1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break Weekend, our global look ahead 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: of the top stories of the coming week from our 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: day Break anchors all around the world, and just ahead 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: on the program, here come to those US inflation numbers. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm John Tucker in New York. I'm killing head get 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: in London, where we're looking at the next major climate 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: summit called twenty seven in Egypt. I'm Brian Curtis in 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: Hong Kong. We look at COVID zero in China, locking 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: down a factory of two hundred thousand workers making iPhones. 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: I'm Any Morris in Washington. We're gaging the turnout in 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: the last minute scramble before the mid turns. That's all 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend on Bloomberg eleven three 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: on New York, Bloomberg one, Washington d C, Bloomberg one 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: oh six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine sixties, San Francisco d 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: A B Digital Radio, London, Sirius XM one nineteen and 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: around the world on Bloomberg Radio dot com and via 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app. Him nobody, I'm John Scer Let's 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: start today's program with the inflation. Households are watching the 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Feds certainly watching it, and we're tracking developments for you 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: right here on the Bloomberg Radio Studio with Boomberg Global 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Economics and Policy Editor Michael McKee. You have inflation in 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: your title that keeps getting longer. Um, So I guess 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about c p I that prints coming out. 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: That that's become sort of like the mother of all 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: economic indicators. Lately, it was always the Job's Report, and 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: now it's the CPI again. Of course, Um, that depends 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: on how old your mother is, because back in the 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Paul Vulgar day, don't talk about my Back in the 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Paul Vulgar days, the CPI was important as well. And 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: then we had very very low inflation for a very 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: very long time, and then all of a sudden we've 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: got big inflation again. So people care about this number. 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: We used to talk about a word transitory, and now 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about a word. I think it's sticky. Has 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: replaced transitory, right about them retired the word transitory. Uh, sticky. 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Price inflation has been around for a long time, and 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: it's basically a concept that prices change very slowly. The 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: old example that they would use in economic school is 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: restaurants would be reluctant to change their prices because they 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: would have to print all new menus and that would 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: be an expense. But of course, nowadays restaurants give you 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: message on your phone your phone, so I don't know 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: if that's a good example anymore. But there are things 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: that like that that take a while to adjust, and 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: that's the idea of sticky price inflation. And some of 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: those things have have not moved as much as the 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: Fed would like. That's the question for uh next week's 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: uh CBI report is do we see some movement in 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: any of the areas that the Fed has been waiting for. 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: What's the breakdown? Well, prices won't come down, probably, but 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: the whole point of the inflation numbers is the rate 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: of change. The rate of increases is what the Fed 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: look looks at in their arget is a two annual 54 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: rate of increase. In these things, Um, you don't get 55 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: prices going down except in crises situations. We saw some 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: prices fall at the beginning of the pandemic, and then 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: they went back up because there were shortages. What we're 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: looking for here is a decline in the month to 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: month increases. When you look at the year over year 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: because of base effects and the fact that inflation was 61 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: higher last year. Uh, you would see declines. But what 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: the Fed wants to see is that right now we're 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: seeing inflation slowing down, and for that they're looking at 64 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: things that have had a big impact on it. Um. Obviously, 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: energy over the recent months has has come down. Gasoline 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: prices have come down. That's helped the CPI. But now 67 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: the basic premises it's for the month of October it 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: went up, so that should add. But things like medical 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: care as the COVID crisis has fallen out of the 70 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: public consciousness, used car prices on the wholesale level have 71 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: been falling significantly because suddenly there are cars available and 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: so that should change. Airfares they think may go down, 73 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Hotel room prices may go down. So there are areas 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: that had not moved as much as the Fed thought 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: they would. That people are expecting to see some progress 76 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: on not huge, but some progress. Okay. So the thinking 77 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: is with the Central Bank, short term pain i e. 