Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey there, folks, and welcome. We are trying something new.
Speaker 2: We are a bit of a weekend edition of Morning Run.
Speaker 2: If you listen to our Morning Run, there's so many
Speaker 2: stories that we do report, but there's so much about
Speaker 2: them that we don't get to talk about. So we're
Speaker 2: calling this what got Us. So essentially, Robe was going
Speaker 2: to tell people what got us about a lot of
Speaker 2: stories that we end up reporting. You and I oftentimes
Speaker 2: get into debates behind the scenes that people don't get
Speaker 2: to hear.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: So once we're wrapped with Morning Run, sometimes we continue
Speaker 1: the conversation, going back and forth about what we thought
Speaker 1: about what happened. And so the idea then came to us,
Speaker 1: what if we did a little weekly recap on the
Speaker 1: weekends about what got us? And so here we are
Speaker 1: and we'll just have to see if you all like
Speaker 1: to hear what we have to say. So there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a test, a little bit of an
Speaker 1: experiment to see how many of you are interested in
Speaker 1: what got us?
Speaker 3: And we'll go from there.
Speaker 2: And some of these things got us going, got us
Speaker 2: worked up. Today we got nine stories we're going to
Speaker 2: blaze through for you. Up. First, the pope died, Yes,
Speaker 2: everybody's been watching that, but Robes. What got us about
Speaker 2: the story and continues to get us about it is
Speaker 2: the way the Vatican has really performed the past two
Speaker 2: and a half months.
Speaker 1: Really, I've been impressed because we can remember when we
Speaker 1: were getting the daily updates and we joked that sometimes
Speaker 1: they were only nine words with the update, and there
Speaker 1: was a lot of accusations out there and distrust and
Speaker 1: mistrust in the Catholic Church, saying they weren't being transparent,
Speaker 1: they were hiding things the pope was already dead. Turns
Speaker 1: out the Vatican was being extremely transparent, and in fact,
Speaker 1: we got really detailed information from the Pope's doctors afterwards.
Speaker 1: And I've just been impressed watching them deal with and
Speaker 1: handle the incredible amount of support that folks want to
Speaker 1: give the Pope. They've you know, this is an organization
Speaker 1: that's thought of being mysterious and following the rules it
Speaker 1: all costs. They've kept Saint Peter's Basilica open throughout the night,
Speaker 1: extending hours really and truly being incredibly accommodating to let
Speaker 1: people honor this pope and I've just been impressed given
Speaker 1: what people typically think of the Church and the accusations
Speaker 1: levied against it, and then seeing how they're really extending
Speaker 1: and reaching out to the people in these times.
Speaker 2: I wonder if some of that is in honor of him,
Speaker 2: Maybe some of this is a part of the plans
Speaker 2: he put in place. Who knows, but for two and
Speaker 2: a half months it's been for an organization that's considered secretive.
Speaker 2: I mean, they make movies, blockbusters about how secretive the
Speaker 2: Vatican can be, and look, this is openly. I think
Speaker 2: you were the one that brought to my attention. Originally
Speaker 2: the guys who were trying to break into the hospital
Speaker 2: because they thought the pope was dead. And then after
Speaker 2: they put out an audio, Vatican put out audio of
Speaker 2: his voice, people still said, nope, still don't believe you.
Speaker 2: They put out a picture of him, said nope, can't
Speaker 2: see his face well enough. Right along the way, they
Speaker 2: were doing the best they could, and look, turns out
Speaker 2: they got it right in a lot of ways. And
Speaker 2: you have to give them credit. And I never think
Speaker 2: of them ropes to your point of them being warm
Speaker 2: and fuzzy, correct, right, the Vaticans seeing them. You know what,
Speaker 2: We're gonna stay open all night so everybody can come
Speaker 2: through and see them. That was a that was a
Speaker 2: warmth to that gesture that I appreciate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't get once they had set the
Speaker 1: hours and decided, wow, look there are so many more
Speaker 1: people who have been waiting in line and want to
Speaker 1: see and pay their respects to the pope's body. I
Speaker 1: was so I thought it was so cool. They said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay open as long as there are people
Speaker 1: in line, and if we have to close it, it's just
Speaker 1: literally to clean it and we'll open the doors back
Speaker 1: up again.
