 Speaker 1: so that so what who cares? Which they say flipped 1158 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: the election, which is is an incredibly incredible overstatement. Not 1159 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 1: even an overstate. It's just a complete lie. There is 1160 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: zero evidence that that moved any needle anywhere. I don't 1161 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,720 Speaker 1: buy that it did. But even then, why do they 1162 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 1: think Donald Trump is going to be impeached? I mean, 1163 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I think they've gotten in their heads that Donald Trump 1164 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 1: is going to be impeached. It's not gonna happen. I mean, 1165 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,800 Speaker 1: unless there's something out there that we haven't heard about. 1166 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: This stuff will not make that happen for them. I 1167 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: don't think. So one one more for your day, and 1168 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 1: then we got to run a break. But I've been 1169 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: I've been saying this hour that I think that the 1170 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: liberal modern liberalism is a doctrine of hysteria. And I 1171 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,560 Speaker 1: went down a whole bunch of issues where a hysterical 1172 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 1: point of view is commonplace and widespread, whether it's on 1173 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 1: climate change, the world's gonna end healthcare, we want old 1174 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 1: and poor people to die. I mean, you go down 1175 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 1: the list. This is almost doctrine on the or orthodoxy 1176 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 1: on the left. Now, I think that there might have 1177 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 1: been some people working in national security after Hillary loss 1178 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 1: that that they kind of they kind of lost it 1179 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, they they they went into 1180 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 1: a weird, dark, weird conspiracy place, and that's how we 1181 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 1: get some of this reporting on all the Trump Russia collusion. Hey, buck, 1182 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: this is not new in in I forgot what year was, 1183 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 1: But during the Bush administration near the end, about fifty 1184 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Democrats believe that George Bush has something to do with 1185 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: nine eleven. So people believe crazy things all the time. 1186 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: You you hope at least that those within government and 1187 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,479 Speaker 1: those who are responsible for, you know, for a well 1188 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 1: being and so forth, don't believe conspiracy theories and and 1189 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 1: and you know, and that the media doesn't repeat them, 1190 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: but they do. This Russia stuff is nuts. Some people, 1191 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to mention their names sound like 1192 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 1: they're nuts. I mean they sound crazy, and I like them. 1193 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,719 Speaker 1: They're nice, they're smart, nice Bee. I do not listen. 1194 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: It's been a tough year for a lot of us, right. 1195 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't like what happened that much either, but it 1196 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 1: is what it is, and we you know, and you 1197 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: have to just keep your wits about you. I'm not 1198 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm open to the idea that something wasn't right or 1199 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 1: that someone did something wrong, but you're going to have 1200 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: to provide evidence. At some point Dave convinced themselves that 1201 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: something happened with Russia. It's edition on and on and on. 1202 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: Yet the evidence is not there yet. So I think 1203 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 1: a lot of them maybe, you know, just to play 1204 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 1: this game to to get the you know, the base 1205 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 1: all worked up. But it is, it's hysterical and I 1206 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,600 Speaker 1: think it reflects poorly on us right now. Is a 1207 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: nation frankly, and uh and nothing else gets done, and 1208 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's kind of a it's a giant. 1209 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: It is. It is on I mean, we I guess 1210 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 1: we have to go through it for political reasons in 1211 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, if we don't do the investigator, 1212 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 1: but it's a giant. It's literally it is gonna end 1213 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 1: up being a giant waste of time. And they're not 1214 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: going to accept the results of the investigation anyway when 1215 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: they don't show that, you know, Trump is a Russian stooge. 1216 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 1: But anyway, David Arsani Everybody's senior editor at the Federalist. 1217 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 1: His latest is on the Federalist dot com. David, great 1218 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 1: to have you, my friend, Thanks for joining any time, 1219 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. H lines are lit. Let's take 1220 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 1: some calls. Team Melissa in West Virginia on the I 1221 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 1: Heart app Melissa. Good to have you flo that you 1222 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: have opportunity to secret sir, Thank you, ma'am um. I 1223 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 1: just wanted to know your faults on this. It's purported 1224 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 1: the year equating said that they would all hang if 1225 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 1: Trump was elected, which we know is the traditional punishment 1226 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: for a treason. Is it possible that this miss Parcus 1227 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 1: has been advised to scapegoat herself in order to protect 1228 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: the higher up? Uh? Well, I haven't heard anything about that. 1229 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 1: That your first comment about the hanging, I have to say, well, 1230 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're What are you referring to 1231 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 1: with that? Did you mean that like metaphorically or what 1232 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: are we talking about here? No, During one of the debates, 1233 01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Hillary was purported to have had a see it when 1234 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: she was made to look bad because her staff didn't. 1235 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: And then you read somewhere we're all gonna hang if 1236 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 1: if if Trump was if Trump is elected, we'll all hang. 1237 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe that at all. I'm sorry I have 1238 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: to tell you that that did not happen. But but 1239 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, let let me go with the right. I 1240 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: understand you're saying that, but I'm just telling you, whoever 1241 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: reported that that's that's not a thing that happened. Um. 1242 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 1: But uh, Farcas as a scapegoat. I don't think she's 1243 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,840 Speaker 1: a scapegoat. I think she probably thinks she's a truth 1244 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: teller and will be protected by the liberal establishment for 1245 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 1: coming forward with this. Although I have to say she's 1246 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 1: put herself in a I don't think any lawyer would 1247 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: have advised her to say what she said today on MSNBC. 1248 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 1: They should clearly call her to testify before Congress. I mean, 1249 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: if they don't, but let me say this, Melissa. If 1250 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: if Farcas is not called to testify before the Senate 1251 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 1: or the House or both, whatever the the committees investigating this, 1252 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,600 Speaker 1: then the investigation is absolutely a sham because here you 1253 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 1: have somebody who is going right to the heart of 1254 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 1: the matter staying that they saw stuff collected on the 1255 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,160 Speaker 1: president and his top people that was damn that was 1256 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: so you know, terrifying that they had to spread it 1257 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: around because they were going to get rid of it 1258 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 1: with the new administration. Well, she's this is a former 1259 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: senior Pentagon official. She's either a liar or saying some 1260 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 1: very important stuff, and she should be on the record 1261 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,720 Speaker 1: under oath saying it. But thank you for calling in 1262 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 1: from West Virginia and John in Ohio w w v A. 1263 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: What's up, John, I'm good. It sounds like you're on speaker. 