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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, folks, and welcome. We are trying something new.

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Speaker 2: We are a bit of a weekend edition of Morning Run.

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Speaker 2: If you listen to our Morning Run, there's so many

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Speaker 2: stories that we do report, but there's so much about

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Speaker 2: them that we don't get to talk about. So we're

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Speaker 2: calling this what got Us. So essentially, Robe was going

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Speaker 2: to tell people what got us about a lot of

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Speaker 2: stories that we end up reporting. You and I oftentimes

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Speaker 2: get into debates behind the scenes that people don't get

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Speaker 2: to hear.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: So once we're wrapped with Morning Run, sometimes we continue

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Speaker 1: the conversation, going back and forth about what we thought

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Speaker 1: about what happened. And so the idea then came to us,

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Speaker 1: what if we did a little weekly recap on the

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Speaker 1: weekends about what got us? And so here we are

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Speaker 1: and we'll just have to see if you all like

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Speaker 1: to hear what we have to say. So there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a test, a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: experiment to see how many of you are interested in

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Speaker 1: what got us?

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Speaker 3: And we'll go from there.

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Speaker 2: And some of these things got us going, got us

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Speaker 2: worked up. Today we got nine stories we're going to

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Speaker 2: blaze through for you. Up. First, the pope died, Yes,

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Speaker 2: everybody's been watching that, but Robes. What got us about

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Speaker 2: the story and continues to get us about it is

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Speaker 2: the way the Vatican has really performed the past two

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Speaker 1: Really, I've been impressed because we can remember when we

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Speaker 1: were getting the daily updates and we joked that sometimes

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Speaker 1: they were only nine words with the update, and there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of accusations out there and distrust and

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Speaker 1: mistrust in the Catholic Church, saying they weren't being transparent,

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Speaker 1: they were hiding things the pope was already dead. Turns

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Speaker 1: And I've just been impressed watching them deal with and

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Speaker 1: handle the incredible amount of support that folks want to

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Speaker 1: give the Pope. They've you know, this is an organization

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Speaker 1: all costs. They've kept Saint Peter's Basilica open throughout the night,

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Speaker 1: extending hours really and truly being incredibly accommodating to let

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Speaker 1: people honor this pope and I've just been impressed given

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Speaker 2: I wonder if some of that is in honor of him,

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Speaker 2: Maybe some of this is a part of the plans

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Speaker 2: a half months it's been for an organization that's considered secretive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they make movies, blockbusters about how secretive the

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Speaker 2: you were the one that brought to my attention. Originally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't get once they had set the

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Speaker 2: pope as well. Conclave. You might have seen Mike could

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Speaker 1: But again, and I think it's cool because people are interested.

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Speaker 1: We keep seeing things we haven't seen before and have

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Speaker 2: they could be above pettiness. But the movie kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or a bunch of there's that one way to

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Speaker 1: But certainly there's wheeling and dealing behind the scenes, and

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Speaker 1: that's all going on because you're right, these are men.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they want this job. It's got to be

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Speaker 2: So all these they know they're in there. They want it.

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Speaker 2: Been fascinating about why but yes, up two hundred and

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Speaker 1: To vote for pope, and publicly he has said he

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Speaker 2: This kind of plays out in Conclave as well. If

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Speaker 2: Our story number four back here in the US had

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Speaker 1: Because yes, I thought it was I What got me

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Speaker 1: So, you know, incentivizing women or families to have more babies. Look,

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Speaker 1: you know, already exhausting Earth's resources? Do we really want

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Speaker 3: In the world. There's just a part of me that

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Speaker 3: just is you to the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't know if this is going to happen

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Speaker 2: or not, but at least he didn't poopoo it, and

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Speaker 2: that's going to get a lot of people. I initially heard,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking in the way you do as a woman,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't even know what a push present was.

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Speaker 2: after going through that, why wouldn't you get that would

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Speaker 2: be nice, wouldn't it to just a nice little something

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Speaker 2: for having a baby? That's okay? And you turned me

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and by the way, I've never received a

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Speaker 1: push present. I've just I know other people who have

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Speaker 2: You just maybe think of something else now, the other

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Speaker 3: I think it's above bizarre.

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Speaker 1: I guess at this point, like, if it happens to

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Speaker 3: She was lifting it out of my purse. So it happens.

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Speaker 2: What did did Joe make eye contact them?

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Speaker 2: I said, each other.

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Speaker 3: Wall drop my wallet. Now.

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Speaker 1: She threw it at me and ran out of the

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Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't it happen if I were I know? All right,

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Speaker 2: I'm the next door here at number seven. Wendy's and

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Speaker 2: Katie What the hell? The headline said that Wendy's was

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Speaker 2: But then Wendy's responding to somebody's tweet about Katy Perry

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Speaker 2: Everybody looked like, what is your beef with Katy Perry?

