WEBVTT - Cool Science You May Have Missed in 2012

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and my name is Julie Douglas.

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<v Speaker 1>And we just recorded an episode about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>big stories in science during the last year, during twelve uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're doing a second episode where we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run through some bits of really fascinating science that

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<v Speaker 1>you might have missed. Uh, A lot of its stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we could have conceivably maybe have done an episode about.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it's like something that's really interesting but just

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<v Speaker 1>not quite enough to do a whole episode on. So

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<v Speaker 1>consider this kind of a sampler platter of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the stranger chocolates from now I get to say, a

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<v Speaker 1>poo poo platter, Yes, poop ladder of odd science from Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna kick off with with my favorite from this

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<v Speaker 1>this bunch and this is a worse the Immortal jellyfish

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote Benjamin Button of the Animal Kingdom. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of headlines had some fun with this, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean have to fund with Most of these are the headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times ran a story titled can a jellyfish Unlocked?

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<v Speaker 1>The Secrets of immortality. So you have a number of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just pit there. Yeah, they dropped in immortality

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<v Speaker 1>in the headline, which that's gonna that generates some interest

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<v Speaker 1>because we all want to live live, not forever, at

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<v Speaker 1>least maybe a little more than we have a lotted

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<v Speaker 1>to us. So, uh, it's it's instantly fascinating. So the

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<v Speaker 1>jellyfish in question is the Tatopsis dorney, which to all

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<v Speaker 1>appearances looks like jellyfish. There's there's nothing particularly amazing about

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<v Speaker 1>but what what happens here is that, um nothing amazing

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<v Speaker 1>about it in just appearance, but in function it does

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<v Speaker 1>some amazing things. What appears to happen is that it

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote reverses an in age unil it reaches an

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<v Speaker 1>early stage, earlier stage of its development. Now to really

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<v Speaker 1>understand what's going on here, you have to picture the

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<v Speaker 1>life cycle of the jellyfish and h So what happens,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So you having an adult jellyfish, a medusa,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, when it reproduces, it drops off this planny

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<v Speaker 1>little larva. Alright, this larva floats down to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of of the sea there and there it grows into

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<v Speaker 1>a polyp and then the budding polyp emits this ifira,

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<v Speaker 1>this little sort of mini pseudo jellyfish that then floats

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<v Speaker 1>up and becomes the adult jellyfish of it. Right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the basic life cycle. Now, what happens normally

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<v Speaker 1>is that you have an adult jellyfish that reproduces a

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<v Speaker 1>few times, starts getting a little old, it starts to starve,

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<v Speaker 1>or the water gets a little too hot, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it dies. It shuffles off this mortal coil. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is basically like any life form right reaches the

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<v Speaker 1>adult stage. The adult stage is about reproducing. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth noting that, as with many other organisms, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>adult stage is not the only stage that can reproduce. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also some a sexual reproduction that takes place at

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<v Speaker 1>the poly up stage. But but generally, in most organisms

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<v Speaker 1>reach it reaches the adult stage, it reproduces, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it either dies immediately or maybe it carries on a

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<v Speaker 1>little longer, but generally its function is done. You've reached

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<v Speaker 1>the adulthood stage. You've reproduced. That's it. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>get off the stage and make room for the other players.

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<v Speaker 1>But not so with this particular jellyfish. Now it does

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<v Speaker 1>not quite Benjamin Button, Like, that would be a wrong analogy.

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<v Speaker 1>What would be a better analogy is that is not

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<v Speaker 1>that like an old man grows young again. But imagine

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<v Speaker 1>an old man walking down the street and just collapses

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<v Speaker 1>under the weight of his like old awfulness, and then

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<v Speaker 1>just melts into a pile of goo on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 1>and then out of that goo crawls a naked, slime

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<v Speaker 1>covered infant, which then grows up into an adult. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I like that. Pat Krug marine biologists says

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<v Speaker 1>that when they do reach the end of this cycle, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they get really stressed out and they collapse to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom and melt, But instead of dying, they really reorganize

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<v Speaker 1>its tissues and forms a new little polyp, so, as

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<v Speaker 1>you say, sort of climbing from the primordial goo and

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<v Speaker 1>reforming itself. Um. And it's interesting because Craig says that

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<v Speaker 1>it it's it's almost like it skips it's having the

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<v Speaker 1>sex part of it and goes straight to the next

