Speaker 1: And now vote my might back.
Speaker 2: You're like that journal time, we just strikes with waters
Speaker 2: from headquarters behind him and the border.
Speaker 1: If you're just tuning into civic side around your host
Speaker 1: Rams's job. Q Ward is out today, but he will
Speaker 1: be back with us next week. Our sit in guest
Speaker 1: is Lisa's Sun, and please stick around because we do
Speaker 1: have a lot more to talk about. So far, we've
Speaker 1: been discussing political party gatekeeping and really revisiting a topic
Speaker 1: that we discussed last week, which is, you know why
Speaker 1: black people tend to vote Democratic rather than Republican. And
Speaker 1: for those that didn't get a chance to tune into
Speaker 1: that show, the answer was, effectively, it's the lesser of
Speaker 1: two evils. And we were very critical of both parties,
Speaker 1: of course, but the Democratic Party in particular, because we
Speaker 1: had to illuminate that we understood that the Democrats have
Speaker 1: not always been there for us. But today Lisa has
Speaker 1: been helping us understand that there are even deeper, deeper
Speaker 1: levels there and what we can do about it, which
Speaker 1: effectively is to engage in the political process. Before we
Speaker 1: continue that conversation, let's discuss how to become a better ally.
Speaker 1: So today I got a story from Insider dot com,
Speaker 1: and this highlights a guy named Timothy Walmsey Walmsley, that's
Speaker 1: how I say it, and he is the judge who
Speaker 1: sentenced the three men who were found guilty for Ahmud
Speaker 1: Aubrey's murder. One thing that he did that Q and
Speaker 1: I really liked this week is he made the courtroom
Speaker 1: sit in silence for one minute before reading their sentences
Speaker 1: to put into context how long they chased Aubrey. The
Speaker 1: reason we thought this was important is because I think
Speaker 1: that this act illuminates the thrust, the real gravity of
Speaker 1: the statement black lives matter. We all know what a
Speaker 1: black person looks like, and I do believe that most
Speaker 1: human beings recognize that you know, a person matters. You know,
Speaker 1: matter matters. Anything you can interact with in a physical
Speaker 1: space matters. But it's that word life lives that I
Speaker 1: think is lost on a lot of people. And I
Speaker 1: think that him taking a moment and having the courtroom
Speaker 1: pause for that one minute, what they had to do
Speaker 1: was imagine the terror that a mode Aubrey needlessly went
Speaker 1: through before he was executed. He was actually chased for
Speaker 1: close to five minutes, but the judge only took one
Speaker 1: and in that moment, everyone had to stop and they
Speaker 1: could only think about his last moments. That was what
Speaker 1: the order was, and then he handed down his sentince.
Speaker 1: And I think that for all of us, just to
Speaker 1: take a moment, you know, when we're angry, when we
Speaker 1: lost sight whatever, to take a moment and to understand
Speaker 1: what it is that we're dealing with human lives. I
Speaker 1: think that could go a long way for all of us.
Speaker 1: And so we wanted to shout out Judge Timothy Walmsley
Speaker 1: for taking a moment in his courtroom, which we don't
Speaker 1: find very often, to give a little bit of life
Speaker 1: back to that black life. So once again shout out
Speaker 1: to you all. Right back to the lecture at hand.
Speaker 1: As Snoop Dogg would say, you mentioned earlier, pack funding.
Speaker 3: Or lobbyists, corporations, special interests.
Speaker 1: All these things. I want to know what is pack funding?
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Pack funding is usually the case of an organization, a
Speaker 3: political organization that has like a filing of a C
Speaker 3: four where they can endorse political candidates as well as
Speaker 3: providing independent expenditures or financial you know, donations. And these
Speaker 3: packs can be corporate influenced or not, so it depending
Speaker 3: on your social platform. If you are for women's pay,
Speaker 3: you know, equal pay here what we say, and then
Speaker 3: the pack is more supportive for women's issues, right, then
Speaker 3: that will be a pack that will support a candidate
Speaker 3: with that platform. But unfortunately a lot of these packs
Speaker 3: are more influenced by special interests in corporations, so it
Speaker 3: won't be really favorable for grassroots or social issues that
Speaker 3: will benefit the communities unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Okay, another term this is I believe this is necessary.
Speaker 1: You use the term lobbyists and then you use the
Speaker 1: term special interest Well we'll talk about both of those
Speaker 1: in that order. So lobbyists, what is.
