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Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: says we are kicking off our combine coverage actually begun

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Speaker 2: by wes Uler.

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Speaker 3: Leadoff hitter, leadoff hitter. He is.

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Speaker 2: He's a classic old school you know. Maybe lay down

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Speaker 2: a bunt, use the speeds of.

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Speaker 4: Mostly like second basement with speed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Not afraid to drop down the punt right, not afraid

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Speaker 2: to hopefully gets on distracts the picture.

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Speaker 3: Of that kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Maybe steal second for you.

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Speaker 3: That's right, smart, It's exactly right. But good young spry legs.

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Speaker 3: Good that's right, young spry legs. That's right.

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Speaker 4: Might lean into a fastball for you to give them first,

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Speaker 4: that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, take them with not gonna you know, one

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Speaker 2: home run and six hundred bats.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, there's a power hitter. So uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was just thinking as we were in

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Speaker 2: the break, you know, so fans will come up to me, Hey,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about this? There's or you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes the pirates, you what you think about the pirates.

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Speaker 2: But this is I'm in that situation.

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Speaker 3: I'm in.

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Speaker 2: I'm in fan mode here because I'm with my buddy

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, who who knows all things on that and

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Speaker 2: that is a good that's a good place for me

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I do get geared up though, just

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Speaker 4: sitting at the table for the first of the week,

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty fired up.

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Speaker 3: Matt's like, I know I know this person, that person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm scoping. They don't know, but I'm on the hunt.

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Speaker 2: He's He's got everybody here already fearful and looking for

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Speaker 2: a guest. And we're only only eight seconds.

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Speaker 4: Out of the the show here, I think lined up already,

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Speaker 4: I've been good fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: Good Man we'll be uh, we'll be here all week

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Speaker 2: getting you ready for and reporting on the combine and

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Speaker 2: of course looking forward to the draft. You know, one

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Speaker 2: of the things that I wanted to ask you before

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Speaker 2: we got too far down the road because you and

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Speaker 2: I haven't had the opportunity to talk about this, but

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Speaker 2: I want to take a step back to the coaching

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Speaker 2: staff just in general. What is your take on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers coaching staff. I mean, you know, the first time

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Speaker 2: in two decades you got a new staff to evaluate.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so I do have takes, and I always preface

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Speaker 4: these takes by one of the hardest things in my

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Speaker 4: job to comment on, along with injuries is assistant coaches

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Speaker 4: because I've been in buildings and I understand what really

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Speaker 4: really good ones do behind the scenes and what not

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Speaker 4: so good ones do and people outside the walls would

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Speaker 4: never know, you know, Like especially assistant coaches coordinators. I

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Speaker 4: think we have a pretty good handle on play calling.

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Speaker 4: The reputation they've at least been in the league. They

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Speaker 4: they talked to media here and there. But a lot

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Speaker 4: of these guys are getting promoted from position coaches to

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Speaker 4: coordinators or from new teams or even the new offensive

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Speaker 4: call plays and he's not gonna call plays here. So

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Speaker 4: it's hard to comment on a lot of these things.

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Speaker 4: But my big picture thinking is I'm glad that the

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Speaker 4: staff grew by two people.

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Speaker 3: I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of that I think is because of

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Speaker 4: to tell you that, and all these coaches have strengthen

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Speaker 4: It's just there's only so many hours in the day

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Speaker 4: From what I understand, I've never spoken to him about

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Speaker 4: He's more worried about the quarterbacks footwork, you know, and

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Speaker 4: this is not uncommon for play calling coaches either, is

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Speaker 4: clock management, game management. And so they hired an assistant

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Speaker 4: seeing that. That's it, and that's what they did with Dallas.

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Speaker 4: It's basically saying, Hey, I'm gonna have this guy in

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Speaker 4: I also think it's cool to have a second and

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Speaker 4: I think it's telling too. Maybe I'm looking too much

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming Tom Arth will be the starter's guy. You know,

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Speaker 4: if it's Rogers, those two are going to be the

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Speaker 4: varsity where this guy is gonna be whoever the young

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Speaker 4: named later through the draft the next couple of years.

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Speaker 4: He's the developmental guy, you know. Me, that's just my

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Speaker 4: hunch because that would make more sense. There's only three

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Speaker 4: so during the course of the week, I bet they're

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Speaker 4: doing more quarterback development, which I really think is important.

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Speaker 4: I really like the Hires as a whole, and I'm

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Speaker 4: going to talk about both sides of my mouth. I

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Speaker 4: like that almost everybody knows someone from another stop. But

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Speaker 4: it wouldn't break have broke my heart to have one

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Speaker 4: from the rams. It never worked with anybody else. Just

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Speaker 4: look at the world differently, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: fresh ideas. But also I love that they kept Arth

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Speaker 4: And maybe you could even bring this up to Omar.