Speaker 3: That was really cool to see.
Speaker 2: All Right. Our second story we got on this weekend
Speaker 2: rap now is the h has to do with the
Speaker 2: pope as well. Conclave. You might have seen Mike could
Speaker 2: assume that, yes, it makes sense. Conclave the movie that
Speaker 2: was just all the buzz anyway, because it had the
Speaker 2: big oscar run. It was nominated like eight or nine nominations,
Speaker 2: but it was a darling during this whole season, right
Speaker 2: of the award season. So sure enough, the Pontiff gets sick,
Speaker 2: no surprise, people started watching it more and more so
Speaker 2: the viewership went up after his death. But Robes what
Speaker 2: got us was just how much it went up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the number? Two hundred and something.
Speaker 2: Percent and eighty three percent.
Speaker 1: But again, and I think it's cool because people are interested.
Speaker 1: They're interested in the process, they're interested in the inner
Speaker 1: workings of the Catholic Church, and we are going to
Speaker 1: be seeing a conclave, and for some people it might
Speaker 1: be the first time they've actually paid attention to it
Speaker 1: because of the movie. So I think it's pretty cool
Speaker 1: when you have and this is a phenomenal movie. It's
Speaker 1: done so well, it's written so well, the acting is incredible.
Speaker 2: Have we watched it in the past couple of days?
Speaker 1: Think, well, we've had it in the background, But it's
Speaker 1: played at least three.
Speaker 3: Times, perhaps since the pote passed, and.
Speaker 1: We keep seeing things we haven't seen before and have
Speaker 1: been we I like it even more now than I
Speaker 1: did the first time I watched it.
Speaker 2: But part of this my fast nation goes up about
Speaker 2: the conclave. It's such a secretive vote, might be the
Speaker 2: most secretive thing that goes on as far as voting
Speaker 2: in the world. But my fascination now is after watching
Speaker 2: the movie and they kind of humanize the cardinals because
Speaker 2: initially or in the years past, of course they're men.
Speaker 2: They're flawed people, but you still think of them in
Speaker 2: some place as a this is a higher calling that
Speaker 2: they could be above pettiness. But the movie kind of
Speaker 2: shows they're just a bunch of high school girls fighting
Speaker 2: over popularity, almost and it gets vicious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or a bunch of there's that one way to
Speaker 1: put it. Or a bunch of US politicians vying for
Speaker 1: the top job of president might not get that ugly.
Speaker 1: But certainly there's wheeling and dealing behind the scenes, and
Speaker 1: people are creating voting blocks and pitching themselves. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's all going on because you're right, these are men.
Speaker 1: They aren't deities. They aren't above human flaws, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: they're there is the same kind of politicking going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that we see oftentimes in politics.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they want this job. It's got to be
Speaker 2: the most impossible job to get. I mean, it's easier.
Speaker 2: I know we've had fewer presidents in the US, we're
Speaker 2: a younger country anyway, but I'm saying it seems like
Speaker 2: it would be more difficult. Your chances of getting that
Speaker 2: job are less than becoming president of the United States.
Speaker 2: So all these they know they're in there. They want it.
Speaker 2: If they say it or not, it's just in us all.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you want to of course you want it? Don't
Speaker 2: They say that in the movie when you say it
Speaker 2: to the guy, don't you want to be pope? He
Speaker 2: says no. He said, Look, every single one of us
Speaker 2: had already picked out a name.
Speaker 3: Yes, Stanley Tucci said that. Stanley Tucci's character says that, yes,
Speaker 3: that has.
Speaker 2: Been fascinating about why but yes, up two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty three percent. The conclave viewership story number three here,
Speaker 2: also in line with this having to do with the conclave,
Speaker 2: there is one if you saw the headline, there is
Speaker 2: one cardinal who says he has a vote. To write
Speaker 2: he has the right to vote for pope. The Vatican
Speaker 2: says he doesn't. Giovanni Angelo Bechu is the name. And
Speaker 2: what got us about this story is that this is
Speaker 2: even possible that there is a cardinal who could be
Speaker 2: banging on the door saying let me in. And there's
Speaker 2: an argument public now about whether or not he has
Speaker 2: access and has the right.
