1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: The games over and you're on jet on the World. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: You play to win the gate, Dota Jet touchdown, Jetlin. 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Official New York Jets podcast, a 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production. He A. The NFL floodgates are 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: officially opening. The legal tampering period has begun. Free agency 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: officially begins in two days. We just came back from 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: the combine. Its mark. Yes it is Thursday, but the 8 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: NFL league year commences on Wednesday. What a week it 9 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: is in the sports world. What a week it should 10 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: be for Jets nature. Yes it should because we got 11 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: free agency. We got Matt Miller on the show. This 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: is the Official Jets podcast. By the way, you gotta 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: subscribe iTunes, SoundCloud, whatever you want. We're on New York 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Jets dot com. E A to my left. You can't 15 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: see that, but I'm telling you follow him on Twitter 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: at e Allen Jets, myself, Ethan Greenberg, Ethan B. Greenberg. 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: You can follow me on Instagram as well, Ellen Jets. 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: And you can't file green Can I just have to 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: accept it? Okay? Mr Private over here? All right, we 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: got a loaded show today, he said, It's a loaded week. 21 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: This is one of the best weeks in the NFL 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: off season, and especially when you pair that with the 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: March madness of the n c Double A. It's a 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: great week everybody, Yeah, every But I mean, we're not 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: gonna talk too much about the n c A tournament here, 26 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, if you want to tweet me and 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: to talk a little hoops, we can do that as well. 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: But we're gonna have a busy week here at one 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Jet Strip. Mike mccagnet in Indianapolis said the Jets will 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: be active in free agency. He said that in January 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: when the season ended, He said, expect the team to 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: be active, especially in the first day of free agency. 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: But since we're talking about Indianapolis, he and I went 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis for the two NFL scouting combine. It was 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: not negative two degrees like EA had warned me that 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: it usually is. It was actually pretty warm. Indianapolis is 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: a fun little city. It's a great city. It's a 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: great convention city. There has been talk and you heard 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: some of this jet or yourself while we're in Indianapolis. 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Lee could possibly move the combine in future years. But 41 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think Indianapolis does a great job. 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Plenty of great restaurants in town for the folks at night, 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I want to go out and grab a quick bite 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: to eat or get an adult beverage. We were set 45 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: up perfectly Radio Row, the Jets set right behind esp 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: I know a lot of folks saw us on ESPN, 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: so that was a nice little set up for us. 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: And then we talked to a lot of people. We 49 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: listened to a lot of prospects and draft isn't too 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: far away. I can't believe it's almost mid March now. 51 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit over a month. If you're 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: a Jets fan right now, you're looking at it and saying, okay, well, 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: let's see what we get in free agency. But then 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: we have the sixth overall selection and we have three 55 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: picks in the top forty nine overall. This is a 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: draft that is supposed to have a lot of depth 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: in rounds two and three. I don't know how many 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: elite players, as Dane Brugler told us, are at the top. 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: With that being said, I think there are elite players. 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know where that breakoff point is, but there 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: are guys who definitely helped themselves in Indianapolis but I 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: would just reiterate that what you see on the field 63 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis should just be a confirmation of what you 64 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: see on tape. That tape is what matters. Ethan, depending 65 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: upon yes, medicals, interviews, all those other things, yeah, no doubt. 66 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: But as far as the running, four neies, the verticals, 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: the bras, the shows, all those things are important to 68 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: an extent. Obviously, there were some winners and losers, as 69 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: there are every year of the two thous eighteen scouting 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: comment will talk with Matt Miller about who those guys 71 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: were in his eyes. But real quick about Indianapolis is 72 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: two things that stood out to me about the city, 73 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: not so much about the football part of it. Is 74 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: one the same almost cocktail sauce you warned me about it. 75 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: It is real. My nose was running like you saying bolt. 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: And two is everyone's starting this. Well we'll see if 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: this makes the cut later on. But e as telling 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: me people in Indianapolis or not. Everyone's telling me. I 79 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: was driving the first night we I drove us to dinner. 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: I got flipped off. Yeah, well yeah, but you're from 81 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: the city. You're city guys, so your pop's probably taught 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: you how to drive at a real young age in 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: the city, and you have to be aggressive and but 84 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: but that was I was not aggressive with it. There 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: happened to be someone that was walking across the street 86 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: not looking, so I gave her a little throat clear, 87 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: say hey, listen, look up. Did she had the don 88 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: logs on? I had a green light. We were driving 89 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: like a tank in Indianapolis and a great car. Listen, 90 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: so you beeped? I didn't hunk. I gave a throw 91 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: clear like a little just a little, a little tap 92 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: on the horn just to say, hey, listen, we're coming in. 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: So whatever, I'm fine. I'm fine with that. And you 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: should be used to that. You're from New York, so 95 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm upset about I'm not upset about it. I was 96 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: just saying, oh, okay, Indianapolis got some spice. That's enough 97 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: about you. I want to talk some football draft about 98 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: bringing in Matt Miller. Let's do it, Matt. We just 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: got done with the Combine. Free agency is starting this week. 100 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: I want to start with the NFL Draft and the Combine. 