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Speaker 2: Well, and I kissed the ground and I liked it,

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Speaker 1: And even though Katy Perry is a superstar, a pop

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to support that and it makes me

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Speaker 2: Are we taking it too seriously? Were they just doing

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Speaker 1: Well, I think if everyone jumps on that bandwagon, we're

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Speaker 2: It is taking a joke. It's just a joke to

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Speaker 2: Just a little joke, a little quip, and we should

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Speaker 3: Off of course, I would feel sick to my stomach.

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Speaker 2: Actually, a brand that big getting that attention. Other question,

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Speaker 2: Just wine, but you weren't. It's too hard.

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Speaker 1: I love Okay, I don't eat I don't eat best

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Speaker 1: But honestly, the truth is, and people can disagree with me,

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Speaker 3: Now that's what I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I'm asking if the attention for them. It doesn't work

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Speaker 2: That scares the shit out of me because that means

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Speaker 2: they'll do it the next time. Exactly, they do it

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Speaker 2: Okay, next up, all right, Story number eight here sixty minutes,

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Speaker 2: just lost as executive producer Bill Owen owens again bill

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Speaker 2: Owens quit. What got us about the story Robes is

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Speaker 2: that this is a scary direction we are going in

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Speaker 2: this industry that we have spent our entire career and

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Speaker 2: we love because it's this show, the most popular news

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Speaker 2: show on TV, the most respected probably on TV. If

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Speaker 2: the guy at the top just says I'm done because

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Speaker 2: too many maybe political hands and things are being done

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Speaker 2: and I can't do my job. That's scary at hell.

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Speaker 1: It is because I won't speak for you, TJ, but

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Speaker 1: I will speak for myself when I say that as

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Speaker 1: a journalist you get to a certain level. We understand

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Speaker 1: that television networks are businesses and they have to be

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Speaker 1: profitable and they have to be careful about being sued.

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Speaker 1: But it is still our jobs as journalists to be

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Speaker 1: able to tell stories in the way they're supposed to

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Speaker 1: be told, to tell stories that need to be told,

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Speaker 1: and to not shy away from stories that might piss

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Speaker 1: off important, big people, because those are probably some of

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Speaker 1: the most important stories to tell.

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Speaker 3: I've had the experience of having stories shelves. I have

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Speaker 3: had the experience of.

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Speaker 1: Not being able to report stories that are actually super important,

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Speaker 1: and it made me want to quit the industry as well.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have the balls to do that.

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Speaker 1: So my hat's off to Bill Owens to have the

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Speaker 1: wherewithal to say I'm quitting. And just for perspective, in

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Speaker 1: almost sixty years the show has been on the air,

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Speaker 1: there have only been three executive producers. The point being,

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Speaker 1: when you get a job like that at sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: You don't leave, you don't quit. It's what you've worked

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Speaker 1: your entire career for. So for him to do that,

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Speaker 1: that is a huge statement.

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Speaker 2: You've been in the business long enough. We've all been there.

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Speaker 2: A story has been shelved, it has been changed, something

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Speaker 2: has been edited. Someone comes in after the fact, oftentimes

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Speaker 2: after the reporter us gets done with it. It's happened plenty

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Speaker 2: of times and does something because they're trying to protect

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Speaker 2: this interest or that interest. Look for us to act

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Speaker 2: like that doesn't happen day in, day out, every single morning,

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Speaker 2: it absolutely does. My thing that scared me here is

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Speaker 2: that this show is too if enough hands. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's used to executives here and there saying tweak this,

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Speaker 2: or do this, or can't you suggest this? But he's

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Speaker 2: had some degree of autonomy. If it is that bad

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Speaker 2: that he quit, then I think there's some part of

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Speaker 2: something going on behind the scenes that we haven't heard yet.

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Speaker 2: This is too important of a show, This is too

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Speaker 2: big of a deal to where it's that bad that

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Speaker 2: he had to quit. I'm not talking I've had stories

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Speaker 2: moved to different days because it goes with this lead

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Speaker 2: in better We're talking about that's not what we're talking.

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Speaker 2: But still those are decisions based on business, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I've had story. Nope, we're not gonna do that because

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Speaker 2: the audience that's work watching at this time is an

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Speaker 2: audience between this age and this age and this demograph.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, that's a business decision, good story, but for business,

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna do it. That's still I've never I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna quit my job.

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Speaker 1: Well, critical stories about people who need to be examined

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Speaker 1: and need to be questioned. When those stories are shelves,

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Speaker 1: When those types of people who have incredible power and

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Speaker 1: we aren't allowed to have critical stories about them that

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Speaker 1: actually need to be told, that's scary.