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the life cycle and becomes this new polyp.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this is so cool because it reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of the imaginal cells that we talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>the Gremlin's podcast. We were talking about a butterfly sort

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<v Speaker 1>of deconstructing a rather caterpillar deconstructing itself in the cocoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and that those imaginal cells are much like undifferentiated stem cells,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they can do any sort of job that

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<v Speaker 1>they need to while reconstructing this new form, new life form,

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<v Speaker 1>this butterfly um and then those cells becoming specialized when

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<v Speaker 1>it when it actually does become the butterfly itself. This

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<v Speaker 1>is very much the same thing with this immortal jellyfish. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in the gremlin model now that we

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<v Speaker 1>brought gremlins and magua into it. Uh, the magua the

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<v Speaker 1>furry little dude, the gremlin, the repulsive creature that the

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<v Speaker 1>magua turns into. The gremlin is the adult form. The

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<v Speaker 1>magua is the juvenile form, maybe even a larval form.

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<v Speaker 1>However you want to look at it um and so

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, the magua eats after midnight, turns into

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<v Speaker 1>an adult gremlin. But then imagine if the adult gremlin

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<v Speaker 1>melted and then out of the gremlin melt emerged a magua.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it would be a a reversal, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's fascinating to think about about it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but but still taking nothing away from this organism. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it's not quite Benjamin Button, and it's which

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<v Speaker 1>is I think a good thing. Uh, it's also not

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<v Speaker 1>quite immortal. We're getting a little carried away with that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a question mark to to what degree the tissues

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<v Speaker 1>can continue to regenerate themselves, right, Yeah, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's really awesome, it's really fascinating and certainly, um, something

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<v Speaker 1>very unique is going up. Well that's also another thing

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<v Speaker 1>because there's also the possibly there are other jellyfish species

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<v Speaker 1>that do this as well. So it's maybe not as

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<v Speaker 1>unique as some of the stories made it out to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's still pretty amazing. Uh. And ultimately how long

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<v Speaker 1>can this keep going? Uh? Probably not forever. This is

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<v Speaker 1>probably not a situation where it's like the Highlander of

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<v Speaker 1>jellyfish just carrying on and carrying on. Yeah, And let

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<v Speaker 1>me just do a quick quote from Pat Kraig again,

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<v Speaker 1>the marine biologist. Why it is significant? He or she

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<v Speaker 1>says that learning how to take adult cells and get

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<v Speaker 1>them back to the early stage where they can develop

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<v Speaker 1>into anything is a significant goal of what we want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to achieve. Um, and I think in

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<v Speaker 1>this case she's talking about in humans, it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>this humble little jelly has a built in feature of

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<v Speaker 1>its life cycle. Things get gross around it, it melts

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<v Speaker 1>and rebuilds itself from scratch. So I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely the potential that we could learn some basic things

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<v Speaker 1>that we could better apply to our own technology for

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<v Speaker 1>human medicine. Now, you know, it would be a dream

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<v Speaker 1>is to talk to Aubrey Degree about this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and say, like, what you know, to what extent are

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<v Speaker 1>things like this? These sort of discoveries um helpful in

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<v Speaker 1>in his own bio gerontology work where he is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get to disease before it happens in the human

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<v Speaker 1>body and basically try to keep the body is finally

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<v Speaker 1>tuned as possible so that with drug intervention and good health,

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<v Speaker 1>we could possibly live, you know, upwards to five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Yeah. I guess one of the things about

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<v Speaker 1>humans is we don't really we never go through a

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<v Speaker 1>cocoon phase. We never go through a drastic of change.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, there's there's a lot of drastic

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<v Speaker 1>changes that go that occur between you know, being an

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<v Speaker 1>infinite being an adult, but but like what would be

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<v Speaker 1>the cut off line, you know, if you could? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and to what degree could you re org your your

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<v Speaker 1>cells and your tissues. So I think that's the interesting part,

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<v Speaker 1>Like could we take that information and apply to yourselves practically? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what makes me think of the fly because

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of primordial do in that. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things that the Jeff gold Blooms,

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<v Speaker 1>the character gets on about when he's you know, quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote gold blooming about the excitement of the science, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about, you know, being broken down in the

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<v Speaker 1>teleportation and then reassembled, reborn, re emerging from the plasma pool.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's pretty much what's happening with this jellyfish, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, if you can combine that

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<v Speaker 1>with um quantum entanglement, which which we'll talk about, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that could happen. But before we get to that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about junk DNA or as we have discovered this year,

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<v Speaker 1>not so junk DNA. Yeah. So this is pretty cool,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is just another example of you knows, as

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<v Speaker 1>we any scientific endeavor, you'd you push a little a

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<v Speaker 1>little farther. You you answer one question and three new

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<v Speaker 1>ones arive. Um just this when you know you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>traveling across the countryside. Uh, what seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple array of hills and trees in the distance.

