Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome The Mother nos Death. On today's episode, we're going
Speaker 1: to be talking about Meghan Markle's postpartum preaclampsia, a child
Speaker 1: that came home from daycare that was missing something, a
Speaker 1: murder for higher plot that is local to us. Actually,
Speaker 1: so that's pretty interesting. Pet anxiety. Just wait till you
Speaker 1: hear what I have to say about that, and what
Speaker 1: happens if you steal a body temporarily from a funeral home.
Speaker 1: So lots of interesting stuff today. Let's get started with
Speaker 1: Meghan Markle. So her podcast launched this week, The Confessions
Speaker 1: of a Female Founder. But basically she had Whitney Wolf
Speaker 1: hurt On, who is the founder of Bumble, and they
Speaker 1: were talking and in their discussion it came up that
Speaker 1: they both had pre acclampsia postpartum and you actually went
Speaker 1: through this, So do you want to talk about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I actually had a serious thing happened. So it's crazy
Speaker 1: on this podcast. They so what this is like a
Speaker 1: new podcast that she started? Yeah, So she had this
Speaker 1: big deal with Spotify a couple of years ago, so
Speaker 1: she came out with this show called Archetypes, and then
Speaker 1: it was really weird and stiff, and then I believe
Speaker 1: it came out that she wasn't even interviewing the people,
Speaker 1: like a producer or an assistant was interviewing the guest,
Speaker 1: and then they were stitching together her commentary, so it
Speaker 1: sounded like she was interviewing them. But it must have
Speaker 1: not hit the benchmarks with Spotify because it was this
Speaker 1: mega deal and they ended up dropping them. So she
Speaker 1: got this new deal with Lemonada, and then she came
Speaker 1: up with this show Cash Is of a Female Founder,
Speaker 1: which I believe was the title of another show. I
Speaker 1: don't understand how somebody on her level keeps getting in
Speaker 1: these brand like copyright trademark situations that she's getting in.
Speaker 1: She had to rename her entire jam or jelly brand
Speaker 1: or whatever because it was already taken, and I think
Speaker 1: the new one she did, as ever, was the name
Speaker 1: of another brand as well. That's crazy. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you're not coming up with the ideas yourself, then that's
Speaker 1: part of the problem. Yeah, I mean not. It's like
Speaker 1: we we've talked about this before that. Remember we came
Speaker 1: up with this genius idea to start this app that
Speaker 1: was what was it going to be called ipoop or
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, we came up with this app that
Speaker 1: we were gonna call eyepoop, and so you could rate
Speaker 1: public bathrooms but also exists. But also we we thought
Speaker 1: that it would have like a map that had all
Speaker 1: of the public bathrooms just for people that you know,
Speaker 1: you're Let's say you're in a town and you have
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom. It happens all the time,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, I don't know where has a
Speaker 1: toilet that I could use, because sometimes like the Anthropology
Speaker 1: near us, right you go there and they don't have
Speaker 1: a bathroom, and there's there's no place to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom when you're in that little shopping center. It's
Speaker 1: so ridiculous. So if there was an app you could
Speaker 1: pull up that showed a little toilet and even if
Speaker 1: it was like, hey, this is a coffee shop, you're
Speaker 1: allowed to use the toilet, but like you had to
Speaker 1: buy something, but there's still a toilet there. Because there's times,
Speaker 1: especially people that get diarrhea and stuff, that you're like
Speaker 1: I need a toilet, Like right now, I don't have
Speaker 1: time to go into five stores. It's going to end bad.
Speaker 1: So like obviously we were like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is such a good idea, and we're legit thinking about it,
Speaker 1: and then we started looking into it and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this already exists. So that happens sometimes too when you
Speaker 1: come up with ideas because obviously, like other people must
Speaker 1: have the same issue, right, Yeah. And I also saw
Speaker 1: a pretty fair criticism of her show. I was looking
Speaker 1: at the reviews last night and I said, you one
Speaker 1: particularly brutal one. Wait, what did it tell them? What
Speaker 1: it's says? Pull it up? But while I find that
Speaker 1: on my phone, so I saw a fair one that
Speaker 1: was like, I would actually really like to hear this
Speaker 1: show if it was hosted by somebody that founded a
Speaker 1: successful business. And I'm like, you're not wrong. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's launched all these different brands, and I wouldn't consider
Speaker 1: any of them to be particularly successful. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: the thing is is that she'll she'll get the listeners,
Speaker 1: and it's like she already has a lot of listeners, right,
Speaker 1: and that's the ultimate goal. It does It does suck though,
Speaker 1: when when people like I, it's the same thing, like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really consider her like this, this person that
Speaker 1: should necessarily be celebrated like that because like she because
Speaker 1: she is who she is, and she's not really doing
Speaker 1: it herself. It's not like she's a regular person that
Speaker 1: started from scratch and that's what happened. And I mean, listen, like,
Speaker 1: if you're married to Prince Harry, you had the opportunities
Speaker 1: just keep calling for you. You don't. You don't have to
Speaker 1: work as hard as the average person, not even a
Speaker 1: little bit. Not to say not that to say that
Speaker 1: she doesn't, but it's it's just like, come on, I'm
Speaker 1: also not calling her Meghan of Sussex. You're not a
Speaker 1: working royal. You you left and you don't get the title.