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Higher interest rates will lead to longer term gains. Right, 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: that's I mean, how much pain do I have to endure? Well, 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: that depends on a lot of things that are out 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: of your control, UM, like you know what you're gonna 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: pay at the gas pump and what what you're going 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: to have to pay for, um, things that you buy 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: in the store that maybe suffering from supply chain problems. 85 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Supply chains are getting better, so we should see goods 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: prices continue to drop. We're still seeing services prices rise 87 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: with the higher rates. Are are they having an impact 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: that we can see, Well, it depends on the category. 89 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: Certainly they're having an impact on real estate and housing. 90 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Mortgage rates have gone way up and new home sales 91 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: and existing home sales have gone way way down. Mortgage 92 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Bankers Association Mortgage Activity index is at a level that 93 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: last reached, so we're seeing a definite impact there. It's 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see what happens with other 95 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: inflation sensitive things like car purchases, UH and UM, whether 96 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: or not people continue to use credit cards as much 97 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 1: as if they have adjustable rate credit cards. We're seeing 98 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: some slowing in the overall economy in terms of retail sales. 99 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: People still have a lot of money, but they're not 100 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: spending as much of it UH as as they so 101 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing some movement on the margins was the way 102 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: that Powell put it this last week. So what's the 103 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: expectation from the consumer prices index that we're gonna be 104 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: going well? On a month over month basis. Economists think 105 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna go up by seven tenths of a percent 106 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: in the month of October, which would bring the year 107 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: over year rate to eight percent, a tick down from 108 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: last month. But that's base effects. Now, the Fed's gonna 109 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: be looking at the core and that should increase by 110 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: five tenths which is lower than the prior month. And 111 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: six point six percent is the year over year estimate 112 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: for the core rate, which would be the same as 113 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: the prior month. Any little bit would be seen as progress. 114 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: The real concern for the markets is if we get 115 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: a surprise upward. Mike, always a pleasure, Bloomberg's Michael McKee 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: And just to hand on Bloomberg Daybreak weekend, the United 117 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: Nations COP twenty seven Climate Summit in Egypt. On John, 118 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: this is Broomber. This is Bloomberg Day Break weekend, our 119 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: global looking ahead at the top stories for investors in 120 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: the coming week. I'm John Tucker in New York. Up 121 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: later in the program, Taiwan and it's tricky business relationship 122 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: with China. But first world leaders, activists, diplomats and throngs 123 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: of journalists gathering for the United Nations COP twenty seven 124 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: Climate Summit in Egypt. And for more, let's say to London, 125 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: bring in Bloomberg Daybreak, euro Bagger Caroline Hecker John COP 126 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven takes place in Chamel shak amid an energy 127 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: crisis and global economic upheaval that's testing the commitment of 128 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: many countries to cutting emissions. The world is still not 129 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: on track to keep global temperature rises below one and 130 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: a half degree celsius. This, of course, is seen as 131 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: a key threshold for averting catastrophic climate change. For more, 132 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm joined by Bloomberg Green in a senior climate reporter, 133 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: Actual Ratty and Bloomberg Green reporter Lower Milan in Madrid. 134 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: Lor I want to start with you, what is the 135 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: mood like? Well, I would say that based on the 136 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: conversations that both actually and I have had with people 137 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: attending over the last few days, Um, everyone's expectations are 138 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: really high. Um. You can think that COP meetings happen 139 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: every year and so many people go there, Over forty 140 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: five thousand registered participants UM for this one, according to 141 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: the Egyptian presidency, and everyone wants to um do the 142 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: best they can. They know the eyes of the world 143 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: will be on them for these two weeks, that climate 144 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: issues will be on top of the agenda, on the 145 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: news everywhere for these two weeks, and they just want 146 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that they do the best they can. Yeah. 147 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: And also because the consequences of climate change are becoming 148 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: so apparent. Actually, what is the latest research on trying 149 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to keep global warming in check? It's a two step process. Essentially, 150 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: if we go back seven years, the world was on 151 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,479 Speaker 1: track for catastrophic climate change and now it isn't quite 152 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: that bad. But even what we have today, which is 153 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: three degree celsius farming, not one and a half degree 154 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: celsius farming, that is still in sight. And the world 155 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: is not cutting emissions fast enough. So we had two reports, 156 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: one from the United Nations and one from the International 157 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Energy Agency saying two things that seem opposite, but they 158 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: are actually quite aligned, which is we're not making enough progress, 159 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: but we are making some progress, and that we might 160 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: be able to speak emissions UH and fossil fuel use 161 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: within this decade. A lot more just needs to be 162 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: done though, Okay, and this of course because energy security 163 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: has has become so much more important and central because 164 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: of Russia's warren in Ukraine. Has that concern around energy 165 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: security scuppered some progress on climates, you know, given the 166 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: energy crisis in Europe, it certainly has. In the short term, 167 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, countries are turning to whatever fields they can 168 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: get access to if it means burning more cold, they are, 169 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: but scoping long term goals. That hasn't happened. If you've 170 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: seen what has happened in the US with the US 171 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: passing a climate bill called the Inflation Reduction Act, or 172 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Europe which is doubling down on deploying more renewables while 173 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: legislating it's green deal. Those are clear actions that if 174 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: the world wants energy security and wants to act on 175 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: climate change, it needs to double down on green energy. 176 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: But in the short term, because building out green energy 177 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: takes a while, people are turning to more fossil fields 178 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and that's going to reverse some of the progress made 179 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: so far. Pakistan and that the awful monsoons that have 180 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: killed hundreds of people, um, you know, and and submerged 181 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: the country underwater. I mean This is perhaps one of 182 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: the clearest examples of the sort of devastation from changing 183 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: weather and climate. Do you think there's going to be 184 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: a lot more focused in on this idea of loss 185 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: and damage on demands from countries that are being affected 186 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: now by climate change is one group in the G 187 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: seventy seven, but there are you know, demands for richer 188 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: countries to pay more, to support more. Definitely, as we 189 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: think that the so called issue of loss and namit 190 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: will be the central theme and in this year's cop 191 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: one of the reasons is because this is a COP 192 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: that's being held in Africa for the first time in 193 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: a few years, so obviously the presidency of every cop 194 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: um holds certain power over which issues it wants to prioritize. 195 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: But also because obviously of the devastating floods in Pakistan 196 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: earlier this year, but also another developing nations who which 197 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: are bearing the costs of climate change even though they 198 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: contributed very little to eat in comparison to developed nations. 199 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: So we've just seen, for example, devastating floods in Nigeria 200 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: as well, and we can expect developing nations to demand 201 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: reach countries to pay or to come up with a 202 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: system of funding that can help them recover when these 203 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: extreme weather events happen. Yeah, and that's for the sort 204 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: of developing countries. Actually. I think we had a conversation 205 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: when the UK hosted the last COP in Glasgow. Of course, 206 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: just the latest report though from the Independent Climate Change 207 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: Committee here in the UK for two has kind of 208 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: underlined the issues for Britain itself on how committed we 209 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: are and there is, you know, still some doubt about 210 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: how committed Britain is in some ways to decarbonization. What 211 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: do you think of that, the pressure that the UK 212 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: is this as a G seven country. Yeah, that's certainly 213 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: one topic that's come up, especially through the leadership contests 214 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: that have happened in the Conservative Party. Um, and we 215 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: have heard from certain wings of the Conservative Party are 216 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: pushback against climate policies. But where things stand, the UK 217 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: still leads among the G seven countries on how much 218 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: emissions it has cut since nine more than forty UM 219 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: and the UK has met its climate goals until twenty two. 220 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: So this year it will be the third UH carbon 221 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: budget as they are called here in the UK, and 222 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: the UK will have met it. But you are right 223 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: that it is going off track, especially this year. Renewable's 224 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: energy investments have gone down. The UK is in dire 225 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: straits with its financial situation, having to give a lot 226 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: of money to energy companies to try and keep prices 227 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: of energy low for consumers, and so questions are being asked. 