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Speaker 4: But I mean I would imagine like, since they've been

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Speaker 4: from last year's tape to this year's like maybe a

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Speaker 4: So I think that there's something to be said for

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Speaker 4: this is why we did what we did last year.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's cool to keep those guys back.

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Speaker 4: And this sounds harsh, and it's just a question. And

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Speaker 4: probably the last thing I have on the coaching staff

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Speaker 2: And going right by right, Well, I didn't get close enough,

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Speaker 4: Get the fish, the Olympic stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, swing by here, but he took a rite before

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Speaker 4: So people I trust often called D line, and this

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like a lion tamer in that you

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Speaker 4: we've seen defensive line coaches here going back to coach

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Speaker 4: that were you know, Bear Bryant disciples, Right, these two

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Speaker 4: just a little unproven and that's a big job for

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Speaker 4: just a little unproven. So you know, it's something just

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Speaker 2: One of the things that Mike McCarthy said in his

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Speaker 3: Might might be the other way around, square it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Does matter, neither one goes either one goes in the

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Speaker 3: So that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: But he talked about being on top of the trends

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Speaker 2: not being you know, you know, paddling that surfboard to

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Speaker 2: by the time. But yeah, that's right by the time

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Speaker 2: you get there, it's already gone. So but but also

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Speaker 2: the students have also talked about, you know, some traditional

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Speaker 2: I still think at heart they want to be a

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Speaker 2: physical football team. But what does that mean? And how

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Speaker 3: It's really hard.

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Speaker 4: It's really hard. And I know he said it and

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Speaker 4: that's easy, but even just being one year removed, you

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Speaker 4: have to take a step back because the league moves

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Speaker 4: so fast, you know, I mean in a way.

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Speaker 3: Well, and he said he was watching.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's on top of it. Crazy not right

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Speaker 4: taking a year off, but previously in his career and

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Speaker 4: You know, he said he wasn't real Uh this was

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Speaker 4: it's not like he's just sitting around doing nothing obviously.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that the league moves so incredibly fast

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Speaker 4: that keeping up with trends with anyone. And frankly, I

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Speaker 4: think the Steelers staff last year was not cutting edge,

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Speaker 4: you know. I think that they, especially on defense, will

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Speaker 4: his staff coming in. And it's I'm not cutting on

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Speaker 4: the old staff. It's just you've been doing the same

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Speaker 2: Right, and then you know constantly, So go down a

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Speaker 5: make you predictable, yes, but could it also.

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Speaker 2: Make you really good at what you do? You know, right,

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Speaker 4: It so often. Yeah, Like here's a great example. Seattle

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to overreact to trends either.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I think that I think that yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: And and where the next group of players would start,

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Speaker 4: And they took Grant and Nolan went a little quicker

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah Nolan. Nolan had already gone.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know who would you have taken If

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Speaker 2: And Mike pursued at joining us now, but I will not,

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Speaker 2: So I was, I'm not a scout. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: You got to know what you don't know, right, So

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Speaker 2: I need some people to scout for me. I'm not

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Speaker 2: So I don't know where he was. I don't know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what would have happened to hold your water?

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Speaker 3: Hope you got? Would you? I? Would you have traded down?

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Speaker 4: the Steelers pick twenty one. We build our final board,

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Speaker 4: And you never end up getting twenty one, that's right,

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Speaker 2: So Omar Khan addressed the Steelers media and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: right now. Mike Perzuda licking the lips. Ready to go, man,

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Speaker 1: This is live Cobley Chub that twenty twenty six NFL

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Speaker 1: Combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers

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Speaker 1: Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Indianapolis and the Combine and Mike

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Speaker 2: Persuda with myself, Rob King and Matt Williamson and Mike,

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Speaker 2: you were there for Omar Khan's press conference this morning,

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Speaker 3: know what, Okay, you know what. That's the coverage you

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Speaker 2: But now, just for those of you who are listening

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Speaker 3: Now, are you a better right handed type or left handed?

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Speaker 3: One handed? You got? I would have gotten the other

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Speaker 4: You got to switch it up. Okay, all right, you

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Speaker 2: Man, You see those people doing interviews, It's like you're

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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody move. You gotta build up them out, rotate.