Speaker 1: Your name is Megan Markle or if you want to
Speaker 1: go by your husband's last name, like his actual last
Speaker 1: name it's mount Batten windsor so like choose because you're
Speaker 1: not a working royal, so therefore you don't get to
Speaker 1: go by the title and use it to extend your
Speaker 1: brand when all you've done is talk shit on that family.
Speaker 1: So like, I mean, she's doing it. So the review said,
Speaker 1: would rather go down a slide with razors and a
Speaker 1: pool of alcohol at the bottom and listen to this, Oh,
Speaker 1: my god, that's you shouldn't be allowed to leave a
Speaker 1: review unless you've actually listened. But I don't know, Like well,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no shortage of trolls in this world.
Speaker 1: So anyway, let's get back to talking about what she said.
Speaker 1: So I know that there's you know, all these people
Speaker 1: online say that she wasn't really pregnant and all this shit,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'd go that far. Just relax anyway, So she's talking
Speaker 1: with it. What's Bumble like, is it is the skincare
Speaker 1: stop her? No, it's a dating app, but women could
Speaker 1: mess women have well, I don't know if it's I'm
Speaker 1: so out of the loop ten years ago when I
Speaker 1: had used it at a time, women would have to
Speaker 1: initiate the conversation, like if you paired with somebody. Oh okay, wait,
Speaker 1: oh that's the one that chrisper used at some point too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's it's like Tinder, but on Tinder either or
Speaker 1: could message first. But on Bumble at the time I
Speaker 1: use it, I assume it still works that way, the
Speaker 1: female had to contact first. Okay. So anyway, she's talking
Speaker 1: to this woman and they both have. What they're saying,
Speaker 1: is this rare condition, and they always say that it's rare,
Speaker 1: but like I've heard so many people have it, which
Speaker 1: is interesting. So preaclampsia is a condition that it affects
Speaker 1: like five to eight percent of pregnancies, and it's characterized
Speaker 1: by high blood pressure during pregnancy and sometimes fluid retention
Speaker 1: and you could have protein in the urine, So that's
Speaker 1: something that is usually picked up. It's more common to
Speaker 1: occur towards the end of pregnancy, which is one of
Speaker 1: the reasons that they want to see you more often.
Speaker 1: After twenty weeks, you have to go more frequently to appointments,
Speaker 1: and you know, you go to the doctor and they
Speaker 1: check to see if you have fluid in your ankles,
Speaker 1: and they checked your blood pressure and then if you
Speaker 1: have high blood pressure, repeated high blood pressure readings, because
Speaker 1: almost everyone that goes to the doctor has high blood
Speaker 1: pressure just because they're usually like running from place to place,
Speaker 1: and you go and they check it and it's high,
Speaker 1: and they'll say they'll say, oh, this isn't good, and
Speaker 1: then they'll have you come back and check it and
Speaker 1: if you definitely have like a true high blood pressure,
Speaker 1: hypertensive moment. Then they're going to take a twenty four
Speaker 1: hour you're in from you, which is they make you
Speaker 1: pee in this jug for a whole entire day, and
Speaker 1: they want to see if you're high protein in your urine.
Speaker 1: And then once that happens, you're diagnosed with preeclampsia, and
Speaker 1: that in itself is a problem, but then it could
Speaker 1: lead to a clampsia, which could cause strokes, it could
Speaker 1: cause seizures, and it could lead to death. It could
Speaker 1: lead to help syndrome, and that's what I had, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that a little bit later. So post
Speaker 1: part So normally, when you have preoclampsia, the cure is
Speaker 1: delivering the baby and then like it kind of just
Speaker 1: goes away. And they think it has something to do
Speaker 1: with the placenta and the blood vessels of the placenta.
Speaker 1: So getting rid of the placenta just like makes this
Speaker 1: go away. But in some people like Megan Markle this
Speaker 1: this bumble CEO and myself, you get preeclampsia after you
Speaker 1: deliver within a day or two, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: similar thing, but it's also kind of scary because number one,
Speaker 1: you could have a completely normal pregnancy and it won't
Speaker 1: and then it could happen. Number two, if you have preeclampsay,
Speaker 1: you could also get it. But the worst part of it,
Speaker 1: I guess, is that you start having symptoms and you
Speaker 1: might not notice it because now you're not really focused
Speaker 1: on yourself being pregnant, but you just had went through
Speaker 1: this traumatic experience of childbirth and you're taking care of
Speaker 1: a newborn, so you might not even really realize you
Speaker 1: have it. So what happened in my case is I
Speaker 1: personally think that I way realized I had it, and
Speaker 1: the people that were taking care of me was just
Speaker 1: such a shit show, honestly, And I would never recommend
Speaker 1: anybody to give birth at that particular hospital that's near me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it, but like I tell
Speaker 1: everybody I know to not go there. So what happened
Speaker 1: was after I had Lilian. So I told you guys,
Speaker 1: I gave natural childbirth three times, and what happened was
Speaker 1: the second time. So that was when I had Lilian.
