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Speaker 1: another episode of Nightcamp. As you watch the Minnesota Vikings
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Speaker 1: Henley joining us a bit later. But first, oh shoe
Speaker 1: this game, I bet man, I'm speechless. Oho, Minnesota was
Speaker 1: just going around like, how long? Justin Jefferson before we
Speaker 1: throw its headed up in the stands because not targeting.
Speaker 1: JJ threw a horrible pick, you know, horrible pick six.
Speaker 1: You know that deep out if you lay and inside.
Speaker 1: He got a reservation for six in the N zone.
Speaker 1: And the next thing you know, Minnesota has seized control
Speaker 1: of this ball game. I'm almost certain the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: spent ninety four million.
Speaker 2: Dollars excuse me, on the offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: They got a new center, they got a new left guard,
Speaker 1: they got a new right tackle.
Speaker 2: Oh Troe, I couldn't tell. No, Caleb Wiver was running
Speaker 2: for his life.
Speaker 1: If Caleb Williams is not as if Caleb winims with
Speaker 1: Jared Golf, he sacked ten times.
Speaker 3: Tonight, easily, he's running for his life.
Speaker 1: But I was like, hold on, I thought you and
Speaker 1: I both because we talked about this, said, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: they move the offensive line. They got Rome of Doonsay,
Speaker 1: they got a DJ Moore, they got the kills, they
Speaker 1: get drafted, the tight got another tight end, they got
Speaker 1: Cole Commit. Defense seemed to be flying around, and they
Speaker 1: got Ben Johnson calling plays. DA if the Dennis Allen
Speaker 1: is the new DC, I said, I like Chicago rebound
Speaker 1: the offensive line, Oh joe. The offensive line looked the same,
Speaker 1: if not worse than what it did last year. Give
Speaker 1: Minnesota credit. I happy to give JJ McCarthy a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. He's a theoretically he's not a rookie, but
Speaker 1: last year got hurt in his rookie season.
Speaker 2: But this is like his rookie season. To all pick
Speaker 2: a pick six on.
Speaker 1: The road and not and not get down Ojo, and
Speaker 1: to come back and throw two touchdown and win this
Speaker 1: game in your first start.
Speaker 2: Give JJ McCarthy some credit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, listen watching this game, I really thought I was.
Speaker 3: I thought at some point I thought the bands were
Speaker 3: going to run away with this one.
Speaker 2: I did too.
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams looked like Houdini back there, obviously when being
Speaker 3: able to process dropping back when things happened. One of
Speaker 3: the few quarterbacks in the NFL that can make something
Speaker 3: out of nothing when things break down. He looked good,
Speaker 3: made some very good throws obviously once the pick six happened.
Speaker 3: Once the pick six happened and jj JJ left that
Speaker 3: out route inside, I was like, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 3: at this point, this one's over. His game is over.
Speaker 3: Oh man, JJ kep on plugging. He did, kept on plugging,
Speaker 3: play here and play there. He also being a dual
Speaker 3: threat quarterback, being both of them both of them can
Speaker 3: move with the ball too. Yeah for sure, Yeah, both
Speaker 3: of them move with the ball.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Before you know it, Man, we got a ball game, baby,
Speaker 3: you got a ball game.
Speaker 1: Uh you're looking at you thought that out route. You
Speaker 1: got to be early and outside because if you even
Speaker 1: if you late, it's going to it's gonna be knocked
Speaker 1: down at worst. Yeah, no, it'll be knocked down at best.
Speaker 1: The worst thing that happened is a pick six going
Speaker 1: the other way.
Speaker 2: But if you late and inside, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah mm hm, and you you got to have you
Speaker 3: got to have an arm. You know most coaches all
Speaker 3: the way out. You got to have an arm. So
Speaker 3: obviously JJ Musk got a gun on him for the
Speaker 3: coaches to be comfortable with him even throwing that ball.
Speaker 3: But it's all about placement. It's all you want to
Speaker 3: miss far rather than miss inside.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: Hey, when he catched that ball, Oh, Joe, he out
Speaker 1: of bounds. You watch it, you get two feet down,
Speaker 1: you out of bounds. Yes, basically, when you throw that
Speaker 1: when that jo playing that right foot, that ball need
Speaker 1: to be in there because he's running on the he's
Speaker 1: not stopping, so he's running a speed out out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so when he hit so before he hit that ball
Speaker 1: got to be in there with his speed out when
Speaker 1: he ten roll to twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he got to drop in his hands when
Speaker 3: his eyes turned back to look for the ball. That
Speaker 3: ball already got to be in the air.
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, he got that ball.
Speaker 3: Got to already be in the air, and he got
Speaker 3: to catch the eye line of the ball in flight,
Speaker 3: not watching leaving your hand because way too late. That
Speaker 3: got its way too late.
Speaker 1: And you see the first of all, your the dude
Speaker 1: playing off. Yeah, so once he sees now he ran
Speaker 1: out and up he cooked. But you see how hard
Speaker 1: you see how hard he drove on that ojo.
Speaker 2: So he knew.
Speaker 1: Hey once he once he saw Jella putting that foot
Speaker 1: in the dirt, he says, all you run it out
Speaker 1: of I'll come driving this. And he gotta trust it though,
Speaker 1: because a lot of guys they have his head like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what if it's outing up and you
Speaker 1: know you gotta get that to knock it down. He's like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust this. If they got an out and
Speaker 1: up coach, oh, well, they got it on this one.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm taking this one to the house.
Speaker 1: But Minnesota, I didn't see. I didn't see no, I
Speaker 1: saw no sounds of life. Because think about it, oh Joe, this,
Speaker 1: like I said, the score was seventeen to six, seventeen
Speaker 1: to six, and the next thing you know, Minnesota scored
Speaker 1: twenty one unanswered. Chicago got a late touchdown, got a
Speaker 1: late touchdown to make it twenty seven twenty four. But
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota going on the road in the hostile environment.
Speaker 1: This is a division game and they're doing it with
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. And for him to put up the
Speaker 1: stats that he did. Look, it wasn't you know thirteen
Speaker 1: or twenty one forty three. They ran the ball twenty
Speaker 1: six times for a buck twenty. But for him to
Speaker 1: go on the road in that environment and to do
Speaker 1: when things did not because ojo. If he then got
Speaker 1: off to a great start, I totally understood them winning,
Speaker 1: but it got off to a shaky start, and for
Speaker 1: him to keep plugging away and keep plugging away. If
Speaker 1: quarterback coach is Josh McCown, I say, with the three years,
Speaker 1: Josh McCown is a head coach.
Speaker 2: Oh Josh, what's you over under three years? Oh? Your
Speaker 2: head coach? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Probably probably, especially for quarterback success. Anytime you coach a
Speaker 3: pacific position and that pacific position continues to succeed on
Speaker 3: whatever team you're coaching. If it's a quarterback, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get your opportunity. Yeah, libably gonna get your opportunity.
Speaker 1: He played a long time, you know, back up made
Speaker 1: some plays. I mean I think you played like seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen years. Oh, ja, a long time Yeah, he played
Speaker 1: a long time. But Minnesota. You got to give Minnesota
Speaker 1: credit chat because, like I said, I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: I saw nothing that would make me believe that they
Speaker 1: had a chance to win this game. Especially through the
Speaker 1: first three quarters. I saw nothing. I saw no life,
Speaker 1: especially offensively. Now, give the defense credit.
Speaker 2: H h and the d C. Who's the DC forma
Speaker 2: coach of the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Give him credit because he had those guys flying around.
Speaker 1: They're making plays, Van Greenkle and hard Grove, those guys.
Speaker 1: Those guys were flying around tonight. That's one thing he
Speaker 1: could do now he dial uped that defense. They get
Speaker 1: after you Vikings, Vikings, d ces Flores. Yes, yes, Floor
Speaker 1: give him, give him credit. He had those guys playing.
