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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, and welcome back to Campus Saint

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Speaker 2: Vincent College. Another sunny day here in Lake Trope, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: as practice is underway in front of us on this

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Speaker 2: Wednesday afternoon, Westhuler and Matt Williamson with you for another

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Speaker 2: three hours A Long Drive, a special edition of the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. You already know the

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Speaker 2: drill at this point in training camp. Heck, this is

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Speaker 2: a fourth practice from the end of this thing, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: by now it's moving quickly. I'm sure you've all got

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Speaker 2: the gist of this first two hours inch of the show.

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Speaker 2: Here will be practice, Matt and I will paint a

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Speaker 2: picture for you like we always do on Matt Another

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Speaker 2: important day here at Camp one, where, however, the guys

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Speaker 2: are back in their shells, in their helmets, no pads

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Speaker 2: here today at practice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like a beautiful day, but there's a

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Speaker 3: little haze. I was just a little more worried about

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Speaker 3: the weather this year than usual.

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Speaker 4: We gotta hit a little bitter in camp.

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Speaker 2: We did.

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Speaker 3: I thought, I know, we got good word mostly from labs.

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Speaker 3: There's more doubt in than I am obviously that it

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Speaker 3: was gonna go padded, not padded not. But I kind

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Speaker 3: of thought maybe they would do padded today, take it

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Speaker 3: easy tomorrow going into the game. So oh well, but

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they'll still get a lot of

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Speaker 3: work done. They still do one on one stuff. I

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Speaker 3: guess the first thing we got to talk about, though,

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Speaker 3: is the Will Howard in.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, That's where I figured we would start today.

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Speaker 4: As to bummer.

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Speaker 2: You know, we yesterday when we when we were kind

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Speaker 2: second hour in the practice portion of the show, we

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Speaker 2: shared with everybody how Will Howard had left practice early,

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Speaker 2: and how John new Smith as well had left practice early.

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Speaker 2: Good news on the John new front. He's back out there. Today, uh,

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Speaker 2: which is which is good to see. Yeah, he is.

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Speaker 2: He's he's over there right now kind of at the

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Speaker 2: at the front of that group, watching watching walkthroughs. He's

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Speaker 2: got his his equipment on and everything and looks like

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Speaker 2: or at least a participant. I shouldn't speak on how

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Speaker 2: he's dressed, and he's he's been going through warm ups

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Speaker 2: and some of this walkthrough stuff so far.

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Speaker 4: That's obviously promising, very.

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Speaker 2: Promising, yes, but not as encouraging, not as good a

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Speaker 2: news about will Howard. Reports coming out that he will

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Speaker 2: be missing about three weeks ish with a with an

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Speaker 2: of course, Mike Tomlin Willson speak tomorrow Matt to kind

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Speaker 4: We'll get abut practice scrub.

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Speaker 2: It will be your typical like three minute after practice scrum.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a you know, like the course of what

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Speaker 2: he typically does at a press conference during a game

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Speaker 2: week where he'll kind of lay out the opponent for

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Speaker 2: could happen today after practice, could happen tomorrow. Who knows.

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Speaker 2: If we'll get an official word from the team. I'm

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Speaker 2: unfortunately for the rest of this training camp period, for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And frankly, I I know that there's a lot

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Speaker 4: I mean, but I mean, I'm not going.

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Speaker 3: To write the whole story yet, but the short term

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Speaker 3: Little or none Rudolph does some, but yeah, and now

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Speaker 3: those good things, was set up to do a lot

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Speaker 3: of preseason gap right right right, Maybe even some with one,

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Speaker 4: Now, we'll wait to see what.

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Speaker 3: Tomlin says tomorrow, but I think it's pretty safe to

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Speaker 3: And my worry and hunch is he won't play a

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Speaker 2: You know it does were you maybe not so much

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Speaker 3: Twenty Yeoh, I don't know the changes the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: You would need Aaron Rodgers and Mason Rudolph to both

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Speaker 4: And I know people love him, but that probably would

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Speaker 4: not have gone well.

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Speaker 2: Correct, correct, no doubt, and listen, anybody who's a third

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Speaker 2: go great for you. If you're the Ben Roethlisbergers of

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Speaker 3: He's also an early first round pick and absolutely absolutely

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Speaker 2: This was the preseason where it felt like him to

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, you might not have him play

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Speaker 2: of in stadium work. What's that mean for Will Howard?

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Speaker 2: What's that mean for you? Know, the other quarterbacks on

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Speaker 2: an evaluation, a lot of snaps, a lot of reps,

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Speaker 2: and again comfort, comfort, and he will have opportunities like

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Speaker 2: that going forward, but not like this year. I don't

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Speaker 2: think where you have so clearly you have a veteran

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Speaker 3: Say you're very very veteran number one, very better at

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Speaker 2: Who was you know, on the eighteenth green of his

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Speaker 2: walk right into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you've got a probably doesn't want to play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got a backup now who's been in the

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Speaker 3: And you know exactly there's no secrets about him, right,

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Speaker 3: He's been with the organization, you know what nine years

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Speaker 2: I think for Mason, eight of those were here with

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Speaker 2: this year, because I don't think he's ever gonna have

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Speaker 2: as big of a piece of a pie as he

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Speaker 2: would have had this this summer.