1264 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Get closer to the speaker, John, I think we we 1265 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: we interrupted? Uh, John's John's doing a P nine t 1266 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: X right now, so he's gonna come back over. Isn't 1267 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 1: that the one where you right or no insanity? Is 1268 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: that the one where you get the T shirt? Anyway? Sorry? John, 1269 01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 1: go ahead, okay, No, not what you're calling in regards 1270 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 1: to what happened with you gotta speak into the phone man. 1271 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 1: We gotta go to the next caller that put the 1272 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 1: phone close up to your mouth. Go ahead, up and 1273 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 1: we lost him. Had a feeling, had a feeling that 1274 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,720 Speaker 1: was gonna happen. Clearly, he's not a not a he 1275 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 1: doesn't like. He doesn't like. Isn't p. P ninety X 1276 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 1: is also right? That's the thing where you have the tapes, 1277 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: you go home and you do the the aerobic stuff. Yeah, 1278 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: I should probably give that a shot sometimes. Uh Well, John, 1279 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 1: thank you for calling in. Sorry that we couldn't get 1280 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 1: the audio to work out there. Uh personally, I blame 1281 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 1: I blame the n s A or sor Roast or 1282 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 1: some combination thereof some some sketchy outfit out. There is 1283 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 1: a knocking calls off from the Freedom Hut desk, from 1284 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut board. So we gotta talk a bit 1285 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 1: about the the fight over the Gorsis Corsis nomination and 1286 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: also sanctuary cities. They are already suing Seattle kicked it off. 1287 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 1: They're suing the administration. The sanctuary city battle is underway, 1288 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 1: my friends. We're going to get into that in the 1289 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 1: next hour, and uh some other very important and interesting 1290 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 1: stories that I want to share with you. Bug Sexton 1291 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 1: with America. Now, the Freedom Hut is fired up as 1292 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 1: Team Buck as symbols shouldered as shoulder shields high call 1293 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: in eight four four d Buck. That's eight four four 1294 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,799 Speaker 1: to eight to five. Welcome back, everybody. We have Hans 1295 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,719 Speaker 1: von Spakovsky as our guest now. He's a senior legal 1296 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 1: fell at the Heritage Foundation, former FBC commissioner and Department 1297 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: of Justice lawyer, also author of the book Obama's Enforcer, 1298 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 1: Eric Holder's Justice Department. Hans, great to have you back. 1299 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back. So can we we got 1300 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of legal issues to run through here. Uh. First, 1301 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the sanctuary city fight 1302 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: that is is not just looming, it is now underway. 1303 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 1: You've got Seattle, Seattle suing the Trump administration over the 1304 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 1: Sanctuary Cities Order. At the heart of this the claim 1305 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,679 Speaker 1: that we're seeing from not just Seattle, the other cities 1306 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 1: as well. They say the federal government cannot force local 1307 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 1: police to enforce federal law. You say, what, well, it's 1308 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 1: certainly true that they can't do that, but then the 1309 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,920 Speaker 1: Just Department is in trying to force them to um 1310 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 1: enforce federal law. What they are saying is that, uh, 1311 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: you local city cannot prevent your law enforcement officials from 1312 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:45,200 Speaker 1: sending information to the federal government about illy aliens that 1313 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 1: you have arrested. And that's a provision in federal immigration law. 1314 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,560 Speaker 1: And uh it is. It is fully and completely enforceable. 1315 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 1: So what I've heard, by the way, is that there 1316 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 1: are these other there there are these jurisdictions that are 1317 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,599 Speaker 1: they're all supposed to let the federal government know when 1318 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 1: they have and an illegal immigrant in custody. Some of 1319 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 1: them don't even do that unless it meets I think 1320 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 1: in California have to meet a certain threshold of criminality 1321 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 1: for them to even notify the federal government. So they're 1322 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,679 Speaker 1: taking it upon themselves to make that distinction on their 1323 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,280 Speaker 1: on their own. But then there's the issue of detainers, 1324 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,839 Speaker 1: which means that the federal government asks local law enforcement 1325 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: to hold on to somebody until they can come pick 1326 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 1: them up. How does what's the legality of that? They say, well, 1327 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 1: we don't have to do that. That Uh, that issue 1328 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:42,719 Speaker 1: is undecided. In other words, Um, the courts have come 1329 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 1: down on different sides of that, So we don't know 1330 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 1: whether that's enforceable, um or or not. But one thing 1331 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 1: that the these local cities cannot do and don't have 1332 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:59,000 Speaker 1: a right to do, is to force the Justice Department 1333 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 1: to award them grants. Because remember one of the other 1334 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: things that Sessions General Sessions announced on Monday was that, 1335 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:13,560 Speaker 1: um he's got discretionary authority over more than four billion 1336 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 1: dollars in money that the Justice Department gives out to 1337 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,520 Speaker 1: cities and counties across the country for law enforcement purposes. 1338 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:27,160 Speaker 1: Um he has said, no city, no county with the 1339 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,639 Speaker 1: sanctuary policy is going to get any of that money. 1340 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 1: And there's no way that these cities like Seattle, no 1341 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 1: matter what kind of threats they put out, there's no 1342 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 1: way that they can force the Justice Department to give 1343 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 1: them that grant money. And in fact, it makes it 1344 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. Why the world with the Just Department 1345 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 1: give federal funds to a local jurisdiction that is doing 1346 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:57,519 Speaker 1: everything I can to obstruct law enforcement in the federal 1347 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 1: immigration area. Now the District X or the the jurisdictions 1348 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 1: that are lining up to oppose the federal government on this, 1349 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 1: specifically to push back against the with withholding or the 1350 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 1: you know whatever not giving removing funds from these law 1351 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 1: enforcement grants to these cities and and and areas of 1352 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 1: the country. They say that this is similar to the 1353 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision over Obamacare, where under Obamacare, the the 1354 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,680 Speaker 1: law was saying you either expand your medicaid provision or 1355 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 1: will take away all your medicaid money, and that actually 1356 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 1: was viewed as or the court did not accept that 1357 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 1: as as as law. They said that this is similar 1358 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 1: to that. Why is this different because medicaid Medicaid is 1359 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 1: considered an entitlement, you know, it's a it's an entitlement 1360 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:50,600 Speaker 1: like Social Security. The money from the Justice Department is 1361 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 1: purely discretionary funds. You can't get it unless you actually 1362 01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 1: apply for it. And um, the Justice Department has uh 1363 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 1: full full like I said, discretionary authority to decide who 1364 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 1: gets it. That's not the case with medicaid funds. Medicaid funds. 