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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Jefferson White Here, I play Jimmy Hurts from

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Speaker 1: on the Paramount Network original series Yellowstone. Yellowstone is back.

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Speaker 1: It's bigger and better than ever. Season five of Yellowstone

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Speaker 1: is the biggest season yet and things are no different

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Speaker 1: here on the Official Yellowstone Podcast. And so I've got

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Speaker 1: a really, really exciting announcement for you coming up right

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Speaker 1: after this break. This season of the Official Yellowstone Podcast

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Speaker 1: is going to be bigger than ever, better than ever.

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Speaker 1: And my first big piece of news is we are joined. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll let her introduce herself.

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Speaker 2: What's your name? Ti?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 4: Is that.

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Speaker 1: Tight Hart? Since she said your name Peter Loolock, motherfucker?

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Speaker 5: Name is Peter, you skunk hard motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: We are joined by the incredible, the one of a

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Speaker 1: kind Jennifer Land and Jen. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: being here.

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Speaker 5: Well, my guest, Jeff, I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 4: It's also it seems a bit ironic that the one

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Speaker 4: is now joining you for.

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Speaker 5: An entirely auditory experience of the show. So in case.

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Speaker 4: Anybody doesn't know that, this is how I speak in

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Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, Jen, Oh my god, that's such a good point.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. Folks know you as Teeter, they know

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Speaker 1: you with Teeter's incredible, incomprehensible accent. What an amazing thing.

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Speaker 1: Some folks are gonna be hearing your real voice for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which which I think very very well could be

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Speaker 4: like how I would respond to them, and if I

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Speaker 4: was saying to them when I said, like, yes, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny because in real life you're so

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Speaker 5: I think that I have.

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Speaker 4: I think I've tried to hide my California accent for

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Speaker 4: I was born with some some sort of shame around

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Speaker 1: You do you, I feel like, do you overcompensate now

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: I think sometimes I'm like suck. I think I just

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Speaker 4: They're like they're like, hey, hey, will you call me

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Speaker 4: a skunkhred filling the rest of that sentence, And I'm like, sure,

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Speaker 1: That's so funny. People want you to roast them, they do.

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Speaker 1: That's funny because people want to roast me. Most people

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Speaker 1: come up to me and say, shut the fuck up, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: and people want you to roast them. That's so funny.

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Speaker 5: That is Are we allowed to drop the f bumb

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Speaker 2: This is exciting, Jin What an honor it is to

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it. There is no one in the

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Speaker 4: I feel the same way, especially since I feel like

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Speaker 4: we were torn apart by storylines, you know when each other.

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Speaker 4: We were torn apart years ago. Now, I mean it

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Speaker 4: But we shot season four in twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty summer twenty twenty, right, and.

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Speaker 5: Then we were torn apart a few episodes in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. While we were working on season four,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, about about two hundred pounds of dead weight just

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Speaker 4: the recording and we'll go back. Jeff, can I can

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Speaker 1: Then I lost it all again.

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Speaker 5: I learned never to celebrate by grabbing me under your rope.

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Speaker 1: we are also propelled backwards into the past. So it

440
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: really is a kind of fascinating duality. We're seeing what

441
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Speaker 1: the Duttons are fighting so hard to protect, sort of

442
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: as we're watching them, you know, I hate to say it,

443
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: losing the battle to protect it. As we see as

444
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: the Dutton's forces are spread ever more thin and their

445
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: enemies are spread ever more thickly, we're also watching the

446
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: very legacy that they're trying to protect. I also just

447
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out. Listen you guys listening

448
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: to this, God bless you. You're going to learn something

449
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: about me and Jen which is that actor's favorite thing

450
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: to talk about is other actors. You know not to

451
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: speak for Jen god blet. You know, Jen, you got

452
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: your own prerogative. My thing that I love most in

453
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: the world is actors and acting, so over and over again,

454
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear me gush about, you know, some of

455
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: my favorite actors in the world, which is our cast

456
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: mates on Yellowstone And if you get sick of it,

457
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm not very good at hosting a podcast.

458
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 4: You're fantastic at posting at hosting a podcast. And I

459
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 4: was actually in agreement with you that whole time, but

460
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: my connection on this podcast dropped out. So while I

461
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: was actually saying yes, Jeff, yes, I agree, I love

462
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 4: talking about fellow actors, it just sounded like I was

463
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: a jerk and I was just.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, damn. It was like, yeah, you guys can't see

465
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: this at home. But Jen was shaking her head that

466
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: whole time. She has nothing but contempt for the other

467
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: actors on the show.

