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Speaker 1: the combine. Its mark. Yes it is Thursday, but the
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Speaker 1: got a loaded show today, he said, It's a loaded week.
Speaker 1: This is one of the best weeks in the NFL
Speaker 1: off season, and especially when you pair that with the
Speaker 1: March madness of the n c Double A. It's a
Speaker 1: great week everybody, Yeah, every But I mean, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna talk too much about the n c A tournament here,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, if you want to tweet me and
Speaker 1: to talk a little hoops, we can do that as well.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have a busy week here at one
Speaker 1: Jet Strip. Mike mccagnet in Indianapolis said the Jets will
Speaker 1: be active in free agency. He said that in January
Speaker 1: when the season ended, He said, expect the team to
Speaker 1: be active, especially in the first day of free agency.
Speaker 1: But since we're talking about Indianapolis, he and I went
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis for the two NFL scouting combine. It was
Speaker 1: not negative two degrees like EA had warned me that
Speaker 1: it usually is. It was actually pretty warm. Indianapolis is
Speaker 1: a fun little city. It's a great city. It's a
Speaker 1: great convention city. There has been talk and you heard
Speaker 1: some of this jet or yourself while we're in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Lee could possibly move the combine in future years. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think Indianapolis does a great job.
Speaker 1: Plenty of great restaurants in town for the folks at night,
Speaker 1: I want to go out and grab a quick bite
Speaker 1: to eat or get an adult beverage. We were set
Speaker 1: up perfectly Radio Row, the Jets set right behind esp
Speaker 1: I know a lot of folks saw us on ESPN,
Speaker 1: so that was a nice little set up for us.
Speaker 1: And then we talked to a lot of people. We
Speaker 1: listened to a lot of prospects and draft isn't too
Speaker 1: far away. I can't believe it's almost mid March now.
Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit over a month. If you're
Speaker 1: a Jets fan right now, you're looking at it and saying, okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's see what we get in free agency. But then
Speaker 1: we have the sixth overall selection and we have three
Speaker 1: picks in the top forty nine overall. This is a
Speaker 1: draft that is supposed to have a lot of depth
Speaker 1: in rounds two and three. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: elite players, as Dane Brugler told us, are at the top.
Speaker 1: With that being said, I think there are elite players.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that breakoff point is, but there
Speaker 1: are guys who definitely helped themselves in Indianapolis but I
Speaker 1: would just reiterate that what you see on the field
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis should just be a confirmation of what you
Speaker 1: see on tape. That tape is what matters. Ethan, depending
Speaker 1: upon yes, medicals, interviews, all those other things, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But as far as the running, four neies, the verticals,
Speaker 1: the bras, the shows, all those things are important to
Speaker 1: an extent. Obviously, there were some winners and losers, as
Speaker 1: there are every year of the two thous eighteen scouting
Speaker 1: comment will talk with Matt Miller about who those guys
Speaker 1: were in his eyes. But real quick about Indianapolis is
Speaker 1: two things that stood out to me about the city,
Speaker 1: not so much about the football part of it. Is
Speaker 1: one the same almost cocktail sauce you warned me about it.
Speaker 1: It is real. My nose was running like you saying bolt.
Speaker 1: And two is everyone's starting this. Well we'll see if
Speaker 1: this makes the cut later on. But e as telling
Speaker 1: me people in Indianapolis or not. Everyone's telling me. I
Speaker 1: was driving the first night we I drove us to dinner.
Speaker 1: I got flipped off. Yeah, well yeah, but you're from
Speaker 1: the city. You're city guys, so your pop's probably taught
Speaker 1: you how to drive at a real young age in
Speaker 1: the city, and you have to be aggressive and but
Speaker 1: but that was I was not aggressive with it. There
Speaker 1: happened to be someone that was walking across the street
Speaker 1: not looking, so I gave her a little throat clear,
Speaker 1: say hey, listen, look up. Did she had the don
Speaker 1: logs on? I had a green light. We were driving
Speaker 1: like a tank in Indianapolis and a great car. Listen,
Speaker 1: so you beeped? I didn't hunk. I gave a throw
Speaker 1: clear like a little just a little, a little tap
Speaker 1: on the horn just to say, hey, listen, we're coming in.
Speaker 1: So whatever, I'm fine. I'm fine with that. And you
Speaker 1: should be used to that. You're from New York, so
Speaker 1: I'm upset about I'm not upset about it. I was
Speaker 1: just saying, oh, okay, Indianapolis got some spice. That's enough
Speaker 1: about you. I want to talk some football draft about
Speaker 1: bringing in Matt Miller. Let's do it, Matt. We just
Speaker 1: got done with the Combine. Free agency is starting this week.
Speaker 1: I want to start with the NFL Draft and the Combine.
Speaker 1: Who gained the most out of all the prospects who
Speaker 1: were in Indianapolis. Well, I know you gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Shakeo Barkley, and yeah, he looks good, but we are
Speaker 1: knew he was really the consensus number one player in
Speaker 1: the class. So I would look at someone like Bradley
Speaker 1: Chub who came in and tested exceptionally well defensive income
Speaker 1: around North Carolina State, and someone who I think is
Speaker 1: a top five lock right now that has to be
Speaker 1: talked about as whether it's the Indianapolis called to three,
Speaker 1: maybe even the New York Giants at too, depend on
Speaker 1: what's there. He is someone that I think teams are
Speaker 1: gonna be excited about. People I talked to say he's
Speaker 1: the hands down best defender in the draft, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna hear his name called early. And then a quarterback
Speaker 1: that you guys have been leading to, Josh Allen continued
Speaker 1: to have a great off season that he looked good
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. We saw improved mechanics and all
Speaker 1: that carried over to his combine work at as well.