1365 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 1: States are entitled to those basically no matter what. The 1366 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 1: federal government can't just say well, we don't like your 1367 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,880 Speaker 1: application for medicaid funds, We're not going to give it 1368 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: to you. That's very different from the money we're talking 1369 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: about at the Justice Department. All right, let's talk a 1370 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 1: bit about Gorseitch and the nomination battle underway. We had 1371 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 1: Oklahoma Republican Senator Jim inhoffa uh saying that, well, they're 1372 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna go nuclear on this one. Should McConnell exercise the 1373 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:49,600 Speaker 1: nuclear option? Yes? Are you concerned about the precedent that 1374 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 1: that sets, Well, no, I'm really not, because he was 1375 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 1: unprecedented that he would change the rules to start with. 1376 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 1: He did that, and uh, you know, I was with 1377 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Gorss yesterday. I've never been around a guy that is 1378 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 1: more qualified. And everyone agrees. Look all of these guys 1379 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 1: that are complaining about him right now, they all voted 1380 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 1: for to be a tense circuit, and no one opposed him, 1381 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 1: and and so right now it's a political game and whatever. 1382 01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,840 Speaker 1: I would just say this, Chris, He's going to be confirmed. 1383 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 1: He's going to be confirmed. If they want to, they can, right, Hans, 1384 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 1: there's nothing. The Republicans in the Senate have no excuse 1385 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 1: here because they do have the pathway of the nuclear 1386 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: option should they choose to exercise it. That's right. All 1387 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: they have to do is copy what Harry Reid did. 1388 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,000 Speaker 1: And anybody who thinks, oh, that's that's a bad precedent, 1389 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,880 Speaker 1: I would ask you this, is there anybody out there 1390 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:47,600 Speaker 1: who actually believe that if we fast forwarded back to 1391 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,400 Speaker 1: when a Democratic president gets elected again, does anybody doubt 1392 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 1: that the Democrats, um, if they get the chance to 1393 01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:01,040 Speaker 1: point somebody to the Supreme Court, wouldn't immediately finish what 1394 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,439 Speaker 1: Harry Reid did and get rid of the filibuster for 1395 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 1: Supreme Court nominees. I certainly don't. I think the the 1396 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: reason he did in the last time is because Soda, 1397 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Mayor and Kagan got through. Republicans didn't play the obstruction game. Yeah, 1398 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,440 Speaker 1: And and if they hadn't, then they would have added 1399 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court to the rule change that Harry Harry 1400 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 1: Reid had made. Listen, if the Republicans don't, if the 1401 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 1: Democrats filibuster and gorste can't get through, and the Republicans 1402 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: don't then exercise this option and get rid of the filibuster, 1403 01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 1: they will be in big, big trouble because that the 1404 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 1: you you and I both know. Um, the Supreme Court. 1405 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 1: What was a big issue for voters all over the 1406 01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 1: country in the last election. Yeah, I mean I remember 1407 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. Oh actually, uh, we we have Chuck Schumer 1408 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 1: saying it himself. I feel about things. We much prefer 1409 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,840 Speaker 1: the of up or down votes and majority rule than 1410 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,759 Speaker 1: the risk of continued total obstruction. That's the bottom line, 1411 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 1: no matter who's in power. I mean, I don't know 1412 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,720 Speaker 1: how much word clear cut it can get them that. 1413 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Uh you notice he changed his mind because he's not 1414 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 1: he's no longer in power. I mean he it's like, 1415 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, he has absolutely no principles. The only the 1416 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,640 Speaker 1: only thing of interest to him is the objective, and 1417 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,800 Speaker 1: he's willing to basically do anything to get there, even 1418 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,639 Speaker 1: if that means breaking the rules. What do you think 1419 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,400 Speaker 1: is going to happen. I mean, I know you were. 1420 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 1: You were at the d J for a while, Hans, 1421 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 1: And they must be. The d J must be in 1422 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,840 Speaker 1: the middle of a lot of the wrangling over the 1423 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 1: Trump Russia investigation, right the the the Russian UH actions 1424 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,960 Speaker 1: during the election, Trump Russia, alleged Trump Russia collusion, the 1425 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 1: leaking of information to harm Trump UH and the administration. 1426 01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 1: All this stuff that's coming together. You got a House 1427 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:03,559 Speaker 1: investigation in a sen An investigation. Uh. Should people try 1428 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,479 Speaker 1: Is the d o J the most likely to be 1429 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: fair minded agency in this whole process? Or should we 1430 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 1: be worried that there may be some deep state actors 1431 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: within the d o J. Two. Well, I gotta tell you, 1432 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,040 Speaker 1: having worked there, there are large numbers of the career 1433 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 1: civil service lawyers there that I do not trust. Um. 1434 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:31,960 Speaker 1: Anybody who thinks that they're all um uh, nonpartisan, unbiased, 1435 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 1: you know, career civil servants obviously doesn't know what they're 1436 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 1: talking about. Many of the lawyers that I met there 1437 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:45,720 Speaker 1: were some of the most partisan, left wing and biased 1438 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:52,320 Speaker 1: lawyers I've ever run into anywhere. Well, that's that's not reassuring, Hans. Well, no, 1439 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm afraid. I'm afraid it isn't. But that's that's my experience. 1440 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,200 Speaker 1: And I mean, that's that's what you know. John Fund 1441 01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,599 Speaker 1: and I talk about in our book about the Justice 1442 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 1: Department under Eric Cole. What do you make of this, uh, 1443 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 1: this contention that Sally Yates was supposed to testify and 1444 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,000 Speaker 1: then wasn't testifying because the White House was blocking her. 1445 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, can you read between the lines a little 1446 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 1: bit their force and tell us what do you think happened? Well, 1447 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I will tell you that 1448 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 1: say I think Sally Yates is an unethical blowhard. I 1449 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: think quite frankly, remember what she did. She stayed um, 1450 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 1: she stayed in the Justice Department after Trump Trump was inaugurated. 