Speaker 1: They were getting pressure with with with.
Speaker 2: Four guys occasionally they're bringing extra pressure.
Speaker 1: But I thought Chicago would be better because they invested
Speaker 1: in what many thought was a weakness, which is their
Speaker 1: offensive line. Tony is an All Pro, a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 1: They got Jackson from the Rams. Forget where the center
Speaker 1: came from, but they got it. And I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: are y'all sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did y'all forget how to block? Did y'all have to
Speaker 1: get how to pass it? Did you get out of the
Speaker 1: run block. I'm like, cause this is this is a
Speaker 1: recap of what it was last year.
Speaker 3: Last night. Basically hell JJ McCarthy he threw to TV
Speaker 3: in less than what three four minutes?
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, it's games like this, like what we
Speaker 3: saw last night. We saw the night where people say,
Speaker 3: oh man, seventeen six, this game is over. You know,
Speaker 3: they go do something else, come to go in the
Speaker 3: garage and come back in and the Viking's win the game.
Speaker 3: Oh man, hey, no, this ship is rigged.
Speaker 5: Rigg.
Speaker 3: It's all rigged and listen. It was surprising to me too,
Speaker 3: but to actually washing them fold, I'm like, well, god, damn,
Speaker 3: I see why people say that. But then you think
Speaker 3: to yourself, no, it ain't rig because I didn't been
Speaker 3: out there on that field.
Speaker 1: In the momentum, you know, when the momentum, When the
Speaker 1: moment the momentum, you're own metal way, It does not
Speaker 1: matter if when you get well, that's what I try
Speaker 1: to explain to people. Oyo, when you have the momentum,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have it because the momentum is gonna swing.
Speaker 2: You get it. They get it. You get it, they
Speaker 2: get it. Get it. How much separation can you put
Speaker 2: between you and the team when you.
Speaker 1: Have the momentum, because they're gonna get it back at
Speaker 1: some point, absolutely, And if you haven't put enough momentum,
Speaker 1: if you haven't put enough space separation, they're gonna come
Speaker 1: back and bite you.
Speaker 3: Well, when you would think with that momentum, you would
Speaker 3: think a seventeen to six lead is enough, is enough
Speaker 3: space to not lose the game. But you have jj
Speaker 3: come come together in that fourth quarter, is right? Who
Speaker 3: the hell is?
Speaker 1: Well, if you think about it, o Jo, that's really
Speaker 1: that's not a I mean, seventeen to six, that's really
Speaker 1: a touchdown, a two point conversion of the field goal.
Speaker 1: It's not like the Ravens last night. The Ravens were
Speaker 1: up fifteen with under five minutes to go. And so now,
Speaker 1: o Jo, you need a touchdown, You need two touchdowns
Speaker 1: and a two point conversion just to get even, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to get even. So that was a little bit
Speaker 1: more formidable, especially and it's still, like you said, it's
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But I thought that was a bore
Speaker 1: of seemingly an insurmountable lead than what we saw tonight.
Speaker 1: But considering you got a rookie who hadn't been doing
Speaker 1: much that is. Look, no matter what you thought about Buffalo,
Speaker 1: that they do have the reigning MVP. Yeah, they do
Speaker 1: have the guy that you know he can go crazy.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen we haven't seen anything from JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: that would make us think that the Minnesota had that
Speaker 1: in them other than pride, other than this the division rival,
Speaker 1: and we know them. They know us because guess what
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was at. He was at Detroit last year.
Speaker 1: So offensively, even though he's at another team, Brian Floyd's
Speaker 1: already know where he's gonna run because I've been coaching
Speaker 1: against this guy for the last two three years, so
Speaker 1: I know who and what he is. The only thing
Speaker 1: ain't changes the color of the uniforms. Now, now O'Connell
Speaker 1: is gonna have to go back and fill out look
Speaker 1: at and say da and see what he ran when he.
Speaker 2: Was in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe pull out some tape when he was
Speaker 1: the head coach at at the Raiders, or old footage
Speaker 1: of when you was the DC at Denver.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, they know this offense.
Speaker 1: They know Chicago's offense because they Florida's been coaching against
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson for two to three years. But I was
Speaker 1: I was very disappointed in what I saw from Chicago. Ojoe. Offensively,
Speaker 1: you think, so, yeah, you got two number one okay,
Speaker 1: you got Roma Dooms, a number one pick, you got
Speaker 1: dj Or, you got cole Kmet, you got Zakias, you
Speaker 1: got Loveling, and you got the number one pick in
Speaker 1: the draft, and you rebuilt your offensive line. You spent
Speaker 1: ninety four million dollars, fifty five of it we goes
Speaker 1: this year towards that offensive line. In the offensive line
Speaker 1: didn't look any better. Yeah, all right, you had Chicago.
Speaker 1: You say Chicago was your surprise team.
Speaker 3: I did? I did?
Speaker 2: You did? I mean, so you should be surprised. Also,
Speaker 2: they look like this to me.
Speaker 3: To me, I'm I'm not. I'm not. I'm throwing caution
Speaker 3: to win simply because this Week one, that's all.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: And I've done that. You notice when it comes to
Speaker 3: the Week one games. Yes, I haven't been too crazy.
Speaker 3: The way the Dolphins look, the chance of them actually
Speaker 3: looking that bad again and back to back weeks is
Speaker 3: slipping none. It's the NFL. So because of this Week
Speaker 3: one I've given almost every team some grace. Now we're
Speaker 3: getting down the rod dunk and we we and we
Speaker 3: three and we and we we and we three and
Speaker 3: week four and stuff is looking like like what we
Speaker 3: saw to night, allowing team to come back from you know,
Speaker 3: being down in the deficits like that, and they coming
Speaker 3: back and win in the fourth quarter. What happened the
Speaker 3: other night with with Baltimore, Yeah, scoring sixteen points in
Speaker 3: a fotus fan in an NFL game.
Speaker 1: In one quarter, we scored twenty scored twenty two points,
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, had scored twenty eight and the
Speaker 1: second half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, we talking about and in real life, not
Speaker 3: a video game, real life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Josh, Because Josh had like two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty something passing yards if I'm not mistaken, in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter alone.
Speaker 3: It was crazy. But but again week one and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give him. I'm gonna get the Bears really some
Speaker 3: grace watching Kayler Williams made some good throws, had to
Speaker 3: run for his life. He had to be Houdini.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, my god.
Speaker 3: And I don't know Joe Joe Joe Toney would would
Speaker 3: would be the captain's left guard, I mean, yeah, he
Speaker 3: would be the leader of that that offensive line.
Speaker 1: And I think Jonah Jackson they got from the Rams.
Speaker 1: I think delmon A Dolmond. I'm not sure. I'm just
Speaker 1: I've just glanced at his name when he was on
Speaker 1: the back because it was you know, you could see it,
Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, it was sideways. I
Speaker 1: couldn't see it because he was chack some somebody that
Speaker 1: was going by. But this is not no, this is
Speaker 1: not what Ben Johnson envisioned. Like you said, it is
Speaker 1: the first game. But I just thought I would see
Speaker 1: I would see more, I would see better from what
Speaker 1: I saw from the Chicago from the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: But give Minnesota credit.
Speaker 1: They go on the road basically with a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: and they get a very hard for Division A division win.
Speaker 2: So they're tied with Green Bay. I want to know
Speaker 2: atop the division and the Bears and the Lions are
Speaker 2: zero to one.
Speaker 1: They're at the bottom of the division. Oh, Drew Dolmen,
Speaker 1: that's his name, Drew Dolmen. JJ McCarthy is the first
Speaker 1: Vikings quarterback with multiple touchdown passes in his first NFL
Speaker 1: game since Hall of Famer in nineteen sixty one. Fran targeted.
Speaker 1: That performance also came against Dubb Bears. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you don't remember, friand but friend used to be running all.