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Speaker 3: Right, And you laid out the top two guys and

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Speaker 3: we know exactly who they are. But the folks out

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Speaker 3: there that think that this team doesn't have a plan

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Speaker 3: just aren't paying attention because this was all planned for

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Speaker 3: Howard to show as much as he possibly can. And

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Speaker 3: I know I'm harping on this a lot, but it's

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Speaker 3: And I don't know one hundred percent that it will,

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Speaker 3: but if they go get their quarterback in the first

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Speaker 3: round next year, the Howard experience here and in games

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Speaker 3: in the preseason is going to help that guy totally.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like he's an a big brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I always say exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, grad Kowski and Leftwich were that guy. Those

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Speaker 3: you know for Tiger, Go get Tiger next year, but

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Speaker 3: his caddy's already been around the block. And what's cool

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Speaker 3: the national title the year before.

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Speaker 4: I was even like he knows who he is, Like

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Speaker 3: Whoever that player is it, Say it's Drew Aller played

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Speaker 3: against him at Penn State, and be like, man, that

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Speaker 3: guy whipped my team and took him to the national title,

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Speaker 3: and now he's going to be presumably my backup. That's great,

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Speaker 3: you know, Like I'm so comfortable that now. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that whole plan's ruined. But there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Because of absolutely there's there's a lot more juice left

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Speaker 4: I wish he did it in practice in week two.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, or even I mean even

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Speaker 2: in many camp it could have gotten could have gotten

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Speaker 2: himself back right for training camp. But you're right, if

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Speaker 2: this happens in the regular season, it's not as big

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Speaker 4: Not a couple days before the first preseason not a

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Speaker 2: Days before the first preseason game, where you know, you

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Speaker 2: knew he was going to get a ton of work

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Speaker 2: done in in stadium at least against three other opponents.

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Speaker 4: And be good and bad or whatever. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't care how would happened.

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Speaker 3: It would make him a better player long term and

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Speaker 3: make the quarterback room stronger.

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Speaker 2: Long completely agree. And you know for that hypothetical scenario

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Speaker 2: that that a lot of people believe in. And I

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Speaker 2: know you you you've kind of jokeing about this, how

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Speaker 2: like if you say anything about Will Howard other than

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Speaker 2: how he's the next franchise quarterback, right you get you know,

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Speaker 2: boyd A couple people in your mentions.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, they're a little rough on you this

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I know his future, sure, sure, right,

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Speaker 3: I think he wasn't drafted in the sixth round to

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Speaker 3: It, But somebody always benefits from these things. There's always

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Plenty to keep an eye on, Plenty to think about,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you might be right on that one.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a bump up for Jones. But Anderson

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Speaker 3: So the big headline is Sor Sanders is going to

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Speaker 2: Steelers preseason opener on Saturday. Uh and we do know

441
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: that Will Howard will not be a part of that

442
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 2: game unfortunately. On Saturday, fun drill going on across the

443
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 2: field from us as the offensive linemen are working on

444
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 2: their form tackling.

445
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 3: You wouldn't think we said offensive lineman, not defensive offensive lineman.

446
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 4: My hunches.

447
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 3: This will be the one try, one chance in the

448
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 3: entire season that they do this drill. Why would offensive

449
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 3: lineman work on tackling, Well, there are turnovers, there.

450
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: Are interceptions and fumbles.

451
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 4: They don't get much practice at it.

452
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 3: So there is a big matt, you know, like a

453
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 3: gymnastics type bat, and they're holding up, you know, tackling

454
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,719
Speaker 3: dummy type things, and these guys are running through it

455
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: and being coached how to tackle pretty much on the

456
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 3: run that are not don't bring down like you're a

457
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: punt return, you know, up on a pine.

458
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 4: You're just trying to blast.

459
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: Someone that caught a football is going the other way

460
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 3: and save a touchdown. If I'm those guys, this is like,

461
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 3: it's just like going the water park or something like.

462
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 3: This is so much different than kick sliding and a

463
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 3: hand placement and dealing with Cam Hayward.

464
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 4: And I had to blast these things and just destroy

465
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 4: the man.

466
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: You had to run full speed into this dummy, right,

467
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: take it out? Yeah? Uh, say them all.

468
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 4: And I was shocked to see it, but I gess

469
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 4: it makes sense.

470
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah it does.

471
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, me ten minutes all year about it, you.

