Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.
Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks.
Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, it's your girl a j holiday. What's up?
Speaker 2: Tam Bam, y'all is tammam. I love y'all so so,
Speaker 2: so so very much.
Speaker 1: Damn slam.
Speaker 2: Let you do AJ You look very tan do I?
Speaker 1: THISI line? Okay? I went to put a reco this weekend,
Speaker 1: a little last minute little tings, y'all. I fasted up
Speaker 1: to my trip to I fasted from last week's Sunday
Speaker 1: to Thursday, okay, before the tripe that is a line.
Speaker 1: One thing y'all could count on is that I'm a
Speaker 1: beating me every day. It ain't no different. It's no different,
Speaker 1: It's no different. The energy gonna always be the same.
Speaker 2: A eating fish is nicer than.
Speaker 1: I really ain't too much goddamn seafood this weekend too, man.
Speaker 1: I really want to try not to even eat seafood
Speaker 1: no more. For real.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know How'm gonna do that being a fish
Speaker 1: had at all, but I'm gonna figure it out. But
Speaker 1: I had a great time in Puerto Rico, very very
Speaker 1: very great time. And what I realized, you know, fasting
Speaker 1: and going out there feeling really really uh euphoric mentally,
Speaker 1: I can have everything I fucking want. Pod Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: the feeling gets the blissing, right. So like when people
Speaker 1: be manifesting, you know, they say, you gotta say the
Speaker 1: words and all that, but you gotta feel like you
Speaker 1: that bitch bitch out there with a bikini on a
Speaker 1: backfat not giving a ship bitch.
Speaker 2: It all starts in the mind first.
Speaker 1: Yep, And you just gotta you gotta really feel anything
Speaker 1: you really want, you gotta feel like that's what you deserve.
Speaker 1: So that's just how I'm stepping going forward, right, Not
Speaker 1: that I haven't in the past, but what I realize
Speaker 1: is maybe just maybe even though I always knew what
Speaker 1: I deserved, I just wouldn't put wasn't putting it on
Speaker 1: the forefront.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, your consciousness.
Speaker 1: Or just just just allowing things that I don't fucking
Speaker 1: deserve out of other people for fucking what it is
Speaker 1: my way or the highway going forward, because my highway
Speaker 1: is good, right, I'm devil shitting on you. So you
Speaker 1: don't got to worry about that over here. I just
Speaker 1: want reciprocity, and I think that's what most good people
Speaker 1: want in this life. And you can have it. You
Speaker 1: can get all the things. So yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: great time, met some nice people. It's some really good food.
Speaker 1: And you know, Puerto Rico just is just Miami a
Speaker 1: little bit. You know what I'm saying, It's just a
Speaker 1: quick glow flight. I've never been shipped for the weekend
Speaker 1: for real is Puerto Ricans. Matter of fact, the city
Speaker 1: of San Juan is overrated, right, so we you gotta
Speaker 1: kind of like drive out to go to the other
Speaker 1: beaches and like the raw more blow it out, more
Speaker 1: rural rural areas, horseback ride and all that. Ship Like,
Speaker 1: there's other parts of Puerto Rico other than San Juan.
Speaker 1: So if you do go explore, I think next time
Speaker 1: I go, I don't even want to stay in San
Speaker 1: Juan again.
Speaker 2: No, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It's a quick it's a quick trip. Maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Barbatos next, bitch. I keep saying that,
Speaker 1: but that's my next trip soon.
Speaker 2: Your weekend was much more eventful than mine. All I
Speaker 2: did was, you know, it was a holiday weekend, everybody
Speaker 2: was partying, so everybody wanted to hear it done. So
Speaker 2: I was busy working Friday and Saturday, and then I
Speaker 2: just had some late night gym sessions, like I went
Speaker 2: Friday night. I went to the gym at Life, like
Speaker 2: eleven forty at night, and I was in there till
Speaker 2: like one in the morning. And it was this nigga
Speaker 2: in there, and he was like, he looked like mister
Speaker 2: t I swear to god, he looked like mister t Son.
Speaker 2: And he had a big asshole in the back of
Speaker 2: his pants and he have on no draws.
Speaker 1: Them niggas definitely be free balling in the gym okay.
Speaker 2: Looking waist and his ass sweaty ass. I could see
Speaker 2: his ass out the bag. I was like scared.
Speaker 1: He might have had a thong on.
Speaker 2: He might have had on the thong, but I know
Speaker 2: I see his black ass hagging out the back of
Speaker 2: his pants with a big hole, like I know, you
Speaker 2: know that hole is in your ass.
Speaker 1: Why you ain't say something to him? You gotta look
Speaker 1: out for the brothers.
Speaker 2: He got a big ass hole on his ass. Don't
Speaker 2: give a buck. I minded my business.
Speaker 1: How the hell can you work out that late ass
Speaker 1: still go to sleep. I can't might like adrenaline and
Speaker 1: be running.
Speaker 2: I was tired. After I came back, I showered and
Speaker 2: I was lights out. That's the latest I've ever gone.
Speaker 2: But I was just bored and I didn't And the
Speaker 2: reason I ain't go party is because I was like,
Speaker 2: I got work tomorrow, so I don't want to get up.
Speaker 2: I don't want to party, but I'm also not ready
Speaker 2: to go to bed, so let me just get a
Speaker 2: burning And that was it. Went to the gym. Saturday,
Speaker 2: I went to a cookout. Went to a cookout. It
Speaker 2: was a family function, so it was like Grandma and them.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it wasn't no lit cookout. It was
Speaker 2: a very family oriented cookout. And then uh, and it
Speaker 2: was in a very rich community. And we got on
Speaker 2: her All of them have like the little go not
Speaker 2: the go carts, the golf carts, like it seemed like
Speaker 2: that's just a pre requisite for this neighborhood. So we
Speaker 2: had our little drinks and we didne went out on
Speaker 2: the golf cart and we went to like the golf
Speaker 2: club in her community, and there was like a firework show,
Speaker 2: and I was just like a hig neighbor all the
Speaker 2: whites because it was no the whites. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: always and then that was him. That was my weekend.
Speaker 2: Pretty much. Let's get in the same let's do it.
Speaker 1: We got going on, y' Also, did he get the
Speaker 1: standing ovation from his fellow inmates. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys heard, but uh, and we didn't touch on
Speaker 1: this last week because I think the news kind of
Speaker 1: came out after. Yeah, we had already did our episode.
Speaker 1: So Sean Diddy Coombs got a standing ovation from fellow
Speaker 1: inmate inmates when the music Mogul returned to jail after
Speaker 1: being acquitted of sex trafficking and racketeering in his federal
Speaker 1: trial in New York, providing that his lawyer says might
Speaker 1: have been the best thing he could have he could
Speaker 1: do for incos story of black men in America. So
Speaker 1: you know, people don't really beat the feds for real.