Speaker 3: Over first Scramley quarterback. Uh no, maybe, yeah, Frank talking
Speaker 3: to it number ten. Yeah, come on, I was. I
Speaker 3: went to two of his games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was scrabbling. But that's a congratulations.
Speaker 1: Minnesota twenty seven, twenty four, Congratulations JJ McCarthy. Two touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: First time it's been done by starter, a rookie star
Speaker 1: of what hold up? What was?
Speaker 4: Was?
Speaker 2: What was the thing?
Speaker 1: The first vick to the quarterback with multiple touchdown passes
Speaker 1: in his first NFL game. There have been a lot
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks start for Minnesota between sixty one in twenty
Speaker 1: five with JJ.
Speaker 2: McCarthy and Fran Target.
Speaker 1: Then to do it, and you're talking about my sister
Speaker 1: was born in sixty so she's sixty five, so sixty
Speaker 1: four years. Had a laugh between a quarterback and his
Speaker 1: first NFL game.
Speaker 2: Two touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: Congratulations JJ McCarthy, Oh Joe, Oh Joe. Russell Wilson will
Speaker 1: remain the New York Giants starting quarterback for Sunday's game. Again,
Speaker 1: it's the Dallas Cowboy coach and Bryan dave Bos said.
Speaker 1: Dave Ball said there will never a serious decision make.
Speaker 1: Despite rookie Jackson Dark waiting in the ring wings, Russ
Speaker 1: will be the start of Russ went seventeen to thirty
Speaker 1: seven one sixty eight, with no touchdowns or interceptions in
Speaker 1: the season opening loss. He was especially ineffective under pressure
Speaker 1: Ojo two of twelve twenty six yards with two sacks,
Speaker 1: two scrambles. New York managed just two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: one yards of total offense, installed twice inside the red zone.
Speaker 1: I think the last thing you want to do, O Joe,
Speaker 1: is start a rookie on the road in Dallas, the
Speaker 1: vision rival, hostile environment, all things being equal, I would
Speaker 1: rather start him at home or coming out of the
Speaker 1: by So I give that a little extra time to prepare.
Speaker 3: But what you think, O Joe, I mean, listen, is
Speaker 3: no question not the panic you're hitting the panic, but
Speaker 3: button at.
Speaker 2: The week one.
Speaker 3: Obviously, if you watch the game, if you watch the
Speaker 3: Giants play against the Commanders, Hell Russell is running for
Speaker 3: his life too. Now what he does have to do
Speaker 3: he has to settle down in that pocket a little bit.
Speaker 3: I look, got the head, I look and hit upside
Speaker 3: of the head. Sometimes take the first throw you see
Speaker 3: and just let it go because you hold it on
Speaker 3: ball waiting for things to develop, and you don't have
Speaker 3: the time for that to happen. And it showed. Listen,
Speaker 3: if I don't, I don't again in situations like that
Speaker 3: with the defensive line on top of Russell Wilson, where
Speaker 3: he can't make the throws or see the passing lanes
Speaker 3: that he wants to. I'm getting the ball out right away,
Speaker 3: right away, understanding what defense in front of me and
Speaker 3: whatever my first read is. But the ball is coming
Speaker 3: right away, so get your head around.
Speaker 1: I want to get the ball out right away. But
Speaker 1: nobody's opened right away because the thing I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do is I'm trying to take that first throw away.
Speaker 1: And I first of all, Oh, they gotta be lanes.
Speaker 1: Russia only so tall. It's not like he's Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: It's not like he can see over the lineman and
Speaker 1: see down in the field. He needs lanes to be
Speaker 1: able to see. Yeah, all things being equal, he'd liked
Speaker 1: to buy some time. He'd like to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a little outside of the pocket, so I can clearly
Speaker 1: see yeah, but I agree, I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think maybe, if not that for the first game. But
Speaker 1: I still I still believe over under eight games that
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is going to be starting.
Speaker 2: Now. It's going to be interesting to see. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's reports that they might have a package or two
Speaker 1: for Jackson Dark on Sunday. The question is, do you
Speaker 1: think they'll have a package on Sunday in Dallas for
Speaker 1: Jackson Dark or they just let they let Russ ride it.
Speaker 3: Out, Let Rush cook. Let Russ let him cook. If
Speaker 3: you're the head chef for the restaurant, right, if you're
Speaker 3: a headshift for the restaurant, you don't want one of
Speaker 3: the waiters outside coming in and telling you how to cook.
Speaker 3: You don't want them missing up your rhythm. As a quarterback. Listen,
Speaker 3: if Jackson Arety's gonna sit, allow him to do just that.
Speaker 3: Allow him to sit. If Russell Wilson is your head chef,
Speaker 3: let the man be quarterback number one until you decide
Speaker 3: to make a change. Hell, you might not have to
Speaker 3: make a change. You might not have to.
Speaker 2: Why would keep right?
Speaker 3: Why prep why prep Jackson and getting him ready? What
Speaker 3: messages that send to Russell Wilson. What message If he's
Speaker 3: quarterback number one, let him be quarterback number one. This
Speaker 3: ain't college, this is in high school. Okay, you know
Speaker 3: we're gonna make some special packages for this individual because
Speaker 3: we're getting him ready to play. What I don't like
Speaker 3: that message. I don't like what the sins of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: Let the man play until he loses his job.
Speaker 2: I remember what when they drafted Lamar Jackson. Yeah, had
Speaker 2: packages for him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep saying, they say, let Russ cook. But
Speaker 1: people keep sitting the dishback. So how I am I
Speaker 1: keep letting something right on? Joe?
Speaker 2: They keep sitting the dish back.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, well you're sharp boy, you're sharped. That's a
Speaker 3: good one. The dishback, Pittsburgh, sit the dishback. I mean,
Speaker 3: people keep sitting the dish see like the giants hadn't
Speaker 3: been pleased, but they say, you know what, let's order
Speaker 3: something else. Maybe it was what we ordered that wasn't
Speaker 3: up to our standard or to our satisfaction.
Speaker 1: Let's order something else. What do you recommend, Cheff Wilson,
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you go to you go to a restaurant,
Speaker 1: they have what they call chef's choice. Yes, whatever you like, Cheff,
Speaker 1: you do, do what you do. How would you like
Speaker 1: that prepared chef choice?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: So I just I think I think that's the kind
Speaker 1: of the direction that that the Giants are gonna head in.
Speaker 2: Can we can we get Dallas? Can we get the
Speaker 2: giants schedule? Can you put it a right quick?
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be more than anything, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: because the last thing I want to do is fine.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's see Philly.
Speaker 1: Okay, Philly's on the road this week in Kansas City. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's not going to be an easy game, but Kansas
Speaker 1: City is gonna be without the two top receivers. It
Speaker 1: looks like a word that is dealing with a dislocated shoulder.
Speaker 1: I told you you talked about ACA said, nah, the
Speaker 1: way that the way that collision because like you said,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you I mean, just imagine you running.
Speaker 2: It wasn't and now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said the same thing, but I said it
Speaker 3: was grade three. Yeah, well I thought it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a separated Yeah, it's a they
Speaker 1: said dislocation separation, So me and the shoulder it came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, oh, Choe let me put a jersey on.
Speaker 3: It's cold in here.
Speaker 2: Chat. They they lost to Washington.
Speaker 1: Then they got the at Dallas, Kansas City at home,
Speaker 1: Chargers at home at New Orleans, Eagles at home at Denver,
Speaker 1: at Philly, the Charge, the Niners at home at Chicago,
Speaker 1: Green Bay at home, at Detroit, at New England, Washington
Speaker 1: at home, Minnesota at home, at Las Vegas, Dallas at home.
Speaker 2: They got a smoker.
Speaker 1: So basically you look at that from September fourteenth until
Speaker 1: November November the second they got Dallas, Kansas City, the
Speaker 1: Chargers at New Orleans.
