1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast podcasts. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: If you are even remotely a savage, you'll run these 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: people over for a second. Hello and welcome to the 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Action Network podcast presented by VEDAMGM. I'm Shan Zerlo, joined 5 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: today by former professional fighter Billy Ward to help you 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: break down. You have c Atlantic City going live at 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City on Saturday Night fourteen fight 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: card prelumit at seven main card six fights at ten 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: pm Eastern. The main event a woman's flyweight bout Aaron Blanchfield, 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: New Jersey's own Aeron Blanchfield, Bergen County's own Aeron Blanchefield 11 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: and Men Fiorro Women's Flyway title eliminator six fight Wedding 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Street for both women. Great fight in this division and 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: potentially the future trampion may come out of this fight. 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: Line is blown out a little bit. Blanch Shield was 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: closer to a sixty percent favorite minus one fifty earlier 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: in the week. It has blown out post heer to 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: minus one eighty five as high as minus two hundred 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: with Fiorro a route plus one sixty on the comeback. 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: I think blank Shield is a better live bet. Got 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: a pre fight bet. 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: I think if you're going to take either fight or 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: pre fight, I would probably take Fiorro just because I. 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: Think she is the striking advantage. 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: She is the better striker, the more powerful striker in 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: this matchup, but also I think she has more front 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: loaded success here potentially been puts Blandfield away earlier, but 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: as this fight extends, I think blanch Shield is going 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: to have a bit more success. She's not a bad 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: striker in her striking is improving, but I do think 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: she's going to be at a disadvantage. I think Fiora 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: is going to be landing the more powerful shots, but 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: blanch Shield has all the grappling upside of this fight, 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: even though it's actually possible Fiorro can land some takedowns 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: of her own. She's really nice judo, She's landed takedowns 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: in the past. She's really strong, and I think she 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: may have a strike advantage. Blanchfield has excellent top pressure, 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: and once she does get on top of opponents, it's 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: basically the end of the round, if not the fight, 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: and that's very uncommon to see in lighter weight classes, 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: in women's flyweight and any division that is really one 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: hundred and forty five pounds one hundred and thirty five 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: pounds or lower. It's very difficult to stay on top 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: of your opponent and keep them down once you actually 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: land that takedown. But Aaron Blanchfield is really strong, has 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: excellent top pressure. Once she does get her opponents down. 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: As I said, it's either the round or the fight 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: in her favor. So a fairly binary matchup, not a 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: complete binary matchup, because I do think either can be 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: competitive where the other one is stronger. I think Fiora 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: can survive off of her back. I think Blanchfield can 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: stay competitive in the striking until she's able to mix 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: it up and land the takedowns. In terms of my 53 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: bet for this fight, as I said, I kind of. 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: Like Fiora pre fight. 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: I'm going to wait and live, but Blanchefield after rounds 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: one or rounds two. Fiora is actually the one with 57 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: five round experience, and I guess it's possible that if 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: Blanchfield is going for those takedowns and not getting them, 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: she may gas herself out. But she does have the 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: kind of building and fighting style that I like to 61 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: see for fighters and entering their first main event. She's younger, 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: she's in a smaller away class. I don't think the 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: cardio is going to be an issue, and I do 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: think given now that early stylistics play out, you may 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: get a better live price utter after rounds one or two, 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: so Blanchfield live. And then additionally, I like this fight 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: to go longer. I like to go to a decision. 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Women's flyweight bouts reach a decision at a sixty one 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: percent clip now that is all fights, including three round 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: fights and five round fights. But generally speaking, I do 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: think that this total is slightly mispriced. I have this 72 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: fight going new decision closer to fifty five sixty percent 73 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: of the time, and they're basically giving even money in 74 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: a pick them price for the over four and a 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: half rounds, getting plus money on the fight to go 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: to a decision. So Blanchefield live the over for me. 77 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: That's how I'm betting Saturday's main event. Billy, I know 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: you get in on Blanchfield earlier in the week. Don't 79 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: like the price as much at current odds, But how 80 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: do you break this one from a technical person propective? 81 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: And is there a side that you like a current 82 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: odds that you would play. 83 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, one of the things that pushed me 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: to make them Blanchfield bad is if you watch your 85 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: last fight against Tyler Santos, she didn't land a single 86 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: takedown and still was fairly dominant in that fight. Santos 87 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: is nowhere near the striker that Fere is. So I'm 88 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: not calling that an apples to apples comparison. But we've 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: seen really big improvements to the striking from Blanchfield, and 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 4: you can say the same thing about Fuor with the grappling. 91 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: I believe she's now a brown belt in jiu jitsu. 92 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: She's worked her way up, but there's levels to this. 93 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: Like Blanchfield is not just a black belt. She got 94 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: her black belt at twenty, been doing jiu jitsu since 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: she was seven. Like, this is a lifetime grappler who's 96 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: really really good at it. And yeah, you alluded to it. 97 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 4: I put it in my luck ratings. I got her 98 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: around minus one sixty. I think you can justify that 99 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: despite their very similar resumes. I actually think Blanchfield has 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: more stoppage upside here. You know, she has a knockout 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: or two on her record. One of those is standing 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: headkick over a future UFC fighter, Victoria Leonardo. I see 103 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: more knockout upside from Blandfield than I see submission upside 104 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: from Fuoro. Then they both have their own strengths where 105 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: that is. But yeah, you know, current lines minus one 106 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: ninety as high as minus two hundred. Don't think I 107 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: would take that right now. I