Speaker 1: You know, tested well athletically, shirt off that arm strength
Speaker 1: with that beautiful seventy R bob that he launched, just
Speaker 1: again to show that he's taking the proper steps. He's
Speaker 1: not over striding anymore when he grows so that work
Speaker 1: he's put in with Jordan Palmer this off season is
Speaker 1: really paid off and helped him out so much to
Speaker 1: get to today. With Matt Miller. You can listen to
Speaker 1: his podcast Stick to Football. Matt, you mentioned Chub. A
Speaker 1: lot of Jets fans asked me, Hey, can you be
Speaker 1: a three four rush linebacker if he did fall the six? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he can be. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: the combins so important, because we get to see that
Speaker 1: agility and to see guys who kind of play with
Speaker 1: their hand in the journal at the time of college
Speaker 1: stand up and move around and do some things, and
Speaker 1: and to see you know, three cone times. Those are
Speaker 1: such a good indicator of a guy's ability to move
Speaker 1: around and playing space. I think when we're talking about
Speaker 1: pass rushers, so she would be a little bit of
Speaker 1: a bigger stand up rush linebacker. Me, he could absolutely
Speaker 1: do it. And you know, as you guys known as
Speaker 1: you're you're listening to know, the line is blurring in
Speaker 1: the NFL between three or four or four three, it's
Speaker 1: almost just the base package, and then you get into
Speaker 1: your passing situations and everybody wants that dominant white defensive
Speaker 1: ends and Chuck can be that. I think he could
Speaker 1: come in and be a tin sack guy right away.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna great out comparably to where I had
Speaker 1: someone like Joey Bosa since in terms of a grade,
Speaker 1: which Bosa is one of my favorite players in the
Speaker 1: league right now and one of the most productive too,
Speaker 1: So I definitely think that he's someone that can fit
Speaker 1: a defends this game, and it would definitely be a
Speaker 1: fit with what you guys got there, Matt, where do
Speaker 1: you stand on Virginia text Tremaine Edmonds? Because he's someone
Speaker 1: that I know has the eye of a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL fans because he's so big, he's so fast, he
Speaker 1: plays inside outside. But he's someone that I've seen in
Speaker 1: multiple mock drafts because it is officially mock draft season,
Speaker 1: he's always been on the board at six and he's
Speaker 1: never really been linked to the Jets in a mock
Speaker 1: draft except for maybe one. So what's your stance on
Speaker 1: him and how do you think he would fit in
Speaker 1: a system under Todd Bowles If the Jets end up
Speaker 1: drafting him in April? You know you're right. He's big,
Speaker 1: he's six five, tiftive, he's back, and he's young. He's
Speaker 1: only nineteen years old because he skipped some graze, so
Speaker 1: you know he's just break Uh. That's really unlike anything
Speaker 1: we've seen. Athletically, I think he's like Anthony Barr and
Speaker 1: that's probably how you fit him into two Todd bol scheme.
Speaker 1: And he can be almost a matchup linebacker whether he's
Speaker 1: coverage or he can rush the quarterback at times. He
Speaker 1: can definitely stack up against the run. So he just
Speaker 1: gives you a nicer winkle of a guy that can
Speaker 1: move around and do a lot of different things for you.
Speaker 1: I think you could put ten pounds on and then
Speaker 1: make him an outside linebacker, roy rushers, quarterback full time.
Speaker 1: You can also just keep him in the middle. They
Speaker 1: let him patrol and take all the tight ends. With
Speaker 1: the size and speed him matching up against Gronk would
Speaker 1: be pretty fun to watch because he has the size
Speaker 1: and speed to take those tight ends up the seams.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of debate about where
Speaker 1: exactly do you put him in the NFL? Where does
Speaker 1: he fit? But everyone agrees he is a great athlete
Speaker 1: a really really good player too. So if the Jets
Speaker 1: can you know, make a splash in free agency and
Speaker 1: get through. They don't need to draft the quarterback at six.
Speaker 1: He's absolutely someone that has to be in play because
Speaker 1: I would say that that, you know, getting someone who
Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback is a pretty big priority
Speaker 1: for you guys. Well, we're gonna talk about potential splashes
Speaker 1: and free agency in a couple of moments with the
Speaker 1: Bleacher Reports Matt Miller. But in your latest mock draft,
Speaker 1: you actually have the Jets going defense for which would
Speaker 1: be a tenth consecutive time in the first round, and
Speaker 1: taking Denzil Ward out Ohio State. Now, there's some other
Speaker 1: corners up there on your big board. Make of Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: a guy from Alabama is interesting, Joshua Jackson from Iowa.
Speaker 1: What do you like about Ward? And is he big
Speaker 1: enough to play man press on the outside in the NFL?
Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a great question because he's
Speaker 1: a little undersized, right, and he's almost five eleven, he's
Speaker 1: about buck nine D. But he's physical. I wouldn't watch
Speaker 1: him and your guy's backyard and went he's got him
Speaker 1: against Rutgers and he's physical enough to play at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimm and he could play in that fresh
Speaker 1: team because he does have long especially for his frame.
Speaker 1: He's tough, his technique is so clean in that press situation.
Speaker 1: He's fast too, I mean he won't. He had the
Speaker 1: fastest forty times in the combine. So we see that
Speaker 1: he has not only technique, but he has the speed
Speaker 1: and athleticism to execute those bail to to, you know,
Speaker 1: get up a guy's face and then carry them and
Speaker 1: face down the fields. I loved inzel Ward as far as,
Speaker 1: like you said, there are a lot of good corners
Speaker 1: in this class. I happen to think make of this.