Speaker 1: To vote for pope, and publicly he has said he
Speaker 1: is going to because he doesn't see anywhere in Vatican
Speaker 1: doctrine or laws that he cannot vote. Look, he was
Speaker 1: convicted of a financial crime. He was sentenced to five
Speaker 1: years in jail, So this is serious and it's on appeal.
Speaker 1: So there's the asterisk, and so yes, or he has
Speaker 1: continued to live in the Vatican. He's been able to
Speaker 1: keep his apartment while his case is still on appeal.
Speaker 1: So while his case is still on appeal, does he
Speaker 1: get to vote for pope? The Vatican says no. Cardinal
Speaker 1: Bechu says yes, can't wait for this showdown, Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: this will be something we will continue to follow because
Speaker 1: we're fascinated by who wins in this one.
Speaker 2: This kind of plays out in Conclave as well. If
Speaker 2: you've seen the movie, you know. But there's one point
Speaker 2: the guy comes to ray Fines, who was running the conclave,
Speaker 2: and says, hey, we got a problem. And ray Fines thought,
Speaker 2: oh my god, did one of them die. We've lost
Speaker 2: a cardinal. And the guy says, no, we've actually gained
Speaker 2: one that.
Speaker 3: We didn't know we had.
Speaker 2: We didn't know we had so he said, no, we
Speaker 2: must have been left off the list. He said no,
Speaker 2: he was never supposed to be on the list. We
Speaker 2: don't know to think that something like that is actually
Speaker 2: playing out to where there's an argument over whether or
Speaker 2: not you're supposed to be let in the room. I
Speaker 2: loved it. I would love to see him fight for this.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to at least it sounds like
Speaker 3: he was going.
Speaker 2: To the Cardinal bets you we'll see that plays out.
Speaker 2: Our story number four back here in the US had
Speaker 2: to do with the presidents suggesting he was in support
Speaker 2: of the idea of giving women who have babies a
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars baby bonus. That was the headline. What
Speaker 2: got me Robes about this story is how much against it.
Speaker 2: Initially he were at the sound of it.
Speaker 1: Because yes, I thought it was I What got me
Speaker 1: was how gross that seemed that I'm going to get
Speaker 1: a presidential push present.
Speaker 3: I was like, that is just weird to me.
Speaker 1: So, you know, incentivizing women or families to have more babies. Look,
Speaker 1: I understand that there's a reason why he wants to
Speaker 1: get the nation's declining birth rate up, but I think
Speaker 1: there's a huge argument to be made that population control
Speaker 1: also is an important part of moving forward. We are
Speaker 1: you know, already exhausting Earth's resources? Do we really want
Speaker 1: to start paying people to have more babies so we
Speaker 1: can have more Americans.
Speaker 3: In the world. There's just a part of me that
Speaker 3: just is you to the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't know if this is going to happen
Speaker 2: or not, but at least he didn't poopoo it, and
Speaker 2: that's going to get a lot of people. I initially heard,
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking in the way you do as a woman,
Speaker 2: and I didn't even know what a push present was.
Speaker 2: But when I first heard, I'm like, oh, well, yes,
Speaker 2: after going through that, why wouldn't you get that would
Speaker 2: be nice, wouldn't it to just a nice little something
Speaker 2: for having a baby? That's okay? And you turned me
Speaker 2: around pretty quick.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and by the way, I've never received a
Speaker 1: push present. I've just I know other people who have
Speaker 1: gotten one. So and it is a thing, and it's
Speaker 1: become a bigger thing. And the husband's typically or the
Speaker 1: baby daddy like that is traditionally what would.
Speaker 2: Be not from a friend or family, specifically from the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks thanks sweetheart for pushing out this baby. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: actually that is what it's supposed to be and and
Speaker 1: a lot of women are very excited to get one,
Speaker 1: like we're talking jewelry, uh.