228 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: But as you as you can see commitment from the 229 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: UK government. If it ravers, there is a lot of 230 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: backlash and that causes governments to change their mind. So 231 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: it richis and that wasn't going to come to COP 232 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: now he is. Okay, Good luck to both of you. 233 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: I hope you'll join us next week on Bloomberg Radio 234 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: to tell us more. That is our Bloomberg Green Senior 235 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: Climate Reporter actual at Ratti and from Madrid Bloomberg Green 236 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Reporter at Laura Milan. Thank you so much for your 237 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: time taking us through what to expect from COP twenty 238 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: seven and Climate summit in Egypt. I'm Caroline hepget here 239 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: in London. You can catch us every weekday morning for 240 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: full coverage of COP twenty seven and so much more 241 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Daybreak. 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This is 251 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg day Break Weekend, John Tucker in New York with 252 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: your global look aheathly top stories for investors in the 253 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: coming week. Time one businesses are facing more challenges in 254 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: China for more, Let's go to Hong Kong and Bloomberg 255 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Daybreak Asia host Brian Curtis. John not much warning on this, 256 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: but China lockdown the world's largest iPhone factory this past week. 257 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: It's a whole high complex in Chung Show, China, and 258 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: it's probably the last thing that Apple needed, never mind 259 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: hone high or Fox Con. It brings in so many 260 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: issues China's COVID zero policies, Apple's efforts to diversify production, 261 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: other big companies and their plans as well, and also 262 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: the changing nature of supply chains, the ever complex relationship 263 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: that Taiwan companies have operating in mainland China, as well 264 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: as Taiwan China relations and US China relations. It's a big, 265 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: big story. Joining us now to discuss this is Samson. 266 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Ellis Bloomberg's type a bureau chief. He's embedded with Green 267 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: at the moment, and he's right here in our Hong 268 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Kong studios with us. Sam, thanks very much for coming in. 269 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: So we've we've got the local authorities. They're sterilizing the 270 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: Fox Con campus and there have been mass walkouts. So 271 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: it's a it's a complicated moving story as we speak, 272 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: but it's a it's a kind of contained bubble, right 273 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: it is, you know, and as you've laid out very well, 274 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's been a bit of a week to 275 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: forget for for Hunghai or fox Con, and and all 276 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: of this really stems from China's strict adherence to this 277 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: COVID zero policy, where you know, as soon as you 278 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: get a few cases of COVID the local authorities come 279 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: in and locked down a whole area, and when that 280 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: area happens to be where Nghai's largest iPhone plant is 281 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: in jung Gaol, then that obviously causes problems and creates 282 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: ripples that extends to Cupatina, right, and people want to 283 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: escape the restrictions, so some of them just escape and 284 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: actually walk out of there. Yeah, and the Chinese social 285 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: media has been a wash with videos of hundreds of 286 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: not thousands of people, young people walking down roads and highways, 287 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: pushing large suitcases, walking, you know, sometimes tens of miles 288 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: home to escape the impending lockdown, or at least escaping 289 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, the increasingly worst conditions there. You know, they're 290 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: worried about getting COVID themselves. In the days preceding the lockdown, 291 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was it became increasingly difficult to get 292 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: food and basic supplies into the manufacturing complex, and so 293 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: some people were having to subsist on just bread for 294 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: for several days. So that's why people are just fleeing 295 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: these plants right now. And what do we know about 296 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: the impact on production? Fox con says they are going 297 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: to keep manufacturing. It's a question of like how much 298 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: it does lower production by and you know it couldn't 299 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: really couldn't come at the worst time. You know, this 300 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: is the ramp up ahead of the holiday season, which 301 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: is obviously peak sales season four things like your iPhones, 302 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: and so Fox can't a really trying hard to contain this. 303 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: They're they're offering to increase people's salaries by up to 304 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: thirty six percent to persuade them to stay on the 305 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: production lines and stop them from you know, walking out. 306 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a a sort of lofty look 307 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: at things, and and let me ask you that if 308 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: you if you take COVID zero parlor sees and the 309 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: changes that we saw coming out of the Party Congress, 310 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: the further emphasis on national security and perhaps as somewhat 311 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: of a small lessoning on pure economic interests, is two 312 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: the year that China semi loses the West. Yeah, that's 313 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: an interesting question. I think, you know, the economies are 314 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: so bound to each other, so interconnected. People are not 315 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: going to stop buying iPhones all the various other gadgets 316 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: that are largely manufactured in China. But you know, you 317 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: are certainly going to see companies reducing their reliance on China. 