guess, you know, gun 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: to my head. If I had to make a pre 109 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: fight bet, that would probably be it. But I totally 110 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: agree with you on the live line. I think there's 111 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 4: a very good shot even if you get it back 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: to that minus one fifty minus one sixty on Blanchfield 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: in her style you alluded to, you know, getting the 114 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: top pressure and stay in there. Fiora is going to 115 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: be working really hard from the bottom to get up 116 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: off her back. Blanchfield can kind of coast a little bit, 117 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: win some rounds from top position, save some energy, and 118 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: then that builds a little bit later. So definitely think 119 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: she's a better live bet. I'm a little bit worried 120 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 4: about the judging here. We've almost seen fighters penalized for 121 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: getting takedowns if they don't do a ton with it. 122 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: If this fight worth three four years ago, where a 123 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: takedown just instantly earned you around, I bet Blanchfield to 124 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: like minus two to fifty. Now, you know, we got 125 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: to be a little bit smarter with it, just knowing 126 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: that grapplers don't get rewarded on the scorecards the way 127 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: that they used to, which leads us to the live opportunities. 128 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: Aaron is pretty active at the ground of pounds. I'm 129 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: not as worried about her potentially getting screwed in a 130 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: close decision where she's landing more takedowns. I just think 131 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Fioro is more powerful and she's going to land the 132 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: more damaging strike. So that's that's where it could come in, 133 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: is you know they spend two and a half minutes 134 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: on the feet, Fierro lands the more damaging shots, Aaron 135 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: takes her down in the final minute of the round, 136 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: ends the round on top, and you're like, I think 137 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: she won that round, but. 138 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a toss up against the judge. 139 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: It's just the nature of MMA scoring in twenty twenty 140 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: four why we do tend to lead towards underdogs and 141 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: fights that are likelier to go to a decision. However, 142 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: this one, as you said, fifty to go to a decision, 143 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: and Erin probably has more finishing upside in terms of 144 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: how I handicapped the winning methods. I basically give eron 145 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: fifty percent chance of winning inside the distance, fifty percent 146 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: chance of winning by decision. I think for Fiuro, I 147 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: put it at seventy thirty decision versus finish, and basically 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: twenty percent of it by knockouts. So yes, Aaron does 149 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: have more finish equity and potentially more dominant decision equity 150 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: too if she's just able to hold top. 151 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: Position for extended stretches. Let's move on to our fight 152 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: of the night. 153 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: The featured prilim Men's featherweight back between Jamal Embers and 154 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: Nate the Train Land where Emmer's around minus one seventy 155 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 2: five Land where plus one forty five on the comeback, 156 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: and Nate the Train is always in the Fight of 157 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: the night, so we had to feature a mirror even 158 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: though neither of us had had a particularly strong take 159 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: on this fight. Just want to talk about Nate the 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: Train because you should go back and watch all Landwor 161 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: fights that you can find. They're always award, they're always fun. 162 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: He's taking a lot of damage throughout his career due 163 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: to his fighting style, and I do worry about potentially 164 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: declining physicality as he enters his late thirties. This is 165 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: a guy who was a college track athlete, word over 166 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: to Russia, fought and I won, global, fought a lot 167 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: of really tough Russians before he ever came over to 168 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: the UFC, and then has been in a number of 169 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: wars in the UFC, and he never goes away. He 170 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: gets knocked down, he gets up, he keeps fighting. Now 171 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: sometimes the ref stops in when he gets knocked down 172 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: in that first round and he isn't able to keep going. 173 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: But if the ref doesn't stop it, Nate Lanmware will 174 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: eventually work his way back into the fight. So I 175 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: do think Jamal Emmers is a more technical fighter, the 176 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: more well rounded fighter, the better athlete. 177 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: But in terms of heart. 178 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: And willingness, the fight pass round one. I think Nate 179 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: Lamore has this all day. So landmar live after round 180 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: one is probably the best entry point for me. I 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: think he's probably gonna get hurt in round one and 182 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: then may potentially rally down the stretch. I also like 183 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: Land where by decision a little bit of plus four 184 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: to ten projected that line closer to plus three forty five, 185 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: So maybe worth a poke on Land where rallying to 186 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: a decision victory as well. Billy any Firmer takes on 187 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: this potential banger for review. 188 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even want to say land Where Live 189 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: after round one? It's land Where Live as soon as 190 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: you see him get knocked down, Like that's gonna be 191 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: in the best prices. I hate betting live, you know, 192 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: on during rounds on UFC fights, because there's a tate 193 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: delay whatever, but it's probably gonna happen, so you kind 194 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: of got to be quick on the trigger. This is 195 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: an interesting one though, because you know, you pointed out 196 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: land Where's declining, physicality is getting older. AMers is not 197 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: much younger. He's like within a year and age. He 198 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: had that for an acl when he just hung out 199 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: in a heel hook against Pat Sabatini, which you've always 200 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: talked about how bad fight ACU that was, which is 201 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: part of the issue. You know, love the toughness, but 202 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: be tough when you're in a choke, not when you're 203 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: in a heel hook. You know, like this is. I 204 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 4: do think his explosiveness has rebounded a little bit. You know, 205 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: the first fight after there, he looked a little bit slower, 206 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: had the split decision against Jack Jenkins kind of had 207 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: some moments I thought he won the fight, even though 208 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: I got big on Jack Jenkins. Now without the gambling blinders, 209 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: I definitely think I should have got the decision. And 210 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: then you know, fifty second knockout in his last fight 211 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: against Dennis Pazuka, who we'll talk about later. He's an 212 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: explosive guy. I don't know how well that tracks laid 213 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: into a fight, which further lends to the live bet angle. 