Speaker 1: For my first pregnancy of round two kids, I went
Speaker 1: to get an epidoral and it was just like the
Speaker 1: anithesiologist was just like a complete frazzled idiot and like
Speaker 1: as soon as she saw that I had a giant
Speaker 1: tattoo on my back, she was just like, Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I could give you epidural and this
Speaker 1: and that, and I'm just like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: I know so many people that are tattooed that have
Speaker 1: an epidural, So it was like she didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do, which was to me ridiculous because I've never
Speaker 1: heard of an anithesiologist doing that, Like what if you
Speaker 1: have darker skin color, what if you're fat or something like.
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous that that was an obstacle for her.
Speaker 1: So I kind of already knew it was going to
Speaker 1: be a problem. She attempted to give me the epidoral
Speaker 1: three separate times and failed, like it never happened, and
Speaker 1: I gave childbirth. So that's why I gave childbirth against
Speaker 1: my will. Naturally, every single time I had a baby,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like I want, I was down
Speaker 1: for it, but like it was against my will essentially.
Speaker 1: So I give birth the Lilian, and then within like
Speaker 1: a half hour of giving birth to her, I get
Speaker 1: this massive headache. And I have a history of migraines.
Speaker 1: I didn't have one the entire time I was pregnant,
Speaker 1: so they just assumed it was like a hormonal thing
Speaker 1: and this and that, and it was just it was
Speaker 1: so so bad that it was distracting me from enjoying
Speaker 1: this baby and this time with my husband and everything
Speaker 1: because it was so debilitating. So they started giving me
Speaker 1: medicine for it, kept giving me medicine for it. It
Speaker 1: wasn't going away, Like nothing they were giving me was
Speaker 1: touching it. And they finally and my blood pressure was
Speaker 1: high the whole entire time. But they would read it
Speaker 1: and it would be high, and then they'd leave the room,
Speaker 1: and then they'd come back and check it, and then
Speaker 1: it was kind of better, and then they'd leave and
Speaker 1: come back and then it was high. It was like
Speaker 1: intermittently super high, and then kind of normal. And then
Speaker 1: so then they were like, oh, maybe it's just because
Speaker 1: you're in all this pain, that's why your blood pressure's high.
Speaker 1: Like it was so ridiculous. And I just remember at
Speaker 1: some point, like after they were giving me the medication again,
Speaker 1: being like, listen, guys, I want you to scan my
Speaker 1: head because I'm going I might be having a stroke
Speaker 1: or something like this is such a bad headache. I
Speaker 1: started having visual changes and it just was it was terrible,
Speaker 1: like it was the worst feeling of a migraine that
Speaker 1: I have ever had. So then they thought, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: I was having a leak from my epidoral because I
Speaker 1: got poked three times. So you can get an epidoral
Speaker 1: headache because the spinal fluid could leak slowly out of
Speaker 1: the little hole that they puncture into your dora when
Speaker 1: they're doing the epidoral. So then I had to get
Speaker 1: this procedure called a blood patch, which is when they
Speaker 1: take blood from your body and they put it back
Speaker 1: into kind of hope a clotforms over this hole that
Speaker 1: is put in your epidoral space. And that was also
Speaker 1: like a complete shit show because you when you normally
Speaker 1: blood taken, it's with a vacutine or so it's those
Speaker 1: little tubes, and they weren't able to do that because
Speaker 1: they had to collect the blood straight and like sterile blood,
Speaker 1: so they had to take it from a syringe like
Speaker 1: old school style. It just was like and then that
Speaker 1: person that had to take the blood for that didn't
Speaker 1: want to go through my tattoos. It was it was
Speaker 1: just such a shit show. Anyway, The bottom line is
Speaker 1: I go home. They they let me go because they
Speaker 1: just determined that I did. They gave me the blood patch,
Speaker 1: and I still had the headache and I don't know
Speaker 1: why they let me leave with this headache. I go
Speaker 1: home that night, I you know, I'm nursing. I go
Speaker 1: to sleep with the baby, and then I wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning, and you know, Gabe and Iron bed together.
Speaker 1: I wake up and my mouth. I said to him, like,
Speaker 1: can you go get me a drink? My mouth is
Speaker 1: so dry, Like I just had this feeling of like
Speaker 1: like chunks of like dry mucus inside of my mouth
Speaker 1: or something. So I get up and I go in
Speaker 1: the bathroom and when I look in the mirror, I
Speaker 1: have like all of this brown stuff between my teeth
Speaker 1: and I just don't even really think about it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe it's like something I ate last night or whatever.
Speaker 1: And Gabe comes behind me in the bathroom and he says, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to freak out, but I think
Speaker 1: that we need to go to the hospital. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what are you talking about? Like it was
Speaker 1: so weird, it was so scary, but he was serious,
Speaker 1: you know, And I was like, why and he's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: blood on your pillowcase and and something's not right, and
Speaker 1: I just want to take you to the emergency room.