318 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: There's definitely been this realization that maybe you know the 319 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: risk of over concentration in China, and so while you 320 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: might not see companies directly pull out of China, I 321 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: think what you definitely are going to see and the 322 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: numbers do back this up certainly from Taiwanese investment, you know, 323 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: and the taime Andese brands and manufactured factors are often 324 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: the operators of the plants in China. For example, is 325 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: that much less new Capex is going into China. I 326 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: think a lot of people would be interested in how 327 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: ordinary people in Taiwan. You live in Taiwan, how ordinary 328 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: people feel about these tensions with China. Taiwan has been 329 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: facing the threat of invasion by China for the last 330 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: seventy plus years, so they're very, very used to living 331 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: with this threat. I think also largely the feeling is 332 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: that you know an invasion is not certainly not imminent, 333 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: and China does also still hold out hope of being 334 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: able to conduct this peacefully. Sam thanks very much for 335 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: joining us and for sharing your insights with us. Samson 336 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Ellis Bloomberg's Taibe Bureau achieve is with us here in 337 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: our Hong Kong studios. I'm Brian Curtis in Hong Kong 338 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: along with Doug Prisner. You can catch us every weekday 339 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, beginning at six am in Hong 340 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: Kong and six pm on Wall Street. John Brian, thanks 341 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot just ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak weekend. A lot 342 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: hanging on this coming week's US mid term elections. I'm 343 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: John Tucker's this is this is Bloomberg Daybreak weekend, our 344 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: global look ahead at the top stories for investors in 345 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: the coming week. I'm John Tucker in New York O. 346 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: Candid It's are scrambling to cover as much ground as 347 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: possible ahead of Tuesday's mid terms, and some key races 348 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: are close, some are just hard to predict. And for 349 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: a look at what to expect. Let's head to our 350 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: Bloomberg ninety nine one newsroom in Washington and Amy Morris. Amy, 351 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, John, big steaks for Democrats and 352 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: Republicans in these mid terms. Joining me now to talk 353 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: about it all. White House reporter Jordan Fabian Jordan, thanks 354 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: for taking the time with us, Thanks for having me on, Amy. 355 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: What has the White House and perhaps maybe the President 356 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: cancerned at this point? Well, they're certainly concerned about the 357 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: possibility that Democrats could lose control of one or both 358 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: chambers of Congress. That would essentially spell the end for 359 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: their policy agenda. And so President Biden is going around 360 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: the country two different states to try and campaign and 361 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: save some of these jobs and also gubernatorial candidates trying 362 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: to save some statehouses as well. But if you look 363 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: at where he's going, he's going to New York, New Mexico, California. 364 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: These are states that are traditionally blue states. So that 365 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: shows you the kind of trouble that Democrats are in 366 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: that he's having to go to these uh places that 367 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: were thought to be safe in order to try and 368 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: salvage key lawmakers. And it's not just that they all 369 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: see their policy fall by the wayside um. They're also 370 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: they've got to be concerned that they're gonna see sort 371 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: of a little tit for tat when it comes to 372 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: investigations and subpoenas that sort of thing. Certainly, they're they're 373 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: very well aware of the fact that if Republicans gained 374 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: control of Congress, not only will there be investigations, but 375 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: there could be also impeachment proceedings brought against Joe Biden perhaps, 376 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: but also key cabinet secretaries like a Trinity General General 377 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland or the Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro my Orchis. 378 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: So they're preparing for all those possibilities. But I'm told 379 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: by senior White House officials and just the course of 380 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: talking folks this week, that they think that there's a 381 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: strong possibility these kind of investigations could backfire on Republicans 382 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: and that it will be viewed as overreach, especially if 383 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: they go after Hunter Biden and some sensitive subjects like that. 384 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: So that would be something to watch next year if 385 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: Republicans do indeed take control in Jordan. The White House 386 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: is saying now it supports the Fed's rate hikes, it's 387 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: still painful for people to see their mortgage rates go up, 388 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: things of that nature, while at the same time, the 389 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: One House says it is trying to fight back against inflation. 