Speaker 3: Et cetera.
Speaker 1: The whole thing seems a little strange to me, but
Speaker 1: to each there.
Speaker 2: Out Okay, story number five here as I do with
Speaker 2: the Defense Secretary Pete Hexth, it came to light this
Speaker 2: week that he actually was texting war plans in a
Speaker 2: second group text we didn't know about, but this one
Speaker 2: included his brother and his wife. That was the headline.
Speaker 2: What got us about this story is the debate about relationships.
Speaker 2: How much are you supposed to tell your spouse now
Speaker 2: when it comes to top secret information. I would assume
Speaker 2: it's supposed to stop there. But don't people always if
Speaker 2: your best friend tells you something, don't they assume you
Speaker 2: would go home and probably tell your spouse or no?
Speaker 1: Yes, I always assume that whoever I tell something to,
Speaker 1: especially if it's a woman, that she's going to tell
Speaker 1: her husband. Now, if there is something that is very
Speaker 1: sacred between us that I don't want her to tell
Speaker 1: her husband or her partner, I will say, please, please,
Speaker 1: please don't. I'm sorry to ask you this because I
Speaker 1: know it's really hard not to tell your partner, but
Speaker 1: i'd really ask you not to tell him. Can you
Speaker 1: trust that because my mom told me this, and I
Speaker 1: believe this is true. Everybody always tells one person. You
Speaker 1: can say, oh, I swear I won't tell anyone, and
Speaker 1: everybody always tells one person. And with that in mind,
Speaker 1: about twenty people end up knowing because everybody, especially if.
Speaker 3: It's juicy and topsycred information.
Speaker 1: Look, I get it why you would want to include
Speaker 1: your wife, just she's your partner, but maybe don't text it, like,
Speaker 1: maybe just talk about it when you get home.
Speaker 2: My next question is that still wrong? Though? If you're
Speaker 2: in possession of that type of sensitive information, should it
Speaker 2: not be understood that Okay, maybe you don't have clearance.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: But I even think maybe if he waited until he
Speaker 1: got home and said, man, you wouldn't believe what happened today.
Speaker 3: You know, we bombed.
Speaker 2: But that's after the fact, whenever exactly.
Speaker 3: So that was my point.
Speaker 1: So it's after the fact that he could talk about
Speaker 1: what it was like and how it felt and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: But to give real time sensitive war plan information to
Speaker 1: your spouse on a text, I just think, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's defensible, well defendable.
Speaker 2: Defending it, of course, saying there was nothing that was
Speaker 2: top secret in that blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But that was you get home.
Speaker 2: But that was the first thing that jumped out at me, like, Wow,
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what I would not tell you.
Speaker 2: I don't. I really don't. Just I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't have necessarily friends. We are telling me big enough
Speaker 2: secrets that I think I think you would know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what I'm talking about is a girlfriend
Speaker 1: of mine will want to say something about her husband
Speaker 1: or her don't tell your partner because then your partner
Speaker 1: might tell my partner that I'm talking like. It's that
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. We're not talking about highly sensitive information.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, We're gonna get to the last four
Speaker 2: stories when we come back. Stay with us, because up
Speaker 2: next another one that got us going on a kind
Speaker 2: of a relationship front christin nom how does her purse
Speaker 2: get stolen from a restaurant? She is the head of
Speaker 2: homeland Security. Also coming up, Wendy's tried to smooth things
Speaker 2: over with Katy Perry sixty minutes guy he quit. That
Speaker 2: just doesn't happen. And then there was a hug in
Speaker 2: Texas that had us crying all morning this week Welcome back, folks.
Speaker 2: Story number six for us on this weekend rap has
Speaker 2: to do with Christian Yes, the Homeland Security Secretary was
Speaker 2: out at dinner this week, had her purse stolen. That's
Speaker 2: the headline, including her badge, her house keys, checks. They
Speaker 2: said three thousand dollars in cash. That was the headline.