468
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Speaker 4: Can I like, I actually just like, while we're talking

469
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: about actors on the show, there were people who got

470
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 4: some shout out. Did you see this shout out that

471
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: Jake Reim got from his performance in episode one?

472
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Speaker 1: No who shouted him out?

473
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 5: Vulture?

474
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: Yes, it was like one of the highlights. It was

475
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: like Jake Ream's expression of genuine Bill wilderment at the

476
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: sudden drive by insults made me laugh, What the hell

477
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 4: are you all on my ass for? I mean, it

478
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: was one of like seven acting moments really pulled out.

479
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: And for those of you who don't know, Jake Ream

480
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: is not somebody who enters into the show as somebody

481
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Speaker 4: with an acting background.

482
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 5: He is somebody who enters into the show as somebody

483
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: who is a.

484
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: Cutting horse trainer and a wrangler background. And he is

485
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: one of the best improvisers. And I think he's actually

486
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: one of the most truthful actors I've ever worked with

487
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Speaker 4: in my life.

488
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Speaker 1: He is so funny. Yeah, it is really Jake Reim

489
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: has been acting for about as long as we've been

490
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 1: riding horses, which is, you know, five seasons now, and

491
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: he is he has gotten much better at acting, much

492
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: faster than we've gotten better at riding. That's not really fair,

493
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: that is correct. When we were never no, no, you go,

494
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: you go, you go.

495
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: When we were when we were shooting the this is

496
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Speaker 4: just like behind. This is when we are shooting the governor.

497
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: When we were shooting the governor, ball scene, and we

498
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: were in the very far background and we're just dancing

499
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Speaker 4: in the background.

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Speaker 5: It was no problem. I saw Jake.

501
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: Ream talking and I thought he was talking to the

502
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: woman he was dancing with. But then I saw that

503
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: the woman he was dancing with wasn't talking back at all.

504
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: And then I looked and I see that he's got

505
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: his head turned down, he's got his phone in his pocket,

506
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: and he's in the middle of selling a horse in

507
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 4: the deep background on the scene.

508
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Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm like.

509
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Speaker 1: Jake, that's so funny. Yeah, it's really incredible. You can

510
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: take the horse trainer out of the barn, but you

511
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: can't take the barn out of the horse trainer, or

512
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: a real cowboy would come up with a better saying

513
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: than that. It really is. It is a pretty amazing

514
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: because it's also like also Ethan Lee. I mean, like,

515
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: so there's lots of really funny bunk house sort of

516
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: sequences in the first few episodes of season five that

517
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: have aired so far. Ethan Lee is also getting his

518
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: jokes in. Now, it's pretty amazing, I really Ethan Lee

519
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: is also a remarkable actor, and Ethan is an actor

520
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: and a stunt performer in addition to being an incredible writer.

521
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: So it is really fun to get to see him

522
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: do more, to get to see all these characters that

523
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: have been cooking for five seasons, been simmering like a

524
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: chili and a crock pot, are now so rich and

525
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: full of flavor, which is a really amazing thing to see.

526
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Speaker 4: You know, we have this, we talk about those parallels

527
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: that are you know, on screen and off screen. The

528
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: thing that's crazy is that nobody knew that Ethan was

529
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: funny in real life until Taylor started writing him jokes.

530
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: And now suddenly like he's become incredibly funny off camera.

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Speaker 5: Like we always knew he.

532
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: Was lovely, soulful, wonderful, talented, amazing smart, we didn't know

533
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: he was that guy's got zingers.

534
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: They're coming out left on right now.

535
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: He's got zingers. By season five, the zingers are flying

536
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: all over the place and it is It's very funny.

537
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: In episode one there when Jake is catching more than

538
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: his fair share of the zingers, I feel bad abandoning

539
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: him because when Jimmy was there, there was more than

540
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: one person to make fun of. Now that Jimmy's out

541
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: of the way, Jake is catching more than his fair

542
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: share of those shots and that collateral damage. So so

543
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: we've talked a bunch about John Dutton's new role as

544
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: the Governor. We've talked about what the bunk House is

545
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: up to. Let's take a break really quick, and when

546
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: we get back we'll catch up on everything else. So

547
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: we've talked about John Dutton's new role as the Governor,

548
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: the new forces and sort of challenges facing him. We've

549
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: talked about what the bunk House is up to. Another

550
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: crucial although less obviously less fun to talk about. Yeah,

551
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: plot point of episode one is the tragic loss of

552
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: Casey and Monica's child.