Speaker 1: Patrick hasn't safety and you guys have two really good
Speaker 1: young ones, so he wouldn't be in play there. But again,
Speaker 1: if some of the boxes can be checked in free agency,
Speaker 1: then I think you can get to the draft and
Speaker 1: go after someone like intel Ward who's gonna give you
Speaker 1: a number one corner that's twenty two years old, and
Speaker 1: you compare with Jamal Adams and Marcus May and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you have this great young secondary. It's
Speaker 1: also going to be really really cheap to have three
Speaker 1: key positions in that both defense checked off. That's an
Speaker 1: outstanding point. And uh so you see Fitzpatrick as more
Speaker 1: of a true free safety who can play cornerback as
Speaker 1: opposed to a guy who can come out and a
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say, well, we're gonna play
Speaker 1: him on the outside. Yeah, I do, and maybe even
Speaker 1: more like, you know, almost like a slot corner. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of what he did at Alabama this last
Speaker 1: year because they liked to get him in the box
Speaker 1: where he was so effective as a blitzer coming off
Speaker 1: the edge, taking away the run, spying quarterbacks. I think
Speaker 1: one thing that that we've seen with Minkas Tape. You know,
Speaker 1: he played outside corner early on in Alabama because some injuries,
Speaker 1: and he's played free safety, he's played down in the
Speaker 1: box and a strong safety, he's played slot corner. So
Speaker 1: you know, he is kind of like we were talking
Speaker 1: about with Tremaine Edmunds, someone that you probably could feel
Speaker 1: like I could just match up really well each week
Speaker 1: and you could move him around to say, Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: if we're playing, you know, a team with a mobile quarterback,
Speaker 1: maybe we want him in the box. Or if you're
Speaker 1: playing the New England Patriots, maybe you want him matched
Speaker 1: up against the tight end or taking away all those
Speaker 1: of the crossing routes. And rub Routes that they loved him.
Speaker 1: So I think he is someone that you don't have
Speaker 1: to like throw just a position on him and say, okay,
Speaker 1: he's only gonna play free safety, single high. I think
Speaker 1: instead he's someone you can move around and almost like
Speaker 1: you know how Tyron Matthew was early in his career,
Speaker 1: where you can just get a great match up with
Speaker 1: him and try to take away the offensive best player. Well,
Speaker 1: we've been talking to Matt Miller from bleacher Report for
Speaker 1: about seven and a half minutes. We haven't even talked
Speaker 1: quarterbacks yet. So if you had the over, I think
Speaker 1: you win. Matt. I'm gonna hold off on the quarterback
Speaker 1: just because I have a couple more draft gritty questions
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at your mock draft, and he brought
Speaker 1: up Denz Award. But in the second round, the Jets
Speaker 1: have two picks, have a lot of draft capital. Early
Speaker 1: in the top fifty, at thirty seven, you have the
Speaker 1: Green and White selecting Georgia's Lorenzo Carter, who had a
Speaker 1: very good week in Indianapolis. If you look at the
Speaker 1: forty he obviously he has extremely long arms. How helpful
Speaker 1: was this event for him? Is he one of those
Speaker 1: guys that really you who's Indianapolis as kind of a
Speaker 1: catapult for his draft stock? I think so. And also
Speaker 1: he used the college football playoffs as a catapult days
Speaker 1: draft stock. You go into that and everyone's talking about
Speaker 1: Rokean Smith and you start to see the other guy, right,
Speaker 1: and it's okay, well again as you get after the
Speaker 1: quarterback a little bit, and yeah, he's had a great bill,
Speaker 1: super long arms, and oh, pretty good athlete, and then
Speaker 1: the combine confirms all that that you've seen on tape.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why you know, Yeah, he's probably
Speaker 1: moved up on a lot of draft boards, especially in
Speaker 1: the media over the last month or so, because he
Speaker 1: had that splash at the end of the year and
Speaker 1: now he's backed up with good testing. So I'm intrigued
Speaker 1: by him. Georgia produces some great linebackers. It's a bear
Speaker 1: the program for that. But I see him as someone
Speaker 1: who could be a very good rush linebacker because of
Speaker 1: the athleticism, because the link and he wasn't used in
Speaker 1: a full time role doing that at Georgia, but he
Speaker 1: did it enough for us to see, Okay, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he can have production here. He has the tools to
Speaker 1: be a really good stand up pass rusher. Hey, Matt
Speaker 1: did Georgan Jenkins help you with your latest mock draft.
Speaker 1: You have Nick Chubb going to the Jets in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. I think the Green and White faithful will
Speaker 1: be rejoicing if that does happen to his job was
Speaker 1: a highly successful running back with the Dogs. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: a great inside outside runner. Schub reminds me of like
Speaker 1: a poor man's Frink Gorse and not a whole of
Speaker 1: fame run back like Frank Row. I'm not saying that,
Speaker 1: but someone who has that running style, and he might
Speaker 1: not have the speed to turn the corner and hit
Speaker 1: those home runs, but I think in inside those scheme
Speaker 1: he has such good vision. He's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: pick his spots. He's gonna be able to get those
Speaker 1: tough yards. He tested very well to combine better than
Speaker 1: I expected uh and shows that he still has even
Speaker 1: though he might not have the great home run speed
Speaker 1: after the knee injury, but he does still have the agility,
Speaker 1: to strength the vision. I think he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: very good player if he can just get to the
Speaker 1: right type of team that's going to use him and
Speaker 1: really play to history were fast, and it's you most sorry.
Speaker 1: Green's about the offensive line right now as far as
Speaker 1: this class is concerned, because you are one of the
Speaker 1: guys who has put Iowa's James Daniels on my radar
Speaker 1: at the center position, because everybody is talking about Billy
Speaker 1: Price for a long time, and unfortunately he got up
Speaker 1: to the bench in Indianapolis suffered that partially torn pack
Speaker 1: that I believe will require surgery. Right now, Den Orlando
Speaker 1: brown Head, by all accounts a tough Indianapolis, And uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people mixed on this tackle class.