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Speaker 3: There remains genuine enthusiasm regarding Will Howard, both on the

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Speaker 3: looking at quarterbacks in the draft and free agents. And

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00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 3: that's kind of the perfunctory stuff that guys in Omor's

438
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 3: position always say at events like this. But just you know,

439
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: if you're asking me how I interpreted things, I think

440
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 3: Rogers is coming back. I think he's going to work

441
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 3: with Will Howard again. And they're going to work with

442
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: Will Howard again. And I don't necessarily think the people

443
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 3: that are being mentioned on these candidate to be cutless.

444
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: I don't think the Steelers look at that the same

445
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: way as the people who are compiling these lists.

446
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 4: Okay, And those names, to me, Malik Harrison and Johnny

447
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 4: Smith are easy ones. You know that that saves you,

448
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 4: like fifteen million. Queen and Ramsey are two you mentioned

449
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 4: that are much better players. You can save a lot.

450
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: But to me, I think I'd lean just towards I'd

451
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 4: love to see what this defensive staff can do with

452
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 4: those guys, you know, before you make those kind of

453
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 4: rash decisions.

454
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Speaker 3: I'd kind of like to see what Ramsey can do

455
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: at slot. Like you, I think that's you do right.

456
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 3: And I just think the world of Patrick Queen. I'm

457
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: not speaking for them. I'm just I think he's a good,

458
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 3: hard nosed AFC North player and I think in the

459
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: locker room he is a leader. I think he's a

460
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: guy who cares profoundly about what happens to this team.

461
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: And I want to go to go in the games

462
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Speaker 3: with a bunch of Patrick Queens.

463
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Speaker 4: I think Ramsey has some of that to him too. Yeah,

464
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 4: I mean just the toughness competitor aund the block. And

465
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 4: I don't think you want to lose those things, you know, So.

466
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of and I do think you

467
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: bring up a good point, which is that And and frankly,

468
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: you know we're talking about how and I Mike, you

469
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: and I have had this conversation how I thought the

470
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: Steelers were a lot better than a lot of people

471
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: had said. You know, going into last season, nobody predicted

472
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: they're going to win the playoffs, much less win the

473
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: AFC North. Now, of course, missed field goal helped them

474
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: for sure, but they got there when a lot of

475
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: people didn't think they did.

476
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: Kind of like when I got missus the net and

477
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 3: hockey and a dust will win. Yeah, that's right, that

478
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: helps your team win. Yes, you know what you do

479
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: when you win that way, you say thank you and

480
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: you yes.

481
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 2: But so I was I was trying to the caveat

482
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: of not trying to fake myself sound like a genius

483
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: or or smarter than I'm trying to come off here.

484
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: But I think that Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson both

485
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lump them together. I think they're I think

486
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: they've gotten in a lot of areas criticism that kind

487
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: of mystifies me, to be perfectly honest, I think they're

488
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: much better players than a lot of people fans in

489
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 2: media have have portrayed them to.

490
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: Be on social media and what have you. I think

491
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: they're both good players.

492
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: Are they meet you in the hole and drive you

493
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: backwards into the ground. No, but that's not what you drafted.

494
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: That's not their skill set. I think they're both good players.

495
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, let's say you go

496
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: ahead and release Malie Harrison and and take the cap

497
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: money there you need some linebackers. You get rid of

498
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: Queen too. Who are your linebackers? Right, You've just created

499
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: a massive hole where none currently exists, and in my opinion,

500
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: is being a position is being manned by two very

501
00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 2: good players.

502
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Speaker 4: I mean that the same is true at safety. I

503
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: mean if Ramsey, even if he becomes a full time

504
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 4: slot corner, or if he were to re be released,

505
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: Elliott's like, your only safety is down on I mean,

506
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 4: Dougger and all these guys are up absolutely right, right.

507
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: I look at Queen and I think people expected more

508
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: splash because of the way he got here, in the

509
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: amount of money they gave him to come here, and

510
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: he's not necessarily a splashy player, you know, a bunch

511
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: of interceptions, bunch of sacks, that kind of thing. And

512
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson I remember talking to him by Latrobe last summer.

513
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: Patrick Queen had played one hundred percent of the defensive

514
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: snaps the year before, and Wilson said, my goal is

515
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: to do the same thing. I want to be right

516
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: there with him, never come off the field. Well, he's

517
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: got some work to do in the run game still,

518
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: but I think there's a lot to work with there.

519
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: I would want both of those guys. Some other Omar musings.

520
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: He was asked repeatedly about wide receiver. I figured he

521
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: would be, and he deflected that too. We weren't good

522
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: enough at any position. We didn't win a playoff game. Okay,

523
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: we got to be better everywhere. Now it occurred to

524
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: me listening to him say we didn't win a playoff game.

525
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: The response used to be, we didn't win the Super Bowl.