1451 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,200 Speaker 1: She was the top person there, and she came out 1452 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 1: and said, well, the Justice Department isn't going to defend 1453 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 1: President Trump's executive orders on immigration. She she violated her 1454 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 1: ethical duty to defend actions of the president and she 1455 01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,400 Speaker 1: did that purely for political purposes. And what do you 1456 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:05,480 Speaker 1: make of these lawsuits that are currently getting filed against 1457 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: the administration by individuals who claim that they were affected 1458 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,759 Speaker 1: by the travel ban? Are these I mean, I assume 1459 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,679 Speaker 1: that the Hopps you can't drag the president into court personally, 1460 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,639 Speaker 1: But are these lawsuits gonna go in? The New York 1461 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Times was reporting on this um today that there are 1462 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: all these different people that that say that they were 1463 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: that their civil rights were violated by the travel ban. 1464 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,880 Speaker 1: Does this turn into a class action against the government? 1465 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:34,479 Speaker 1: How does this proceed? What's going to happen is one 1466 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 1: or more of these cases is going to end up 1467 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 1: in the U. S. Supreme Court. They're not going to 1468 01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: get there until Neil Gorcich is confirmed. And hopefully what 1469 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,639 Speaker 1: will then happen is the justices will step in and 1470 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,679 Speaker 1: stomp out all these frivolous, merit less lawsuits, because that's 1471 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 1: what they are. Foreign aliens have no uh constitutional right 1472 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 1: to enter into the United States, and the U. S. 1473 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:08,600 Speaker 1: Supreme Court has said that on numerous occasions in prior decisions. 1474 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 1: All these lower court decisions coming to the opposite conclusion 1475 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 1: are basically refusing to follow prior Supreme Court. President, It's 1476 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how this all plays out. 1477 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,080 Speaker 1: Any other areas of lawfare that you expect to be 1478 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,759 Speaker 1: deployed against this administration or that that we haven't touched 1479 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,600 Speaker 1: on yet. Today, it seems like the courts and lawsuits 1480 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: are the main progressive It's like the progressive magin no line, 1481 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully it'll be just like that, and then it 1482 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 1: won't be very effective. But that seems to be what 1483 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: they've got in place. Oh no, that's it. I think 1484 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 1: you should expect to see lawsuits, many of them funded 1485 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 1: by progressive groups George Soros and others, against basically every 1486 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,759 Speaker 1: single thing uh President Trump does, every executive order he signs, 1487 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,800 Speaker 1: every new policy comes in, they're going to sue. Is 1488 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,679 Speaker 1: that going to be effective at slowing down and deterring 1489 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,000 Speaker 1: the administration? Or are the Are the mechanisms in place 1490 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 1: reasonably adept at handling this? Well, you've got an entire 1491 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 1: Justice Department, and if they can finally get all their 1492 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,479 Speaker 1: political appointees in there, then hopefully they'll have some good 1493 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:18,600 Speaker 1: people to fight this litigation. Will it slow down the administration? 1494 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 1: It may, But from what I've seen a Donald Trump, 1495 01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,599 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna deter him from doing what 1496 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 1: he promised voters he was gonna do. Uh during the 1497 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 1: presidential race. Hans von Spakovski is a senior legal fellow 1498 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 1: at the Heritage Foundation, author of the book, Obama's enforcer, 1499 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,679 Speaker 1: Eric Holder's Justice Department hans great to have my friend 1500 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: come back soon, Sure, anytime. Oh my Hillary is back. 1501 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 1: Everybody Hillary, Hillary is back, and that means it's time 1502 01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:02,960 Speaker 1: for a dispatch from the deep state. Americans. You think 1503 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,120 Speaker 1: you voted, you think you are free. You are raw. 1504 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,040 Speaker 1: We control you, We make your reality. The media does 1505 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:17,200 Speaker 1: our bidding. We are the state within a state. We 1506 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:23,960 Speaker 1: will defeat Trump at all costs. Is dispatches from the 1507 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:28,559 Speaker 1: Deep State. Obviously, the outcome of the election wasn't the 1508 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,479 Speaker 1: one I hoped for, worked for, But I will never 1509 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,280 Speaker 1: stop speaking out for common sense benefits that will allow 1510 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,920 Speaker 1: moms and dazz to stay on the job. Where some 1511 01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 1: see a dark vision of carnage, I see a light 1512 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 1: shining on creativity and opportunity. That's right, America. I will 1513 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,320 Speaker 1: never go away. You thought you'd seen the last of me, 1514 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,799 Speaker 1: didn't you. Hillary is never through with you, you silly 1515 01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 1: beer drinkers. You. There are more speeches to give, more 1516 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 1: lies to tell. Forget pant suits. Now I wear super 1517 01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:11,679 Speaker 1: cool leather jackets. They call it boss Grandma style like me, 1518 01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 1: because I'm a boss, your boss. That's right. Hillary is 1519 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,720 Speaker 1: now the Joan jet a third wave feminism. I will 1520 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,240 Speaker 1: travel the country screeching about Trump at every chance. You 1521 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 1: think Obamacare is bad, wait until Hillary care to point. 1522 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh baby, the hillary Bots in the bureaucracy have their 1523 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 1: orders stop Trump at all costs. Get ready to see 1524 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,839 Speaker 1: much more of me because Hillary is gonna haunt your dreams. Okay, 1525 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:46,599 Speaker 1: dispatches over This has been dispatches from the deep state. 1526 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell people. Nobody will believe you we are 1527 01:31:54,120 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 1: in control. Democracy is an illusion. Have a nice day. 1528 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,479 Speaker 1: I mean that that Hillary sound bite there, which obviously 1529 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,480 Speaker 1: got a little bit weirder, that was just that's terrifying stuff. Everybody. 1530 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. She's gonna be around, 1531 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 1: She's gonna keep giving speeches. She is, she was out 1532 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 1: there and that that's a real thing. By the way, 1533 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 1: they're calling her the style now because she wore a 1534 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,920 Speaker 1: blood or a black of black leather jacket. Look, I'm 1535 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,760 Speaker 1: not a fashion critic. I'm not gonna pretend. Uh. My 1536 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 1: girlfriend Ms Molly always says that, you know, I I 1537 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,040 Speaker 1: insist on on wearing the shoes of a man thirty 1538 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,519 Speaker 1: or forty years older than I am. But you know what, 1539 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,240 Speaker 1: they're comfortable. How about that. So I'm not a fashion critic, 1540 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,479 Speaker 1: but I do think it's funny that she she as 1541 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,520 Speaker 1: part of it's very obviously part of the Hillary rebranding 1542 01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,040 Speaker 1: or you know Hillary. I can't even say. It's two 1543 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,439 Speaker 1: point oh. And this is a woman who's had I 1544 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:51,880 Speaker 1: think fourteen or fifteen books ghost written for her at 1545 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,519 Speaker 1: this point, and she's back out in San Francisco speaking 1546 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,160 Speaker 1: about uh that, you know, all things right. I mean, 1547 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 