472
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: Know, totally, Yeah, but it does. It's one of those

473
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 2: things you don't think about until you know till a

474
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: defensive back is running, a linebacker is running the other way,

475
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: and someone's got to bring them down. Somebody's got to

476
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 2: tackle them as uh.

477
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 4: At least see your body, do it once or twice.

478
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: Exactly right, get the feeling of it down and know

479
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: how to you know, put your shoulder into the into

480
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: the right spot and all those different things. It's funny, man.

481
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I would not want to be

482
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: tackled by Isaic say them all. That's a big human being.

483
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 4: No. I was watching Frasier too.

484
00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got that, he's got that wrestler launch exactly.

485
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: It looks like he's diving at something right from like

486
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: a stand up two points stand.

487
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: Give him two points of the takedown there.

488
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 4: But those are the linemen make tackles, you know.

489
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 3: I mean they're hard to get around if you're a

490
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: little dB that just picked the ball off, you know,

491
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 3: and you don't want to get hit by those guys.

492
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: One of my favorite statistics that gets regurgitated every once

493
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 2: in a while, and I'm sure we'll get mentioned when

494
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: he goes into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, you know,

495
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: about three hundred and sixty days from now. Larry Fitzgerald,

496
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: with this, he has more tackles registered tackles in his

497
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: NFL career than he has drops.

498
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: I know, it's amazing, it's amazing right.

499
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: Now, great. He barely has any drops. That's what makes it,

500
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 2: you know, so easy. But think, I mean, he had

501
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: to make a handful of tackles throughout his career because

502
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: his interceptions and you're chasing or someone fumbles and you're

503
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: chasing the guy down. So hey, everyone's got to be

504
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: willing to uh to wrap up and take somebody.

505
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: Gets a lot more targets than he gets tackle tackle opportunities.

506
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: Of course, a great long career exactly so little known

507
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: fact and I think he just kind of did it

508
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: for fun. But there was he came out of Minnesota

509
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: High High School of Minnesota and had to do a

510
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 3: year at Valley Forge Military Academy. And during that year

511
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 3: I was with Pitt and he was basically not our

512
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: property yet, you know, so we're still recruiting him. But

513
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: we had advised him to go to Valley Forge and

514
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: that was a big spot and a lot of really

515
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 3: good players would go there and play. But I would

516
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: still watch his Valley Forge tape, you know, and he

517
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: was great. But even but in some of those games

518
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 3: he'd play like linebacker safety sometimes, I mean, just kind

519
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: of for fun. I think, you know, like I can

520
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: do this, you know, it's and make some tackles.

521
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 4: You know. He was not afraid to stick his face

522
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: in there.

523
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 3: And he almost blew up the James Harrison touchdown.

524
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: He did. You know, if he would have had about

525
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: five more yards, I would have made the tackle. Yeah,

526
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: maybe even two more yards and he might have made

527
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: the tackle. But yeah, that's funny. And hey, that stuff

528
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: comes in handy, you know, right.

529
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 4: You can't just not know what to do.

530
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: It's all part of a well rounded skill set, right,

531
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: you know. And it's it's that same kind of like.

532
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: Like your house catches on fire, you can't just lay

533
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: there and die, you know, like you gotta have some

534
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: kind of playing, you know what I mean.

535
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 4: You didn't play on it happening, but you gotta at

536
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: least respond.

537
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: It catches on fire. You still gotta pay Pauli.

538
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: You got that right light.

539
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: You still got to pay Paulie.

540
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: Right, that's not how the play is supposed to go.

541
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean you have to can't just you know,

542
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: adjust on.

543
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: The fly exactly right, exactly, you got the back to

544
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 4: do an no line stuff.

545
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: You gotta be ready for anything, right that he who failed?

546
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: What's the like the he who uh fails to prepare,

547
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: prepares to fail.

548
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, right, right, right is the is the

549
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: old adage, so be a boy scout or whatever.

550
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, they spent five minutes on it, and then there.

551
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: They all got two hits in.

552
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: They all got two hits in on the sled and

553
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: then on the tackling dummy, and then they're right back

554
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: to the.

555
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: Benton and Cam Hayward are worried about their jobs anytime

556
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: soon with these guys taking over.

557
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: But at least they did it. And I'm sure they

558
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: had fun.

559
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: No doubt. And maybe that's part of it too. You know,

560
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: like you're you're coming down the home stretch of camp,

561
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: everyone's a little beat up. Yea, another hot day out here.

562
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: Let's let these guys start with five minutes of enthusiasm

563
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: and you know, and that might sound to some people

564
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: like youth football stuff, but it's not like these guys.

565
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't care, man, I don't care how much you

566
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: love your jobs.

567
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: Guys. You know, yeah, I don't.

568
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: Care how much you love your job. There's still times

569
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: that it feels like work. That that adage of if

570
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: you do something that you love, it'll never feel like work.

571
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: I understand mostly.