Speaker 2: What got us robes about this was pretty clear and
Speaker 2: maybe this was yes everybody. This should have gotten everybody
Speaker 2: going yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, how so when we got the details because
Speaker 1: we weren't sure how a masked white man was able
Speaker 1: to get her purse. It was under her chair. Now
Speaker 1: my mind is blown because you and I I mean,
Speaker 1: you are a stickler. Your head is on a swivel,
Speaker 1: as you like to say. You're always kind of looking
Speaker 1: and it's not your job. You're not a secret service agent.
Speaker 1: You're just my partner, and you're always looking after my purse,
Speaker 1: my phone, moving it closer. And we even had a
Speaker 1: situation in Rome where we and you saw a woman
Speaker 1: with her foot sit next to us and try to
Speaker 1: take her toe and pull our bags and steal them,
Speaker 1: and we watched it happen because you were being observant,
Speaker 1: and again we were out having fun on vacation.
Speaker 3: If your sole job as a secret.
Speaker 1: Service agent is to protect the director of Homeland Security
Speaker 1: and her have her in a safe bubble, how does
Speaker 1: this happen? If that's your one job when you're there
Speaker 1: at that restaurant, to be observing and making sure that
Speaker 1: she is safe, and I would imagine her belongings are safe,
Speaker 1: especially when you have a top clearance badge in that purse.
Speaker 1: How in the world does that happen?
Speaker 2: You just maybe think of something else now, the other
Speaker 2: part of it, for somebody to get that close. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize that the head of Homeland Security would be
Speaker 2: in a restaurant, a public restaurant, and someone is sitting
Speaker 2: physically close enough to her that they can slide their
Speaker 2: foot under her table. I didn't think about that until
Speaker 2: this moment. I mean, to everything you said that was
Speaker 2: the thing she protects the homeland. I can't protect her purse.
Speaker 2: That's that seems I mean, maybe clearly missing something, some
Speaker 2: little detail. Not trying to get These secret surface guys
Speaker 2: do heroic work. Every single day. Obviously, it's just bizarre
Speaker 2: that nobody in that group noticed anything like that.
Speaker 3: I think it's above bizarre.
Speaker 1: I think it's alarming and concerning, and I know that.
Speaker 3: I hope that lessons were learned.
Speaker 1: I guess at this point, like, if it happens to
Speaker 1: you once, I've had it happen to me. Actually in
Speaker 1: DC at a restaurant, I happened to be reading The
Speaker 1: New York Times and saw something underneath my foot and
Speaker 1: there was a woman on all fours literally she had
Speaker 1: my wallet in her hand.
Speaker 3: She was lifting it out of my purse. So it happens.
Speaker 2: What did did Joe make eye contact them?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I said, each other.
Speaker 3: Wall drop my wallet. Now.
Speaker 1: She threw it at me and ran out of the
Speaker 1: restaurant as fast as she could.
Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't it happen if I were I know? All right,
Speaker 2: I'm the next door here at number seven. Wendy's and
Speaker 2: Katie What the hell? The headline said that Wendy's was
Speaker 2: trying to smooth things over with Katy Perry. Of course,
Speaker 2: she went to Space Blue Origin that celebrity ride with
Speaker 2: those other women, and she came back down. Everything was fine,
Speaker 2: But then Wendy's responding to somebody's tweet about Katy Perry
Speaker 2: being back on Earth. They responded, can we send her back?
Speaker 2: Everybody looked like, what is your beef with Katy Perry?
Speaker 2: But they came back later and put out a statement
Speaker 2: saying that they very much respect her and her talents.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can say that.
Speaker 2: They didn't apologize it.
Speaker 1: They didn't apologize, but I don't think you can say
Speaker 1: that and have tweeted what they did, or at least
Speaker 1: put the comments that they did, because it wasn't just one.
Speaker 1: There were two others that were equally I'm sorry, mean spirited.
Speaker 2: Well, and I kissed the ground and I liked it,
Speaker 2: and the other one was meaner.