214 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: So I'm going to take a little bit of a 215 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 4: sprinkle on Emmerson round one. You can get his highest 216 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: plus six hundred. I think he's good to knock land 217 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: where out. It's when he's fresh, it's when he's got 218 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: the power. Land Ward has been knocked down in two 219 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: of his last three fights, neither of them ended in 220 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: a knockout because partially the rest, partially just his heart, 221 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: you know a lot of factors. And then on the 222 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: land where side, if you're looking for free bet option, 223 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: actually like his submission prop at plus eleven hundred. I 224 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: think two of his last three wins have been submissions. 225 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: I really like how he attacks like front headlocks stuff 226 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: in that series with his chokes because He's not sacrificing position. 227 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: He's not going to his back to try to pull 228 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: a guillotine or an armbar. He's working from a dominant 229 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: position while also trying to set up submissions. I'm a tall, 230 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 4: long guy, you know, tends to stick his knock out there. 231 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: I'mers will shoot for some takedowns here and there too. 232 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: I could see, you know, i'mer's getting tired of taking 233 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: a bad shot, leaving his knock out there and put 234 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: himself right where Landber wants him. So just that's too 235 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: long of an odds or too long of a line 236 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: based on how I think he's likely to win this one. 237 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, the live bet is obviously like priority number one. Now, 238 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna make a couple sprinkles on these method 239 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 4: of victory props, more for fun than because I think 240 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: they're a massive edge. But I do think there's an 241 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 4: endle on both. 242 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Landmar is the cardio advantage he typically 243 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: does against most of his opponents, as he said, for 244 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: a trackl athlete, but also just Emmer's right a que mistakes. 245 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: Maybe he hurts land where and then shoots for her 246 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: takedown and keeps him in the fight. You know, that's 247 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: my biggest pet peeve of MMA is when fighters have 248 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: their opponents hurt and then switch to double leg takedown 249 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: and allow him. 250 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: Time to recover. 251 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: And Emers could do that, he could gas himself out 252 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: trying to finish and allow Nate to get back into 253 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: the fight. So there's a lot of ways that this 254 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: plays out where em makes a fight a key mistake 255 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: and let's land where come in the back door? But yes, agree, 256 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: Emmer's probably the pre fight side round one. That's an 257 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: interesting prop. At six to one. I think that is 258 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: probably a large part of his wing condition, especially relative 259 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: to a minus one seventy five. 260 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: So interesting look there. 261 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: Looking it up right now. As stats, Emmer's lands about 262 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: two takedowns per fifteen minutes at a forty percent accuracy, right, 263 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 4: which means attempts about five takedowns per fight, doesn't get 264 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: most of them. Like that really sets up the specific 265 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: style of grappling that Landwear likes. So to your point, 266 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: by the fight, IQ might do it when he hears Landwear, 267 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: might do it when he gets hurt, might do it 268 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 4: just because he thinks that's a better way to win. 269 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: So there's there's some openings there for sure. 270 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could absolutely see him gett dars. Do you 271 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: find that, you know, watching fights that you see that 272 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: front headlock open a lot or you know those those 273 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: front chokes, those front headlock series of chokes open a lot, 274 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: and fighters just don't go for them because it's not. 275 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: Part of their game plan. 276 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: Are you like screaming at your TV often for them 277 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: to grab the neck because it seems like it's open 278 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: more than it is. Is That's something that bothers you 279 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: when you watch fights. 280 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: Not particularly because they are hard to fit unless you're 281 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: significantly longer than your opponent. You just need so much 282 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: reach to connect through on that. And also you kind 283 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: of need your opponent to take a bad shot and 284 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: leave their arms out there. Like when you learn to grapple, 285 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: one of the first things is you shoot with your 286 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: elbows in which kind of prevents that because you're a 287 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: fister in the way, especially with MMA glove. So there's 288 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 4: definitely openings. I like when guys go for it. I'm 289 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: gonna talk about Petrowski later, who's fairly good at that series, 290 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: just because, unlike a lot of submissions, when you don't 291 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: get it, you're still typically in at least a decent 292 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: spot where fighters like the one that drives me crazy 293 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: is from that front headlock roll for a guillotine. It's 294 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: super low percentage and then when you don't get it, 295 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: you're on your back. I'm losing. So it's we saw 296 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: a poya as coach screaming at him, stop trying the guillotine, 297 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: stop trying the gullotine, and you couldn't help it. That 298 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: one drives me crazy. The front headlocks should probably see 299 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: a little bit more, but only for the reason that 300 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: it would prevent you from rolling to your back on 301 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 4: a guillotine. 302 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Andre Petrowski, your favorite underdog in the 303 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: card in middleway about with the Australian Jacob Malcun. Malcundy 304 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: a jiu jitsu coach for Robert Whitaker and really kind 305 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: of a one trick pony. He runs the pipe on everybody, 306 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: gets the single like take down and he hits it 307 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: against everybody, and it doesn't matter how good agrappol you are. 308 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: Brendan Allen he hit it seven times against uh. He 309 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: just has his move and he hits it and he 310 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: has a really good top pressure. Once he gets top 311 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: on top of you, and is able to keep opponents 312 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: on their back for extendard stretchers. I think he's the 313 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: better striker than Andre Petrowski. I think he has better 314 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: cardio than Andre Petrotski. I think the wrestling exchange is 315 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: gonna be very interesting, and I'm sure that's where you 316 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: see Petrotsky potentially catching him in something. So you like 317 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: Petrosky a big dog money, tell me what? 318 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, A couple of reasons. I mean, first is the resume. 