1: she's still wonder what she gets paid a speech, and 1548 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 1: I'll be very curious. I'm sure it's still a lot, 1549 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 1: but not like Bill Clinton half a million dollars from 1550 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,560 Speaker 1: Russia while they want a uranium kind of money, you 1551 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,639 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But here, here's uh, here's more 1552 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,680 Speaker 1: of Hillary coming. She said that she's been wandering the 1553 01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,080 Speaker 1: woods and thinking about life and now she's gonna tell 1554 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 1: us about well everything. Uh. When Congress of the administration 1555 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 1: tried to jam through a bill that would have kicked 1556 01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:32,080 Speaker 1: twenty four million people off their health insurance, defunded planned parenthood, 1557 01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:38,560 Speaker 1: jeopardized access to affordable birth control, deprived people with disabilities, 1558 01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 1: and the elderly and nursing homes of essential care, they 1559 01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 1: were met with a wave of resistance, and when this 1560 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,960 Speaker 1: disastrous bill failed, it was a victory for all Americans. 1561 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,960 Speaker 1: Have I punished you? Have you? Have I punished your 1562 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 1: ear drums? Enough? Yet? Are are you? Are you ready? 1563 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 1: Are you ready to say? Uncle? You give in? I 1564 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 1: won't play any more Hillary audio for you. I promise 1565 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,880 Speaker 1: I can year some of you, Like Buck, I am 1566 01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 1: going to change the dial if you stop. If you 1567 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,679 Speaker 1: don't stop at the Hillary clips, I I have to say, 1568 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 1: there's always I've always had this sense about Hillary that 1569 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 1: there must be there must be a hole in her 1570 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,880 Speaker 1: soul that can only be filled with public attention and 1571 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,840 Speaker 1: progressive adulation. If I were in her situation, I mean 1572 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 1: that I just run unsuccessfully for president for the second time, 1573 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,559 Speaker 1: and had been through all of the stuff that she 1574 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 1: had been through with the investigation, and just managed to 1575 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 1: get away with what otherwise would have been criminal jeopardy. 1576 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,719 Speaker 1: And I should just note, as we were talking about 1577 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,519 Speaker 1: prosecutorial discretion before, the only reason Hillary was not charged 1578 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,800 Speaker 1: for the federal chronme was because of prosecutorial discretion. That 1579 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,439 Speaker 1: is it that that was what the DJ decided. It 1580 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,640 Speaker 1: was not that the statute doesn't say that she violated it. 1581 01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,639 Speaker 1: So you'll notice to bring this all full circle, Hillary, 1582 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:59,120 Speaker 1: prosecutorial discretion, undercover journalists in California targeting plant parent and 1583 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,520 Speaker 1: no prosecutorial this rushing, Okay, But if I were Hillary, 1584 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,760 Speaker 1: I've made over a hundred million dollars, you know. I look, 1585 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,240 Speaker 1: she's got she's got a family, she's got a grandchildren. 1586 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, hang out on Nantucket, have somebody else write 1587 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 1: a book and put your name on it. But really 1588 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,400 Speaker 1: just has to inflict herself upon the American political conversation, 1589 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,639 Speaker 1: which she has already been involved in like thirty years, 1590 01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 1: well more than that. But just she just won't give 1591 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,200 Speaker 1: it up. And I'm not saying she has to. She 1592 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,639 Speaker 1: has every right to go around and screech about whatever 1593 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,680 Speaker 1: she wants to. But it doesn't make me think like 1594 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,640 Speaker 1: this is like it feels like a compulsion. And I 1595 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,280 Speaker 1: certainly don't want to be hearing from her in the 1596 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,559 Speaker 1: months and years ahead. But I gotta tell you something, Team, 1597 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,160 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to to spoil your your dinner 1598 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 1: or your your late lunch here, but um, Hillary is 1599 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna be given a lot of speeches, and the media 1600 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:53,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be given her a lot of airtime. Welcome 1601 01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,639 Speaker 1: back to the Freedom Hut on an island of liberty 1602 01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 1: where you're the party and it's full of fellow page 1603 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:05,720 Speaker 1: gets buck Sexton kicks it off. Let's return to my 1604 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,600 Speaker 1: theory that modern liberalism is a doctrine of hysteria, is 1605 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:14,920 Speaker 1: a set of hysterical policy positions, and there is a 1606 01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:20,240 Speaker 1: that means that there's also a mania against Trump. We 1607 01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,880 Speaker 1: we often talk about, well, Trump certainly talks about and 1608 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:27,040 Speaker 1: we do too, fake news. In fact, there was that 1609 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,640 Speaker 1: CBS piece from last weekend on fake news and the 1610 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 1: impact on the election. Well, as I've said to you, 1611 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:39,439 Speaker 1: at what point does recklessness in reporting, At what point 1612 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 1: can we say that's its own form of fake news? 1613 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: It is definitely false news, but maybe it's fake news. 1614 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: And this is a great example of that. In fact, 1615 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,479 Speaker 1: I will even call it a great moment in fake news. 1616 01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:00,840 Speaker 1: This is great moments in fake news. Oh, let me 1617 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,919 Speaker 1: tell you what I'm talking about here. New York Times 1618 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 1: goes forward with this story. This is the New York Times. 1619 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,000 Speaker 1: This is the biggest. I think it's the biggest. Maybe 1620 01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 1: number two, but I think it's the biggest liberal paper 1621 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,639 Speaker 1: in the country. Right, a huge circulation tons of money, 1622 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 1: probably would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't bailed out 1623 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 1: at one point by Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim. But anyway, 1624 01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:26,800 Speaker 1: New York Times, big paper, right, lots of fancy people 1625 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 1: right for the New York Times. And if you go 1626 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,840 Speaker 1: over to MSNBC or CNN and you have a New 1627 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,600 Speaker 1: York Times byline, there's like a reverence with which you 1628 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:41,000 Speaker 1: are treated at other mere mere plebs rabble hoi POLOI 1629 01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:45,439 Speaker 1: like me. Do not you serve you serve your country, 1630 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,639 Speaker 1: serve your country in a war zone? No, no no, no, no, no, 1631 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 1: New New York Times journalist who sits around that. That's 1632 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,680 Speaker 1: who we need to That's that's the respect that we 1633 01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:57,720 Speaker 1: need to show. Okay, so uh, let's get into this 1634 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 1: specific piece here, the the great the great moment meant 1635 01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 1: ironically in fake news. They run a story here the 1636 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:12,600 Speaker 1: Trump effect of sorry amid Trump Effect, fear of colleges 1637 01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:18,360 Speaker 1: see dip in foreign Applicants. Now, I also want to 1638 01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,439 Speaker 1: add into add into this a subheading here, which is 1639 01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:26,080 Speaker 1: that I believe, given