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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is now Sunday night, July twelfth, the year of

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Speaker 2: Our Lord twenty twenty. We actually do, for the first

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Speaker 2: time on this show in a while, have updates, substantive

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Speaker 2: updates on the status of the college football season twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: So we are going to talk about that, including a

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Speaker 2: heavily detailed reaction to Brandonmarcelo's piece on twenty four seven

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Speaker 2: sports dot Com yesterday today. A lot of you have

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Speaker 2: read that already because you've commented on it to me,

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Speaker 2: and that is how the conference only game structure, even

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Speaker 2: though it's not ideal, could easily provide the best path

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Speaker 2: to what would look like a somewhat normal season and

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Speaker 2: to provide the path to a season period. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk a whole lot about that tonight. I'm

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Speaker 2: also going to do what we were going to do

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Speaker 2: Thursday before it kind of got sidetracked, and that is

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten fan Base mood Tracker. We did the

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Speaker 2: SEC both divisions. We're going to do the Big Ten tonight,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to answer a question about best defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator currently in the SEC and also address some less

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Speaker 2: than kind remarks from a certain notable figure at a

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Speaker 2: four letter network towards our.

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Speaker 1: Friends at Notre Dame. Everyone always wants to pick on

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, so we'll get to all that. We're really

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Speaker 1: happy to have you with us if you.

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Speaker 2: and we appreciate five star reviews. Let's get into this

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Speaker 2: an actual update on the college football season. We are

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Speaker 2: a little bit different in the way that we've approached this.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of you have noticed that by

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Speaker 2: now we have not talked about COVID nineteen hardly at all.

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Speaker 2: We have not talked about the status of the season

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Speaker 2: hardly at all. And it's not so much because we've

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Speaker 2: been ignoring it. It's because there hasn't really been a

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Speaker 2: whole lot new to talk about. And what we could

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Speaker 2: have done is we could have led every show with

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Speaker 1: We could have.

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Speaker 2: Tried to build the brand off of COVID nineteen, and

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Speaker 2: to be honest, we probably could have gotten more views

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Speaker 2: variety in nature. But that's not what we're trying to

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Speaker 2: do long term with this, and so we've only mentioned

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Speaker 2: why we led the show with it Thursday, and which

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Speaker 2: again now, because there is something to talk about. The

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Speaker 2: Big Ten quickly. Everyone knows this. I don't need to

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Speaker 2: go conference games only. It wasn't surprising that the decision

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Speaker 2: was made. It was surprising to a lot of people

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Speaker 2: when the decision was made, and by a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean me, nor do I mean you, respectively,

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Speaker 2: although we may be included in that. I mean conference commissioners,

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Speaker 2: university presidents, TV executives, et cetera, et cetera. So the

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Speaker 2: next logical question is will others follow suit down in

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Speaker 1: It's will the SEC follow suit?

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Speaker 2: see it there still on the front page as of like.

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Speaker 1: An hour ago. And that is a really good feature,

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Speaker 2: Depth feature by Brandon Marcelo today, who has done the

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Speaker 2: best reporting in the industry on this entire subject. In

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Speaker 2: my humble opinion, not biased at all, but he's done

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Speaker 2: list of reasons why going the conference only route, the

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Speaker 1: The best path to having a college football season.

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Speaker 2: And so he lays out basically what we know separates

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Speaker 2: different formats that you could go down. Let's just you

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Speaker 2: so much more beneficial for people, and by people, I

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Speaker 2: first thing it does is, obviously it gives you total

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Speaker 2: I go conference games only. I mean, I could do

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Speaker 2: Wednesdays if I want to. I can negotiate my own

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Speaker 2: restructured television deal with ESPN, with Fox Sports, with CBS Sports,

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Speaker 2: where hey, we get together, Greg Sank and John Swafford,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna work Notre Dame in there. Probably somehow more

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Speaker 1: Let's work something out here. Could you do that? Yes

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Speaker 2: But the popular talking point to dissent against that possibility is, well,

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Speaker 2: no one's worked in conjunction.

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Speaker 1: Both things can be true.