Speaker 1: And I was like, there's blood, and he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to look at it. I just want
Speaker 1: to I want you to get in the car and
Speaker 1: I'm going to take you to the hospital. And I
Speaker 1: said okay, like I didn't know what was happening, And honestly,
Speaker 1: I was probably disoriented because I feel like, knowing me,
Speaker 1: i'd be like, no, I want to see that, I
Speaker 1: need to take a picture of it. Whatever. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. So we go to the hospital, go in
Speaker 1: the emergency room, and they thought it was urgent enough
Speaker 1: to check me right away, because you know, normally you're
Speaker 1: like waiting forever. They take my blood pressure. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the reading was, but it was so
Speaker 1: high that they took me right back, and I was
Speaker 1: like getting treatment with it very quickly, within a couple minutes,
Speaker 1: and I was getting an ultrasound on my liver and
Speaker 1: I was getting all this blood work taken and they
Speaker 1: just said okay, like I was having help syndrome, which
Speaker 1: is when it's starting your blood cells are starting to burst.
Speaker 1: So it's like help stance is h e LLP and
Speaker 1: it stands for hemolysis and which is when the red
Speaker 1: blood cells break and also when you have elevavated liver
Speaker 1: enzymes and a low plate A count. So what happened
Speaker 1: was the platelets in your blood are will cause your
Speaker 1: blood to clot And we were talking about that last
Speaker 1: episode when we were talking about Nurse Hail dying during childbirth,
Speaker 1: and my platelets were so low that my blood wasn't
Speaker 1: clotting and I was spontaneously bleeding through my mouth. And
Speaker 1: that's what was happening, which is like seriously, like women
Speaker 1: die from this. So they put me on It was crazy.
Speaker 1: I got some ivy thing and I was magnesium. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what drugs they were giving me. I
Speaker 1: still had the headache, by the way, and was it
Speaker 1: just was the craziest time ever. So I get readmitted
Speaker 1: to the hospital for a week now after I have
Speaker 1: the baby. And now the most messed up part of
Speaker 1: it is that my baby is no longer a patient
Speaker 1: because she was discharged with me when I left the
Speaker 1: first time, and they say, well, you're not. The baby
Speaker 1: can't stay here with you because she's not a patient anymore.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, what the actual fuck, Like this
Speaker 1: is such bullshit because I was breastfeeding my kid and
Speaker 1: then I breastfetter this whole time. It was crazy. It
Speaker 1: was like my mom and Gabe had to take shifts
Speaker 1: to stay with me at the hospital the entire time
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't that was the only way they let
Speaker 1: the baby in the room with me, and they were
Speaker 1: sticking the kid like on my boob, and I was
Speaker 1: just completely out of it on whatever the medications they
Speaker 1: were giving me were, and like, thank god I got
Speaker 1: better and everything, but it's such a horrible time. It
Speaker 1: was a really horrible time. So I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: happened with her. Like obviously with her, she's such a
Speaker 1: high profile, important person, so they caught it right away
Speaker 1: and they were able to treat her before it led
Speaker 1: to this. But what I'm saying is like for everyone
Speaker 1: that's listening, like it's something that you just need to
Speaker 1: pay attention to, because I feel like at the hospital
Speaker 1: they're just kind of like, so they have such a turnover,
Speaker 1: like have the baby, make sure the people are stable,
Speaker 1: get them out kind of thing, and like, I like,
Speaker 1: looking back, I really should have pushed, especially what I know,
Speaker 1: But like at the same time, I'm telling you, like
Speaker 1: I was probably having some kind of cognition problems as well,
Speaker 1: Like I just kept remember being like think I really
Speaker 1: thought I was having a stroke or something like It's
Speaker 1: not your job to push. It should have been their
Speaker 1: job to recognize what was going on with you and
Speaker 1: listen to you when you didn't feel okay enough to
Speaker 1: be discharged. Well people might say that all the time,
Speaker 1: though it's not even about what I was saying. It
Speaker 1: was more about and they did. They gave me an
Speaker 1: MRI and I wasn't having a stroke. I mean, they
Speaker 1: did do that. And also but they really shouldn't have
Speaker 1: let me go when my blood pressure was that high.