390 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: Let's hear more now, White House Press Secretary Korean Jean Pierre. 391 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: The FED is is independent. It's an independent agency, and 392 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: we believe the President believes that it has uh the 393 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: it has the best monetary policies to address inflation. Now, 394 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Jean Pierre did take it a step further, stable and 395 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: steady growth with lower inflation. This is the kind of 396 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: economy that delivers for working families, and that's how we 397 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: see the work of the of the Fed. So Jordan 398 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: is being on the side of rising rates going to 399 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: wind up being a liability for the president even though 400 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: he's fighting inflation. How does he balance that. It's a 401 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: really it's a really tough balance to strike. And look, 402 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: if there is a recession at the end of this, Uh, yeah, 403 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: there'll be a political fallout for for the President and 404 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: the Democrats. And you're seeing more and more Democratic lawmakers 405 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: actually raised concern about the size and scope of these 406 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: interest rate hikes. At first, there was Elizabeth Warren, but 407 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: you're seeing other Democratic senators like John hickyl Looper from 408 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: Colorado come out and say, hold on a second, there 409 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: could be some real fall out for the economy. But 410 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: that being said, the White House has been very careful 411 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: to say that the Fed is independent. We're not going 412 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: to ask them to slow the pace of right hikes 413 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: or really do anything for that matter, that we want 414 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: them to do. We're gonna let them do what they 415 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: think is best to try and whip inflation and right now, 416 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: the FETE is signal that they're going to continue with 417 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: this course of rate hikes, possibly you know, next month 418 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: and in the future. And that's really sucked all the 419 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: air out of the room. I mean, it wasn't really 420 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: that long ago when the big concern was abortion access 421 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: and and it seemed to really give Democrats something of 422 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: a boost, and it just evaporated, that's right. And you know, 423 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: you look at it and you think, maybe if this 424 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: the court really came out closer to the election, that 425 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: that boom for Democrats would have been better time for them. 426 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess enthusiasm or interest in that issue, uh, 427 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: seemed to wane as concerns about the economy really have 428 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: continued and grown in voters. So if you look at 429 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: polls from around the summer, there are actually a couple 430 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: of polls that that said abortion access and uh, you know, 431 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: threats to democracy were right up there with the economy, 432 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: which you typically don't seat that's usually the number one 433 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: issue for voters, but now those of ebbed and the 434 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: economy is front of mind, and now the president is 435 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: sort of pivoting on that as well, warning of economic 436 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: chaos if Republicans do sweep the midterms. New Jersey Governor 437 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: Phil Murphy told us on Balance of Power this past 438 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: week that a weird economy is actually making things harder 439 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: for Democrats. It's a weird economy where we have our 440 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: lowest unemployment rate ever below the national average. Our revenues 441 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: as at the state level continue to be solid, We've 442 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: been upgraded by credit rating agencies would pay debt out. 443 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: And yet at the same time, there's enormous pain at 444 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: that kitchen table, largely due to affordability. So how do 445 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: they balance that? You know, they haven't really figured it 446 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: out yet. Um. And you know, part of the problem 447 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: is that if you look at Biden's record over the 448 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: first couple of years, he's actually gotten a lot done. 449 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: He's gotten the Infrastructure Bill, He's got that Inflation Induction Act, 450 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: which is really you know, a climate and prescription and 451 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: drug health bill. Uh. He's got this is an agenda 452 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: if you look at it would be great for any president. 453 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: But what they've struggled with is getting people to understand 454 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: or explaining to people how that's going to help them 455 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: afford groceries and clothes and gas, and and they're they've 456 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: tried to strike this balance of, you know, touting their 457 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: accomplishments but also acknowledging the economic pain that people are feeling. 458 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: And they really haven't figured out a message that's stuck. 459 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: And that's why you're seeing a lot of these candidates 460 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: struggle because frankly, voters are blaming this on Joe Biden, 461 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: and his approval ratings have really sunk in the past 462 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: few weeks because he's the guy in the White House exactly. 