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Speaker 5: That was heartbreaking, it really was.

554
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's one of these Tailor's brilliant. He sets

555
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: you up on these highs. He gives you a party,

556
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: he gives you what you want to see. You want

557
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: to see, you know, Rippin' Beth being romantic, you want

558
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: to see, you know, these victories, the cowboys having a

559
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: good time. And then right when you're feeling safe and secure,

560
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: he pulls the rug out from under you and drops

561
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: you on your drops you on your ass. And the

562
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: end of episode one really is that it's a brutal

563
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: expertly acted, expertly shot, expertly sort of executed sequence that

564
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: reminds us, you know, reminds us that the West is

565
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: these highs, this sort of beautiful, joyful, you know, community,

566
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Speaker 1: and it's also brutally difficult and challenging and punishing it.

567
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: But it also sort of like, you know, so much

568
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: of the episode, like you said, is about this, you know,

569
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: HD becoming governor and these sort of bigger things and

570
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: progress versus this and all of these sort of ideals

571
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: and you know, and esoteric ideas. But this is something

572
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: that sort of makes all of that, in a strange way,

573
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: not matter, because that's something that we can all relate

574
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: to when there's some sort of devastating loss like that

575
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: that is close to home, that in particular involves a child,

576
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: Like for a moment, all that other stuff goes away.

577
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I know for me watching the episode, I mean,

578
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: in that moment, it's like that's the only thing that exists,

579
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Speaker 4: and it certainly puts a lot in perspective, and it

580
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: just frames that whole episode really well.

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Speaker 1: You're so right, it's fascinating. You know, these contradictions we've

582
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: been talking about getting pulled in multiple directions at once

583
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: as the scale of the show gets bigger, as that

584
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: it gets more complicated, as more and more sort of

585
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: the conflicts get bigger, they're more legal, they're sort of

586
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: harder to resolve. This sequence and this loss really brings

587
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: us back to the kind of most intimate, most human,

588
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: most sort of instinctually painful on an animal level loss

589
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: that you can imagine.

590
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: And yeah, and Taylor also like writes in you know

591
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: some of those other simple intimate moments, you know, towards

592
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: the end with with JD and Carter, for example, that

593
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: moment where he tells them basically to stop growing up,

594
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: that if you grow a beard, you're fired, you know,

595
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: which is another thing that we is so simple that

596
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: we all relate to in terms of just the greatest

597
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: devil of them all sometimes, which is time, this this

598
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: train that you can't stop. So he just grounds the

599
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: end of that episode and just really basic, devastating or

600
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: not so devastating human experiences. I feel like that's one

601
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: of his superpowers.

602
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Speaker 1: You're totally right, And that's an amazing sort of parallel

603
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: to draw. It really feels like John Dutton is sort

604
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: of drawing a line in the sand and then you know,

605
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: waves of time are just washing it away over and

606
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: over again. There's nothing he can do to stop that tide.

607
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Speaker 4: You know, what do you think, Jeff, what do you

608
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: what do you think about that last moment when Tate

609
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: in the hall says to j D I had a

610
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: brother for an hour anyway, And then he says, they

611
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: named him John.

612
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: Oh, it's brutal. It's it's you know, it's John Dutton.

613
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: In many ways, many many episodes throughout Yellowstone or John

614
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Dutton sort of facing his own mortality, facing the mortality

615
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: of his legacy. So much of what he does is

616
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: to protect his family, to protect generations to come. He's

617
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: doing everything he can to try to control the future.

618
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: And this is just a little reminder that no matter

619
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Speaker 1: what you do, no matter how hard you fight, you

620
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: can't control everything. And you can't. There's you know, time,

621
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Time comes for all of us.

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Speaker 2: You know.

623
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it also, I mean, I actually it's so funny

624
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: in some ways. I don't know, because I haven't revisited

625
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 4: some of these episodes because we shot them so long ago.

626
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 4: But it also feels almost like a foreshadowing or a

627
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 4: harbinger of you know, as John's.

628
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: Focus gets out and elsewhere.

629
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Speaker 4: There's a real threat to what he might lose back

630
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: home while he's you know, there's a real threat to

631
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: losing you know, almost everything, it feels like. And I

632
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 4: just want to say our producer, who's been incredibly quiet

633
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: during this recording, Scott, Who's Who's a pretty tough guy

634
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: at this point. In the little beat sheet that he

635
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: hands Jeff and I, he actually has a parenthetical.

636
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: He couldn't help himself.