526
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: We weren't good enough, and it's kind of been piled back.

527
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a non intentional response to

528
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 3: all the criticism or some of the loud criticism amid

529
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: the fan base, like, Hey, I get they haven't won

530
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: a playoff game in a while. That's not the goal

531
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: to win a playoff game. The goal is to win

532
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: all of them raw. You know, I assume the Steelers

533
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: are still keep excite of that, But it was just

534
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: interesting to me the way ome or phrase that. And

535
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: then he talked a little bit in the podium session here,

536
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: not with the locals, but still expressing confidence and optimism

537
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: in Caleb Johnson and Roman Wilson for various.

538
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: We already brought them up that they're probably the happiest

539
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: two guys on the roster. About the coaching change, then

540
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 4: at least they get a new lease on life.

541
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Speaker 3: You would certainly seem to think they have a chance

542
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: to change that narrative now that they might not have

543
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 3: had otherwise.

544
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: But some interesting stuff to stay the least quick wide

545
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: receiver question for you since I haven't heard it yet,

546
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: but did anybody phrase it like, well, McCarthy's known for

547
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: eleven personnel with three receivers on the field, the former coach,

548
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: there's a lot of tight ends on the field, so

549
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 4: there's an obvious shortage of receivers currently under contract. Did

550
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 4: they address any questions like that that was for the

551
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: not good enough a lot.

552
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 3: I remembering correctly, it was along the lines of last year,

553
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: you said you liked your receiver room. How do you

554
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: like it now?

555
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 4: Okay, you know that's really just.

556
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: Something like that. But uh. Also he talked about Isaac

557
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: sam Malu and he said they've been in contact good.

558
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: But also, uh, there's there's veteran free agency potentially uh

559
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: applying there. There's the draft potentially applying there. And he

560
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: brought up uh bench and Spencer Anderson. Thank you, I

561
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: was blank in a minute. Yeah, so you know, read

562
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: into that what you will a lot. That's what we'll

563
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: do probably for the next month, uh, if not longer,

564
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: because Omar doesn't speak that often public said. Oh. He

565
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: also was asked repeatedly about Mike McCarthy and said, they've

566
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: been grinding and that's been going great. And according to Omar,

567
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy is caught up on being able to evaluate

568
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: these guys the draft picks, right because he obviously wasn't

569
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: in the game. Yeah, yeah, he wasn't, but I'm not

570
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: sure head coach would have been doing much with that anyway.

571
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: Every team is different, every head coach is different. Tomlin

572
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: was pretty involved.

573
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: But I think it was involved from September to December.

574
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no at all. Right, they got things to do.

575
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: I think that.

576
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: But the whole coaching staff really gets involved about.

577
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: Now interesting to hear what Omo had to say on

578
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: a variety of subjects. And again, the fashion change noticeable.

579
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 3: Not a lot of people would pick up on anybody

580
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: else can report. I pass myself on the back for that, because,

581
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 3: you know, by the way, really kind of fun that

582
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: all this is leading up to Pittsburgh.

583
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: You I mean, we take a step back and realize

584
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: that all this excitement that's being generated here in Indianapolis

585
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: culminates in late April in Pittsburgh.

586
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: There was a little anticipation for that beyond the normal dress. Yeah,

587
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: there is some kind of jazz there.

588
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Is, and you know, stepping into this room makes you

589
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: realize that, and I think gets excited about.

590
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: That one more thing before I forget about the quarterbacks

591
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: relative you know, Rogers, no Rogers. We're all searching for

592
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: the next franchise player at the position, was Omar's message.

593
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: You know, the fans want that, they want that. Uh,

594
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you can't just go down to the

595
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: franchise quarterbacks the word and bring one home on the

596
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: you know, pick up a gallon of milk, and maybe

597
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: I saw Pat Mahomes at a franchise quarterback mar Sometimes

598
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: it's complicated and.

599
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: There's competition, you know, so there's not every year. Is

600
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: there a place? So Sam Darnold right resurrections's career in

601
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: Minnesota comes off that season good words, Yes, and I

602
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: think that well, it had been dormant, it was since

603
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: since USC.

604
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: It was nothing short of that. I mean, so.

605
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: My record election was the Steelers were rumored to be

606
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: one of the teams interested in talking to Sam Darnold.

607
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: But he went to Seattle. Good situation obviously, you know,

608
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: they've been a solid football team and he was able

609
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: to put them you know, he went there, met with

610
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: him and signed with him and never actually got to

611
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: But it was my my recollection here and I could

612
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: be misremembering to use a Mike mc mark maguirewood. I

613
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: might be misremembering what happened, but I think that he was,

614
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: you know, he was the Steelers wanted to talk to him. Well,

615
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: if there's a player like that, even a Daniel Jones

616
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: for what he did before there you know, it's free

617
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: for the players too, free agency, right, and that's we

618
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: talk about Isaac Camalo. So just because you were in

619
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: the market for one doesn't mean they're going to come

620
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: to you because other teams want them to.