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<v Speaker 1>The closer you get you see the details, you see

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<v Speaker 1>the the how how complex the system actually is. And

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<v Speaker 1>so for the longest we've we've thought that there is

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<v Speaker 1>this thing called this junk DNA, which you know, sounds

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a silly idea because why is it there? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there's the the the you know, the quote you

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<v Speaker 1>may have seen on a T shirt. God don't make

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<v Speaker 1>no junk, right, So why would God? Because the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the God in his his or her infinite wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>would not make something that was that was wasted, like

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<v Speaker 1>everything has a purpose, something, everything kind of fits in somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>And take the God out of that equation and fit

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<v Speaker 1>it into a more scientific setting, then it still rings

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<v Speaker 1>with a certain amount of true like it's there, like

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<v Speaker 1>why would why would there be junk DNA? Like would

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<v Speaker 1>it just be like leftover garbage DNA? And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the take home here is that the more that

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've we've looked at with the vename, we realized

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<v Speaker 1>that it is not junk DNA, but it is a

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<v Speaker 1>genetic material that informs UM, these various epigenetic changes in

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<v Speaker 1>the genes that determine what genes are turned on or off.

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<v Speaker 1>And these switches, UM, the simplified way of looking at

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<v Speaker 1>these switches have an impact on various UM manifestations of

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<v Speaker 1>the human body, from various traits to UH diseases. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and UM, this is a byproduct of mapping the human genome.

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<v Speaker 1>This discovery that junk DNA is not necessarily junking in

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<v Speaker 1>fact of it, they say, is vital and as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>it has UM has a pretty big implication in gene

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<v Speaker 1>switches that reside in bits of DNA. So UM, the

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<v Speaker 1>discovery is considered a major medical and scientific breakthrough and

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<v Speaker 1>it really does have an effect on our ability to

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<v Speaker 1>gain human health here. Um, and again we're talking about UM,

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<v Speaker 1>this material that was largely mysterious for this in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways it is, but there's an ability now to to

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<v Speaker 1>better uh look at it and try to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. In fact, the term junk DNA is

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<v Speaker 1>not being tossed around so much anymore. It has now

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<v Speaker 1>been upgraded to dark matter. Yes, something that and just

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<v Speaker 1>a briefly about dark matter in a cosmic sense, a mystery,

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that that we're we're not sure exactly on

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of, but we know it. It must be

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<v Speaker 1>important because there's a lot of it out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, there are complex diseases that appear

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<v Speaker 1>and they appear to be caused by tiny changes in

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of genes switches which are controlled by this junk

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<v Speaker 1>or dark matter DNA. UM it really is a game

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<v Speaker 1>changer because it can help us to understand how alterations

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<v Speaker 1>in the non gene parts of DNA contribute to human disease,

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<v Speaker 1>which could lead to new drug therapy. UM. It could

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<v Speaker 1>also explain how the environment can affect disease risk. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of identical twins, small changes in the

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<v Speaker 1>environmental exposure can slightly altered genes, which is with the

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<v Speaker 1>result that one twin gets disease and the other does not.

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<v Speaker 1>UM and I think this is really going to be

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<v Speaker 1>most important, at least in the short term in cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>UM that this is from the New York Times article

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<v Speaker 1>Bits of Mystery DNA far from junk play crucial role.

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<v Speaker 1>It says that as they begin to turning the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>sequences of cancer cells. Researchers realize that most of the

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of DNA changes in cancer cells were not in genes.

