WEBVTT - WWE Record Breaking Revenue/Big E Injury 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:10.879 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.560 By from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.800 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Vibe with your hosts 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:24.480 Brian Alvarez and Mike simper VVV. Ready are you ready? 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:30.480 Let's get it all? How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.680 here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.760 day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:41.840 Pacific sixth Eastern, Saturdays at Tenday and Pacific one Eastern 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:43.960 with Jim Valley. And we got a lot to get 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.360 into here today Friday, here on this program, and I 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.720 will be going solo at least for half this show 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.480 as Mike simper viv fairly struck some sort of animal 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.360 with his vehicle and he's getting a rental car as 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.840 we speak, so anyway, he's not gonna be here today, 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.080 But today Melt will be joining us in the second 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.840 segment of the show talking about the biggest stories in 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.920 the newest edition of the Wrestling Observer newsletter, including w 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:16.480 w E once again record breaking revenue for a quarter 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.560 and it's only gonna go up as a lot of 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.840 these television deals are escalating. Also great news for a 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.280 w business. The Forbidden Door pay per views sold out 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.560 pretty much immediately and a lot more. But I do 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.920 want to mention the beginning of the show here. Best 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.399 wishes too. Big E provided an update on his recovery 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.640 from a broken neck and a tweet on Friday. The 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.280 former w W champion shared the C one vertebra apparently 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.680 is not healing optimally. He is going to spend another 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.520 four to six weeks in a neck brace in hopes 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.400 of avoiding fusion surgery. For those desires of an update, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.800 he says, my SEE one apparently is not healing optimally, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.400 spending on four to six months in a brace, hopes 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.840 I can avoid a fusion. But don't you frets. I've 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.280 a tremendous support system and what shall be shall be. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.120 Of course. He broke his neck March eleven when he 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.120 took an overhead belly to belly from Ridge, Holland and 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.400 landed right on top of his head. Fractured his C 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.000 one and his C six, but they were not displaced. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.919 No spinal cords damage, no ligament damage. So he was very, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.119 very lucky, and I hope you will continue to be 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.720 lucky here and not need to get fusion surgery. So 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.480 that's the update on Biggie and all the best to him, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.239 his family and his friends. We're gonna do break. We 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:41.160 come back all of the news. Wrestling Observer Live back 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.120 in the show. Bright Nowver is here, Wrestling Observer Live. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:49.560 No Mike Supper VV, but he will be back very soon. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.600 Dave Meltson joining us for the second segment of the 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.080 show here and uh, We've got a lot of business 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.640 news to get into. I'm mostly gonna talk the business 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.400 news with Dave, but a couple of notes here and 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.040 what's becoming old had w W announced another record of 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:09.480 breaking quarter on Thursday, three hundred and thirty three million 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:15.280 in revenue in the first three months of two year 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:20.000 over a year, increase of twenty seven operating income ninety 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.440 two point four million for the quarter, increase of forty 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:29.160 two stock down over three percent for the day at nine, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:34.720 although they weren't the only ones with stocks down. Revenue 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.680 increased Drivers media rights thirty six million year over a 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:44.360 year thanks to the February Saudi Arabia elimination at Chamber Show. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.840 Oh yes, Live events up twenty three point one million 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.800 from just a half million a year a year ago. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:57.400 Consumer products increased eleven million. They made so much money 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.520 during the pandemic and now out as they have opened 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.800 up everything again, now they're making even more money than 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:10.000 they made in the pandemic as a result of different things. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.880 Live events in particular, you don't run a lot of 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.720 live events in the pandemic when you're in that thunderdome. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.920 The video game part of the consumer products increase in 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.080 edition A four and a half million of live event merchandise, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.920 offsetting at two point three million dollar dip in e 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.960 commerce revenue. Yeah, a pandemic ends and people stop buying 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.040 stuff online and they go to shows and buy stuff. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:35.000 That's what happened here. They mentioned their supporting press release, 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.800 multi year expansion of content for A and E, which 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.279 we'll see one and thirty plus new hours of w 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.039 w E theme series and specials, their m E n 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.960 A region broadcast deal with NBC Group, long term et 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.920 comment commerce licensed merchandise deal with Fanatics, release of w 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:58.360 W E two KWO WrestleMania thirty eight. They claimed in 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.520 terms of Peacock that domestic viewership was up year over year, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:07.040 global unique viewership up, making it the most of you 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.720 quote premium a live event in company history. Viewership in 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:16.360 India record one million views increase a year over a year. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.960 So yeah, things going very very well expected for and 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.240 their television deals still have some time left, so those 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.080 deals will only increase and then it will be time 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.359 to negotiate a new deal. And provided there is not 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.680 a global economic collapse or something crazy, they're gonna get 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.920 an even bigger deal the next time around. So long 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.160 story short. If you're like, if you're hoping for change, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.279 you know, like raw for exast, I mean, don't hold 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.880 your breath. They're gonna keep doing what they're doing, creating content, 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:56.400 whether it's good or bad. People are paying for content, 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.880 and so there you go. We also had a double 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:05.600 business news. The remaining three thousand tickets for June's a 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.440 W versus New Japan Forbidden Door pay per view sold 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.760 out in minutes Friday as part of the public on 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.599 sale ensuring the event Chicago's United Center will be sold 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:21.640 out as fall. As Thursday's pre sale, they sold eleven 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:27.560 thousand tickets in forty minutes on Thursday, meaning on Sunday, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.960 UH June. Event will have over fourteen thousand fans in attendance. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.560 Final number will depend on how many production hold tickets 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:39.280 will be released. First co promoted a W New Japan event, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.160 So for those of you concerned that nobody knows the 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.839 amount New Japan, they're not gonna go this show, well 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:49.280 they do. So this is the second time they've done 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.599 huge numbers without any matches. Well actually the the Punk announcement, 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.600 they didn't announce Punk was going to be there, but 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.760 I think everybody knew, and so they sold twelve thousand 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.599 tick gets in their first pre sale and that ended 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:07.080 up being free sixteen for the night. And this one 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.760 probably will be doing somewhere in that neighborhood, although it's 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:15.760 a as a big event. There might be uh perhaps 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.080 a more area taken up for production, but I guess 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.880 we'll see. But that's the update. Sold out very very quickly. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.760 Same thing with the Double or Nothing show coming up 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.400 at the end of this month. That things sold out 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.760 very very quickly, so fans reached in the a W 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.120 Big Shows. A W prepared to introduce trios titles we 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.720 talked about this in the new edition of the Wrestling 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.160 Observer newsletter, which of course you can read in its 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:44.200 entirety at a Wrestling Observer dot com, as well as 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.520 all of the back issues. Dave wrote that Trio's title 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.760 belts have been made, so now it is just a 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.680 matter of when they pull the trigger. Tony Cohn was 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.880 asked about making trios titles, gave the indication a few 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.160 months ago that it was happening, but they didn't want 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.760 to do the tournament until Kenny Omega was back, and 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.960 Tony Cohn, in a media call it was actually months ago, 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.720 noted that he will be more interested in Trio's division 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.200 when Kenny is back. He said, we have a lot 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.440 of great trios here, that's for sure. I'm very interested 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.920 in it. I will be honest with you, This is 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.600 the most blunt answer I could give. I am much 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:26.040 more receptive to doing it when Kenny Omega is back. Now, 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.360 I don't know when Kenny Omega is going to come back, 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.200 so I presume that he's going to continue to wait. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.400 But it's interesting when you watch the show and you 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.679 watch certain things that they did. For example, they were 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:46.000 really strongly teasing split between the young Bucks and Adam 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.719 Cole and Red Dragon, and then suddenly one week they 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.880 just did a a segment where Adam Cole said, listen, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:59.199 we've all been losing, uh, but we are strong as 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.360 a unit and we need to go prove that. And 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.760 so then they did that ten man tag and they 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.360 just slaughtered their opponents, and then they gave the shirts 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.880 to the young Bucks. And there's been zero teases of 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.480 dissension in the last couple of weeks. So I could 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.360 be reading too much into this, but when I saw 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.840 that would appear to be a change, my presumption was 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.880 they were expecting Kenny Omega back, and now maybe they're 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.720 not expecting him back so soon, and that's why they're 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.640 slowing down the split between the Bucks, Red Dragon, and Aticle. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.080 I don't know that. I have not been told that 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.800 by anybody. I just watched the television and that's the 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.560 conclusion that I came up with. But for all I know, 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.840 Kenny Omega could end up being the joker. I don't 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.079 think he's gonna be the joker in the Own Heart Tournament, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:52.360 but I suppose he He could be Canadian. So that's 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.920 the update on the six man titles. Also in the 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.160 New Observer this week there was talking about that w 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.280 w E business and how you know, business is great. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.679 They're making money hand over fist Saudias are paying them, 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.640 you know, forty million dollars to show or whatever and 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.520 making all this money off television. So like, if you 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:19.920 want the quality of the product, change, don't hold your breath. Well, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.760 you guys, remember when they they were teasing the USO's 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.600 against r K bro in a unification match, and for 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:34.079 weeks on television they teased a unification match, and then 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.720 they went to do the contract signing and the big 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.959 brawl broke out and Drew McIntyre ran in and Roman 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.080 Reigns ran in, which, by the way, begs the question 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.720 did they ever signed that contract? Because if they signed 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.520 the contract before the brawl, I mean, we should still 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.439 be getting unification match in storyline. But maybe they didn't. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.040 But the void of this is they changed it to 0:10:55.040 --> 0:11:03.040 a six man and like an idiot, because I never learned, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:09.000 I thought, you know, they tease that damn match for weeks, 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:14.120 So maybe tonight on SmackDown they're going to announce that 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:21.200 all of the belts are on the line and you know, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.840 unify the belts, whichever team wins. If if Drew's team wins, 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:29.040 Drew becomes champion, and if Romans team wins, the USOS 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.800 unified those belts and Roman retains his title. And as 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:39.480 it turns out, this is not plans change. This is 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:46.160 apparently planned from day one. From day one, the plan was, well, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.520 we're gonna tease a unification match for weeks, but we're 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.240 not going to deliver. We are going to change it 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:59.520 to a six man So all of those storylines, all 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:04.120 of that build it was all. I mean, you can't 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.240 even have more of a bait and switch than that. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.840 They had no intentions of doing the unification matic. Now 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.440 I guess maybe you know, plans do change sometimes, so 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.439 I guess they could announce tonight that all the belts 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.439 are on the line, but not looking like that it's 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.559 gonna be the case. Back in a moment, Observer Live 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.920 back in the show Bright Now Barez here Wrestling Observer 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.200 Alive Day. Melts are joining us here today. A new 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.480 edition of the Wrestling Observer newsletter available right now at 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.320 a Wrestling Observer dot com. And there's a lot of 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.760 news in the issue this week. And we started this 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.880 show here today Dave talking about the basics of w 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.800 w e s quarterly report, and you've got all of 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.520 the in depth, in depth news on this, So what's 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.840 what's the big story here? There really wasn't a big story. Um, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.920 we're making a lot of money. They made a lot 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.719 of money. A couple of categories are up, a couple 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.960 of categories are down. A lot more people are watching 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:12.080 the pay per view shows because they're on Peacock, and 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.640 because Peacock has expanded its audience. So um. And you know, 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:21.160 they made a big deal about how the Elimination Chamber 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.840 show was bigger than the prior Saudi show. But between 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.800 the growth of Peacock, which was primarily due to the Olympics, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.080 and also the fact it was on a Saturday rather 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.160 than a Thursday, that kind of explains it. You know, 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.360 Thursday afternoon isn't going to be a giant number compared 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.800 to a Saturday afternoon. But you know, the Mania numbers were. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.280 They said it was the largest audience ever to watch 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.840 a w W show, But I mean, it's probably the 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:52.760 largest ever to watch a pay per view show. Um, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.679 in fact, it was, but you know, I mean it 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.679 paled in comparison to like you know, you know, like 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.480 Austin and undertake million viewers for a raw. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.640 you know, or or or Hulk Cogan and on Hulk 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.000 Coogan And um, wasn't Andre the Giant. Yeah it was Hull. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.280 Yeah yeah, I mean it's not even it's probably one 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.960 tenth of that. But they claimed it was the biggest ever. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.839 Um and you know, it's just a bunch of stuff. 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.880 But there was no real, no real big news. You know. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.720 Nick con was very bullish about Amazon and you know, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.240 Netflix and h Apple and people like that getting into 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.760 the wrestling business and more people bidding um, you know, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.440 and that's probably gonna happen in w w is in 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.840 great position because they are you know, they're not the NFL, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.280 but they are a um you know, they're there's somebody 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.360 that can move numbers. They have a big fan base 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.160 and can help a streaming service and so, um, there's 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.760 gonna be a lot of people interested in um in 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.880 w w E when their rights fees come up, and 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.800 I'm sure that they will get a big increase and 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.440 they'll make even more money than they're making now. So 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.880 we also had the story and the Observer about the 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.720 main event of the pay per view this weekend and 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.760 how it was always planned to be a six man Yes, 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.320 it was. There was never that was always the plan. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.920 This was the way they got into the plan. Um, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.760 I have no idea. If you're asking me why, I 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.200 have no clue. But that's the deal. Well, I can 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.120 I can understand if if all the belts were going 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:25.880 to be on the line and you're still going to 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.880 deliver what you advertise, which was a unification match, But 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.880 I mean, I guess we'll find out tonight. But not 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.160 looking like it's going to be any sort of unification match. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.880 Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.320 definitely not a tag team title unification match on on 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:44.800 on this weekend. No, why would you do this? Um? 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.440 You know it's weird because you know Vince. Vince has 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.120 a rule of not like it's not not necessarily like 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.520 like he does never rule against false advertising. He does 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.800 that all the time. But he does have a rule 0:15:56.000 --> 0:16:00.760 as far as building up something that he eventually will 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:05.560 not not deliver. And there is no plan for unification, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.400 or at least there was as of a couple of 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.720 days ago. That could always change. Um, although it makes 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.520 no sense to do it, so I think that there's 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:14.880 a good chance it won't be. So as far as 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.440 like why he did it this way, I have no idea. Honestly, 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.040 I think that it's probably something they thought would draw 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:25.120 ratings and and uh but they you know, it doesn't 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.400 look like they want once in a a Tag Team Champions. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.560 I don't see any problem with having once in a 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.120 Tag Team Champions because if you've been watching the show lately, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.840 like radio in riddle around both shows anyway, so we'll 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.440 be they don't, but they don't want to. They don't 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.200 want to keep that, you know, they don't want to 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.200 keep that going for a long time. Um, having having 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.560 having the stars on both shows, well both both both 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.160 networks kind of want unique viewer, you know, unique Um 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.040 what is his unique rosters? I mean you can do 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.560 some of that back and forth, but really Fox in 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:02.920 particular really wants kind of exclusivity on its guy. All right. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:09.679 I I don't know, I've been I understand wanting like 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.800 kind of an exclusive roster. But like I, all I 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.399 ever hear about is is complaints about oh, we were 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.720 promised this person and then this person went over there 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.560 in the draft and then you know, we thought we 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.760 were gonna get this person. Like if you remember when 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.840 they first went to Fox, they had a graphic of 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.919 of a bunch of superstars for when they were advertising 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.000 the move to Fox, and it was like Charlotte and 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.680 and then they did the draft and none of them 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.280 went there. And I remember there was like, you know, well, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.439 how come we didn't get this person out? You know 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.960 he could get everybody if we just combined these rosters. Yeah, 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:45.439 well now all those people brock Lessner and Rhonda Rowsie 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.680 and Charlotte Flair, they're all there now finally, and Roman reigns. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.159 So uh that, uh I know that. I got a 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.800 text from a filthy Tom today and uh he was 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.480 commenting on his Uh I think give it four and 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.680 half stars him and Moxley. That match was great. Yeah, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.199 this guy is like, oh, there's no way it was 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.919 more than four. That's how he is. This was a 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.280 great match, wasn't The match was great? Yea, thats the 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.240 best time match I've ever seen in my life. It's 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:15.800 the best time match I've ever seen. But I haven't 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.880 seen like a million time matches, but I've seen I've 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.320 seen dozens, and it was by far. It was by 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.720 far the best. Um. I really liked the match structure. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.720 I mean that was the thing that I liked more 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.320 than anything. Is just um you know, kind of like 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.640 the timing of what they did and when they did it. Um, 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.040 And it had a real especially by the end, it 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:38.359 had a real nice fight fuel and um, you know, 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.840 it's like for an independent match, or for any match 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.440 for that matter, it was really intense. I I really, um, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.200 you know, I mean it's like, I'm not a big 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.399 fan of blood bath matches. And and the thing is 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.560 is that match if you took away all the blood, 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.720 it still would have been exactly as good. I mean, 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.679 it was just a really well, really well put together match. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.560 And Um, Moxley is you know, Mocks is really good 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.040 at his He's fantastic at his style, and um, and 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.800 Tom's a real good opponent for him because of the credibility. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.720 Is yeah. Yeah, Like when I saw that, when I 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.400 saw that match, and it was like midway through the match, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.760 it wasn't even at the end. Midway through the match, 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.479 it was just like and Tom, you know the other 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.080 thing that Tom is, he's he's there's certain things mannerisms 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.160 that he does when he comes to the ring, and 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.040 during a match, you know, not moves like as for 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:32.000 like not moves wrestling. He's like really good and it's 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.000 like it's it's sort of like something that is unique 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.480 to me, that showmanship aspect that so many of the 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.119 younger guys don't have. And like I was watching, going like, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.240 you know, he really needs to be like an a 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:48.439 w because they don't have anyone like him. Um you know. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.320 I mean it's not like he's better than everyone there 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.560 or anything like that, but they have no one like him, 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:57.240 and it's like the the you know, his I just 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.480 really like his idea, not his ideas, but just what 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:04.280 things that does. It really impressed me. Yeah. I watched 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.159 his entrance and I was like, oh my god, this 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.040 guy is a superstar. I mean, he just he was 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.480 so great during his his interest and of course Moxie 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.760 comes out in the place just goes absolutely nuts. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.320 his his interest Moxley. You know, Moxley's got a fantastic 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.080 or around him, especially on an independent show because, um, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.680 you know a lot of the top guys um will 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.919 go to an independent show and they'll work like they 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.240 would work on television, and independent wrestling is very different 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:34.120 from television wrestling, and Moxley totally gets the difference. Yeah. 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.480 I remember there was another DeFi show and I remember 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:42.399 the Briscos were there and uh my god, they worked 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.480 there asses off on this DeFi show. I remember watching 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.879 this mansion. I'm thinking, like, do they think it's Final 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.639 Battle or something like that because they worked so hard 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.359 and man, Moxi went out there and this guy didn't 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.240 half acid ever. I mean, dude, he went out there 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.760 and just was I mean, he was on fire. And 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:01.600 I'm and that's the thing. It's like a guy at 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.919 his pay level working in an independent show could just 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.920 basically make an appearance, you know what I mean, an appearance, 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.000 do his you know, do his moves that people want 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.240 to see and everybody want to be happy. But he 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.199 went way above and beyond, you know. So yeah, that 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:19.280 match was Um, that was a tremendous match. Yeah yeah, 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.920 so a w huh fan Forbidden Door is uh, it's 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.399 all sold out. It's all sold out. Immediately. All the 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:30.439 people who thought that this concept wasn't viable, um at 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.439 least as a as a as a live show, we 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:33.919 know it is. I mean, pay per view will be 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.480 the pay per view, but the ticket demand was the 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:40.800 highest for any a w show since UH all Out 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.080 and the highest actually of any show in the United 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.960 States in a long long time, which will get people mad, 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:50.560 but it's just the truth, you know. I mean, there's 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.720 nobody else that had twenty thousand people UH signed up 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.560 at buy tickets on the pre sale that was never 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.679 advertised at all. You know, it wasn't like it was 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.959 for today when it was advertised. This was the day before. 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.439 I mean, people didn't even most people didn't even know 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.320 about it. Obviously, Obviously twenty thou people knew about it, 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.840 and they were you know, there's there's no doubt they 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.680 were very much. Um, there was. It was. They were 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:19.600 very lucky in a sense that the secondary market scalpers 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.240 number one made a ton of money on the recent 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:22.879 pay per view shows, so they knew to buy in. 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.679 And secondly, um, there were no other big shows that 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:28.520 went on sale that day, so a lot of the 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.159 high level scalpers that don't touch wrestling, but just you 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.040 know kind of like with what tickets were you gonna 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.760 buy today? Um, there were like no big concerts, no 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.760 big sports events that went on sale that day. So um, 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.440 there were a lot of people. There were a lot 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.080 of secondary market tickets sold. But the reality is is 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.399 that you know those those uh you know, like on 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:50.520 the the show in Vegas, right double or nothing. Um, 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:54.720 so far, the secondary market people have made about four 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:58.040 times the ticket price a little under four times about 0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:59.719 three and a half times the ticket price that they 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.800 paid for it. So it's not like, you know, the 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.679