Speaker 1: I kissed the ground and I liked it, wasn't terrible,
Speaker 1: but the other one was. It was something also equally mean,
Speaker 1: And I just feel like I maybe i'm and we
Speaker 1: are more sensitive to it, having been in a space
Speaker 1: where we had negative headlines and have obviously lots of
Speaker 1: negative comments. I just don't understand, and I don't like
Speaker 1: the idea that they're capitalizing or getting free publicity by
Speaker 1: being mean spirited or by being snarky to the point
Speaker 1: that it's just completely unnecessary, Like, what did Katy Perry
Speaker 1: ever do to Wendy's Probably nothing, and so it's just
Speaker 1: to me, it's an attempt. It's a deliberate attempt to
Speaker 1: get attention, to get people talking about your brand, which
Speaker 1: we are, but at the expense of another human being.
Speaker 1: And even though Katy Perry is a superstar, a pop
Speaker 1: star and now yes an astronaut, whether people want to
Speaker 1: debate that or not to use her and what she
Speaker 1: just did for your gain by throwing your under the bus,
Speaker 1: I'm never going to support that and it makes me
Speaker 1: not want to go to Wendy.
Speaker 2: Are we taking it too seriously? Were they just doing
Speaker 2: what you said, getting a little attention, being a little
Speaker 2: snarky and trying to do something a little edgy. And
Speaker 2: some companies are doing this now, trying to have kind
Speaker 2: of an edgy social media accounts. Fine, should we all
Speaker 2: just take a joke?
Speaker 1: Well, I think if everyone jumps on that bandwagon, we're
Speaker 1: in a really ugly world at the expense of people's feelings,
Speaker 1: and people still have feelings.
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are, it's still hurts a
Speaker 3: little and I get.
Speaker 2: It is taking a joke. It's just a joke to
Speaker 2: be able to take someone back, to send it back.
Speaker 2: It didn't mean it for real. I mean, what is it?
Speaker 2: Just a little joke, a little quip, and we should
Speaker 2: not take it so serious. If it would me now,
Speaker 2: I would hate it truly.
Speaker 3: Off of course, I would feel sick to my stomach.
Speaker 2: Actually, a brand that big getting that attention. Other question,
Speaker 2: is it turning anybody off to Wendy's.
Speaker 3: It's turning me off to Wendy's.
Speaker 2: Just wine, but you weren't. It's too hard.
Speaker 1: I love Okay, I don't eat I don't eat best
Speaker 1: food very often, but I do love a Wendy single
Speaker 1: and they're.
Speaker 3: Spicy, crispy chicken sandwich. I do and I have.
Speaker 1: But honestly, the truth is, and people can disagree with me,
Speaker 1: but if I have a choice, I will think about
Speaker 1: that and I would make a decision not to choose
Speaker 1: Wendy's because I just, especially with everything that we have
Speaker 1: experienced in the last years, I am much more sensitive
Speaker 1: to means spirited.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's out there, it's marketing campaign this kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff, And I'm with you. You're more passionate and making
Speaker 2: the argument here We've talked about it plenty, but it
Speaker 2: just she had a nice moment. I mean, she put
Speaker 2: herself out there for criticism with her music, with whatever
Speaker 2: she does, and that is fine. We just it felt
Speaker 2: it was too intentional to make a campaign that they've
Speaker 2: made a mockery of her for the sake of getting attention.
Speaker 3: Now that's what I don't like.
Speaker 2: I'm asking if the attention for them. It doesn't work
Speaker 2: for them because now people are talking about and that's
Speaker 2: good enough. Maybe this is a huge success for them.
Speaker 2: That scares the shit out of me because that means
Speaker 2: they'll do it the next time. Exactly, they do it
Speaker 2: the next time to the next person in the next person.
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, next up, all right, Story number eight here sixty minutes,
Speaker 2: just lost as executive producer Bill Owen owens again bill
Speaker 2: Owens quit. What got us about the story Robes is
Speaker 2: that this is a scary direction we are going in
Speaker 2: this industry that we have spent our entire career and
Speaker 2: we love because it's this show, the most popular news
Speaker 2: show on TV, the most respected probably on TV. If
Speaker 2: the guy at the top just says I'm done because
Speaker 2: too many maybe political hands and things are being done
Speaker 2: and I can't do my job. That's scary at hell.