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<v Speaker 1>They were in the dark matter. The challenge is to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out which of those changes are driving the cancer's growth.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So there you go, junk DNA not so

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<v Speaker 1>junk after all. So we're gonna take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and when we come back, we're gonna roll through some

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<v Speaker 1>other potentially overlooked awesome science from the from including solar tornadoes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back, and we are talking sellar tornadoes, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited about because this year they were confirmed. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been spotted or hints of them have been spotted in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, but they were confirmed this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's thought that up to eleven thousand of them

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<v Speaker 1>twist over the Sun's surface every day, and they're made

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<v Speaker 1>of hot plasma and they are capable of reaching heights

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen hundred miles high, with diameters ranging from nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty to thirty five hundred miles wide. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that the stats aren't done there, because think about

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<v Speaker 1>this mammoth um. It can spin upwards to about nine

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<v Speaker 1>thousand miles an hour, lasting only for about thirteen minutes each. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a lot of the news stories about this

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<v Speaker 1>really like the focus on these things are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>as big as the United States. Yeah, they're They're enormous

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<v Speaker 1>solar tornadoes. Um, And it's important that I get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of space related headlines. Don't at me because I

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes right for Discovery Space. So anytime Discovery Space does

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<v Speaker 1>a story, I end up seeing the headline. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to become kind of dull to these after a

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<v Speaker 1>while because you have something happened in space, some new discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the nature of science journalism. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to spice it up a bit um. You know, black holes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, but no, it's not enough today. It's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be monster black holes. There have to be cannibal black holes.

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<v Speaker 1>They've gotta so everything is sexed up to them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so solar tornadoes on the Sun. It sounds awesome, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually kind of easy to miss this one

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're having to process a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>space headlines because they kind of overstate everything. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>the core science is always really amazing when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. In this case, in point, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>solar tornadoes. Now you probably wonder, well, what is why

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<v Speaker 1>is it important? Like why does it what does it

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<v Speaker 1>matter that there are solar tornadoes aside from the cool factor, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it really does give us a better understanding what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on on the Sun. Like one thing that it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to realize about the Sun is that the the surface

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sun is the coolest part of the Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems to counterintuitive, right, right, especially since the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 1>the weather of the Sun is hotter than the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's hot and then it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little cooler and it gets progressively hotter again. Um and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And this gives us little more reason to understand it

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<v Speaker 1>because in the atmosphere of the Sun, the weather of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun, you have all this intense activity. Yeah and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to point out that then wide amount Boom,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an astrophysicist at the University of Also had said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we thought something was up. Basically, he said

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<v Speaker 1>that we observed some unusually hot plasma above the Sun's surface,

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<v Speaker 1>so we knew something was happening there, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what. And it turns out that this activity, these

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<v Speaker 1>solar tornadoes may contribute to that variation in heat. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason why there is so much heat in this upper

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere because if you think about a tornado, it's um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's well, there's there's a spiraling effect bringing

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<v Speaker 1>heat up right, But a sort of solar tornado is

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<v Speaker 1>unlike tornadoes on Earth, which of course are powered by

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<v Speaker 1>differences in temperature and humidity. UM. The twisters in the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun are a combination of hot flowing gas entangled magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>field lines, ultimately driven by nuclear reactions at the solar core.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the surface for the photosphere, cooled plasma sinks

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<v Speaker 1>towards the interior like water running down the bathtub drain,

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<v Speaker 1>and this creates vortex is that magnetic field lines are

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<v Speaker 1>forced to follow, and then the line stretch upward into

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<v Speaker 1>the chromosphere where they continue to spiral up. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just one big death metal album up there. Big. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's why you It's why the corona, this upper atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sun's atmosphere is filled with all of this

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<v Speaker 1>heat because you have these massive tornadoes of plasma just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing themselves around. UM. And then as for the eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand per day statistic um. It has been said that

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<v Speaker 1>there may not be as many in the future because

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen a glut of these huge sillar tornadoes because

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun has been ramping up toward max and activity

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<v Speaker 1>levels in its current cycle. So you know, still it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount of activity, and one that people weren't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily aware of. They suspected, of course that something was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. But you know, I think it recasts the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of the Wizard of oz. I think someone

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<v Speaker 1>needs to to write with sort of the oz uh

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<v Speaker 1>based on the Sun. Really, so so Dorothy would go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sun instead. Yes, there's there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of logistics to be worked out there. But imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>twister that comes through that cancel. Yes, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the solar twister. I like it. I like it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, well, now let's turn our attention

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<v Speaker 1>to the quantum world. Now, of course, quantum things happened

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<v Speaker 1>in because quantum, quantum happens. Quantum happens. It looks great

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<v Speaker 1>in the headline um and so there there continues to

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<v Speaker 1>be some interesting headway in the field of quantum teleportation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know what you're you're you're you're wondering. You're

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<v Speaker 1>either wondering, well, what is quantum teleportation or you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>oh God, I hope they don't try and explain it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're we're not going to go to in depth

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<v Speaker 1>on quantum teleportation. That's really a subject for another time,

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<v Speaker 1>but but we can sort of speed you through the

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<v Speaker 1>simple version of it um because what what we have here,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're dealing with, essentially, is quantum entanglement, in which

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<v Speaker 1>two sub atomic particles thousands of light years of party

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<v Speaker 1>and then can instantly respond um to each other's motions. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've this started off is something that was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>merely theoretical that we figured was possible, and then scientists

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<v Speaker 1>observed the phenomenon at at at the particle level and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and in two thousand and nine they managed to

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<v Speaker 1>produce the effect with linked superconductors and uh. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>an exciting topic because you know, it helps us certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>it involves a greater understanding of what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the quantum realm, but also it has enormous possible applications,

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<v Speaker 1>uh for faster than light signaling, for as sending data,

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<v Speaker 1>for encrypting data, um but particularly and in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the area of quantum computing. It's it's pretty big medicine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past year, a team from China and another

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<v Speaker 1>in Austria set new records for quantum teleportation using a

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<v Speaker 1>laser to beam photons through the open air over sixty

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty nine excuse me, sixty and eighty nine miles

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<v Speaker 1>respectively for context, just you know, just to let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The first efforts to do this resulted in sending the

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<v Speaker 1>particles mirror inches. So the fact that they're already up

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<v Speaker 1>to eighty nine miles is pretty amazing. So the idea

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<v Speaker 1>is that quantum teleportation could be used to transmit particles

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<v Speaker 1>and information from an orbiting satellite eventually to relay station

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth. So this information in the process by which

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<v Speaker 1>it is transmitted is what is called quantum encryption. So,

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<v Speaker 1>according to wire dot COM's article the Race to bring

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<v Speaker 1>Quantum Teleportation to your world, quote, if developed, quantum teleportation,

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<v Speaker 1>satellites could allow spies to pass large amounts of information

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth or create unhackable codes. Should we ever

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<v Speaker 1>build quantum computers, they would need quantum teleporters in order

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<v Speaker 1>to be networked together in a quantum version of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>This is very cool stuff, you know, just from a

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi perspective, you can imagine the implications of a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum infrastructure in our world. Yes, to say nothing of

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<v Speaker 1>all those scenarios in which got vaculate might wear address.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's sort of the Pine the Sky idea. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you think that's too pine the sky though, just

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<v Speaker 1>consider this. China plans to launch a satellite with a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum teleportation experiment payload in two, with a quantum communications

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<v Speaker 1>project being estimated to cost fifty to one million dollars. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so China obviously thinks that this is an important technology. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Europe UM, UH, Japan and Canada are all their space

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<v Speaker 1>agencies are hoping to fund their own quantum teleportation satellite

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<v Speaker 1>projects in the coming years. So the US is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit behind in this, and some of this has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with bureaucratic shuffling between DARPA and IOPA. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because it's definitely a race to get as

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<v Speaker 1>advanced in this technology as possible. Yeah, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>back to the episode we did on an interseller Internet

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<v Speaker 1>the idea and the interplanetary Internet. Uh, because as we

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<v Speaker 1>as we continue to expand out into the cosmos. If

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, as we we show up on other worlds,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to deal with communication, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to face the reality that we're dealing with such distances

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<v Speaker 1>that that instantaneous communication just isn't possible. So you end

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<v Speaker 1>up with it with ever growing lag times, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a return to an age of instead of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, instantly connecting with a loved one or or

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<v Speaker 1>or just employers or mission team members, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to send off missives into the void and then wait

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<v Speaker 1>for one to return and you know, hope that nothing

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<v Speaker 1>went long. One of the big exciting things, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>possible possibility of instantaneous communication between planets by use of

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<v Speaker 1>this quantum teleportation. And it's because we're talking about data

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<v Speaker 1>being reproduced in one place through quantum entanglement. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting and I particularly that the spy part

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<v Speaker 1>of course, just kind of makes me sit up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit taller and take notice. And there was an interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>uh analogy of this of how this might happen with