how much money goes into these 1640 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 1: colleges and universities from the taxpayer, given that they rely 1641 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 1: not just on in many cases grants, but also in 1642 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:38,600 Speaker 1: federal taxpayer backstopping of the student loans, which, as we know, 1643 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 1: the student loan bubbles a trillion dollars. Yeah, a trillion 1644 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,680 Speaker 1: with a T everybody, Uh, Given all of that, I 1645 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,559 Speaker 1: am of the impression and this is this is this 1646 01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,879 Speaker 1: is a policy position, policy preference that American citizens students 1647 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:59,280 Speaker 1: should be given preference at American universities. Now does that 1648 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:03,800 Speaker 1: sound medical to you? Because it is radical in the 1649 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 1: sense that there are students, There were students on my 1650 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,559 Speaker 1: floor in college who clearly had an advantage because of 1651 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 1: their uh country of of origin right there there, their 1652 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:21,120 Speaker 1: citizenship non US was considered a very positive factor in 1653 01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,840 Speaker 1: their application process, as in, it's it's better to be 1654 01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,760 Speaker 1: from you know, I don't know, it's better to be 1655 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 1: from Hungary or you know, Madagascar or what whatever than 1656 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:35,679 Speaker 1: to be an American applying to some of these schools 1657 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,360 Speaker 1: because you're you know, you're inherent inherently going to be 1658 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:44,360 Speaker 1: much more rare as an applicant than somebody. But but 1659 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,040 Speaker 1: is that really should that be factored? And I know 1660 01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,760 Speaker 1: this is a digression and I should get back to 1661 01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:50,519 Speaker 1: the task at hand here, But I just wanted to say, 1662 01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,639 Speaker 1: I feel like American citizens should get preference over non 1663 01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:59,400 Speaker 1: citizens in it's especially in state schools, but in general, 1664 01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,080 Speaker 1: that would me be the way. I also think that 1665 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,679 Speaker 1: there's a national security implication to this. When you're talking, 1666 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, people all bucklet's crazy. Really we're training engineers 1667 01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:17,960 Speaker 1: and scientists and mathematicians and uh, I don't know, nuclear physicists, astrophysicists, 1668 01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:23,160 Speaker 1: people with aerospace expertise, and and they go back to 1669 01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:27,439 Speaker 1: foreign countries afterwards. What what what is the what? What's 1670 01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,439 Speaker 1: the idea there? You know? I think think about that 1671 01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,639 Speaker 1: one for a second. I do think there are national 1672 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:36,759 Speaker 1: security implications to uh, the admissions to top US colleges 1673 01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 1: and universities, and given how progressive their admissions committees are, 1674 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure they don't see it that way. But I digress. Okay, 1675 01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,360 Speaker 1: the Trump effect college to see a dip in foreign applicants. 1676 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,240 Speaker 1: The story here The New York Times is running with 1677 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,639 Speaker 1: and they may have since I've gone on air, or 1678 01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,080 Speaker 1: since I was reading about this earlier in the day, 1679 01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,280 Speaker 1: they may have updated the story to reflect this. I'm 1680 01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:59,680 Speaker 1: sure they probably have because they've gotten a lot of 1681 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:04,200 Speaker 1: heat from it. But they're trying to say that Trump 1682 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:08,840 Speaker 1: is so hated around the world and his Muslim band 1683 01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:14,080 Speaker 1: and all these policies are are so jarring and upsetting 1684 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,600 Speaker 1: to international students that they don't want to come to 1685 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 1: school in America. I've seen other stories like this too, oh, 1686 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, and they're usually anecdotal. Here they're using data 1687 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,160 Speaker 1: because we all know that the anecdotal story, which is 1688 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,759 Speaker 1: that that's one of the main ways that the media 1689 01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,400 Speaker 1: plays games about where they come from on a certain issue, 1690 01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,760 Speaker 1: what their perspective is. It's you know, the story will 1691 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,960 Speaker 1: start out, you know, uh, you know, so and so 1692 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,920 Speaker 1: is the valedictorian of her class and and works in 1693 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,080 Speaker 1: a soup kitchen and is the greatest human being ever. 1694 01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:51,600 Speaker 1: But you know she's in the country illegally and immigration 1695 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,200 Speaker 1: authorities wanted to show up for her next clear that 1696 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:59,040 Speaker 1: that obviously has given you a a perspective, a certain 1697 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,120 Speaker 1: context for the story. Worry that's meant to be favorable 1698 01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,000 Speaker 1: to one side or the other, right, we we can 1699 01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,280 Speaker 1: all figure that out. Anecdotal evidence is it's not that 1700 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,519 Speaker 1: it is irrelevant, but it's just a way. You see 1701 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 1: what their hand is. They tip their hand to you 1702 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,760 Speaker 1: by which anecdotes they include in the story. So you've 1703 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,080 Speaker 1: seen people say, oh, well, you know they are a 1704 01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 1: student from wherever, Our student from Cutter doesn't want to 1705 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 1: come to America now because of the Muslim band or something. 1706 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:28,560 Speaker 1: Here they're saying, colleges see a dip in foreign applicants, 1707 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,760 Speaker 1: which that's you know, it's almost half, very substantial data point. 1708 01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,240 Speaker 1: And anybody reading and a lot of people only just 1709 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,559 Speaker 1: as you know, read headlines. You see headlines on Twitter, 1710 01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 1: the headline in the first couple of sentences in a 1711 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,360 Speaker 1: story is by far the most important, not just for 1712 01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,479 Speaker 1: the reader who reads the whole thing, but the most 1713 01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:47,760 Speaker 1: important because a lot of people don't even you know, 1714 01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,759 Speaker 1: we judge books by their covers. A lot of people 1715 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,920 Speaker 1: just read the cover. They just wanted to look good 1716 01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,479 Speaker 1: on the coffee table. I get it, um, But people 1717 01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 1: don't read into the you know, five or six paragraphs 1718 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 1: where they get into more detail. And I to understand 1719 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,240 Speaker 1: this point, like Buck, why is this fake news? Well, 1720 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 1: here's the real the study that they have that they 1721 01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,120 Speaker 1: use for this fort of college to see a dip 1722 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,360 Speaker 1: in foreign applicants. And hat tip to the Wall Street 1723 01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:17,360 Speaker 1: Journal for pointing this out. Says that thirty nine percent, 1724 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:25,919 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, thirty five reported an increase SOT of schools 1725 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:34,200 Speaker 1: got less international applicantstent got more international applicants, and had 1726 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:38,639 Speaker 1: no change. This is a total non story story there. 