319 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 4: Petroski is five and one in the UFC. His only 320 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: loss he took on like a week's notice against Michelle 321 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: Peire Malcoun was officially three and three. He should be 322 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: four and two. That was a horrible dq against Cody 323 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: Brundage that would have been his only UFC finish. He 324 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: fought Nick Maximov, who is down to one leg like 325 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 4: Maximov towards ACL in the first round. Couldn't put them away. 326 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: And he struggled against other wrestlers, you know, he fought 327 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: Phil Hawes, got knocked out, Brendan Allen, lost a decision. 328 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: Petrotski wrestled d one at North Carolina, and he's also 329 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: extremely high level submission guy. So I think most of 330 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: the finishing upside goes to Petroski even on the feet. 331 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: I think he's the more powerful striker. Malcun is definitely 332 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: the more technical striker. He actually started as a boxer, 333 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: I believe, before becoming a grappler and then a grappler coach. 334 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: I think this is a classic one where malcoun is 335 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: going to win minutes, but Petroski is going to have 336 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: so many opportunities for big moments that he's likelier to 337 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: get it. And Petroski is just considerably a better athlete, 338 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: like Malcoun just looks like a random, like chubby purple 339 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: belt at every BJJ jam. Like if you walk to 340 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: my gym right now, you see three dudes that look 341 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: just like Jacob Malcun physic and athleticism wise, Petrotski is 342 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: not that right, Like he looks like a guy who 343 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: wrestled Division I in college. I agree with you on 344 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: the cardio. That's my biggest concern with Petrowski. Big strong guy, 345 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: throws heavy punches, attempts explosive techdowns, you know, dives for 346 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: submissions aggressively. None of those things help your cardio. But 347 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: he shouldn't be a two to one underdog profile and 348 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: then if he comes out and looks good round one, 349 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: round two and doesn't get the finish, you might be 350 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: able to get Malcouon at two to one odds live 351 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: at some point. So if you look the Malcoon side, 352 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: I think you either play him like by decision late 353 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: props or live. I'm hoping that I can get Malcoon 354 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: live at two to one. There's nothing I'd like more 355 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: than to have a two to one ticket on both 356 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: fighters at some point in this fight and make money 357 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: no matter how it goes. So that's how I'm approaching it. 358 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: I just think Petrotski clearly more finishing upside, clearly more 359 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: round one, probably round two upside. He's gonna get picked 360 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: apart a little bit on the feet before he gets 361 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: the takedown, but his wrestling is considerably better, jiu jitsu 362 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: is at worst close, and the athleticism. I'll go towards Petrowski. 363 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Malcoon, but as you said, Billy, I 364 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: prefer to wait live after round one or I think 365 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: pre fight i'd look to take his decision prop where 366 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: i'd take round three or by decision. I think that's 367 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: the likeliest way he finishes, just by nature of PETROSSI 368 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: gasking Malcoon being on top, but you know, even when 369 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: his opponents are tired and he's on them for twelve minutes, 370 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: Malcoun does really leverage up and go for big finishes. 371 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: He's very much prioritizing that control, that pressure, that top position. 372 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: So malcoum by decision, I think is an interesting look. 373 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're going to get a better live 374 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: price on him after round one if he lands that 375 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: takedown and spends the round on top, obviously it's only 376 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: gonna blow out further. But malcoun decision, I think is 377 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: the way I'd play that pre fight. Don't hate the 378 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: look Petrowski's money line, just because the price on the 379 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: money line does seem a little wide. 380 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: Go ahead. He's not going to keep a fresh Petrosky 381 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: down like these guys with the wrestling background. He's not 382 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: going to just lay there on his back and let 383 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: that happen. Hope he might get stuck down there once 384 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: he's tired, but I don't see Petrowski getting held down early. 385 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: So I do I would bet a significant amount of 386 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: money that there's going to be a better price on 387 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: Malcom live at some point. I don't know when it's 388 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: going to be unless he gets finished early. But that's 389 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: the one. Just you gotta like d one wrestlers are 390 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: a different breed guys. If you've never rolled with one 391 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: or done any of that, Like, you got to be 392 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: an extraordinary athlete and highly tech and collect your sport. 393 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: And these guys, they hit the ground their right back up. 394 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: We've never really seen Petrowski held down by anyone, so 395 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: that I'm not worried about until, of course, he gases out, 396 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: which is probably gonna happen. Yeah. 397 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the more times you have to pop up, 398 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: the worse it's going to get. So may even you know, 399 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: be a disadvantage having to keep getting back up right 400 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: at some point. We do have a consensus underdog on 401 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 2: this car though that we like the opponent ended up 402 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: making weight, which may be a bit of a surprise 403 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: but doesn't necessarily change either of our handicaps. I don't 404 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: believe Reese McKee at about plus one twenty plus one 405 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: fifteen against Katy and Jikwane edge quandity the much better striker. 406 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: Former pro kickboxer, very technical but declining physically. He's been 407 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: finished in two of his past three fights. And today 408 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: he made one hundred and seventy pounds for the first 409 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: time since twenty sixteen, and the last time he tried 410 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: to make one hundred and seventeen pounds one hundred and 411 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: seventy pounds, he bought his vocal courts and he sounds 412 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: like a two packet a smoker now. So not great 413 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: for his health, huge for the division. But and Billy 414 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: and I constantly talk about we don't love fighters who 415 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: are thirty five moving down him. Wait, not as big 416 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 2: of a deal at one seventy one eighty five as 417 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: it would be a band Wade or Flyway. That said, 418 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: Ree McKee's a big guy, and Cheaty is not going 419 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: to have a big reach advantage here. He's not going 420 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: to be significantly taller. He's a couple of inches taller. 