Speaker 1: And then finally there are some folks met and you
Speaker 1: know this better than me yor say, Quentin Nelson is
Speaker 1: the cleanest prospect in the entire draft. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: weird offensive line class because the interior old line is
Speaker 1: so good, whether it's Quintin Nelson and Billy Price. He
Speaker 1: did have surgery, he told me last night. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be out about three months. James Daniels declares early from Iowa,
Speaker 1: and he is just so smooth playing center. Will Hernandez,
Speaker 1: I'd say a wind from Georgia gonna kick down from
Speaker 1: left tackle to play guard in the NFL. It's a
Speaker 1: very good interior offensive line class, but you do get
Speaker 1: to those tackles, and some people think that text and
Speaker 1: is Connor Williams maybe should be a guarden because he
Speaker 1: has thirty three inch arms. I still haven't to think
Speaker 1: he could play tackle. You're absolutely right, Orlando Brown's Oklahoma
Speaker 1: have the worst combine performance I've ever seen. Barn And
Speaker 1: not just a five a five forty, but fourteen reps
Speaker 1: on the bench. What a nineteen inch divert. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just if you even just look at the numbers,
Speaker 1: people who had like the percent test rate that he
Speaker 1: did don't get drafted. And this was a guy everyone
Speaker 1: was saying was a bushground pick not that long ago.
Speaker 1: I was not a huge fan of his tape. I
Speaker 1: went and watched him in person a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he could move very well. I thought
Speaker 1: he could move a little better than he did an Indy.
Speaker 1: So he needs to redeem himself at his pro day.
Speaker 1: But on the inside, this offensive line class is very good.
Speaker 1: I think on the outside you almost have to have
Speaker 1: a bit of an imagination. Mike mcglenchie from Notre Dame
Speaker 1: is a plug and play ready guy, but he struggled
Speaker 1: with speed rushers. You can watch the Miami or Georgia
Speaker 1: games for Notre Dame. He really struggled there, So he's
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to play on the right side. Colton
Speaker 1: Miller from u C L a great athlete. But there's
Speaker 1: a reason Josh Rosen was hurt all the time. It's
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of pressure coming off the left
Speaker 1: side of that line. So Culton nor even needs a
Speaker 1: lot of work despite the fact that he tested well
Speaker 1: and looks like a great athlete. Yeah, you said he's
Speaker 1: got to get in the weight room a little bit.
Speaker 1: Looks a little too lean. Yeah, it looks like a
Speaker 1: basketball players still a lot a little bit before I
Speaker 1: touch on the receivers with you real quick, Matt is
Speaker 1: someone like Orlando Brown? What do you have benefited from
Speaker 1: just not participating in the combine and just saving all
Speaker 1: the drills for his pro day after weighing in and
Speaker 1: being measured. I think there's two schools of thought there.
Speaker 1: You can look at it that way and said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to test to also let me save
Speaker 1: it for the pro day. But the problem is then
Speaker 1: if you bomb the pro day, you don't have a
Speaker 1: chance to redeem yourself, so it's almost better when you're
Speaker 1: not and half way order is not an athletic guy
Speaker 1: to have as many chances as possible to approve it.
Speaker 1: So you know he runs up five eight five in
Speaker 1: in Indie. He's gonna run a little bit faster pro day,
Speaker 1: you would hope, and so it's probably calculated. It might
Speaker 1: also be the fact where you know he just he
Speaker 1: knows he's not going to test you below and he
Speaker 1: can say, hey, like my film was good. I was
Speaker 1: an All American. I didn't give up a fact. Who
Speaker 1: cares how fast I run a Ford? He go up
Speaker 1: to the film, So he's in a tricky spot. Hopefully
Speaker 1: his agents are doing some damage control. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: fascinated by this year's Receiving Corps because you look at
Speaker 1: all the draft pundits, including yourself, and you see calver
Speaker 1: ban Lee is universally number one, and then two to
Speaker 1: five is different depending upon whose list you're looking at.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to know, based on last week's performance
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, who are some of the guys that you
Speaker 1: think have separated themselves from the pack, maybe had a
Speaker 1: good week or a bad week to improve and does
Speaker 1: Equanimius st. Brown have the best name in the NFL
Speaker 1: draft this year? Well, that's a load of question, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, man. I like the Scotland
Speaker 1: Sutton kid from No. I like Courtland sudden lot and
Speaker 1: he had a good week. I was gonna say, guys,
Speaker 1: the players that receiver who had good weeks where it
Speaker 1: doesn't help us because it was all those guys that
Speaker 1: are stuck in that here after Calvin Ridley. So like
Speaker 1: you wanted to see, okay, who's going to separate from
Speaker 1: Courtlet Sutton and Christian Kirky d J. Moore. The problem
Speaker 1: is they all did say well, so we're still kind
Speaker 1: of stuck in this conundrum of waiting to see it.
Speaker 1: Even Gian came from Clinton who kind of became an
Speaker 1: afterthought this year because they just didn't have the passing
Speaker 1: production for him to really showcase himself. He also ran well.
Speaker 1: So it gets to a point where you kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to combine to be a separator, and it just
Speaker 1: wasn't because all those guys did perform well. Cointletd Sunt
Speaker 1: has excellent size and the combine was so important for
Speaker 1: him because he needed to show that he could move.
Speaker 1: He didn't go to the Senior Bowl, so the Combine
Speaker 1: kids chance to prove that he had the speed to
Speaker 1: stray the field and separated from guys. And he's a
Speaker 1: big jude. That a run as well as he did,
Speaker 1: I was really really impressive and it might get him
Speaker 1: into the push range. Where are you right now with
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? Sam Donald did not throw Baker Mayfield as
Speaker 1: you said, Hey, let's stop those comparisons to guys like
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because he didn't run that fast. But a
Speaker 1: lot of people would argue he is the best pure
Speaker 1: passer as far as accuracy in the draft. Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: perhaps maybe his stock is up. Lamar Jackson I thought
Speaker 1: was cool. Form my perspective. He said, listen, I'm a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to run. People know I can run.