637
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: He had a write down, but in that hospital moment,

638
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: in parentheses, he wrote, I cried. So it was like

639
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: amidst all of these very clean notes, like he was

640
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: so overwhelmed with feeling.

641
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: He's actually he's also crying right now, right now, you

642
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: guys can't see it because it's not on video, but

643
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: he's just tears are streaming down his face. Wow, Scott,

644
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: this is actually the fourth or fifth time he's cried

645
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: just during this recording set.

646
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 5: Special lot of tissue.

647
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a scented one too. Looks like it's that

648
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: with the aloe, so your nose doesn't get that's nice.

649
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: He's not going to get irritated. Yeah, you're so right

650
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: jin that like the one of the themes of this

651
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: season that we'll keep talking about as we now move

652
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: forward into to episode two is that John Dutton has

653
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: to go further and further away from home to protect

654
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: his home. He's getting pulled away from the very thing

655
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: that he's trying to protect, and it puts everybody in danger.

656
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I don't want to give too

657
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 4: much weight because I know we're only in you know,

658
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: the first three episodes, but you know, that feeling of

659
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 4: missing him, Missing Kevin was.

660
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 5: Also a thing that I felt this year.

661
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: Like it was it was something that my character sort

662
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: of felt, and then it was something that I felt

663
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: as an actor on set. It was like, you know,

664
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: because of course when you're shooting Yellowstone, people are like,

665
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: how's Kevin, you know, and the answer is always amazing,

666
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: And this year it was like, I haven't seen him,

667
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: you know, and it was it was this.

668
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: Thing of really sort of of missing the main Papa Bear.

669
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, his presence. Kevin is a leader on set in

670
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: the same way that John Dutton is the leader of

671
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: that ranch. And you were also saying earlier that you

672
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: missed me. Starting to wonder kind of like, was that

673
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: was any of that real?

674
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 5: Was any of my missing you real.

675
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying it about.

676
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 5: Jeff. I'll be fully honest with you. It was much

677
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: easier without you. But I did no, I I did

678
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 5: miss you. No, I missed you horribly. I miss you.

679
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: I miss you even now, Jeff, I can see you.

680
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 4: You're a small You look like a playing card. Frankly,

681
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: for some reason, you look, where's the Yellowstone playing cards?

682
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 5: I just came up. Do we have a one on

683
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: one studios? Are you hearing me? Do we have a

684
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: yellow playing card?

685
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: It's funny, you know. Season five, episode one, an episode

686
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: in which Jimmy Herdstrom does not appear one time, is

687
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: the most watched episode of television across all across all

688
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: television this year. Which while I listen, I want to

689
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: root for the team. I want to say, you know,

690
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: go Cubs, even when I'm not playing, even when I'm

691
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: not on the field.

692
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: Are the ship that got us here? You are?

693
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: You are?

694
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: You are the ship that got us here?

695
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: Theseus? Does it even? Is it even still the same

696
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: ship now that the sales are gone? Listen, listen, listen

697
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: Yellowstone Season five, episode two. A lot of stuff is happening.

698
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of and once again part of one

699
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: of the exciting things about this season particularly is these

700
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: new threats, these new challenges, these new characters. So in

701
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: Yellowstone season five, episode two, we are introduced to Sarah Attwood. Yes,

702
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: will you talk a little bit about Dawn, about the experience,

703
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: about your experience of this character, this character who kind

704
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: of leaped off the page.

705
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, you know when I read When I

706
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: read that character, it definitely felt like, okay, it was

707
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: just the promise of scenes between her, between Sarah and Beth,

708
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: it was like we just it was just this incredible

709
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: like you could you just could only imagine what was

710
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: gonna come.

711
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: That was one of the characters that excited me the most.

712
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: Don Is I actually met don for the first.

713
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: Time four days ago, maybe it was five days ago

714
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 4: at the premiere, which I think we're going to get

715
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: to in a little bit to talk about. But she's

716
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: so amazing. I've been you know, I'm a fan of

717
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 4: hers from eighteen eighty three.

718
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 5: I love her other works.

719
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: She's just a dynamite actress and a really cool person.

720
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: And I was really excited. I'm really excited to continue

721
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 4: to watch that character on screen.

722
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: It's so cool, it's like, you know, we were talking

723
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: earlier about Kylie Rodgers having the challenge of stepping into

724
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: Kelly riley shoes Young Beth. How about Dawn having to

725
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: step up to go toe to toe. It's like signing

726
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: up to fight Muhammad Ali. You know, it's like signing

727
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: up to fight Floyd Mayweather. You're signing up to go

728
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: into the ring with the toughest, meanest fighter on the show.