Speaker 3: That a lobbyist? You had to like register with the
Speaker 3: state Secretary office to say that you're a lobbyists so
Speaker 3: that you have permission or access to talk to the
Speaker 3: elective officials on behalf of you know, organizations like the
Speaker 3: school or the union or whatever. But again, a lobbyist
Speaker 3: can also come from the automobile industry. They can stand
Speaker 3: lobbyists of their representative to talk.
Speaker 1: To the is a lobbyist like a lawyer, then.
Speaker 3: They can be.
Speaker 1: They can be and they go and speak with an
Speaker 1: elected representative and explain the interest of the group.
Speaker 3: That they're representing. So again, these lobbyists can be corporate
Speaker 3: influenced like industry of the poultry industry, the beef industry,
Speaker 3: the agriculture industry, they all have lobbyists.
Speaker 1: Now special interest.
Speaker 3: Special interests you know, for me, I think special interests
Speaker 3: or the lobbyists are very similar. But a special interest
Speaker 3: group will again will be a nonprofit organization as well
Speaker 3: as well as corporation that have a very particular focus,
Speaker 3: you know, special interest group that that benefits corporation very specifically.
Speaker 3: They're a little bit more specific at least that's my interpretation.
Speaker 3: So they can be again any particular could be in academia,
Speaker 3: like academia research, like they come out with something and
Speaker 3: then corporation can come in and patent it and then
Speaker 3: have special interests you know, promoting it through our elect
Speaker 3: officials at the state capital or the federal mostly at
Speaker 3: the federal level to convince them this is a good thing,
Speaker 3: you know, or talking to the FDA are various, you know,
Speaker 3: administration's departments to push laws that will favor them to
Speaker 3: make this chemical or this product. And the laws. So
Speaker 3: I'll just give you example like Cosmetics and they have
Speaker 3: over thirteen hundred ingredients that span thirteen hundred ingredients they
Speaker 3: cannot use in their cosmetic But here in the United States,
Speaker 3: guess how many ingredients that we are not allowed to use.
Speaker 1: Many eleven because of powerful lobbyists.
Speaker 3: Or exactly because they have heavily influenced are elected fish,
Speaker 3: especially the FDA or other administration effects of food Drug
Speaker 3: administration to say that this chemical is safe. All right,
Speaker 3: this is dangerous and it's not that dangerous. Well, the
Speaker 3: case may be, and of course the pollution. I mean,
Speaker 3: the list can go on and on. These people that
Speaker 3: represent corporation, they can be specialists, special interests, they can
Speaker 3: be lobbyists, and they can also support a pack.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you now. You seem to
Speaker 1: know a lot about all of these terms that get
Speaker 1: thrown around on news shows, and you know all these
Speaker 1: sorts of things all the time. I mean, you also
Speaker 1: know a lot about political party gatekeeping. And if this
Speaker 1: is too personal, just say you don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it. But I have to ask, have you personally
Speaker 1: experienced any political party gatekeeping? Have you personally come up
Speaker 1: against these powerful interests yourself? And if so, what have
Speaker 1: you done or what do you plan on doing to
Speaker 1: change that. As an elective representative, what could you possibly do?
Speaker 1: First question is has it happened?
Speaker 4: Has any political party gatekeeping, anybody tried to sabotage your
Speaker 4: bid anything like that that you're aware of.
Speaker 3: Any candidate that runs for public office under the Democratic
Speaker 3: Party or the Republican Party or any party has experienced gatekeeping.
Speaker 1: So the answer is yes, correct.
Speaker 3: But I don't really see it as a victimization event,
Speaker 3: but of a huge learning curve because when you're running
Speaker 3: for the very first time, you don't have all the answers.
Speaker 3: You don't have all the answers, so you're going into
Speaker 3: this machine that's been around much longer than you have,
Speaker 3: and it's far more powerful and has more money. So
Speaker 3: you have to be very quick to learn what is
Speaker 3: going on. And the very first impact that I've received
Speaker 3: was the fact that I wasn't endorsed and I wasn't
Speaker 3: very well known because I was such a new face.