Speaker 1: It is because I won't speak for you, TJ, but
Speaker 1: I will speak for myself when I say that as
Speaker 1: a journalist you get to a certain level. We understand
Speaker 1: that television networks are businesses and they have to be
Speaker 1: profitable and they have to be careful about being sued.
Speaker 1: But it is still our jobs as journalists to be
Speaker 1: able to tell stories in the way they're supposed to
Speaker 1: be told, to tell stories that need to be told,
Speaker 1: and to not shy away from stories that might piss
Speaker 1: off important, big people, because those are probably some of
Speaker 1: the most important stories to tell.
Speaker 3: I've had the experience of having stories shelves. I have
Speaker 3: had the experience of.
Speaker 1: Not being able to report stories that are actually super important,
Speaker 1: and it made me want to quit the industry as well.
Speaker 3: I didn't have the balls to do that.
Speaker 1: So my hat's off to Bill Owens to have the
Speaker 1: wherewithal to say I'm quitting. And just for perspective, in
Speaker 1: almost sixty years the show has been on the air,
Speaker 1: there have only been three executive producers. The point being,
Speaker 1: when you get a job like that at sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: You don't leave, you don't quit. It's what you've worked
Speaker 1: your entire career for. So for him to do that,
Speaker 1: that is a huge statement.
Speaker 2: You've been in the business long enough. We've all been there.
Speaker 2: A story has been shelved, it has been changed, something
Speaker 2: has been edited. Someone comes in after the fact, oftentimes
Speaker 2: after the reporter us gets done with it. It's happened plenty
Speaker 2: of times and does something because they're trying to protect
Speaker 2: this interest or that interest. Look for us to act
Speaker 2: like that doesn't happen day in, day out, every single morning,
Speaker 2: it absolutely does. My thing that scared me here is
Speaker 2: that this show is too if enough hands. I'm sure
Speaker 2: he's used to executives here and there saying tweak this,
Speaker 2: or do this, or can't you suggest this? But he's
Speaker 2: had some degree of autonomy. If it is that bad
Speaker 2: that he quit, then I think there's some part of
Speaker 2: something going on behind the scenes that we haven't heard yet.
Speaker 2: This is too important of a show, This is too
Speaker 2: big of a deal to where it's that bad that
Speaker 2: he had to quit. I'm not talking I've had stories
Speaker 2: moved to different days because it goes with this lead
Speaker 2: in better We're talking about that's not what we're talking.
Speaker 2: But still those are decisions based on business, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: I've had story. Nope, we're not gonna do that because
Speaker 2: the audience that's work watching at this time is an
Speaker 2: audience between this age and this age and this demograph.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's a business decision, good story, but for business,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna do it. That's still I've never I'm
Speaker 2: gonna quit my job.
Speaker 1: Well, critical stories about people who need to be examined
Speaker 1: and need to be questioned. When those stories are shelves,
Speaker 1: When those types of people who have incredible power and
Speaker 1: we aren't allowed to have critical stories about them that
Speaker 1: actually need to be told, that's scary.
Speaker 2: See, I just don't know. I would love to hear
Speaker 2: from this guy to know what really prompted. And this
Speaker 2: couldn't have been overnight. Has had to be boiling for
Speaker 2: a little while. So the last story that really got
Speaker 2: us this week, if you haven't seen the twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: massacre to Walmart and El Paso, that racist massacre. Man
Speaker 2: went in and shot up that Walmart.
Speaker 3: Twenty three, twenty four people were killed.
Speaker 2: I believe in that. Well, he has been found guilty
Speaker 2: down in Texas and this week for a couple of
Speaker 2: days they had victim impact statements. Family members got to
Speaker 2: get up and speak. But what got us Robes about
Speaker 2: this story and had us in tears one morning as
Speaker 2: we were reporting it was that one of the people
Speaker 2: that got up she lost her brother. This killer shot
Speaker 2: and killed her brother. And Yolanda Tina Harrow is her name.