729
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: And it's an incredible thing. And she rises to that challenge.

730
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: It's a very exciting, very exciting conflict there.

731
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: It is.

732
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: So Also in this episode, I just want to flag

733
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: this because you know, we're introducing new enemies and we're

734
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: introducing new allies, which I think is a really fun

735
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: element of this season. So an actor that I'm a

736
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: big fan of joins the show, which is really exciting

737
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: to me. And that's Lily Kay playing Clara, who's John

738
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: Dunton's new assistant.

739
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Lily's Lily is amazing.

740
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: And for people who follow the cutting world at all,

741
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: the name Clara Brewer is going to sound a bit

742
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: familiar because there is one of the best female cutting

743
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: horse trainers.

744
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 5: In the world is Cara Brewer.

745
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: And I think that that name somehow got into Taylor's

746
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: brain and made it out onto the page.

747
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 5: And Lily Kay is one.

748
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: Of the coolest people I've ever met in my life.

749
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 4: She would robot dance with us all day long, Jeff,

750
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 4: like it was just you and I awkwardly robot dancing,

751
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: but like Lily Kay, She's gonna robot dance with us.

752
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: She's amazing. I'm really excited. I hope we can get

753
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: her as a guest in a later episode of the show,

754
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: because I'd love to hear about her background. I've been

755
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: a fan of her work for a long time. She's

756
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: amazing and she does an incredible job again stepping into

757
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: stepping basically into the ring with Kevin Costner, with Kelly Riley,

758
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: with you know, Wes Bentley, surrounded by these giants, these

759
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: these geniuses, and really holding her own. So I'm so

760
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: excited to get to know her character and I'd love

761
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to her some more and get

762
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: to do you hear about her her process of working

763
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: on the show.

764
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: Also just fun fact for the audience. Until we get her, Lily,

765
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 4: you have no option but to come on the show.

766
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: When you listen to this episode of money. We're manifesting,

767
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: We're manifest This is positive affirmation. Lily is actually has

768
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 4: been riding horses her whole life and is a phenomenal writer,

769
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: and so the audience should look forward to that as well.

770
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. She's playing She's playing the governor's assistant.

771
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: Only on Yellowstone is the young actor who's brought in

772
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: to play the governor's assistant also an expert rider who

773
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: can hold her own. Yeah.

774
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: I also have this feeling that Lily is good at

775
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: everything and somehow is not annoying at all.

776
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 5: Usually the two do not go hand in hand.

777
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I'm good at nothing and very annoying.

778
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm sort of on the other side of that.

779
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: Spaced you out self deprecated me. You left me no

780
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: further insult to apply to myself.

781
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went nuclear right at the beginning, than you.

782
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: Because I couldn't come up with one.

783
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: Okay, So, Jeff, I have a question for you, even

784
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: though unfortunately, as we know, you were not in this

785
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: episode or the scene. I was curious what your thoughts

786
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: were about the scene. Were Colby and Ryan go out

787
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: and hunt the wolves and end up in a pickle

788
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: far greater than they expected.

789
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bunk house. You know, usually these guys, they're

790
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: good soldiers. They do what they're told. Usually, you know,

791
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: they've got a few layers of excuses here, they're just

792
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: following orders. This time they really screw the pooch. So obviously,

793
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: you know, they find signs that the herd is being

794
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: haunted by wolves. They find evidence of this, Ripsen's Colby

795
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: and Ryan Ian Bowen and Denim Richards to go handle

796
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: it in the dead and night. They're using thermal scopes

797
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: to try and sort of quietly eliminate the issue. But

798
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: because they're using thermal scopes, they don't see that the

799
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: wolves that they're hunting are wearing these tracking collars, which

800
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: means they're wolves from Yellowstone National Park, which means they

801
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: are the most protected, sort of most sacred wolves, you know, imaginable.

802
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: So they're basically really really stepping in it and really

803
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: causing huge ramifications, potentially huge ramifications for the ranch by

804
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: killing these wolves. I think it's described in the episode.

805
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: These wolves have Facebook pages. They're sort of they are, right,

806
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: they are like public figures, they're influencers, right.

807
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: And by virgue of the fact that they're tracking callers,

808
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: They're going to be able to see where those wolves

809
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: went and where they maybe started walking at a slightly

810
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: stranger pattern.

811
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: Exactly. So, we've taken a lot of people to the

812
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: train station who didn't have the benefit of tracking callers.

813
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: If you've got a GPS locator attached to you, you

814
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: can't just you can't just get tossed, you know, in

815
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: a ravine somewhere in the you know, the greater the

816
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: greater Tri State area. So say really stepped in it.