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<v Speaker 1>quantum teleportation to send this controllable signal, say to a

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<v Speaker 1>satellite and I'm going to take a stab at it,

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<v Speaker 1>a game for it. Yeah, let's do it. Okay. This

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<v Speaker 1>requires three subatomic particles, say photons. In this case, two

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<v Speaker 1>of the photons are entangled with one another, and the

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<v Speaker 1>third contains the bit of information you want to send. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So just know that the sub atomic particles, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>they're a vertical orientation, okay. And once you test that

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<v Speaker 1>and you figure out that these the two that are

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<v Speaker 1>entangled are vertical. You know, the other ones in vertical

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where it is in conjunction to the other one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So these are like paired Dakota rings. Yes, So you

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<v Speaker 1>take one and I take one. Yeah, okay, And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's that third bit right that has the information. So

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<v Speaker 1>it says. For a simple example of how this works,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you place one photon from the entangled pair

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles and the other in New York. In

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, a scientist measures one of the entangled photons

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<v Speaker 1>and the third particle at the same time. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>find out their exact properties, but just their relative ones

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<v Speaker 1>if they are the same or opposite of one another,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance. And the particles get destroyed during this measurement.

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<v Speaker 1>So the scientists has measured figures out. Let's say it's horizontal.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say that she discovers that the particles are opposites,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that the one that is entangled, Okay, that the

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pair is opposite from the third particle.

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<v Speaker 1>That bit of information, they're opposite from each other. And

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<v Speaker 1>she relays this information to her New York colleague. He

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<v Speaker 1>then measures the entangled photon and knows that the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of that measurement is the bit of information he was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to receive. Yeah, there you go, clear as clear,

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.719
<v Speaker 1>clear as is mud. Right there. Um. It makes me

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>we ran across a number of different quote unquote simplified

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>explanations for this stuff. When we're looking at it, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's one that involves like a secret like police investigation

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<v Speaker 1>involving detectives, Romulus and Remus and Alice. It it gets

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<v Speaker 1>very complex even when you're trying to do a very

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<v Speaker 1>simple explanation, and a lot of it kept. It kept.

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<v Speaker 1>Made me think of the movie Labyrinth in which uh

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah encounters the two doors with the with the the

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<v Speaker 1>muppety creatures behind them, where one of them says that

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<v Speaker 1>they both informer that one of them always tells the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them always lies. And then one tells

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<v Speaker 1>her you know what the other one would say, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to try and work out in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>what that answer means and which doors you should take

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<v Speaker 1>based on that answer, and it's it's really a mind work. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with a Romulus and Remus example that we

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<v Speaker 1>did not talk about for a good reason is because

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<v Speaker 1>it also brings cultural drink into the conversation. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>relevant to it, right, because Romulus and Remus is an

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<v Speaker 1>entirely different thing. All they wanted in this analogy were twins.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, um so, but I got to attach their characters.

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>They had to name them. Suddenly they were invested in them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just trying to understand plans. All I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know is this entangled pair, how are they behaving?

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<v Speaker 1>And what is their behavior? Tell us about this third particle? Right,

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.479
<v Speaker 1>don't kind of distract us by telling a good story, right,

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 1>good stuff? Um, but it's it's again. This is uh,

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>this cryptography, right, This this key that is inserted to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a bit of information, and this essentially is

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<v Speaker 1>what these entangled pairs are doing. Real quick, just to

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<v Speaker 1>mention another story that we discussed briefly, but we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up not including. There was a really cool article about

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<v Speaker 1>dissonant music and what happens when animals listen to it,

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<v Speaker 1>or more importantly, what's what happens when people listen to it?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a u c l A team that

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<v Speaker 1>looked into this, and they found that that just distorted

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and jarring music is really is so evocative because the

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<v Speaker 1>mechanisms are closely related to distress calls in animals. So

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea here is that everyone, like you know, perks

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<v Speaker 1>up at Woodstock and listens to Jimi Hendrix playing the

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<v Speaker 1>national anthem because it's jarring and there's distortion, and you know,

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>it calls out to our our deeper animal selves. So

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<v Speaker 1>I found that found it interesting and they were also

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<v Speaker 1>they also did some studies in like two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>ten where they're looking at and classic movies and various

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<v Speaker 1>genres including horror and looking at UH at the soundtracks

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and how they differ and the kind of emotions they evoked.