Speaker 3: I wasn't a mayor, I wasn't a city council, I
Speaker 3: wasn't even a school board. I just showed up and
Speaker 3: ran for public office right and said here I am
Speaker 3: like well more like an L and an S. But
Speaker 3: it was just something that I was very grateful to
Speaker 3: have because I won't be sitting here talking to you
Speaker 3: about it. So one of the biggest gate keeping for
Speaker 3: me personally, Again this is just my opinion. If you
Speaker 3: spoke to another candidate, it will be a different story
Speaker 3: or different experience. But for me, the biggest gatekeeping was
Speaker 3: to run within a incumbent. When you're running against your
Speaker 3: own party, that's where the gatekeeping is the most aggressive,
Speaker 3: because when you're running against a party, you're going to
Speaker 3: get more support if you're not challenged, if you're not
Speaker 3: challenged within your own district, like you're the only Democratic
Speaker 3: candidate and there's no all.
Speaker 1: The Democratic support exactly.
Speaker 3: So for me, that is the gatekeeping that I personally experience,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately for the community, that doesn't give you the
Speaker 3: option to clean house within your part. Just like we
Speaker 3: went back to say, the Republicans we call them racists,
Speaker 3: and then the Democrats we call them polite racism, you know, racist, right,
Speaker 3: because we don't have that option to clean house. And
Speaker 3: that's not democracy because when they don't serve our community,
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have a dominant presence because that power is
Speaker 3: still with the people.
Speaker 1: Well, sir Well said, okay, so how about this. What
Speaker 1: is it that elected officials make as a salary?
Speaker 3: So for me, the salary is another form of gatekeeping.
Speaker 3: And let me explain please, for Arizona and for other states.
Speaker 3: If you look at the base salary for a state
Speaker 3: elected officials, it can range from the low twenties to
Speaker 3: the high one hundred.
Speaker 1: Utah, that's the range. Low twenty thousand, low twenty thousand,
Speaker 1: like one twenty two thousand dollars per year yep. And
Speaker 1: then you can go to a full time job.
Speaker 3: Yes, five months. You know when the session, you know
Speaker 3: when you guys are in session from January through May. Yes,
Speaker 3: and that's for the whole year.
Speaker 1: WHOA. Okay, So if you.
Speaker 3: Want to be an elect official and in the state
Speaker 3: of Arizona, you will get paid twenty four thousand dollars. Now,
Speaker 3: the question is why is it so low? Because we
Speaker 3: were in a red state for so long they kept
Speaker 3: it low because if you think about it, if you
Speaker 3: just think about it, you have a poor teacher salary
Speaker 3: that wants to be in elect officials to change our
Speaker 3: school system and put more funding to interms.
Speaker 1: I think teachers make more than that, but if.
Speaker 3: They take this job, they can't be a teacher. They
Speaker 3: had to give up their jobs.
Speaker 1: You're gonna make less money than a teacher would to
Speaker 1: do work that has a much greater impact and far more,
Speaker 1: far wider reaching effects.
Speaker 3: Bingo. So going back to.
Speaker 1: So you're saying teachers are not interested as much as
Speaker 1: they perhaps could be because the salary being so low
Speaker 1: as a deterrent. You're thinking that's artificially So that's artificially
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 3: It was designed this way.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.
Speaker 3: And in addition, if you were to be elected, okay,
Speaker 3: and you still making twenty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna make that, right.
Speaker 3: So what are your chances of staying clean?
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay? I see, So now there's a wide open
Speaker 1: for corporate that's right.
Speaker 3: So again going back to the lesser too evil. I
Speaker 3: don't care what you call yourself. I don't care if
Speaker 3: you're Republican or Democrat. But if you have the strength
Speaker 3: to hold off temptation and you really want to do
Speaker 3: right by the people your community, then please run for
Speaker 3: public office. You are the perfect candidate, perfect candidate. I
Speaker 3: implore you, those who are listening, to consider running for
Speaker 3: even something small like a school board, because if you
Speaker 3: really care about your family and your community, you will
Speaker 3: be prepared to know what is coming. And the gatekeeping
Speaker 3: discussion needs to be talked more, especially, you know, at
Speaker 3: a larger level, like the visual level in the mainstream media.
Speaker 3: But it's almost like a elephant in the room, and
Speaker 3: being Lisa's son, that's all I go after. That's the
Speaker 3: only thing I like to talk about is the elephant
Speaker 3: in the room. And there are things that are in
Speaker 3: place in our political party where once you are elected,
Speaker 3: you can also be voted out by a majority of
Speaker 3: your seat mates, and that is pretty much implemented at
Speaker 3: all state levels in the federal levels, like they can
Speaker 3: vote each other out, you know, if you cross a
Speaker 3: certain line.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's interesting that you mentioned running
Speaker 1: for a you know, school board, a position on the
Speaker 1: school board. I'm assuming that's what. I don't know the
Speaker 1: actual name.