Speaker 2: We'll see Philly, Denver, Philly, Niners, Chad, what y'all thinking,
Speaker 2: How y'all, What y'all thinking, y'all, y'all y'all, how many?
Speaker 1: How many wins in there at Dallas, Kansas City at home,
Speaker 1: Chargers at home at New Orleans, Eagles at home at Denver,
Speaker 1: at Philly, Niners at home?
Speaker 2: How many wins y'all see? Boy Less, I'm unforeseen. I mean, who.
Speaker 1: Man, They're gonna have to be on their best behavior.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to really play their ass off because
Speaker 1: who that I was just I just went over their
Speaker 1: schedule and they got there at Dallas. So I just
Speaker 1: went up their schedule from September fourteenth with your Sunday
Speaker 1: all the way to November the second. So they're at Dallas,
Speaker 1: they get Kansas City at home, they get the Chargers
Speaker 1: at home, they get the Saints on the road, Eagles
Speaker 1: at home, Denver on the road.
Speaker 2: Philly on the road. That's their next seven games.
Speaker 3: But that's a nice little schedule too. That's a nice
Speaker 3: listen or not only is it a nice little schedule,
Speaker 3: it's a great test for Russell Wilson. It's a great
Speaker 3: test for Russell Wilson to see if the ball once
Speaker 3: again continue with him going forward or throw Jackson, throwt
Speaker 3: out to the Wolves. We keep we keep calling for
Speaker 3: Jackson start to come in and play. And uh that
Speaker 3: that that is a rookie in the same preseason. What
Speaker 3: you're gonna get out there in these regular season games
Speaker 3: where they're trying to confuse your quarterback and get your
Speaker 3: thinking to throw you off your pivot. It's a different
Speaker 3: ball game. It's a different ball game. Everybody, Oh, put
Speaker 3: Jackson started in. Put jack and Dart in. After one game,
Speaker 3: all right, all right.
Speaker 1: My boy, they got they they got they got they
Speaker 1: got a little tough schedule, O Joe. Oh yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: they got the Cowboys Kansas City at home. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: back to the Charger, the Chargers at home, then they're
Speaker 1: at New Orleans. Then they get Philly at home.
Speaker 3: They can breathe a little bit.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, at at Denver at Philly, the charge
Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers at home.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't know who made that schedule, but that's
Speaker 3: that's pretty.
Speaker 2: That's person Yeah, they gottah.
Speaker 1: I just I just when you look at it, O Yoe,
Speaker 1: is that the Giants are really like, Okay, we don't
Speaker 1: want to like because everybody thinks that like if you
Speaker 1: go to a rookie kind of giving up on the.
Speaker 3: Season basically is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But I don't want my fans because but the fans
Speaker 1: booing every time we come off the field when we
Speaker 1: don't give no first downs and were putting.
Speaker 3: M well listen, they gonna they're gonna be boring, extra loud.
Speaker 3: You put Jackson out there and you can't get no
Speaker 3: first downs.
Speaker 1: Well, I think people are more sympathetic to a rookie
Speaker 1: not getting the first down as opposed to Russ not
Speaker 1: getting first down because they're looking they're looking at Jackson
Speaker 1: dark as the future. They're not looking at Russ. They're like, man,
Speaker 1: look Russ, just the placeholder.
Speaker 3: Right, understandable.
Speaker 2: So, but like you said, I mean, the first two
Speaker 2: games on the road.
Speaker 1: That's never that's never easy, even if you got one
Speaker 1: of the better teams. It's tough to win on the road.
Speaker 1: It's tough to win in the NFL, it's even tougher
Speaker 1: to win on the road. And basically they give you
Speaker 1: two division opponents. You start the season with two division
Speaker 1: opponents on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, those first five or sixty games that they
Speaker 3: have in general, yes.
Speaker 1: I mean the really probably the only game they're gonna
Speaker 1: be favored in Old George. Probably, I don't know they'll
Speaker 1: be favored against the Saints because the Saints are at home.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be favored against Dallas, Kansas City, the Chargers, Uh,
Speaker 1: New Orleans at home. They're not gonna be favorite, excuse me,
Speaker 1: New Orleans.
Speaker 3: On the road.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna be favored at Philly at home. They're
Speaker 2: not gonna be favorite at Denver on the road, Philly
Speaker 2: on the road, or the forty nine as at home,
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be favorite.
Speaker 3: No, that's the nasty work. Whoever did the schedule, that's
Speaker 3: nasty work.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, their defense is gonna have to like keep
Speaker 1: him in, keep him in some of these games. But
Speaker 1: and I think in order for that to happen, that
Speaker 1: means your offense can't turn the ball over. You got
Speaker 1: to possess the ball some because if you don't possess
Speaker 1: the ball enough, you'll wear your defense down and then
Speaker 1: a crack will turn into a full blown, you know, overflow.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's what the Giants are up against.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't envy the position that they're
Speaker 1: in because they've got some tough decisions to make. They
Speaker 1: bent on one guy, Daniel Jones, and that wasn't it.
Speaker 1: They went back into the draft. Uh, they like russ Okay,
Speaker 1: hopefully Rusk can hold us over until next year. He
Speaker 1: maybe he can, maybe he can't. But jack They clearly
Speaker 1: they viewed Jackson dark as their future.
Speaker 2: But they be you know, and the offensive line. The
Speaker 2: offensive line isn't good.
Speaker 1: If somebody would have told me Evan Neil would turn
Speaker 1: out to be the player that he's turned out to be.
Speaker 1: He's not good Alabama consensus All America. Six foot seven,
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pounds. They showed him he jumping
Speaker 1: up on some with one leg. Oh Joe big.
Speaker 3: He ain't been out do what you thought.
Speaker 1: No, no, hell if if they didn't pay him all
Speaker 1: that money, he'll be a big ass equipment manager.
Speaker 2: But they got fifty sixty. But they got all that
Speaker 2: money tied up there, and he was a top ten pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean when you.
Speaker 2: Look at it, he's supposed to be the left.
Speaker 1: They move him to the right because your left tackle
Speaker 1: is supposed to be your most athletic offens alignment. Because
Speaker 1: he's dealing with the Miles Garretts, he's dealing with the
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. He's dealing with those level of guys, the
Speaker 1: vond Millers. But so they took it from the left
Speaker 1: and put him on the right. So normally that's your
Speaker 1: run side. Most people are run right handed dominant, they
Speaker 1: run to the right side. The forty nine ers buck
Speaker 1: that because it t dub is a dominant run.
Speaker 2: But most teams they run to the right. They put
Speaker 2: him on the right side on yoke. Mean, he's just
Speaker 2: like slowly turned an you got them, don't.
Speaker 3: Buy him, won't buy him? Yeah's way, dude. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: they moved him from the left tackle or they don't
Speaker 3: trust him, Oh no, they don't trust him. That's the
Speaker 3: quarterback blind side. And that's on the kind of money
Speaker 3: they paid him.
Speaker 2: Monk.
Speaker 5: He's supposed to be at left tack because that's the
Speaker 5: money position. Oh, that's what they drafted him. They draft
Speaker 5: him as the left They drafted him as a left tackle.
Speaker 5: Six foot seven three and twenty five three forty agile, I.
Speaker 1: Mean in college. But that just goes to show you.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times you play them big guys
Speaker 1: in the name O man, right man, The guys in
Speaker 1: the NFL will give a damn about your name.
Speaker 2: They don't care nothing about that.
Speaker 3: Oh at all?
Speaker 2: Alabama, man, you heard them had that big offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: He favored to win the Outland, the Lombardy and this
Speaker 1: one and that one. And so you played at Alabama,
Speaker 1: You played at one of these prominent schools. People might
Speaker 1: fear that. Don't nobody fear nobody in the NFL at all.