Speaker 1: And though he didn't get all the charges dropped because
Speaker 1: he definitely was convicted of He's found guilty of transportation
Speaker 1: to engage in prostitution, but was acquitted on the most
Speaker 1: serious charges, which carried potential life in prison. Now I've
Speaker 1: been saying from the beginning that since the trial started,
Speaker 1: Diddy was gonna get off because this literally, like the prosecution,
Speaker 1: their whole shit was based off of, like, how y'all
Speaker 1: going to prove a Rico charge? The defense was like,
Speaker 1: this is a lifestyle that all these adults were partaken in,
Speaker 1: so how can we charge this one man, you know,
Speaker 1: with a Rico I think that Cassie probably probably I
Speaker 1: never understood how Cassie got how much you have a
Speaker 1: twenty thirty million dollars out of him and then still
Speaker 1: end up testifying in a criminal case where I would
Speaker 1: think that she is probably a co defendant, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So she probably cooperated with the with
Speaker 1: the US government against Ditty obviously, right, And that's now
Speaker 1: why she she's writing letters to the I mean, to
Speaker 1: the judge, because she doesn't want him to get out.
Speaker 1: So Diddy could still possibly get time. So he has
Speaker 1: time served. He got ten months time serve, that's all.
Speaker 1: That's how long he's been in prison to this point.
Speaker 1: But they haven't done any sentencing or anything like that
Speaker 1: on the few charges he was actually charged with the
Speaker 1: biggest things out right, they couldn't prove Rico in racketeering,
Speaker 1: which was always some bullshit as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: I think the first thing they did was tear Diddy's
Speaker 1: camera room up at his house because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people in there, probably more powerful than him, right
Speaker 1: that he could shed some light on their fucking lifestyles.
Speaker 1: And I think that's.
Speaker 2: What I was waiting for to come out. We never
Speaker 2: got much of that. We heard a few names dropped,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't much.
Speaker 1: Who was quiet, you know, because a lot of people
Speaker 1: be trying to talk shit about Lebron.
Speaker 2: It was real quiet, you know. So I don't know, No,
Speaker 2: I mean, I can appreciate a black man beating the system,
Speaker 2: which is rare, you know, But we did watch him
Speaker 2: beat that girl and drag her down the hallway. So
Speaker 2: it wasn't like a huge victory for me, you know.
Speaker 2: It was a victory for black men against the fears,
Speaker 2: I guess, But I mean, I still I ain't forgot
Speaker 2: ring that little woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if she was a willing participant, we
Speaker 1: saw her like really physically trying to leave and you
Speaker 1: restrained her, stumped her out. We saw that shit. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we if we saw that you did that in
Speaker 1: a public hotel, hallway. God knows what you've done. Like,
Speaker 1: I know, there was another situation where he like came
Speaker 1: to her homegirl's house and dragged her up out of
Speaker 1: there too, you know what I'm saying. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: her home where her friend was staying at her something,
Speaker 1: but he came and did the same thing essentially like
Speaker 1: she at some point she couldn't just leave, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So even we also see all members of day
Speaker 2: twenty six crime, we still don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: camp to do, but.
Speaker 1: Yoe, whatever it was, and not to mention all the people,
Speaker 1: all these male prostitutes now trying to sue Cassie for STDs.
Speaker 1: So I saw an abortion somewhere, like she had an
Speaker 1: abortion with something like dog. You were literally like an
Speaker 1: object that Diddy thought he owned.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, she thought.
Speaker 1: And in her in her defense, right, this is her defense,
Speaker 1: she thought that they were in a relationship and this
Speaker 1: was some lifestyleship. But I guess at some point she
Speaker 1: realized that Diddy didn't really love her. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's just your your thing and your help
Speaker 1: feeding this thing in me, right, this super freak. She
Speaker 1: thought they were engaging in this stuff together. I guess.
Speaker 1: I remember reading a transcript from her testimony saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess it started to be like when
Speaker 1: they were done, he would just leave like it's no,
Speaker 1: like there's no other reason. I know, it's no Like
Speaker 1: would you want him to cuddle with you after he
Speaker 1: just watch you get smashed by another nigga? I'm confused,
Speaker 1: crazy random ass dicks.
Speaker 2: It was a man I saw on I think it
Speaker 2: was on Gossip in the City, and he was saying
Speaker 2: that how he was suing Cassie and he looked.
Speaker 1: Dark skinned guy with a lot of teeth in his mouth.
Speaker 2: His mouth, girl, Oh my.
Speaker 1: Chat chat chat.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder how mister Fine feels watching all this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But them others be into
Speaker 1: this type of shit. They're a little bit more forgiving.
Speaker 1: You know, they'd be doing wife swapping all type of ship.
Speaker 1: So it might be right up his alleys, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, something about it might turn them on that
Speaker 1: all these men. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I hope so because if it don't.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Diddy, I don't know, hopefully Diddy comes
Speaker 1: out and he can maybe. I don't know. I always
Speaker 1: I never thought Diddy was a good person.
Speaker 2: Okay, well he's gonna have to come out and do
Speaker 2: something really great for humanity after this, you know. That's
Speaker 2: that's what he should do, is just do like something
Speaker 2: really huge for humanity.
Speaker 1: You know, like what like you don't want a fucking pageant.
Speaker 1: I would just.
Speaker 2: So in world hunger, my nigga.
Speaker 1: Girl ain't gonna never be enough. It's never gonna be
Speaker 1: a fucking enough of these niggas. So the best Diddy
Speaker 1: he could do is just I don't know, maybe he
Speaker 1: need to go do some yoga. Maybe he should become
Speaker 1: a monk goddamn self.
Speaker 2: Start over house for former prostitutes or something like that
Speaker 2: where they could come in live for free and get
Speaker 2: like on their feet and get like therapy and something
Speaker 2: like that, like create a housing environment for people who
Speaker 2: are broken in that way. I mean, that would be
Speaker 2: life helpful.
Speaker 1: I would like to see more and more organizations that
Speaker 1: help men, that help abusers right before they even get there.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know what I'm saying, Like maybe it needs
Speaker 1: to be because I wanted this guy know here. He
Speaker 1: has an organization it does a multiple multiple things, but
Speaker 1: he like helps people who abuse people like help them
Speaker 1: get help to where they're not violating people. And so
Speaker 1: it needs to be maybe maybe more people need to
Speaker 1: invest in those type of organizations I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: to try to try to proactively, you know, stop people.
Speaker 2: Right before it starts.
Speaker 1: Oh remember that movie Minority Report. Have you ever watched that? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Go watch Minority Report? Because I feel like this is
Speaker 1: what this is where we're heading now right now, right
Speaker 1: So it's like them predicting somebody committing a crime and
Speaker 1: stopping them before they actually do it. Like they already
Speaker 1: know your thoughts. You know, we're putting all this shit
Speaker 1: into these AI based platforms, so they already know like
Speaker 1: who you already know your mental So like say, for instance,
Speaker 1: this man gets home from work and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill my wife when I get home. The police
Speaker 1: is already there when you get home, and you're going
Speaker 1: to jail for having a thought about killing that bitch
Speaker 1: and you was really about to do it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Minority Report, that's a good movie. I think it came
Speaker 1: out in like two thousand and nine. Anyway, what else
Speaker 1: we got going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the city Boys are up them? So oh yeah,
Speaker 2: a wild story straight out of Netflix, Out of a
Speaker 2: Netflix docky series just popped off. A man reportedly managed
Speaker 2: to juggle two wives, three fiances, fifteen girlfriends and apartridge
Speaker 2: in the Pear Tree Bitch, and none of them knew
Speaker 2: about each other. How the fuck that is? So many women?