621
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are your options and see what you

622
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: come up with. That's same thing every year, right. Omark

623
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: did also talk about they got a bunch of guys

624
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: that are in line for potential extensions, and he said

625
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: they think they have a good young nucleus, and you know,

626
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: they want to keep their good young players. But that's

627
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: kind of Joey Porter. Yeah, yeah, right. I didn't expect

628
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: them to come out and say we are going to

629
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: sign Joey Porter. But yes, but Nick kurbigs out of here,

630
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: like I didn't. I wasn't expect they aveny kind of clarity,

631
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: but just a little you know, philosophical lean. Maybe they

632
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: like their team. Their team won ten games. I agree,

633
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: their team won a division championship. I talked to some

634
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: people back home, like what team were you watching? Like,

635
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: I totally agree, maybe that wave they want a division

636
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: We talked about that in camp last year. How why

637
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: is nobody picking this team to win ten games again

638
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: or make the playoffs again. And by the way, you know,

639
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: the year before they had the worst, one of the

640
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: worst schedules in the NFL, and then last year breaks

641
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: they have another terrible schedule, they still won ten games.

642
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just think that if you take a

643
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: step back and look at it, and I know a

644
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: lot of fans, you know, don't want to do that,

645
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: they want to see results, But when you see what

646
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: the students have done, you know, I've brought up this analogy.

647
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: A few years ago, Mason Rudolph comes in, leads a

648
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: team to the playoffs, They go up to Buffalo, they

649
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: had virtually no chance of winning that game. Then the

650
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: next year they're more competitive against the top team.

651
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a seven point game in the fourth course. Yeah,

652
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: that's right. And well, a lot of stuff went right

653
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Speaker 3: for the Steelers in that game. For sure. You know,

654
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: they got to lay out a lot.

655
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: Of breaks in that game, But I don't think you know,

656
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: so you needed a ton of breaks to have an

657
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: opportunity to win a game like that. I think as

658
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: every year has gone by, they've gotten closer and closer.

659
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: One of the things I would point to this year

660
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: is that I think for of their losses to top teams,

661
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: including Seattle Green Bay. There were two other games as well,

662
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: all to top quality teams. They led it to half.

663
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Speaker 2: Not only did they lead it to half, but they

664
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Speaker 2: got the ball to begin the second half. Right, you

665
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: should win more games than you lose under that scenario.

666
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Speaker 2: So I'm with you, Mike, and I'm with what Omar

667
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: Komms saying. I think it's a better roster than people think,

668
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: and I think it's improving because underneath the discussions, oh,

669
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: it's an aging roster. You have, you know, Teach j

670
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: Watt and and uh and Cam Hayward and Aaron Rodgers. Well,

671
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: underneath that you have a young offensive line and a

672
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: defensive line that's getting younger, and and so you've.

673
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Speaker 4: They definitely have some old players. But then there's not

674
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: like it's not like, no, there's a there's a handful

675
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: of old players.

676
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: What's that average as look like? If you take out

677
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: Hayward and Rogers that it's a completely different conver to

678
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Speaker 3: your previous point. Kinger. Even the Houston game, which admittedly

679
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: not what the way nobody wanted it to write. The

680
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: playoff game, it was ten to six in the fourth quarters, right,

681
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: and they had the ball at their own forty three. Yep,

682
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: don't get strip secks Scoop scored there, and maybe that's

683
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: a different game, that's right. So I don't know. People

684
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: can interpret things how they want to.

685
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Interpret them, and listen, we may be interpreting them wrong too,

686
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: and that's why that's the beauty of all.

687
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Speaker 3: It could be running you know what. I might be too.

688
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just wanted to give you my

689
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: thoughts on no more thoughts, thank you.

690
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: And I know you've got writing to do, and you'll

691
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Speaker 2: be joining us, uh for radio throughout the yeah, right.

692
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Speaker 3: And this will get up on Steelers dot Com and

693
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: I know you guys are gonna play it and.

694
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: It's entire say of here.

695
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: Everybody can listen to it and get their own feel

696
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: for it. But uh, that's what we do here, right.

697
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I believe that is coming up next at

698
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Speaker 2: Justin Miller. Justin Miller's that coming up next. You can

699
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Speaker 2: speak to me through my headphones, uh the omar Okay,

700
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: so still working on that sometime throughout the course of

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Speaker 2: the show.