Speaker 1: I want to show you what I can do throwing
Speaker 1: the football, and I know either not even workout. But
Speaker 1: I liked his approach. Where do you stand on all
Speaker 1: these guys? And finally about Mason Rudolph, I know that's
Speaker 1: a guy you like there in the Middlewest. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really do. It's like a second round guy who could
Speaker 1: be a startup for you. It's a weird quarterback clack
Speaker 1: because I could run down a list with you guys
Speaker 1: of all the things I like about HISS quarterback because
Speaker 1: they all have a really good trait and really good quality.
Speaker 1: And on the flip side, we could run down a
Speaker 1: list of all the things I don't like because about
Speaker 1: these guys, because they all have a really big question mark.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a really fascinating year, unlike you know
Speaker 1: last year with Travisky and Watson, the ma homes. Sam
Speaker 1: Donald had twenty two turnovers and has a funky throwing motion.
Speaker 1: And Rosen has been hurt a lot and might not
Speaker 1: be the most well liked guy by you know, coaches
Speaker 1: and owners and some of the older crowd. Baker's short,
Speaker 1: not explosively athletic, and he can be a little fiery
Speaker 1: off the field, and all that. Josh Allen, you know,
Speaker 1: was not accurate in college, so you gotta phase out
Speaker 1: if you could fix that. LaMarche action also not very
Speaker 1: accurate in college. And a guy who does his style
Speaker 1: as a predominant runner, does that translate to the NFL.
Speaker 1: So there are big questions about all of them. But
Speaker 1: I liked this quarterback class. I think there are six
Speaker 1: guys that we've taught it's about to deserve to be
Speaker 1: drafted in the top fifty or fifty five picks, and
Speaker 1: some of that is supplied first demand. These teams are
Speaker 1: going to draft quarterbacks early. You guys might do one
Speaker 1: of them. And it's also it's just become the economics
Speaker 1: of the NFL that if you're drafting early, you get
Speaker 1: a quarterback because you can build as we've seen so
Speaker 1: many of these teams do, like look at what the
Speaker 1: Rams are doing. You have, even with a quarterback selected
Speaker 1: first overall inexpensive compared to how much you're gonna pay
Speaker 1: the you know, Kirk Cousins of the world. So you
Speaker 1: can really load up a roster. And there's no one
Speaker 1: that I would put at that level of Jared Golf
Speaker 1: or Carson Wentz. They're probably all closer to where I have,
Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson and Tropisky last year. But if they
Speaker 1: can get in the right situations, each of these guys
Speaker 1: could be a very good starter in the NFL. It's
Speaker 1: so much about situation. You know, what kind of offensive scheme,
Speaker 1: who do they have a left tackle? Who they have
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Do they have Tis early behind them?
Speaker 1: Those types of things really helped out what Tom Bowl said.
Speaker 1: The Jets have to have multiple plans at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Mike mccagnet has continued to reiterate throughout the off season
Speaker 1: all options on the table. As we start free agency
Speaker 1: week here, the Las Vegas odds have Minnesota one to three,
Speaker 1: don Ver Broncos ten to three, the Jets five to one,
Speaker 1: in the Arizona Cardinals fifteen and one to get the
Speaker 1: services of Kirk Cousins. Adam Schefter said, those four teams
Speaker 1: are in the mix. You actually talked to some folks.
Speaker 1: You think that this could come down to Minnesota and
Speaker 1: the Jets. What is your overall take on Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: in the situation he is facing this week? One of
Speaker 1: you guys him, I might have to talking. I might
Speaker 1: pay back pretty good. My vacation this summer might be
Speaker 1: paid for a real soon. Uh. I like Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: I love him. In the Jeremy Bates offense, I mean
Speaker 1: this is, you know, an offense that is close to
Speaker 1: my heart as a someone who grew up a forty
Speaker 1: Niners fan and wanted to be the next Bill Walsh.
Speaker 1: You know, so much of this often is from that foundation,
Speaker 1: and we've seen Kirk Cousins played in that scheme, you know,
Speaker 1: under Kyle Shanahan, under Sean McVeigh. We've seen him have success.
Speaker 1: So you don't have to have an imagination to wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, how Cousin's gonna stick in this offense, because
Speaker 1: we've seen him do it, and we've seen him had
Speaker 1: a high level of success. And I think one thing
Speaker 1: that you know, in Washington, he had that success sometimes
Speaker 1: without a great supporting cast. You know, yes, they had
Speaker 1: a good offensive line, but they've never had a featured
Speaker 1: running back who can take pressure off Cousins, kind of
Speaker 1: like we saw Leonard Burnette do for Black Bartles this year,
Speaker 1: or like we see Ty Gurley do with Jeric Goff.
Speaker 1: And even a receiver, there's been a bit of a
Speaker 1: revolving door as they kind of, you know, retool that
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps so often. So I even think that
Speaker 1: cousins best football might still be ahead of him, just
Speaker 1: because he's gonna get somewhere where number one he feels
Speaker 1: wanted and sided at number two where you can build
Speaker 1: a plan around him to give him actual receivers, a
Speaker 1: deep receiving core where you can you know, if you
Speaker 1: have that quarterback knee checked off, you can get a
Speaker 1: good running back to help him out. So I'm a
Speaker 1: Cousin's guy. I was way too low on him coming
Speaker 1: out on Michigan State. I've tried to make amends for
Speaker 1: that sense, but I do believe he's the type of
Speaker 1: quarterback that can win and with a good supporting cast,
Speaker 1: I think he could win a Super Are you way
Speaker 1: too low on him? I don't remember what what did
Speaker 1: you have him? I think I had like a third
Speaker 1: round grade on him and he ended up becoming a
Speaker 1: really good daughter. So that's a quarterback class. I mean
Speaker 1: that was That was Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins. So
Speaker 1: those are the two guys I'll always remember being way
Speaker 1: too low. Listen, you're not. Come on, you're not. You'd
Speaker 1: be a little bit hard on yourself. You're not alone.
Speaker 1: Let's consider where they went in the draft and the other.