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Speaker 2: It could be true that this has been a cluster

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Speaker 2: morning and you're looking at headlines saying SEC and ACC

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Speaker 2: that out of conference format will feature one out of

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Speaker 2: just putting it on the table. The other benefits here

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Speaker 2: He really lays out what has to happen and what

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Speaker 2: And I thought he brought up a lot of interesting dates.

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Speaker 2: One in particular caught my eye because if you'll remember,

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Speaker 2: And we just for fun said what's the latest you

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Speaker 1: And so some of you will remember this.

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Speaker 2: My theory had all the conferences pushing their conference championship

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Speaker 2: Marcello's writing and he's not just speculating or guessing here.

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Speaker 2: This is feedback he's gotten from some pretty dialed in folks.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about the minimum.

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Speaker 1: But what's the minimum to have a season? What's the minimum?

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Speaker 2: And he's talking about us maybe a format where you're playing,

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Speaker 2: in October and November this year. That's very important for

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Speaker 2: you to track your paycheck too. So what could happen there? Well,

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Speaker 2: was talking on THEBAMA online dot com message board a

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Speaker 2: three but then all of a sudden, you take away

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know that it's a foregone conclusion they

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Speaker 1: That's the point.

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Speaker 2: If you go conference game only, it allows you a

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Speaker 1: But I would just remember this.

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Speaker 2: I would remember that those, as he points out, those

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Speaker 2: Those conference TV contracts period are worth a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: The playoff is worth a lot of money. One of

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Speaker 2: the other hang ups that I've seen here, including on

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Speaker 2: I don't get the sense Penn State's gonna be one

436
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 2: of those programs that has this one spike year and

437
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: then you're looking back fifteen years from now at the

438
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: tenure of James Franklin and it's good, decent, really good,

439
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: had one great year and then quickly dropped back off.

440
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: If they get the right quarterback in there, they get

441
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: offense figured out, and they get the right quarterback in there,

442
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: they're gonna be good, and they're gonna be there and

443
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to sustain it. That's what I believe,

444
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: That's what they believe, and that's why you just keep

445
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: swinging for that pinata. If you've ever tried to jump

446
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: a car, you know, you turn the key and you

447
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: think you have the cables on there right, but it

448
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 2: doesn't turn over, and so then you change one little thing,

449
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 2: and all right, try it again, Nope, try it one

450
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: more time, will go out one, try it one more time,

451
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: and you just keep trying, and you keep trying, and

452
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: you keep trying, and finally, when that engine turns over,

453
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: you don't really care how many false tries you had.

454
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: You got it to work. When that pinata bust open,

455
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: you don't really care that you had to swing seven

456
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: times in order to get it. No one cares. Everyone's

457
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: eating candy, everyone's on his sugar rush at that point,

458
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: and no one really cares how many swings you had

459
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: to take. Now asked for Wisconsin, the Wisconsin attitude to

460
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: me is kind of like the Georgia attitude that we

461
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: talked about with the SEC East. And I said, with Georgia,

462
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: there is a public mood that they'll show you, and

463
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 2: then there is the private mood that they have that

464
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: they mainly only talk.

465
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: About amongst themselves.

466
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: The public mood, as I see it for Wisconsin is

467
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: they're very proud, have a lot to be proud about.

468
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 2: This has been a very solid program, and they've been

469
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: solid for a long time. However, I also think that

470
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: there is a sizable portion of the Wisconsin fanbase who

471
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: isn't secretly upset, but they are curious.

472
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: And what they're curious about is the what if.

473
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: What if is what if we took it to the

474
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: next level at let's say, the quarterback position. You know,

475
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: a lot of folks in Wisconsin know that there's been

476
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: this curiosity even at the quarterback position. The guy that

477
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: we affectionately referred to as Jack Done former wrestling official

478
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: in real life, Jack Cone, he's been there for a

479
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: long time. He could be getting AARP mail at this point.

480
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: But we've got Graham Mertz over here, and we pretty should.

481
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: We know what our ceiling is with Jack Cohene. But

482
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: there's the what if. Because you're happy with what the

483
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: program is. It's solid, it's very respectable. But are you

484
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: going to the playoff with it? Probably not. There's probably

485
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: a ceiling that's a little bit lower, and you know,

486
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: you take more of a risk if you change what's

487
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: worked offensively for you since forever.

488
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: But is the risk worth it? And that's the what.