702
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Speaker 3: You guys can see how I did with the two

703
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: versus how you interpret.

704
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, but you won't be here to hear

705
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: it because you're off writing your article for Steelers dot Com.

706
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Speaker 3: Yes, Mike, thank you, My friend. Fellas will be talking

707
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Speaker 3: all week, I'm sure.

708
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: Yes, we will a lot of meat on that bone

709
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 2: to get to, which we're gonna get to when we

710
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Speaker 2: continue our combine coverage from Indianapolis here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is live coverage of that twenty twenty six NFL

712
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Speaker 1: combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers

713
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Speaker 1: Audio Network.

714
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Speaker 2: And we thank you very much for being with us

715
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Speaker 2: as we continue our draft coverage here pre draft coverage

716
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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. And you know, one of the things that's

717
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: you know, it's a little this is a little like

718
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: putting the cart before the horse, because you have free

719
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: agency coming up, you have contracts, and you have roster

720
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: moves to make, and all of a sudden, I mean, it's.

721
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Speaker 4: I love all these people to do these mock drafts.

722
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, you realize there's to be like a month

723
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: worth a free agency. It happens with in between here, right.

724
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: You know, And it is you know, I think one

725
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: of the things, going back to Kevin Colbert, that the

726
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: students have always done really well and I think it

727
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: bears repeating because I think that you know some of

728
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: this stuff will happen prior to the draft. Is making

729
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: at least putting together at least a plausible roster that

730
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: you could go into the season and think, okay, we

731
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: can be fine. So for example, last year, you know,

732
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: you knew that the students were going to address defensive line, right,

733
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: and you know they're probably going to grab several players

734
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: right where those players are going to be taken hard to.

735
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: Tell, but you knew they were going to draft a

736
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: running back too, sure, you know, But we.

737
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: Go into the draft, we go into this process, and

738
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: then they signed Daniel Laquale in free agency. Now because

739
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: see the guy you were looking for? No, but is

740
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: he a starter? That's going to be one of those

741
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: guys you plug in there? Sure? Making you less desperate.

742
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: You know, if going back to my previous question to you,

743
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: who would the students have taken if Derek Harmon was

744
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: off the board at least then you don't feel like

745
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: you have to reach. And I think that they do

746
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: a great job. So for example this year, to me,

747
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: one of those positions like that is offensive line and

748
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: more specifically left guard could Spencer Anderson start for you.

749
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could start.

750
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Speaker 2: For We've seen it, right, we've played, We've seen it,

751
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: and I don't think you would go into a season

752
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: thinking boy, or we we get left guard.

753
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: Now.

754
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: You would need to find a depth piece. If he's

755
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: going to be your starter, you need to either draft,

756
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, you maybe use one of those third round

757
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: picks on a guard, or go out and get a veteran,

758
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: solid veteran back. Maybe somebody can compete for that spot,

759
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: but not a Aha, We've got this position figured out,

760
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: and I suspect that they will. They will do a

761
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: lot of that between now in the draft. And if

762
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: they do that, Matt, it's going to put him in

763
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: in a really interesting position. I still think it's going

764
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: to be receiver with the first pick, but it's going

765
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Speaker 2: to It would put them in a much more interesting

766
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Speaker 2: position to be able to grab a guy that they

767
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: maybe identify as a future star at a different position.

768
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and no doubt. And you mentioned Kevin Colbert,

769
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Speaker 4: and I always complimented him because I always felt like

770
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Speaker 4: when the draft opening bell happened, the Steelers almost always

771
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: had a roster under Colbert that they could line up

772
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: and play that day without adding one rookie to the

773
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: team at that point right now, it helped having a

774
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: good foundation to start with. They weren't a four and

775
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: twelve team back then either, and they had been and

776
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: they were good, and you know, you could continue to

777
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: build on that. But that's also easier said than done

778
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: when you pick the ball in the draft every year.

779
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 4: So they didn't. They weren't a to add blue chip

780
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: rookies a lot. But still I think that this organization

781
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 4: is really good at that. And I think it's also

782
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: easy to say, like, and I've done a mock draft already.

783
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: If I'm gonna do a mock, I would almost always

784
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: put a receiver at twenty one because I frankly I

785
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: think they need to add three of them at this point.

786
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: I think I was gonna say, well, we'll get to

787
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: it this week. Yeah, I think wide receiver is this

788
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: year's defensive line. Yeah, I think they're gonna add They're

789
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: gonna play reliever two and probably three.