Speaker 1: All right, and that just pers men like headaches. Huh,
Speaker 1: that just proves that men love headaches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because how are you? That's too many? That's too fast,
Speaker 2: Hold on love, that's too fast. All right. So, according
Speaker 2: to reports, the man, whose identity hasn't been released yet
Speaker 2: for legal reasons, was living in multi city, multi love life,
Speaker 2: carefully crafting different names, job stories, and even separate social
Speaker 2: media lives to keep each relationship isolated. Some women thought
Speaker 2: he was a traveling businessman, some thought he worked night shift,
Speaker 2: and others were told he was a military.
Speaker 1: Contractor from them for a year or two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the deception was so elaborate that he apparently had
Speaker 2: different phones, rented apartments under aliases, and had a rotating
Speaker 2: schedule for visits and trips. All right. So it all
Speaker 2: came crashing down when two of the women accidentally connected
Speaker 2: through a mut mutual friends post. Did some investigating and
Speaker 2: discovered they were dating the same man. From there it snowball.
Speaker 2: More women came forward, some realizing they were engaged while
Speaker 2: others were in exclusive relationships. Now the man is facing
Speaker 2: potential fraud charges, and all his romantic chaos is being
Speaker 2: pieced together like a true crime web. The wildest part,
Speaker 2: some of the women are allegedly considering forming a support
Speaker 2: group to warn or others about men like him. The
Speaker 2: internet is calling him the than notes of cheating.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know how I feel about like people
Speaker 1: finessing or like I just if you can be finessed,
Speaker 1: it probably should happen. In how the fuck? Why am
Speaker 1: I homegirls? She said? Her ex said he had a
Speaker 1: gym and Charlotte, all the things, like all these things
Speaker 1: he lied about. You cannot tell me that, nigga, because
Speaker 1: when are we going to the gym and Charlotte? Right?
Speaker 1: When are we going? Like? I feel like they know
Speaker 1: who they can do these things too. Right? They probably
Speaker 1: sat and talked to these women. He probably sat and
Speaker 1: talked to these women for a long time or maybe
Speaker 1: even in a DM setting, like he got to know
Speaker 1: them and he knew he could finesse him like this,
Speaker 1: because bitch, you cannot get over on me like that.
Speaker 1: I'm too nosy.
Speaker 2: He're just too good of a liar, Like they believe
Speaker 2: their own last this man probably believed when he was
Speaker 2: with this woman, this is who he was.
Speaker 1: So he got a split personality. So maybe he has
Speaker 1: an insanity case.
Speaker 2: Possibly you better get his lawyer to say he got split.
Speaker 1: Split this was multiple personality disorder, like he was just
Speaker 1: a whole nother person. All these people like why do
Speaker 1: you I never understood like people who who tell like
Speaker 1: traceable lies, And I guess it wasn't traceable because I
Speaker 1: wonder how long, Like how long is the longest relationship?
Speaker 1: And who's he actually married to? I don't have to
Speaker 1: watch this to come out is crazy. That's the type
Speaker 1: of shit I'd be interested in for real, Like I'd
Speaker 1: be wanting to understand people with psychology when they do
Speaker 1: shit like look get in your brain.
Speaker 2: You gotta love dick for that.
Speaker 1: Many people like carry had probably even got no Dick.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like they're just be in love with
Speaker 1: the idea of people like he probably just was feeding
Speaker 1: them an idea.
Speaker 2: He must have been real funny too. He gotta be
Speaker 2: good with the jokes. Fifteen weeks, three fans in two US.
Speaker 2: That's cool, that's insanity.
Speaker 1: Shame you can't keep up with that many He got kids,
Speaker 1: funny and you have kids, children.
Speaker 2: But I can't wait for this to come out, y'all.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right, y'all. So multiple blog outlets black
Speaker 1: okay have been reporting on Jonathan uh dupatin the dupetin Dupain.
Speaker 1: I think that sea pronounces his last name, but anyway,
Speaker 1: he's the voice behind a popular rich and Unemployed podcast. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: according to reports, the FBI allegedly rated his residence in
Speaker 1: connection to an alleged ten million dollar fraud investigation that
Speaker 1: has reportedly been quietly unfolded for years. The Feds allegedly
Speaker 1: claim they've been tracking him for a while, monitoring transactions,
Speaker 1: bank accounts, and even content excuse me an even content
Speaker 1: from his podcast. Let me stop saying certain shit on
Speaker 1: he Okay. While fans are still in disbelief, critics say
Speaker 1: the flashy lifestyle was a red flag from the start.
Speaker 1: Many are asking was it really motivation or manipulation all along?
Speaker 2: Well, he said he was rich and unemployed, So like.
Speaker 1: How niggas show us? Now I know he had like
Speaker 1: actual guest on this show that were scammers. Okay, I
Speaker 1: came across plenty clips when niggas talking about CPNS and
Speaker 1: all these little like grade line gray area little business things,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I can't stand. I
Speaker 1: watched Black people would shot the fuck up about things sometimes,
Speaker 1: like why are y'all on a major platform talking about
Speaker 1: these things that white folks have been doing forever? Right,
Speaker 1: and we finally figure out the game, even a little smidget,
Speaker 1: they gonna change the rules every time the minute we
Speaker 1: get onto some shit, y'all, niggas gotta go on a
Speaker 1: whole platform. Have y'all not even doing oops, have y'all
Speaker 1: not even doing any things? Y'all just talking about it
Speaker 1: now and selling information right scamming the next black person.
Speaker 1: This is why I don't like y'all fucking scammers, cause
Speaker 1: y'all be scamming motherfuckers that's in proximity to you other
Speaker 1: black people. This nigga was unknowingly a federal informant, because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if they're using his content from the podcast,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he gonna have the same defense
Speaker 1: like Young Thug with the rap songs and shit but
Speaker 1: if they're using that content, he's definitely had has had
Speaker 1: some criminals on that podcast.
Speaker 2: I liked him though, so I hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope head.
Speaker 2: Because the last time we saw him on last year
Speaker 2: at the Podcast Festival, he just had a baby, so
Speaker 2: you know, I hate that for him. Listen, I'm not
Speaker 2: a huge fan of scammers just because they used to
Speaker 2: piss me off in the club because they used to
Speaker 2: be like looking down on regular everyday working people, you know,
Speaker 2: like y'all hand affoord this y'all can And even though
Speaker 2: I'm also benefiting from the fruits of their labor in
Speaker 2: this section shit, I still was like, stop acting like
Speaker 2: he's better than the people who were actually worked for
Speaker 2: their money. You're a thief essentially, you know.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't like thieves, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And half the niggas never have cash. All they have
Speaker 1: is cards. They're saying he did like unemployment scams, so
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like PPP, you know, like the the COVID
Speaker 1: shit probably is what he got caught up for. Somebody
Speaker 1: saw somebody commented and said that this nigga, this nigga
Speaker 1: scammed the government and then literally opened up a part
Speaker 1: scam the government to open up a podcast Unemployed Richard
Speaker 1: Unemployed or whatever the name of his show is. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like the scammers because you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: So maybe you can have some type of defense.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. You gotta when somebody
Speaker 1: like you ever got your identity stolen before?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I've had like people like use my ship and then
Speaker 1: I have to like cut it off with like to
Speaker 1: actually get your identity stolen.