Speaker 3: I got I got kids to feed, Yeah, absolutely, I
Speaker 3: got bill, I got bills to pay. I don't care
Speaker 3: who you played for. You finna get his work, yes,
Speaker 3: worth of it.
Speaker 1: Well, I ain't going to Alabama and I ain't got
Speaker 1: no big time boosters. I went to Savannah State and
Speaker 1: we ain't got no big time boosters as offering jobs
Speaker 1: and all the coaching positions a field, and and and
Speaker 1: general Johnson he wouldn't hire me as a general manager
Speaker 1: of his car dealership. So I was gonna be out
Speaker 1: of work. If somebody gonna be out of work, it
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be me, That's all I'm saying. It ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be me.
Speaker 2: I got choice.
Speaker 1: We got two choices. We got a choice to make.
Speaker 1: You and I both got a choice. One of us
Speaker 1: gonna be out of work.
Speaker 2: I choose you. Now, who you nominate? Oh, Joe, who
Speaker 2: you nominate? Man? Please? I'm just I'm just surprised though, Joe.
Speaker 1: I just thought that he was like I was like, man,
Speaker 1: But if you go back and look at it, a
Speaker 1: lot of those offensive linemen from Alex Leatherwood and Jonah
Speaker 1: with a lot of those guys then pan out. Yeah, Dickerson,
Speaker 1: he got hurt. He'd won it towards the A C L.
Speaker 1: He might be that best lineman, and they got another
Speaker 1: one that I think he played center at at.
Speaker 2: The end at the coats. But all the rest of
Speaker 2: those top linemen.
Speaker 3: Pork chop blomack right right. It's different. It's different when
Speaker 3: the when the level of competition evens out and you're
Speaker 3: playing against grown man all the stuff we did in college.
Speaker 3: Unless it carry unless it carries over, and you're who
Speaker 3: we thought you were, you'll get exposed.
Speaker 1: Right, that's you're You're exactly right, because like you said,
Speaker 1: people guys got just imagine if you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: this hot shot guy and I go through you, what
Speaker 1: does that do for my confidence?
Speaker 2: I ain't looking at you.
Speaker 1: I'm looking because I heard what everything's everybody your top
Speaker 1: ten pick you, all these all these credentials at the
Speaker 1: University of Alabama and all that sec first car all unanimous,
Speaker 1: all American out the troph man.
Speaker 2: Please, that ain't got nothing to do with me? All right?
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe joining us right now? Livebacker dey Yon, Henley,
Speaker 1: dey Yon. How you doing, bro chilling Man, Good to
Speaker 1: see y'all. Man, Ben, It's good to see you.
Speaker 2: Ogs.
Speaker 3: I'm only I'm only throw I'm only twenty three. I'm
Speaker 3: only twenty three.
Speaker 6: Not of Ogs man Ogs.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Bro.
Speaker 1: I was gladly accept that big game. Friday night. You're
Speaker 1: on the road in Brazil, you get there a little early.
Speaker 1: You understand what's at state. Look, young guys went to
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. But the big dog on top
Speaker 1: of the mountain that you guys trying to topple, the
Speaker 1: Broncos try on the topple. They're the team that's the
Speaker 1: red and the white. They've been at They've been at
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain for twelve thirteen years consecutive.
Speaker 1: And you say, you know what, Coach Harbor come in
Speaker 1: there with that attitude, said, nah, you know what, it's
Speaker 1: time for a new king to be in the kingdom.
Speaker 2: What were you.
Speaker 1: Guys as thought process? How did you guys go out
Speaker 1: there and get this job done?
Speaker 4: I mean, like you just said, we already had that
Speaker 4: mindset that we was going to get some guys who've been,
Speaker 4: you know, known to run the conference, not only the
Speaker 4: conference but the league for the past few years. But
Speaker 4: we're in a different era right now as far as
Speaker 4: our team goes, as far as organization, it's Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 4: and and we're trying to show that right now, that's
Speaker 4: all Brandon football that you've just seen that Friday night
Speaker 4: out there in Brazil, and that's just what we're trying
Speaker 4: to drive throughout the rest of the season, not only
Speaker 4: just for this season, but for years to come. And
Speaker 4: you know, to you know, be the best, you got
Speaker 4: to beat the best, and at one point it was
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, but we also got them them dudes in
Speaker 4: Green this season too.
Speaker 6: So we looking forward to it, were looking for to
Speaker 6: all the comp we want all of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed what you guys did Friday, obviously justin
Speaker 3: Herbert doing what he needed to do and putting the
Speaker 3: league on notice. And defensively, where y'all young, y'all young
Speaker 3: bulls that they're flying around, playing with the nasty, being physical,
Speaker 3: you know, coming to the party, you know, as a group.
Speaker 3: So look at looking forward to the next game, what
Speaker 3: do you think you guys need to do to continue
Speaker 3: to make sure you solidify yourselves as true contenders, not
Speaker 3: just in the division. But I know it's only week two,
Speaker 3: but to compete for Lombardi truth, because based on what
Speaker 3: we saw the other night, you got the quarterback that
Speaker 3: to do so.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I tweeted out right after the
Speaker 4: game was respecting. That's something that we as a team
Speaker 4: we hold that, we hold that real high because I mean,
Speaker 4: you only as good as your quarterback. And then as
Speaker 4: you feel me like when we got a guy and
Speaker 4: a leader in him, we know how far we can
Speaker 4: take this team. And we believe in not only him,
Speaker 4: but as far as our coaches and the staff and
Speaker 4: what we built here.
Speaker 6: We just ready to, you know, to prove it, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So like me, we're looking for it. It was week
Speaker 4: by week, you know, one and oh. That's the goal
Speaker 4: every week is to be one of those get it
Speaker 4: two or o and see how far we can take
Speaker 4: this thing. You know, we can't take any game for granted.
Speaker 4: All smoke. Like I said, it's welcome. And then you
Speaker 4: called the young bulls, So that twenty three thing out
Speaker 4: the window. I hope you know that you called it, Joe,
Speaker 4: You was twenty three a second ago. Now we're young bulls.
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You called me o G. So I'm I'm gonna pay
Speaker 3: the respect back, and I'm gonna call you young bull.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm young bou. I'm young bu.
Speaker 4: I just want you to know you go ahead. You
Speaker 4: know it's nice and shiny though here here.
Speaker 2: What's the biggest difference.
Speaker 1: You played for a lot of coaches, I mean going
Speaker 1: up in Pop Warner and high school and college, and
Speaker 1: now you have Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2: And what did you hear about him?
Speaker 1: Did you ask anybody that ever you know played for him,
Speaker 1: played under him at the University of Michigan, at Stanford,
Speaker 1: at the Niners? Did you know anybody that played for him?
Speaker 1: And what type of coach? What are you getting? Is
Speaker 1: he everything that you thought? I mean, I would definitely
Speaker 1: say everything that I.
Speaker 4: Thought he would be before he got to us. I
Speaker 4: definitely heard a lot about coach. I mean, I mean
Speaker 4: the dude's personality. It goes through any any room, you
Speaker 4: feel me. He walks in a lot of rooms that
Speaker 4: he ain't ever been in. You know that that type
Speaker 4: of name he got and that's because of the personality
Speaker 4: and how out standing in and upstanding he is as
Speaker 4: a guy. And I heard a lot of stories about him,
Speaker 4: just about him coming to LA. You know, I'm from LA,
Speaker 4: from the from the city, and not a lot of
Speaker 4: coach do the on ground recruiting out here in the city.
Speaker 4: But I heard a lot and not only to hear
Speaker 4: a lot, but I've seen a lot of pictures of
Speaker 4: just Hardball, you know, being on foot out here and
Speaker 4: going to recruit guys and just being a relatable as
Speaker 4: relatable as he can be. So you seld me like
Speaker 4: just and he's that man. He's just that genuine type
Speaker 4: of guy. He's a guy you want to fight for,
Speaker 4: a guy that will fight with you though you know
Speaker 4: it's not gonna fighting for him, but he'll fight with you.