817
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: In many ways, the wolves are a greater threat than

818
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 4: any train station victims so far.

819
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Yeah, Yeah, there wasn't a GPS tracking

820
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: caller on the Beck brothers.

821
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: You know, they didn't, right. They also they didn't take them.

822
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 4: They didn't take the wolves to the train station, right,

823
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: they took them. They took them to the river.

824
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: Yes.

825
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: So, so in an effort to like cover up their cribs, basically,

826
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: they they toss these GPS callers into the river, hoping

827
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: that they'll simply wash downstream, hoping that they'll find their

828
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: way back into the park and off of the ranch. Yes, However,

829
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: is it bad that all I'm.

830
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 5: Hearing is the song take Me to the River.

831
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: That's right, that's a GPS collar singing that song.

832
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 5: Oh, it's all.

833
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 4: No in all seriousness, And it's a really confusing issue

834
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 4: that no episode is long enough to get into the

835
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: wolf issue in Montana, and there are many different feelings

836
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: about how to deal with it and many different sides,

837
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 4: and it's it's complicated and ongoing. That is that is

838
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: something that Taylor wrote into the show, and that is

839
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 4: something that is very real and current for the people

840
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 4: in Montana right now.

841
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's been you know, wolves as a through

842
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: line since Yellowstone season one. Like wolves and the question

843
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: of these wolves what they represent, both literally, metaphorically and logistically,

844
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: that's been a part of Yellowstone from the very beginning.

845
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: And it does feel like in season five here, as

846
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: the Duttons are increasingly distracted, you know, Rip describes it

847
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: as a you know, nero fiddling while Rome burns, you know,

848
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: as are increasingly distracted, mistakes like this are happening at

849
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: the worst possible juncture. You know, the forces are spread

850
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: more thin than ever before, and little mistakes like this

851
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: start creeping in through the cracks. You know, this is

852
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: the kind of mistake that case you know, Casey has

853
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: a very specific sort of sacred relationship to these wolves, right.

854
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: You know, John Dutton understands John Dutton would never make

855
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: this mistake. Rip might not ever make this mistake. But

856
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: these decisions are having to sort of trickle down further

857
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: and further as the forces are spread more and more thin,

858
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: until mistakes like this can start to sort of creep through. Yeah,

859
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see. This is something that

860
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: I think we're going to be tracking like a little

861
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: GPS collar for the rest of the season, you know,

862
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: to see how this how this plays out.

863
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 4: It definitely feels like the thing that's going to come

864
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 4: back and bite you in the butt. It just feels

865
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: like at every turn, this is the thing that's going

866
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 4: to come back. And so it has I mean, I

867
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: I find that to be a brilliant writing device.

868
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: And it does come back to bite them in the

869
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: ass very quickly, because in episode three, all of a sudden,

870
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: wildlife agents are showing up looking for these wolves, right,

871
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Yeah, they're they're engaged in

872
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: this complicated, elaborate cover up to try to basically protect

873
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: themselves from the legal ramifications of having shot these wolves,

874
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, and this is a you know, it's a

875
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: it's a big, big crisis. It's a little mistake that

876
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: can turn into a big crisis for the ranch.

877
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: Which isn't even bigger crisis now because of course John is.

878
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: Governor. So it's one thing if just.

879
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: A very massive landowner has it, but now he is,

880
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: he is in public office.

881
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: It's a huge scandal for a governor. Basically, this could

882
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 1: cost them everything. It's a little mistake that could cost

883
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: them everything. I'm trying to think what the saying is

884
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: for want of a horseshoe, for want of a horseshoe nail.

885
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, Rome burned. It's all about Rome.

886
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: I'm very impressed with your idioms in general.

887
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: But I get like half of them. I'm always combining them.

888
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: You know, two birds in the bush is worth an

889
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: apple a day. Listen. So, also in episodes two and three,

890
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: in our flashback sequences, we're getting more sort of we're

891
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: revealing more and more of the history, the recent history

892
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: of the Dutton rancher. We're also seeing a sort of

893
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: recent struggle that the Dutton's had with pesticides. We're seeing

894
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: the return of the King Josh Lucas as young John Dutton,

895
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: and it's so fun. I love this moment in the

896
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: Dutton history because Josh Lucas John Dutton is transformed after

897
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: having lost his wife. When we saw Josh Lucas in

898
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: season one, it was he had a sort of lightness

899
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: to him, a kind of joy and ease to him.