101 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Who gained the most out of all the prospects who 102 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: were in Indianapolis. Well, I know you gonna talk about 103 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Shakeo Barkley, and yeah, he looks good, but we are 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: knew he was really the consensus number one player in 105 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 1: the class. So I would look at someone like Bradley 106 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Chub who came in and tested exceptionally well defensive income 107 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: around North Carolina State, and someone who I think is 108 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: a top five lock right now that has to be 109 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: talked about as whether it's the Indianapolis called to three, 110 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: maybe even the New York Giants at too, depend on 111 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: what's there. He is someone that I think teams are 112 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna be excited about. People I talked to say he's 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: the hands down best defender in the draft, so he's 114 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna hear his name called early. And then a quarterback 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: that you guys have been leading to, Josh Allen continued 116 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: to have a great off season that he looked good 117 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. We saw improved mechanics and all 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: that carried over to his combine work at as well. 119 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, tested well athletically, shirt off that arm strength 120 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: with that beautiful seventy R bob that he launched, just 121 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: again to show that he's taking the proper steps. He's 122 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: not over striding anymore when he grows so that work 123 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: he's put in with Jordan Palmer this off season is 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: really paid off and helped him out so much to 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: get to today. With Matt Miller. You can listen to 126 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: his podcast Stick to Football. Matt, you mentioned Chub. A 127 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: lot of Jets fans asked me, Hey, can you be 128 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: a three four rush linebacker if he did fall the six? Yeah, 129 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: I think he can be. And I think that's why 130 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the combins so important, because we get to see that 131 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: agility and to see guys who kind of play with 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: their hand in the journal at the time of college 133 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: stand up and move around and do some things, and 134 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: and to see you know, three cone times. Those are 135 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: such a good indicator of a guy's ability to move 136 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: around and playing space. I think when we're talking about 137 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: pass rushers, so she would be a little bit of 138 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: a bigger stand up rush linebacker. Me, he could absolutely 139 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: do it. And you know, as you guys known as 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: you're you're listening to know, the line is blurring in 141 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: the NFL between three or four or four three, it's 142 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: almost just the base package, and then you get into 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: your passing situations and everybody wants that dominant white defensive 144 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: ends and Chuck can be that. I think he could 145 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: come in and be a tin sack guy right away. 146 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna great out comparably to where I had 147 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: someone like Joey Bosa since in terms of a grade, 148 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: which Bosa is one of my favorite players in the 149 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: league right now and one of the most productive too, 150 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: So I definitely think that he's someone that can fit 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: a defends this game, and it would definitely be a 152 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: fit with what you guys got there, Matt, where do 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: you stand on Virginia text Tremaine Edmonds? Because he's someone 154 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: that I know has the eye of a lot of 155 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: NFL fans because he's so big, he's so fast, he 156 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: plays inside outside. But he's someone that I've seen in 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: multiple mock drafts because it is officially mock draft season, 158 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: he's always been on the board at six and he's 159 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: never really been linked to the Jets in a mock 160 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: draft except for maybe one. So what's your stance on 161 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: him and how do you think he would fit in 162 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: a system under Todd Bowles If the Jets end up 163 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: drafting him in April? You know you're right. He's big, 164 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: he's six five, tiftive, he's back, and he's young. He's 165 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: only nineteen years old because he skipped some graze, so 166 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: you know he's just break Uh. That's really unlike anything 167 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: we've seen. Athletically, I think he's like Anthony Barr and 168 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: that's probably how you fit him into two Todd bol scheme. 169 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: And he can be almost a matchup linebacker whether he's 170 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: coverage or he can rush the quarterback at times. He 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: can definitely stack up against the run. So he just 172 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: gives you a nicer winkle of a guy that can 173 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: move around and do a lot of different things for you. 174 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: I think you could put ten pounds on and then 175 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: make him an outside linebacker, roy rushers, quarterback full time. 176 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: You can also just keep him in the middle. They 177 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: let him patrol and take all the tight ends. With 178 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: the size and speed him matching up against Gronk would 179 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: be pretty fun to watch because he has the size 180 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: and speed to take those tight ends up the seams. 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of debate about where 182 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: exactly do you put him in the NFL? Where does 183 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: he fit? But everyone agrees he is a great athlete 184 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: a really really good player too. So if the Jets 185 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: can you know, make a splash in free agency and 186 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: get through. They don't need to draft the quarterback at six. 187 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: He's absolutely someone that has to be in play because 188 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: I would say that that, you know, getting someone who 189 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback is a pretty big priority 190 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: for you guys. Well, we're gonna talk about potential splashes 191 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: and free agency in a couple of moments with the 192 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Bleacher Reports Matt Miller. But in your latest mock draft, 193 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: you actually have the Jets going defense for which would 194 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: be a tenth consecutive time in the first round, and 195 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: taking Denzil Ward out Ohio State. Now, there's some other 196 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: corners up there on your big board. Make of Fitzpatrick, 197 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: a guy from Alabama is interesting, Joshua Jackson from Iowa. 198 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: What do you like about Ward? And is he big 199 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: enough to play man press on the outside in the NFL? 200 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a great question because he's 201 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: a little undersized, right, and he's almost five eleven, he's 202 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: about buck nine D. But he's physical. I wouldn't watch 203 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: him and your guy's backyard and went he's got him 204 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: against Rutgers and he's physical enough to play at the 205 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: line of scrimm and he could play in that fresh 206 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: team because he does have long especially for his frame. 207 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: He's tough, his technique is so clean in that press situation. 208 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: He's fast too, I mean he won't. He had the 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: fastest forty times in the combine. So we see that 210 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: he has not only technique, but he has the speed 211 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: and athleticism to execute those bail to to, you know, 212 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: get up a guy's face and then carry them and 213 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: face down the fields. I loved inzel Ward as far as, 214 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: like you said, there are a lot of good corners 215 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: in this class. I happen to think make of this. 216 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Patrick hasn't safety and you guys have two really good 217 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: young ones, so he wouldn't be in play there. But again, 218 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: if some of the boxes can be checked in free agency, 219 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: then I think you can get to the draft and 220 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: go after someone like intel Ward who's gonna give you 221 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: a number one corner that's twenty two years old, and 222 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: you compare with Jamal Adams and Marcus May and all 223 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden you have this great young secondary. It's 224 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: also going to be really really cheap to have three 225 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: key positions in that both defense checked off. That's an 226 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: outstanding point. And uh so you see Fitzpatrick as more 227 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: of a true free safety who can play cornerback as 228 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: opposed to a guy who can come out and a 229 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say, well, we're gonna play 230 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: him on the outside. Yeah, I do, and maybe even 231 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: more like, you know, almost like a slot corner. That's 232 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot of what he did at Alabama this last 233 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: year because they liked to get him in the box 234 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: where he was so effective as a blitzer coming off 235 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: the edge, taking away the run, spying quarterbacks. I think 236 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: one thing that that we've seen with Minkas Tape. You know, 237 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: he played outside corner early on in Alabama because some injuries, 238 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: and he's played free safety, he's played down in the 239 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: box and a strong safety, he's played slot corner. So 240 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, he is kind of like we were talking 241 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: about with Tremaine Edmunds, someone that you probably could feel 242 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: like I could just match up really well each week 243 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: and you could move him around to say, Okay, you know, 244 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: if we're playing, you know, a team with a mobile quarterback, 245 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: maybe we want him in the box. Or if you're 246 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: playing the New England Patriots, maybe you want him matched 247 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: up against the tight end or taking away all those 248 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: of the crossing routes. And rub Routes that they loved him. 249 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: So I think he is someone that you don't have 250 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: to like throw just a position on him and say, okay, 251 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: he's only gonna play free safety, single high. I think 252 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: instead he's someone you can move around and almost like 253 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: you know how Tyron Matthew was early in his career, 254 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: where you can just get a great match up with 255 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: him and try to take away the offensive best player. Well, 256 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: we've been talking to Matt Miller from bleacher Report for 257 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: about seven and a half minutes. We haven't even talked 258 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks yet. So if you had the over, I think 259 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: you win. Matt. I'm gonna hold off on the quarterback 260 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: just because I have a couple more draft gritty questions 261 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: that I'm looking at your mock draft, and he brought 262 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: up Denz Award. But in the second round, the Jets 263 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: have two picks, have a lot of draft capital. Early 264 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: in the top fifty, at thirty seven, you have the 265 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Green and White selecting Georgia's Lorenzo Carter, who had a 266 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: very good week in Indianapolis. If you look at the 267 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: forty he obviously he has extremely long arms. How helpful 268 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: was this event for him? Is he one of those 269 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: guys that really you who's Indianapolis as kind of a 270 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: catapult for his draft stock? I think so. And also 271 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: he used the college football playoffs as a catapult days 272 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: draft stock. You go into that and everyone's talking about 273 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Rokean Smith and you start to see the other guy, right, 274 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: and it's okay, well again as you get after the 275 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: quarterback a little bit, and yeah, he's had a great bill, 276 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: super long arms, and oh, pretty good athlete, and then 277 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: the combine confirms all that that you've seen on tape. 278 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: So I think that's why you know, Yeah, he's probably 279 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: moved up on a lot of draft boards, especially in 280 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: the media over the last month or so, because he 281 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: had that splash at the end of the year and 282 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: now he's backed up with good testing. So I'm intrigued 283 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: by him. Georgia produces some great linebackers. It's a bear 284 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: the program for that. But I see him as someone 285 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: who could be a very good rush linebacker because of 286 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the athleticism, because the link and he wasn't used in 287 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: a full time role doing that at Georgia, but he 288 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,359 Speaker 1: did it enough for us to see, Okay, yeah, he's 289 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: he can have production here. He has the tools to 290 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: be a really good stand up pass rusher. Hey, Matt 291 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: did Georgan Jenkins help you with your latest mock draft. 292 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: You have Nick Chubb going to the Jets in the 293 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: fourth round. I think the Green and White faithful will 294 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: be rejoicing if that does happen to his job was 295 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: a highly successful running back with the Dogs. Yeah, and 296 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: a great inside outside runner. Schub reminds me of like 297 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: a poor man's Frink Gorse and not a whole of 298 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: fame run back like Frank Row. I'm not saying that, 299 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: but someone who has that running style, and he might 300 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: not have the speed to turn the corner and hit 301 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: those home runs, but I think in inside those scheme 302 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: he has such good vision. He's gonna be able to 303 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: pick his spots. He's gonna be able to get those 304 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: tough yards. He tested very well to combine better than 305 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: I expected uh and shows that he still has even 306 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: though he might not have the great home run speed 307 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: after the knee injury, but he does still have the agility, 308 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: to strength the vision. I think he's gonna be a 309 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: very good player if he can just get to the 310 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: right type of team that's going to use him and 311 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: really play to history were fast, and it's you most sorry. 312 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: Green's about the offensive line right now as far as 313 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: this class is concerned, because you are one of the 314 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: guys who has put Iowa's James Daniels on my radar 315 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: at the center position, because everybody is talking about Billy 316 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: Price for a long time, and unfortunately he got up 317 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: to the bench in Indianapolis suffered that partially torn pack 318 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: that I believe will require surgery. Right now, Den Orlando 319 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: brown Head, by all accounts a tough Indianapolis, And uh, 320 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people mixed on this tackle class. 321 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: And then finally there are some folks met and you 322 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: know this better than me yor say, Quentin Nelson is 323 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: the cleanest prospect in the entire draft. Yeah, it's a 324 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: weird offensive line class because the interior old line is 325 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: so good, whether it's Quintin Nelson and Billy Price. He 326 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: did have surgery, he told me last night. He's gonna 327 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: be out about three months. James Daniels declares early from Iowa, 328 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: and he is just so smooth playing center. Will Hernandez, 329 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: I'd say a wind from Georgia gonna kick down from 330 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: left tackle to play guard in the NFL. It's a 331 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: very good interior offensive line class, but you do get 332 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: to those tackles, and some people think that text and 333 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: is Connor Williams maybe should be a guarden because he 334 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: has thirty three inch arms. I still haven't to think 335 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: he could play tackle. You're absolutely right, Orlando Brown's Oklahoma 336 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: have the worst combine performance I've ever seen. Barn And 337 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: not just a five a five forty, but fourteen reps 338 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: on the bench. What a nineteen inch divert. I mean, 339 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: it was just if you even just look at the numbers, 340 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: people who had like the percent test rate that he 341 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: did don't get drafted. And this was a guy everyone 342 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: was saying was a bushground pick not that long ago. 343 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: I was not a huge fan of his tape. I 344 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: went and watched him in person a couple of times. 345 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think he could move very well. I thought 346 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: he could move a little better than he did an Indy. 347 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: So he needs to redeem himself at his pro day. 348 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: But on the inside, this offensive line class is very good. 349 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: I think on the outside you almost have to have 350 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: a bit of an imagination. Mike mcglenchie from Notre Dame 351 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: is a plug and play ready guy, but he struggled 352 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: with speed rushers. You can watch the Miami or Georgia 353 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: games for Notre Dame. He really struggled there, So he's 354 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: probably gonna have to play on the right side. Colton 355 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Miller from u C L a great athlete. But there's 356 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: a reason Josh Rosen was hurt all the time. It's 357 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of pressure coming off the left 358 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: side of that line. So Culton nor even needs a 359 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: lot of work despite the fact that he tested well 360 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: and looks like a great athlete. Yeah, you said he's 361 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: got to get in the weight room a little bit. 362 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: Looks a little too lean. Yeah, it looks like a 363 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: basketball players still a lot a little bit before I 364 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: touch on the receivers with you real quick, Matt is 365 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: someone like Orlando Brown? What do you have benefited from 366 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: just not participating in the combine and just saving all 367 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: the drills for his pro day after weighing in and 368 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: being measured. I think there's two schools of thought there. 369 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: You can look at it that way and said, no, 370 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to test to also let me save 371 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: it for the pro day. But the problem is then 372 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: if you bomb the pro day, you don't have a 373 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: chance to redeem yourself, so it's almost better when you're 374 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: not and half way order is not an athletic guy 375 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: to have as many chances as possible to approve it. 376 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: So you know he runs up five eight five in 377 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: in Indie. He's gonna run a little bit faster pro day, 378 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: you would hope, and so it's probably calculated. It might 379 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: also be the fact where you know he just he 380 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: knows he's not going to test you below and he 381 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: can say, hey, like my film was good. I was 382 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: an All American. I didn't give up a fact. Who 383 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: cares how fast I run a Ford? He go up 384 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: to the film, So he's in a tricky spot. Hopefully 385 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: his agents are doing some damage control. You know, I'm 386 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: fascinated by this year's Receiving Corps because you look at 387 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: all the draft pundits, including yourself, and you see calver 388 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: ban Lee is universally number one, and then two to 389 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: five is different depending upon whose list you're looking at. 390 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: So I wanted to know, based on last week's performance 391 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, who are some of the guys that you 392 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: think have separated themselves from the pack, maybe had a 393 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: good week or a bad week to improve and does 394 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Equanimius st. Brown have the best name in the NFL 395 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: draft this year? Well, that's a load of question, I'm 396 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, man. I like the Scotland 397 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: Sutton kid from No. I like Courtland sudden lot and 398 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: he had a good week. I was gonna say, guys, 399 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: the players that receiver who had good weeks where it 400 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: doesn't help us because it was all those guys that 401 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: are stuck in that here after Calvin Ridley. So like 402 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: you wanted to see, okay, who's going to separate from 403 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: Courtlet Sutton and Christian Kirky d J. Moore. The problem 404 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: is they all did say well, so we're still kind 405 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: of stuck in this conundrum of waiting to see it. 406 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: Even Gian came from Clinton who kind of became an 407 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: afterthought this year because they just didn't have the passing 408 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: production for him to really showcase himself. He also ran well. 409 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: So it gets to a point where you kind of 410 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: wanted to combine to be a separator, and it just 411 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: wasn't because all those guys did perform well. Cointletd Sunt 412 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: has excellent size and the combine was so important for 413 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: him because he needed to show that he could move. 414 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: He didn't go to the Senior Bowl, so the Combine 415 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: kids chance to prove that he had the speed to 416 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: stray the field and separated from guys. And he's a 417 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: big jude. That a run as well as he did, 418 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I was really really impressive and it might get him 419 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: into the push range. Where are you right now with 420 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? Sam Donald did not throw Baker Mayfield as 421 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: you said, Hey, let's stop those comparisons to guys like 422 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because he didn't run that fast. But a 423 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: lot of people would argue he is the best pure 424 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: passer as far as accuracy in the draft. Josh Allen, 425 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: perhaps maybe his stock is up. Lamar Jackson I thought 426 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: was cool. Form my perspective. He said, listen, I'm a quarterback. 427 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to run. People know I can run. 428 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: I want to show you what I can do throwing 429 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: the football, and I know either not even workout. But 430 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: I liked his approach. Where do you stand on all 431 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: these guys? And finally about Mason Rudolph, I know that's 432 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: a guy you like there in the Middlewest. Yeah, I 433 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: really do. It's like a second round guy who could 434 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: be a startup for you. It's a weird quarterback clack 435 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: because I could run down a list with you guys 436 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: of all the things I like about HISS quarterback because 437 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: they all have a really good trait and really good quality. 438 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: And on the flip side, we could run down a 439 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: list of all the things I don't like because about 440 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: these guys, because they all have a really big question mark. 441 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: It's a it's a really fascinating year, unlike you know 442 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: last year with Travisky and Watson, the ma homes. Sam 443 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: Donald had twenty two turnovers and has a funky throwing motion. 444 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: And Rosen has been hurt a lot and might not 445 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: be the most well liked guy by you know, coaches 446 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: and owners and some of the older crowd. Baker's short, 447 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: not explosively athletic, and he can be a little fiery 448 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: off the field, and all that. Josh Allen, you know, 449 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: was not accurate in college, so you gotta phase out 450 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: if you could fix that. LaMarche action also not very 451 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: accurate in college. And a guy who does his style 452 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: as a predominant runner, does that translate to the NFL. 453 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: So there are big questions about all of them. But 454 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: I liked this quarterback class. I think there are six 455 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: guys that we've taught it's about to deserve to be 456 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: drafted in the top fifty or fifty five picks, and 457 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: some of that is supplied first demand. These teams are 458 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: going to draft quarterbacks early. You guys might do one 459 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: of them. And it's also it's just become the economics 460 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: of the NFL that if you're drafting early, you get 461 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback because you can build as we've seen so 462 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: many of these teams do, like look at what the 463 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: Rams are doing. You have, even with a quarterback selected 464 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: first overall inexpensive compared to how much you're gonna pay 465 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: the you know, Kirk Cousins of the world. So you 466 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: can really load up a roster. And there's no one 467 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: that I would put at that level of Jared Golf 468 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: or Carson Wentz. They're probably all closer to where I have, 469 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson and Tropisky last year. But if they 470 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: can get in the right situations, each of these guys 471 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: could be a very good starter in the NFL. It's 472 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: so much about situation. You know, what kind of offensive scheme, 473 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: who do they have a left tackle? Who they have 474 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Do they have Tis early behind them? 475 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: Those types of things really helped out what Tom Bowl said. 476 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: The Jets have to have multiple plans at the quarterback position. 477 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: Mike mccagnet has continued to reiterate throughout the off season 478 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: all options on the table. As we start free agency 479 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: week here, the Las Vegas odds have Minnesota one to three, 480 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: don Ver Broncos ten to three, the Jets five to one, 481 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: in the Arizona Cardinals fifteen and one to get the 482 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: services of Kirk Cousins. Adam Schefter said, those four teams 483 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: are in the mix. You actually talked to some folks. 484 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: You think that this could come down to Minnesota and 485 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: the Jets. What is your overall take on Kirk Cousins 486 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: in the situation he is facing this week? One of 487 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: you guys him, I might have to talking. I might 488 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: pay back pretty good. My vacation this summer might be 489 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: paid for a real soon. Uh. I like Kirk Cousins. 490 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: I love him. In the Jeremy Bates offense, I mean 491 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: this is, you know, an offense that is close to 492 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: my heart as a someone who grew up a forty 493 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: Niners fan and wanted to be the next Bill Walsh. 494 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, so much of this often is from that foundation, 495 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: and we've seen Kirk Cousins played in that scheme, you know, 496 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: under Kyle Shanahan, under Sean McVeigh. We've seen him have success. 497 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: So you don't have to have an imagination to wonder, 498 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, how Cousin's gonna stick in this offense, because 499 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: we've seen him do it, and we've seen him had 500 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: a high level of success. And I think one thing 501 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: that you know, in Washington, he had that success sometimes 502 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: without a great supporting cast. You know, yes, they had 503 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: a good offensive line, but they've never had a featured 504 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: running back who can take pressure off Cousins, kind of 505 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: like we saw Leonard Burnette do for Black Bartles this year, 506 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: or like we see Ty Gurley do with Jeric Goff. 507 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: And even a receiver, there's been a bit of a 508 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: revolving door as they kind of, you know, retool that 509 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps so often. So I even think that 510 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: cousins best football might still be ahead of him, just 511 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: because he's gonna get somewhere where number one he feels 512 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: wanted and sided at number two where you can build 513 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: a plan around him to give him actual receivers, a 514 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: deep receiving core where you can you know, if you 515 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: have that quarterback knee checked off, you can get a 516 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: good running back to help him out. So I'm a 517 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: Cousin's guy. I was way too low on him coming 518 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: out on Michigan State. I've tried to make amends for 519 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: that sense, but I do believe he's the type of 520 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: quarterback that can win and with a good supporting cast, 521 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: I think he could win a Super Are you way 522 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: too low on him? I don't remember what what did 523 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: you have him? I think I had like a third 524 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: round grade on him and he ended up becoming a 525 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: really good daughter. So that's a quarterback class. I mean 526 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: that was That was Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins. So 527 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: those are the two guys I'll always remember being way 528 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: too low. Listen, you're not. Come on, you're not. You'd 529 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: be a little bit hard on yourself. You're not alone. 530 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Let's consider where they went in the draft and the other. 531 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: My other thing is I remember interview and I know 532 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: you were down there that year because we have been 533 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: going there for multiple years. Ethan Uh actually represented us 534 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: down the Jets three sixty team downtomobile this year. But 535 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: I remember interviewing both him and Russell Wilson and being 536 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: so impressed with their intellect and their maturity those guys 537 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: coming out because we often forget, you know, as we 538 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: continue to get older, Matt is that these guys are 539 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: so young when they come out. But those guys had 540 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: something upstairs that you're like, yeah, you can see them 541 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: being the guy, but physically can they be the guy? Yeah? 542 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: And I actually that year was my first combine and 543 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: I got somehow got access to go and watch them 544 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: warm up and like go through their script basically what 545 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: they were going to be the next day. It's been 546 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: several hours with them, and just remember their trainer pushing 547 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: me so hard, like you's got to get these guys 548 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: up in your rankings so good. And if he doesn't 549 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: remind me of that every time, I feel so in 550 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: your mind, what should the Jets if that is their 551 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: plan a which external speculation as sworld for months now 552 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: that Jets would have some kind of interest in Kirk Cousins, 553 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: if that's the plan of any signs elsewhere, what do 554 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: you think should be there alternative plans or I shouldn't 555 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: even say alternative plans, but there are other plans because, 556 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: like I think, it's all connected free agency in the draft, 557 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: like you were talking about before, it is all connected, 558 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: and you have to have the contingency plans if it 559 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: doesn't work out. So I think one really smart thing 560 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: That's Runt Office did was trading Chagrin Richardson and getting 561 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: not only Tremaine Curse, but that extra second round pick. 562 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Because now you do have, like you guys said earlier, 563 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: the draft capital that if you fall in love with 564 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks Mission's class, now you have the 565 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: ammunition to move up from six to get one. You know, 566 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: even if Cleveland takes Sam Donald at one and say 567 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: Kwan goes to and Chub goes three, the Browns might 568 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: be willing to trade out of four and you can 569 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: get in front of Denver and you know, to move 570 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: up two spots. It's not gonna cost the time. So 571 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: now you have the draft capital to be a say 572 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: to make a move, but not completely mortgage your future 573 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: and give up, you know, the opportunity to get still 574 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: some starters out of the Shears draft. So I would 575 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: look at it that way. You know, this is a 576 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: quarterback class with four guys who have been projected to 577 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: go top ten with Sam Donald, Josh Rose and Josh 578 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: Allen and Baker Mayfield all expected to be drafted pretty early. 579 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: They all have starter trades, franchise quarterback trades. It's just 580 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: a matter of kind of vetting the weaknesses they all 581 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: bring to the table. But I think it's six you're 582 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: in the spot where you could get a quarterback this fall. 583 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 1: But they also have the room now to move up 584 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: if they need to. If the Jets answer a quarterback 585 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: is indeed through the draft and either with that sixth 586 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: pick or let's say, like you said, they trade up 587 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: to four. Who do you think schematically makes sense for 588 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: the Jets and who would you like to see in 589 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: New York come April. Yeah, well, I think I think 590 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield does spit that offense. Well, he's accurate. Um, 591 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing to get lost with him, 592 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: it's just how accurate he is. He operates will on 593 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: the move, so you can, you know, get him the 594 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: outside of the pocket a little bit. He doesn't turn 595 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: the ball over, He's smart with the football thematically, he 596 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: could be a fit, and I think Josh Allen could 597 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: be as well, he doesn't need some things cleaned up. 598 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: If you're going to draft either of those guys, who 599 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: would be best to have a free agent veteran like 600 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Josh McCown back because they're not going to be ready 601 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: to step right in. There's going to be a learning curve. 602 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: But I think either guys fits really well just because 603 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: of the mobility that they put to the table. I 604 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: think Josh's arm is gonna allow whomever drafts him to 605 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: really open up their offense because you know, he effortlessly 606 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: throws those deep outs and the comebacks that some of 607 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: the other guys aren't able to reach like he can. 608 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 1: So I could see either one of those players been 609 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: a really good fit. Yeah. I thought Alan Stock was 610 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: really gonna fall after the Senior Ball and I know 611 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: you guys were down there watching practices and things like that. 612 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: It sounded like he hadn't okay week where is in Indianapolis. 613 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: I think he really helped himself. And now we're talking 614 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: about all of a sudden, I don't know if Josh 615 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: Allen is gonna last be on the top six or 616 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: seven texts in the draft. Yeah, and he might not 617 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: make a touch for the first pick you know, yeah, 618 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: I know you think you think it's gonna be Donald 619 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: or Allen. Right there, Shake has done enough to throw 620 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: himself into that conversation. I can remember a couple of 621 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: months ago running through a Jets mock draft with my 622 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: coach KNYA Rogers, and it was like, man stick on 623 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: my father the Jets. How amazing would that be? And 624 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: now it's like, there's no way he's gonna make it 625 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: to six. So unfortunately, because you guys do have a 626 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: lot of fun with him. He's a great player and 627 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: a great person, but and he grew up a Jets fan. 628 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: He grew up a Jets fan. Yeah, that's why we 629 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: didn't even waste any of your time today talking about 630 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: se Kwan because he's a beast, and he had a 631 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: fantastic combine and he's a great kid, and I just 632 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: can't see him being around after the top three overall 633 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: selections in the draft. You gotta follow this guy at 634 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft Scout. You gotta listen to his podcast, 635 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: Stick the Football. I'm a big I P A fan, 636 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: so I gotta ask you a couple of questions. I 637 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: know you gave somebody a recommendation about Bolivard Tank seven. 638 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: There's a brewery in Brooklyn six points resident. You ever 639 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: had that before? I haven't got y R s I N. 640 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: They're in cans. It is fantastic, very smooth, high alcohol percentage, 641 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: but a smooth beor nice hops. More of a Northeastern 642 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: I PM. I'm not gonna let Mac go until he 643 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: tells me his favorite name in the two NFL draft 644 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: class based based on a name perspective, because the two 645 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: that stick out to me or Equanimius st. Brown and 646 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Hercules motta Offa. Okay, okay, I figured, yeah, alright, that's 647 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: that's all I got. That's that's draft chat here on 648 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: the Official Jet podcast again, like he said, Follow Matt 649 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: Miller on Twitter, NFL Draft Scout, Listen to his podcast 650 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Stick to Football. It gets me through traffic in the morning. Matt, 651 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Yeah, I heard, uh, I heard your 652 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: name was almost Hercules Mataafa. Pardon me, Hercules Mataafa is 653 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: one of the players in this year's draft, and that's 654 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: who Matt Miller believes, as you just told us, is 655 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: the best name in the draft, along with e Q st. 656 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Brown of Notre Dame, who has said that three times today. Greens. 657 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about free agency here. When I look at 658 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: free agency right now, Greens, you look internally first, and 659 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: some of the unrestricted free agents that Jets have right 660 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: now with expiring contracts include Morris Claiborne, toa Mario Davis, 661 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: Josh McCown, and Austin Seferian Jenkins. So those are the 662 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: four guys at the top of my list internally who 663 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real intrigued to see where are they going? 664 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: Are they gonna stay here or maybe elsewhere? Well? Who 665 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: are you in tregue by externally? Because I have my 666 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: eyes on a couple of guys. One guy in particular 667 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: is Allen Robinson. Played for the Jaguars since he was 668 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: drafted in the second round out of Penn State, and 669 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: he only played three plays this season. I mean, his 670 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: stat line this year is one catch for seventeen yards 671 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: because he tore his a c L. But this is 672 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: someone who's gonna be twenty five years old. He's a 673 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: big receiver, right Yeah. At fourteen and fifteen when he 674 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: had his breakout year fourteen hundred yards and he led 675 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: the NFL with fourteen touchdowns and could last year's free 676 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: agency market like an, Alshon Jeffrey kind of set the 677 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: precedent for someone like Robinson because Jeffrey had a down year, 678 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: he signed a one year contract with fourteen million dollars 679 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: with the Eagles and then he signed an extension for 680 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: mega millions of dollars. Could Allen Robinson go that route 681 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: or is he gonna be someone that wants a little 682 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: more sustainability and get the multi year dalah my sons. 683 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: I don't know Allen Robinson, even though I just think 684 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: the I'm just prefacing by the saying at if I'm 685 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: coming out and I'm a free agent, I'm looking for fit, 686 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. What's my role in offense going to be? 687 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: So if you're Allen Robinson, I don't know if Alshon 688 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Jeffrey is gonna be a barometer for him because I 689 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: think he might have multiple suitors. I don't recall Jeffries 690 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: path and free agency so to speak, but I'm gonna 691 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: be surprised if he doesn't sign a multi year deal. 692 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: Also because like I said before, he's gonna be twenty 693 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: five years old. Jeffrey is closer to thirty. The only 694 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: negative part I mean Jeffrey bett On himself and he 695 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: won big. The other side of that is someone like 696 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: Terrell Pryor, who had a good year in Cleveland. He 697 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: signed up with the Washington Redskins last season Kirk Cousins 698 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: as his quarterback, and he didn't he was hurt, he 699 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: didn't have a great year, and now he's looking for 700 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: a new home again. So there's obviously two edges to 701 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: the sword. Yeah. And another receiver who was kind of 702 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: struggled last year in l A, but he got in 703 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: the end zone a number of times, as you wrote 704 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: about Ethan, was Sammy Watkins. Because I've seen him in 705 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: Buffalo take over games at times, and he is tremendous 706 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: speed and I think he can go underneath as well. 707 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: He's one to watch because I think he's only he's 708 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: only twenty four years old. I still think he's got 709 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: a high ceiling in the National Football League. But let's 710 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: go back to the cornerback position. I'm gonna switch back 711 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball. We'll talk about 712 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: Trueman Johnson. He's a guy who's gonna be out there 713 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: because the Rams have been so active so far in 714 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: this offseason, setting up parameters of deals to acquire not 715 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: only just Marcus Peters, but it keep delaying. What the 716 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: Rams are doing is I think rather rare in the 717 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: NFL nowadays is trading for guys and all their moves 718 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: won't become official until two days from now at the 719 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: league year, but their secondary is gonna look completely different. 720 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: And they got rid of Robert Quinn, who's now a 721 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: member of the Miami Dolphins. Could they be saving up 722 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: money and clearing room for an extension for someone like 723 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald I I guess we'll find out. And remember 724 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: that Wade Phillips coached Keep to leave in Denver and 725 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Keep to leave apparently Ian Rappaport reported this that to 726 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: Leave said he only wants to go to places New 727 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: England at l A because of way Philips. So just 728 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: sticking on the corner back position, is you mentioned Trueman Johnson. 