Speaker 2: She asked the judge if she could go hug the
Speaker 2: guy who killed her brother, and the judge said, okay.
Speaker 1: You know, the phrase killing someone with kindness kind of
Speaker 1: popped into my head. And she had the best of intentions.
Speaker 1: But to have a heart so big that she was
Speaker 1: able and knew the power of her love and the
Speaker 1: power of her forgiveness might be and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: the biggest punishment, but perhaps made this guy. We can
Speaker 1: only hope this killer feel the weight of his decisions
Speaker 1: and instead show him that there is so much good
Speaker 1: in the world, there is so much love in the world,
Speaker 1: that someone like Yolanda could rise above the pain and
Speaker 1: the anger she has to have inside of her for
Speaker 1: what this man took away from her family and from
Speaker 1: her and to be able to rise above that and
Speaker 1: hug him so that he could feel the love of her, her,
Speaker 1: the love from the Hispanic community. She talked about how
Speaker 1: if he had just given the Hispanic community a chance,
Speaker 1: they would have opened their doors to him, they would
Speaker 1: have made a meal for him, just to show him
Speaker 1: how wrong he was about a community that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: he chose to target.
Speaker 2: What was it, she said, Well, and the scene went
Speaker 2: on for a while, it was like a full minute.
Speaker 2: But he wasn't stand office. She by all reports, kind
Speaker 2: of leaned into her, put his head even down on her,
Speaker 2: and she was whispering to her to him. Don't know
Speaker 2: what she said. I just she said, pain and forgiveness.
Speaker 2: She wanted him to feel both of those things in
Speaker 2: her physical body. I want you to feel both of those.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how she did it, but she
Speaker 2: set such an example for all of us about kind.
Speaker 2: That's just not something I think I'm capable of.
Speaker 1: I think when I think about someone taking the life
Speaker 1: of a family member of mine, I think of wanting
Speaker 1: to do the opposite. I think of wanting to punch them,
Speaker 1: tackle them, hit them, shoot them, like that's the kind
Speaker 1: of anger you feel. So for her to be able
Speaker 1: to harness that pain and turn it into something loving.
Speaker 1: I am blown.
Speaker 2: Away, you know, and it's They've had several years to heal,
Speaker 2: but it has it's not done because this was a
Speaker 2: big part of some finality to this story. So I'm
Speaker 2: sure she's that the family has had time to heal
Speaker 2: in a certain way, but going through this trial, all
Speaker 2: those wounds open back up.
Speaker 1: And to see his face, Yeah, I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: like to see him, to see his face.
Speaker 3: The anger you would feel.
Speaker 1: I cannot, for the life of me, I don't know
Speaker 1: that I could get to where she is, but man,
Speaker 1: that is something to aspire to. And just you know
Speaker 1: what I was thinking, in the ways, in the little
Speaker 1: ways that life irritates you, that people irritate you, that
Speaker 1: someone a stranger or a loved one annoys you. If
Speaker 1: you can just take a little bit of what Yolanda
Speaker 1: had in her heart and think about that and change
Speaker 1: your brain and choose love and acceptance and tolerance at
Speaker 1: least at the very least above that anger or that frustration,
Speaker 1: that's something to take with all of us into the weekend.
Speaker 2: So with that, I want to say thank you to
Speaker 2: Yolanda Tinnehero. It's been a rough news week in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways, but she gave us absolute hope or
Speaker 2: reason to smile and had us shedding a few tears.
Speaker 2: But that feels good sometimes too, So we always appreciate
Speaker 2: you all running with us, hanging with us, listening to us.
Speaker 2: We sure thank you. And again, we're putting this up
Speaker 2: because there has been interests we have seen on weekend,
Speaker 2: so we decided to maybe we'll give you something fresh
Speaker 2: and some new fresh perspectives on something we've been reporting
Speaker 2: on this week. So we're going to try it out
Speaker 2: for now.
Speaker 3: But I'm DJ and I'm Amy Roebock.
Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend, everybody,