421 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: He does have more power, and I think he can 422 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: absolutely finish McKee in round one. But generally speaking, Ree 423 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: McKee is pretty durable and he only loses clearly when 424 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: opponents take him down, and that's not what Cheat's going 425 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: to be doing in this fight. McKee has the grappling 426 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 2: upside if anybody. McKee has much better cardio, and based 427 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: on the weight differential, and Cheaty cutting down. McKee should 428 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: be the faster man, so I do like McKee. You 429 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: may get a better live price on him after round one. 430 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: I think cheat will be dangerous for the first round, 431 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: but I also like McKee refight five after round one 432 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: and then to win in rounds two and three plus 433 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: seven fifty for round two plus twelve hundred for round three. 434 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: I think Cheaty's getting gas hard here after that weight cut. 435 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: So Billy, do you see this one the same way? 436 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. This is what I also took earlier in 437 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 4: the week in my luck ratings. Slightly better price, not 438 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 4: mass movement like some of them. You know, his only 439 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: finish loss was to Hamzat, who he was sacrificed to 440 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: during the fight Island days. A couple decisions to guys 441 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: with rustling game plans after that. Yeah, the big thing 442 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: is just dropping a weight class at this age. Not 443 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: only I think there's the physical detriment of that, but 444 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: sometimes I think I've been guilty of this in my 445 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: own career. It's like, rather than improving your deficiencies, you think, oh, 446 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: I'm just need to be in a different weight class, 447 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: so you kind of get a false sense of security. 448 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: That that was the problem to begin with. When there's 449 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 4: good guys at every weight class, and arguably as you 450 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: go down the weight class, the skill level and the 451 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: speed gets so much higher that you're not even always 452 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: helping yourself. Like very rarely do I watch an MMA 453 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 4: fight and I think that guy lost because he wasn't 454 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: big and strong enough. We see it, it happened. I mean, 455 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: Kevin Holland was the perfect example. But that's usually not 456 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: the problem, and you're only making the skill and the 457 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: speed harder. Your perfect point on the cardio. That's not 458 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: going to be great for him, you know, having to 459 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: cut all that weight so pretty much in lockstep with 460 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: you might get a better live line. You know, if 461 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 4: I hadn't taken the earlier line on the key, I 462 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 4: might wait. I got plus one forty two, so fairly 463 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: significant difference. Might wait for live, or maybe do half 464 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: the unit pre fight half unit live, something like that. 465 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, we're seeing it the same way. 466 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast is presented by North Carolina's newest 467 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: sportsbook bet MGM used the bonus code action when signing 468 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: up to get one hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets. 469 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: When you bet just five dollars. Four new users in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, 470 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, 471 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: and Wyoming. Terms and conditions apply. Must be twenty one 472 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: or older. Gambling problem called one eight hundred Gambler's. 473 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: Who, one of our favorite props on this card already 474 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: gave out one round one prop for fighter just because 475 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: you thought the price discrepancy was wide relative to their 476 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: money line and I one hundred percent seed. The same 477 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: argument for you betting Herbert Burns to win in round 478 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: one at plus nine hundred that seems like the vast 479 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: majority of his win equity and getting a big price 480 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: description the relative to his money line. 481 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that if you look at his UFC 482 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: career counting Contender series Round one win, Round one win, 483 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: Round one win, Round two loss, Round two loss. His 484 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: last round two lost is listed as exhaustion from damage Like, 485 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen that someone's fighter page before. 486 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 4: The guy for being a smaller fighter has the worst 487 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: cardio I've ever seen, and people longtime listeners know. I 488 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: like to tease the BJJA based fighters for having that 489 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: because they go out there and they do one round, 490 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: then the match is done, and he exemplifies that like 491 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: no one else I've ever seen. He's a bad out 492 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 4: of hell. Three four minutes, he's gone for crazy submissions. 493 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. You survive that he's done. 494 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, I would almost say like he's under one 495 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: and a half and when a line should be his 496 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: money line, like there's there's very little chance he wins 497 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 4: a fight that goes beyond that I believe is he 498 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 4: has two decision wins very early in his career. I 499 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 4: don't know what happened there, you know, against lower level competition. 500 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 4: Maybe he was in better shape than I don't know, 501 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: but that's how I'm playing that one. And then, of course, 502 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: if you can get a better price against him live 503 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: after round one because he looked really good, definitely do that. 504 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: Although I think the market is probably sophisticated enough to 505 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: not move the line on a guy who got beat 506 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: up by Herbert Burns for round one because they all 507 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: know what's going to happen. 508 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for similar reasons. 509 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: I kind of like Julio Arche in rounds two and 510 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: rounds three respectively. The prices on that seemed off relative 511 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: to what his wing condition probably isn't the way her 512 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Burns fades, So plus four fifty plus seven to fifty 513 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: respectively on RCH round two, round three not huge prices, 514 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: but probably the way he wins this fight. You could 515 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: even bet all three very likely in turn a profit, 516 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: which played him small. My favorite prop of this card, 517 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: Bill Algao went and round threw by decision. He was 518 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: the guy who beat up Herbert Burns and forced them 519 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: into retirement in that last fight. I was at that card. 520 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns was standing in Herbert Burns corner screaming at 521 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: him to keep fighting, and then Gilbert ended up having 522 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: to carry his brother backstage and out of the ocagon. 523 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: Just absolutely wild scenes. But that's what Bill Algio does 524 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: to people. He breaks them. And I think he could 525 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: break Tucker here or sorry Kylin Nelson here. You know, 526 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of Kyle Tucker and just in my mind 527 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: changed his name to Tucker. Kyle Nelson is a very 528 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: solid underdog and he keeps upsetting people long odds. He's 529 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: able to lull people into kind of a staring match 530 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: where he just sort of out points them and now 531 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: going to be in the bigger cage, maybe a little 532 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: bit more space to run around. But also Algio just 533 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: on the gas the entire time, got to stay in 534 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: his face and not really give Nelson a chance to 535 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: take a break. So I do think the volume the 536 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: Cardio is going to be a bit too much from 537 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: Bill Algio here. If his price moves out after round one, 538 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: say Kyle Nelson knocks him down, you know, has a 539 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 2: big moment, maybe wins the round, I would definitely lie 540 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: bet Algio after round one, But I don't think Nelson 541 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: is going to win many minutes here. Algio's volume is 542 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: just going to be too much for him. So Algio 543 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: round threwer by decision minus one ten. I also like 544 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: his decision prop but plus one twenty five. But I 545 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: think if he gets a finish, it's very likely to 546 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: come in round three. You could also just kind of 547 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: structure a bet and place him to win by decision 548 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: of plus one twenty five and then to win in 549 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: round three at plus twelve hundred. Maybe put ninety percent 550 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: of your wager on the decision prop ten percent on 551 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: the round three prop, so you still profit a little 552 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: bit if he does win in round three. Believe any 553 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: thoughts on Algio and Nelson, No, I'm I wish. 554 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: I would have seen that earlier. I'm very surprised at 555 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 4: that line that includes round three at nearly a pick 556 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: and price. I would have thought that would be much 557 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 4: closer to his win condition. He's just not really a 558 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: guy that stops people early. When he finishes people, it's 559 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: exhaustion due to damage, not you know, one big punch. 560 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 4: So love that pick. 561 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a similar dynamic to his fight against or 562 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: to Nelson's fighting against Billy Quarantino. Just a very similar 563 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: art type in terms of guy who's just going to 564 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: be sort of gassing you out with volume and staying 565 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: in your face the whole time. 566 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: Let's move on our best bets. 567 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: We do have one that we were aligned on, and 568 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: we should talk about the Pleasure Man, one of our 569 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 2: favorite fighters to discuss before we get to our separate 570 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: best bets. Ebo Aslon anton Tercli a rematch for Brave 571 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: cf Oslan was dominating the first round, nearly put her 572 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: collie out. Everybody nearly puts her collie out in round one, 573 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: and then Aslan seemed to gas out, slash make a 574 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: fight I key mistake, got his back take and got 575 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: choked out at the start of round two. The rematching 576 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: here in the UFC Acelan a few years older, now, 577 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: a bit more developed, I would imagine as a prospect, 578 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: and also Terkali has taken a substantial amount of damage 579 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: in his UFC run. I think he's probably less durable 580 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: than he was the first time these guys fought. I'm 581 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: sure Aslan is a better fighter than he was the 582 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: last time these two fought, more mature in his physical 583 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: prime now. So we both like Aslan prefight it minus 584 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: one twenty five. It's hard not to like him pre 585 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: fight considering he should dominate that first round. His odds 586 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: to winning round one or plus one seventy five, which 587 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: is a joke considering his money line, but it is 588 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 2: large part of his win condition. I do think, though, 589 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: there's a bigger chance that he just you know, survives, 590 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: continues to pour on damage and wins a decision or 591 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: wins in round two. I just you know, watching that 592 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: first fight back, it didn't seem to me as much 593 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: that he gassed out and gave up so much is 594 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: that he just made a horrendous mistake and has allowed 595 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: his back to be taken before he got choked out. 596 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: So think this one plays out similarly early except for 597 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: the fact that I think Acelan stops him. 598 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: Did you have a. 599 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: Similar reaction watching that rematch? Did you think here watching 600 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: the first fight, did you think that he gassed out 601 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: or did you think it was a fight acing mistake? 602 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: And how do you like this one to go? 603 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to tell. I think it's probably a 604 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: little bit of both. Like you make more fight acuum 605 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: mistakes when you're tired than when you're fresh. That's just 606 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 4: kind of how it goes. But No, the biggest thing 607 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 4: for me is had there not been a rematch here, 608 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 4: or had there not been the previous fight, Trakal's probably 609 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: wouldn't still be in the UFC. He probably would have 610 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 4: been caught off three straight losses, and this line would 611 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: be much much wider because pleasure Man has not looked 612 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: UFC caliber and any one of his appearances, like you know, 613 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: he's made it to a decision, he hasn't been finished 614 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: all of them, but he didn't look good or really 615 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: looked competitive in any of these fights finished in the 616 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: first round twice, one decision against Vitor Petrino, who that's 617 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 4: just kind of his thing. He doesn't seem too interested 618 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: in finishing anyone. As we've learned. In Ozlon twelve and one, 619 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 4: his only career loss was to the pleasure Man. I 620 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 4: think all knockout, Yeah, all knockouts. You know, big hitter, 621 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 4: as you mentioned, probably should be a little bit better 622 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 4: as a well rounded fighter. You'd imagine now he can 623 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: train full time. When they fought before, he's probably working 624 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: some other job, you know, just getting by on national athleticism. 625 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: So one, you know, it was even better price earlier 626 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 4: in the week, I got minus one fifteen. Again, read 627 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: the luck ratings everyone. But yeah, there's if you just 628 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: even if you don't watch that fight back, if you 629 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 4: just pretend that fight never happened, you would think Alizon 630 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: should be minus two fifty or something here. And I'm 631 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: willing to overlook that one as more of a fluke 632 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 4: than I am the other three fights where pleasure Man 633 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 4: hasn't been UFC caliber. 634 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 2: Ozlon actually has a round three knockout on his record too. 635 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: I think that is encouraging, just because he has done 636 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: it in the past, we have seen it extended and 637 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: actually put somebody away in the third round. So yeah, 638 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: I like Ozlon here as well. Minus one twenty five. 639 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: I would probably just take the money line instead of 640 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: taking any of his props. Maybe if you get a 641 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: big juicy number on round one knockout or round one 642 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: knockout potentially in a round robin. That is the large 643 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: part of his one condition. But I think he has 644 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: other ways of winning this fight. Your favorite bet on 645 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: the card, Connor Matthews, another bet you give out earlier 646 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: in this week, and be believe another bet you got 647 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: a little bit better of a line on. He does 648 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: seem like a very public underdog selection this week. But 649 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: I am on the same side as you in terms 650 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: of liking Matthews in this fight. 651 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: I don't know if I have a bet on it, 652 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: but I do lean your way. 653 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, at the current prices, it's a final bet. At 654 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 4: the earlier price at plus money, it was certainly a 655 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: best better a favorite bet. But he's fighting Dennis Pezuka. 656 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 4: I mean I quoted you in my justification. Dennis Pazuka's 657 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: best attribute is he tries really hard, and that's encouraging. Obviously, 658 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: we want guys who are going to fight hard for 659 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 4: him money, and we've seen people that don't do that. 660 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: But it's kind of like when they say your best 661 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 4: attribute is your chin. What that doesn't say, but it 662 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: is heavily implied, is that you're not doing too great 663 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: at other things, and that's not a great way to 664 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: make a career. I don't want guys who are trying 665 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: to make a career by being tough and absorbing damage. 666 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 4: I don't want guys who make a career by just 667 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: written through fights that they should be losing and to 668 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: get You know, Connor Matthews at plus money earlier in 669 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: the week, roughly pick him now. I think he's a 670 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: reasonably skilled guy. You know, he's seven and one, made 671 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: two appearances on the Contender series, both decisions. Very good grappler. 672 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: I think he's a better teching, cool grappler here mostly 673 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 4: submission wins. His nickname is the Controller for a reason, 674 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: and I just think there's a big skill discrepancy there 675 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: with Dennis Bozuka. Again, could Bazuka try really hard and 676 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: grit through this one? Sure? Which is why I wouldn't 677 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 4: say it's a best bet at minus one oh five 678 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: plus one fifteen earlier was the steal though, so like those, 679 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: you know, if you wanted to sprinkle on the submission line, 680 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 4: I think that's a much juicier line too. That might 681 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: just be theuckiest way he wins this one. 682 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: What do you think about the decision prov I made 683 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: the decision line closer to minus one eighty. I see 684 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: minus one thirty out there. Do you think this one 685 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 2: goes fifteen minutes? 686 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: You're saying the fight to go to decision or Matthews? 687 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the fight to go to decision yep. 688 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: I don't have a strong take on whether it goes 689 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: that way or not. I think if you think it 690 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: goes that way, you should probably lean towards the Bazukas side. 691 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: And if you think it goes inside the distance, that 692 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: probably significantly benefits Matthew. So I see it correlating pretty 693 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: clearly to either fighter. I don't have a strong take. 694 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: You'd think Bazukah should be able to find a submission, 695 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: Matthews should be able to find a submission here, just 696 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: given his track record in the style of fighter he is. 697 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 4: But submissions are tricky, you know, guys get sweaty, stuff 698 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 4: gets missed, like you know, it wouldn't it wouldn't be 699 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 4: all best surprising, and Bazuka has never been submitted. His 700 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: only finish loss was a knockout, so hard to say. 701 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of lean over or GTD there maybe a 702 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: close decision. I mean the line would suggest that it 703 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: would be. But really getting in earlier on the plus 704 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: money side of things and putting himself in good position 705 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: my favorite bat of the card. It is more of 706 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: a final bet than a best bet. But Melissa Gatto 707 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: sitting at minus one forty now minus one fifty. She 708 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: was earlier in the week I believe closer to minus 709 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: one sixty. It's this line has moved around a little bit, 710 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: but just in terms of how I project out these fights. 711 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: The three most public underdogs this week were due to Kova, 712 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: the fight that we just talk about, with Matthews against Bazuka, 713 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: and then also Patrotsky going against Jacob alcoun. But of 714 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: the three, the one that I like most is the 715 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: non public favorite is Melissa Gato. I don't really think 716 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: due to COB's physicality has translated as well to the 717 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: UFC level as it did regionally. I don't really like 718 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: how her takedown offense looked in her last fight against 719 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: she and New Fray. She wasn't able to do anything 720 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: against Fray in terms of the takedown and sort of 721 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: abandon that game plan. Still ended up winning the fight, 722 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: but wasn't overly impressive in the victory. Gotto has lost 723 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: her past couple of UFC fights, but she is the 724 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: much better striker in this matchup. I think she's going 725 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: to be landing significantly more, and honestly, I think there's 726 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: a chance she's the better grappler too, and she may 727 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: be able to get on top of Dukova. The one 728 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: problem with Gotto is when she does get taken down, 729 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: she's comfortable spending time on her reck and riding out rounds, 730 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: and that is why I would imagine some people have 731 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: bet due to COVID here with the expectation that she 732 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: is going to land takedowns, get on top, and be 733 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: able to hold position. However, I think Gotto is likely 734 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: to land takedowns and get on top, and I think 735 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: she's capable of reversing position if the fight gets on 736 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: the mad So Gotto as the better striker, the one 737 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: likeler to be landing damage minus one forty. I projected 738 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: this line closer to minus two fifteen, so a pretty 739 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: big edge in terms of how I projected, like get 740 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: up to about minus one seventy. Don't love it, but 741 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: certainly have to go against a very public underdog this week. Billy, 742 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: just curious why you bet you to cover earlier the 743 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: week and how you feel about the line of current prising. 