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And and they did see that like horror films tended

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<v Speaker 1>to to use more screaming females and distorted vocals UH

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>distorted sounds in their soundtracks. Um So anyway, I just

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>found it's, like said, there's not a lot of meat

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<v Speaker 1>really there to chew on. But it's interesting to think

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<v Speaker 1>about that in terms of of music that we find.

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<v Speaker 1>Please maybe they did a study and and uh and everything.

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>We're like, you know, subjects were rating music that they

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<v Speaker 1>listened to, uh on a negative and positive scale. They

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>were listening to stuff that was distorted and stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>was more you know, serene and uh and more melody

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Uh and it. But it did make me

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<v Speaker 1>think about music that combines both because they're certainly there's

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.719
<v Speaker 1>straight up noise music you can listen to straight up

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just extreme electronic distortion and stuff that sounds

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>uh in my wife's words, like someone throwing a xylophone

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<v Speaker 1>down a set of stairs. And then you have you know,

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>more stuff that's all the way on the on the

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>serene level. But then you have music that sort of

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>incorporates both, like like some of the groups that I

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>really like that that toy with the nose, that the

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>nose the noise uh section here, like like Autecker. They

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they use a certain amount of serene and sounds and

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of melody, but then also a lot

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of you know, unpredictable um uh, distorted noise as well,

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 1>and it sort of comes together in this sort of

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting place that that it makes you think, what's it's

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>touching based with the you know, the part of my

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>mind it wants, you know, calmness and serenity, but also

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in this this animal part of my mind that is

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>responding to something that might be the sound of an

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>animal dying. Yeah, it's stimulating, right, So it's interesting to

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>have both of those um I also wanted to mention,

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and I don't have the information right in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is off top of my head. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was a chimp in Germany, a zoo in Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard about this chump um That was remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of things, but mainly because he would

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<v Speaker 1>take rocks, put them nearby him, and then sit there

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and wait for zoo visitors to come by and will

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>be act very relaxed, and then just when when the

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>zoo visitor sort of didn't realize or was distracted by something,

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>with launch an attack with those rocks. And I thought

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it was fascinating because not only does it show premeditative behavior,

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>which we know systin animals, particularly in chimps, but it

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>shows the ability for these chimps to actually enter into

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the realm of acting and in order to pull off

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>this subterfuge against these zoo visitors. And uh, the video

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>on it is fascinating. I thought that was an interesting

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>bit of animal behavior from this year. All right, well,

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>there you go, just some overlooked, potentially overlooked, but really

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>cool bits of science from that we wanted to clean

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>up there and present to you. So let's call over

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the robit for a little listener mail. Before I read

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<v Speaker 1>some of these, I do want to point out real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>In a previous episode, I mentioned pugs, the breed of dog,

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and I talked about how useless they were, uh, you know,

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>because the largely you encounter a pug, and the pug

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>is just this slightly you know, this kind of poorly

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>put together dog that has trouble with with heat and

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>too much exercise and is ultimately just a lap creature. Uh.

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Or at least that's the way I used to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But just yesterday I was on Marta, Atlanta's

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>public transportation system. I saw a young lady in a

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>wheelchair and she had a helper animal that was a pug,

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's recast your opinion. I have to come back

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>some of what I thought about pugs, because here's a

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>pug and he's uh. I think it was a she actually,

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>But there was that pug and she was doing her job,

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>representing calmly there by the by the wheelchair as a

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>train roared by. So how did you know she was she? Well,

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I could sort of. She was slim, so

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you could sort of tell what was going on under there.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like you picked the dog up and

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>turned her over the idea I rolled her Alpha roll

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the dog. No, it's always a no no. Don't alpha

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>roll a helper an, especially on public transportation. Exactly. All right, Well, um,

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>here's a little bit of listener mail from our listener Brad.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Brad writes and says, hey, you guys are awesome. I

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>am at a party right now. And that's the thing.

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>This first time anyone has written this from a party

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that they've mentioned it. But he says, I am at

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a party right now, and it was just plugging your

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>biology of Gremlin's episode. The crowd here were so excited.

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>We got to pondering the biology of zombies. Hint, you

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>need to do an episode on the biology of zombies.

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm gonna say, Bratt. I don't know what

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to think about that one. The potential there,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I know there are some. I mean, it ultimately comes

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>down to are their real world biological analogs? Because that

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>was the fun of the Gremlins, was taking something that

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>seems wacky and stupid and totally just made up without

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>any real regard for the natural world and pairing it

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>with things in the natural world that are just as amazing. Um,

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's some parallels with zombies we'd have

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>we'd have to explore. Speaking of have you seen a

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>trailer for the Zombies Love Story movie that's coming out?

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Telling is it? Does it look good? Yeah? Somehow they well,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it looks kind of hokey too, because

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>somehow the zombies seem to heal themselves through the powerful

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of If I was actually paying attention to this trailer,

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>um in a meaningful way, but we might be interesting,

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, We'll look out for that one. We also

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>received a number of cool contents from people who listen

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to our teen Angst episode, we were talking about the

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the science of teen ankst. Well, what's going on with

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the teenager's brain? Why? Why did teenagers seem so different?

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>And why as teenagers do we feel ultimately so different

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>about the world and about our social life than uh,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>than we did when we were younger, and then we

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>do when we get older. So we heard from a

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>number of people. Here's one from listener Jordan's. Jordan rights

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>in and says, Hey, they're just finished listening to your

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>podcast on teenage angst. I just wanted to let you

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>know that, being a teenager myself, I have experienced some

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of these tricks the mind plays, but most of the

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>time I can overcome the brain's way of tricking me.

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Like when one of my friends desired, uh that he

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>no longer be my friend, I myself didn't care, but

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I started having bad dreams about this non friend of mine,

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and I would wake up and I would think to myself,

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't really care care. Why is this person's Why

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>is it so important to me? Thanks for explaining this

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to me. Keep up the great podcasting work. Regards Jordan's.

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>We heard from Drake. Drake wrote in says, hello, I

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>just listened to your Teenage Teenager podcast and was interested

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>in a change of consciousness. I was absorbed in all

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>of the facts that you guys stated because in a

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>few months, I too will know what, uh what it's

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like to be a teenager. I used to think that

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>taking risk and rebellion were just things that teens did

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to fit in or to look cool, But now I

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>know that there's some science behind it. Besides, I never

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>really knew how to fit in any way. Keep up

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the great work, and I'm happy you've got this message.

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's from Drake from Nevada. So we received a

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>number of other comments and it's all I wish we

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>could read them all. Um. A lot of the cool

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>moments where people either were reevaluating the teenagers they were

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>or took a close look at the teenagers they were becoming,

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>also wanted to mention. We got an email from Isabelle

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and she took us to task for not exploring teens

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>who exercise great amounts of self control, because she said

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that she believes that there are a good subsection here

0:33:54.800 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of teenagers who are honest and who um, who can

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of control their states of rebellion and so on

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and so forth, and I thought, you know, she makes

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting point, and that might make for a

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 1>good podcast in the future here talking about self control

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and teenagers and why some teenagers are successful at that. Um, Like,

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>ultimately we could do like a how to guide for

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>for teenagers, the teenager the teenage brain owners guide. Yeah, like,

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>what you know, is it higher functioning? Why are some

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>teenagers more mature than others? Because I certainly thought of

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>examples of teenagers I know in my life who are

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>who do seem very responsible and have a good amount

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of self control. So I thought she's got a point there,

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>perhaps something we can pursue here in the future. Yeah. Well,

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about this episode with with my wife

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and she brought up to that It's like, it's kind

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>of a little disturbing to think about how the the

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>range in which one has the teenage brain. You know,

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>it can it can hit pretty early, and then it

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 1>can it can also hit kind of late and last

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>up until you know, basically in mid twenties. And at

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that point, like we we were already sitting and sending

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>these individuals to to college, We're already sending these individuals

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>to war. Um, you know that they're they're voting. I mean,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>they're all these these things that are happening and uh

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and but there's still you know, potentially in this uh,

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>this state of development. So yeah, Well, we also got

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>an email and just thinking about that that have different

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>states and experiences that teenagers going through. We've got an

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>email from a woman named Michela who is twenty three

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>years now, uh, but she became pregnant at the age

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of eighteen, and she depends that this really insightful, interesting

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>email about how that experience may have changed her brain

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>as a teenager in how she looks at her sister

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and her sister's behavior and start contrast to her own.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a very interesting email that we don't

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>have time to read. But thank you MICHAELA for sending in. Yeah. Yeah,

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0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.280
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0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.680
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0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.080
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0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:00.960
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