1727 01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,240 Speaker 1: There is no story here at all unless you completely 1728 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:47,360 Speaker 1: cherry pick the data and you decide that you're just 1729 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,000 Speaker 1: gonna run with this headline because it's why not, it's 1730 01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:54,400 Speaker 1: it's fun too of that, but this then think about 1731 01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,680 Speaker 1: this for a moment. It's so sloppy. It's so and 1732 01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,639 Speaker 1: I don't think the New York Times is I think 1733 01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,479 Speaker 1: there are. The writers are are They're talented writers. I 1734 01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,960 Speaker 1: think their talent very talented propagandists. And I think a 1735 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,439 Speaker 1: lot of them believe very strongly in what they do. 1736 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they' particularly honest about it. I think 1737 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,679 Speaker 1: in some cases they're very dishonest about it. But that's 1738 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,760 Speaker 1: that's my opinion, at least I share my opinions as such. 1739 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:19,760 Speaker 1: They pretend that they're just fact or it's journalism. But 1740 01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:23,400 Speaker 1: how could they be so sloppy? This is not a 1741 01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,559 Speaker 1: sort of kind of maybe error. This is if you 1742 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,360 Speaker 1: look at the study, you see that there's nothing there. 1743 01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:35,800 Speaker 1: There are only two explanations. One explanation is that The 1744 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:39,639 Speaker 1: Times is so dishonest and this is not the only 1745 01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,080 Speaker 1: By the way, the Washington Post with its Russia fake 1746 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,360 Speaker 1: news stories about the sites, they had to you know, 1747 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 1: it was based on information that was unverified, the source 1748 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,400 Speaker 1: was sketchy, and they had to retract it. And you know, 1749 01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,000 Speaker 1: this is not the first time we've we've seen Oh 1750 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,920 Speaker 1: that also the Russians getting into a Vermont utility company 1751 01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 1: where the electric company or something like that. I mean, 1752 01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,240 Speaker 1: the these are major stories that they ran with that 1753 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,040 Speaker 1: they had to just completely either retract or correct the 1754 01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,879 Speaker 1: central premise of which is really the same as the attraction. 1755 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,639 Speaker 1: They just don't call it our attraction. How do they 1756 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,720 Speaker 1: how do they make such a sloppy error? How do 1757 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:16,679 Speaker 1: they make a mistake like this? Uh? There, As I said, 1758 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,000 Speaker 1: there are two ways that you can view it. You 1759 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,920 Speaker 1: can say on the one hand that they knew that 1760 01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 1: this was bogus, but they wanted to go with it 1761 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,599 Speaker 1: because it adds to the narrative that is faith. Remember, 1762 01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,080 Speaker 1: their their readership likes that narrative. We read this and 1763 01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:36,880 Speaker 1: go why would they do this? They're they're antagonizing people 1764 01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:44,120 Speaker 1: with falsehoods. But for their readership, the Times readership, it 1765 01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,400 Speaker 1: thinks that anything that's anti Trump is great. Anything that 1766 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,040 Speaker 1: is another data point to bring up at a cocktail party. Hello, 1767 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,200 Speaker 1: did you read that thing about the foreigners who won't 1768 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 1: come to America for college anymore because of Trump? Oh? 1769 01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:03,240 Speaker 1: So vile. Their audience likes to read this, and so 1770 01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:06,240 Speaker 1: they go out there with the story. And by the way, 1771 01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,839 Speaker 1: it also has a propaganda effect that has led lingers 1772 01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,760 Speaker 1: that last because not everyone will see any retraction. They'll 1773 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,040 Speaker 1: just see the initial headline, or they won't see the 1774 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,160 Speaker 1: update to the story. They'll just see what it was 1775 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:21,559 Speaker 1: initially trotted out as. So that's one option is that 1776 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:23,240 Speaker 1: it is in and then it would be by the way, 1777 01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 1: it would be fake news. That's the that is a 1778 01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,479 Speaker 1: completely accurate If they are running with a story that 1779 01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,160 Speaker 1: is a non story because they just picked out one 1780 01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,240 Speaker 1: day to point and ignore all of the others, that 1781 01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:42,040 Speaker 1: is obviously fake news. And by anyone's definition. The other 1782 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,160 Speaker 1: option that I have to tell you, I think is 1783 01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:50,679 Speaker 1: more likely is that they are sloppy. They are sloppy 1784 01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:56,240 Speaker 1: with this because this this then becomes an issue of 1785 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,000 Speaker 1: the modern liberalism as a doctrin of hysteria because they 1786 01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,960 Speaker 1: are hystero call about how bad Trump is and it 1787 01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,280 Speaker 1: is affecting their judgment. Even a place like the New 1788 01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,040 Speaker 1: York Times that has a huge subscriber base and I 1789 01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:10,960 Speaker 1: know it's a lot of money going into that place 1790 01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,879 Speaker 1: and has a big reputation at least to liberals to uphold. 1791 01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:20,040 Speaker 1: They are overcome with their hatred for this administration and 1792 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:26,000 Speaker 1: so it makes them sloppy. But isn't that also then 1793 01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,639 Speaker 1: a moment where you could say, if it's not fake news, 1794 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,560 Speaker 1: it's at least false news, and this was certainly false news. 1795 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,280 Speaker 1: So those are the options, and you know, this won't get. 1796 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 1: This won't get you won't have a lot of the 1797 01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,280 Speaker 1: people in media whose job it is to correct other 1798 01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,519 Speaker 1: people in media, or you know, the media reporters who 1799 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,760 Speaker 1: report of other media reporters. Uh, they're not going to 1800 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,600 Speaker 1: see this as anything other than just, uh, you know, 1801 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,640 Speaker 1: a glitch, a little situation that came up, and you 1802 01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:54,040 Speaker 1: know who really cares. But it's yet another data point 1803 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,679 Speaker 1: that we see that it's just an inexcusable error unless 1804 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:03,840 Speaker 1: it's inte mentional propagandum and to damage the administration doesn't 1805 01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:05,800 Speaker 1: matter that it's not true because by the time they 1806 01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,839 Speaker 1: correct it, they've already gotten the impact of the attack, 1807 01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:13,200 Speaker 1: so it's of net benefit to their side. Or they 1808 01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,799 Speaker 1: are so full of hatred for Trump that they are 1809 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:24,200 Speaker 1: detached from their journalistic practices and they're willing to sacrifice 1810 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:27,920 Speaker 1: their own integrity one way or the other in this process. 