Speaker 3: Yes, So for colleges, community colleges, they have a board.
Speaker 1: Boards as well, and those are elected.
Speaker 3: Positions exactly that you can run.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, obviously on this show, Q and I
Speaker 1: and then doctor Westernberg whenever she's available, will come and
Speaker 1: will have these conversations about critical race theory, and we
Speaker 1: try to share exactly what critical race theory is with
Speaker 1: our listeners so that our listeners can then take it
Speaker 1: out and have informed conversations with the folks that they
Speaker 1: interact with. The marketing of the fear over a critical
Speaker 1: race theory is masterful. And if we stop and think
Speaker 1: about how education can somehow be a bad thing, and
Speaker 1: they've sold it so well to let's be honest, the
Speaker 1: majority of Americans. You know, polling shown that most people
Speaker 1: are afraid of it, not for what it is, but
Speaker 1: for what it's marketed as. And you know, just while
Speaker 1: we're here, the idea that, okay, if anybody's going to
Speaker 1: be ashamed of their past, right, this is the way
Speaker 1: it's marketed. I'm going to get my little rant off here.
Speaker 1: If I can thank you, I appreciate it. But the
Speaker 1: idea that anybody could be ashamed of their past, that's
Speaker 1: asinine of their inherited past. Let's call it that that
Speaker 1: a little white child would learn about their history and
Speaker 1: be ashamed of the country that they live in. When
Speaker 1: I myself know my past that I came from actual slaves,
Speaker 1: that's nothing to be proud of. And yet all my life.
Speaker 1: It just was what it was. I've never not been
Speaker 1: proud of it. I've never been proud of it. Just
Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm here now. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: I know it. It gives me context. It informs me
Speaker 1: about the world in which I live, It informs my
Speaker 1: steps moving forward. It allows me to raise my children
Speaker 1: appropriately so that they're aware that they're being raised in
Speaker 1: a hostile environment. Not that that's bad or good. I
Speaker 1: mean it's bad. Inherently it's bad, but you know, not
Speaker 1: that we're picking on this country or anything like that.
Speaker 1: We just have to understand where we came from. But
Speaker 1: it's marketed as though somehow it's going to adversely affect
Speaker 1: white children to learn about the history of this country,
Speaker 1: right And I think that you hit the nail right
Speaker 1: on the head. If you listening to our voices right now,
Speaker 1: are as outraged over that as I am, perhaps in
Speaker 1: your communities, if you're listening to us in Oregon, if
Speaker 1: you're listening to us in Florida, if you're listening to
Speaker 1: us in California, Alaska, Alaska, even you know, we don't
Speaker 1: have any stations in Alaska yet, but I'm working on it.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm going. But perhaps even a position on
Speaker 1: your school board, your local school board, being involved in
Speaker 1: your community to the degree that most Republican folks are
Speaker 1: at the minimum, could perhaps challenge the narrative. We could
Speaker 1: offset the fear mongering that exists. White supremacy is a beast,
Speaker 1: and it loves to hold on to power, and it
Speaker 1: loves to scare everyone exactly, and it's it's up to
Speaker 1: you listening to us, to help us change that. Bit
Speaker 1: by bit, we'll get there together. Hey, we love you,
Speaker 1: all right, Please go ahead.
Speaker 3: I just want to add on to what you're what
Speaker 3: you just said about, you know, running for school board,
Speaker 3: because here in Arizona, our own Maricopa County Democrat Party
Speaker 3: has a program for those who are interested for running
Speaker 3: school board. I don't have the contact information, but if
Speaker 3: you just go look up for a Maricopa County Democratic
Speaker 3: Party website, they have something there about training for school
Speaker 3: board positions. Because critical race theory, the right did an
Speaker 3: amazing job and and exposing and marketing that you know, scarcity,
Speaker 3: you know, and fear mongol, because it does work, it's
Speaker 3: very effective. But if the truth be told, fear scarcity
Speaker 3: does not have enduring, lasting effect. I know that people
Speaker 3: think that, well, those emotions are real. Yes it is,
Speaker 3: but they're not endearing. What really lasts, what's the most
Speaker 3: powerful emotion is peace.
Speaker 1: Talk to them, say that, go ahead, keep on because
Speaker 1: if you look.