Speaker 4: And you love leader like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your linebackers coach Bowman both played next to him
Speaker 1: and Patrick Willis.
Speaker 2: For the longest time, there was the best two. They
Speaker 2: were the best duo in football.
Speaker 1: It was the thumpus hey uh will coming downhill. But
Speaker 1: I think Navarro Bowman was very underrated because he was
Speaker 1: playing to a guy that was an all that was
Speaker 1: perennial all Pro, that was Ward number fifty two, and
Speaker 1: his island was Ray Lewis, and he was as fast,
Speaker 1: he was as physical, and he could do it all.
Speaker 1: But Navarro Bowman, if you watch the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: if you studied the forty nine ers before he got injured,
Speaker 1: Bow was that dude.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, you see I got to take the Oakleys off.
Speaker 4: I gotta take I got it, you know, I just
Speaker 4: got them joints today. Shout out Oakly for that. But
Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about a guy with not only
Speaker 4: just the resume, but he's still he still could go
Speaker 4: ball today.
Speaker 6: I mean, I feel me. I'll be trying to keep
Speaker 6: my guy, you.
Speaker 4: Know, just at coach level, but he'll still try to
Speaker 4: get out there and show me something about hitting something.
Speaker 6: And I'll be like, come on, dude, it's my turn now.
Speaker 6: You feel me?
Speaker 4: But I look at his tape, man, I study who
Speaker 4: he is. I study who he is.
Speaker 6: You feel me.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say who he was because he
Speaker 4: is that guy. He's one hundred percent that guy. And
Speaker 4: I feel like, not only was he next to a
Speaker 4: all Hall of Famer, but him himself and what he
Speaker 4: did on that field, he should also be a bungst
Speaker 4: and ranks too one day, because I mean, he had
Speaker 4: them all pros.
Speaker 6: Uh, he had the injury. To bounce back from the injury.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The stuff that's that's unnatural, that's not really normal, and
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, you got that type of resume
Speaker 4: and then you become a coach. I look at what
Speaker 4: he do, I look at what he say. Then I
Speaker 4: can go turn on the film and be like, now
Speaker 4: you you about that? And I mean he really was
Speaker 4: the same. No no, no, no, no no, I I wait
Speaker 4: a little way up boat.
Speaker 3: I was with him, I was read. I ran le
Speaker 3: borrow a few times. You you did what ready mo
Speaker 3: overquarter court, slip quarters flat quarter of little meg dig
Speaker 3: And instead of cutting up, I just I just ran
Speaker 3: stack into him, asking about it.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, I'm asking about it.
Speaker 3: Dayla.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was hell to deal with what I was here
Speaker 3: to deal with.
Speaker 6: What I heard you shot away from contact though, I was.
Speaker 3: I was. I was six four two thirty with him
Speaker 3: shout away from.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean I remember see, I'll be watching.
Speaker 4: I'll be watching, y'all. Man, y'all got a lot of
Speaker 4: influence on us.
Speaker 6: I mean, y'all.
Speaker 4: Oh jeez, I heard you drop not being a contact receiver.
Speaker 4: I've heard bird Batim say that that wasn't in your guessing.
Speaker 4: You can't be telling Yah, I see something, but you
Speaker 4: have you have to listen to me.
Speaker 3: Close me.
Speaker 2: I'm like standing.
Speaker 3: I don't like con Ta in game because I get
Speaker 3: my uniform out the cleaners on game day. Now I
Speaker 3: welcome contact it. That's what you want to do. So
Speaker 3: have you have you see foot on dead homies? I'm
Speaker 3: with whatever on Sundays?
Speaker 5: You feel me on dead homies from dead homies, not
Speaker 5: homies though not on yours on mind.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't put them on my dad homies because
Speaker 6: I don't think you hit both.
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
Speaker 6: Right now, So you can't do that with mine doing it.
Speaker 3: Listen, if let's just I may give you a better perspective.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a better perspective and better context
Speaker 3: if it's in two twenty five. Okay, I was playing
Speaker 3: today's game and never the chance. Let's say you was
Speaker 3: playing against me? Me me, right, me, Yeah, you're playing
Speaker 3: against me.
Speaker 2: I'm locked in.
Speaker 6: I'm game mode round. Let's go locked in. Yeah, let's
Speaker 6: go before the game start.
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna talk at your game in the game.
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna I'm in the game. I'm probab. They
Speaker 3: gonna run you over at some point because you too little,
Speaker 3: you too live for me, for my type, for my kind,
Speaker 3: like I respect you and what you listen. I have
Speaker 3: been watching this since year a little kid.
Speaker 2: You didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you know he started out as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He switched to the linebacker. Hey, I was too dog
Speaker 1: for that room over there. I was too too much
Speaker 1: fum over there. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: Coach looked at me and said, you a little too
Speaker 4: physical to be doing what you're doing in these dudes.
Speaker 4: You probably should be on the dark side. And I said,
Speaker 4: you don't want If I was anything like Chad, I
Speaker 4: say no, But.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go ahead and do that. I'm gonna go
Speaker 6: ahead and flip.
Speaker 3: The switch on youall.
Speaker 1: Hey, So let me ask you a question. Who did
Speaker 1: you model coming up? Obviously you started as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: So when you were the wide receiver, who did you
Speaker 1: model your game after? And then once you switch to
Speaker 1: the defensive side and you became a linebacker, what are
Speaker 1: some of the linebackers that you're like?
Speaker 4: Okay, I like his game. Let me see if I
Speaker 4: can add some of that to mind. So this is
Speaker 4: like this whole a whole lot of life. You feel
Speaker 4: me happening in my little twenty five. But I was
Speaker 4: a QB all the way up until I got to college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I was QB from five years old to steam. I
Speaker 6: went to Chris how you don't.
Speaker 3: Listen. You gotta understand. Hold on, you got to understand
Speaker 3: I was. I was over there by Dorsey off off
Speaker 3: off third Building. So uh you feel me? O, man?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: It's all good. It's all good. That was on the
Speaker 3: other side. The respect I know about you, I know
Speaker 3: about that. I was watching you. I didn't know you.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you play quarterback though.
Speaker 6: The disrespect.
Speaker 4: Man, all I'm gonna say is, look, I was a
Speaker 4: QB right my shot at Nevada University of Nevada, they
Speaker 4: turned me into an athlete, you feel me.
Speaker 6: I didn't get an offer at a position. They offered
Speaker 6: me as an athlete.
Speaker 2: You know, look that up.
Speaker 6: That happened often.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: They put me in the receiver room, like I said,
Speaker 4: at that point, just to ask your ask you a question.
Speaker 4: I looked a lot of guys like yourself, you feel me,
Speaker 4: just just had to see how to run routes, you
Speaker 4: mean properly. I was throwing the routes, but you know,
Speaker 4: not really running routes.
Speaker 6: So I looked at you. Uh, shout out ob j H.
Speaker 4: Shout shout out on some guys who just I feel like,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, they come down with
Speaker 4: the ball. So went from that and got into my
Speaker 4: defensive side of mine. And the first dude I really
Speaker 4: like looked into was probably Ed reed Man, just just dude,
Speaker 4: because I didn't go straight linebacker. I wasn't safety at first.
Speaker 2: Okay, take the ball away.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: If I if I'm gonna look anybody, i'mnna look at
Speaker 4: who I did. Sure, And I used to watch the
Speaker 4: Ravens a lot. Shay, so shout out to you. I
Speaker 4: used to watch the Ravens a lot. I used to
Speaker 4: appreciate that. I see y'all hard, not tacking the fool.
Speaker 6: You ain't you didn't change.
Speaker 4: But but I used to watch the Ravens a lot.
Speaker 4: So every and then obviously you look, you look right below.