Speaker 1: That that's just I mean, that was like a miss
Speaker 1: on them. And like what am I going to do,
Speaker 1: like sue them? No, I can't do anything, Like ultimately,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm still alive, Like who knows if it
Speaker 1: caused any lasting damage or anything. And then you know,
Speaker 1: then when I got pregnant again, it was like I
Speaker 1: was a high risk pregnancy because of what happened previously,
Speaker 1: so I mean that was kind of good. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: like being a high risk pregnancy because then you get
Speaker 1: checked like way more than the average person. But may
Speaker 1: you made me watch Steel Magnolia's Against My Will two
Speaker 1: weeks before you gave birth, so that horrible scene in
Speaker 1: the movie was just playing over and over and over
Speaker 1: again in my head. Was so mad at you. I know,
Speaker 1: I felt bad about that that because you like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, like Maria's just like, oh, like a lot
Speaker 1: happened for Maria. It's like she's eighteen years old and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, mom comes and picks me
Speaker 1: up from school and she's like, everything's okay, but Mommy's
Speaker 1: in the hospital. This is not okay. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know, Like I was pretty disoriented,
Speaker 1: I guess because I just was like and like, kind
Speaker 1: of kudos to Gabe. I never really said this story
Speaker 1: out loud like this, but I'm like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: what's awesome like that he was that he was just
Speaker 1: like something's terribly wrong and we need to go to
Speaker 1: the hospital right now kind of thing. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if he called momm or what happened, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, I would have if I went back and
Speaker 1: saw that too, I would have been like what the
Speaker 1: hell and like left. But so so yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: story with that. But so it's cool. I mean whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you love her or hate her whatever,
Speaker 1: Like at least she's talking about stuff and whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this will this is a good first episode
Speaker 1: for her, I guess, well for us in particular talking
Speaker 1: about something medical. But I guess we'll see how the
Speaker 1: show progresses. Yeah, I don't I really don't care, like
Speaker 1: and listen, like everybody can make their own opinion about
Speaker 1: those people and stuff, like you don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes and everything like that. Like I
Speaker 1: honestly feel like just like looking at pictures that people
Speaker 1: don't look happy, but like what can you say, Like
Speaker 1: you just don't know, and especially that those people's lives
Speaker 1: with Princess Diana and the kids, and like it's just
Speaker 1: like I can't even imagine like growing up as a
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Speaker 1: stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. All right, so the next
Speaker 1: story we're talking about is just some some bullshit that happens,
Speaker 1: like when you're a working mom. Yeah, so this mom
Speaker 1: calls her child's daycare in the afternoon to check in
Speaker 1: on her and see how they're doing. And it seems
Speaker 1: like the employee was like, we just happened to notice
Speaker 1: one of your daughter's braids is missing. Yeah. So when
Speaker 1: you think of that, if you hear us saying that, okay,
Speaker 1: a kid's braid fell out, you'd just be like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: they're little and sometimes they're attached by a little hair.
Speaker 1: The weirdest part of this story is that this kid
Speaker 1: has corn rows, and anybody that knows like the French
Speaker 1: braid type goes down your head and is attached, how
Speaker 1: would one row of it just fall off? Well, it's missing.
Speaker 1: And if you see the photos of it, it looks
Speaker 1: like if you see the before and after pictures, I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be so obvious. It looks like
Speaker 1: it had to be so carefully removed. When you think
Speaker 1: of pulling hair out, you think of like straggly ends
Speaker 1: from where it was ripped right or from where it
Speaker 1: was cut off. It's so the way it's missing, it
Speaker 1: really it is bizarre, Like it almost looks like someone
Speaker 1: got clippers and like like like shave it off. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's just missing. It's like a complete bald spot.
Speaker 1: So and I guess in theory, like if this kid
Speaker 1: has you know, little kids sometimes have thinner hair, and
Speaker 1: if this kid's getting her hair pulled really tight and
Speaker 1: braided all the time, it's just there's an increased risk
Speaker 1: of the hair falling out, so it might be thinner
Speaker 1: than normal. But it's just when you look at the
Speaker 1: surrounding corn rows, you're just like if it looked anything
Speaker 1: like these, this is just so bizarre that this is missing.
Speaker 1: So I guess she ended up calling the police over
Speaker 1: it because the daycare center wouldn't really give her a
Speaker 1: clear answer as to what happened, and like, seriously, I
Speaker 1: would do the same exact thing, because what the hell happened, right,
Speaker 1: because that that hurts. Whatever happened wants to hurt the kid, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the daycare is saying they have no clear evidence
Speaker 1: of what happened. But then I guess police were reviewing
Speaker 1: the security footage from the classroom and they saw all
Speaker 1: morning the girl was playing with her braids. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a two year old too, so she can't
Speaker 1: even vocalize what happened. So she they see her playing
Speaker 1: with her braids in the morning, and then at some
Speaker 1: point they see one of the daycare workers taking a
Speaker 1: smock off of her, and then afterwards she's like touching
Speaker 1: that area of her head a lot. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of but then it was missing after the smock. It
Speaker 1: is missing and they have no idea where it is.
Speaker 1: Her brett in her hair is nowhere to be found.
Speaker 1: It's very weird. It is very weird, and when you
Speaker 1: guys see the picture of it, you're you're going to
Speaker 1: understand that this is like so weird. So I'm glad
Speaker 1: the mom called the cops because I would have done
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, I mean, I definitely wouldn't be
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with it. And I think what the mom was
Speaker 1: trying to get at is she's not necessarily angry that
Speaker 1: the hair is missing. She's angry at the way the
Speaker 1: daycare is handling it. Yeah, well, and listen, like when
Speaker 1: you don't get a straight answer like that, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, Okay, something shady because any
Speaker 1: way that that came out, the kid had to cry
Speaker 1: pretty significantly. There's no way that that didn't hurt, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about how much it hurts to
Speaker 1: pull your hair. It's just I know's it came off accidentally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the whole entire thing is like the weirdest thing ever.
