WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Line Dancing? 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.600 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:16.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.200 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.520 ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.880 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:36.199 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:41.440 It is Wednesday, October twenty seventh, twenty twenty one, season seventeen, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.440 episode number forty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.000 The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.320 the start, I got my full crew here, Nick Amber 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:53.520 and Dave Nick forty eight most quick? All right, good, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.680 we know Moose forty eight. Joe to all time. Joe, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.400 T stop. It's my forty eight. Yeah, I was doing. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.720 There's a right answer, and then there's my answer. And 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.800 then Dave has an answer too, because he kind of 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.319 has all the answers. Should be Moose for forty eight. Yeah, sure, 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.720 I'm not arguing that, no doubt perfect. All right, We're 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.800 gonna jump right in. We got a lot to talk about. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.920 Coach McCarthy just had his press conference, and uh, I 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.520 know he Amber walked by my office and we both 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.200 looked at each other like, Wow, that was that was 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.160 interesting all to talk about Lyle Collins. We'll get to 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:24.720 that in just a second. I want to start first 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.240 with Dak Prescott. One thing that he said was that 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.760 he's improved every day, which is a good thing. But 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.480 he did say a few other things that were a 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.520 little curious. Let's start first with Let's start first with 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.080 how much is he expected to do today? How are 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.679 they going to kind of work him today getting ready 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.200 for this game. I mean, he's gonna he's gonna do 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.200 some work. I mean individual, he's gonna be He's gonna 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.440 just kind of bounce around. It sounds like and and 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.640 and you know, throw some into their fun fundamental period, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.960 combo period. I don't really know what all those names are. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.640 I mean, I don't think he's gonna be doing a 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.840 lot of team I think Cooper Rush is going to 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.920 be doing some of that. He you know, it's Wednesdy, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.440 he'll get he'll he'll kind of ramp himself up to that. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.240 And that's what I feel like it'll happen now. I mean, 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.519 it'll it'll probably be a game time decision. That's what 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.720 sounds right, Yeah, I think it's exactly where we thought 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.240 it would be. To be honest with you, he's gonna 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.880 start practice. They they do forty minutes of practice before 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.680 they even do anything resembling team period, so there's a 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.040 lot of it. I mean, quarterbacks have their own thing, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.560 quarterback school, where they work on drops and rolls, outs 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.720 and all that and in center exchange before they ever 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.240 even joined the rest of the team. So I mean 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.560 that's almost an hour of practice that they'll that he'll 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.440 take part in individual drills, pat and go all that 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.119 type of stuff, and then and then McCarthy said, they'll 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.440 evaluate how he feels when that's over, and that'll probably 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.720 determine how much of team he does, if any. It's 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.679 the first practice of the week. They'll do it again 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:58.160 tomorrow and I'm game time. I feel like by Sunday morning, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.760 you have an idea of what you're gonna do with him, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.400 and McCarthy's McCarthy said, you know, he's preparing as if 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.880 he'll be able to play. They haven't made that decision yet. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.760 I just feel like by the time everybody wakes up 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.720 on Sunday morning, they'll know here's the plot that's not 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.120 what a game time decision is. Though, I mean, you're right, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.079 I mean, I think they know now. I mean, I mean, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.680 I think you're you're right. You'll wake up Sunday morning, 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.919 but I mean I think it'll be I think we'll 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.359 kind of know everything what's going on until like an 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.480 hour and a half before kickoff. I feel like the 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.560 comparison he made was supposed to give you some kind 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.840 of peace, and I think, oh, things are good, But 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.840 then to me, not really it didn't. Not that I'm 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.120 like super concerned, but you talk about Aaron Rodgers and 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.320 then talk about playoffs and being that far down at 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.280 that point you only have a few games into play 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.720 like you give it all. But we're still kind of 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.640 midway through the season, and I know they're they're gonna 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.480 make the right decision, you know, whether that's they think 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.040 they he can go ahead and play or maybe sit 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.119 one out to give it some rest. But it's so difficult. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.520 He said three words that he just threw in the 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.720 end of a sentence, go for it. Where are you going? 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.200 It's week seven? Okay, yeah, and there were some other words. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.760 He just said it's week seven, it's actually a week eight, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.880 so yeah, yeah, but but there are also some other 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.280 words in there that to me gave me reason to 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.800 have pause. Like one thing he said was he said, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.239 until he clears the threshold, and he said that multiple times. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.719 We're not ready. And then he talked about how we 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.680 don't want this to turn into a week to week 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.080 type thing. That was another thing he said. And then 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.120 this is the part that he said this multiple times 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.720 as well, he said until he's full go with no limitations. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.400 I'm like, WHOA, well, back up, I thought I always 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.120 assumed if he's what you said yesterday, dave eighty percent, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.200 if he's eighty five percent, and then he's still better 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.160 than that. Whatever else you're gonna throw out there, and 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.479 you're gonna give it a go. This is the first 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.320 time I've heard them talk about it from the standpoint 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.920 of no, we really want to get him to point 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.839 where he's full goal with no limitations. And again he 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.559 said that multiple times. That gave me reason for pause. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:02.680 You guys got the same reaction to that. No, not 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.800 really could be gamesmanship. I mean there's a lot of 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.640 things that could be a party. I don't one hundred 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.680 percent believe anything that he says, and that's not specific 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.960 to Mike McCarthy. It's the gamesmanship of the league. It's 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.560 not wanting to give too much away. We'll get into 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.880 lyel and how less than happy lot to talk about that. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.120 He seemed less than happy about the amount of detail 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.160 that people were getting into there. So no, I mean 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.719 and uh not that not that like I mean, I 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.320 know they want him to be fully healthy with no limitations, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.839 but again like every player and nobody is one hundred 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:38.120 percent with no limitations whatsoever. It doesn't register with me, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.120 especially again, like I feel like we do this all 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:42.880 the time, Like on win, I don't I don't care 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.880 what anybody says or does on Wednesday. It's Thursday, Friday, 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.520 Saturday where I where my radar starts to go up. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.200 It sucks that we always have to analyze word by 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.200 word and like try to figure things out, even though 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.680 you know that's how you have to be as a coach. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.200 I mean, if I was a coach, I would be 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:02.280 the same exact way, if worse. But uh, it just 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.480 sucks out. We're always trying to read into like between 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.560 the lines and everything. But it was curious, like us 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.720 how many times he said certain things and honestly that 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.200 that is the NFL, like they spend the whole week 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.919 with all these storylines, and as Dax said, given the 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.159 media and fans something to talk about, you keep the 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.320 soap opera going and then you get to Sunday and 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.040 you get to see how it plays out. So yeah, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.080 the part of this is is is us obviously talking 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.600 about it and making something of it. But I do 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.279 think it was interesting. Those were the words he chose, 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.560 and he chose to say them multiple times, and so 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.320 I think it is something that's that's relevant to this conversation. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.960 All right, let's move on. Um, let's go to Lyle Collins. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.640 There were nick you sent last night. You sent us 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.160 the unofficial depth chart just as a kind of like, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.719 oh wow, this is interesting, and it showed Lyle Collins 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.400 not only as the start as not the starter at 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.680 right tackle. It showed him as the backup there, but 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:01.080 it also showed him as the backup at left guard. Uh. So, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.320 let's start first with what's the most likely reason that 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.240 you think they put this on the unofficial depth chart? 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.280 Because obviously somebody made the decision to put this out there. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.800 It's kind of funny because he kind of coach McCarthy. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.840 He looked over at Rich and kind of was like, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.120 you know, gave him a look that that didn't inspire 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.960 a lot of confidence. But it was my point from 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.760 a minute ago. Yeah, So I don't know if he 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.080 was trying to escape go to him, or if he 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.640 was just messing with him, who knows, but probably letting 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.440 him know that that's what the depth chart looked like. Wow, No, 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.239 I mean that's probably yes, he didn't do the depth chart. Okay, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.440 he's probably letting him know that that's that's what the 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.800 chart where guys maybe put this out that what well, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.920 I'm just saying no, I mean, yeah, they put it 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.280 out that that's what then, and that's right. I mean 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.040 that they did it. That's what they're doing. I mean, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.120 I'm just saying I don't I don't think it goes 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.080 to that level. I don't know. Could be Rich Rich 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.840 doesn't make the depth chart, right, that's right, and so 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.440 he's just kind of messing with him a little bit. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:53.920 But it was fun. It was fun for all of 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.600 us same way. But but go ahead, Nick, they're moving 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.240 him to left a card. I mean, that's what that's 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.480 what it looks like. They don't like what's what's happening 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.600 with Connor Williams with those holding pilmoedies And it sounds 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.960 like Terrence Steele's playing so well that they need to 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.400 figure out and move in the left guard. It's it's 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.160 what fans, it's it's it's what the fans have been 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.120 saying forever, and usually that doesn't happen. But that's what 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.320 it sounds like it's happening. I thought that was fantasy 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.120 football nonsense. That's what I got told. Yeah, that's what 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.400 I was never gonna let that go over. I just 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.880 I'm surprised, And yeah, I gotta give a lot of 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.240 fans a lot of credit for suggesting this. I didn't 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.360 think it would happen, and it does. It may I mean, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:38.000 it makes me ask so many questions because I think 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.200 Lyle Collins is a purely better player than Terrence Steele 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.439 right now. Um, But I also like, is Connor Williams 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:50.560 that big of a problem? Is this um indicative of 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.400 some sort of consternation about Lyle that they're like, I mean, which, 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.679 on one hand, I kind of appreciate that they're like, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.600 at the very least, you gotta earn right tackle back. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.080 We're not just going to hand it to you. And 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.920 maybe that is quote unquote punishment, or maybe that's just 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.080 more of about how good Terrence Steel has been. On 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:09.720 top of that, if you're going to take a guy 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.040 that makes fifty million dollars out of the starting lineup, 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.839 it makes me ask questions about the future. Okay, so 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.240 let me ask you this, And that was where I 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.400 was going to go. I want to know from you guys, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.600 each of you guys, which you think is the most 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.959 likely reason, because we don't know that there's going to 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.200 be a move yet, the most likely reason that it 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.280 is official, it's on the unofficial depth chart in the 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.280 way that it is both at tackle and at guard, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.160 one that still is considered to be a better option 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.640 at this time. That can be about continuity. That can 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:39.200 be about how Steel is playing. Two, that the Cowboys 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.840 are sending a message Slyle that maybe they weren't happy 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.080 with all of this stuff that's transpired that led to 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.720 the five weeks suspension, and how maybe he handled that situation. Three, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.760 They just temporary, This is just temporary, temporary. Well, they 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.200 gauge his readiness, they've talked about that and seeing where 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.120 he is right now, and is in coming back or 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.400 four that you think this is much more or about 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.040 getting the best five guys on the field, and they're thinking, 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.360 let's prepare him to maybe become the next guard, the 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.640 starting left guard, and keep your best five on the field. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.800 Still a tackle which you think is behind this more? 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.079 You want to five? Okay, give me five. I think 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.920 it's a whole of the above. I think every one 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.040 of those situations take the cop out. I think no 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.240 one has to be more than the other. Right. I 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.680 don't know the percentages on all that, but I think 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.640 you're right about every single one of those. Okay, every 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.760 every one of those seems seems to be one which 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.360 one about sending a message. Yeah, I think that one. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:40.600 You don't think no because I mean you no, because 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.720 on the field you forget the message talk outside the field, 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.880 but game day, if you know, if he's really your 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.040 best guy or whatever, regardless of what he did outside 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:52.960 the field. But you don't think you don't think coaches 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.679 sometimes make make things clear to their teams by what 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.960 they do. And what I mean by that is they're 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.439 telling not only lie but everybody else on the team. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.240 If you're not going to be reliable if you're not 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.800 going to do the things that you need to do 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.160 as a member of this team and as a member 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.319 of the NFL player in the NFL, then your job 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.640 is not securious. But it depends how how much it 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.360 hurts you on game day. Like if if solid has 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.880 it hurt it's also not game day. I mean, this 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.000 is okay, I'm just saying, okay, I'm just saying. The 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.760 point is, if you're fully solid at the old line 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.920 at every single position, then whatever, you know, but you're 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.040 not so at the end of the day, I don't 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.560 think it's about sending a message. You can portray that 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.280 off the field and whatever. At this point, I think it's, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.240 you know, he needs to get ready. I don't think 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.800 he's fully ready to go out there, although I do 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.560 think he's a great player and he can do the job. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.480 He's shown it in the past. But at the same time, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.120 tern still has done a phenomenal job. And then you 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.199 got Connor William who unfortunately is one of the weak links. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.320 I mean, there are other areas too, like the center, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.200 and we've talked about that, but Connor, he's a veteran guy. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.160 He should not be making the mistakes he's been making 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:14.040 and this is his contract here, right so he should 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.960 be stepping it up. But I don't know. I love it. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.439 I love it. I love it. I love what's happening 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.280 right now, and I love the PI a little bit. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.160 But the point is, I just love the fact that 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.360 this coaching staff is willing to make things decisions like 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:34.239 that and put things out there like that, completely opposite 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.440 to what we've been used to in the past with 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.600 like Jason Garrett, which so I have a few thoughts there. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.920 I absolutely think it's at least it's not purely about 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.920 sending a message, but it's part of it. And it 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:52.880 goes back to McCarthy. Adamantly tried to keep from moving 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.920 Zach or talking about Zach to tackle. There's a variety 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.400 of reasons for that, but Zach is arguably the most 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:04.400 reliable member of this entire offense, right, you and you 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.120 reward that. Lyle Collins not only hasn't been available, but 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.280 let's just be honest, he has embarrassed the organization a 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.400 little bit this last month or so. The comments that 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.360 come out there from the testimony. I'm sure Prescott didn't 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.720 appreciate some of that being brought to light. So I 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.360 do think there's a little bit of that to this 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.680 of like we're not just gonna plug you back in 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.120 May if Terrence Steele was playing terribly, they might, but 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.760 they're like, we hate to say we don't need you, 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.200 but it's like like you lost your job and it's 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.040 your own fault that you lost your job, and we're 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.320 not just going to hand it back to you. I 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:42.080 think if Lyle had the dependability of Zach Martin, maybe 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.600 we're not having this conversation. I don't I don't know that, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.480 but it seems plausible to me. Yeah, probably wouldn't have 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.800 been suspended if he did. Yeah, well that's the point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.800 I mean it all it's a domino effect. Terrence Steele 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.839 is playing better, and he's playing I mean, he's playing 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.240 really well. I don't know, I'm not saying better. Your 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.559 point this morning on the radio, and I thought it 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.120 was a good point that a lot of people want 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.160 to say he's playing well on a curve. He actually 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:10.480 playing well. Put him on a curve. Well, yeah, it's expectations. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.319 I mean that that was the Chargers game. After that, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.440 he's just continuing to do it. And and then now 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.920 it didn't help Connor Williams is timing that he played 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.920 the way he did in New England and just had 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.400 those penalties, and then the fact that Lyle's done it 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.360 in the past and he's played there, and it's about 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.240 getting five best linemen? I will I think. I I mean, 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.160 I don't get me wrong, Connor did not have a 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.200 good game in New England, but it feels knee jerk 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.120 to me. I think he's been pretty good this season. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.440 I think he had a horrible game against the Patriots. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.640 I don't like. I don't think he's been this problem 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.400 with the offensive line throughout the entire first six weeks 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.880 of the season. And that is that's what makes me 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.160 one like, is it purely about quote unquote best five? 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.720 Is a guy that hasn't played guards since September of 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.880 twenty sixteen better than a guy who's only missed three 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.320 games at that position the last three years? Is that true? Well? 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.360 I don't know. I'll tell you. If he can push 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.320 people back, yeah, if if this adds them some beef 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.640 in the running game, then yeah, I think so. And 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.320 you know what, who's to say that it's only two moves? 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.760 I mean, what if they're not done shuffling. What if 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.960 they're gonna try this Connor Williams at center again. Honestly, 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.480 as I was listening to that press conference this morning, 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.960 I didn't need more. The more I started to think, like, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.920 I think they do believe some of the things that 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.760 we have been talking about. Where you look the center 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.040 in the in the left guard position, and I think 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.080 they think they're a bit vulnerable there and they feel like, hey, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.440 with these extra pieces, we're getting Lyle back. Connor as 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.800 Connor McGovern has played well in the role that they've 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.560 had for him, So if we keep developing him, maybe 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.320 we might be a little bit better off as we 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.280 get later in the season. I just think right now 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.480 I'm interested to see where they go. I don't think 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.160 Connor Williams has been horrible. I do think Connor Williams 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.640 has some moments that weren't great, and I think in 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.840 the running game you see it more than maybe even 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.360 in the passing game. But that all being said, I 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.840 think that if you can get Lyle in there, this 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.840 is more about Connor Williams and it is Lyle because 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.440 I don't think when Lyle was at guard any of 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.760 us were like, man, this is this spot, so you 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.440 know it's really just about them, I think trying to 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.800 find the best five. Do you think Lyle's the starting 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.160 art right tackleing next season? Well, that's I don't know. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.240 It's not something that needs to be answered right now. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.000 I do think I think Lyle Collins is a professional 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.040 and if we're so far ahead of ourselves like he has, 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.680 I mean, he's technically not a starter at either position, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.280 but if they need him to play guard, he'll do it. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.640 But you gotta recognize that that's not where he wants 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.240 to be. Yeah, well, hold on, I don't necessarily think 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.520 it's we're way ahead of ourselves. I think it's a 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.920 question of you know, when he got suspended, did that 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.800 change his contract to the point where maybe he's not 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.040 going to be here next year? If Terrence Steel, if 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.320 they say this guy, keep playing him this like we 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.200 did last year, Keep playing him, keep playing him. He's 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.080 gonna get better and better. He's our guy. Well, if 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.640 he's the guy, then you keep playing them. It's kind 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.480 of like when a rookie. You draft a rookie, but 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.920 you have this veteran that you don't really love, but 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.800 that's why you drafted the rookie quarterback, but like, you 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.960 gotta play him? When when does the future start? And 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.119 that's that's why I wonder, like, are we at this 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.720 point where I don't want to play him. I don't 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.440 mean to say that you're ahead of yourself, because that's 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.680 not a conversation worth having. It's just they haven't None 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.639 of these decisions have actually been made. I mean, like 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.640 theoretically Lyle could be back at tackle within the next 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.159 week or two. Yeah, just just just to play devil's advocate. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.359 But you're absolutely right, But guess oh, sorry, this team 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.800 needs cap space. Lyle Collins makes fifty million dollars. If 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.040 you feel that great about Terrence Steele, Yeah, these are 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.439 decisions you gotta consider, you gotta. You know, Michael Gallup 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.240 needs a contract, Dalton Schultz needs a contract, Randy Gregory 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.840 needs a contract, a million other things that aren't coming 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.000 to my mind right now. And if you feel that strongly, well, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.600 based on everything we just said, I think we're okay there. No, 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.280 but you know, Layton Vanderish needs a contract. Yeah, but 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.360 I think you go back to what Duke Manny Weather 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.440 say when he was on our show. He compared Terrence 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.840 Steele to Jeremy Parnell, who went on have a pretty 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.959 good career as a tackle with the Jaguars. I think 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.879 it was I need somebody better than that to replace 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.280 Layl calling no my point. My point though, is my 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.879 point though, is I think he developed into what was 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.040 a very very decent I would say more than decent, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.040 probably a solid to a little bit above average tackle 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.680 in the NFL. Right. My point is, what we know 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.399 about the NFL is younger and cheaper is better. And 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.560 so if you can get a cheaper contract for a 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.160 guy that you think is comparable, maybe a little less, 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.320 but comparable and still young, I think the Cowboys might 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.480 consider that. And that's the part that gets interesting in 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.919 this whole scenario. If Terrence Steele is your right tackle 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.200 moving forward for the rest of this season, it's hard 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.600 for me to imagine Lyle Collins is back next year. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.280 Whether that's yeah, I mean, you find a way to 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.159 move on, or you find a trade partner or whatever. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.159 But that is a I think that's kind of a 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.280 line in the sand. And I'm not like, I don't 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.480 want to put words on lyall that he's like, I'm 0:18:58.480 --> 0:18:59.760 out of here. If you won't play me. I just 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.399 think he probably sees himself as a tackle and you 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.639 have a chance to have a starting right tackle who's 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.760 making a fraction of that. It just makes sense. Well, 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:11.320 I think when you throw Dak's situation into the mix, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:15.040 it's like we're at if he plays and he's health 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.800 or whatever, you're still gonna be watching out for him regardless, 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.480 you know. And maybe he plays but he's not his 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:27.240