WEBVTT - Free The Sandwich! 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.840 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty Armstrong and 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:24.759 Getty and he Armstrong and Eddy. I don't know that 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.400 that happened, And Pete said he did not want that. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.600 He didn't even know what people were talking about. So 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.680 we'll look at we'll look into it. But no, I 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.839 wouldn't have wanted that, not a second strike. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:39.360 So that's a story that's burbled up over the last 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.440 couple of days of So when we blasted I think 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.000 it was the first drug boat we blasted. After we 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.960 blasted it, there were a couple of people clinging to 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:52.400 the boat, and then, according to The Washington Post, Pete 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:57.080 Hegzeth ordered those two people to be blasted again, which 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.240 would be a violation of all that is good and decent. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.120 Here is a report on NBC about that. Then we'll discuss. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:08.240 The Washington Post, citing two sources with direct knowledge, reports 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.440 defend Secretary Pete Hegseth issued a verbal directive to target 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.160 a boat suspected of ferrying drugs, with one source saying 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.479 the order was to quote kill everybody. But the Post 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.800 reports when it was discovered two people on board had 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.720 survived the strike. A Special Operations commander ordered a double tap, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.760 a second strike that killed the survivors, one source telling 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.280 the Post the follow on strike was to clear the 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.160 debris of the wreckage for other boats, not to kill 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:37.959 the survivors. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.040 Now, these are anonymous sources from the Washington Post. They're 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.600 the original reporting on this. Nobody has confirmed those reports 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.360 that I'm aware of. Yet every story I saw about 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.040 this today NBC, whoever I was watching that, I'll say, 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:56.280 we have not individually confirmed these reports from the Washington Post. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.320 Pete Heggzath says that is not what happened. That was 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.440 news to him. Trump says, if it did happen that way, 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.720 I would not have wanted it, which is interesting, But 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:06.279 I'm sorry. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.360 Who said was that Pentagon sources who said the second 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.120 strike was to clear debris, So that was acknowledging a 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:14.520 second strike occurred. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:15.400 Okay. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.639 So the only question then remaining is were their survivors 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.160 clinging to that wreckage and did the US military know 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:27.120 it before they fired the kill shots of people who 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.000 are obviously no military threat. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.600 The thing that is a war crime, and the crime 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.119 is murder. The thing I really don't know. That needs 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.400 to be nailed down. I haven't everybody talk about it? 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.200 How much? How many people are involved in this communication 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:45.960 between Pete and whoever? You know, how many people are 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.840 down the line from Pete to somebody else, to somebody 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.720 else to somebody else who actually pulls the trigger on 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.959 the aerial shot from the drone? I mean, I don't. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.920 I don't know how many people are involved there. And 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.240 then there is there any record of that communication they 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.600 record that is it a verbal I don't. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.600 Know any of any questions all. Yeah, the Free press 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.920 is writing about it. According to the post mission, Commander 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:14.080 Admiral Frank Mitchell, Bradley ordered the second strike specifically to 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:19.440 kill the two survivors, so he he would certainly be 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.160 guilty of the war crime, and depending how to direct 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.760 the order was from Pete, hegseeth he might. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:31.880 Be as well, I guess, you know, allegedly. And then. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.680 It's worth pointing out we have Republicans joining in the Hey, 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.560 we've got to figure out what happened here. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.960 Cry It's not just you know the usual suspect, right. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.160 You only open an investigation in the House of Representatives 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.440 if the majority of party wants it, and they've opened 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.080 investigations and a couple of different committees in the House 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.080 of Representatives because the Republican committee chairs have said, yeah, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.760 we want to look into this. Also a Senate committee 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:03.080 looking into it. And is it just a coincidence that 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.280 the week before this story broke the Republican the Democrats 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.120 put out that video of you do not have to 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.280 follow illegal orders, You do not have to follow illegal 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.480 orders and that whole dust up. Is it just a 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.360 coincidence that that happened right before this information came out. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.160 That would be a hell of a coincidence. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.479 Sure seems like it because this attack allegedly happened on 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.599 September the second, So yeah, you absolutely could believe that 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:32.360 there were leaks and people were hearing Oh, this was 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.200 a clear war crime in the blasting the drug boats 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.039 the thing, and that's why they put out that video. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.520 It makes more sense now. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.640 Right because it kind of seemed like it came out 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:52.320 of nowhere. Although would they be after this what is it? 0:04:52.360 --> 0:05:00.000 Admiral whoever? Yeah, of a Bradley. You know, I'm pretty 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.160 cynical about our politics today. I'm not sure how many 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.840 of these Democrats who are making a big deal out 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.080 of this, are actually concerned about these Venezuelans clinging to 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.239 the boat versus they want a scalp in the Trump 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:18.800 administration to damage the Trump administration, which is more important 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:23.320 to them. So I feel like some admirable, no admirable, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.440 I did it. Yeah, I feel like I feel like some 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.919 admiral whose name nobody had ever heard before would be 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.200 enough for them to feel like they got a victory. Yeah. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.160 I don't disagree with anything you said, but I don't 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.000 think it's appropriate to look at this story through the 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.960 lens of what is the motivation of Democrats, whether it 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.240 is holy or unholy? If a war crime was committed, 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.480 we got to get to the bottom of it. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.080 Yeah, I guess I was assuming that it didn't happen 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.120 the way it's being portrayed in the Washington Post, and 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:58.960 we don't know that. Yeah, I don't know. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.000 No idea the fact that were you going to play 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:03.760 our two Congress fellas? 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.000 I wasn't, But we can. Let's do it. Sixty three 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:06.880 and four back to back. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:11.240 Mike Turner and Don Bacon, both Armed Services Committee guys 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.800 or House Intelligence Committee guys, both Republicans. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.320 Congress does not have information that that had occurred. Both 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.760 the chairman of the Center Armed Services Committee, Chairman of 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.400 the House Armed Services Committee, and ranking members have opened investigations. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.440 Obviously, if that occurred, that. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.400 Would be very serious, and I agree that that would 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.040 would be an illegal act. 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.080 If the facts go to where the Washington Post article 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.440 takes it, well, then. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:37.880 We'll have to go from there. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.159 But if it was as if the article said, that 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:42.359 is a violation of. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:42.960 The law of war. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.640 But people want a survivory, don't kill them, and they 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.600 have to pose an eminent threat. It's hard to believe 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.360 that two people on our raft trying to survive would 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.440 pose an eminent thrut. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.400 I would just like to have somebody point out that 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.480 if it turns out this didn't happen, how about a 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.960 little pressure on the Washington Post and not put out 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.480 this sort of crap because that happens a lot too. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.760 Where you get these stories with anonymous sources. They become 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.640 a big deal for a couple of twenty four hour 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.640 news cycles. Then they kind of drizzle away and nobody 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:15.320 ever gets packed. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.840 Straight years during the Russia collusion hoax, please hat them shift, 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:19.720 you scum back. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.560 No kidding, And then never nobody ever circles back to say, hey, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.920 that stuff that didn't turn out to be true. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:29.360 That's not cool, right, right, just take down the Washington Post. Sorry, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.600 Jeff Bezos. I know you wasted a lot of money 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.520 on it, but I'm sorry. We're shutting it down. Yeah, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.480 we'll just have to wait for the facts to come out. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.600 It's troubling. We need to be. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.280 Better than the worst people on earth as a country. Well, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.040 it's getting it pretty hard to imagine either Pete or 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:49.880 the guy underneath him thinking that was okay, yeah, yeah 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.680 it is. I mean that would be extraordinary. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.560 I mean if Pete said something to the effect to 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.200 kill them all, which I think is in the Washington 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:03.440 Post story. I can't remember the phrase exactly, and this 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:08.320 guy interpreted that to kill hopeless, helpless survivors, Yeah, that 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.080 would be an enormous error in judgment, the sort of 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.040 which results in, you know, prosecutions. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:15.840 Uh. 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:21.160 The commander overseeing the operation from Fort Bragg in North Carolina, 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.720 this Admiral Bradley, told people on this secure conference call, 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.360 according to Washington Post, that the survivors were still legitimate 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.040 targets because they could theoretically call other traffickers to retrieve 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.240 them and their cargo. According to two people, he ordered 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.360 the second strike to fulfill Hexeth's directive that everyone must 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:39.960 be killed. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.160 So, I don't know anything about this. So if you're 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.320 in that line of work, you're the sort of person 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.360 that pulls the trigger on the drone to blast these 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.600 people in the boat. Are you taught all of this 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.360 and some sort of training or are you just supposed 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.640 to know it from watching movies? Are I don't know that. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.600 Would you have been taught. Now if you hit the 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.440 boat and there are survivors, they're no longer a threat, 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.560 so it would be illegal to kill them. Are you 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.080 actually taught that? I would hope so, but maybe maybe 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.200 are Maybe aren't. I don't know if you know anything 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.199 about this, Like you served in the military and you 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.480 got that sort of training. Let us know on the 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:20.560 text line or the email. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.040 Yeah, I'm looking to see if we have any decisive, 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:34.800 knowledgeable emails. No, just a bunch of dopey comments online. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.120 Well, this is a Grade A scandal. If it can 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.319 be substantiated in any way, it would drive Hegzeth out 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:50.280 of his job and perhaps have some sort of trial 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:50.800 or something. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.959 I don't know, here's a Trump loyalist says, Joe, you're 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.280 missing a possibility. Maybe the Dems made that illegal order 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.439 video because they were going to play and to a 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.640 false story about Hegzathy. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.880 See that's yeah, that's a stretch. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.959 And this from Robert So the WAHPO reports something quoting 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.920 anonymous sources. Why is that given any credibility at all, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:22.440 given the history of the WAPPO with fabricating things. The 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.200 dude was just put in place. That would be the 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.400 admiral on August first Navy seal. I'm guessing he knows 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.679 the law and is not afraid of the Secretary of Defense. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.200 This is an entire argument against a straw man to 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.600 put and keep it in the news unless there's proof 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.839 this order exists or something happened illegal. It's just people 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.240 trying to whip up news. Yeah, you know what, And 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.840 he says our media is so broken. I would agree 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.120 with you, and both Don Bacon and Mike Turner said, 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.800 if this is true, it's a serious deal. But all right, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.640 now we're in the let's let the facts come out 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.000 part of the process. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:00.120 I'm kind of interested. I often like what Barry McCaffrey says, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.360 retired general. He's usually on NBC. Can we are sixty seven? 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:04.720 I'd just like to hear his stake on this. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.400 The easy question is whether or not we are allowed 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.600 to use LESO force against people clinging the wreckage. They 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.920 have submitted there's no threat to the US military forces. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.120 That seems to me. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.400 It needs to be investigated, need to be confirmed. It 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.200 seemed to be clearly an illegal order in a war crime. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:30.640 And this admiral should have, when he got allegedly got 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.920 this verbal order from the Secretary of Defense, should have 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.640 put it in writing, said we will not comply and 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.319 explained why. So that one straightforward, it's no different than 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:45.840 a Nazi submarine machine gunning survivors in the water of 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.880 a sunken ship in World War Two. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.680 For which they were prosecuted at the Nuremberg trials and. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.319 Executed man And so how fast does this stuff happened? Too? 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.200 So the first shot on the boat went How much 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.040 time was there but between the first strike and the 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.120 second strike, probably not a lot, I'm guessing. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.040 Yeah, the Wallpole count Is took a while for the 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.520 smoke tick clear, and that booty was surprised to see 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:17.640 survivors and the order was given hit him again. But again, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.640 at this point, I feel like the entire question is, Okay, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.160 did that stuff actually happen in the way it was described? 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.520 If so, okay, then the process begins. If not, let's 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.040 move on with our lives after kicking the hell out 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.400 of the wallpole for false stories. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.920 Again, there needs to be better reporting on how this 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.360 whole thing works, and I'm surprised that's not included. That's 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.360 one of the reasons that makes me very skeptical about this, 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.400 because if I'm the reporter receiving this information from some 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.439 anonymous source, I'm asking, Okay, how does the chain of 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.720 command work here? Pete talks to who, who talks to who? 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.439 Who actually fires the rocket or the missile? Is all 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.360 of this videotaped? We've seen the video of the original 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.400 strikes on a lot of these boats. Are all of 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.880 them videotapes? So are you claiming there is a videotape 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.360 of this out there? Also? I would ask those questions 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.480 if I as the reporter receiving this information and include that 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:12.280 in my report and say videotape exists of this, for instance, 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.679 because that would be a big deal. It's very easy 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.280 to get to the bottom of then whichever committee just 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.160 needs to say, Okay, we need to see a videotape, like 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:27.839 by noon today. I'm not always surprised at how long 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.240 it takes to answer these questions. Seems like they should 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:31.559 be answerable, like in an hour. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.800 Yeah, of course, but everybody lawyer's up and drags their 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.040 feet as much as possible. I mean, you can have 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.600 the most legitimate request in the world for information from 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.840 the government, and it's just it's. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.160 Like, you know, I don't know mining for rare earth minerals. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.440 Do you have Republican committees in theory trying to protect 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.640 a Republican administration and a Republican sect deaf and all that. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.400 I would think they'd all want to Yeah, let's get 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.840 the video out. This is what happened, unless something bad happened. Yeah, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:03.319 interesting thoughts Texas please four one, two, nine, five KFTC. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.360 I might want to get super involved in the AI 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.880 argument because it might be the most important thing that's 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.760 ever happened in the history of the world. Want to 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.880 talk about that coming up next segment. Became aware of this. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:22.080 New book, A Kinder Gentler Feminism that well, the title 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:27.480 is actually the Dignity of Dependence, a feminist manifesto that 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.520 Caleb Bart reviewed super interesting. We don't really have time 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.920 to get into it now, but the author, who's a woman, uh, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:39.800 talks about, you know, feminism got way off track, but 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.800 it got off track when it began to deny women's 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:47.000 essential differences from men. She observes with great acuity, depth, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.240 and wisdom that much of feminism today seeks to make 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.800 women more like men in so far as they are 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.800 autonomous and impenetrable blah blah blah, and and just that 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.520 that's a very perverse way to look at empowering women. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.880 There's no make them into There's no doubt that that's true. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.360 Though a lot of modern feminism is just if you're 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:10.120 anything that's not being like a woman is wrong. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:10.840 it's just crazy. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.120 And then that reminded me of something else i'd seen, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.560 and I'd mentioned earlier in the show that in the 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.440 midst of my holiday revelry and a lovely time with 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.360 my family, I made the mistake of clicking on an 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.320 article in The New York Post, which was just a 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:28.000 perfect example of Internet snipy bitterness, superiority trolling. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.720 The rest of it here's another good one. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.160 This is a Vice article that came out a couple 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:34.840 of months ago, but now it's gone viral. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.760 It's about man keeping. I will quote. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.480 Mankeeping describes the emotional labor women end up doing in 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:46.080 heterosexual relationships. It goes beyond remembering birthdays or coordinating social plans. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.720 It means being your partner's one person support system, managing 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.760 his stress, interpreting his moods, holding his hand through feelings. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:57.120 He won't share with anyone else, all of it unpaid, unacknowledged, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:58.920 and often unreciprocated. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.120 What are we talking about, well man keeping? 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.960 And as Nelly Bowles writes, hmm, when I was young, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.800 it was called loving someone. Matter woman, you do a 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.000 lot of that stuff for your partner, But now we 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.760 call it man keeping and we hate it. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:18.160 Oh do we hate it? Holding his hand ew through feelings. Eh, 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:22.280 he won't share with anyone but you. Ooh. And it's unpaid. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.640 This is worse than an internship. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.400 Took the words right out of my mouth. That's that's 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:28.080 called love? 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.560 What that is a viral whatever that means? Article on 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.000 the internet that's really making the rounds. Young women can say, 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.520 I don't need that this. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:42.400 Man keeping good grief. Unplug the effing Internet. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.160 I'm gonna miss buying stuff online, but I'll schlep to 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.000 the store. I'll write letters, I'll call people on the telephone. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:51.760 Unplug the Internet. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.640 Well, it's too late to unplug the Internet. Is it 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.640 too late to unplug the a dot? The idea of 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:02.040 AI taking over the world and destroying mankind? And probably 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.760 isn't too late. But we'd all have to rally together, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.679 which I might be interested in trying to start? What 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:13.159 do I need? A sledgehammer, a fro bar and a gasoline? 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.320 What do I tell me? 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.679 And I'll bring up day tune, Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.400 Retailers are hoping to add a new spin to their 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:25.320 sales events, leaning into artificial intelligence. In the weeks leading 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.280 up to peak holiday spending, chat GBT maker open Ai 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.520 partnered with Walmart and Target. Over half of shoppers set 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.280 in a recent survey they plan to use AI this year. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.000 This year, Amazon's offering its own chatbot called Rufus, where 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.159 you can take a screenshot of a shopping list and 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.560 automatically add those items to your card. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:48.359 Oh, how exciting is that? That's not that great? All 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.359 the discussions we're having around AI are missing the main 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:58.400 topic which should be discussed probably constantly and maybe maybe 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.639 the number one political topic in America, if not the 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:07.160 top couple. As it's been pointed out by a number 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.280 of the people I've been watching and listening to and 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.640 reading over the last several weeks about AI. These chatbots 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:19.560 were all using They're like a web page as opposed 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.760 to the Internet. It's got nothing to do with what 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.840 AI is going to become or the impact it's going 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:27.920 to have on the world. The fact that chat GPT 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.440 is a cooler Google, you know that sort of thing, 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.399 and it's kind of misleading people into thinking as to 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.560 what AI actually is. So I've been on this kick 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.000 for quite a while. If you listen you know, the 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.000 big into AI and read about it and listen to it, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.119 let's podcast about it and everything like that. The book 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.560 that came out fairly recently I mentioned Before the Break 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:50.399 by Ellie Ykowski, which has gotten a lot of attention 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:55.199 in AI circles. It's called if Anyone builds It, Everyone Dies. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.920 He was the one of the biggest proponents of AI 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:04.680 over the last several decades, one of your leading cheerleaders 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.679 for AI. If you ever read anything or watched a 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:11.280 show or anything like that, or any network television show 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.359 Oprah in the afternoon, whatever, and somebody was talking about AI, 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.480 it was probably him up until recently when he decided, no, 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.160 this is we can't control this. Superintelligence is absolutely going 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.080 to happen. We're creating a beast significantly smarter than us. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.840 How do we think that's possibly going to turn out 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.639 to our benefit? We need to stop it immediately. And 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.439 he wrote this book. If anyone builds it, everyone dies, 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.200 and he's trying to get a whole bunch of people 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.320 on board to do something about this. Elon said the 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:43.159 other day he thinks there's a ten to twenty percent 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:49.240 chance that AI destroys mankind. Why in the hell would 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.639 you build anything that there's even a ten percent chance 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:58.320 that destroys all mankind? It seems crazy, that is. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.120 I mean, the answer is so so clear and so unimplementable. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.600 At the point that it gets real good at curing cancer, 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:10.320 for instance, we all love it and then stop right, 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:11.560 but it's unimplementable. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:13.199 I was watching it. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.199 I mean, for the obvious reasons, we don't have the 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:16.800 cooperation of everyone on Earth. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:21.000 I was watching a I'm gonna start wearing t shirts 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:26.520 from the doom people because I'm one of them. I'm 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:31.280 a doomer definitely that believes that it's all going to 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:36.040 go to hell. Doom Debates is a website. I've been 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.320 watching a lot. Practically everybody involved in this arguments within 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.560 sixty miles of this radio studio, and I wish we 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.560 could get some of them on the air, the Doom Debates, 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.399 where they have some of the leading people on to 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.240 discuss various sides of it. I was watching a doom 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.480 debate between this guy, Max Tegmark, who I've mentioned a lot. 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:53.920 I've read a couple of his books, Life three point 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.240 zero and bunch of different stuff. He's an MIT scientist 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.320 with this other guy who's one of your leading AI researchers, 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.960 who thinks you know hit And the main pro argument 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.080 from this dude is there's just no regulating it anyway. 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:08.680 I mean, how the hell are you going to regulate it? 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.280 Which he might be right about, but tech Mark and 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:13.440 a lot of others, and this is what I might 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.440 want to get involved with personally. They're trying to get 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:22.960 people's attention and maybe have marches or something to try 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.639 to alert the government. We need to come up with 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.960 a plan. We're just screaming one thousand miles an hour 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:36.360 toward developing a beast or whatever you want to call 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:40.440 it that is absolutely going to doom humanity and nobody's 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.680 putting any brakes on it. What the freaking hell are 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:44.359 we doing? 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:49.280 Yeah, twice already you've used the word something, And I'm 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.480 not saying that we shouldn't be trying to get people's 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.720 attention so that they're willing to do something. Then the 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.360 obvious next step is what thing. 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.680 Welle Mark, tech Mark other people's argument, And he's been 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:03.760 he's been trying to lobby Congress, but there's just not 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.040 enough public knowledge out there will to really have any 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.760