790
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm assuming they'll add somebody before the draft exactly. I

791
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 4: mean there's a name Romeo Dobbs, you know, somebody like that,

792
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: or even trade for jam something like that. There's a

793
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: lot of names out there, veterans, and then I think

794
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: you're still go in the draft and be like, probably

795
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: in the top two rounds, we should draft another because

796
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: they're gonna play. The three were on the field or

797
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: high high percentage of the time. And then I'm probably

798
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: throwing a flyer in like the fifth round and a

799
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: guy that can a returner. I mean, it's a really

800
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: underrated need. But they don't have a returner. And in

801
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: today's new kickoff rules, you gotta take advantage of that.

802
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: You can't be starting. You know, their kickoff team wasn't

803
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: as good. The special teams are good. Danny Smith was

804
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: a great coordinator, but their kickoff team wasn't great this

805
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 4: past year. Right, And it's such a huge advantage we

806
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 4: start in drives at the thirty five forty yard line.

807
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, and and again to underscore that. Last year,

808
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about this in camp. You know,

809
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: I looked at the difference between in net punting, you know,

810
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: punt return average and what you were getting and what

811
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: you were not getting in the punt game. And you know,

812
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: we're talking about this in terms of signing Cam Johnson. Actually,

813
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: I think this might have been two years ago. And

814
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, if you take that twenty five yards a game,

815
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: well those are real yards now all of a sudden half,

816
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: first out and if you and if you put it

817
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: on your offense, now suddenly your offense goes from you know,

818
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: twenty fourth in the league to seventeenth in the league.

819
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: It's like that close, you know. So it can have

820
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: that stuff matters, right, it can have a it could

821
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: it all that stuff matters. Absolutely, That's a a way

822
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: to put it, for sure.

823
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Speaker 3: You know.

824
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting too when when teams talk about

825
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: or when when pundits talk about the Steelers quarterback position,

826
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Speaker 2: and you know, Mike McCarthy went out of his way

827
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: at his press conference to praise Will Howard and Mike

828
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: Brezuda just said that. Praise continued today from Omar Khan

829
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: and what they think they have and Will Howard.

830
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Speaker 3: You know, when I when I look at.

831
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Speaker 2: The Steelers and that position, and it's obvious and again

832
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: you're gonna hear from omark on in a little bit,

833
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: but just the need to have that, like you can't

834
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: win without it. But it's hard for me to imagine

835
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: the Steelers not going into next season with a veteran

836
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: starting a veteran backup quarterback, So that's Mason Rudolph. Right

837
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: then it'd be look, they've they've sung the praises of

838
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: Will Howard, so he's going to be on the roster,

839
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: I think as a developmental guy. Right now, Let's say

840
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: you signed Aaron Rodgers, does that if you pick up

841
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: another quarterback somewhere, are you really going to carry four

842
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: quarterbacks on your roster?

843
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Speaker 4: I mean, but the way I see it shaking out

844
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: is it seems likely and I'm not trying breaking any

845
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Speaker 4: news here that probably, well, you know, Rudolph and Howard

846
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: are gonna be a camp right I think that that's

847
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: four gune conlusion, those two hunderd contract. They're going to

848
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: be in latrope. Let's say Rogers is as well, but

849
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Speaker 4: in the fourth round. If you'd like the player in

850
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: this draft, having Rudolph would not preclude me from taking

851
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: that player. And I like Rudolph, But I also think

852
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: once we get to camp, Howard might get to the

853
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 4: point where you trust him as a number two, you know,

854
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 4: because I think he's gonna get a ton of reps

855
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 4: and he was robbed of a lot of those last year.

856
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: Rogers is going to play in the preseason. You know

857
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: what I mean that you could go into camp with

858
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Speaker 4: Rudolph Rogers, Howard third round pick that has a lot

859
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 4: of upside, Drew Aller, whoever, and at that point two

860
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: or three quarterbacks around the league are going to get hurt.

861
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: You could trade Rudolph for a six round pick, and

862
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't think that's crazy because I think by then

863
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: you're probably confident that Howard can at least be my

864
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: number two. Interesting, you know why you develop two young guys, right,

865
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Speaker 4: So that could be one way it shakes out. I

866
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 4: like Rudolph, but it's not like he's this massive hurdle

867
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Speaker 4: that I can't add somebody I kind of love, right,

868
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 4: you know.

869
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: You know I also do think that, and we'll talk

870
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: more about this as the week unfolds, because I do

871
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: think that receiver is the Like I said, I think

872
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: it's this year's defensive line.

873
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: In the meantime, they're gonna draft one or two, right,

874
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: and one's gonna be high.

875
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 3: I know that.