Speaker 4: You got ray lewis Man, you got y'all won the greats,
Speaker 4: and then you you just go from there. Once you
Speaker 4: once you get into that mindset, you just kind of
Speaker 4: just go from there and then, like you feel me,
Speaker 4: I told him this before, but shout on Navar Bowman man,
Speaker 4: you look at that Tanne that he was a part
Speaker 4: of respect. So I was able to watch a lot
Speaker 4: of grades and then to messed around and got next
Speaker 4: to one man, and it's number of respect.
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to I'm trying to make my mark.
Speaker 6: It's about legacy.
Speaker 2: Nothing. But let me ask you, what made you decide
Speaker 2: to choose zero of all the numbers you could have?
Speaker 2: I made it? What's special about zero? You see?
Speaker 6: You see what I just said about that legacy right there? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you start your own saying that legacy?
Speaker 3: Man, I mean I got to lead with that, bro.
Speaker 4: It just so happened that H zero was available for
Speaker 4: the first time in the NFL. I didn't have one
Speaker 4: as an option of my draft. My draft class mate
Speaker 4: was Quinter Johnson. He was our first rounder.
Speaker 6: He was number one of college obviously the one go
Speaker 6: to him.
Speaker 4: That was my most recent number. It was one and
Speaker 4: Lemon was taken. So I looked at zero as an
Speaker 4: opportunity to make my mark and do something. And you know,
Speaker 4: be remembered, there's a lot of zeros and and only
Speaker 4: one right now as a charger. So I just had
Speaker 4: to do what I can.
Speaker 2: You realize when you get a single digit number, now
Speaker 2: you got to be that boy. Dog.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you understand that, And hey, I'm just saying, hey,
Speaker 4: shake'm I understand that. But as always, I bet on
Speaker 4: myself and I'm not I'm not a boastful dude by
Speaker 4: any means. And even now just talking to y'all, I
Speaker 4: know where I'm at right now in my process, and
Speaker 4: I know that I'm just trying to trying to continue
Speaker 4: to grow. So I look at that zero as anything is.
Speaker 4: It's a blank sate. I'm blank slate every game every week.
Speaker 4: And what I do to build on that is is
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna leave behind when I lead that number
Speaker 4: one day. And that's what I just you know, that's
Speaker 4: how I move. That's my mindset is like you said,
Speaker 4: be a dog. You know, I gotta I gotta make
Speaker 4: that move every day. And I got coaches, got players, teammates,
Speaker 4: staff members pushing me every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you gotten through training camp, I got season.
Speaker 3: Now we've gotten through week one. How's the body feel?
Speaker 3: How is everything holding up? How you feel going into
Speaker 3: week two?
Speaker 6: I mean, one thing we know about football, y'all is
Speaker 6: are you ever one hundred percent?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: After training camp.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to tell.
Speaker 4: You you're never one hundred percent, but it's about what
Speaker 4: you can do with that percentage that you are. And
Speaker 4: so for me, my body is where it is and
Speaker 4: it's good, you know. I'm I'm dealing with my little
Speaker 4: bumps and bruises. Training camp is long, uh, marke ball
Speaker 4: training camp is as.
Speaker 2: Long as hell.
Speaker 4: Yes, super, both of them and are started early and
Speaker 4: everybody else's. We had that fourth pre season game, the
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game, So it's been a loon for us.
Speaker 4: But I got the training staff that's been taking care
Speaker 4: of me shut out them. H and we got a
Speaker 4: long season ahead of us, and I'm just maintaining, you know,
Speaker 4: I got to make sure I'm maintained and keep where
Speaker 4: I'm at right now.
Speaker 2: You went to Crimshaw High.
Speaker 1: Are there any other any other athletes or famous people
Speaker 1: that went to high school with you?
Speaker 4: With me?
Speaker 3: Yes? At this?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it wasn't It wasn't mean.
Speaker 2: You don't have no matter for your team that made
Speaker 2: it to the league.
Speaker 4: Nah, No, none of my none in my class, none
Speaker 4: and have are in the league right now. I think
Speaker 4: Daniel Griziak was a defensive end that was right under me.
Speaker 4: He was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Most recently he's
Speaker 4: he's a free agent right now. But in the past,
Speaker 4: I couldn't even tell you.
Speaker 6: It's been me. I think since like the Anthony Thomas
Speaker 6: Oh no no, uh j A. Harris was Marvel? What
Speaker 6: was about like some years ago?
Speaker 1: Could have I mean that that high school Crenshaw's put
Speaker 1: a lot of guys into the league.
Speaker 6: Yah, yeah, yeah yeah, mentioning them with me on the line.
Speaker 3: My bad, bad bad, my bad twins.
Speaker 6: I respect them for l a I do.
Speaker 4: But he Shannon, I don't think you understand this is
Speaker 4: a real rivalry, man. I mean I used to leave
Speaker 4: them games with with blood on my jersey. That wasn't
Speaker 4: from football. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. And so he keeps playing
Speaker 6: on me right now. So I'm trying to give him
Speaker 6: all them out.
Speaker 2: Okay, but check, let me ask give your father is
Speaker 2: Eugenie big u Henley?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Did he make a conscious effort or was it you
Speaker 1: to make sure you stay away from that because you
Speaker 1: mentioned Crenshaw. If we've heard all the stories, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not as if maybe it's not as heavily
Speaker 1: involved as at once was it, but it used to
Speaker 1: be a lot of gang, a lot of gang affiliation,
Speaker 1: a lot of gang violence.
Speaker 2: Did he did you do that?
Speaker 1: Or did he do make a concerted effort say, son,
Speaker 1: this is not the life for you. You're gonna go
Speaker 1: do something positive.
Speaker 4: One thing that I grew up understanding was that what
Speaker 4: my family is and who we are to this city
Speaker 4: is gonna always be with me. And my dad made
Speaker 4: it clear that I got a choice every day to
Speaker 4: make to be above all of that, you know, And
Speaker 4: so my dad made it very clear that's not what
Speaker 4: he wanted for me in my life. He made it
Speaker 4: very very clear that I had a better chance of
Speaker 4: making it to where I need to go because I
Speaker 4: had his support. And I got two older brothers, Jabari
Speaker 4: Henley Michael Henley than my older brothers, and they live
Speaker 4: a different life than me.
Speaker 6: You feel me.
Speaker 4: The route what people would assume I would have taken,
Speaker 4: they lived right, and they and they made those choices.
Speaker 4: And that was because of the absence of my father
Speaker 4: at the time, you feel me. He wasn't there for
Speaker 4: them as much as he was for me. I got
Speaker 4: my dad fresh outs about four years old, and so
Speaker 4: he told me like, straight up, you ain't got no option, bro.
Speaker 4: I'm here and make sure we're gonna make sure we
Speaker 4: get this done and done the right way. And obviously
Speaker 4: you get to you get to an age where you
Speaker 4: do have to make the decisions, you know, because he's
Speaker 4: not he's not holding my hand. So that's why I
Speaker 4: say it was a collaborative, collaborative effort. And then shout
Speaker 4: at my mom Stacey Henley, because she was right there
Speaker 4: and hold down the house that was that was I
Speaker 4: mean one woman that that taught me strength.
Speaker 6: You know, she showed me a lot about what strength is.
Speaker 4: Uh then and especially now, so shouting my mom, like
Speaker 4: I said, Stacey Henley and shout on my posts for
Speaker 4: where I am now.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that you made it positive decision.
Speaker 1: How much do you go back because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of kids that maybe don't think they have a choice,
Speaker 1: that the only choice that they can make is that life.
Speaker 1: But you're living proof, Like I got two older brothers,
Speaker 1: my dad, but I made a decision that life wasn't
Speaker 1: for me. I believe that I had something better in
Speaker 1: store that my life. God had something bigger planing for me.