Speaker 2: No, no, like like not like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you really got to prove it wasn't you,
Speaker 1: So you've got approve it account.
Speaker 2: I had an email on there that I don't know
Speaker 2: who the fuck that is, and I wasn't able to
Speaker 2: change it, so I just closed it down the pay
Speaker 2: per account because what is there? Who is this?
Speaker 1: You know what? I do think? I think some of
Speaker 1: these companies, the corporation itself, like a PayPal, be trying
Speaker 1: to scam the users. I swear to god. Coinbase write
Speaker 1: the app where you buy your when you go trade
Speaker 1: crypto and stuff. They tried to scam me, but I
Speaker 1: look for these type of things, right. They literally put
Speaker 1: an email address to they put the email address there.
Speaker 1: I didn't write like verify, send then email to Verify,
Speaker 1: and they had like an extra letter in my email address,
Speaker 1: And when I clicked out of it right and went
Speaker 1: back into it, my correct email address was there. I
Speaker 1: didn't change anything, So had I had submit right, whatever
Speaker 1: verification code would have went to that other email address.
Speaker 1: And this is on their app. This is not on
Speaker 1: the web based nothing. This is on coinbase. So I
Speaker 1: feel PayPal probably was trying to scam your ass and
Speaker 1: just then just make it look like a scammer took
Speaker 1: your account over.
Speaker 2: To your.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm scamming the corporations. Don't be scamming people.
Speaker 1: And lead them my fucking federal government alone. Okay, if
Speaker 1: y'all gonna do some ship, lead them, lead them people
Speaker 1: money alone. Okay, pay it back, nigga. Something You not
Speaker 1: made a couple of YouTube checks. Nigga, you should have
Speaker 1: been making some minimum payments at least. Now you're fucking
Speaker 1: now you This is why people need to say the
Speaker 1: fucking Internet, Okay, everybody is not balling on the Internet
Speaker 1: in real life. It's a lot of people for nessing, right,
Speaker 1: So don't.
Speaker 2: Be Atlanta Atlanta niggas like listen I love y'all Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I love y'all Atlanta listeners. You're gonna come to a
Speaker 2: show for y'all real.
Speaker 1: Soon, and don't be using no goddamn fake debit cards
Speaker 1: buying no tickets, ticket charging back.
Speaker 2: You will be in a high rise apartment, all of them,
Speaker 2: but it'll be seven of them living in a two
Speaker 2: bedroom so they can stay in the All right, what
Speaker 2: are y'all doing? Like this don't make sense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't renting cars, no car, just renting cars paying
Speaker 1: astronomical Like you could have three cars for the price
Speaker 1: you're paying for this one rental to look like you
Speaker 1: got money, which is what our priorities. Fucked up. It's
Speaker 1: just fucked up.
Speaker 2: I like recently when I was in New York and
Speaker 2: I went to this event and there was this fine
Speaker 2: guy that I met. He was really nice or whatever,
Speaker 2: but he had on a big ass fake chain, A
Speaker 2: big ass fake chain. Why you got that. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take that off. That's gonna make your neck green. You
Speaker 2: don't need no chain. You look good, you're handsome, you're
Speaker 2: a handsome man.
Speaker 1: But he's probably insecure, it's right, so they put the
Speaker 1: chain on to make themselves feel secure. It's some niggas
Speaker 1: who can't lead a house without that.
Speaker 2: Chain listening, a big ass fake.
Speaker 1: Chain, like I know, you know, I know that ain't real.
Speaker 2: Boy. That ship flipped over and that metal was so
Speaker 2: rusty on the back.
Speaker 1: Boy, Now you could visually see that it wasn't real.
Speaker 2: That's on the backside, Like the front still is glistening
Speaker 2: a little bit, but that when it flipped and you've
Speaker 2: seen all that rest on the back.
Speaker 1: You go, that's sad.
Speaker 2: Time to go back and get a new one, baby
Speaker 2: or something. I don't know. That looks bad.
Speaker 1: That's like a bad bitch with some chewed up heels
Speaker 1: on like like a mouse and chewing on the bottom.
Speaker 1: Only only women can see it. Niggas be like, that's
Speaker 1: a bad betch or ass fat whole time we looking
Speaker 1: at that heel. Bit. I know what your kitchen looked
Speaker 1: like because of that heel, I know what your microwaves
Speaker 1: looked like. But your bathroom is filthy because of that heel.
Speaker 1: I'm judging you the scrape fat ass though, fad ass.
Speaker 1: What the fuck we talk about this week? Man? Stop
Speaker 1: talking about these people.
Speaker 2: We're talking about having some discipline.
Speaker 1: What's that do I want that I want. I've been
Speaker 1: having some discipline, bitch.
Speaker 2: Listen, they don't know what it is. Well, when we
Speaker 2: come back, we're gonna explain exactly what discipline is. We'll
Speaker 2: be right back.
Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Okay, So this week we are talking
Speaker 1: about discipline and what is discipline. So some may think
Speaker 1: that it's like for men to have discipline over there, dick,
Speaker 1: and it is right, but also for women having discipline
Speaker 1: not to get on the dick. Right, We're trying to
Speaker 1: transfer that sexual energy into something else, right, some bitch,
Speaker 1: I don't know, write a movie, write a book, paint something,
Speaker 1: do something a little bit more meaningful, join the gym
Speaker 1: that part. Have you ever actually abstained from having sex,
Speaker 1: like for a long period of time, like intentionally though,
Speaker 1: because that's what Dick's a plant about. It's about intentionally.
Speaker 2: There are some.
Speaker 1: Bitches out here who can't get no dick. But if
Speaker 1: I mean intentionally abstaining from sex for a goal, yes
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: I recently did that. So last year got my heart broken,
Speaker 2: and then I got my foot broken, and then like
Speaker 2: the rest of the year, and then up until recently,
Speaker 2: I just was abstaining completely, like not wanting to participate
Speaker 2: in any type of physical intimacy whatsoever, you know, And
Speaker 2: not because I hate Dick or anything, because I love men.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love Dick. I love men
Speaker 2: and it's a part of them.
Speaker 1: But masculinity, I'm definitely in love with masculine.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like ubstaining was the best choice for that time. Well,
Speaker 2: one who, I ain't trying to fuck on crutch, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I had one foot for
Speaker 2: a couple of months, and they'll still hit you. They
Speaker 2: would still hit you, right, But I wasn't trying to
Speaker 2: do that. And then I just wasn't given. I was
Speaker 2: just I just had to do some internal work and
Speaker 2: that did not include somebody else sex, you know, So
Speaker 2: that really I was practicing, definitely practicing some discipline.
Speaker 1: You know. Uh. On an earlier episode, we talked about,
Speaker 1: you know how hoeing doesn't heal. This is when I
Speaker 1: was early one, so exactly, and we even got into
Speaker 1: like a little thing with a sister.
Speaker 2: Podcast wasn't no, it wasn't horror decisions.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, because they are younger than us, right,
Speaker 1: and you know, I can even see the difference now
Speaker 1: in Mandy and how she talked some of the shows
Speaker 1: I've seen and how they talk because hoeing doesn't heal
Speaker 1: like you could. You can be as sexually free as
Speaker 1: you want to be. Child, go ahead and do what
Speaker 1: the fuck you want to do if that make you happy.
Speaker 1: But usually you know, deep down the side, there is
Speaker 1: a reason why you're right. It's not just because you do.
Speaker 1: You really like sex that much. And I know there
Speaker 1: are sex workers. Like that's the only time I understand it.
Speaker 1: You know, because we talked about the difference between being
Speaker 1: a slut and a hole. I respect holes. Oh no,
Speaker 1: the sluts is like you want sex that bad, you
Speaker 1: don't even want nothing, Yes, because there is a profession,
Speaker 1: like they're getting paid. Like holes are necessary. Holes are
Speaker 1: absolutely necessary. What do you mean it's good for the ecosystem?
Speaker 2: How you know?
Speaker 1: I don't want to upset wives, but holes we saving
Speaker 1: marriages sometimes, you know you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you just get a little double dab on the side.
Speaker 1: You could pay somebody to shut the fuck up, and
Speaker 1: you go back home and be happy and do all
Speaker 1: the husband shit for your for your wife.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect holes. It's the sluts, I'd be like, girls,
Speaker 1: so you like sex that much, you're not doing it
Speaker 1: for a financial gain, like you just really just want
Speaker 1: to have sex with all these people. That's when I
Speaker 1: don't understand it. I'll never understand the psychology of just
Speaker 1: popping pussy for free.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I respect any of it, but girl,
Speaker 2: I get it if that's how you're doing it, if
Speaker 2: you're doing it to earn money and it's for a living,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I don't respect it necessarily.
Speaker 1: I respect it, yeah, but it doesn't heal. Right, So
Speaker 1: if you are in a deep dark place and you're
Speaker 1: trying to find some mental stability, some clarity, like Dick
Speaker 1: will knock clarity out the window, like you will be digmatized. Right,
Speaker 1: So at some point, I guess most women, right, you'll
Speaker 1: get to a point to where you don't, you know,
Speaker 1: you start realizing like man and not some all women,
Speaker 1: because some women they probably only had one part in
Speaker 1: their whole lives. I'm not one of those women, right,
Speaker 1: tell me, definitely is not one of those When wits
Speaker 1: hey hey, hey from a mixed company, you run it out, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I mean you get to a point like, man,
Speaker 1: what do you really having sex for it? Because when
Speaker 1: when was it? When was how old were you when
Speaker 1: you had your first orgasm? You think, like a real
Speaker 1: one from intercourse with a man.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was well into my twenties, like
Speaker 2: late twenties, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, like we probably was definitely off the vibrators. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like from a man with warm skin
Speaker 1: and a snicker, like I probably was thirty, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's almost like you fucking all
Speaker 1: that time for what, right? For what? You're not even
Speaker 1: you're not even feeling the thing that you're not even
Speaker 1: reaching your climax. Really, I might, you might feel a
Speaker 1: little tiny bit, but that shit is way more intense
Speaker 1: when you are actually just even having sex with intention.
Speaker 2: So I just want to put I want to read
Speaker 2: to them what this definition of discipline is. So it says,
Speaker 2: for women, discipline represents a powerful reclaiming of choice, energy,
Speaker 2: and intention when it comes to sex, relationships, and self worth.
Speaker 1: Right, that's beautiful, But some people will say that just
Speaker 1: because I'm having sex with all these people, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean I don't value myself. I have a conversation with
Speaker 1: one of my siblings all the time, and I told her, like,
Speaker 1: if your esteem was you know, healthier, you wouldn't let
Speaker 1: all these people have access to you. You'd feel too
Speaker 1: good about yourself to even be dealing with the type
Speaker 1: of people you'd be fucking with. And she let me
Speaker 1: know just recently that even if she were to get
Speaker 1: a couple ms today or tomorrow, like, she's going to
Speaker 1: take some of them dicks with her. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you like sex that much, right, you really like that?
Speaker 2: But maybe some people do. I mean, I'm not one
Speaker 2: because I like to have a connection, you know, in
Speaker 2: order to have sex with somebody don't come easy, no
Speaker 2: pun intended.
Speaker 1: So yes, it's a conscious decision to be intentional about
Speaker 1: who you are sharing your body with, right, And if
Speaker 1: you are trying to level up in life, I really
Speaker 1: feel like the the first thing you gotta do, Like
Speaker 1: if you are let's just for example, if you are
Speaker 1: a single woman, right, single women be having sex just
Speaker 1: because you're single? To me, you ain't fucking okay. So
Speaker 1: if you are a single woman who is sexually active,
Speaker 1: try and refocusing that that energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gotta have.
Speaker 1: Something, you know, like exermon, you gotta have some dick sermon,
Speaker 1: and like if you decided to sleep with somebody, don't
Speaker 1: just do it all will and nearly because you having
Speaker 1: a good time, because.
Speaker 2: You know what, Also, you are like.
Speaker 1: Absorbing energy and so that's another part we're definitely gonna
Speaker 1: get into because that's like the most important part. So
Speaker 1: when you are searching for mental clarity, you can't really
Speaker 1: get it when you have engaged with all these other energy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, y'all got to do some
Speaker 1: Yoni cleanses and some spiritual baths during the next full moon.
Speaker 1: I've sent a couple of women on Instagram like my
Speaker 1: little spiritual bath recipe or y'all could come and actually.
Speaker 2: Wait, what's a cleanse? Tell the people what a clean
Speaker 2: So so they.
Speaker 1: Have like you can do like the little steam So
Speaker 1: a lot of the estheticians and stuff like that. Now
Speaker 1: they have like the little toilet you sit on, and
Speaker 1: they got all little PRBs. Yeah, like like a netty
Speaker 1: pot for the kucci. They got all these herbs and
Speaker 1: all these different things. But you know those things could
Speaker 1: possibly physically, it could be doing something physically. But the
Speaker 1: thing is, and.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that, dude, I'm just like a
Speaker 2: little berries down it is. But mentally, the way.
Speaker 1: You release right these energies is through the mind. So
Speaker 1: if even if you're doing this thing and you think
Speaker 1: that it's it's going to work, it's going to help, right,
Speaker 1: So it may not be physically doing something to the kucci.
Speaker 1: So if you smell some shit down there, go try
Speaker 1: dogs around fuer us to putting them repositories out there,
Speaker 1: trying to clear energies. No, you got an STD a
Speaker 1: sexually transmitted demon and disease probably, okay, you do both.