Speaker 1: And they clearly have before and after fixture. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent missing. It's not even like they
Speaker 1: rebraided her hair in a different way, like it's just
Speaker 1: not there. Yeah, it's so bizarre. It is so bizarre.
Speaker 1: All right, This next story is so messy, and of
Speaker 1: course it's so gonna us because only the weirdest stuff happens.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I saw this story yesterday and I
Speaker 1: saw that it involved a Philly police officer. So I
Speaker 1: was like oh, let me read this just because we
Speaker 1: live here, right, And then I'm reading it and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I sent it to my mom because
Speaker 1: it happened in the town that I grew up in,
Speaker 1: So I was like, look, look what's happened in our
Speaker 1: town since we left. So this twenty six year old
Speaker 1: woman went on Tinder and offered this man she met
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars to kill her boyfriend, her ex boyfriend
Speaker 1: who was a Philly cop, and his nineteen year old daughter.
Speaker 1: But the problem is the guy she met on Tinder
Speaker 1: was a police informant, So of course she got arrested
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Like how what are the chances of that?
Speaker 1: I was thinking that too, because like how much I
Speaker 1: guess there could be a lot of crime happening on Tinder.
Speaker 1: But how do you get from like, let's go on
Speaker 1: a date to can you kill my ex boyfriend and
Speaker 1: her kid? Well, it seems like it said from March
Speaker 1: thirty first April third day, exchanged several phone calls and
Speaker 1: text messages and at all and throughout the process she
Speaker 1: had expressed many times that she wanted her ex boyfriend
Speaker 1: did so that's when she officially offered him the money.
Speaker 1: So then they planned up to meet up at what
Speaker 1: like the Dollar Tree or Dollar General in Glendora, which
Speaker 1: is how we grew up in and that's where the
Speaker 1: arrest was made. So yeah, so there's like so many
Speaker 1: problems with the story. Number one, you're gonna offer somebody
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars to kill two people? Like wait, this
Speaker 1: is the best part. She was gonna give him five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars up front and then pay him in installments,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know Hitman took like Klarna laughter, She
Speaker 1: must be like she must be kind of like off,
Speaker 1: there's no way obviously, you honestly think that you're going
Speaker 1: to hire someone and give them a down payment, which
Speaker 1: is what like no, like nothing five hundred dollars of
Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars and that's gonna be enough to get
Speaker 1: somebody to actually want to kill two people? Like what
Speaker 1: is what is happening there? Like mentally that you think
Speaker 1: that that's well. This reminds me of a conversation we're
Speaker 1: having at dinner last night with Lauren, where we were
Speaker 1: talking about the judge in Coburger's case had decided that
Speaker 1: they couldn't use the autism defense to get him out
Speaker 1: of the death penalty, and that she was kind of
Speaker 1: saying that could be messed up. But you have to
Speaker 1: argue that every single person that commits murder has some
Speaker 1: thing wrong with them, because a normal person would just
Speaker 1: never do something like that. So you can't really take
Speaker 1: mental illness in your yard off the table. No, I
Speaker 1: think that that's I think I kind of disagree with
Speaker 1: that because if you say someone, there's people that have
Speaker 1: like legitimate intellectual disability, okay, and and at that point,
Speaker 1: I just don't consider a person first. Brian Coberger is
Speaker 1: in a PhD program. Well, yeah, that's kind of where
Speaker 1: I talk. He just got diagnosed with autism last month
Speaker 1: or something like. He never was diagnosed with his whole life.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the inability to know right from wrong
Speaker 1: just because of where he's been throughout his life. There
Speaker 1: there definitely could be people on that spectrum that are
Speaker 1: are cannot be considered, Like there's people that have autism
Speaker 1: that like can't go to regular school and stuff and
Speaker 1: they can't and and I don't ever think people with
Speaker 1: a autism And I could be wrong because I don't
Speaker 1: know much about it. I don't think that they have
Speaker 1: intellectual disability. I just think they have a like even
Speaker 1: if they have severe autism, it's because there's a communication problem.
Speaker 1: But they seem to be intelligent people that just that
Speaker 1: just can't communicate and and can't regulate their emotions and
Speaker 1: things like that. That to me is like not anywhere
Speaker 1: near a like a defense for people committing crime, and
Speaker 1: especially somebody that's like made it through high school and
Speaker 1: every single level it is, in the highest level of college,
Speaker 1: like he knows how to functions as a person in society.