Speaker 3: At the whistleblower for Facebook, she testified at a congressional
Speaker 3: here at the federal level, stating that Facebook used fear
Speaker 3: to get more likes and more responses with social media
Speaker 3: in general, but what they didn't tell you is that yes,
Speaker 3: people were pressing like more, but they also fail to
Speaker 3: say that people also respond to peace. That's what draws
Speaker 3: people back over the long run. If you want to
Speaker 3: do a long distant race and you want to choose
Speaker 3: your weapon, is it going to be fear or peace?
Speaker 3: Choose peace because there's endurance. Endurance wins.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that. That's such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: That's a little nugget man that belongs that can stand
Speaker 1: on your own. Thank you for peace.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think as an elected official, I think
Speaker 3: it's very very important to run a campaign on peace,
Speaker 3: on unity, because that's where the strength will come from.
Speaker 3: And don't ever be afraid to tackle the elephant in
Speaker 3: the room.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've explained why people should get involved in
Speaker 1: the political process. One thing that we haven't really peeled
Speaker 1: away as much as I'd like to before we finish
Speaker 1: this part of the segment. How are elections funded. Let's
Speaker 1: say I just decide that I want to be a
Speaker 1: politician of some sort. Where do I and I go
Speaker 1: and register put my name to have my name on
Speaker 1: the ballot? Or how do I even do that? Does
Speaker 1: it take money to do that?
Speaker 3: So every state we have a not every state, but
Speaker 3: most of the state has a commissioner the assist and
Speaker 3: clean election. And our state has a very very low
Speaker 3: budget compared to the one in New York, which is
Speaker 3: like over one hundred thousand. We get like maybe seventeen
Speaker 3: thousand in the primary and then additional funding for the general.
Speaker 3: So I think overall, I think that comes out to
Speaker 3: be like forty five thousand. Again, this is just an estimate,
Speaker 3: and I'm only speaking for Arizona. But running clean you
Speaker 3: rely on more of a grassroot platform. Therefore community volunteering,
Speaker 3: so they're not paid, they're not paid, they come out
Speaker 3: for you. And if you have someone that's an incumbent,
Speaker 3: because they have so many relationship with special interests in
Speaker 3: packs and corporation. They can pay a campaign manager, they
Speaker 3: can pay a field director, they can pay volunteers to
Speaker 3: get signatures for you. They can pay you twelve, fifteen,
Speaker 3: twenty dollars per signature because you need a certain amount
Speaker 3: of signature to get onto the ballot, so the amount
Speaker 3: can be enormous for incumbent and if you're a newcomer,
Speaker 3: the best bet right now is a grassroot movement on
Speaker 3: a clean slate so that you don't rely on corporate money.
Speaker 3: So those are the options under the Democratic Party and
Speaker 3: the Republican they have something similar, but they get more funding.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well, thank you for that. Now it's
Speaker 4: time for us to move on.
Speaker 1: To that way. Black History Fact today. This has come
Speaker 1: up a couple of times for me in the past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But we're going to be reading an
Speaker 1: excerpt from a letter from doctor Martin Luther King. We're
Speaker 1: spending this time, as we do, celebrating the life and
Speaker 1: the legacy of a doctor King, and I just pulled
Speaker 1: a small piece from the letter, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: share it with you today because the roots of this
Speaker 1: very program that you're listening to right now can be
Speaker 1: found in this letter, in this excerpt, and so without
Speaker 1: further delay, we'll start. Of course, there is nothing new
Speaker 1: about this kind of civil disobedience. It was evidenced sublimely
Speaker 1: in the refusal of Shadrack, me Shack and Abednego to
Speaker 1: obey the laws of Nebeknezzer on the ground that a
Speaker 1: higher moral law was at stake. That's from the Bible, Shadrack,
Speaker 1: Nushach and Abednego. If you don't know, it was practiced
Speaker 1: superbly by the early Christians who were willing to face
Speaker 1: hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks rather
Speaker 1: than submit to certain unjust laws of the Roman Empire.
Speaker 1: To a degree, academic freedom is reality because Socrates practiced
Speaker 1: civil disobedience. In our own nation, the Boston Tea Party
Speaker 1: represented a massive act of civil disobedience. This is doctor
Speaker 1: King talking about his protests, his marches, and so forth.