Speaker 1: My other thing is I remember interview and I know
Speaker 1: you were down there that year because we have been
Speaker 1: going there for multiple years. Ethan Uh actually represented us
Speaker 1: down the Jets three sixty team downtomobile this year. But
Speaker 1: I remember interviewing both him and Russell Wilson and being
Speaker 1: so impressed with their intellect and their maturity those guys
Speaker 1: coming out because we often forget, you know, as we
Speaker 1: continue to get older, Matt is that these guys are
Speaker 1: so young when they come out. But those guys had
Speaker 1: something upstairs that you're like, yeah, you can see them
Speaker 1: being the guy, but physically can they be the guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I actually that year was my first combine and
Speaker 1: I got somehow got access to go and watch them
Speaker 1: warm up and like go through their script basically what
Speaker 1: they were going to be the next day. It's been
Speaker 1: several hours with them, and just remember their trainer pushing
Speaker 1: me so hard, like you's got to get these guys
Speaker 1: up in your rankings so good. And if he doesn't
Speaker 1: remind me of that every time, I feel so in
Speaker 1: your mind, what should the Jets if that is their
Speaker 1: plan a which external speculation as sworld for months now
Speaker 1: that Jets would have some kind of interest in Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: if that's the plan of any signs elsewhere, what do
Speaker 1: you think should be there alternative plans or I shouldn't
Speaker 1: even say alternative plans, but there are other plans because,
Speaker 1: like I think, it's all connected free agency in the draft,
Speaker 1: like you were talking about before, it is all connected,
Speaker 1: and you have to have the contingency plans if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out. So I think one really smart thing
Speaker 1: That's Runt Office did was trading Chagrin Richardson and getting
Speaker 1: not only Tremaine Curse, but that extra second round pick.
Speaker 1: Because now you do have, like you guys said earlier,
Speaker 1: the draft capital that if you fall in love with
Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks Mission's class, now you have the
Speaker 1: ammunition to move up from six to get one. You know,
Speaker 1: even if Cleveland takes Sam Donald at one and say
Speaker 1: Kwan goes to and Chub goes three, the Browns might
Speaker 1: be willing to trade out of four and you can
Speaker 1: get in front of Denver and you know, to move
Speaker 1: up two spots. It's not gonna cost the time. So
Speaker 1: now you have the draft capital to be a say
Speaker 1: to make a move, but not completely mortgage your future
Speaker 1: and give up, you know, the opportunity to get still
Speaker 1: some starters out of the Shears draft. So I would
Speaker 1: look at it that way. You know, this is a
Speaker 1: quarterback class with four guys who have been projected to
Speaker 1: go top ten with Sam Donald, Josh Rose and Josh
Speaker 1: Allen and Baker Mayfield all expected to be drafted pretty early.
Speaker 1: They all have starter trades, franchise quarterback trades. It's just
Speaker 1: a matter of kind of vetting the weaknesses they all
Speaker 1: bring to the table. But I think it's six you're
Speaker 1: in the spot where you could get a quarterback this fall.
Speaker 1: But they also have the room now to move up
Speaker 1: if they need to. If the Jets answer a quarterback
Speaker 1: is indeed through the draft and either with that sixth
Speaker 1: pick or let's say, like you said, they trade up
Speaker 1: to four. Who do you think schematically makes sense for
Speaker 1: the Jets and who would you like to see in
Speaker 1: New York come April. Yeah, well, I think I think
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield does spit that offense. Well, he's accurate. Um,
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing to get lost with him,
Speaker 1: it's just how accurate he is. He operates will on
Speaker 1: the move, so you can, you know, get him the
Speaker 1: outside of the pocket a little bit. He doesn't turn
Speaker 1: the ball over, He's smart with the football thematically, he
Speaker 1: could be a fit, and I think Josh Allen could
Speaker 1: be as well, he doesn't need some things cleaned up.
Speaker 1: If you're going to draft either of those guys, who
Speaker 1: would be best to have a free agent veteran like
Speaker 1: Josh McCown back because they're not going to be ready
Speaker 1: to step right in. There's going to be a learning curve.
Speaker 1: But I think either guys fits really well just because
Speaker 1: of the mobility that they put to the table. I
Speaker 1: think Josh's arm is gonna allow whomever drafts him to
Speaker 1: really open up their offense because you know, he effortlessly
Speaker 1: throws those deep outs and the comebacks that some of
Speaker 1: the other guys aren't able to reach like he can.
Speaker 1: So I could see either one of those players been
Speaker 1: a really good fit. Yeah. I thought Alan Stock was
Speaker 1: really gonna fall after the Senior Ball and I know
Speaker 1: you guys were down there watching practices and things like that.
Speaker 1: It sounded like he hadn't okay week where is in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: I think he really helped himself. And now we're talking
Speaker 1: about all of a sudden, I don't know if Josh
Speaker 1: Allen is gonna last be on the top six or
Speaker 1: seven texts in the draft. Yeah, and he might not
Speaker 1: make a touch for the first pick you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you think you think it's gonna be Donald
Speaker 1: or Allen. Right there, Shake has done enough to throw
Speaker 1: himself into that conversation. I can remember a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago running through a Jets mock draft with my
Speaker 1: coach KNYA Rogers, and it was like, man stick on
Speaker 1: my father the Jets. How amazing would that be? And
Speaker 1: now it's like, there's no way he's gonna make it
Speaker 1: to six. So unfortunately, because you guys do have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with him. He's a great player and
Speaker 1: a great person, but and he grew up a Jets fan.
Speaker 1: He grew up a Jets fan. Yeah, that's why we
Speaker 1: didn't even waste any of your time today talking about
Speaker 1: se Kwan because he's a beast, and he had a
Speaker 1: fantastic combine and he's a great kid, and I just
Speaker 1: can't see him being around after the top three overall
Speaker 1: selections in the draft. You gotta follow this guy at
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft Scout. You gotta listen to his podcast,
Speaker 1: Stick the Football. I'm a big I P A fan,
Speaker 1: so I gotta ask you a couple of questions. I
Speaker 1: know you gave somebody a recommendation about Bolivard Tank seven.
Speaker 1: There's a brewery in Brooklyn six points resident. You ever
Speaker 1: had that before? I haven't got y R s I N.
Speaker 1: They're in cans. It is fantastic, very smooth, high alcohol percentage,
Speaker 1: but a smooth beor nice hops. More of a Northeastern
Speaker 1: I PM. I'm not gonna let Mac go until he
Speaker 1: tells me his favorite name in the two NFL draft
Speaker 1: class based based on a name perspective, because the two
Speaker 1: that stick out to me or Equanimius st. Brown and
Speaker 1: Hercules motta Offa. Okay, okay, I figured, yeah, alright, that's
Speaker 1: that's all I got. That's that's draft chat here on
Speaker 1: the Official Jet podcast again, like he said, Follow Matt
Speaker 1: Miller on Twitter, NFL Draft Scout, Listen to his podcast
Speaker 1: Stick to Football. It gets me through traffic in the morning. Matt,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Yeah, I heard, uh, I heard your
Speaker 1: name was almost Hercules Mataafa. Pardon me, Hercules Mataafa is
Speaker 1: one of the players in this year's draft, and that's
Speaker 1: who Matt Miller believes, as you just told us, is
Speaker 1: the best name in the draft, along with e Q st.
Speaker 1: Brown of Notre Dame, who has said that three times today. Greens.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about free agency here. When I look at
Speaker 1: free agency right now, Greens, you look internally first, and
Speaker 1: some of the unrestricted free agents that Jets have right
Speaker 1: now with expiring contracts include Morris Claiborne, toa Mario Davis,
Speaker 1: Josh McCown, and Austin Seferian Jenkins. So those are the
Speaker 1: four guys at the top of my list internally who
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real intrigued to see where are they going?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna stay here or maybe elsewhere? Well? Who
Speaker 1: are you in tregue by externally? Because I have my
Speaker 1: eyes on a couple of guys. One guy in particular
Speaker 1: is Allen Robinson. Played for the Jaguars since he was
Speaker 1: drafted in the second round out of Penn State, and
Speaker 1: he only played three plays this season. I mean, his
Speaker 1: stat line this year is one catch for seventeen yards
Speaker 1: because he tore his a c L. But this is
Speaker 1: someone who's gonna be twenty five years old. He's a
Speaker 1: big receiver, right Yeah. At fourteen and fifteen when he
Speaker 1: had his breakout year fourteen hundred yards and he led
Speaker 1: the NFL with fourteen touchdowns and could last year's free
Speaker 1: agency market like an, Alshon Jeffrey kind of set the
Speaker 1: precedent for someone like Robinson because Jeffrey had a down year,
Speaker 1: he signed a one year contract with fourteen million dollars
Speaker 1: with the Eagles and then he signed an extension for
Speaker 1: mega millions of dollars. Could Allen Robinson go that route
Speaker 1: or is he gonna be someone that wants a little
Speaker 1: more sustainability and get the multi year dalah my sons.
Speaker 1: I don't know Allen Robinson, even though I just think
Speaker 1: the I'm just prefacing by the saying at if I'm
Speaker 1: coming out and I'm a free agent, I'm looking for fit,
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. What's my role in offense going to be?
Speaker 1: So if you're Allen Robinson, I don't know if Alshon
Speaker 1: Jeffrey is gonna be a barometer for him because I
Speaker 1: think he might have multiple suitors. I don't recall Jeffries
Speaker 1: path and free agency so to speak, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be surprised if he doesn't sign a multi year deal.
Speaker 1: Also because like I said before, he's gonna be twenty
Speaker 1: five years old. Jeffrey is closer to thirty. The only
Speaker 1: negative part I mean Jeffrey bett On himself and he
Speaker 1: won big. The other side of that is someone like
Speaker 1: Terrell Pryor, who had a good year in Cleveland. He
Speaker 1: signed up with the Washington Redskins last season Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: as his quarterback, and he didn't he was hurt, he
Speaker 1: didn't have a great year, and now he's looking for
Speaker 1: a new home again. So there's obviously two edges to
Speaker 1: the sword. Yeah. And another receiver who was kind of
Speaker 1: struggled last year in l A, but he got in
Speaker 1: the end zone a number of times, as you wrote
Speaker 1: about Ethan, was Sammy Watkins. Because I've seen him in
Speaker 1: Buffalo take over games at times, and he is tremendous
Speaker 1: speed and I think he can go underneath as well.
Speaker 1: He's one to watch because I think he's only he's
Speaker 1: only twenty four years old. I still think he's got
Speaker 1: a high ceiling in the National Football League. But let's
Speaker 1: go back to the cornerback position. I'm gonna switch back
Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: Trueman Johnson. He's a guy who's gonna be out there
Speaker 1: because the Rams have been so active so far in
Speaker 1: this offseason, setting up parameters of deals to acquire not
Speaker 1: only just Marcus Peters, but it keep delaying. What the
Speaker 1: Rams are doing is I think rather rare in the
Speaker 1: NFL nowadays is trading for guys and all their moves
Speaker 1: won't become official until two days from now at the
Speaker 1: league year, but their secondary is gonna look completely different.
Speaker 1: And they got rid of Robert Quinn, who's now a
Speaker 1: member of the Miami Dolphins. Could they be saving up
Speaker 1: money and clearing room for an extension for someone like
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald I I guess we'll find out. And remember
Speaker 1: that Wade Phillips coached Keep to leave in Denver and
Speaker 1: Keep to leave apparently Ian Rappaport reported this that to
Speaker 1: Leave said he only wants to go to places New
Speaker 1: England at l A because of way Philips. So just
Speaker 1: sticking on the corner back position, is you mentioned Trueman Johnson.
Speaker 1: Denard Wilson has been with him since they've been in St.