Speaker 1: He had something bigger playing for you. But you just
Speaker 1: have to make the right decision. That's an hundred percent
Speaker 1: And you say, how do I go back? I'll put
Speaker 1: it in frame of mind for you right now. We
Speaker 1: got back from Brazil and ten am in the morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my brother called me and said, it's a pot wonder
Speaker 1: game and confident. Right now, I'm fresh off the plane,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see them kids.
Speaker 6: Just what it is.
Speaker 4: I was in training camp OTAs I did a football
Speaker 4: cap for him, and I couldn't really go see him
Speaker 4: or be involved in He said, you can't.
Speaker 6: I got a real job, and not a real job,
Speaker 6: I can't go all the time or you know, just anytime.
Speaker 6: And this was opportunity.
Speaker 4: Fresh off the plane, straight from a fourteen hour flight,
Speaker 4: got in the uber, dropped myself off at the facility
Speaker 4: and went to go see the kids. And that's that
Speaker 4: was Yeah, that was just this this Saturday. So I
Speaker 4: was able to go do that, and that's just you
Speaker 4: feel me. When I can, I will, And uh, that's
Speaker 4: just you know, showing love to the kids. Not only
Speaker 4: is it just trying to be a role model, but
Speaker 4: like showing them as an option.
Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't really see this this close of
Speaker 6: an athlete. They didn't even look at me the same noment.
Speaker 4: They look at me like I'm just they you know,
Speaker 4: like Dann Helly, you know that the NFL thing kind
Speaker 4: of wearing off. But I want them to understand that
Speaker 4: this isn't normal. But also I want them to understand
Speaker 4: that it's a tenement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's lie. That's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 2: You guys face the Raiders a week two, Yah in
Speaker 2: the night football?
Speaker 3: You are?
Speaker 2: You are you already looking at tape? You are?
Speaker 1: They got a win, They went on the road to
Speaker 1: New England, got a big win. Gino through for over
Speaker 1: three hundred yards. Uh brock Bonds. We don't know his status.
Speaker 1: That would be somebody possibly you could be matched up with.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: He didn't injure his knee, didn't return to the game.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure coach Arbub's gonna tell you guys, A
Speaker 1: and Bo go say, look, we're gonna we're gonna practice
Speaker 1: and prepare it. If he's playing, and if he doesn't
Speaker 1: pair play, we'll make an adjustment. But we're not gonna
Speaker 1: get caught what I you know, oh he ain't playing
Speaker 1: and all sud he show up and we don't have
Speaker 1: the proper of the technique and to play in and
Speaker 1: play for it.
Speaker 4: Now you definitely understand, you know how I go, You
Speaker 4: know I go. We locked in today, we're straight, We
Speaker 4: wipe wipe.
Speaker 2: Want to know, you know.
Speaker 4: Now we're trying to get that to a though mindset
Speaker 4: going in and obviously that's always and every every day
Speaker 4: we move and trying to get forward, you feel me.
Speaker 4: So we's definitely on to the next team. We got
Speaker 4: one heck of a coaching staff over there in p
Speaker 4: We know what he about. Shout out my DUIs coordinator
Speaker 4: Jesse minched today he was just talking about it. This
Speaker 4: is a team that are exactly where we were last year.
Speaker 4: New coach, not only a new coach, but a proving
Speaker 4: coach that knows how to win. And then with the
Speaker 4: staff that they feel that they are being able to
Speaker 4: curate and rejuvenate. So we we see the competition and
Speaker 4: we see the task at hand, and then we know
Speaker 4: what we're going over to do. It's raiders rare. It's
Speaker 4: a natural rivalry going on, and it is you know,
Speaker 4: harball Carol this go back.
Speaker 1: Just go back to college. This go back to Stanford,
Speaker 1: the USC. What's your deal? What's your dealt my coach back.
Speaker 1: I got my coach back.
Speaker 2: That's all I got, my deon.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on with us tonight, man, Thanks for
Speaker 1: giving us a few moments of your time. We really
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Keep up the great work, not only
Speaker 1: on the field, but in the community as well. Tell
Speaker 1: the family I said, hello, and you know what, y'all
Speaker 1: win that division. Come back on and tell us about it.
Speaker 1: You know, you know that's what we're going. We're chasing that.
Speaker 1: My sister told me, tell you she love you, and
Speaker 1: then chack the man rings, Well, tell me what you need,
Speaker 1: tell me what you need.
Speaker 6: I just I just want.
Speaker 3: I just want. I just want my power. I want drift.
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 6: I want you to watch me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm given. I've been
Speaker 3: watching you since christy'all.
Speaker 6: I know you nothing given man, nothing given.
Speaker 3: I'll earn it.
Speaker 6: I ain't got no, I ain't got no problem with
Speaker 6: earning minds. I'm just I just probably get to status
Speaker 6: to you.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I gotta say, I got y'all. Well, one
Speaker 3: one question. I don't mean to be agree, but my
Speaker 3: grandma always told me a closed mouth, don't get fair.
Speaker 3: But if I do make my way to l A, okay,
Speaker 3: if I can get just one one ticket?
Speaker 2: Hey man, what you need?
Speaker 3: What you need it just one? I traveled over that
Speaker 3: I got a ticket.
Speaker 6: I gotta judge both of y'all. Y'all, Hey man, y'all,
Speaker 6: my old g's number.
Speaker 3: We talk about where you talk about him?
Speaker 2: Talk abouthim.
Speaker 3: We talked about me.
Speaker 2: He leaves me behind. Man, he don't take me nowhere?
Speaker 2: Got you old? I can't keep up?
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, yeah, you know I try. I traveled with me,
Speaker 3: me and me and my baby.
Speaker 2: No, me and my girl. You know, man, I got you.
Speaker 6: I got nothing nothing. You're trying to come to sideline.
Speaker 6: We get the passes.
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't want to stay on the sideline the
Speaker 3: whole game.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: I only just became captain. Okay, okay, it's it's on
Speaker 6: my first year out here.
Speaker 2: It's not all about it. What your mad? Damn you
Speaker 2: try to get the man bro a captmanship bot.
Speaker 6: I'm saying like bigna.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Pardon me? You know we go way back, way back.
Speaker 1: I did play I was in the league when Harball played,
Speaker 1: so I did play with I did play with him too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually he was. He was. He was my quarterback
Speaker 2: one year at the Pro Bowl when he was at Indy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am, I am. You can be coaching somebody. Oh no,
Speaker 2: I ain't got no pace to do that. Now.
Speaker 6: I see how you talk about these players. Man, he
Speaker 6: probably probably You're probably right.
Speaker 2: You know, I ain't gonna even hold you on that one.
Speaker 2: When you're right, you ain't wrong.
Speaker 6: Respect my dog ten man, Respect him.
Speaker 2: Man, he that.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're that level of talent, you know,
Speaker 1: you get judged by postseason much differently.
Speaker 4: Hey, he ain't got much to say to y'all, So
Speaker 4: I said for him, and that's okay. Watching that's gonna
Speaker 4: be just watch what he do. We best believed because
Speaker 4: you know, now you what's going on at Quinny.
Speaker 2: You already know what.
Speaker 3: Come on, now, hey, come on.
Speaker 7: Hey, there you go, come on, now, there you go.
Speaker 7: You see how you treat I guess you doing. Man,
Speaker 7: What are you turn into? What are you turning this into?
Speaker 7: You're trying to bake me, You're trying to raise baby.
Speaker 4: Life, respect, respect to every opponent the country, respect to
Speaker 4: every opponent, Bronco Country ways up.
Speaker 3: Now come on, Hey see that's why, that's why I
Speaker 3: told you just get me tickets, dude. I mean, hey,
Speaker 3: I ain't here.
Speaker 2: For life. That's what we own.
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, I respect it.
Speaker 2: Gray appreciate you. Bro.
Speaker 1: Gets the rest. Good luck this weekend, Stay healthy, and
Speaker 1: we'll see you down the road. I appreciate you having
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen.