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Speaker 1: How are we doing? Happy Tuesday? Hopefully everyone had a

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Speaker 1: good long weekend, enjoyed themselves, saw some family, chilled by

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Speaker 1: It's back. College football is often running obviously the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, as all the coaches and executives often say

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Speaker 1: to make themselves sound smart, can't say NFL. You see

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Speaker 1: the National Football League returns Thursday, so we will dive

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Speaker 1: into some NFL stuff. We still got some holdouts as

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Speaker 1: of recording this podcast, as well as some takes from college.

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Speaker 1: I went on with Colin. I'm sure you guys saw

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Speaker 1: that yesterday. And here's the game plan. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: have a podcast every day this week. Today's a pretty

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Speaker 1: big podcast, yes, as well as with a mailbag at

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Speaker 1: bags this week. I'll probably do a preview pod of

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Speaker 1: just picking the divisions, picking the winners, picking maybe Super

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Speaker 1: have Friday reaction to Thursday night, as well as some

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Speaker 1: football's back. This is what I do talk about football,

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Speaker 1: So why not just do podcasts all the time. That's

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Speaker 1: the game plan. Today's a pretty big one, just because

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Speaker 1: I had a lot to say. And other than that,

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Speaker 1: The NFL's back, Baby, The NFL is back. We are

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Speaker 1: depending on when you listen to this just a couple

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Speaker 1: And we've talked a lot on this podcast about the

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Speaker 1: success of the NFL, about the widening gap of football

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Speaker 1: separating from the other sports. Football is now the NFL, specifically,

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Speaker 1: the number one television show in America. If I would

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Speaker 1: three gambling fantasy. The scarcity of the of the inventory

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Speaker 1: there's nothing like the high of winning. And one thing

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Speaker 1: your offense or your defense. You're just calling defensive plays

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Speaker 1: on third and eight that you typically would call on

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Speaker 1: third and eight. But it's not a schemed look or

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Speaker 1: this entire week starting with Chiefs Lions going into the

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Speaker 1: weekend are schemed ideas now because the new coordinators and

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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, transition in football with both

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Speaker 1: coaches and players, you're taking educated guesses. It's not the

435
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Speaker 1: same as by October, and I got a month of

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Speaker 1: film of knowing what your strengths and weaknesses are and

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Speaker 1: knowing what you like to do. Because it also changes

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Speaker 1: year to year. We know Mahome is going to throw

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Speaker 1: to Kelsey, but like, is Sky more legitimate player this year?

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Speaker 1: Is he an impact guy? Right? Is Isaiah Pochako just

441
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Speaker 1: the same guy? Is he a better version? Right? Or

442
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: are they you know, more running back by committee? You

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Speaker 1: just never know until you see it. And that's to me.

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Speaker 1: Week one is much more in this current kind of

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Speaker 1: setup of the NFL, of a feeling out process, and

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Speaker 1: then by the end of the month you kind of

447
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Speaker 1: get an idea the identity of your team, what you

448
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Speaker 1: might need to work on, what a player that's not

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Speaker 1: living up to the hype that eventually is going to

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Speaker 1: get benched. And you kind of see the transition throughout

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Speaker 1: the season of the starting lineup right because most teams,

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is injuries can happen at any moment.

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Speaker 1: You get guys on the pup, guys coming back. The

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Speaker 1: cool part about Week one is that we just got football.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of knowing a team and knowing what

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Speaker 1: a team's going to look like, good or bad, tell

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Speaker 1: me the Arizona Cardinals. Everyone I've heard everyone say this.

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Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals are going to get worked by Washington.

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Speaker 1: We see all the time a team that ends up winning.

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Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears drafted one overall last year. Obviously they

461
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Speaker 1: traded the pick, but they were the first overall team

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Speaker 1: in the draft order. They won Week one. They beat

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers and Tree Lance. That happened. The

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers won thirteen games and win the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: Harol Let's transition to college football and the story of

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Speaker 1: the weekend is easily Dean Sanders and remarkable game. As

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Speaker 1: I told Colin that that's why football's king. You can't

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Speaker 1: fake that entertainment. I like a little more defense, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to even pretend that that wasn't incredible.

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Speaker 1: That is why football is the number one television show

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Speaker 1: doesn't get any better, and college football is the number

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Speaker 1: two sport in America. Don't ever get that twisted. College

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Speaker 1: football dominates rating wise. There's a huge gap, as we

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Speaker 1: talked about earlier, between the NFL and everyone else. College

475
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Speaker 1: footballs too. In that game. I haven't seen the numbers,

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Speaker 1: but I would imagine they're huge. But Deon Sanders, I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. When I worked for the Eagles, our special

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Speaker 1: teams coach was Bobby April. He's worked in the NFL

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Speaker 1: or work. He's retired now worked in the NFL for decades.

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Speaker 1: His son is currently the defensive coordinator for Stanford. Coached,

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Speaker 1: you know, lastly for Jim Leonard with Wisconsin's linebacker coach.

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Speaker 1: Really good young defensive coach, but his dad was awesome.

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Speaker 1: One of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. And my

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Speaker 1: role when you work internally, you know, maybe they've gotten

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Speaker 1: bigger now, but most of these personnel departments aren't that

486
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Speaker 1: big in house. You get a lot of scouts on

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Speaker 1: the road, so they give you a lot of different roles.

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Speaker 1: And I used to help the special teams coach out

489
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Speaker 1: doing kind of stuff that the position coach doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to do right hang times, jot down numbers who lines

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Speaker 1: up where a week in advance, just make the process

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Speaker 1: easier for him. Once we game play on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 1: And once you start doing that, you end up interacting

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Speaker 1: with the guy a lot. And me and Bobby April

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Speaker 1: used to talk all the time, and then even when

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Speaker 1: I was in radio he became the special teams coach

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Talk to him a lot, and I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget him telling me a story because he used

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Speaker 1: to ask him about different coaches and different players. And

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Speaker 1: he coached in the early nineties for the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: ninety one, ninety two, ninety three, So I used to

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Speaker 1: ask him, like, what was it like coaching Deon Sanders?

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Speaker 1: Because Deon Sanders at the time was one of the

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Speaker 1: bright young stars in the league. This was before he

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Speaker 1: went to the forty nine Ers and the Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: became Super Bowl champ, absolute legend. But he was easily

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Speaker 1: one of, if not the most electric players in the league.

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Speaker 1: And this is at the time when Dion was like

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Speaker 1: on TV NFL network. No one thought that he was

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Speaker 1: going to become some college coach right at Colorado, let

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Speaker 1: alone Jacksonville State, right, jackson State. Excuse me, but Bobby

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Speaker 1: April used to tell me, he's, like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: biggest misconception with Deon Sanders, because he's so loud, he's

514
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Speaker 1: so cocky, and you know, let's face it can rub

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Speaker 1: people the wrong way is he was easily one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite players I've ever coached in my entire career.

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Speaker 1: Not because he was great, obviously, that's always fun coaching

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Speaker 1: great players, but because of how much he cared and

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Speaker 1: because of his work ethic. He said he'd always sit

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Speaker 1: in front of the meetings, he took incredible notes, he'd

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Speaker 1: stay after at practice, and his practice habits were elite.

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine if you just asked a casual fan,

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Speaker 1: what do you think Deon Sanders work ethic like was

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Speaker 1: as a player? I would imagine a lot of people

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Speaker 1: if he just did some poll would be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Dian was so had so many God gifts. It was

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Speaker 1: easy for him just to kind of cruise. Well, it

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Speaker 1: turns out dude had like a Kobe Bryant maniacal desire

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Speaker 1: to be great at football. It's why him and Michael

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Speaker 1: Irvin are such good friends. Right when you talk Mike,

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Speaker 1: when you just bring up Michael Irvin, who's currently getting sued,

532
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: which feels like bullshit, But like his history as a player,

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Speaker 1: you know, Hooker's blow a lot of crazy stuff you

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Speaker 1: ask anyone, And I've been lucky enough to be around

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Speaker 1: people that have played with Michael Irvin. His work ethic

536
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Speaker 1: in practice elite. Like you usually don't get great at anything,

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Speaker 1: whether it's football, whether it's radio, whether it's real estate,

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Speaker 1: whether it's construction. If your work ethic isn't top notch,

539
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Speaker 1: that's typically how you separate. Most people aren't just like

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Speaker 1: naturally gifted to the nth degree at a very competitive industry.

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Speaker 1: Just to maintain that, you have to be a grinder,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta be usually pretty passionate about what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: And the way he described Deon Sanders to me was

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Speaker 1: just the ultimate football guy, Like the way when we

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Speaker 1: describe Brady, or we describe Peyton Manning, or we describe

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Speaker 1: Ray Lewis or now some of the great young players

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Speaker 1: in the league, right they just love football. They're junkies.

548
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Speaker 1: They study it NonStop. They're obsessed. That was Deon Sanders

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Speaker 1: as a player, so when you look at him as

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Speaker 1: a coach. There was a moment in that game against

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Speaker 1: TCU that really jumped out to me is there was

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Speaker 1: a player down I forget, I think it was a

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Speaker 1: TCU guy, and Deon Sanders had come out to talk

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Speaker 1: to the player on the ground, and Sunny Dyke's was

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00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: there as well. And this was the game was well

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Speaker 1: in the bows, like third third quarter, tight game. I forget.

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00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: Colorado might have even had the lead at the time.

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Speaker 1: Obviously TCU came back. It was a back and forth game,

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Speaker 1: and they and Sonny Dikes, who was just literally in

560
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Speaker 1: the National Championship, then kind of hugs them and you

561
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: could tell they're talking. Sonny Dikes and I've met him

562
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Speaker 1: a couple times when he was the coach of cal

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Speaker 1: It's just an old school Texas football guy. His dad

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Speaker 1: was a coach. He's a coach. Just when you see

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Speaker 1: Sonny Diykes, when you talk to Sunny Dykes, Toney Didykes

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Speaker 1: is football football football. Dan can relate to football guys

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Speaker 1: why he's an old school football guy this offseason. Definitely

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Speaker 1: in training camp, but I'm pretty sure they did in

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Speaker 1: spring ball as well. Most of these teams, right in

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Speaker 1: college football and definitely in the pros, there is no

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Speaker 1: tackling to the ground when you scrimmage. In the NFL

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Speaker 1: and at even all the Power five schools, they are

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Speaker 1: doing what's equivalent like thud. And what thud is is

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Speaker 1: like the padded version of two hand touch. You kind

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Speaker 1: of hit, but there's no wrapping up, and you kind

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Speaker 1: of tap him and the guy keeps moving. It's why

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Speaker 1: if you watch if you've never been to a NFL practice,

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Speaker 1: if you've watched NFL Network, there'll be clips of kind

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Speaker 1: of guys colliding in practice and then the running back

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Speaker 1: or the wide receiver of the tight end just keeps

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Speaker 1: on running. You're not tackling the guy to the ground.

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Speaker 1: Right Well, Deon Sanders tackled to the ground. I think

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Speaker 1: we look at Deon Sanders as like this progressive, young

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Speaker 1: hip coach, and obviously when it comes to recruiting, he's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of that. Think who taught him? One

586
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Speaker 1: of the truly great recruiters in the history of sport.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden, that's where he learned from when he played,

588
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Speaker 1: as you know, at Florida State back in whatever the

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Speaker 1: late eighties. So Dion and his personality, he was gonna

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Speaker 1: be a natural recruiter, but I think people looked at

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Speaker 1: him like Ah Corner. One of the things Dion used

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Speaker 1: to say, like, they don't pay me to tackle Deon's

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Speaker 1: I don't even blame him that. He's right, they pay

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Speaker 1: him to cover. But like when I watched Deon Sanders,

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Speaker 1: he actually relates and has much more in common with

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Saban in terms of the way he views football. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously the way they play, they they don't have Georgia

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00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Lsu Florida State's personnel on defense, so for them to

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Speaker 1: be successful, they're gonna have to score points. But I've

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00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: always said this about Lincoln Riley. I question his ethos

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Speaker 1: and his belief how important recruiting defensive players were. I

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00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: watch USC when they were great. That was in my

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Speaker 1: football loving college life, and I watched a team full

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Speaker 1: of NFL players at every fucking position D, line, linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and dB for almost a decade with Pete Carroll, that's

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Speaker 1: what it takes to win Natties. No one else has

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Speaker 1: won a national championship out West because the defense is

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Speaker 1: always a question mark. Dion will value that. I promise

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Speaker 1: you that, right. But the other thing with Dion, when

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Speaker 1: you view him as like this outspoken, he just I

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00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: think on social media he feels very twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to football. He has much more in

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Speaker 1: common with like nineteen ninety three. And I'll promise you this,

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Speaker 1: if you've watched the clips of him addressing the team,

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Speaker 1: he's got that down pat and who other things really

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Speaker 1: stand out to me to be a great head coach.

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Speaker 1: When you are like, he's not gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: the coordinators. Obviously if he was, he'd be the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna be a CEO head coach. Think John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Think Mike Tomlin, think now Nick Saban. But when you

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Speaker 1: are that, you have to hire really well, it's very

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Speaker 1: incumbent on you to hire the right guys. Well he

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00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: got last year. The Kent State head coach left that

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00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: job to become his OC And there were multiple plays

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Speaker 1: in that game. One was in the red zone that

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Speaker 1: led to a touchdown and another on like a third

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Speaker 1: and five that was like, this guy's really scheming it up. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: there were some plays with Shador and Travis Hunter where

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Speaker 1: there was just some like, Hey, our Jimmy's and the

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Speaker 1: Joe's are gonna beat your jimmies in the Joe's. And

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Speaker 1: that's a huge part of college football. For his great

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Speaker 1: as Sabing is, for as great as Kirby Smart is,

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Speaker 1: for as great as that scumbag phony Urban Meyer is,

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Speaker 1: they've always had the great Jimmies and the Joe's as

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00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: well as their ex'es and the o's, and when they

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Speaker 1: get to the biggest moments, they got the better players.

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Speaker 1: So that's a huge part of college football. This is

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Speaker 1: not the NFL, but you still need to be able

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00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: to scheme. You still need to be able to dial

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Speaker 1: it up. And right now I watched Deon Sanders offensive coordinator.

641
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: What a higher and that's happening a lot more now.

642
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Like I say, Bo Baldwin, this guy used to be

643
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator head coach at Eastern Washington, became the

644
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: head coach at cal pauly left that job to become

645
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator at Arizona State. Because it's easier for

646
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: that guy to get a Power five job, not through

647
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: a smaller school, but being the OC at a bigger school.

648
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: And the other thing is Don knows talent like Deon

649
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: knows talent. I would imagine anyone could recruit Travis Hunter, right.

650
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm not not giving him credit for that. You deserve

651
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: credit for establishing the relationship. But every team that's worth

652
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: their salt in the country, Clems in Florida, State, Bama, Georgia,

653
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: you name it, wanted that guy. But I watched a

654
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: bunch of other guys. They had a second wide receiver

655
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: number ten, the little running back that Deon's known forever. Obviously,

656
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: the million dudes they've landed in the transfer portal, like

657
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: Dion and his crew can identify players. They deserve a

658
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: lot of credit for that. And this whole business now

659
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: with this transfer portal evaluation, like landing a guy from

660
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: a smaller school, bringing over a guy like the one

661
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: thing that I thought was kind of stupid, And I

662
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: get why they're saying it, But Dion and Shadoor acting

663
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: like I was just at the HBCU. I'm an HBCU

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Speaker 1: players like go Google Shador's rival dot Com Obviously, he

665
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: was gonna go play for his dad, he would have

666
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: gone to the SEC or Florida State. Like, those are

667
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: the schools that were sniffing around. Now he's clearly better

668
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: anyone that says, like I knew he was gonna be this,

669
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Jackson State bs. People were

670
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: not watching Jackson State. I'm not saying people didn't. I

671
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: watched last year their conference championship game. But on the whole,

672
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: we consume, we just don't consume that level of football.

673
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: That's just the fact that we've all seen the ratings

674
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: right now. You also didn't know how it was gonna

675
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: look once he got to this level, and he was remarkable,

676
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: and Travis Hunter playing seven million plays in that game.

677
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: Those two guys this other notion, and we'll get into

678
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: Florida State here in a second. Colorado was never gonna

679
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: win the national championship. Definitely not this year. Because to

680
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: win a national championship, you have to play defense. It's

681
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: the only way possible. You gotta be able to tackle,

682
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to rush the past, and most

683
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: of the schools in the country, that includes all the

684
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: conferences secs as well, are not great defenses. Right, think

685
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: of who's good at defense in this country. Georgia, Michigan,

686
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: Penn State, Wisconsin has been with Jim Leonard, I always

687
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: had some teams Florida State. You just kind of go around, right,

688
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: But you can win eight to ten games depending on

689
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: your schedule if your defense is average at best, honestly

690
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: a little below average, if your offense is elite. Look

691
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: at TCU. They made the national championship last year because

692
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: they could score points. And TCU is still going to

693
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: win a bunch of games because they can score points.

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Speaker 1: So do I view Colorado as like some playoff contender?

695
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: I know? But do I view them as a team

696
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: that could win nine games? Is it gonna be hard

697
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: for them to physically handle Utah and Oregon one hundred percent?

698
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: But can they beat the overwhelming and even USC? But

699
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: can they beat the other teams? For sure? I mean

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Speaker 1: I expect them to win this week by probably like

701
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: ten fifteen points, because you'd be like, well, kind of

702
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: a letdown spot to Nebraska Boulder. Colorado is gonna look

703
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: like fucking LSU at night, even though it's a ten

704
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: am kickoff. Plate's gonna be bananas because of prime. Prime

705
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: is what we call in business a cash cow. Jim

706
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's that, Saban's that, Kirby Smart's now that Belichick was

707
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: that for twenty years. Andy Reid is that Pete Carroll's

708
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: been that way for Seattle, Kyle Shanahan's that way for

709
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: Jed York, Sean McVay like that is a cash cow.

710
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Deonza winner and winners find ways to win. And I

711
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: think anyone that thinks he's new school, yeah, he has

712
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: some new school identity to him with how active he

713
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: is on social media, but his message, if you watch

714
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: him talk to his team and if you watched the

715
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: clips of him practicing, is very old school. Florida State,

716
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: when I was a GA at Fresno State, we had

717
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: a young student assistant who had tried out for kicker

718
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: and the coach said, listen, you're not going to be

719
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: able to be our kicker, but we would love to

720
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Speaker 1: have you on the staff. And his name was Derreck

721
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: Ray and he went on to be working recruiting and

722
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: end up going to Oregon State for years, most recently

723
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Smith had become a really really highly thought

724
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Speaker 1: of recruiting coordinator in college football. Was purning down quote

725
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: unquote bigger jobs. He loved Jonathan Smith, so do I dude,

726
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: just study? Dude made dj ungle Ay look good. Well.

727
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Last year, the Florida State Seminoles offered him the job

728
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: to be the GM and he took it. And this

729
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: is a guy from the Central Valley, Fresno State, Oregon

730
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: State went to Florida State and I talked to him

731
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: on the phone a couple of weeks ago. I've known

732
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: him now almost fifteen years, and he's like, bro, two

733
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: things we're fucking good. Like we have a squad, are

734
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: these receivers and this receiver we land in the transfer

735
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: portal is the real deal? And he's like our head

736
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: coach who's also our play caller is big time? Are

737
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: him as a play caller? Just watching him last year

738
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: and watching him in practice, this guy's no joke and

739
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: that was on full display. He wasn't lying to me,

740
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: and I didn't think he was lying, But you never know.

741
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: A big game LSU coin flip game. That was a

742
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: clinic And to me, what really stood out, like Derek

743
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: told me, their personnel is big time. They got NFL

744
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: players like LSU everywhere, and that play caller was really,

745
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: really impressive because part of college football is a Jimmy's

746
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: in the Joe's matchup, just like the NFL. But in

747
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: the NFL there's much smaller gap between talent on opposite

748
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: sides of the field. Obviously know a Micah Parsons or

749
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: Trent Williams. I'm not saying there are certain guys, but

750
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: as a whole, as a unit, they were clear to

751
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: fit sees last night, and Norvell took clear advantage of them.

752
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: And I think Florida State that game. Like listen, I

753
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: love TCU Colorado, Like I was glued to my couch

754
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: for whatever three and a half four hours Sunday Night's

755
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: really more my style. I watch like watching NFL players

756
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: on defense flying around crushing people. Herbstreet was even mentioned

757
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: it last night. People were getting crushed absolutely Molly Won.

758
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: I like that, and you just see the body types

759
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: like that guy's an NFL player, that guy's an NFL player.

760
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: But I think Florida State, they got a real squad.

761
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: LSU would be fine, they'll win their nine to ten games,

762
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: but Florida State can win the national championship. They just

763
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: got to get by Clemson. They're now in the driver's seat.

764
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: And anyone if by the time you're listening to this,

765
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't put them number two overall. I got no

766
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: problem leaving Georgia till they lose number one. Back to

767
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: back champs. They've earned it. But if you just watch

768
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: college football over the last three four days, how anyone

769
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: can say Florida State today doesn't mean it can't change.

770
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Is not the second best team in the country. Is

771
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: on some drugs that I'd probably like to get hold

772
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: of because they work pretty they're pretty powerful. A couple

773
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: other things I didn't really get the chance. I saw

774
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: Colin open with this. I you know, he had texted

775
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: some NFL executives and scouts about Shador and you can't

776
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: watch Shador and I think, obviously not just an NFL player,

777
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: but like this is a top five pick. I mean shit,

778
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: if Trey Lance and Zach Wilson go two and three,

779
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Shador could play one game and that could be his

780
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: game and he could easily go top five in the draft.

781
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: But the college quarterback play is elite. I mean, it

782
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: just is. It is fantastic. And the number one thing

783
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: that stood out to me there are so many random

784
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: players quarterbacks all over the NFL They're like, how's this

785
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 1: guy still in the NFL? How did Matt Barkley last

786
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: this long? How did this guy last this long? There's

787
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fat about to be trimmed. I mean,

788
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: there are so many quarterbacks. And I texted a college director.

789
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: I said, how many quarterbacks do you think are going

790
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: to get drafted in the top fifty in this draft?

791
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, six to seven. I'm like,

792
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: what about just the quarterback class as a whole, even underclassmen,

793
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: they aren't draft eligible. He's absolutely loaded. Every other game

794
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: has an NFL quarterback, and not all of them are

795
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: going to be first round picks. But you're talking second, third,

796
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: fourth round. Listen, we can nitpick Jayden Daniels all we

797
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: want the LSU quarterback like that's a draftable player. Same

798
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: with Florida State's quarterback. These are draftable quarterbacks. Let alone

799
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: the Drake Mays, the Caleb Williams that you name it.

800
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix to me, throws as beautiful a ball as

801
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: any quarterback college or pro. It is. Honestly, I'm gonna

802
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: pick Washington to win the conference. I think Washington will

803
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: win the Pac twelve. Oregon, you know. I'm not betting

804
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: on USC. I'm just not they don't have the defense.

805
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: Oregon might be as good. Obviously, they played an incredible game.

806
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: I gotta see them play a real opponent. But I mean,

807
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Oregon Washington's gonna be a fantastic game. A lot of

808
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: people love bo Nicks and I'll never forget. Andy Reid

809
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: told me years ago when they were evaluating Patrick Mahomes.

810
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: I was like, was it difficult to evaluate a quarterback

811
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: in kind of this spreadsoft offense. He's like, no, it

812
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: actually made it much easier. I just removed every quick

813
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: screen he had, and he just had more evidence and

814
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: more inventory of short, intermediate, and deep throws than most

815
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the history of my job. Because of the

816
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: amount these guys throw. And that speaks to all these

817
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: quarterbacks now they're just throwing more. And that starts with

818
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: high school. I've been saying this forever. In two thousand

819
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: and one to two three, when I was in high school,

820
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: we ran the Wing Tea and this was in Sacramento,

821
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: a pretty big recruiting hotbed. It's not quite you know,

822
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: I would say La or the Central Valley, but it's

823
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: it's got a lot of Division IE players that play

824
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: Power five football, and I would say a large percentage

825
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: of teams ran some version of the wing tea of

826
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: the option of the veer. And now if you just

827
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: look and I Fallow high school football and Sacramento relatively closely,

828
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: they're all running spread offenses. They're all throwing it and

829
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: that speaks to all over the country now. So all

830
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: these top quarterbacks are used to throwing the ball in

831
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: high school and then they get to college. Where when

832
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: I was a kid, even if you threw the ball

833
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: in high school, once you got to college, you usually

834
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: played in a running offense. Well, those days are over.

835
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: It's all spread it out and slinging around. So the

836
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: amount of sweet quarterbacks makes one college football really easy

837
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: to watch because it's just fun. It's just an exciting game.

838
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: And it's also fun even if you listen. When I

839
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: lived in Philly, there was a big Penn State contingent,

840
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: But Philly, Boston, New York, the Northeast leans much more NFL. Obviously,

841
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: the South leans much more college football. And while we

842
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: like college football on the West, I know I do,

843
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: it's much more pro football. Right the forty nine ers

844
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: now the Rams, the Chargers. Seattle's good now, bigger than

845
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: college football even SC When they're good, they're the only team,

846
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: and we'll see if their importance has dropped a little

847
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: bit because of the NFL teams in Los Angeles. But

848
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: my overall point is that the talent in that position

849
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: is stupid, and some of these random quarterbacks that have

850
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: been hanging on by a thread in the NFL, they're

851
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: about to get booted because there are just gonna be

852
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: so many guys drafted. Even teams with starting quarterbacks like

853
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: a Dak Prescott, like a Kirk Cousins, like just go

854
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: around the league with some of the middle of tier guys.

855
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be drafting quarterbacks in the third, fourth

856
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: round who are really good. And that's exciting, and that's

857
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: means there's a healthiness for the league when there's a

858
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: lot of quarterback play at least a high level, and

859
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: we know a lot of these guys aren't gonna turn

860
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: into good play. I'm not acting like these guys are

861
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: all gonna be stars, because even between Caleb and Drake

862
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: May the likelihood that both are Pro bowlers, history would

863
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: tell us that's not the case. Even though it's like God,

864
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: I watched both of them, Pennix as well. Now Penix

865
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: has an injury history, those three players are just elite.

866
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just Caleb's remarkable. Drake May I thought

867
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: looked awesome the other night, and Pennix, I just typed

868
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: him into Twitter the other night, the day after his game,

869
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: just because I wanted to watch a couple of his throws,

870
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: just because it's so beautiful coming. There's something special about

871
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: a nice soft touch from a lefty, but really enjoyed,

872
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: and you should do. I mean, if you're just flipping around.

873
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of high, high level quarterback play

874
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: is just it's jaw dropping and last, but not least,

875
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: I would say over my life, I'm thirty seven, thirty eight,

876
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: thirty eight, I'm about to be thirty nine. I'm getting old.

877
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: I've become much less emotional. Doesn't mean that I can't

878
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: be moved emotionally, or when I think of things about

879
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: my parents or you know, I see something on the

880
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: Internet it's you know, heart wrenching, gut wrenching or moving

881
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: that I can't wouldn't shed a tear. But for the

882
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: most part, I've I've developed some callouses and it's not

883
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: always the healthiest thing, and honestly might be a middle

884
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: cough trait. I know. My brother's a lot like that.

885
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Told the story when we were in Todo a couple

886
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: weeks ago about something crazy that happened on the ranch

887
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: and the guy almost died, and it was like, didn't

888
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: even phase them, middle coss We can be. Our emotions

889
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: are just we kind of struggle with it sometimes we

890
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what to do. Did exactly have the

891
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: most vulnerable upbringing in terms of just talking about our

892
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: feelings not you know, I was raising old school home.

893
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: But I was watching the PAC twelve over the weekend

894
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: and they obviously did not lose a game. Pretty incredible

895
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: start for a conference that's literally about to die. The

896
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: conference is going away forever. And I've said I'm not

897
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: as aggressive as coward of like, you know, this is

898
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: just inevitable. Like obviously it's great for the networks. You know,

899
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: it's great to have Michigan playing Washington and Oregon playing

900
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Ohio State. I get it. I get it

901
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: from finance financial standpoint, and I'm as pro business as

902
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: anyone easily that talks about sports. You will not find

903
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: anyone who not only understands it but celebrates it. I'm

904
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: pro money here. That doesn't mean that watching it this

905
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: weekend and watching the PAC twelve, which is probably gonna

906
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: have their deepest league in fucking forever. I mean they

907
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: have potentially four teams that could compete to make the playoffs, Oregon, Washington,

908
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: in USC and Utah. I do feel pretty confident that

909
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: they will get a playoff team, Like right now, if

910
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: I was a betting man, I will say the PAC

911
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: twelve would be represented in the playoffs. What Deon Sanders

912
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: is doing with Shador and Travis Hunter. The Arizona schools,

913
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: especially University of Arizona, looks really good. Oregon State is

914
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: really good. I mean they're gonna be an eight and four,

915
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: nine and three team that you want no part of.

916
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: Washington State has an NFL quarterback, Callan Stanford. Actually, you

917
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: had a good start, especially Cal for a program that

918
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: doesn't care about sports, not the coaches or the players.

919
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: But the administration kind of made me sad. And honestly,

920
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it on Sunday night, like it sucks.

921
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: It really does. It's over, and I'm not hoping that

922
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: it ever comes. I understand that there's no looking back. Somehow,

923
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: Stanford and Cal are now in the ACC and I've

924
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: I tweeted this and I believe this to my core.

925
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: If you think that Clemson and Florida State in North Carolina,

926
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: who all voted against adding them, are ever playing a

927
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: game in the Bay Area, you're high on something because

928
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: I can't ever see that happening. People like middle cut

929
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: there in the conference, like yeah, for how long one

930
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: in two? I don't see it. But regardless, like for

931
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: all the expansion, I understand why the networks want it.

932
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: I understand why every week one game should be Colorado

933
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: or TCU, LSU, Florida State. We should not have Oregon

934
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: play in Portland State. That's an embarrassment that should not happen.

935
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't blame them for doing it because those are

936
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: the current rules. But that needs to die. And as

937
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: these conferences dissipate and they all go under one umbrella,

938
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: eventually we will just get every game will be Alabama,

939
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: Texas or Ole, Miss Washington or just whatever. That will

940
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: just be bigger games against Power five opponents, even the

941
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: non power five, like you can play Boise State, Fresno State,

942
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: some of those schools as well, but you should never

943
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: be able to play D one Double A. Teams like

944
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: those days not only need to die, I'm pretty confident

945
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: they will, but if you're of a certain age, it

946
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: is gonna suck not having these traditional rivalries and just

947
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: having them die. Like I think it's cool that now

948
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: with Texas going back to the SEC, that you'll get

949
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Texas and Texas A and M again. You should, but

950
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: there was something cool about like Texas Kansas State or

951
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: Texas Texas Tech when they would lose that game sometime

952
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: and it would make that program season, or when Oregon

953
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: State last year takes down USC or almost does, or

954
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago they did, and it's just

955
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: it's a huge feather in that team's cap, and those

956
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: days feel kind of over and regionally at least for

957
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: US out West, and that sucks, And it truly makes

958
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: me sad, not sad enough to cry. But I do

959
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: understand the people on the other end that say this

960
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: is all about money. It is because football pays for everything.

961
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: As you've seen with the destruction of like the Big East.

962
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: Why did it get destroyed because football was the cash cow,

963
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: not basketball, even though basketball is a profitable venture. But

964
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: football makes so much more. The basketball programs, especially the

965
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: basketball programs that don't have football or don't have a

966
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: powerful football program, we're viewed as an afterthought. And I

967
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: don't really know what else to say besides that, I

968
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: hope the Pac twelve has just an incredible year. I

969
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: hope this doesn't slow down. Obviously, it's impossible to not

970
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: lose a game because you eventually play each other. But

971
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: keeps kicking ass and taking names, and it's gonna be

972
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: weird next year when we see it, even if that

973
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: means more entertaining games than it surely does. But for

974
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: those of us that grew up loving football on Saturdays

975
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: out West, it was hard not to get a little

976
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: sad with the success that the conference really had over

977
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: the first three or four days of the season. Okay,

978
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: let's go mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is

979
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those direct messages very very easy

980
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: to get in the show. It's firing the dms and

981
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: get your question answered here on the pod. Start with

982
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: bo Hey, John, just watching the first half of Washington

983
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: Boise State and Pennix has got to be the hardest

984
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: player to place in the quarterback mix for the draft.

985
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: The injury history history is undeniable, but so is the talent.

986
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: Dude throws lasers and really excels at working through progressions.

987
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: If this guy gets through the year healthy, how can

988
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: a front office determine whether to take the risk on

989
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: this guy in the first two rounds or waited out

990
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 1: in a class that looks promising. Have you heard anything

991
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: from the scouting community? I personally, you know, I'm not

992
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: don't work in the league anymore. Thought he was like

993
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: a fringe first round or last year. But I know

994
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: how those meetings go. Injuries ACL injuries always scare teams

995
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: once you start stacking back to back seasons of health,

996
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I don't think he missed a

997
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: game last year, well, if he goes back to back

998
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: years fully healthy and he checks when he gets physical

999
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: at the combine that everything is a go. That he

1000
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: just had prior injuries and he doesn't have some degenerate knee,

1001
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any question marks physically moving forward. Yeah,

1002
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: I think he'll be drafted in the top ten. I

1003
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: think he's got a chance to be in the mix

1004
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: for the number two overall quarterback now Drake May I

1005
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: don't have like his entire extensive history of high school.

1006
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: But if he's never had a major injury, I don't

1007
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: think Caleb's ever have a major injury. Those two guys

1008
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: feels like would go ahead of him, but I would

1009
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: say and listen, I haven't watched every quarterback, but to me,

1010
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix looks right now like the third best quarterback.

1011
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: ACL injuries pretty sure two. But Nick Post has been

1012
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: hurt before, had an ACL injury in high school, had

1013
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: major growing surgery in college. So like guys that have

1014
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: injury histories get drafted and then go on to have

1015
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: successful careers at all positions. And the one thing you

1016
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: feel good about with quarterback is they're pretty protected in

1017
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: the sport now obviously in the pros but in college

1018
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: as well. So if you feel his body can hold up, yeah,

1019
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean I think as of today, someone that just

1020
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: is kind of a football addict and watched an unhealthy

1021
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: amount of football, to me, he's clearly the third best quarterback.

1022
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: Throws just God is ball so beautiful. Jacob hindsight is

1023
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but with the Texans have been better off

1024
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: taking Will Anderson and Jalen Carter instead of c J. Stroud.

1025
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: Next year's quarterback class is loaded. Texans are gonna be

1026
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: bad this year and CJ and would uh and they

1027
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: would have been bad with CJ or Davis Mills. I

1028
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: don't have inside information on this, but I think it's

1029
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: pretty clear that the owner got involved. That the owner

1030
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: said we can't go into a season with Davis Mills

1031
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: and case Keenum and just being an embarrassment draft to

1032
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks and kind of gave them an

1033
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: ultimatum because CJ. Stroud. Now, listen, that game against Georgia

1034
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: was freaking awesome, and that game alone he was a

1035
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 1: big time talent. But who do I think is better?

1036
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: Drake May, Pennix, obviously Caleb Like, I'd take all those

1037
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: guys over c J. Shround could be wrong. Time will tell,

1038
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: Maybe Demiko coach this guy up and he becomes really good. Now,

1039
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: if I get the guy from Georgia, then I feel

1040
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: pretty good about it. But yeah, I'm with you. Would

1041
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: you rather have You can't do this in a vacuum, though,

1042
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Will Anderson and Jalen Carter than

1043
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud? If c J. Stroud the likelihood that

1044
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: he's not gonna hit, of course, but factor this then

1045
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: the likelihood that Jalen Carter he had to go to

1046
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: a place that had the infrastructure, that had veteran players

1047
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: who could kind of not only take him under his wing,

1048
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: but like, that's just not going to be tolerated here.

1049
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: You're not even the best player on our team, even

1050
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: though he could be very quickly. And I think the

1051
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: Eagles were much more equipped to take the flyer, even

1052
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: though it's still risky for them than all the other

1053
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: teams that were drafting really high, like the Texans, like

1054
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: the Falcons, like all these other teams, which he immediately improves, right,

1055
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: but then he becomes their best player. They you know,

1056
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: just it's much riskier. And I think the one thing

1057
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: that Demiko and obviously their GM kind of come from

1058
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: programs with Kyle and with Belichick kind of avoid those

1059
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: guys because it can blow up in your face as

1060
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: well as like you can hit a home run. But

1061
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles were just in the perfect situation.

1062
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: They have his teammates, They have these incredible veteran players

1063
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: and Kelsey, Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox and Sleigh and

1064
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: all these guys who have seen it all made a

1065
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: ton of money. We're just high level guys. I don't

1066
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: think the Texans it's worth the risk. Not when you

1067
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: have all these picks coming up now. I think the

1068
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: big question Will Anderson's gonna be fine? Will Anderson's gonna

1069
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: be a good player if CJ. Stroud's not? Like, how

1070
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: how long are they tied to him? Now? They just

1071
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: drapped them in two overall, so he's getting years. Well,

1072
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: he said, you know, Lants only got two. But I

1073
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: hear you. Okay, let's see you're the best in the business.

1074
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: I kind of like this guy. Real quick question. I

1075
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: keep seeing where a player reaches an injury settlement with

1076
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: the team. How do those work? And is there a

1077
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: specified amount of time a player is not eligible if

1078
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: those are met, well, typically you see them with like

1079
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents or late round picks that the team

1080
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: doesn't want. Right, that would have cut So when you

1081
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: get hurt on the job, right in practice or a

1082
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: preseason game, I owe you some money, right, so I

1083
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: got to put you on injured reserve. Well, if I

1084
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: tell your agent, right, let's say you don't have like

1085
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: a torn ACL you just have like a broken arm.

1086
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: But I go listen, I don't want you here. You're

1087
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: not gonna play once you get healthy, We're gonna cut you.

1088
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: How about this, We cut you now, we come to

1089
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: some sort of settlement and you know, maybe it's one

1090
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: hundred grand, maybe it's fifty grand, maybe it's two hundred grand.

1091
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: We pay you out, We go our separate ways, and

1092
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: then you're in position healthy in you know, two much

1093
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: to get back with a team on a practice squad

1094
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: or something. So usually it's an undisclosed amount clearly, which

1095
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: is a smaller number, right, and it allows that player.

1096
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a broken finger. Maybe it's just a

1097
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: guy who got injured on the job that like you

1098
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: are obligated because you can't cut a guy who's injured, right,

1099
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: because I can't claim a guy he won't pass my physicals,

1100
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: so you have to put him on injury reserve. It's

1101
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: basically just And I could be not describing this perfectly.

1102
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: If I had like Howie Roseman or John Schneider that

1103
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: they could definitely describe it in more detail. But most

1104
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: of the you're not cutting a guy like you would

1105
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 1: never come to an injury settlement with like Jalen Ramsey right.

1106
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen with starters, with veteran players who make

1107
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money, because they would never come to

1108
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: an injury settlement. You're offering them too much money or

1109
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're making too much money, so it's just like, yeah,

1110
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: just play it out. But I think with these younger players,

1111
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: guys that were not only not guaranteed a spot, but

1112
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be on the team, that it just

1113
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: is conducive for both sides to be like, hey, here's

1114
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: eighty grand. You go your separate ways. You can rehab here,

1115
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: and then we'll go our separate ways, and then you

1116
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: can bounce back with another team once you're able to

1117
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: pass physicals late in the year. That's why I think

1118
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: you usually see that. What is your take on Deon Sanders.

1119
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: He's been shaking things up in college football realm and

1120
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 1: just shut the haters up briefly with an impressive win

1121
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: over a well coached TCU team. A lot of people

1122
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: still have him losing record this season, but the buzz

1123
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: is hard to ignore. Do you think he's wanting to

1124
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: work his way to the NFL? If so, do you

1125
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: think he has a long ways to prove himself before

1126
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: an NFL team takes them seriously as a coach. Do

1127
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: you know what I hate? And this happens in college football.

1128
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen in the pros because I can't steal

1129
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: a coach that I've seen so many takes on the

1130
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: interweb of like enjoy Dion? Will you have him? He'll

1131
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: be gone in eighteen months? Why do we always have

1132
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: to do that? Why do we always have to do that?

1133
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: Can't we just enjoy it? If he's there three years, awesome.

1134
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: If he leaves in two to go to Texas or Florida,

1135
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: so be it. But can't we just enjoy it while

1136
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: it's here? Clearly, if he wins the next couple of years,

1137
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: all these transfer portal players to some of these programs. Texas,

1138
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: if Stark doesn't win, Florida with Billy Nate will offer

1139
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: him one hundred and fifty million dollars. They just will, right,

1140
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe the Cowboys if he's number one,

1141
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, his quarterback, his son gets drafted, maybe that

1142
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: team wants to hire him if they have the number

1143
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: one overall pick in a couple of years. Obviously the

1144
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys probably wouldn't, but you know what I mean, He's

1145
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna have options Deon Sanders now with just that one game,

1146
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: and if he just goes six and six, he is

1147
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: going to have a ton of options. That's a fact,

1148
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: you know. Let's face it. Last year Auburn did not

1149
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: from the job. They won a few frees. A couple

1150
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: of years ago. Florida State Mike Norvell, which Norvel is

1151
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: going to turn out to be just fine. But you

1152
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I have some theories and educated

1153
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: guesses that I can see coming from a mile away

1154
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State, like the Ryan Day thing, like he's not

1155
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna be treated like urban Meyers save he is, he

1156
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be nitpicked with a fine tooth comb. And

1157
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: if he ain't beating Michigan and he ain't winning natties,

1158
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: like he's not some guy on scholarship, I can already

1159
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: see Kylin du boor the dude at Washington. Google his resume.

1160
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: He wins everywhere, honestly has some Brian Kelly vibes. If

1161
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: that guy goes into Big ten, let's say win's the

1162
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: Pac twelve this year, wins ten eleven games, again, goes

1163
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: to the Big ten, keeps winning double digit games. That

1164
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: guy's got Ohio State ridden all over, just like Florida.

1165
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: Billy Napier ain't gonna be there long. He's just not sark. Obviously,

1166
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: big week against Alabama, big couple of years coming up.

1167
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: If he wins eight nine games the next couple of years,

1168
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: they'll run him out of town. That's got Deon Sander's

1169
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: written all over. And let's face it, if McCarthy, you know,

1170
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: we've been saying Lincoln Riley, Deon Sander's fucking playing for

1171
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So he's gonna be in the mix. But

1172
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: let's just enjoy it. Let just have an incredible year

1173
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: of Deon Sanders coaching, son coaching both sons. Shilah led

1174
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: the team in tackles, and Travis Hunter and a little

1175
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: running back. And it's just fun. We'll just have fun.

1176
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: I hit up Notre Dame in Michigan State for Week

1177
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: one college football and was super impressed by Notre Dame

1178
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: unreal campus. As a father of two kids, it got

1179
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: me thinking, where would you want your future onboard children

1180
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: to go to college? Well, let's not get it twisted

1181
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: that I will live and I plan on it if

1182
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: they so choose, And who knows, you know, higher education,

1183
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be changed, and I haven't had one yet.

1184
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: Hell I don't even have one on the way. So

1185
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: we're still nineteen years minimum away from my child going

1186
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: to college. And who knows, Like if they want to

1187
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: go to trade school, maybe they become an entrepreneur, the

1188
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: world changes, may they become a full time YouTuber. So

1189
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: I will not force education was forced on me, and

1190
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad, but I was talking about it with my

1191
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: girlfriend last night. I was like, you got to go

1192
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: to college, go to college, but it was never like

1193
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: to really improve your education, to really improve your knowledge,

1194
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: to improve your skills. It's like you just got to

1195
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: go to cut. Well why and I went, and hell

1196
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: I got multiple degrees, but it's like why did I go?

1197
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: And really most of my time spent there was partying,

1198
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: chasing girls, and setting myself up football wise, like getting

1199
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: involved with athletic program and the football program. So I'm

1200
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 1: not acting like I didn't have benefits to my life,

1201
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: but I didn't learn anything there besides what I was

1202
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: learning on my own. So I look at college a

1203
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: little differently though. I went to CalPoly, so we don't

1204
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: have I mean, we have athletics, but not that anyone

1205
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: cares about. I would love for my son or daughter

1206
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: to attend a school that matters athletically, but specifically in football.

1207
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully football is still a really big deal in twenty

1208
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: plus years. Keep our fingers crossed. Surely trending that way.

1209
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: But wouldn't matter. I mean, I've been to a lot

1210
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: of campuses, obviously through this job, all the Pac twelve schools,

1211
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, USC UCLA, Colorado's actually got an incredible campus.

1212
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: I always thought Utah was really underrated, Washington, Oregon or Badass,

1213
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: any of the schools in the South, Bama, Georgia, Florida, Clem,

1214
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: you name it. I mean, I wouldn't matter, but I

1215
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: would like Power five. But I'm also I'm not we

1216
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: are going to promote and push curiosity in my family,

1217
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously there is a level of discipline

1218
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: of doing your homework and stuff that translates to life.

1219
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: But like so many times, my parents are like, you

1220
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: got like, I don't care what they're telling what they're

1221
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: teaching me. These these classes are stupid. I do not

1222
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: care about chemistry. It does not matter. I literally talk

1223
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: about football to pay my bills. Now, so I was right.

1224
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: They were wrong. Hey, John, the husband and I are

1225
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: huge fans. I like this family. Need your thoughts on

1226
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: this because I haven't seen much coverage on it. What

1227
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: the hell do you think is going going on with

1228
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: Isaiah Bugs? Trade pay issues? Shit seems sour Isaiah Bugs?

1229
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: Who's Isaiah Bugs? Am I an idiot? Isaiah Bugs? Isaiah

1230
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: Bugs frustrated after learning he'll be a healthy scratch bench

1231
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: for the season opener plays for the Lions defensive lineman.

1232
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: I'd be Lion if I knew much about the Isaiah

1233
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: Bugs situation. I will say this, the big question mark

1234
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions is gonna be their secondary right.

1235
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: Can they cover people? I think defensive line. I thought

1236
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: Aidan Hudchson last year. By the end, you're like, God,

1237
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: this guy kind of looks like a POSA brother. This

1238
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: guy looks like one of the next big JJ Watt

1239
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: or something. This guy's got a chance to be an

1240
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: All Pro. And I think they drafted I forget his name,

1241
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: but another guy last year in the draft that had

1242
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: eight sacks. Maybe their defensive lines is good and sometimes

1243
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: older players you know Wally Pipped get replaced. It's the

1244
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: best part of the NF ultimate meritocracy at any single moment.

1245
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: Unless you're just like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady writer

1246
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: or Aaron Donald or whatever. It's very hard to kind

1247
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: of bench you. But eventually you get replaced, and the

1248
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: majority of the league is not those guys. So the

1249
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: majority of the league. Every single training camp, new players

1250
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: come in, new expectations get higher, and you're not guaranteed

1251
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: a spot. So Isaiah Buggs, he's been on the lines

1252
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. I've said, I don't even

1253
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: know that much about this guy. He played at Bama.

1254
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't really remember him, but yeah, gotta produce. Got

1255
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: a question for the bailback. If the Rams are projected

1256
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: to be so bad, why don't they follow suit with

1257
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: their division rivals, the Cardinals in tank? Hard to sell

1258
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: Donald and Cup on that, but Cup is hurt and

1259
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: could be an asset to a competing team, and Donald

1260
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: could generate at least one late first or multiple picks.

1261
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: Why not sell and go in all in on acquiring

1262
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. William stayin in California with McVeigh because you

1263
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: can't do that. Week one, You're paying Donald, Stafford and

1264
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: Cup too much money. Now, can you do that October fifteenth, Yes,

1265
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: but in their schedule is lined up for them to

1266
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: have some problems. But you can't do that immediately. So

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01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: to me, they're in a position to just kind of

1268
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: let it play out, and letting it play out is

1269
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: going to be pretty ugly. The Cardinals do not have

1270
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: Stafford Donald or Cooper cup I mean, they got Buddha Baker.

1271
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: But a safety can only do so much. I mean,

1272
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's going to go down as like one of

1273
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: the great players of all time, and you're paying them

1274
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. Stafford is making just half of You

1275
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: just walked into a Wells Fargo in southern California. You

1276
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: can just empty the bank and that might not even

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: be enough to pay mass effort because if you know,

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01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: the bank's the way they operated a little shady, especially

1279
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: Wells Fargo. I got into it with them the other day.

1280
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: That a customer for twenty plus years and they've screwed

1281
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: me over on some fees. But that's neither here nor there.

1282
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: I do think it's a little harder just tank. But

1283
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Okay, love you, man, but

1284
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: I have to call into a question a coma, a

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: false media narrative. You chimed in on Collins pod that

1286
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: I hope you consider re examining on your pod, the

1287
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: idea that the Jets have a terrible offensive line is nonsense.

1288
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: Is it potentially injury prone? Yes, but you can't say

1289
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: that almost every unit good or bad in the league.

1290
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: I agree. Dwayne Brown at left tackle wal forty, I

1291
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: think he's thirty eight, is a former All Pro who

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: played pretty well last year and allowed just one sack. Again,

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01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: when I say bad offensive line, I'm not talking. I trust.

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01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: I like their guards gave Tomlinson, who coming off a

1295
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: bad year but got paid a lot of money, who's

1296
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: been a really good player with the forty nine ers.

1297
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: Tucker is a really good player. To love that guy

1298
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: in the draft? I think, do we even know if

1299
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: Makai Beckton is good? Yes? We know he has not

1300
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: been good. We know he hasn't been reliable and a guy.

1301
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: If we're playing, I'm circling the fucking wagons. If I'm

1302
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator and we're attacking relentlessly, I'll promise you

1303
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: this week one, when Mkai beck Then lines up at

1304
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: right tackle, I'm sending the heat constantly at his ass. Now,

1305
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: if he proves it, great, but to pretend that, like

1306
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: we're in this pretty deep now, he hasn't been any good.