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00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: In the meantime, I'm not sure that. And let's say

877
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: you re sign, you keep Jalen Ramsey and you say

878
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: he's our safety. Okay, now you re sign Pierre Nissante

879
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: Samuel right, uh, you keep Patrick Queen. Even though some

880
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: people say, well you so, now, where's your real need

881
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: on defense?

882
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 4: I'd like that one more defensive tackle.

883
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Too, you'd like to have one tackle, But I think

884
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: that for me, it would open up the possibility of

885
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: either trading up to get somebody who you think could

886
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: be a fewture your star, trading down, or just simply

887
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: taking somebody who you think is a future star you

888
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: think is undervalued at that pick. It's something that Steelers

889
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: have done well in the past. Yes, do they need

890
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: a receiver, sure, But going back to the Derek Harmon

891
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: discussion last year, if Harmon was your cut off point

892
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 2: of top tier guys to Steelers traditionally have not reached

893
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: for somebody.

894
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: You don't go each here.

895
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's happened in the past, but not

896
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: very frequently. You don't go for a tier two guys.

897
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: So who do you go for there? What is this

898
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: quote unquote luxury pick? Well, ideally, going into a draft,

899
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: every pick would be a luxury pick because then you'd

900
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: truly be taking the best player available. We're gonna take

901
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: the best player available. Well, you're really going to take

902
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: the best player available at probably three to four positions.

903
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: But as this roster gets better and better, it seems

904
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: to me, especially if you make some key Let's say

905
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: you re Signmalo, you don't cut anybody that is unexpected,

906
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: and you re sign Pierre Na Sante Samuel, what's your

907
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: true need on this roster? And then and then let's

908
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 2: say go out in free agency and get Romeo Dobs. Yeah,

909
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: what's your true need in the first I think that's

910
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: entirely plausible. All that is entirely plausible. What is your

911
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: biggest need? Then in the first round, I think you've

912
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 2: opened yourself up to maybe trade up. Hey, we really

913
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: like Jordan Tyson, for example, we think he's gonna be

914
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: gone in the first fifteen picks. Let's trade some of

915
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: these third round picks up and get him. Or let's

916
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: move back because there's nobody really here in our spot.

917
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: Or let's grab you know, a safety that that fell

918
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: to us, the kid from Toledo, he's fallen to us.

919
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: We love them, we love them. We're gonna snatch him up,

920
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I think that's that could be.

921
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: You could set yourself up for that it could be

922
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: more of a possibility this year than I think it

923
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: was a year ago where they just absolutely needed some

924
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: D lineman.

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00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: But again, it puts you in a position to not

926
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Speaker 3: have to reach.

927
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Speaker 4: Also, yes, and I think that's probably the free agent goal.

928
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Speaker 4: Let's set ourselves up with guys we know we like,

929
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Speaker 4: maybe one or two of them is from outside the

930
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: organization so we don't have to reach, or so we

931
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Speaker 4: could package a third rounder for next year second rounder

932
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: and not hurt us, or package a couple thirds to

933
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Speaker 4: move up in the first round because we can't believe

934
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Speaker 4: this guy's still available, whether it's a receiver or not.

935
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Speaker 4: One thing I do want to mention, I'm gonna mention

936
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Speaker 4: it all week too, is people I trust think there's

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Speaker 4: gonna be between twelve and fourteen wide receivers in the

938
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Speaker 4: top two rounds.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Now, the top tier guys would be great, But if

941
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Speaker 4: you have a Dobbs or you're traded for somebody, round

942
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Speaker 4: two might not be the worst thing either. With Metcalf,

943
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: Dobbs and a second round pick, that's you know, a

944
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Speaker 4: highly respected deep receiver draft. And then I keep coming

945
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Speaker 4: back to it, though I get so greedy with defensive tackles.

946
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: Well, I feel the same way like that. So if if.

947
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: Because who I mean, if Cam's on here next year,

948
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you're back in that way.

949
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Speaker 3: And if Peter Woods is there.

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Speaker 2: But then again, there's also some other guys in the

951
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: second round that seemed to be Yeah, that seemed to

952
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: be very you know, that could really, you know, come

953
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: in and do a solid job for you.

954
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Speaker 4: So it's fascinating radio safety, the Oregon safety, right, and

955
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: that could be it looks like a cherry on top,

956
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: but I like cherries on top, agreed.

957
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna be diving into a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hear from Omar Khan coming up in a

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Speaker 2: little bit. He's also going to be joining us live

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on. We're going to have his

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Speaker 2: press conference coming up in a little bit alongside Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rob King, and you are listening to our Steers

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Speaker 2: coverage from the Combine in Indianapolis here on Steelers Nation Radio.