729 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: Denard Wilson has been with him since they've been in St. 730 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: Louis together. They've been in l A as a part 731 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: of the Rams. Denard Wilson came from the Rams and 732 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: now obviously he's the defensive backs coach of the Jets. 733 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, there's there's a tie. Well yeah, but 734 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: I'll say, is that I think people sometimes they try 735 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: to connect the dots tour. But to your point, he 736 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: knows all strength, he also knows all his weaknesses, So 737 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: we have no idea what denied Wilson. Thanks that Truemy Johnson, 738 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: we should say that Truemaine Johnson played very well under Dar. 739 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Trueman Johnson in his six year 740 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,479 Speaker 1: career has sixty seven past defenses and eighteen interceptions. He's 741 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: someone that has quietly gotten the franchise tag two years 742 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: in a row, similar to someone like Kirk Cousins. So 743 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: he's made a lot of money the past two years 744 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: and this is the time that he's finally able to 745 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: test the market. Someone that's i'd say a tear below him, 746 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a small ticket guy is 747 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: Redskins corner Bashad Brelan. Four years. He's been starting for 748 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins since he's been drafted out of Clemson. 749 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: He has sixty pass defenses, so he's very active. I've 750 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: only watched him playing a couple of times. But maybe 751 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: someone like that, who is a lesser name on the 752 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: market could be someone that Mike mccagnen wants to address 753 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: in free agency. Rap report did tell us that he 754 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: would not be surprised at off Claiborne landed back here 755 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: with the test. He told both of us on numerous 756 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: occasions that he loved it here. He thought he played 757 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: his best professional ball here. He really liked Stannard Wilson. 758 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: He's fond Todd Bowls you talk about Morris Clayborne wanted 759 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: to be a member of the Jets long term. He said, quote, 760 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: why would I want to pack up and leave when 761 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: everything I want is right here. Someone else that's very 762 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: vocal about his desire to stay here is Austin Safarian Jenkins. 763 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: He loves New York City. He's told me he actually 764 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: just likes going to the city and people watching, no headphones, 765 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: just looking around. That's regardless. He had a career year 766 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: last year. He rededicated himself. He became what he described 767 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: as a rookie because this was the first year to him, 768 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: in his words, that he was truly focused and dedicated 769 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: to the game, and he refounded his love for the game. 770 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: But if the Jets decide to go elsewhere, there's a 771 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: couple of guys too, you know we should match it too. 772 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: And I know it doesn't get a lot of pub 773 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: right now, but Wesley Johnson's restricted free agent. He did 774 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: a nice job after taking over from Nick Mangol. Jonathan 775 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: Harrison also his backup what restricted free agents, so the 776 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: Jets could be here Wednesday without a really true center 777 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: on the roster. Uh Dakota Dozer is a guy who's 778 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: worked inside at both guard and center, but he's not 779 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: restrict to free agent too, so the center position is 780 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: an area we have to watch as well. The guy 781 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: who's getting the most buzz in media circles right now 782 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: is a young player for the Baltimore Ravens who made 783 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: a name for himself last year, Ryan Jensen. And not 784 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: only that, but he's a guy that again you don't 785 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: know because he had one year at center he succeeded, 786 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: So what's the market for him gonna look like if 787 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: you're looking at other players? Weston Richburg of the Crosstown Giants, 788 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: it's a great point. Was hurt for the majority of 789 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: last year, but before that he was playing at a 790 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: high level. Spencer Long the Redskins Center. He's another name 791 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are talking about. And not 792 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: only that, but the older gentleman for the Los Angeles 793 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: Rams John Sullivan. So there are a lot of options 794 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: there if the Jets decide to go elsewhere. So much 795 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: to be decided. And that finally, we gotta talk about 796 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: Josh McConnell just real quickly. McCown ultimate professional career year 797 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: under the Jets quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. Well, Jeremy Bates 798 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: is now the offensive play caller. Tremendous respect between those 799 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: two guys. Remember they not only worked here last year 800 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: and had success, but they did some good things as 801 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: McCown was the backup to Jake Cutler in Chicago, so 802 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: their relationship goes back a long ways. So when the 803 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: Jets say they have multiple options to the quarterback position, 804 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: obviously that's the main headline moving forward here in free 805 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: agency and in the draft. One of those options could 806 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: be Josh McCown. So I don't want people at home 807 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: to say, well, Josh McCown, that would be a bad option, 808 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: because Josh McCown hit a career year last year. He's 809 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: also expressed to a number of external media outlets that 810 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: he would be comfortable mentoring a young quarterback here. So 811 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: the Jets could go that option of McCown and drafting one, 812 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: adding them to the already two quarterbacks they have on 813 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: the roster and Petty. I totally agree with you. I 814 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: think that whatever plans A and B are, let's say 815 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: one is through free agency and once through the draft. 816 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that the drop off in talent are 817 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: that different. Because let's say the Jets go out and 818 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: free agency, they get their quarterback. All right, that's great 819 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: now that you can focus on other positions in the draft. 820 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: On the flip side, you sign McCown, who, like you said, 821 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 1: had a career year last year. You add pieces around 822 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: the offense and the defense, and then all of a sudden, 823 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: like Matt Miller said, maybe at six, if you make 824 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: a trade up in the draft, you get your guy. 825 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: Now you have McCown, who you know it will be 826 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: a good mentor to whoever walks in the door as 827 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: a rookie. And I don't think that either is a 828 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: bad option. It's just two different methods, two different approaches 829 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: of how to get your guy for the long term. 830 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: So it'll be very interestings about the fall. It's gonna 831 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: be a fun week. Let the madness begin.