572
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: True, and that's my life to a t.

573
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: Don't get me here, But there's still times that it

574
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: feels like work, you know, and.

575
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: I'm dragging today, I don't feel well, or when we have.

576
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: To do shows on Christmas or when we have to

577
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: do it, you know what I mean. That definitely feels

578
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: like work, no doubt. And so for these guys, as

579
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: much as they love it, as much as they are,

580
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, grown adults getting paid a lot of money

581
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: to play a kid's game, it's it's still fun to

582
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: mix in, mix in that kind of stuff and lighten

583
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: up the mood from time to time.

584
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: And we've done a lot of play by play practice,

585
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: so who was last week or two?

586
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 4: Excuse me?

587
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: And some of the O line stuff, sometimes they're just

588
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: standing around talking and by them by standing around, it's

589
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: not like they're just not doing anything there, right, they're

590
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: not loitering or taking a nap. But I mean there

591
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: are times during the course with two and a half

592
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: hour practice where they're not really doing physical O line

593
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: stuff on purpose.

594
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: So why not tackle somebody? You know?

595
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: Totally yeah, and that that makes a lot of sense

596
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: too when you put it that way. Uh, tight ends

597
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: going through some receiving drills in front of US quarterbacks

598
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: working on some footwork. You got the running backs far

599
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: side of the field running the gauntlet, working on all

600
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: the different uh you know, gauntlet style of things that

601
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: they do over there with ball security and blocking and

602
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: all those different things.

603
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: I see it in the third field used. Yeah, defensive

604
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: something going too far away from Yeah.

605
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: There's something going on over there with the defensive backs.

606
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: I think I.

607
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: Like that is DB's Yeah.

608
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, haven't seen uh, I haven't

609
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: seen Jalen Ramsey out here yet.

610
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: But oh, okay, but keep an eye out.

611
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: But they are very away. I was looking for him.

612
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: I was looking for him during stretches. Uh.

613
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 4: And and did you mentioned you did not see Harmon

614
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: yet either?

615
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: Have not seen Harmon yet either? Yeah, so.

616
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 4: Far away.

617
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: And again the defense is yeah, I mean one hundred

618
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: and twenty one hundred and fifty yards away from us,

619
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: down all the way on the other side of the valley.

620
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: Here, the big guys on defense look like they're doing

621
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: these bag drills.

622
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, doing some just kind of change the direction, change the.

623
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: Direction and flipping hips and getting through some some cones

624
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: and then.

625
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: Some different kind of stuff today.

626
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. We just mentioned the old lines doing some

627
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: different stuff. The D line's doing some different stuff too.

628
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: It's that time of camp.

629
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little you know.

630
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Running backs are coming over here to Aaron Rodgers has

631
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: a handshake with all these running backs that he was

632
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: just doing with the running backs as they come over.

633
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the uh, the Maverick and Goose,

634
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: like I got the need for speed a little were missing,

635
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: they missing, and then get back on the on the

636
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: other side.

637
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: The running back. I think that's new. He came up

638
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: with it.

639
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: This is a really cool right, these forty year olds,

640
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: they really know what they're as h Rogers and Jalen

641
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: Warren working on some exchange stuff. But yeah, I'll be

642
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: interested when they get back over here, which should be

643
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: soon here. I believe we'll have team period coming up

644
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: in about five ten minutes, and when that happens, we

645
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 2: should get a better look at everybody who's here in

646
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: front of us. Who is harmon Yeah, not only you know,

647
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: not only who's getting a veteran's day. Maybe who's out

648
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: here but isn't a full participant, Like we'll be interested

649
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: to see how much John new Smith does, uh, he's

650
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: got his full get up on and everything. But he

651
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: did leave practice early yesterday, so worth keeping an eye on.

652
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: Ramsey didn't practice yesterday.

653
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Ramsey did not practice yesterday. Yes, So that again, all

654
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: of these, all of these things that we will continue

655
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: to try and discuss and paint the picture for you

656
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: as practice goes along.

657
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: And I think it's pretty clear that tomorrow is going

658
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: to be a physical added practice. Yes, maybe they do

659
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: keep it light on the Ramseys and Harmon's and some

660
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: of these guys you know one.

661
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Hundred percent, you know, one hundred percent, and as you've

662
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: always mentioned, opportunity to get you know, evaluations and looks

663
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Speaker 2: at maybe some other guys in different roles, in different

664
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: spots and elevated roles. So that's never a bad thing.

665
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Speaker 4: I have a bunch of corners. Yesterday they got more

666
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: and more opportunities.

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00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: Yes, there were, and I I with not seeing Ramsey

668
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: so far, not seeing Darius Slagh so far either, Now

669
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Speaker 2: again that's we will, we will, we'll follow up on

670
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: that his practice rolls along here. Yeah, but looks like

671
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of opportunities for the uh,

672
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, the end. And we know Corey Trice Junior

673
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: is still out as well too, as is Dante Kent.