489
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: If that's in the mind of a lot of Wisconsin

490
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: fans right now. And what if we were right, What

491
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: if our curiosity was founded and we all of a

492
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: sudden raised that ceiling a little bit, and people went

493
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: from thinking that the winner over in that division with

494
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State. People went from thinking that

495
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: the winner would have a little hurdle to clear in Indiapolis.

496
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: But Indianapolis. But I mean, really, what's it gonna be.

497
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Wisconsin. It'll be a nice one, but

498
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: it'll be a win. Nonetheless, what if all of a

499
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: sudden it went to hey, they still got to come

500
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: through Wisconsin in the Big Ten championship game. That's kind

501
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: of to me the status of the typical mood in Wisconsin.

502
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: And I wrap up with Nebraska. And I wrap up

503
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: with Nebraska. I've been reading a lot about Nebraska. I've

504
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: been talking a lot, not on the show. I've been

505
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: talking a lot some on the podcast, the Lake Kick

506
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: Extra podcast, and some just privately about Nebraska over about

507
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: the last week to two weeks, because I wanted to

508
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: validate my feeling on Nebraska. What my feeling on Nebraska

509
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: has been is your mood when you read national headlines

510
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: about your program is one of sort of disdain, disgusted,

511
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: not for yourself, not for your program, for the people

512
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: who talk about your program as if they know anything

513
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: about your program because you probably in Lincoln, Nebraska, look

514
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: at someone who works in Bristol, Connecticut, or New York

515
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: or LA and you, rightfully, I'm not saying you're wrong,

516
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: you probably right look at them and think, don't really

517
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: care what your headline says, don't.

518
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: Really care what this graph or that graph says.

519
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: It's cool if someone's going to criticize us, will criticize us,

520
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: because we actually know what to criticize.

521
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: You don't.

522
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: You fly over us a few times a year, but

523
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: you don't really have the slightest clue what's going on

524
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: down here? Do you even know that Tom Osborne is

525
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: no longer the head coach? Do you even have the

526
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 2: slightest clue what's going on? That's the mood. But then

527
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: when you remove all that, you know, the animosity towards outsiders,

528
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: and then you're talking about yourselves inside.

529
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: What's the mood there? And the mood there?

530
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: I have found to be pretty patient, in fact, refreshingly patient.

531
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: Scott Frost came in, and Scott Frost, I don't know

532
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 2: what concept people had of what he had done at

533
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: Central Florida. What he did at Central Florida was great,

534
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: but it was that it was the snap of a finger.

535
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: It was like overnight it happened. He wasn't there seven years, guys.

536
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: And so he comes into Nebraska, and you know what

537
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: outsiders thought. And then, as our outsiders typically do, outsiders

538
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: set the expectation. And then last year, especially, you saw

539
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: the preview magazines Nebraska Everyone's dark horse in Nebraska, this,

540
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Nebraska that, And I've told you I had I didn't

541
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: have first hand correspondence, but I talked to people who,

542
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: you know, were at high schools that Nebraska had been recruiting,

543
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: and you know, Nebraska's folks, they weren't all that thrilled

544
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: about all these elevated expectations nationally because they knew they

545
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: had work to do. And you guys in the Nebraska

546
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: fan base, you knew, if you're close to that program,

547
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: the kind of mess that they inherited. And you just

548
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: got to hit the reset button on a lot of stuff.

549
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: The old torch the bar and kill the rats and

550
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: start completely over from the ground up, the old gu rebuild.

551
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: It's not fun to talk about, but it's necessary.

552
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: And so a lot of Nebraska folks the mood is, however,

553
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: many games we play this year let's just find tangible

554
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: signs of progress. Let's hopefully stay healthy at the quarterback position.

555
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: But twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty two, those are

556
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: the years where we really start to learn a lot

557
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: more about Scott Frost and we really start to learn

558
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: more about who we will be over the next ten years.

559
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: That's the mood all across the Big ten.

560
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: That's the mood. Now.

561
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: As sure as I wrap this up, a lot of

562
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: you in East Lansing, for example, you're saying, what about

563
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: Michigan State?

564
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: And I ask you really want to talk about Michigan

565
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: State right now? I'd be happy to do it. I'd

566
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: be happy to do it.

567
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: Just know I'll be honest about it, and just know

568
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: if you do want to hear it, Just like our.

569
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: SEC folks did last week.

570
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: If I didn't get to your program, you just drop

571
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: a comment, You drop a comment, and we will cover

572
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: the teams we didn't cover tonight in the next Late

573
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Kick Extra podcast. That's what that whole thing is for.

574
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's move it on. I have something to

575
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: talk about that probably pertains to every single one of you.

576
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: Every single one of you likely has an opinion on

577
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. And it has nothing to do with their uniforms,

578
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with their mascot. In all likelihood,

579
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with any of their players.

580
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: I look at my inbox, I look at my DMS

581
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: on Twitter, and I would probably say safely, the ratio

582
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: lately has been one out of every five questions pertains

583
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame and whether they should join a conference,

584
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: Especially when we found out that, in all likelihood we're

585
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: moving to a conference game only format for the twenty

586
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: twenty season. The question naturally becomes what about Notre Dame?

587
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: And everyone drools all over themselves and they say, is

588
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: this our shot to screw Notre Dame. So our buddy

589
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: Desmond Howard is on a national network the other day,

590
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: and you guys brought this to my attention. You wanted

591
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: to know what I thought about it, So I have

592
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: bullet points here. I'm not going to read the whole quote,

593
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: but I will warmly and accurately paraphrase what he said.

594
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: Now.

595
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: He admitted his bias outright, and he said Notre Dame's

596
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: always been given a special pass.

597
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: They enjoy that independence.

598
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: Now if everyone plays conference games only and they're left

599
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: out in the cold because of decisions they've made. That's

600
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: their problem. This according to Desmond Howard. I seem to

601
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: remember once upon a generation they tried to get in

602
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: the Big ten, didn't they?

603
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Who was it that block Notre Dame?

604
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: Anyway, I continue, my word's not his quote continues.

605
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: Now, I don't have.

606
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: A problem with a team or school that thought they

607
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: are beyond joining a conference and now, because teams are

608
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: playing within their conference, getting left out in the cold.

609
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: So Desmond Howard is just telling you that you reput

610
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: you saw and if you get left out, then that's

611
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: your fault. Blah blah blah. The last three words those

612
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: are mine, not his. So here's what I've always noticed

613
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: about Notre Dame. I've hinted about this a few times,

614
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: but I don't think I've ever really taken a deep

615
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: dive into it. But what I've always noticed, ever since

616
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: I was young about Notre Dame, growing up way down

617
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: in Georgia, I always noticed that everyone had some pretty

618
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: solid feelings on this one way or the other. But

619
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: I always realized that everyone was focused on what they

620
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: thought about Notre Dame. And I've never now, granted it's understandable.

621
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: I never heard this growing up in Georgia. I never

622
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: really heard anyone taking up the cause for Notre Dame,

623
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: not defending them, taking up the cause, empathizing with their position,

624
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: in other words, putting yourself for more than two seconds

625
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: in the shoes of the Notre Dame athletic director. In

626
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: this case it is mister Schwarburck. And what would you

627
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: do if you were him? Why do they do what

628
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: they do? Why don't they do what you want them

629
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: to do? And here's the camps that I've always found

630
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: forming the camp that you're in if you're not a

631
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame fan and you are of the belief that

632
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: they should just be forced to join a conference, or

633
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: you get left out in the cold any year, much

634
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: less this year. Is you probably think that them being

635
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: in a conference or them being forced to join a

636
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: conference is what is best for college football. Now listen,

637
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: for all you know, I may even be on your

638
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: side in that, But I'm not talking about what you

639
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: think or I think is best for college football. I'm

640
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: talking about what Notre Dame does and what they decide

641
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: to do with themselves, and why they decide to do that,

642
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: and so what I've always asked myself is what if

643
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: I were in charge at Notre Dame. What if I

644
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: were Jack Swarbick, What if I were the athletic director there?

645
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: What if you were the athletic director at Notre Dame.

646
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: You know what the answer is, we do the exact

647
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: same thing he does. We would have our program on

648
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: the same path they're on right now. And why would

649
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: we do that? Well for some very simple reasons, because

650
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: at that point our job would not be about what

651
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: is in the best interest of college football. Our job

652
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Speaker 2: would be what is in the best interest of Notre Dame.

653
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 2: And we would look around and we would say, okay,

654
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: there are some suggestions from the peanut gallery here that

655
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Speaker 2: we join a conference. What is the value proposition there?

656
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: What do they have to offer us? Because currently we

657
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: have our own TV deal, we have full schedule autonomy,

658
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: we have a vote at the table.

659
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Speaker 1: We have access to the College Football Playoff.

660
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 2: I mean, we have the equality of a vote that

661
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: the entire SEC does, the entire ACC does. You don't

662
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: have to like it, but keep in mind, we're role

663
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: playing right now, which is all fun, and we are

664
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Speaker 2: the athletic director at Notre Dame.

665
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: Why would we join a conference. There are two ways,

666
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: as far as I can.

667
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: See it, that this changes, and I've talked about this

668
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: before now I told you the first way that this

669
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: would change would be if there arose a situation where

670
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame was sitting there at the end of the

671
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: year with a very competitive resume, but then their lack

672
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: of being in a conference and their lack of winning

673
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: a conference championship cost them a spot at the table.

674
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Speaker 1: I thought that that I didn't.

675
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: Think it would definitely force action, but that would be

676
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: the closest that you would come to things naturally unfolding

677
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: in a way that it forced their hand.

678
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: They may still not do anything. They may just say, oh, well,

679
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: didn't work out for us, Better luck next year.

680
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: Here's the second way, and this is really where you

681
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: should redirect your ire if you believe it's the best

682
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: interest in college football for them to join a conference.

683
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: The second way would be if the university presidents and

684
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: really conference commissioners at the behest of university presidents in

685
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: some cases.

686
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: In some cases, if.

687
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: They got together and they decided they were going to

688
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: force Notre Dame's hand could do it.

689
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: They could do it now for whatever reason.

690
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: I'll leave that to you to figure out with a

691
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: solid wink of the eye.

692
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, they haven't done that.

693
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: So if you want to be mad at someone and

694
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: you're a Georgia fan, talk to your conference commissioner. You

695
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: want to be mad at someone and you're an Oklahoma fan,

696
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: talk to your conference commissioner. Same across the country, talk

697
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 2: to your conference commissioners. I don't know that you'll get

698
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: a response, but try and talk to them anyway. But

699
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: I've always been fine with it. Now I get to

700
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: my personal opinion on it. I've always been fine with

701
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Notre dame status as an independent. It is not a

702
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: risk free pop proposition. This approach that they take is

703
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: not without risk. And I'll tell you right now, since

704
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: you think I'm probably doing everything short of wearing a

705
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: golden helmet on the set, that's not the case. I

706
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: just understand their plight. I understand their approach and readily

707
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: admit I'd be the same way. If the sport allowed

708
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: me to operate this way, I'd do the exact same

709
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: thing they do.

710
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: But here's what I'm telling you.

711
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Just assuredly as I say that, if we were to

712
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: unfold a hypothetical scenario. Let's say this year played out

713
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: normal instead of COVID style. If this year played out

714
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: as normal and Brian Kelly and his team are sitting

715
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: there twelve to zero, and they're jockeying for a playoff position,

716
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: and you have, for example, Alabama and Florida both undefeated

717
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: in regular season play, and they go to Atlanta and

718
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: Florida beats Alabama thirty to twenty three in the SEC

719
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: championship game. I have no problem putting Florida in and

720
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: Alabama in over Notre Dame in that kind of scenario.

721
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Speaker 2: What I've seen happen is I've seen Notre Dame have

722
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: a very good year. But I've also seen Alabama and

723
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: Florida have very good years. And they finished the regular

724
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: season with the same resume as Notre Dame, probably a

725
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: stronger strength of schedule or at the very least comparable.

726
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: But then, because my conference has a title game, I

727
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: put both of them in a reward setting in Atlanta.

728
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: I'm not punishing either one of them for losing in

729
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: a game they were rewarded with for winning their conference

730
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: in the regular season. That could happen to Notre Dame.

731
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: That's not out of the realm of possibility. So as

732
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: long as they're okay with accepting that risk, which they are,

733
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Speaker 2: and the sport of college football allows them to exist

734
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: as they do, which it does, why am I mad

735
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: at them for doing nothing more than I would do

736
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: if I ran that university's athletic department. Having said that,

737
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: who knows what? Twenty twenty holes. All right, we're going

738
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: to wrap it up with this. I had an interesting question.

739
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: It was for the Late Kick Extra podcast, but I

740
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: thought I had an open spot at the end of

741
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Speaker 2: tonight's show, and this, to me really deals with a

742
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: couple of programs, even though the question is about one man.

743
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: So I thought i'd hit it tonight.

744
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: Just as sure as I say that, I forgot to

745
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: write down who submitted the question. You know what, whoever

746
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: submitted this question, I responded to you, and I told

747
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: you I was going to address it tonight, So you

748
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: know who you are.

749
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Thank you filling the blank.

750
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: Filling the blank asks do you think Kevin Steele is

751
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: the best defensive coordinator in the SEC?

752
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: Most of you know who that is.

753
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: For those of you who don't, that is the current

754
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator at Auburn. He's been there five years now,

755
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: and so what.

756
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Do I think? What do we think on this? Think

757
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: along with me? What do you think about this?

758
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: Kevin Steele, It's not a name that pops to the

759
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: front of everyone's mind nearly as quickly as let's say,

760
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: Brent Venables at Clemson does nationally. Now we're talking about

761
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: teams in the Southeastern Conference here.

762
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: But who would we put above him? Who would you

763
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Speaker 1: put above him?

764
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: It's not Bo polliniate Lsu he just got back fifteen

765
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: minutes ago. Is it Dan Lanning at Georgia guys going

766
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: into his second year? I mean, do we really know

767
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: where Dan Lanning stops in Kirby Smart's great recruiting starts.

768
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you need a bigger body

769
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: of work.

770
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Is it Elco at A and M He's three years in,

771
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: but they're still rebuilding that roster. So, to be honest,

772
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: even three years in, we really don't fully know what

773
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: we have with Mike Elko. Barry Odom could be the

774
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: answer to this question truth be told at Arkansas, but

775
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: because of roster limitation and the fact that he has

776
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: been there about fifteen minutes too, we can't answer him.

777
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 2: There are two names that I think you could arrive at.

778
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: One is Kevin Steele and the other one's Todd Grantham.

779
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: Those are the two names that I think you could

780
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: arrive at. And if I were to poll coaches, and

781
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know where this would land, but I

782
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: know that I've talked to some people inside the SEC.

783
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: If I were to pull personnel on the coaching side

784
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: of the fence inside the SEC, Kevin Steele, Todd Grantham,

785
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: you can have one of them iss your defensive coordinator.

786
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Who would you take?

787
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: I think because the scheme that grant them runs is

788
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: a lot more exotic. They just do more things. I

789
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: think a lot of them would lean grant them. But

790
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: to me, I don't think you go wrong either way.

791
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: And it's one of those deals where I would give

792
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: you first pick and I'll just take whoever is left over,

793
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: because I'd be more than happy to take Kevin Steele

794
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: off your hands if you want to leave him with me.

795
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Either one of them work because they both really hit

796
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: on the same point. And the point is this. The

797
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: head coach at Florida is Dan Mullen. The head coach

798
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: at Auburn is Gus Malzon. Malzon is admittedly further into

799
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: his tenure at Auburn than Mullen is at Florida, But

800
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: think about to this point, in their respective tenures at

801
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 2: their respective outposts, what has been the identity of their

802
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: best teams. Auburn especially lately, what has been the identity

803
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: of their team when they're winning these games out of

804
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: nowhere against number one Georgia, number one Alabama, when they're

805
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: at their best, and when Florida so far under Dan Mullen,

806
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: has been at their best.

807
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Has it been hanging half one hundred every week.

808
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: Or has it been doing enough not to lose offensively

809
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: but then playing lockdown defense, opportunistic defense, turning the ball

810
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: over on defense.

811
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Speaker 1: Here's what they've done.

812
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 2: Whether it be Grant them at a Florida or whether

813
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: it be Kevin Steele at Auburn, what they've done is

814
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: they've been good enough to overturn what the identity really

815
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: is supposed to be of those programs. If you're a

816
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: believer as I am, that when programs are good, they're

817
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: probably reflecting the fingerprint of their head coach. That's the

818
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: antithesis of what you've got at Auburn when Auburn's been

819
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: at their best recently, it's been because they've won defensively

820
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: in spite of offensive limitations.

821
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: Well, that's not Gus Mauson.

822
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not how you would describe a Gus

823
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: Mauson program from fifty thousand feet and it's the same.

824
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: At Florida and now at Florida.

825
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: Again at Florida, Mullen hasn't been there as long, so

826
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: you could say, okay, well you got to give him

827
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: time to get his guys.

828
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: But even if that's the case, that's the whole point. Todd.

829
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Grantham's been good enough to where they've been a contender

830
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: because he's made the identity of the program defense for

831
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: the time being.

832
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: Whether it remains that way is to be seen. So

833
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: I mean use the.

834
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Auburn example, since we since we talked about and since

835
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: you asked about Kevin Steele. Imagine if we were to

836
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: take a time portal and we were to travel back

837
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: to twenty thirteen, and there we are.

838
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: It's in Pasadena, California.

839
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: I believe it's the National Championship game, and Auburn's gone

840
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: into the locker room with a big lead on Florida

841
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: State and here comes flord State and they're storming back.

842
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: But I mean, Auburn has taken a program. Malson in

843
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: his first year, has taken a program that was four

844
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: and eight the year before, didn't even make a bowl game,

845
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: and he's taken a lot of that same roster, and

846
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: he's got him within one quarter of a national championship

847
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: in his first year. And they have run rough shot

848
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: in many cases over the SEC in this twenty thirteen season,

849
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: and they have put up ungodly offensive numbers again with

850
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: some of those very same players that could not walk

851
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: into gum at the same time the season before. And

852
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: you're watching them and they just narrowly get clipped at

853
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: the last minute against Florida State. But imagine if you

854
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 2: were to freeze that fourth quarter and there's Gus Malson

855
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: in his first year at Auburn and he is rewriting

856
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: the Auburn offensive record books in the process of as

857
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 2: at this point, you remember we've paused at the fourth quarter.

858
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: It looks like they're about to win a national championship.

859
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: And imagine if I were to tell you seven years

860
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: from now, friend, he is still going to be the

861
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: head coach at Auburn. But five, six, seven years from now,

862
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: when they're at their best, it'll just be because of defense.

863
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: And you'll have questions every year offensively, and there'll be

864
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: times where it looks like they take a step forward,

865
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: but then they take two steps back, and can you

866
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: believe that? And you'd say no, I mean, if we

867
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: don't continue to click offensively, if we regress that much offensively,

868
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: there's no way he's going to stay here. And I

869
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: would agree with you, but Kevin Steele would have proved

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Speaker 2: it's not, mister Steele, I'm available. I may have a

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Speaker 2: Actually we've got free time for the rest of the

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Speaker 2: night though, cause we're done.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you watching.

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Speaker 2: I know, in the chat before the show's on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: I always tell you, hey, just get us over fifty likes,

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Speaker 2: which is the thumbs up for those of you unfamiliar.

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Speaker 2: And it's because the way that the algorithm works here.

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Speaker 2: It puts us in the trending section of live video.

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Speaker 2: If you get us over fifty likes, you'll notice the

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Speaker 2: sooner you get us over that fifty like mark, the

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Speaker 2: more the viewership goes up. That's because more people are

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Speaker 2: having it suggested to them. So thank you, however you

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Speaker 2: tuned in, thank you for watching it. Subscribe to the

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Speaker 2: channel while you're here because it's free. We will have

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Speaker 2: our next Late Kick Extra podcast released on Wednesday for

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Speaker 2: your entertainment and listening pleasure. You can still submit questions

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Speaker 2: right now via the email inbox, Twitter DMS at late

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Speaker 2: Kick Josh on Twitter, or you could just reply to

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Speaker 2: a comment that I'm about to put momentarily if I

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Speaker 2: didn't already, we see I'll.

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Speaker 1: Put it there already.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, there is a

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Speaker 2: any questions that you have about the Late Kick Extra

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Speaker 2: podcast and we'll do our best.

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Speaker 1: To get them all in.

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Speaker 2: So until next time, for director Colin, for Aaron, for tany,

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Bate. Have a great and safe week and

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Speaker 2: God bless h