Speaker 1: Like the defense is ridiculous. But well, that's other things
Speaker 1: like mental there's other mental health things like schizophrenia and
Speaker 1: stuff like. No, that is I guess I wasn't articulating
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say correctly, But to your
Speaker 1: point what you just said, he was clearly a high
Speaker 1: functioning person, so that diagnosed should not affect him. Because
Speaker 1: if they were allowed to go through with that, how
Speaker 1: many people can they go back to that we're convicted
Speaker 1: of crimes that could potentially use that defect. I mean
Speaker 1: everybody would everybody would would use it. And it's just
Speaker 1: because like listen, like you see these videos for add
Speaker 1: and autism that everybody's like if your kids got this
Speaker 1: symptom and this symptom, and I'm like, every single time
Speaker 1: I look at those videos, I'm like, yeah, I have autism,
Speaker 1: and I have add I have all of it. And
Speaker 1: you could find that in any person if you really
Speaker 1: wanted to. And like, that's just the terrible slope to
Speaker 1: go down because then like essentially nobody, everybody could get
Speaker 1: diagnosed with something. I mean, come on, it's just so
Speaker 1: no that that's not going to work. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: they said that that wasn't going to work. But there's
Speaker 1: a difference between psychiatric illness like schizophrenia and just being
Speaker 1: like a terrible person and like, yes, something's wrong with
Speaker 1: you. You just have no you don't have any empathy, and
Speaker 1: you don't have any you don't have like morals, and
Speaker 1: that's probably in this case. But this girl's just i mean,
Speaker 1: like offering the five hundred dollars doing this over tender.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this cop met this ex girlfriend because she
Speaker 1: was his barber, so they established they had gone out
Speaker 1: for a while and he had just broken up with
Speaker 1: her the month before, and then I guess she was
Speaker 1: so underweighth she gets the yeah, exactly, and you want
Speaker 1: to kill his daughter too. I mean, I guess she
Speaker 1: thinks that that's part of the reason why they're broken up.
Speaker 1: Although if you think about this too, this woman's twenty
Speaker 1: six and the daughter's nineteen, so they're like the same age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is really weird. He must be like significantly older, right,
Speaker 1: he's in his fifties. They were saying, Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: that's interesting. So I guess they're doing this investigation and
Speaker 1: they call, they find the cop, and they tell him
Speaker 1: about this. Could you imagine, like, especially being a police officer,
Speaker 1: getting a phone call or a visit to your house
Speaker 1: saying that somebody is trying to hire a hitman to
Speaker 1: kill you, Like that's that's crazy. No, And then it's
Speaker 1: somebody you know. It's like I could see we've talked
Speaker 1: about this with judges before and lawyers getting threats. I'm
Speaker 1: sure cops get threats from people they've arrested too, but like,
Speaker 1: this is somebody that you were just going out with
Speaker 1: as of a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, it's very eerie. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is probably my favorite story of the week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cause everybody get prepared because I just know you're gonna
Speaker 1: blow up over this one. So MetLife recently did this
Speaker 1: study and they revealed that nine and ten pet owners
Speaker 1: reported noticing signs of separation anxiety from their pets, and
Speaker 1: forty four percent of these people think that pet anxiety
Speaker 1: days should be in the workplace in my lifetime and listen,
Speaker 1: like I'm getting old forty five years. Like when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, people like kept their dog outside all
Speaker 1: day in like a doghouse, and that was considered to
Speaker 1: be like okay, And now we're going from like that
Speaker 1: to you want you literally want your your job to
Speaker 1: offer benefits because you have anxiety about your pet. Like
Speaker 1: it's not your job's problem you have a pet. But
Speaker 1: I we get like a backbone here, seriously and like
Speaker 1: like some resiliency, like it's okay, you can go to
Speaker 1: work and leave your dog, Like your dog's gonna be
Speaker 1: okay and you're gonna be okay. I just think it's wild.
Speaker 1: And one of my neighbors has got a dog recently,
Speaker 1: and she does leave the dog outside all day and
Speaker 1: it barks all day and it like whales. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like I am trying to work and I don't
Speaker 1: want to like why did you get the pet if
Speaker 1: you're's gonna stick it outside? That's really what I want
Speaker 1: to say, Like if you like, why is this anybody
Speaker 1: else's problem but yours and this pet? People are gonna
Speaker 1: argue this about children to this is a problem that
Speaker 1: doesn't need to exist too well, guess what I could
Speaker 1: talk about that too, Like like I don't really understand
Speaker 1: the point of having a kid either if you're not
Speaker 1: gonna like spend time with them all day either. But
Speaker 1: like it's the pet thing is just like you just
Speaker 1: don't if you don't have time to be with the pet,
Speaker 1: that just like, don't get a pet. It's it's like
Speaker 1: the end of story. Like what's I don't understand. It
Speaker 1: is weird because I feel like I often hear people
Speaker 1: talking about like, oh, I have to get a dog,
Speaker 1: and then they get a dog. And it's these people
Speaker 1: I know that are traveling every single weekend. They work
Speaker 1: from like eight o'clock in the morning till seven o'clock
Speaker 1: at night. I'm like, you spend two hours a day
Speaker 1: with your pet, and it's not a good quality of
Speaker 1: life for the pet, always sticking them around, leaving them alone.
Speaker 1: And this article is just like, oh, packages for the
Speaker 1: employees are are necessary because it's not just a problem
Speaker 1: for the pet. It's a full on emotional crisis for
Speaker 1: owners too, and they want employers to acknowledge and take
Speaker 1: care of their pets some mental health. Like what are
Speaker 1: you talking about right now? This is so and listen,
Speaker 1: Like I have a cat and I love her, and
Speaker 1: I like she sleeps in my bed and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But like if we go away for a couple of days,
Speaker 1: like I'm not I don't know, I'm just not losing
Speaker 1: sleep over it. And I mean I think about like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's probably like missing off because we've been gone for whatever.
Speaker 1: But like who should be paying for that or like
Speaker 1: paying for me to take off work. It's just like
Speaker 1: don't you think that It's just completely outrageous. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: And so it's like they're saying that. So part of
Speaker 1: the survey, they asked a lot of questions and they
Speaker 1: said that there's people that actually like take jobs to
Speaker 1: work remotely so they could be home with their pet,
Speaker 1: where they turn down jobs. So they if you want
Speaker 1: to make that decision, that's fine, but if you have
Speaker 1: to go into the office, you should not expect to
Speaker 1: get a paid day off like you. Also, if you
Speaker 1: have a child, shouldn't they get a paid day off
Speaker 1: for childcare? Like you get a certain amount of PTO
Speaker 1: and you need to use that appropriately. Yeah, and you could.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that most jobs now, especially they
Speaker 1: offer PTO and it's like paid time off. You know,
Speaker 1: you get twenty six days a year and like do
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want, call out, sick, go on vacation.
Speaker 1: Like why does it need to be specific for pets?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I find it hard to see
Speaker 1: that there's any jobs that don't like lump it all
Speaker 1: together at this point. Well, you don't pay anxiety days,
Speaker 1: so like why and that's a human They they want
Speaker 1: to have something called paulternity leave, which is like them
Speaker 1: getting paid days off when they get a new pet
Speaker 1: to acclimate the pet to their home. I think if
Speaker 1: you want to, I think, if you're really attached to
Speaker 1: your pet and you really want to be around it
Speaker 1: all the time, it's your right to take a job
Speaker 1: or decline a job whatever, but you should not expect
Speaker 1: your job to accommodate your lifestyle choices, as they really
Speaker 1: don't with kids as well, and really you get maternity
Speaker 1: leave because you've just had a major thing up in
Speaker 1: your body and you need time to yeald. All right.
Speaker 1: So this professional snooker player, Jimmy White, was doing an interview.
Speaker 1: Do you know it's snooker, It's no, it's kind it's
Speaker 1: it's not the same as pool, but it's similar to
Speaker 1: play kol okay. Anyway, So he was doing an interview
Speaker 1: and he discussed that his brother died in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: and after the funeral, everybody went to this pub across
Speaker 1: the street and they were sitting there really really missing
Speaker 1: the brother. So this guy decides to go back across
Speaker 1: the street to the funeral home, break into it because
Speaker 1: at this point it was closed for the night, took
Speaker 1: his brother's body, and then took him out for one
Speaker 1: last time. I well, listen, I want to say that
Speaker 1: he almost certainly had help doing this, because thinking about
Speaker 1: and I hope to god the guy was embalmed. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he was just thinking about taking around this stiff,
Speaker 1: dead weight by he would have had to have help
Speaker 1: from his friends. I think. I mean, it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of it's kind of funny. It's a good story. He
Speaker 1: didn't seem like he got in a lot of trouble
Speaker 1: for it, right, But this is crazy to me because
Speaker 1: he said he took him to a couple of places,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nobody at any of these places was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's happening and called it's weekend at Bernie's.
Speaker 1: Like they just like put a Hawaiian shirt on him,
Speaker 1: in sunglasses and like nobody knew what was going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So he said he took him back to a couple
Speaker 1: of places. Then they went back to the brother's house,
Speaker 1: and then at like five or six in the morning,
Speaker 1: they went back to the funeral home put him back.
Speaker 1: They found him and then locked back up, and then
Speaker 1: a couple of days later the police came and arrested him,
Speaker 1: but they when he explained the situation, they were like,
Speaker 1: why don't you just go apologize and like yeah, like
Speaker 1: how like come on, how are you really going to
Speaker 1: put someone in jail for that? That's it's like everybody understands.
Speaker 1: It's you know, people people do like weirder things when
Speaker 1: people die, and it's just like, I mean, we've had
Speaker 1: stories on here of like people that their wife died
Speaker 1: in the house with them and they just left them
Speaker 1: there for six months. It's just like you don't really
Speaker 1: know how you're going to react in that situation. And
Speaker 1: even this guy, if you talked to him and said, like, hey,
Speaker 1: would you ever take a dead body and like hang
Speaker 1: out with it for the night, he'd probably say no.
Speaker 1: But then when you're in the moment, you're drunk and
Speaker 1: like it happens to you just do crazy things unreal. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. Don't forget to submit your
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Speaker 1: us out on the gold Shields podcast. We recorded it
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and of such an awesome
Speaker 1: conversation with Tom and Lauren Conlin. Awesome show. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was so much fun. And we're going to have him
Speaker 1: on in a couple week. Why don't we have it
Speaker 1: next week? Next week we're going to have him on,
Speaker 1: So listen for that episode. Because he was a cop
Speaker 1: and he was in New York. He has some crazy stories,
Speaker 1: crazy life, so he's going to be able to contribute
Speaker 1: a lot to some of our stories. Yes, you guys
Speaker 1: next week, say I have a good weekend. Thank you
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