1811 01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,920 Speaker 1: There's really not a third option. It's just those two. 1812 01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,280 Speaker 1: So I think this is fake news. Just a question 1813 01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:46,920 Speaker 1: why it's fake news? Where does it come from? I 1814 01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,519 Speaker 1: want to get into some of the fights over free 1815 01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:54,880 Speaker 1: speech that have been happening in on college campuses in 1816 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,479 Speaker 1: recent days. There have been a whole bunch of stories, 1817 01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,360 Speaker 1: including one up in Canada that I've been men ng 1818 01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:05,120 Speaker 1: on the show UM earlier in the Uh Wow, I 1819 01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,080 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I'm watching this right as I'm on 1820 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,200 Speaker 1: air with you. I'm I'm watching this t I'm sorry 1821 01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:14,040 Speaker 1: to change the subject in mid sentence here, but this 1822 01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,639 Speaker 1: t s a pat down. I had not seen this before, 1823 01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:23,360 Speaker 1: and I you know, Wow, Um, we we gotta deal 1824 01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:27,639 Speaker 1: with this. This is completely preposterous. I'm seeing this. This 1825 01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:32,519 Speaker 1: video they just ran it on on Fox of a 1826 01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,639 Speaker 1: of a kid, a young kid was being just really 1827 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:42,280 Speaker 1: padded given all of this inspection, physical inspection. You know, 1828 01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:45,320 Speaker 1: it's amazing to me we we allow the federal government 1829 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,400 Speaker 1: to do that to us and to our children, apparently 1830 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:54,000 Speaker 1: and yet uh, I don't know anyway, I just sorry, 1831 01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:55,920 Speaker 1: I saw that and it it upset me as I 1832 01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,840 Speaker 1: was on air. I don't know. We need to stop 1833 01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,160 Speaker 1: the nonsense about well just to make we don't want 1834 01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,400 Speaker 1: anyone to feel like they're being singled out that actually 1835 01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,280 Speaker 1: might be a threat. So let's let's pat down a 1836 01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,439 Speaker 1: bunch of ten year old kids with the T s A. 1837 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,640 Speaker 1: It's insane. All right, Back to college stuff. Sorry about that. 1838 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:15,960 Speaker 1: Um So, Pierce College is one of these places where 1839 01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:20,760 Speaker 1: they've designated a free speech zone. This is a fascinating 1840 01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,679 Speaker 1: circumstance colleges. You would think the entirety of a college 1841 01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:28,240 Speaker 1: should be a free speech zone. Um but in fact, 1842 01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:33,719 Speaker 1: now we we've gone from uh speech codes that limit 1843 01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:38,120 Speaker 1: what you can say, you know, just officially designating certain 1844 01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,920 Speaker 1: parts of a college campus as places where you can 1845 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:45,439 Speaker 1: say stuff at all. Uh Pierce College, which I have 1846 01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,680 Speaker 1: to admit i've never heard of before. I'm sure it's 1847 01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:51,360 Speaker 1: a lovely place. How a student that was barred from 1848 01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:53,559 Speaker 1: handing out This is on the Daily News and had 1849 01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 1: Tip Drudge for this one. UH barred from handing out 1850 01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,080 Speaker 1: copies of the U S Constitution on campus because he 1851 01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,600 Speaker 1: was not He was not, in fact, in the colleges 1852 01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:09,240 Speaker 1: designated free speech zone. You see. I was under this, 1853 01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,080 Speaker 1: this foolish impression that the entirety of the college campus 1854 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,280 Speaker 1: would be a free speech zone, and that colleges would 1855 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,479 Speaker 1: be governed by the First Amendment, both in principle and 1856 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:20,360 Speaker 1: as a matter of law. But now I have to 1857 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:24,439 Speaker 1: say that that's just not true anymore. And I wish 1858 01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:28,160 Speaker 1: that we could we could say that this is something 1859 01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:32,680 Speaker 1: that would only affect the campuses. But if you go 1860 01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:36,240 Speaker 1: back and those of you who have seen UH, the 1861 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:40,879 Speaker 1: movie PCU, which is I highly recommend, is among Jeremy 1862 01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:45,760 Speaker 1: Pippins's finest works. PCU is very entertaining. It's probably now 1863 01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some things in it that would be 1864 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:50,479 Speaker 1: considered you know, I don't know, anything that was funny 1865 01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,679 Speaker 1: in the nineties is now at risk of of being 1866 01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:56,519 Speaker 1: too edgy or raunchy or something. I mean, it's too 1867 01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:00,280 Speaker 1: offensive now, you know. But PCU is a movie that 1868 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:02,360 Speaker 1: I think is pretty is pretty funny, and it deals 1869 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,640 Speaker 1: with this issue. But it used to be that we 1870 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:08,519 Speaker 1: would see this stuff on campuses and the thought was, well, 1871 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:12,360 Speaker 1: this is the this is the distillation of crazy, right, 1872 01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:16,880 Speaker 1: this is the progressive insanity is allowed to run wild 1873 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,320 Speaker 1: on campus in a way that it can't in the 1874 01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 1: broader society and in a way that doesn't really happen 1875 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:26,840 Speaker 1: in day to day America. And this was political correctness 1876 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,640 Speaker 1: as a term really came into use what in the 1877 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:33,960 Speaker 1: eighties and in the nineties, And that may have been true, 1878 01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:40,479 Speaker 1: then this far left progressive lunacy was largely not entirely, 1879 01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:46,679 Speaker 1: but largely confined two so funny actually, uh anyway, side 1880 01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:48,559 Speaker 1: side not. I just I see that the headloine on 1881 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,519 Speaker 1: Fox Now is PC madness. I'm like, no, no, I 1882 01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 1: swear we didn't coordinate this at all. That they're just 1883 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,880 Speaker 1: talking about an email on the on Fox News and 1884 01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:57,519 Speaker 1: the Monitor and here I can't I can't hear them. 1885 01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:59,559 Speaker 1: But I saw a PC madness. I'm like, wait, what 1886 01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:04,040 Speaker 1: they're doing that too? Um? But it was confined to 1887 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,320 Speaker 1: the campuses. Then. What's happened, though, is that a generation 1888 01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:12,240 Speaker 1: of people who were in college and part of that 1889 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:16,320 Speaker 1: indoctrination in the nineties, and I just I'm just a 1890 01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:17,840 Speaker 1: little too young for that to be the case with me. 1891 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,439 Speaker 1: But it's still true obviously for my generation. But people 1892 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:23,280 Speaker 1: that are ten fifteen years older than me, who are 1893 01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:27,040 Speaker 1: in the age cohort now where they're running stuff. They 1894 01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:31,559 Speaker 1: have made this ideology from the campus, the governing ideology 1895 01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:36,200 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. The campus laboratory of crazy has 1896 01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:39,839 Speaker 1: you know, the the Bunsen burners and the beakers have shattered, 1897 01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:43,120 Speaker 1: and the and the the the the monster is now 1898 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:44,760 Speaker 1: out of the lab. I mean, it's out there in 1899 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,160 Speaker 1: broader society. And we see this now on campus getting 1900 01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,000 Speaker 1: even crazier, where it's not just about prohibiting certain speech, 1901 01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:55,240 Speaker 1: it's about becoming violent in response to speech. Anyway, I've 1902 01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,080 Speaker 1: just I'm really setting up more of this discussion later 1903 01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,320 Speaker 1: on the week. We'll talk about some examples of the 1904 01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,840 Speaker 1: campus madness, because it's a window into the progressive mind 1905 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:07,519 Speaker 1: and the Democratic Party's mind too, not just college kids. Uh. 1906 01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,320 Speaker 1: Please download the show, go on I Heart radio to 1907 01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,400 Speaker 1: listen on demand, and share it posted on your Facebook 1908 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:16,080 Speaker 1: page if you don't mind on iTunes. Subscribe to Buck 1909 01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:19,679 Speaker 1: Sexton with America Now see you all tomorrow, looking forward 1910 01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,040 Speaker 1: to it as always, Shield time