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Speaker 1: we all want to be. Welcome to the restless ones.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan Strickland. As you may know, I've spent the

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Speaker 1: demystifying everything from massive parallel processing to advanced robotics and

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Speaker 1: the concept of smart cities. What makes a smart city?

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Speaker 1: Our guest today, Tyler's Fetech has an answer. Tyler has

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Speaker 1: and learning that the solution wasn't technology, it was literally

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Speaker 1: are dieharded tech fans like myself that sometimes there are

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Speaker 1: other approaches that are far more effective. Can you give

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Speaker 1: us any other examples of how smart city approaches are

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Speaker 1: going to have a positive impact on, say, civilian life.

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Speaker 1: I struggled with this question only because there are so

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Speaker 1: many examples, and that's part of the challenge of of

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Speaker 1: the space. I think, is it one in five people

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Speaker 1: have some sort of disability in the United States, and

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Speaker 1: just navigating cities, getting from a to B if you're

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Speaker 1: is really difficult. So we've done some work with accessibility

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Speaker 1: whether you're mapping the conditions of sidewalks to get to

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Speaker 1: worked with a technology to develop a navigation system for

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Speaker 1: indoor spaces for the blind and visually impaired. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to go to the museum or if you

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Speaker 1: want to go to the library, you can still experience

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Speaker 1: that space by knowing exactly where you are to the

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Speaker 1: centimeter and knowing what's around you and describing that environment

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Speaker 1: to you as you walk through it. And so that's

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Speaker 1: one way that whether you're able bodied, or if you're

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Speaker 1: young or you're old, you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: technologies that can help the ease of access and around cities,

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Speaker 1: that can help people in a lot of ways. But

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Speaker 1: that's just one that I like to highlight because it's

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Speaker 1: one that people don't think about very often, right. I

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Speaker 1: think of augmented reality as any technology that enhances the

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Speaker 1: experience of you being in a physical place, and that

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Speaker 1: can include things like audio cues and even tactile feedback,

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Speaker 1: haptic feedback. That if you take that narrow view of

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Speaker 1: what augmented reality is and you're just thinking, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: smart glasses, you're really not tapping into the potential of

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Speaker 1: that concept, not just technology that's just the manifestation of

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Speaker 1: the concept, but the actual concept of enhancing the area

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Speaker 1: around you in some way, whether that might be for

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Speaker 1: entertainment purposes, educational navigation. The applications are limitless. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: are so many cool ways you can use augmented reality.

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Speaker 1: But we've got a couple of companies, one that that

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Speaker 1: uses it to visualize new development. So if you're a

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Speaker 1: citizen and you're concerned about the new development happening across

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Speaker 1: the street, you can actually visualize it in real life

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Speaker 1: to see what it would look like and provide your

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Speaker 1: feedback that way. There's lots of very tangible ways that

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Speaker 1: governments or utilities can use these technologies if they're focused

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Speaker 1: on trying to do it right. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the key is so many governments are just focused on

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Speaker 1: providing the services the way they are today. It takes

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Speaker 1: purposeful and intentional action and process to do it differently.

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Speaker 1: Before saying goodbye to Tyler, I had to ask him

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Speaker 1: one more thing, what is a project you personally are

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Speaker 1: very excited about? Well, our new five G project really

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Speaker 1: really excited about building a five G network that we

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Speaker 1: can use to test and develop products. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: targeting startups and entrepreneurs that are owned or hire people

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Speaker 1: of color, Indigenous women, people that are underrepresented, including people

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Speaker 1: with disabilities, so that they have access to infrastructure to

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Speaker 1: do testing, to understand these technologies and to grow here

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Speaker 1: in Colorado. So we're gonna be beginning that work later

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Speaker 1: this year and are excited to start welcoming our first

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Speaker 1: companies hopefully in Q one of next year, and that

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Speaker 1: will really get us into this economic development space where

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of cities have an interest in

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Speaker 1: right being the home for a growing company and also

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Speaker 1: away for us to ensure that these solutions that are

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Speaker 1: influencing our infrastructure of tomorrow are being built by the

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Speaker 1: people that have been left behind by the infrastructure of today.

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Speaker 1: Excellent answer, Tyler, Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: This has been a really informative and and fun conversation

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I've really enjoyed it. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: digging into this topic with me, and I hope your

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Speaker 1: listeners enjoy it. Tyler Speedech opened my eyes when it

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Speaker 1: comes to smart cities. He has a realistic perspective on

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Speaker 1: what it takes to incorporate technological solutions into city infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: Any effort to do so is going to require a

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Speaker 1: lot of collaboration and innovation. The problems aren't necessarily simple,

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Speaker 1: and getting all parties on the same page can be

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Speaker 1: hard too, But the need for those solutions is apparent,

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Speaker 1: and the payoff of implementing them is incalculable. I think

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Speaker 1: of it as empowering citizens who then contribute to society,

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Speaker 1: at which point everyone benefits. I'm excited to learn more

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Speaker 1: about the five G network Tyler's team intends to build

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Speaker 1: as a testing ground for all sorts of other technologies.

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Speaker 1: I expect that foundation of connectivity will help produce some

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Speaker 1: amazing products. Some of those will likely become commercial products,

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Speaker 1: perhaps ones that don't actually have a real place in

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Speaker 1: smart city applications. Others might exclusively be useful for the

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Speaker 1: maintenance and operation of a city. As we've seen many

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Speaker 1: times throughout this series, it's connect to it that transforms

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Speaker 1: limited technologies into powerful tools. Having the ability to channel

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Speaker 1: large amounts of data with negligible delay is a real

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Speaker 1: game changer. I hope that Tyler's SPEEDEC and his team

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Speaker 1: are able to shepherd new technologies into the smart city

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Speaker 1: space that will ultimately make life better for citizens. Thanks

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Speaker 1: again to Tyler for joining the show and sharing his

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Speaker 1: experience and mission. Be sure to tune into future episodes

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Speaker 1: of The Restless Ones where I'll speak with other leaders

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Speaker 1: in the tech space to see what lessons they've learned

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Speaker 1: and their approach to leadership. I'll see you then. Tea

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