Speaker 1: He goes on, We should never forget that everything Adolph
Speaker 1: Hitler did in Germany was quote legal end quote, and
Speaker 1: everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was quote
Speaker 1: illegal end quote. It was illegal to aid and comfort
Speaker 1: a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure
Speaker 1: that had I lived in Germany at that time, I
Speaker 1: would have aided it and comforted my Jewish brothers. Don't
Speaker 1: forget doctor King was a Christian minister. If today I
Speaker 1: lived in a communist country where certain principles dear to
Speaker 1: the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying
Speaker 1: that country's anti religious laws. I must make too honest
Speaker 1: confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I
Speaker 1: must confess that over the past few years I have
Speaker 1: been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost
Speaker 1: reached the regrettable conclusion that the negro's great stumbling block
Speaker 1: in his stride toward freedom is not the white citizen's
Speaker 1: counselor or the klu klux klanner, but the white moderate
Speaker 1: who is more devoted to quote order end quote than
Speaker 1: to justice, who prefers a negative piece which is the
Speaker 1: absence of tension, to a positive piece, which is the
Speaker 1: presence of justice, who constantly says quote, I agree with
Speaker 1: you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree
Speaker 1: with your methods of direct action.
Speaker 4: End quote. Hold on, there shouldn't be out there burning buildings.
Speaker 4: They shouldn't be right. They shouldn't be looting. You know,
Speaker 4: anybody sounds like that. I don't agree, of course I
Speaker 4: agree with the goal, but they should they should do
Speaker 4: this right. Kaepernick shouldn't kneel that's the flag. He shouldn't kneel.
Speaker 4: He should do it at a different time.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me continue. This person who paternalistically believes he
Speaker 1: can set the timetable for another man's freedom, who lives
Speaker 1: by a mythical concept of time, and who constantly advises
Speaker 1: the Negro to wait for a quote more convenient season
Speaker 1: end quote. Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more
Speaker 1: frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm
Speaker 1: acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. This is
Speaker 1: doctor King, y'all. I have a dream.
Speaker 4: Little black boys and little white girls are going to
Speaker 4: play together.
Speaker 1: And he has some.
Speaker 4: He has some, He has some spicy to eat that day,
Speaker 4: because he was speaking the truth.
Speaker 1: I'll continue. I had hoped that the white moderate would
Speaker 1: understand that the law, that law and order exists for
Speaker 1: the purpose of establishing justice, and that when they fail
Speaker 1: in this purpose, they become the dangerously structured dams that
Speaker 1: block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that
Speaker 1: the white moderate would understand that the press tension in
Speaker 1: the South is a necessary phase of the transition from
Speaker 1: an obnoxious, negative peace in which the negro passively accepted
Speaker 1: as unjust plight, to a sub substantive and positive piece,
Speaker 1: in which all men will respect the dignity and worth
Speaker 1: of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct
Speaker 1: action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring
Speaker 1: to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive.
Speaker 1: We bring it out in the open where it can
Speaker 1: be seen and dealt with, Like a boil that can
Speaker 1: never be cured so long as it is covered up,
Speaker 1: but must be opened with all its ugliness, to the
Speaker 1: natural medicines of air and light. Injustice must be exposed,
Speaker 1: with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light
Speaker 1: of human consciousness and the air of national opinion before
Speaker 1: it can be cured. One more, Baba, become a better ally.
Speaker 1: If I may ask, if you're listening to my voice,
Speaker 1: if you listen to you and to me every week,
Speaker 1: one more ask go read this entire letter. This letter
Speaker 1: was written long before me and probably you were born.
Speaker 1: And see how relevant this letter is right now as
Speaker 1: we take this time as a country to celebrate the
Speaker 1: man that wrote these words, Let's not forget his lesser
Speaker 1: known speeches and writings everyone loves to talk about. I
Speaker 1: have a Dream, a brilliant speech, and moved us forward
Speaker 1: as a people, as brothers and sisters. I'm eternally grateful
Speaker 1: for it, as I'm sure are you. But let's not
Speaker 1: forget that he wasn't just a passive person that was
Speaker 1: willing to take beatings and dogs biting him in water hoses,
Speaker 1: and watch this happen to the members of his race
Speaker 1: and members of other races that were marching with him.
Speaker 1: He called it out, he called it by name, and
Speaker 1: he said the white moderate was the great stumbling block,
Speaker 1: the white moderate. That's why this show is here. There
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Speaker 1: leave you with that one more time the MLK. It's
Speaker 1: a letter from a Birmingham jail. Now that is about
Speaker 1: all the time that we're going to have for today, unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: shout out to my co host, my man fifty grand
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