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Speaker 2: See, I just don't know. I would love to hear

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Speaker 2: from this guy to know what really prompted. And this

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Speaker 2: couldn't have been overnight. Has had to be boiling for

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Speaker 2: a little while. So the last story that really got

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Speaker 2: us this week, if you haven't seen the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: massacre to Walmart and El Paso, that racist massacre. Man

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Speaker 2: went in and shot up that Walmart.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three, twenty four people were killed.

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Speaker 2: I believe in that. Well, he has been found guilty

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Speaker 2: down in Texas and this week for a couple of

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Speaker 2: days they had victim impact statements. Family members got to

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Speaker 2: get up and speak. But what got us Robes about

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Speaker 2: this story and had us in tears one morning as

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Speaker 2: we were reporting it was that one of the people

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Speaker 2: that got up she lost her brother. This killer shot

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Speaker 2: and killed her brother. And Yolanda Tina Harrow is her name.

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Speaker 2: She asked the judge if she could go hug the

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Speaker 2: guy who killed her brother, and the judge said, okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, the phrase killing someone with kindness kind of

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Speaker 1: popped into my head. And she had the best of intentions.

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Speaker 1: But to have a heart so big that she was

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Speaker 1: able and knew the power of her love and the

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Speaker 1: power of her forgiveness might be and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: the biggest punishment, but perhaps made this guy. We can

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Speaker 1: only hope this killer feel the weight of his decisions

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Speaker 1: and instead show him that there is so much good

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Speaker 1: in the world, there is so much love in the world,

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Speaker 1: that someone like Yolanda could rise above the pain and

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Speaker 1: the anger she has to have inside of her for

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Speaker 1: what this man took away from her family and from

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Speaker 1: her and to be able to rise above that and

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Speaker 1: hug him so that he could feel the love of her, her,

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Speaker 1: the love from the Hispanic community. She talked about how

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Speaker 1: if he had just given the Hispanic community a chance,

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Speaker 1: they would have opened their doors to him, they would

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Speaker 1: have made a meal for him, just to show him

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Speaker 1: how wrong he was about a community that, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: he chose to target.

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Speaker 2: What was it, she said, Well, and the scene went

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Speaker 2: on for a while, it was like a full minute.

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Speaker 2: But he wasn't stand office. She by all reports, kind

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Speaker 2: of leaned into her, put his head even down on her,

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Speaker 2: and she was whispering to her to him. Don't know

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Speaker 2: what she said. I just she said, pain and forgiveness.

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Speaker 2: She wanted him to feel both of those things in

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Speaker 2: her physical body. I want you to feel both of those.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how she did it, but she

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Speaker 2: set such an example for all of us about kind.

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Speaker 2: That's just not something I think I'm capable of.

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Speaker 1: I think when I think about someone taking the life

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Speaker 1: of a family member of mine, I think of wanting

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Speaker 1: to do the opposite. I think of wanting to punch them,

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Speaker 1: tackle them, hit them, shoot them, like that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of anger you feel. So for her to be able

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Speaker 1: to harness that pain and turn it into something loving.

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Speaker 1: I am blown.

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Speaker 2: Away, you know, and it's They've had several years to heal,

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Speaker 2: but it has it's not done because this was a

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Speaker 2: big part of some finality to this story. So I'm

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Speaker 2: sure she's that the family has had time to heal

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Speaker 2: in a certain way, but going through this trial, all

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Speaker 2: those wounds open back up.

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Speaker 1: And to see his face, Yeah, I was just thinking,

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Speaker 1: like to see him, to see his face.

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Speaker 3: The anger you would feel.

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Speaker 1: I cannot, for the life of me, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I could get to where she is, but man,

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Speaker 1: that is something to aspire to. And just you know

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking, in the ways, in the little

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Speaker 1: ways that life irritates you, that people irritate you, that

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Speaker 1: someone a stranger or a loved one annoys you. If

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Speaker 1: you can just take a little bit of what Yolanda

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Speaker 1: had in her heart and think about that and change

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Speaker 1: your brain and choose love and acceptance and tolerance at

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Speaker 1: least at the very least above that anger or that frustration,

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Speaker 1: that's something to take with all of us into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So with that, I want to say thank you to

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Speaker 2: Yolanda Tinnehero. It's been a rough news week in a

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Speaker 2: lot of ways, but she gave us absolute hope or

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Speaker 2: reason to smile and had us shedding a few tears.

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Speaker 2: But that feels good sometimes too, So we always appreciate

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Speaker 2: you all running with us, hanging with us, listening to us.

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Speaker 2: We sure thank you. And again, we're putting this up

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Speaker 2: because there has been interests we have seen on weekend,

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Speaker 2: so we decided to maybe we'll give you something fresh

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Speaker 2: and some new fresh perspectives on something we've been reporting

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Speaker 2: on this week. So we're going to try it out

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Speaker 2: for now.

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Speaker 3: But I'm DJ and I'm Amy Roebock.

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Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend, everybody,