674
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: You know, so a lot of opportunity for the Pierre's

675
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: and the Echols and the Beanie Pictures. Yeah Porters as

676
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: well too, who was back in the mix yesterday after

677
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: after missing a couple of practices with that thumb injury,

678
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: with that finger injury. So plenty to uh to bring

679
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: you playing Daryl Porter well too, Yeah, yeah that I

680
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: And Hey, everybody has got an opportunity out here today,

681
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: I think especially in that secondary group though, where it

682
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: looks like we might have some veterans days on deck.

683
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: But again we'll follow up on on all of that

684
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Speaker 2: in the next segment when everybody gets closer here on

685
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Speaker 2: the near field.

686
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Speaker 3: I also think it's noteworthy that Rogers has only missed

687
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Speaker 3: one practice. Yeah, I mean he's been out there grinding

688
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: want everybody else, Yeah.

689
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's he spoke I believe it was the

690
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Speaker 2: Joe Rudder of the trip earlier today, and Uh said

691
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Speaker 2: that he's willing to be a preseason participant Saturday in

692
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: Jacksonville as much or as little as Mike Tomlin wants him.

693
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Speaker 2: If he said, you know, if coach wants me to play.

694
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: I'll play If he doesn't, I won't, he said, you know,

695
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: I realize that plans might change now and in the

696
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: absence of Bill Howard, so hey, we'll wait and see

697
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: as uh as there's a lot to uh, a lot

698
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: to discover out here in the next two hours or so,

699
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: Matt and we will uh we will continue to do

700
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Speaker 2: that as we roll along here at practice. Going to

701
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Speaker 2: take a break now, hopefully we'll get some team period,

702
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 2: maybe some seven shots and some exciting stuff happening in

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Speaker 2: front of us in just a few minutes. It's a

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Speaker 2: for your Pittsburgh Steelers, as we've got a few more

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Speaker 2: minutes of this individual period in front of us before

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00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: we should have some congregation or some team period. Although

719
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Speaker 2: to be fair, so far, look like the script is

720
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: a little bit different today, Matt. So, yeah, maybe I

721
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't assume based on what we've seen so far to

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 4: Ye, this could be a change up type practice, you

724
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Speaker 4: know who knows.

725
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: It certainly could as we see Aaron Rodgers and Mason

726
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Rudolph throwing and warming up with some wide receivers and

727
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: some tight ends and man, Matt, I know we've mentioned

728
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: this a couple of times, but feels like Pat Fryermouth

729
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: is having himself a real strong camp out here. Yeah.

730
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Speaker 3: I really like the way he's moving in control, running

731
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: with power. Even if he's not like breaking tackles, we

732
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: can see a powerful stride, very loose hips. I mean,

733
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: I think he's getting better and better, and there's been

734
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: some frustrating moments of his career and sometimes I didn't

735
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: always understand the usage. And I'm sure a lot of

736
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: people listening agree that, hey, they gonna feature him more,

737
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: and I think there's a strong argument for that, and

738
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Speaker 3: maybe we're gonna see it. I know that there's a

739
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: lot of tight ends around and Metcalf's gonna lead the league,

740
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: the team and targets, I'm sure. But we were talking

741
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: off the air. Looks like they're gonna about to do

742
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: seven shots shots I won't do well want it too much,

743
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: but I've brought this up a lot over the last

744
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: couple of years that there's a lot of data in

745
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: the league that tight ends really start to hit their

746
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: stride at age twenty seven, give or take.

747
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: And that's about where he's hitting, you know.

748
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a complex position early, you know,

749
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: career tight ends rarely like the league on fire, like

750
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Speaker 3: a brock Bowers, and it's much more.

751
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: That's why we react like, that's why it was so

752
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: crazy for right.

753
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Speaker 3: So I think people can write tight ends off too

754
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: early in their career or he is what he is,

755
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: because a lot of those guys are a little bit

756
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: of a slow burn, and the really good ones last forever,

757
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: the heath Miller's and Kelsey and you know, Witten, and

758
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: they can't run anymore. Ye, Tony Gonzalez and Gates and

759
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: the Heath Miller is a great example. Is they fade

760
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: away slow once they kind of learned the tricks of

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Speaker 3: the trade.

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Speaker 2: They do. And I have some Heath Miller numbers to

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Speaker 2: back that up for your your uh roaching point here, Yes,

764
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Speaker 2: if you will, but why don't you say we get

765
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Speaker 2: to that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like good stuff about seven.

767
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: Shots getting ready to happen here, simple concept, folks. It's

768
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Speaker 2: like a two point conversion for the offense. Seven different

769
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: two yard line, two yard line? How many times can

770
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Speaker 2: they score? How many times can the defense stop them?

771
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Speaker 4: And seven opportunities? Thus seven show looks like no.

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Speaker 2: Kean U Benton looks like no. Darius Slagh looks like no.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey here.

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Speaker 4: Today, Benton's there. You're being Harmon?

775
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Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, thank you, sorry, thank you for correcting me.

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00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon uh t J Watt is out there for this.

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00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward dressed in here today, but not.

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Speaker 4: Participate seven shots this year?

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Speaker 2: Not this year? Is Aaron Rodgers quickly and the first

780
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Speaker 2: wrap findes dk Metcalf over the back of the end zone,

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Speaker 2: streaking line. And that's what we like to see that's

782
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Speaker 2: a lot of that embrace.

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Speaker 4: And stuff that. Yeah, I think we're.

784
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: Gonna see from him this year. And so the offense

785
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Speaker 2: like they did yesterday, jumps out to an early lead here.

786
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Speaker 4: Yep. Absolutely, that was well earned exactly the way they

787
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Speaker 4: drew it up.

788
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Speaker 2: Looks like Metcalf will stay in.

789
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Speaker 3: He's a hard guy to keep with when he's running

790
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Speaker 3: in a straight line, albeit parallel line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: In that situation, he sure is.

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Speaker 2: It'll be Metcalan well now out there, yep. With the

793
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Speaker 2: trio of tight ends, Mouth, John Hu, and Washington to

794
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: the left, John who in motion, Rogers looking that way,

795
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: well covered, and Rogers just finally able to get Riddle

796
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: one towards Darnel Washington in the back of the end zone,

797
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: but well covered by the secondary and some good pressure

798
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 2: applied there by the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: I like the offensive strategy, though they put Metcalf to

800
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Speaker 3: one side. As you mentioned, the three tight ends all

801
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: detached to the left. Defense just was the better unit

802
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: on that situation. But that's a hard thing to deal with.

803
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Speaker 4: That's a lot of size to the receiver positions.

804
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, and that's great. Ooth and John Hu and

805
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: dk those are some big bodies in there, for sure.

806
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: Put those guys are near the goal line.

807
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: And Wilson will check back in, as will Caleb Johnson

808
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: checks in. Now Aaron Rodgers in the shotgun with Johnson

809
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: to his left, pointing, barking out some signals. Now he

810
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: takes a snap, looking right quickly through. Okay, metcalf and

811
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: he had him y open. But why ye ye, Black

812
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 2: got his hand on that.

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00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 4: One exactly the way he designed it. He pulled the

814
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: trigger at the right time. Just big fellas batted it down.

815
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Speaker 2: Tell you what, that defensive line, they've got a knack

816
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Speaker 2: for doing that.

817
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: That's for sure the most in the league last year

818
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: passes defense at the line of scrimmage, and they were

819
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: second to the Chiefs the year before. I know, me

820
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: and Hayward's the top of the league all the time,

821
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Speaker 3: the best at it. Dude, Why you Black might fit

822
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: in quite well, I think.

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Speaker 2: So.

824
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Speaker 3: It's a huge pause of his second or third time

825
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: we've seen him do that. And you got to give

826
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Speaker 3: Carl donbar some credit for that too. He must be

827
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: coaching them how to, you know, to work on that

828
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: stuff because it's not an accident.

829
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely, a second team offense checks in Mason Rudolph now

830
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: in the gun with Tray Sermon to his left. Rudolph

831
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: and McCallum communicate, get on the same page, and they'll

832
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: bring Max Hurlaman in motion from right now.

833
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 4: To get more and more attention.

834
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: He sure is snap his back thrown to the end

835
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: zone for Robert Woods and broke it up nicely by Beanie.

836
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: Bishop got a hand on that one.

837
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, everything kind of looked good there. That

838
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: was a well placed ball. He had a step at

839
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: most on him. He tried to just drop it in

840
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: there and that's where the ball should have gone. But

841
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: Bishop was you know, sometimes you have a million dollar

842
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: shot and the goalie's got one million and one in

843
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Speaker 3: his pocket, you know whatever.

844
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Speaker 4: The Mike Lang is them I forget.

845
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. It's good play by Beanie to

846
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: close and break that one up at the last second,

847
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: intended for Robert Woods. And so after the offense drew

848
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: first blood three straight for the defense, let's see if

849
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: the offense could claw back into the right side. Here

850
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: a lot of beef as John new Smith and Darnell

851
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: Washington checking.

852
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 4: In Pearlman's in the backfield and he can get carries too.

853
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: He sure can, but it's going to be a pass

854
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: to Robert Woods. Nice slant route. Confuse the defense there,

855
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: and the offense does finally punch back.

856
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: A little bit of play action, freeze that linebacker for

857
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: a little and afte where he should.

858
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: To drop absolutely and now it looks Rudolph. It was

859
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: well done by Rudolph. It looks like Skylar Thompson going

860
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: to check into the game at quarterback.

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: What's the score here?

862
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Speaker 2: I would say three.

863
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: Two, Okay, I think this is a six one.

864
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, But I'm going to my knowledge.

865
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: Three to two for the defense is how I would

866
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: score it. So far, Thompson in the shotgun brings JJ

867
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: gallbreath in motion from left to right, and did someone

868
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: move on the offensive line? The defense is pointing yeah,

869
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: and they're gonna let them. They're gonna let them play

870
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: it out anyways. This one will be a handoff right

871
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: up the gut and that Yeah, that's a score. But

872
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: that's difficult as well too. It's not defense the running

873
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: back when there's no pads and no.

874
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: Tackling, Like I have mixed feelings on that, Like in

875
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: a way, it feels like it's cheating. But if you

876
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: don't do it, then they know you're gonna throw every

877
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: time to.

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00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: Point. Uh So it looks like we're tied at three

879
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: a p and they're going to bring the ones back

880
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: in to decide this thing. Matt, little drama here, but maybe.

881
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: That's what Tom wanted, was get seven.

882
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: You know, let's tie this up. Let's keep them a

883
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: little honest. Yeah, that's a that's a good point by you.

884
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: There's no real right way to handle that. Like, we're

885
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: not fully padded. It's a tough goal line run. But

886
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: of course you're going to get in you.

887
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: Unless your offensive lineman fall on their keyster right right,

888
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: So final rep here maybe for the wagu steak and

889
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: the lobster and the shrimp in the dining hall tonight,

890
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: we shall see Aaron Rodgers with Kenneth Gainwell to his right.

891
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: He's got Metcalf to his right as well, trio of

892
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: wide receivers as the left. Gainwell in motion looking that

893
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: way back from the middle. Touchdown, well drawn up, well protected.

894
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and another in breaker for Metcalf right in the middle

895
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: of the end zone there.

896
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: And the offense able to after falling behind three to one,

897
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: able to get three straight reps there and claim.

898
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: To win a couple of practices in a row where

899
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: they're not getting pushed around anym They are holding her

900
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: own just like we'd wanted.

901
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I completely agree. Yeah, and uh, that's encouraging to see.

902
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: Yesterday I thought was a very nice move in that direction. Today, Yes, today,

903
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit of the same.

904
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be like that pseudo tackling drill.

905
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: I was just I always enjoy these.

906
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: I think they're good.

907
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: I do as well too, And I was I was

908
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: gonna say, I was thinking about getting back into some

909
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: of that tight end stuff here. But we can hold

910
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: on to that for just a minute, because this is

911
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: gonna be. We're gonna have right in front of us

912
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: running backs and tight ends and.

913
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: Looks like receivers receivers.

914
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, against defensive backs. And basically Matt's laid this out before.

915
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: But you've got what, Matt, five ten yards of space

916
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: between the sideline.

917
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they put cones con in from the numbers, in

918
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: from the number, so you don't have you don't have

919
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: the numbers to the sidelines.

920
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: It's more narrow than that, and yards of space. Yeah,

921
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: and they won't tackle to the ground.

922
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: But Queen and Warren here.

923
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: Queen did a nice job and you got it.

924
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: So is the defender. You got to break down. You

925
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: got to stay in front of your man whereas you know.

926
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: The game ground as quick as possible, but not be

927
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: too aggressive to get a field if you're the ball carrier.

928
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: That wasn't great.

929
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: That wasn't great there by Malik Harrison.

930
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: Now he got a little too ahead of him.

931
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: So little too little, too quick on that one. And

932
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: if you're the ball carrier, you've got, you know, to

933
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: take missing a phone booth. Basically, that was nice, good

934
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: rep there by Evan Hall.

935
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he did at full speed. He didn't He

936
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: didn't chop his feet at all. He just got what

937
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: he could using lots smooth there too.

938
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

939
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 4: A big big fellow.

940
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that big frame of his man.

941
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: He's he can do some things after the catch, he

942
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: sure can.

943
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: He's bottom half is like tree trumps. Yeah, unbelievable. Uh.

944
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson there with some nifty footwork.

945
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: A rapid fire drillers getting a lot of stuff.

946
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: Is that Cam Heyward on the far side pushing a

947
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: sledge with one of the equipment managers sitting on.

948
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. He kind of does his own thing.

949
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: He does. It's working out for him so far to the.

950
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: Keep doing what you're doing.

951
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: When the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor, let him go, let

952
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: him go. He's rolling. Is a dk metcalf there trying

953
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: to kind of clark a little bit? Yeah, and there's

954
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: some Hey, there's some bumping in these drills. Oh yeah,

955
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: there's no collisions, there's no tackling or anything like that,

956
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: but there's there's some some bumping and some collisions for sure.

957
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: As uh that defensive player that's a.

958
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: Defensive player who caught the ball there, yes, against against

959
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: uh Juan Thornhill, now Beanie Bishop and Roman Wilson. Uh.