744 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean earlier in the week is primarily a 745 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: system play. You know, when I'm doing this article on Monday, 746 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 4: I haven't had a chance to watch a ton of fights. 747 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: You know, obviously I know who these fighters are and 748 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: can remember some of their stuff. But you know, women's 749 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: lighter weight class fight likely to go to decision due 750 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: to covis two to zero in the Ufcity. Not great wins, 751 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: but you know, looked fine at plus one thirty six. 752 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: I think the current odds I would definitely lean towards 753 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: Gotto is the stronger money line play. It's just not 754 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: enough plus money coming back where you go, well, let's 755 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 4: hope the judge screw something up or we get a 756 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: weird outcome, which is really what we're saying when we 757 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 4: take some of these thinner ones at big plus money. 758 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 4: I am more confident in her being the better grappler. 759 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: I think she has like a sombo or judo base, 760 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: which are pretty much the same thing under different terminology. 761 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 4: You know, a huge throw in her UFC debut that 762 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: broke Estella Nona's arm. That was awesome. I've probably got 763 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 4: a little bit of blinders on that, being a guy 764 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: who trained some judo back in the day, but wouldn't 765 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: take her at the current price, you know, earlier in 766 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: the week. I'm happy with my closing line value, even 767 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: though in the UFC that doesn't always work out the 768 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 4: way we think it should. But I'm actually kind of 769 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 4: hoping the line falls even a little bit further and 770 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 4: I can just arbitrage. I'm not going a profit on 771 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: both sides. 772 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: Final thought on the main event, I saw a good 773 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: clip of you know, Fiora throwing beautiful judo toss. Thoughts 774 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: on her potentially being able to get Aaron Blanchfield down early. 775 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised at all if she got her 776 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 4: down early. You know, Blandfield came training BJJ. She's not 777 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: one of the Typically you don't see this with female 778 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: fighters because women's wrestling wasn't really even a thing twenty 779 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: years ago. But yeah, Fiora might be able to get takedowns. 780 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: That wouldn't surprise me at all. Just because you can 781 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: doesn't mean you show. I think Fiorro getting a takedown 782 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 4: would probably actually be to her detriment. You know, for 783 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: people who don't really do munch judo, they have very 784 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: quick exchanges on the ground. You get about ten fifteen 785 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: seconds to work and get a submission, then it gets 786 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 4: stood back up. Ju Jitsu's the total opposite. If you're 787 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: on the feet for too long, a lot of rule 788 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: sets put you down. So I think Lanchfield, once it's 789 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: on the mat has a big advantage. And as we 790 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: were talking about, the judges don't reward you for getting 791 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 4: the takedown. They occasionally and not always reward you for 792 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: what happens when you're on the ground. So yeah, my 793 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 4: dad always told me growing up, just because you can 794 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 4: do something doesn't mean you should. And that's the advice 795 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: I would give to Manan Phiro on the takedowns. Unless 796 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 4: it's like the end of the round, you just want to, 797 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 4: you know, get a decent slam whatever, maybe knock the 798 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 4: wind out of her. If I haven't heard the clacker got, 799 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 4: I'm not going for a takedown if I'm Phierro. 800 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 2: That's one of my other pet peeves, as fighters who 801 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: waste energy going for takedowns or trying to get up 802 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: from takedowns at the end of the round when it 803 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: isn't going to sway any of the scoring. They just 804 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: don't want the optics of ending up on their back, 805 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you just wasted an entire explosion for nothing. 806 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 4: So, I mean, we watched so many fights in like 807 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 4: the early two thousands into the teens where you could 808 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 4: be getting beat pretty clearly on the feet, you get 809 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: a take down with eight seconds left, and suddenly you 810 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 4: win the round. Like I joked about it with my 811 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 4: buddies playing the old UFC video games, we would both 812 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: just be shooting once we heard that clacker because whoever 813 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 4: got it, the judges more often than not would give 814 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: you the round, both in the game and in real life. 815 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: So I think that's one of those things like we 816 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 4: see it in all sports where there's some outdated strategies 817 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: that people just haven't quite adjusted to yet, and even 818 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: the commentators like Cornier and Cruise will get on there 819 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: and say, well, you know, there's great optics ending the 820 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 4: round on top. It doesn't matter anymore, but nobody told them. 821 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: Is that a Pavolovian thing from the gym, Like you 822 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: hear the clacker and you just you go for the takedown? 823 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: Is that something that is training to you, guys? 824 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: I can't recall ever training in a gym that gave 825 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 4: us a ten second warning. Most roundtimers have a beep 826 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: at thirty seconds to give you a warning. Most commercially available. 827 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if the big UFC camps have like 828 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 4: a dude with a clacker, and maybe they actually do 829 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 4: train that, but that was never anything we did other 830 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 4: than joking about. How you know, if you get the 831 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 4: last takedown, it's an instant win. 832 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 3: For the UFC. 833 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: Betting proven The Action Network podcast presented by BETTMGM. Thank 834 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: you to Billy Ward. You can find all of my 835 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: picks all of his picks in the award winning Action 836 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: Network app. Well also have content on actionnetwork dot com. 837 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: You can find Billy's luck ratings. You can find my 838 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 2: main event preview. You can find our best bets for 839 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: this weekend's card. 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