Speaker 1: Louis together. They've been in l A as a part
Speaker 1: of the Rams. Denard Wilson came from the Rams and
Speaker 1: now obviously he's the defensive backs coach of the Jets.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, there's there's a tie. Well yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'll say, is that I think people sometimes they try
Speaker 1: to connect the dots tour. But to your point, he
Speaker 1: knows all strength, he also knows all his weaknesses, So
Speaker 1: we have no idea what denied Wilson. Thanks that Truemy Johnson,
Speaker 1: we should say that Truemaine Johnson played very well under Dar.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Trueman Johnson in his six year
Speaker 1: career has sixty seven past defenses and eighteen interceptions. He's
Speaker 1: someone that has quietly gotten the franchise tag two years
Speaker 1: in a row, similar to someone like Kirk Cousins. So
Speaker 1: he's made a lot of money the past two years
Speaker 1: and this is the time that he's finally able to
Speaker 1: test the market. Someone that's i'd say a tear below him,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a small ticket guy is
Speaker 1: Redskins corner Bashad Brelan. Four years. He's been starting for
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins since he's been drafted out of Clemson.
Speaker 1: He has sixty pass defenses, so he's very active. I've
Speaker 1: only watched him playing a couple of times. But maybe
Speaker 1: someone like that, who is a lesser name on the
Speaker 1: market could be someone that Mike mccagnen wants to address
Speaker 1: in free agency. Rap report did tell us that he
Speaker 1: would not be surprised at off Claiborne landed back here
Speaker 1: with the test. He told both of us on numerous
Speaker 1: occasions that he loved it here. He thought he played
Speaker 1: his best professional ball here. He really liked Stannard Wilson.
Speaker 1: He's fond Todd Bowls you talk about Morris Clayborne wanted
Speaker 1: to be a member of the Jets long term. He said, quote,
Speaker 1: why would I want to pack up and leave when
Speaker 1: everything I want is right here. Someone else that's very
Speaker 1: vocal about his desire to stay here is Austin Safarian Jenkins.
Speaker 1: He loves New York City. He's told me he actually
Speaker 1: just likes going to the city and people watching, no headphones,
Speaker 1: just looking around. That's regardless. He had a career year
Speaker 1: last year. He rededicated himself. He became what he described
Speaker 1: as a rookie because this was the first year to him,
Speaker 1: in his words, that he was truly focused and dedicated
Speaker 1: to the game, and he refounded his love for the game.
Speaker 1: But if the Jets decide to go elsewhere, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of guys too, you know we should match it too.
Speaker 1: And I know it doesn't get a lot of pub
Speaker 1: right now, but Wesley Johnson's restricted free agent. He did
Speaker 1: a nice job after taking over from Nick Mangol. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Harrison also his backup what restricted free agents, so the
Speaker 1: Jets could be here Wednesday without a really true center
Speaker 1: on the roster. Uh Dakota Dozer is a guy who's
Speaker 1: worked inside at both guard and center, but he's not
Speaker 1: restrict to free agent too, so the center position is
Speaker 1: an area we have to watch as well. The guy
Speaker 1: who's getting the most buzz in media circles right now
Speaker 1: is a young player for the Baltimore Ravens who made
Speaker 1: a name for himself last year, Ryan Jensen. And not
Speaker 1: only that, but he's a guy that again you don't
Speaker 1: know because he had one year at center he succeeded,
Speaker 1: So what's the market for him gonna look like if
Speaker 1: you're looking at other players? Weston Richburg of the Crosstown Giants,
Speaker 1: it's a great point. Was hurt for the majority of
Speaker 1: last year, but before that he was playing at a
Speaker 1: high level. Spencer Long the Redskins Center. He's another name
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are talking about. And not
Speaker 1: only that, but the older gentleman for the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Rams John Sullivan. So there are a lot of options
Speaker 1: there if the Jets decide to go elsewhere. So much
Speaker 1: to be decided. And that finally, we gotta talk about
Speaker 1: Josh McConnell just real quickly. McCown ultimate professional career year
Speaker 1: under the Jets quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. Well, Jeremy Bates
Speaker 1: is now the offensive play caller. Tremendous respect between those
Speaker 1: two guys. Remember they not only worked here last year
Speaker 1: and had success, but they did some good things as
Speaker 1: McCown was the backup to Jake Cutler in Chicago, so
Speaker 1: their relationship goes back a long ways. So when the
Speaker 1: Jets say they have multiple options to the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: obviously that's the main headline moving forward here in free
Speaker 1: agency and in the draft. One of those options could
Speaker 1: be Josh McCown. So I don't want people at home
Speaker 1: to say, well, Josh McCown, that would be a bad option,
Speaker 1: because Josh McCown hit a career year last year. He's
Speaker 1: also expressed to a number of external media outlets that
Speaker 1: he would be comfortable mentoring a young quarterback here. So
Speaker 1: the Jets could go that option of McCown and drafting one,
Speaker 1: adding them to the already two quarterbacks they have on
Speaker 1: the roster and Petty. I totally agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think that whatever plans A and B are, let's say
Speaker 1: one is through free agency and once through the draft.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the drop off in talent are
Speaker 1: that different. Because let's say the Jets go out and
Speaker 1: free agency, they get their quarterback. All right, that's great
Speaker 1: now that you can focus on other positions in the draft.
Speaker 1: On the flip side, you sign McCown, who, like you said,
Speaker 1: had a career year last year. You add pieces around
Speaker 1: the offense and the defense, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like Matt Miller said, maybe at six, if you make
Speaker 1: a trade up in the draft, you get your guy.
Speaker 1: Now you have McCown, who you know it will be
Speaker 1: a good mentor to whoever walks in the door as
Speaker 1: a rookie. And I don't think that either is a
Speaker 1: bad option. It's just two different methods, two different approaches
Speaker 1: of how to get your guy for the long term.
Speaker 1: So it'll be very interestings about the fall. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a fun week. Let the madness begin.