960
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's just fun to see these guys

961
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: move in open space.

962
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: And yeah it is.

963
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: Which defenders can can you know, hit that trigger and

964
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: quickly get downhill? Which ball carriers can kind of open

965
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: up their hips and and and do a little shimmy

966
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: shake and free himself up some space.

967
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: I would say it's more for the defense and the offense,

968
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: but yeah, how quickly can you get to a spot

969
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: where you're in control? Knees bent in a tackling position

970
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: and either slow them up to the cavalry arrives or

971
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: put them on the ground by yourself, you know, an

972
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: open field. Yeah, absolutely, that was nice there by thirteen.

973
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: It was Scotty Miller Man he moves well as eighty.

974
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: Seven's all right to J. J.

975
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Gall breath. Yeah, I mean he's one of the guys

976
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: I want to watch Saturday and be in the season

977
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: because we know that it's a pretty established tight end

978
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: room for the Steelers. But he's a he's a unique type,

979
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: and I don't know.

980
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: He made a real nice catch over his head and

981
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: head earlier to day, you know, nice extension and body control.

982
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: Andatdy Miller once again he can Miller can he can

983
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: spin these guys around.

984
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: That's pretty nice by Washington washing l and.

985
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: The crowd goes wild as Washington kind of hits the

986
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: burners there at the end.

987
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: Not gonna be le specialty obviously, Yeah, exactly right. I

988
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: mean that was something by Washington though considering nine out

989
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: of ten times he's trying going to run.

990
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: He's probably going to run right through the center of

991
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: your chest. Yeah, gain well with a little little shimmy

992
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: shake there.

993
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

994
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Connor Hayward carrying the ball.

995
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: Hayward's alright at this too.

996
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know he is. He's he's got that

997
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: kind of low center of.

998
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: The gravity at tackling chronic going up against I guess

999
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: he's a gunner.

1000
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: You know that's a good offensive player.

1001
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah he has that Rock Taylor maybe not sure, but yeah,

1002
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: going up against Trey Sermon there. But yeah, hey, you

1003
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: gotta get the you gotta get the special teams guys,

1004
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: some experience.

1005
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's close to tackling drills.

1006
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: You're gonna get exactly right, exactly right, especially in this

1007
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: day is Danny Smith comes over and is offering his

1008
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: uh his words of encouragement to all these guys, and

1009
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: uh yeah, offensive line looks like they're working on some.

1010
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: Was Brandon Johnson was went to double check because maybe

1011
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: they have gunner intentions for him once in the Saturday game.

1012
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: You know, someone's got to do it right, Ye's got

1013
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: to prove that they can do it. Offensive lineman looks

1014
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: like they're working on some some zone blocking.

1015
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: Comment offensive player coming up here as it's.

1016
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: Gain well playing defense, Yeah, Rod would wrap him up.

1017
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: Well there, Maybe.

1018
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a kickoff coverage. I'm just or maybe

1019
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 4: he's volunteered. I don't know.

1020
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Beanie and DK metcalf. That's a sizable difference.

1021
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think K would have taken a differ.

1022
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: To dance them if that was because as the Beanie

1023
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: goes over and gives Danny Smith a hug and says, listen,

1024
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: don't put.

1025
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: Me up against and nobody really wants to what are

1026
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: we trying to do here?

1027
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: Imagine when they did. It's like with Jerome, Oh, that

1028
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: would have been, you'd rather do it here than live.

1029
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: You would absolutely rather on a day where it's just helmets.

1030
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: And shells, basically two hands, exactly.

1031
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Right, exactly right, Matt, Let's get it's a good drill.

1032
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 2: Though it is good drill. Let's get to our.

1033
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: First day flip side, so now you'll be running the

1034
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: opposite side. The sideline will be your right as opposed

1035
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: to your left, your ball carrier.

1036
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's get to our final break here the

1037
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: first hour, we'll continue to describe practice for you. I

1038
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: also want to get into some of that those tight

1039
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: end numbers and kind of uh peak of their career

1040
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: stuff that Matt was discussing a little bit there with

1041
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: Pat Fryer, Mouf and Heath Miller. I got some numbers

1042
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: to beat on the tackle on DK Metcalf chasing down

1043
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: Connor hey Way.

1044
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: This is offensive tackle day. Offensive players learning how to

1045
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: deal with interception day.

1046
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: You know, hopefully we won't have to do that very

1047
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: often season.

1048
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: They throw zero that's for sure.

1049
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 4: Don't have a fumble recovery. You know.

1050
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Hour in the books, two more hours to go. Here

1051
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: on this special edition of The Drive, will continue to

1052
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: paint the picture for you of everything going on here

1053
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: at Chuck Nollfield on the campus of Saint Vincent College.

1054
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: It's another training camp day. Coverage ongoing here on Steelers

1055
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.