1307
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: He just has when he's played, and let alone, he's

1308
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: been injured a lot. Like you can say this has

1309
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: not worked out and this is a guy that other

1310
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: teams would not want now as their starter. Can you

1311
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: change that? Can? It's not a narrative. I mean you

1312
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: watch hard knocks Mkai Beck, then they spoke about it

1313
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: last year. There is no justifying that. Mkay. It's like

1314
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: the tray lance thing. No, as the information we have

1315
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: right now, those are terrible picks, gigantic bus can they

1316
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: change it all? But the information we have of today,

1317
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: I'm recording this on September fourth, there is no Mkai Beck,

1318
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: Dion might be no so far been a disaster. That's

1319
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: a fact that there's no emotion or bias or agendas

1320
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: behind this narratives. I hate that word sometimes, honestly. No,

1321
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: it's just the Jets offensive line is a question mark.

1322
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: Just like we go team to team, every team has

1323
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: question marks. But when you're having an offensive line as

1324
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: a question mark older tackle and just a question mark

1325
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: at right tackle, that just the guy might not be

1326
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: any good. He might not have the quickness or be

1327
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: too injury prone to function. That's a problem. So I

1328
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: hate It's not a narrative, it's literally the information we

1329
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: have right now. So listen, I'm gonna pick them, and

1330
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: I think we'll do a big season preview probably Thursday

1331
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: on Thursday's Pod. Might just beat that, just might be

1332
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: the pod. I'm gonna pick them to win the division,

1333
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be because they're gonna have the number

1334
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: one defense in the league, and I think they're gonna

1335
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: be a top five rushing team. But I don't feel

1336
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: great about Makai Decton. But this notion that like he's

1337
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: been disappointed but hurt almost two and a half years.

1338
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: Look at the analysis of him when healthy the first

1339
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: rookie year. That's like four years ago. Like we got

1340
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: new information. Things change players. Evaluating players in the NFL

1341
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: is like the stock market. You can't hold on to

1342
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: things from three years ago. It's not relevant in twenty

1343
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: twenty three, Like oh what about nineteen or twenty Like,

1344
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: who gives a shit? I'm never in the way I

1345
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 1: operate in life. A rearview mirror guy I look forward now,

1346
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: I give certain people the benefit of the doubt, Like

1347
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,879
Speaker 1: can Aaron Rodgers bounce back? Well, yeah, he's got fifteen

1348
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: years of resume, so one bad year, Like, I feel

1349
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: pretty confident, but most players, and you get this a

1350
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: lot with draft picks, like he's always been heard, he's

1351
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: now Maybe he's just not a reliable individual, right, say

1352
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: what you want about her Edwards kind of a cheat.

1353
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: The first coach to be a five year college coach

1354
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: go back to television because it got ran out of

1355
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: town for cheating, and then immediately go back to the

1356
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: NFL stuff. It's like, why aren't people asking this guy

1357
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: about college football? He's been working in college football for

1358
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: the last five years. He's just put him back on

1359
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. How's he been falling the NFL? He's been

1360
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: in college. Herm Edwards sneaky, scammar find him entertaining, but

1361
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 1: sure scammed Arizona State. But my point is, like things change,

1362
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: things change, and the best ability is availability, and right now,

1363
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, if you can't rely on players, whether and

1364
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: if it's a starter, that's a major problem. But I

1365
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: hate this notion of narrative. There's no narrative it's a

1366
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: legit question. Mark, Yeah, all end on this some stuff

1367
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: I want to touch on. I make your video. If not,

1368
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: it's okay. One. I think everyone's opinion of Colt being

1369
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: released isn't that he's some superstar quarterback. It's clearly not,

1370
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: but that he in fact that he took all the

1371
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: first team reps in practice and was preparing to start.

1372
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you about them drafting the guy from

1373
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: the fifth round and seeing what he has. I think

1374
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: everyone is just reacting to that he took all the

1375
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 1: first team reps and not the rookie. It's not that

1376
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: Colts just turned thirty eight and that we knew he

1377
01:11:53,200 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: could have prepared someone sooner. I don't think anytime in

1378
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,879
Speaker 1: that situation that a guy drafted in the middle rounds

1379
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: would get the first team reps. That's never how it

1380
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: would work. So in the situation that they just drafted

1381
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: the kid from Houston whatever, the fifth round, if they're

1382
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: starting quarterback like Kyler's injured, and you have this veteran

1383
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: player in Colt McCoy, but he could be any player.

1384
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: He could be Chas Daniel, you can name some random

1385
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: backup that guy would get the first team reps in

1386
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: the offseason and early in training camp, and then as

1387
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: time went on, you went, what's the point of this,

1388
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: Because that fifth round player has to earn he's not

1389
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: a super high pick. You can't just put him with

1390
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: the ones. You have to earn that. Now, over time

1391
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: you realize, what's the point in keeping Colt McCoy's We

1392
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: don't think he's any good one two. We might as

1393
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: well get a good look at this guy while we can.

1394
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: But I have no problem with making that decision late

1395
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: in August, because you wouldn't have the information. You get

1396
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: three weeks of this guy playing in preseason games in

1397
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: the building. How we reac practice? You go, God, we

1398
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: really like this guy. Let's just we're obviously not going

1399
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: to be any good. What's the point of not giving

1400
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: this guy the game opportunities? Maybe we strike oil, Maybe

1401
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: we just find our backup quarterback when we eventually trade

1402
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: Kyler and drafts all these other guys. Right, But I

1403
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's what team. I don't care how shitty

1404
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: you are, would ever start a fifth round player running

1405
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: with the ones like August tenth. That's just not how

1406
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: it happens without several injuries. If Colt McCoy was gonna

1407
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: be and then you change your opinion. Like I said,

1408
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: football is a stock market. Things are constantly changing. Some

1409
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: guys are getting better, some guys are getting worse, and

1410
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: some veteran players you realize have stagnated and there's no

1411
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: point to roll them out there. So second, I have

1412
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: the Jags going fourteen and three, Lawrence going off around

1413
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: forty touchdowns, fifty five hundred yards and winning the MVP.

1414
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: I know Titans fans get very very angry with me

1415
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: because they don't. I don't give them the proper respect,

1416
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: and I definitely value them more now like I think that,

1417
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be just terrible because

1418
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: their coach is too good. But I'm with you. I

1419
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: think the Jags fourteen and three feels strong, but eleven

1420
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: twelve wins and I think win that division by several games.

1421
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: Now maybe early, it feels close, but I'm with you.

1422
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence Doug Peterson because usually you bet

1423
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: on the coaching quarterback, and the Titans have a really

1424
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: good coach and Mike brad but like the Jags kind

1425
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: of have both. I don't know their coach won a

1426
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowl out coach Bill Belichick like, remember that won

1427
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: another playoff game the following year with Foles again. Trevor

1428
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence one of the best prospects the last twenty years.

1429
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 1: So forty touchdowns feels a little strong, but yeah, thirty

1430
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: five to forty touchdowns. I see a massive, massive year

1431
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence. I think the jag is going to

1432
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: be one of the best offensive teams in the league

1433
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: and are just going to be are going to cruise

1434
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: to that division. Wins said that the volume m