463 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: We are talking with Bloomberg White House reporter Jordan Fabian 464 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: about the upcoming midterms and what folks might be able 465 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: to expect. Now you had mentioned Jordan's about how democracy 466 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: was an issue you for a hot minute. The President 467 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: still trying to keep it in the spotlight, making the 468 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: January six the insurrection an issue. He talked about it 469 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: at this past week at Union Station, drawing a parallel 470 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: between the attack on Paul Pelosi in his home, which 471 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: also happened uh in this past week. He's the husband 472 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, also of the violence of 473 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: the January six the insurrection, talked about that as well, 474 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: condemning the rise in violence. He was actually kind of 475 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: hinting that perhaps this could be part of Donald Trump's 476 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: big lie of a stolen election, and that's what's whipping 477 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: folks are. Can't pretend it's just going to solve itself. 478 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: There's an alarming rise in the number of our people 479 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: in this country condoning political violence. Now, is there any 480 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: indication Jordan's that, um, this is mobilizing Democrats to come 481 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: out and vote, or maybe changing hearts and minds of 482 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: folks on the other side, change your hearts and minds 483 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: on the other side, I highly doubt. Um. You know, 484 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: this place seems to be uh something to get the 485 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: Democratic base going, because of course they're that's front of 486 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: mind for them. And look, you know, these are really 487 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: important issues, you know, democracy. You know, the election denial 488 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: follow from January six. You know, this is something that 489 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, President you know, probably should be talking about 490 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: in the run of the election, given the kind of 491 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: candidates that are running on the other side. But um, 492 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, as a matter of you know, political expediency 493 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: and tactical decision making ahead of the mid terms, I'm 494 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: not sure this is moving voters in Democrats favoritehead of 495 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: the midterms. You know, the cost of living, Like we're 496 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: just talking about the economy. Those are things that are 497 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: front of mind, and that's really imperative for Biden to 498 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: address in the In the closing days here, I want 499 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: to talk to you about some of the big races 500 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: that have been top of mind over the past well 501 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: the past several weeks. Really, you've got Georgia's Senate race, 502 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: You've got Pennsylvania, you've got Nevada. What are some of 503 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: the things that you're gonna be watching for in the 504 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: next few days. Well, especially in Nevada, you know, can 505 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: you know Cortez Masto, the Democratic senator there, really harness 506 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: the Hispanic vote. I mean, that's been the key turnout 507 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: engine for Democrats. And you know that used to be 508 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: a purple state and they've now you know, captured basically 509 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: all the statewide offices there. But uh, since the pandemic, 510 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: those a lot of those people work in the casinos. 511 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: They had a really tough time during the pandemic. The 512 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: inflation is really hitting Nevada hard. So, uh, you know, 513 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: all all these economic issues we're talking about, that that 514 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: really you know, if you look at Nevada, that would 515 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: say that's kind of the ground zero for that. But 516 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: in in Georgia, you know, it's you have these other 517 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: candidates like herschel Walker who have really been you know, 518 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: poor candidates, and but traction has traction. You have traction 519 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: because of the environment and the environment is so bad 520 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: for Democrats. And when you say the environment, you mean 521 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: the tone, the political and vironment. You know, people are 522 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: angry and upset with it with the economy and they 523 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: want to take it out on Democrats. So is that 524 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: going to be enough to propel kenn who has flaws 525 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: like hershel Walker to victory? And so that's what I'll 526 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: be looking for in you know, Georgia and also in 527 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: Arizona and in Pennsylvania. Things have really tightened up between 528 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: Memo Oz and Fetterman. That's right. And so you look 529 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: at uh, you look at what Joe Biden is going, right, 530 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: He's avoided a lot of those states we were just 531 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: talking about with the key races, but his advisors believe 532 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: that he resonates in Pennsylvania's well, Joe Biden have took 533 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: cottails here. Can he help really propel Fetterman, who's really 534 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: struggled since having that stroke and fallen behind or I 535 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: guess how his lead cut uh over odds? Like can 536 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: he could Joe Biden propel at least one vulnerable Democrat 537 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: to victory this year? All right, we're gonna watch it 538 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: with you. Jordan Fabian covering the White House for Bloomberg 539 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: News as always, Jordan, thank you so much. Thank you, Amy. 540 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: That's what's going on in the nation's capital. 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