900
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: As we's reintroduced here, we're seeing that the weight of

901
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: the loss of his wife, the weight of the responsibility

902
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: of managing this family and the ranch without his anchor,

903
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: without his wife to help him keep his family together,

904
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: is weighing on him heavily. I really am so impressed

905
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: and kind of inspired and like just just kind of

906
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: awestruck by the weight that Josh Lucas is bringing to

907
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: John Dutton in this season. You really it's connecting the

908
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: dots between the young John Dutton we saw in season

909
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: one of Yellowstone and and John Dutton as played by

910
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner in season five of Yellowstone. It's a really

911
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: cool performance.

912
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh is like an incredibly thoughtful, surgical actor, and

913
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 4: none of those choices are happen. Those are all very

914
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 4: conscious choices. None of that is fluke on his part.

915
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: He's so deeply thoughtful.

916
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: It's such an exciting, such an exciting performance. It really,

917
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, all those actors in that timeline. That's one

918
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: of my favorite things about this season is getting to

919
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: sort of explore that recent history, these characters that we

920
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: know so well, getting to see the forces that made

921
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: them the way they are now. Also in episode three, uh,

922
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: Sarah Atwood finally sort of uh springs her trap on Jamie.

923
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: So market equities and the mini forces uh target ranch.

924
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: I know they've identified Jamie as a kind of potential

925
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: vulnerability for the Dutton ranch, for the Dutton you know,

926
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: Phalanx to keep sticking with this Roman imagery. Oh boy,

927
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: if you're going you know, if you're like a Rome

928
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: scholar listening to this, and I'm biffinite left and right.

929
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: I never claimed to be an expert on Rome. I'm

930
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: not actually an expert on anything. I'm just a moron.

931
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. I'm sorry for what I said about Rome. Listen, listen, listen.

932
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: The point is that Jamie has been identified as the

933
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: kind of weak link here, and Sarah Atwood is springing

934
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: her trap. She's she's sort of setting into motion this

935
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: manipulation of Jamie, which is very very exciting because Wes

936
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: Bentley like no, but no character on the show has

937
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: been through quite what Wes Bentley's Jamie has been through.

938
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: No, No, And what makes it hard is that Wes

939
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: Bentley is truly one of the nicest people I have

940
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: ever met, and also just funny as all get out,

941
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: and those two things we don't really get to see

942
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: much of. You know, Jamie is not a laugh riot.

943
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: In season episode five oh one, he really gets me

944
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: with that. And when he goes we're all going to jail,

945
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: that is like, no, it's getting paid to LLC in Utah,

946
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: and Jamie's like, we're all going to jail. It's very good.

947
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: He's amazing.

948
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: And then another very exciting development in a very exciting

949
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: sort of loose end here in season five, episode three,

950
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: basically Beth's feeling good. She's made a masterful power play

951
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 1: to protect the rand from market equities. She says, hey,

952
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: fuck it, take me to the bar. Let's go to

953
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: the bar, and everybody loads up and rides out and

954
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: goes to the bar. Will you talk about that a

955
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: little bit because I can't wait to hear what that

956
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: was like behind the scenes.

957
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't talk about it without talking about the

958
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 4: moment before in the bunk.

959
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 5: House where she throws out the suggestion of.

960
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: Going to the bar, and there was this amazing moment

961
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: on set where you know, Rip is definitely sort of

962
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 4: the boss that we report to, but now we have

963
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: the boss boss's daughter telling us what to do, and

964
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: it's this incredible conflict of interest where we're like, do

965
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 4: we listen to Rip? Do we listen to her? We

966
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: were all hoping that we got to go along with her,

967
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 4: and we did. Stepping into that bar that night was

968
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 4: really was really amazing because they did such a great

969
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: job of making sure everybody looked and felt a bit

970
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 4: like phony cow boys basically like me. And now I

971
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 4: got to be on the other side of that sort

972
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: of feeling some not disdain, but just you know, I

973
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: felt like they're a bunch of phony, blownies. And yeah,

974
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 4: it was another one of those scenes where you've got

975
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 4: a bunch of we've you know, we've got so much

976
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: cast in that scene. Of course, there's an amazing fight

977
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 4: that breaks out. Jay Rod choreographed that that was incredibly fun.

978
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: We definitely we definitely had some improvised moments in that

979
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: fight scene. There was definitely a few takes. It's you

980
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 4: know where it was like, okay, guys improvise, which is

981
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: always slightly terrifying but leads to some fight gems. But no,

982
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: Jay rod is actually just to not make light of that.

983
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: Jay Rohdd is such an incredible stunt coordinator. He's one

984
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 4: of the most technical people I know. And he not

985
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: only thinks like a stunt coordinator, he thinks like a writer,

986
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: he thinks like a direct or, he thinks like an actor.

987
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: He's he's sort of brilliant. That scene was a blast.

988
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: Dancing with Kelly Riley was a blast. And then of

989
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: course we have the great moment where the character Hayley,

990
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: who is you know, played perfectly by Ashley Platts. Ashley

991
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 4: Peth is lovely in real life and just a nightmare

992
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: of a character in that first scene and comes up

993
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 4: to her and I got the best seat in the

994
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 4: house because I sort of got to be almost like

995
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: a parrot on Kelly's shoulder when she brought that bottle

996
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: down on her head. And that actress, I mean it

997
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: was breakaway or I have no idea what it was

998
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 4: made out of, but she she took whatever looked like

999
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: a real bottle and she took it, took it on

1000
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: the head and she sold that real well.

1001
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: So Beth, you know, can't help herself, starts this huge fight.

1002
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: It devolves into a massive scrum. The cops show up,

1003
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: break this thing up. And there's this important sort of

1004
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: idea that's introduced here, which is that there's a there's

1005
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: a new sheriff in town.

1006
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 5: Right.

1007
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: So, for the first four seasons, Sheriff Haskell was an

1008
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: ally to the Dutton's, a sort of friend to John Dutton,

1009
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: a longtime sort of supporter of the Duttons and their mission.

1010
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: Now we've got Sheriff Ramsey, who's been played by Rob

1011
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: Kirkland since season two. He's the new sheriff and it's

1012
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: a it's a whole new ballgame. Now he's not quite

1013
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: so friendly.

1014
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like, you know, we're Taylor's ending on

1015
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: this note again of everything is sort of a new

1016
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 4: ballgame at every turn, that that the things that were

1017
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 4: stacked in the Dutton's favor are no longer and it's

1018
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 4: just another threat. And as as the Dutton world expands,

1019
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 4: the threats around them get taller, uh and more potent.

1020
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's more and more sort of holes in the armor,

1021
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: which is a really I gotta say, Beth, not a

1022
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: great time to go to jail at a time when

1023
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, John's resources are spread so thin, when they've

1024
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: got so few allies. Beth did not pick a great

1025
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: time to get thrown into jail for starting a bar fight.

1026
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: There was no world where that girl wasn't getting hit

1027
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 5: in the face.

1028
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: If it wasn't, there was just no world where it

1029
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna happen.

1030
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let Teeter do it, you know what I mean,

1031
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: Let someone who's you know, you know.

1032
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 4: When we were shooting that, I had that the thought

1033
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: is Teeter, like, you know, like I was ready to

1034
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: take this on, Like I was like, I'm gonna you know,

1035
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 4: and then when she clocked her in the head. I

1036
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: mean there was one take I didn't even know it

1037
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: came out of my mouth. She hit her, She hit

1038
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 4: her so hard I went Jesus.

1039
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean.

1040
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 5: It was she, she had it. I mean, Beth is

1041
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 5: the toughest female character of all time.

1042
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: She really is the wrong person to pick a fight with.

1043
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: And we're going to, you know, we'll see the consequences

1044
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: of BET's actions, of everybody's sort of actions moving forward,

1045
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: and we could talk about this forever. This is three

1046
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes of Yellowstone ever, episodes one, two,

1047
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: and three here. And I also I can't wait to

1048
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: talk to some of these actors. I can't wait to

1049
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: dig even deeper moving forward as the stories. As these

1050
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: stories progress, all these exciting new plot lines sort of

1051
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: thunder forward, I can't wait to dig deeper and deeper

1052
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: into them.

1053
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 4: I just want to thank you very much for allowing

1054
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 4: me to join you as a host. Alongside you, I

1055
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 4: appreciate your guidance, I enjoy your company, and I adore

1056
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: our friendship, and I look forward to digging into the episodes,

1057
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: interviewing actors and hopefully getting to talk with some people

1058
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: who live the life that we portray on screen and

1059
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: sort of get into the world that is the inspiration

1060
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 4: for Yellowstone, and hopefully, you know, eat some good food

1061
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: and get some good wine along the way.

1062
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you said it way better than I ever

1063
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: could have. Thank you for joining us on the Official

1064
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: Yellowstone Podcast. We'll be back very soon to dig deeper.

1065
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: By now, listen to the Official Yellowstone Podcast every Sunday

1066
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 4: on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts,