WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 012222 How do I Become a Politician? ft. Leezah Sun (Part B)

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<v Speaker 1>And now vote my might back.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like that journal time, we just strikes with waters

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<v Speaker 2>from headquarters behind him and the border.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning into civic side around your host

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<v Speaker 1>Rams's job. Q Ward is out today, but he will

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<v Speaker 1>be back with us next week. Our sit in guest

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<v Speaker 1>is Lisa's Sun, and please stick around because we do

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot more to talk about. So far, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been discussing political party gatekeeping and really revisiting a topic

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<v Speaker 1>that we discussed last week, which is, you know why

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<v Speaker 1>black people tend to vote Democratic rather than Republican. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those that didn't get a chance to tune into

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<v Speaker 1>that show, the answer was, effectively, it's the lesser of

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<v Speaker 1>two evils. And we were very critical of both parties,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but the Democratic Party in particular, because we

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<v Speaker 1>had to illuminate that we understood that the Democrats have

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<v Speaker 1>not always been there for us. But today Lisa has

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<v Speaker 1>been helping us understand that there are even deeper, deeper

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<v Speaker 1>levels there and what we can do about it, which

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<v Speaker 1>effectively is to engage in the political process. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>continue that conversation, let's discuss how to become a better ally.

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<v Speaker 1>So today I got a story from Insider dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>and this highlights a guy named Timothy Walmsey Walmsley, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I say it, and he is the judge who

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced the three men who were found guilty for Ahmud

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<v Speaker 1>Aubrey's murder. One thing that he did that Q and

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked this week is he made the courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>sit in silence for one minute before reading their sentences

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<v Speaker 1>to put into context how long they chased Aubrey. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason we thought this was important is because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that this act illuminates the thrust, the real gravity of

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<v Speaker 1>the statement black lives matter. We all know what a

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<v Speaker 1>black person looks like, and I do believe that most

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<v Speaker 1>human beings recognize that you know, a person matters. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>matter matters. Anything you can interact with in a physical

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<v Speaker 1>space matters. But it's that word life lives that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is lost on a lot of people. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that him taking a moment and having the courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>pause for that one minute, what they had to do

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<v Speaker 1>was imagine the terror that a mode Aubrey needlessly went

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<v Speaker 1>through before he was executed. He was actually chased for

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<v Speaker 1>close to five minutes, but the judge only took one

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<v Speaker 1>and in that moment, everyone had to stop and they

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<v Speaker 1>could only think about his last moments. That was what

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<v Speaker 1>the order was, and then he handed down his sentince.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that for all of us, just to

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<v Speaker 1>take a moment, you know, when we're angry, when we

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<v Speaker 1>lost sight whatever, to take a moment and to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what it is that we're dealing with human lives. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that could go a long way for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we wanted to shout out Judge Timothy Walmsley

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<v Speaker 1>for taking a moment in his courtroom, which we don't

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<v Speaker 1>find very often, to give a little bit of life

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<v Speaker 1>back to that black life. So once again shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to you all. Right back to the lecture at hand.

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<v Speaker 1>As Snoop Dogg would say, you mentioned earlier, pack funding.

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<v Speaker 3>Or lobbyists, corporations, special interests.

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<v Speaker 1>All these things. I want to know what is pack funding?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Pack funding is usually the case of an organization, a

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<v Speaker 3>political organization that has like a filing of a C

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<v Speaker 3>four where they can endorse political candidates as well as

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<v Speaker 3>providing independent expenditures or financial you know, donations. And these

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<v Speaker 3>packs can be corporate influenced or not, so it depending

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<v Speaker 3>on your social platform. If you are for women's pay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, equal pay here what we say, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the pack is more supportive for women's issues, right, then

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<v Speaker 3>that will be a pack that will support a candidate

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<v Speaker 3>with that platform. But unfortunately a lot of these packs

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<v Speaker 3>are more influenced by special interests in corporations, so it

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<v Speaker 3>won't be really favorable for grassroots or social issues that

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<v Speaker 3>will benefit the communities unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, another term this is I believe this is necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>You use the term lobbyists and then you use the

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<v Speaker 1>term special interest Well we'll talk about both of those

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<v Speaker 1>in that order. So lobbyists, what is.

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<v Speaker 3>That a lobbyist? You had to like register with the

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<v Speaker 3>state Secretary office to say that you're a lobbyists so

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<v Speaker 3>that you have permission or access to talk to the

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<v Speaker 3>elective officials on behalf of you know, organizations like the

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<v Speaker 3>school or the union or whatever. But again, a lobbyist

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<v Speaker 3>can also come from the automobile industry. They can stand

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<v Speaker 3>lobbyists of their representative to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>To the is a lobbyist like a lawyer, then.

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<v Speaker 3>They can be.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be and they go and speak with an

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<v Speaker 1>elected representative and explain the interest of the group.

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<v Speaker 3>That they're representing. So again, these lobbyists can be corporate

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<v Speaker 3>influenced like industry of the poultry industry, the beef industry,

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<v Speaker 3>the agriculture industry, they all have lobbyists.

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<v Speaker 1>Now special interest.

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<v Speaker 3>Special interests you know, for me, I think special interests

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<v Speaker 3>or the lobbyists are very similar. But a special interest

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<v Speaker 3>group will again will be a nonprofit organization as well

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<v Speaker 3>as well as corporation that have a very particular focus,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, special interest group that that benefits corporation very specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>They're a little bit more specific at least that's my interpretation.

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<v Speaker 3>So they can be again any particular could be in academia,

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<v Speaker 3>like academia research, like they come out with something and

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<v Speaker 3>then corporation can come in and patent it and then

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<v Speaker 3>have special interests you know, promoting it through our elect

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<v Speaker 3>officials at the state capital or the federal mostly at

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<v Speaker 3>the federal level to convince them this is a good thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, or talking to the FDA are various, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>administration's departments to push laws that will favor them to

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<v Speaker 3>make this chemical or this product. And the laws. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just give you example like Cosmetics and they have

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<v Speaker 3>over thirteen hundred ingredients that span thirteen hundred ingredients they

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<v Speaker 3>cannot use in their cosmetic But here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>guess how many ingredients that we are not allowed to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Many eleven because of powerful lobbyists.

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<v Speaker 3>Or exactly because they have heavily influenced are elected fish,

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<v Speaker 3>especially the FDA or other administration effects of food Drug

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<v Speaker 3>administration to say that this chemical is safe. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is dangerous and it's not that dangerous. Well, the

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<v Speaker 3>case may be, and of course the pollution. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the list can go on and on. These people that

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<v Speaker 3>represent corporation, they can be specialists, special interests, they can

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<v Speaker 3>be lobbyists, and they can also support a pack.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you now. You seem to

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot about all of these terms that get

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<v Speaker 1>thrown around on news shows, and you know all these

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of things all the time. I mean, you also

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot about political party gatekeeping. And if this

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<v Speaker 1>is too personal, just say you don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But I have to ask, have you personally

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<v Speaker 1>experienced any political party gatekeeping? Have you personally come up

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<v Speaker 1>against these powerful interests yourself? And if so, what have

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<v Speaker 1>you done or what do you plan on doing to

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<v Speaker 1>change that. As an elective representative, what could you possibly do?

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<v Speaker 1>First question is has it happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Has any political party gatekeeping, anybody tried to sabotage your

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<v Speaker 4>bid anything like that that you're aware of.

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<v Speaker 3>Any candidate that runs for public office under the Democratic

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<v Speaker 3>Party or the Republican Party or any party has experienced gatekeeping.

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<v Speaker 1>So the answer is yes, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't really see it as a victimization event,

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<v Speaker 3>but of a huge learning curve because when you're running

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<v Speaker 3>for the very first time, you don't have all the answers.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have all the answers, so you're going into

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<v Speaker 3>this machine that's been around much longer than you have,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's far more powerful and has more money. So

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be very quick to learn what is

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<v Speaker 3>going on. And the very first impact that I've received

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<v Speaker 3>was the fact that I wasn't endorsed and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>very well known because I was such a new face.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't a mayor, I wasn't a city council, I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even a school board. I just showed up and

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<v Speaker 3>ran for public office right and said here I am

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<v Speaker 3>like well more like an L and an S. But

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<v Speaker 3>it was just something that I was very grateful to

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<v Speaker 3>have because I won't be sitting here talking to you

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<v Speaker 3>about it. So one of the biggest gate keeping for

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<v Speaker 3>me personally, Again this is just my opinion. If you

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<v Speaker 3>spoke to another candidate, it will be a different story

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<v Speaker 3>or different experience. But for me, the biggest gatekeeping was

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<v Speaker 3>to run within a incumbent. When you're running against your

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<v Speaker 3>own party, that's where the gatekeeping is the most aggressive,

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<v Speaker 3>because when you're running against a party, you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get more support if you're not challenged, if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>challenged within your own district, like you're the only Democratic

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<v Speaker 3>candidate and there's no all.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democratic support exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, that is the gatekeeping that I personally experience,

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<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately for the community, that doesn't give you the

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<v Speaker 3>option to clean house within your part. Just like we

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<v Speaker 3>went back to say, the Republicans we call them racists,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the Democrats we call them polite racism, you know, racist, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because we don't have that option to clean house. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's not democracy because when they don't serve our community,

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<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't have a dominant presence because that power is

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<v Speaker 3>still with the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sir Well said, okay, so how about this. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it that elected officials make as a salary?

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, the salary is another form of gatekeeping.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me explain please, for Arizona and for other states.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at the base salary for a state

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<v Speaker 3>elected officials, it can range from the low twenties to

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<v Speaker 3>the high one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah, that's the range. Low twenty thousand, low twenty thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>like one twenty two thousand dollars per year yep. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you can go to a full time job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, five months. You know when the session, you know

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<v Speaker 3>when you guys are in session from January through May. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's for the whole year.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA. Okay, So if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to be an elect official and in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Arizona, you will get paid twenty four thousand dollars. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the question is why is it so low? Because we

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<v Speaker 3>were in a red state for so long they kept

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<v Speaker 3>it low because if you think about it, if you

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<v Speaker 3>just think about it, you have a poor teacher salary

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<v Speaker 3>that wants to be in elect officials to change our

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<v Speaker 3>school system and put more funding to interms.

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<v Speaker 1>I think teachers make more than that, but if.

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<v Speaker 3>They take this job, they can't be a teacher. They

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<v Speaker 3>had to give up their jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna make less money than a teacher would to

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<v Speaker 1>do work that has a much greater impact and far more,

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<v Speaker 1>far wider reaching effects.

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<v Speaker 3>Bingo. So going back to.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying teachers are not interested as much as

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<v Speaker 1>they perhaps could be because the salary being so low

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<v Speaker 1>as a deterrent. You're thinking that's artificially So that's artificially

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<v Speaker 1>the case.

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<v Speaker 3>It was designed this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And in addition, if you were to be elected, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and you still making twenty four thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna make that, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are your chances of staying clean?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Okay? I see, So now there's a wide open

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<v Speaker 1>for corporate that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So again going back to the lesser too evil. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care what you call yourself. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 3>you're Republican or Democrat. But if you have the strength

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<v Speaker 3>to hold off temptation and you really want to do

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<v Speaker 3>right by the people your community, then please run for

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<v Speaker 3>public office. You are the perfect candidate, perfect candidate. I

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<v Speaker 3>implore you, those who are listening, to consider running for

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<v Speaker 3>even something small like a school board, because if you

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<v Speaker 3>really care about your family and your community, you will

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<v Speaker 3>be prepared to know what is coming. And the gatekeeping

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<v Speaker 3>discussion needs to be talked more, especially, you know, at

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<v Speaker 3>a larger level, like the visual level in the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's almost like a elephant in the room, and

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<v Speaker 3>being Lisa's son, that's all I go after. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>only thing I like to talk about is the elephant

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<v Speaker 3>in the room. And there are things that are in

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<v Speaker 3>place in our political party where once you are elected,

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<v Speaker 3>you can also be voted out by a majority of

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<v Speaker 3>your seat mates, and that is pretty much implemented at

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<v Speaker 3>all state levels in the federal levels, like they can

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<v Speaker 3>vote each other out, you know, if you cross a

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<v Speaker 3>certain line.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's interesting that you mentioned running

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<v Speaker 1>for a you know, school board, a position on the

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<v Speaker 1>school board. I'm assuming that's what. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>actual name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So for colleges, community colleges, they have a board.

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<v Speaker 1>Boards as well, and those are elected.

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<v Speaker 3>Positions exactly that you can run.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, obviously on this show, Q and I

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<v Speaker 1>and then doctor Westernberg whenever she's available, will come and

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<v Speaker 1>will have these conversations about critical race theory, and we

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<v Speaker 1>try to share exactly what critical race theory is with

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners so that our listeners can then take it

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<v Speaker 1>out and have informed conversations with the folks that they

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<v Speaker 1>interact with. The marketing of the fear over a critical

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<v Speaker 1>race theory is masterful. And if we stop and think

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<v Speaker 1>about how education can somehow be a bad thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've sold it so well to let's be honest, the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of Americans. You know, polling shown that most people

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<v Speaker 1>are afraid of it, not for what it is, but

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<v Speaker 1>for what it's marketed as. And you know, just while

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<v Speaker 1>we're here, the idea that, okay, if anybody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ashamed of their past, right, this is the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's marketed. I'm going to get my little rant off here.

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<v Speaker 1>If I can thank you, I appreciate it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that anybody could be ashamed of their past, that's

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<v Speaker 1>asinine of their inherited past. Let's call it that that

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<v Speaker 1>a little white child would learn about their history and

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<v Speaker 1>be ashamed of the country that they live in. When

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<v Speaker 1>I myself know my past that I came from actual slaves,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nothing to be proud of. And yet all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It just was what it was. I've never not been

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<v Speaker 1>proud of it. I've never been proud of it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. I'm here now. I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>I know it. It gives me context. It informs me

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<v Speaker 1>about the world in which I live, It informs my

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<v Speaker 1>steps moving forward. It allows me to raise my children

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<v Speaker 1>appropriately so that they're aware that they're being raised in

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<v Speaker 1>a hostile environment. Not that that's bad or good. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's bad. Inherently it's bad, but you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>that we're picking on this country or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have to understand where we came from. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's marketed as though somehow it's going to adversely affect

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<v Speaker 1>white children to learn about the history of this country,

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<v Speaker 1>right And I think that you hit the nail right

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<v Speaker 1>on the head. If you listening to our voices right now,

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<v Speaker 1>are as outraged over that as I am, perhaps in

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<v Speaker 1>your communities, if you're listening to us in Oregon, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to us in Florida, if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>us in California, Alaska, Alaska, even you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any stations in Alaska yet, but I'm working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I'm going. But perhaps even a position on

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<v Speaker 1>your school board, your local school board, being involved in

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<v Speaker 1>your community to the degree that most Republican folks are

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<v Speaker 1>at the minimum, could perhaps challenge the narrative. We could

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<v Speaker 1>offset the fear mongering that exists. White supremacy is a beast,

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<v Speaker 1>and it loves to hold on to power, and it

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<v Speaker 1>loves to scare everyone exactly, and it's it's up to

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<v Speaker 1>you listening to us, to help us change that. Bit

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<v Speaker 1>by bit, we'll get there together. Hey, we love you,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to add on to what you're what

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<v Speaker 3>you just said about, you know, running for school board,

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<v Speaker 3>because here in Arizona, our own Maricopa County Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 3>has a program for those who are interested for running

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<v Speaker 3>school board. I don't have the contact information, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you just go look up for a Maricopa County Democratic

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<v Speaker 3>Party website, they have something there about training for school

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<v Speaker 3>board positions. Because critical race theory, the right did an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing job and and exposing and marketing that you know, scarcity,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and fear mongol, because it does work, it's

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<v Speaker 3>very effective. But if the truth be told, fear scarcity

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<v Speaker 3>does not have enduring, lasting effect. I know that people

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<v Speaker 3>think that, well, those emotions are real. Yes it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're not endearing. What really lasts, what's the most

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<v Speaker 3>powerful emotion is peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to them, say that, go ahead, keep on because

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<v Speaker 1>if you look.

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<v Speaker 3>At the whistleblower for Facebook, she testified at a congressional

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<v Speaker 3>here at the federal level, stating that Facebook used fear

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<v Speaker 3>to get more likes and more responses with social media

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<v Speaker 3>in general, but what they didn't tell you is that yes,

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<v Speaker 3>people were pressing like more, but they also fail to

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<v Speaker 3>say that people also respond to peace. That's what draws

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<v Speaker 3>people back over the long run. If you want to

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<v Speaker 3>do a long distant race and you want to choose

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<v Speaker 3>your weapon, is it going to be fear or peace?

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<v Speaker 3>Choose peace because there's endurance. Endurance wins.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said that. That's such a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little nugget man that belongs that can stand

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<v Speaker 1>on your own. Thank you for peace.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I think as an elected official, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's very very important to run a campaign on peace,

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<v Speaker 3>on unity, because that's where the strength will come from.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't ever be afraid to tackle the elephant in

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<v Speaker 3>the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've explained why people should get involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the political process. One thing that we haven't really peeled

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<v Speaker 1>away as much as I'd like to before we finish

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<v Speaker 1>this part of the segment. How are elections funded. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say I just decide that I want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>politician of some sort. Where do I and I go

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<v Speaker 1>and register put my name to have my name on

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot? Or how do I even do that? Does

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<v Speaker 1>it take money to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>So every state we have a not every state, but

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<v Speaker 3>most of the state has a commissioner the assist and

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<v Speaker 3>clean election. And our state has a very very low

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<v Speaker 3>budget compared to the one in New York, which is

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<v Speaker 3>like over one hundred thousand. We get like maybe seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>thousand in the primary and then additional funding for the general.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think overall, I think that comes out to

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<v Speaker 3>be like forty five thousand. Again, this is just an estimate,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm only speaking for Arizona. But running clean you

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<v Speaker 3>rely on more of a grassroot platform. Therefore community volunteering,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're not paid, they're not paid, they come out

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<v Speaker 3>for you. And if you have someone that's an incumbent,

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<v Speaker 3>because they have so many relationship with special interests in

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<v Speaker 3>packs and corporation. They can pay a campaign manager, they

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<v Speaker 3>can pay a field director, they can pay volunteers to

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<v Speaker 3>get signatures for you. They can pay you twelve, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty dollars per signature because you need a certain amount

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<v Speaker 3>of signature to get onto the ballot, so the amount

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<v Speaker 3>can be enormous for incumbent and if you're a newcomer,

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<v Speaker 3>the best bet right now is a grassroot movement on

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<v Speaker 3>a clean slate so that you don't rely on corporate money.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are the options under the Democratic Party and

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican they have something similar, but they get more funding.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, well, thank you for that. Now it's

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<v Speaker 4>time for us to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>To that way. Black History Fact today. This has come

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<v Speaker 1>up a couple of times for me in the past

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. But we're going to be reading an

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<v Speaker 1>excerpt from a letter from doctor Martin Luther King. We're

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<v Speaker 1>spending this time, as we do, celebrating the life and

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<v Speaker 1>the legacy of a doctor King, and I just pulled

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<v Speaker 1>a small piece from the letter, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you today because the roots of this

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<v Speaker 1>very program that you're listening to right now can be

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<v Speaker 1>found in this letter, in this excerpt, and so without

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<v Speaker 1>further delay, we'll start. Of course, there is nothing new

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<v Speaker 1>about this kind of civil disobedience. It was evidenced sublimely

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<v Speaker 1>in the refusal of Shadrack, me Shack and Abednego to

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<v Speaker 1>obey the laws of Nebeknezzer on the ground that a

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<v Speaker 1>higher moral law was at stake. That's from the Bible, Shadrack,

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<v Speaker 1>Nushach and Abednego. If you don't know, it was practiced

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<v Speaker 1>superbly by the early Christians who were willing to face

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<v Speaker 1>hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks rather

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<v Speaker 1>than submit to certain unjust laws of the Roman Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>To a degree, academic freedom is reality because Socrates practiced

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<v Speaker 1>civil disobedience. In our own nation, the Boston Tea Party

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<v Speaker 1>represented a massive act of civil disobedience. This is doctor

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<v Speaker 1>King talking about his protests, his marches, and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes on, We should never forget that everything Adolph

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler did in Germany was quote legal end quote, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was quote

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<v Speaker 1>illegal end quote. It was illegal to aid and comfort

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<v Speaker 1>a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure

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<v Speaker 1>that had I lived in Germany at that time, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have aided it and comforted my Jewish brothers. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget doctor King was a Christian minister. If today I

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<v Speaker 1>lived in a communist country where certain principles dear to

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying

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<v Speaker 1>that country's anti religious laws. I must make too honest

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<v Speaker 1>confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I

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<v Speaker 1>must confess that over the past few years I have

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<v Speaker 1>been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost

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<v Speaker 1>reached the regrettable conclusion that the negro's great stumbling block

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<v Speaker 1>in his stride toward freedom is not the white citizen's

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<v Speaker 1>counselor or the klu klux klanner, but the white moderate

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<v Speaker 1>who is more devoted to quote order end quote than

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<v Speaker 1>to justice, who prefers a negative piece which is the

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<v Speaker 1>absence of tension, to a positive piece, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>presence of justice, who constantly says quote, I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree

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<v Speaker 1>with your methods of direct action.

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<v Speaker 4>End quote. Hold on, there shouldn't be out there burning buildings.

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<v Speaker 4>They shouldn't be right. They shouldn't be looting. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>anybody sounds like that. I don't agree, of course I

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<v Speaker 4>agree with the goal, but they should they should do

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<v Speaker 4>this right. Kaepernick shouldn't kneel that's the flag. He shouldn't kneel.

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<v Speaker 4>He should do it at a different time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me continue. This person who paternalistically believes he

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<v Speaker 1>can set the timetable for another man's freedom, who lives

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<v Speaker 1>by a mythical concept of time, and who constantly advises

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<v Speaker 1>the Negro to wait for a quote more convenient season

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm

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<v Speaker 1>acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. This is

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<v Speaker 1>doctor King, y'all. I have a dream.

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<v Speaker 4>Little black boys and little white girls are going to

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<v Speaker 4>play together.

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<v Speaker 1>And he has some.

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<v Speaker 4>He has some, He has some spicy to eat that day,

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<v Speaker 4>because he was speaking the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll continue. I had hoped that the white moderate would

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<v Speaker 1>understand that the law, that law and order exists for

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of establishing justice, and that when they fail

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<v Speaker 1>in this purpose, they become the dangerously structured dams that

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<v Speaker 1>block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that

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<v Speaker 1>the white moderate would understand that the press tension in

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<v Speaker 1>the South is a necessary phase of the transition from

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<v Speaker 1>an obnoxious, negative peace in which the negro passively accepted

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<v Speaker 1>as unjust plight, to a sub substantive and positive piece,

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<v Speaker 1>in which all men will respect the dignity and worth

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<v Speaker 1>of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct

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<v Speaker 1>action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring

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<v Speaker 1>to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive.

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<v Speaker 1>We bring it out in the open where it can

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<v Speaker 1>be seen and dealt with, Like a boil that can

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<v Speaker 1>never be cured so long as it is covered up,

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<v Speaker 1>but must be opened with all its ugliness, to the

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<v Speaker 1>natural medicines of air and light. Injustice must be exposed,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light

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<v Speaker 1>of human consciousness and the air of national opinion before

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it can be cured. One more, Baba, become a better ally.

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<v Speaker 1>If I may ask, if you're listening to my voice,

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<v Speaker 1>if you listen to you and to me every week,

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<v Speaker 1>one more ask go read this entire letter. This letter

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<v Speaker 1>was written long before me and probably you were born.

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<v Speaker 1>And see how relevant this letter is right now as

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<v Speaker 1>we take this time as a country to celebrate the

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>man that wrote these words, Let's not forget his lesser

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<v Speaker 1>known speeches and writings everyone loves to talk about. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a Dream, a brilliant speech, and moved us forward

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<v Speaker 1>as a people, as brothers and sisters. I'm eternally grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for it, as I'm sure are you. But let's not

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<v Speaker 1>forget that he wasn't just a passive person that was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to take beatings and dogs biting him in water hoses,

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<v Speaker 1>and watch this happen to the members of his race

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<v Speaker 1>and members of other races that were marching with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He called it out, he called it by name, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said the white moderate was the great stumbling block,

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<v Speaker 1>the white moderate. That's why this show is here. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some people who think just like you and me.

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<v Speaker 1>They want the world to be a better place, they

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<v Speaker 1>want the world to be more kind, but they're afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to engage. And for some reason, everybody thinks they're a hero,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody lives in terror. It is the most confusing

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever seen. And so today I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>leave you with that one more time the MLK. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a letter from a Birmingham jail. Now that is about

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<v Speaker 1>all the time that we're going to have for today, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>So one more time. I'm your host, Ramsey's job. Big

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to my co host, my man fifty grand

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<v Speaker 1>and my guy who couldn't be here today, q Ward,

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<v Speaker 1>who will be back in the saddle next week. As

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<v Speaker 1>we proceed, I definitely want to thank my guest Lisa's Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>who has announced that she is running one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let everyone know what you're doing and how they can support.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, my name is Leadsa's son. I'm running for

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<v Speaker 3>the State House of Representative here in Arizona District LD

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, and if you want to hear and know

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<v Speaker 3>more about me, you can visit my website Son for A,

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<v Speaker 4>Com and anything else that you need. Hit the website

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<v Speaker 1>Download this in all previous episodes, make a donation, and

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<v Speaker 1>until next week, y'all peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like we had to leave these brothers the Fabulous

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<v Speaker 2>Sally Show, where you go from travels speak to you

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<v Speaker 2>from sunlight to move bust on stage, like gonna find

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<v Speaker 2>some go my mic back. You'd like that journalist, My

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<v Speaker 2>journalist too, and can strike back home