Speaker 1: You do you only cleanse and you need to go
Speaker 1: to the damn doc. But go to the doctor first
Speaker 1: and foremost. So I think a lot of people if
Speaker 1: you are wanting, like I said, if you were trying,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to level up, I think the first
Speaker 1: thing you should do is just start fastening from certain things,
Speaker 1: and fasting from people absolutely sometimes is the best thing
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: And I think changing your diet too, like fasting in
Speaker 2: that way like you know, doing like a what is
Speaker 2: it twelve sixteen or something like that where you.
Speaker 1: Oh, like intermittent like interimatet and fast. Yeah, innimate and
Speaker 1: faster changing your diet.
Speaker 2: Exercise. Listen, even while I was ubstaining from sex, I
Speaker 2: incorporated exercise into my life and that shit brought me
Speaker 2: so much joy out of the art. So when you exercise,
Speaker 2: your body releases endorphins and doorphins. Yeah, and it just
Speaker 2: really changed my mood all the time. And now it's
Speaker 2: just like an intergral part of my life. Like I
Speaker 2: feel like I gotta go to the gym because I
Speaker 2: want that like that dopamine, you know, so try that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I guess people shouldn't look at it as if like
Speaker 1: they're depriving themselves of sex. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You have to when you when you're practicing discipline, it
Speaker 1: really has nothing.
Speaker 2: To do with punished it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it don't have nothing. It doesn't really have anything
Speaker 1: to do with anybody else. It's about about you, right,
Speaker 1: So that could possibly be one piece of it, but
Speaker 1: it's really about you and right so especially when you're
Speaker 1: trying to manifest, like if you are not having sex
Speaker 1: and manifesting at the same time, you having sex for
Speaker 1: no reason either.
Speaker 2: Bit ch.
Speaker 1: I'll be saying stuff while I'm having sex all type
Speaker 1: of magic.
Speaker 2: What should be saying?
Speaker 1: I try to you are supposed to like that's what
Speaker 1: the whole tantra shit, and you know that's the episode
Speaker 1: I also want to do. I want to have like
Speaker 1: a Tantra coach on. Right. So the female orgasm is
Speaker 1: like a mystery, right, and we do misuse it because
Speaker 1: you could use it to change the world we collectively. Okay,
Speaker 1: so orgy, but come with intention, right, not just for
Speaker 1: sexual gratitude, yeah, pleasure? Right if we actually use the
Speaker 1: orgasm like it's meant to be used, Like the Egyptians
Speaker 1: knew what they were doing with that shit. They probably
Speaker 1: made the pyramids off of an orgasm, and I should
Speaker 1: just start moving together.
Speaker 2: Built to pyramids, everybody, Rubuchi at the same time, we're
Speaker 2: gonna build a pyramids.
Speaker 1: What happens when you letting men like these men they
Speaker 1: just started a war with Iran like they the male orgasm.
Speaker 1: I mean they come and they still go do stupid shit.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think you know, as I love men,
Speaker 2: But do you think we would be warring the way
Speaker 2: we wore on earth if men didn't exist?
Speaker 1: No? You know, And that's why I think a lot
Speaker 1: of men are. You know, that's a whole other episode,
Speaker 1: but I'll get into it right for two seconds. That's
Speaker 1: why there's like a struggle with the masculine and feminine
Speaker 1: right now, right because there was a time and I
Speaker 1: really don't don't think that the feminine isn't in play. Femininity.
Speaker 2: I believe the.
Speaker 1: I believe it is right, But I think also women
Speaker 1: have started to acquiesce to men and what they want,
Speaker 1: and we've lost our place, right, We've forgotten who we
Speaker 1: are because they the book says that the man is
Speaker 1: the leader, right, but they are destroying everything. They're destroying
Speaker 1: the earth. Literally, man is destroying the earth, not women.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We give life, we don't
Speaker 1: take life. So if women were in charge, the reason
Speaker 1: why they say we can't be in charge is because
Speaker 1: we're not logical. Do you think firing a fucking missile
Speaker 1: on a whole bunch of innocent people is logical? It's not.
Speaker 1: That shit is hallademonic and there's no there's no h
Speaker 1: there's no soul or spirit involved with that type of shit.
Speaker 1: So women are definitely definitely connected to source a little
Speaker 1: bit more.
Speaker 2: And then you know, women even in the music. Don't
Speaker 2: you feel like the women in music are like trying
Speaker 2: to be like men. They sound like men, the things
Speaker 2: they talking about, the beast.
Speaker 1: They have acquiesced to the suggestions of men instead of
Speaker 1: standing in that feminine power.
Speaker 2: Don't win when you try to be a man. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: no shade to anybody, Like I'm not talking about like
Speaker 2: transgender transitioning or anything like that.
Speaker 1: That's the man that is patriarchy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but what I'm talking about is like the
Speaker 2: women who are like talking about like just being horrorsh
Speaker 2: and like I switch niggas every day and then nigga
Speaker 2: trying to get me pregnant, trying.
Speaker 1: To trap me and the playing B songs like that's
Speaker 1: something to be proud of.
Speaker 2: Yeah that shit is that shit you sent me was disgusting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's scary. But then I also was thinking that,
Speaker 2: so I was. I posted a picture of my I did.
Speaker 2: I finished seventy five hard y'all, So I posted a
Speaker 2: picture and I put some music in the background. It
Speaker 2: was some old shit that I listened to as a
Speaker 2: young girl, and it was never scared by Bone Crusher.
Speaker 2: And then after I played it, I liked it, and
Speaker 2: then I went back and listened to the lyrics. I'm
Speaker 2: outside of the club and you think I'm a punk,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go to my Chevy and open the
Speaker 2: trunk because I ain't never scared because I'm about to
Speaker 2: kill somebody. This is what we grew up and now
Speaker 2: we're raising children, and now the music is just even
Speaker 2: much more worse.
Speaker 1: So it just took a little bit more time. So
Speaker 1: we didn't understand as teenagers when our parents was like
Speaker 1: turn that rap crap off of when there was legislation
Speaker 1: being pasted or being challenged like by NWA in the courts,
Speaker 1: because they say it's a freedom of speech. But look
Speaker 1: where that freedom of speech has got us, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying super straight, So I think and
Speaker 1: we talked about this before, like the movie Shots touted
Speaker 1: ch Iraq where all the women sustained from having sex
Speaker 1: and it made the world better, Right, that's really what
Speaker 1: needs to happen. There would not be war right now.
Speaker 2: If everybody just took our pussy's bag and stopped fucking.
Speaker 2: I bet you would be a single bomb over or
Speaker 2: a hong or no bombs over back back, no bombs
Speaker 2: over the motherfucking place if everybody took their pussy bag, yeah,
Speaker 2: I promise, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be these outliers. Man. That's why we
Speaker 1: can't get men in line, because then you always have
Speaker 1: you do it to me, you do it to me,
Speaker 1: I be I listen, when I talk, I am talking
Speaker 1: from a super like It may not seem like it,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking from a super uh uh source of femininity, right,
Speaker 1: because we are not men. Well, hold on, because you
Speaker 1: always when I always say stuff like, well, the men
Speaker 1: like you always got the total opposite. I'm a woman, okay,
Speaker 1: so right, I'm not trying to well, but I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to speak to the perspective of men because I
Speaker 1: understand as a woman how we ended up here. It's
Speaker 1: because we started following man and instead of standing in
Speaker 1: our femininity and being women. Right. Not, femininity is not weak.
Speaker 2: I understand that. However, I just have a different perspective
Speaker 2: that does not make me not a woman or not
Speaker 2: am I feminine? No, No, I'm just respondib to what
Speaker 2: you're saying. But you're saying I am a woman as
Speaker 2: if you're not speaking to a woman, you know, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: so listen, let no, no, no, Let me have a complete
Speaker 2: thought before you decide to interject.
Speaker 1: If my thought wasn't finished, but go ahead, no you,
Speaker 1: But that's how conversations go.
Speaker 2: Okay, But now I'm interjecting. Okay, so listen, I'm a
Speaker 2: woman as well. Now I have a different perspective than you.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that I acquiesce to what the
Speaker 2: masculine energy. I just think objectively for everybody. I don't
Speaker 2: always just side with a woman because I am a woman.
Speaker 2: There's things that can be true with masculine energy and
Speaker 2: feminine energy, and I try to be objective to both.
Speaker 2: And that's what I do. I don't just say, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a woman and then that's it.
Speaker 1: So I am. I feel like I'm the definition of duality, right,
Speaker 1: So I always try to see both sides of some things.
Speaker 1: With some things you got to pick aside on. That's
Speaker 1: how I feel in life, right and right now we
Speaker 1: are in devastation, we are in crisis, right, and I
Speaker 1: do believe it's because women do not practice discipline. Right.
Speaker 1: You are allowing a man to dictate your entire life.
Speaker 1: And it started with the music. If I'm talking about
Speaker 1: in the black community, It definitely started with the music
Speaker 1: hole sluts and whatever, and then eventually we started making
Speaker 1: the music. It's like the word nigga, right, so we
Speaker 1: supposedly took the power from it by the way we
Speaker 1: use it, but it's still a very derogatory word. Right,
Speaker 1: So now you can call yourself a whole like young
Speaker 1: man he said I'm a whore or whatever, and you know,
Speaker 1: and it's okay. Yeah, it's not okay though, right, because
Speaker 1: we are women and we are the greater beings. And
Speaker 1: you might want to argue with that, like, oh, you
Speaker 1: just diminishing't the men. No, we are not men. We
Speaker 1: give life. Men can't. That's the thing that men can't do.
Speaker 1: We are the greater beings. And if anybody feels any
Speaker 1: way about that, I mean, that's this. That's what the
Speaker 1: whole transgender movement is about. It's about men wanting to
Speaker 1: be women so bad because we the shit. So imagine
Speaker 1: a nigga can say, bitch, I'm you because I feel
Speaker 1: like it. Being a woman is not an aesthetic, okay.
Speaker 1: Being a woman is highly spiritual, and I don't I
Speaker 1: feel like men need church way more than women. I
Speaker 1: had a conversation with somebody yesterday, Like, men need church
Speaker 1: and something to be afraid of, way more than women.
Speaker 2: See, this is where I say, right, we all need church.
Speaker 1: That's where this is where I come in to say.
Speaker 1: And that's fine, right, But what I'm saying is women
Speaker 1: are connected way connected to source. We are connected to source.
Speaker 1: We are the source, right and I'm not. And that's
Speaker 1: not to diminish what a man is m But men
Speaker 1: only learn through consequence, right, This is why the bombing
Speaker 1: is going on. Right. Men don't. Men can't. I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't. I don't believe that men can sit
Speaker 1: down and really have an amical conversation, amicable conversation about
Speaker 1: some shit and somebody not die. I mean, when they
Speaker 1: got a lot of people's lives that stick. It's always
Speaker 1: a dick throwing contest. This is why successful men are
Speaker 1: always surrounded by women, because women get shit done. Right.
Speaker 1: Kings are born. Everybody not a king. So if you've
Speaker 1: got a bunch of kings around, or a bunch of
Speaker 1: a bunch of court gestures run around here now telling
Speaker 1: a woman how to be a woman, you don't know
Speaker 1: how to be.
Speaker 2: But we don't. I get what you're saying. But you
Speaker 2: don't know how to be a man.
Speaker 1: You never been. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: But like you sit here, or what men can do
Speaker 2: and what they're not capable of, and what their connection
Speaker 2: is to God, and you can't feel those things because
Speaker 2: you're not one, you know. So that's why I don't
Speaker 2: speak so like matter of factly about what a man
Speaker 2: is and what he can be and what his connection
Speaker 2: to God is because I can't feel it, you know.
Speaker 2: I can only feel my feminine energy, you know. So
Speaker 2: that's why I don't. That's when I'm an objection of
Speaker 2: what you're saying. It's just based on my perspective and
Speaker 2: my experience as a woman.
Speaker 1: So how do you think we got here where we are?
Speaker 1: I mean in the black community as a whole, And
Speaker 1: now that this going into a whole nother conversation, but
Speaker 1: how do you how do you think the black community
Speaker 1: got to the situation we're in right now?
Speaker 2: All right? So there was a time where the black
Speaker 2: family unit was healthy, you know, or healthier I'll say that,
Speaker 2: because there were some issues that it existed with the
Speaker 2: black family. But I think drugs played the part in
Speaker 2: tearing up the black family unit, you know, the crack
Speaker 2: epidemic of the eighties really hit us hard. You know.
Speaker 2: Then the music here comes the music that played a
Speaker 2: part and how we ended up divided. And then we
Speaker 2: sit back. I'm gonna be honest. We sit back and
Speaker 2: let shit happen to us. We let a lot of
Speaker 2: shit high slide. We deal. We just deal, you know,
Speaker 2: like I spoke about recent ashy it is, I wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna mention it, but I was looking at it.
Speaker 1: Real nigga shit.
Speaker 2: We we sit back and we deal. We let shit
Speaker 2: happen to us. Like like we said in the episode
Speaker 2: of Back, a couple episodes back, they're erasing our history.
Speaker 2: We ain't doing shit. We ain't doing shit about it.
Speaker 2: You know, they're taking our they're changing the names of basses,
Speaker 2: they're erasing our black leaders from history books and from
Speaker 2: the archives and the military. And we just let shit
Speaker 2: happen to us. We sit back and let the music
Speaker 2: be so dark, and we support it. We just let
Speaker 2: it happen, and we just worry about our immediate family,
Speaker 2: worry about our kids, worry about that, and then just
Speaker 2: go on.
Speaker 1: So then a woman start gangst a rap.
Speaker 2: A woman mother. The man who started gangst wrap, a
Speaker 2: woman brought him into the earth. We it is us.
Speaker 1: No, I always say that now it is us, it
Speaker 1: is us first. But this is also that's another reason
Speaker 1: why I just be focusing on because we do have
Speaker 1: to fix the things, right, But I don't like, I
Speaker 1: do have a problem with men sitting on podcasts talking
Speaker 1: about women right, h Because I understand we got to
Speaker 1: fix the things because we are the gods on the planet, right,
Speaker 1: But if you are not going to come with the
Speaker 1: leadership skills it takes to fix the things, shut the
Speaker 1: fuck up. Women have great grand ideas and really we
Speaker 1: just need men to ex We need men to be
Speaker 1: the muscle. We need men like we're gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what to do and you go out there and do
Speaker 1: it right. So we got an army. I feel like
Speaker 1: the fucking gangs. Like I said last week, the gangs
Speaker 1: is our army. So we actually wanted a change for shit.
Speaker 1: It's just the masculinity, like the energy needs to be refocused.
Speaker 1: I agree on the right thing. I agree, So they
Speaker 1: have to listen to us to do that though. Listening
Speaker 1: to each other it's how we got We're listening to
Speaker 1: them and them listening to each other. Is how we
Speaker 1: got to where we are.
Speaker 2: But we have to fix us.
Speaker 1: We have to fix us first, So we have to
Speaker 1: fix us first. We have to fix us first.
Speaker 2: How we gonna tell them what to do? And we
Speaker 2: are here. They're the ents over in Lingerie, twerking all around.
Speaker 1: The city, always like that, But we are now. How
Speaker 1: did we get like that? That's what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: were broke, We got broken by our own men, and
Speaker 1: now we gotta fix everybody and everything. Even other races
Speaker 1: of people look to black women to fix it because
Speaker 1: we are the gods. I agree, we are, Okay, So
Speaker 1: when I talk about I am given direction. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. I'm trying to give niggas direction.
Speaker 1: And I understand it. Like before we started recording, I said,
Speaker 1: I told Thomas, I said, maybe it's the way in
Speaker 1: which we say things, right. I know, my voice sounds
Speaker 1: like an authoritative figure. So no, I can't talk super
Speaker 1: soft because that's not me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I also realized that a lot of motherfuckers only
Speaker 1: respect disrespect. You know what I'm saying, a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't get it until it's too fucking late. Right,
Speaker 1: So either I don't talk to you, right, So there
Speaker 1: are gonna be some people we just can't do this
Speaker 1: thing with, and you just got to find the people
Speaker 1: you can to fix and hopefully it just trickles down right, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but hopefully it can and we get
Speaker 1: in a whole other episode because this is the whole
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some men on to talk about this
Speaker 1: type of shit. Okay, so we got all off topic.
Speaker 2: I mean that's how it always goes on a podcast.
Speaker 2: It starts somewhere and then an somewhere else. But I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a good conversation about, you know, where we
Speaker 2: are as a people and the things we could be better,
Speaker 2: and the things we can do as women and the
Speaker 2: things y'all could do as men to be better, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna have to work together though, that's
Speaker 2: the that's the most important thing. But it starts with
Speaker 2: us fixing ourselves, and it starts with some discipline. Stop
Speaker 2: sucking everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when you have sex, they are corrupting the womb.
Speaker 1: Like you literally take on the men's DNA that you
Speaker 1: have had sex with. So if you I had smashing
Speaker 1: raw like I like to. That's why you gotta go
Speaker 1: with our sex for some time, like you gotta go
Speaker 1: do therapy.
Speaker 2: You gotta just don't have raw I listen, I've been
Speaker 2: saying since the first episode, right, because it ain't just
Speaker 2: about have raw sex. Don't do it wraw. It don't
Speaker 2: count if it's.
Speaker 1: That's another that's another incentive for me not to have sex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so usually that I have never like intentionally sustained from sex.
Speaker 1: Sustained from sex. No, it was never, but you have
Speaker 1: it was not intentional, like I just ain't fucking on
Speaker 1: fucking on nobody right now. But if I feel like
Speaker 1: it one day, it could change. But to intentionally basically
Speaker 1: reroute that energy into something else, that's the goal. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to put all my sexual energy into creating something.
Speaker 1: Make write your book, girl, your book. You know. The
Speaker 1: thing is is that when you're constantly learning. The reason
Speaker 1: why I haven't finished my book is because when you
Speaker 1: are in a constant state of learning, you become a hypocrite.
Speaker 1: How what I think today could change tomorrow based on
Speaker 1: some new information I might receive, So you know what
Speaker 1: I know, but I don't. I could just put some
Speaker 1: shit out in there and do a fucking third volume.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Oh today, what already everybody doing? Anyway?
Speaker 1: It's me. I feel like this. I know I told
Speaker 1: you all this before, but to day I feel like this.
Speaker 1: It could be I don't know. I just like I
Speaker 1: like complete products and I don't. When you live in
Speaker 1: nothing is ever complete.
Speaker 2: Right, So that's what I'm saying. It's never gonna be complete.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Mike, listen, your book idea is really good.
Speaker 2: Write it, bitch, God damn, but the stop waiting on
Speaker 2: it to be perfect. It's not.
Speaker 1: But my perspective on things change a lot.
Speaker 2: So whatever perspective you have at the time, use that
Speaker 2: one I'm writing.
Speaker 1: My perspective could change, and the whole book just turned
Speaker 1: into something different. That's fine, conversation.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm sweating because you thought I was saying you wasn't
Speaker 1: a woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, because two weeks ago you called
Speaker 2: me a man because I had on a sweatsuit. Okay,
Speaker 2: I can't over that. That ship.
Speaker 1: Okay, me saying I'm a woman. That wasn't me calling
Speaker 1: you not a woman, though I think it was just you.
Speaker 2: I think it's sometimes how you say things and not
Speaker 2: what you're also though.
Speaker 1: But then that's what emotional intelligence intelligence is, right, because
Speaker 1: you gotta know that I'm not saying that. I know
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You gotta assume. I can assume that.
Speaker 1: But I would never think when you if you were
Speaker 1: to say because the woman that I am, I would
Speaker 1: never think you're saying that to say, I'm not one.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So I can't make you
Speaker 1: think how I think it exactly how you think. But
Speaker 1: if I tell you, hey, that's not where I was
Speaker 1: going with that, like how I.
Speaker 2: Receive it after you say that's not where I go?
Speaker 1: Why would you think that in the first because of
Speaker 1: your tone. My tone sounded like you're a man.
Speaker 2: No, it was just the way you said like some
Speaker 2: of the some of the Olnaby.
Speaker 1: It might be. I think it's about the outfit girl
Speaker 1: that too. It's about the outpha girl. She's still a mader.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking plane. Yeah, you cute with boy clothes on.
Speaker 1: I mean it'd be some big bookie dykes. Did you
Speaker 1: ever see that video on Instagram? The girl she had
Speaker 1: a super fat ass and she was like these niggas
Speaker 1: be all mean.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was walking down the street.
Speaker 1: You have a shelf that was that was that was
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of bookie on a dyke. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a count like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want us to get what lesbian? Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: on a lesbian Yes there, we haven't, okay, so let
Speaker 1: us know because we know I've seen some of y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all be in the d MS. What what do? What do? No?
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I want to ask the public. I'll
Speaker 1: i'll in private acts I have. Look, I got gay friends.
Speaker 2: Is it okay? And just know that we don't mean
Speaker 2: any harm.
Speaker 1: Because we say punk where I'm from.
Speaker 2: So just know that we are were born in the eighties,
Speaker 2: and some of the words that we have said may
Speaker 2: be politically incorrect right now, and we apologize in advance
Speaker 2: if you're a feeling by those things.
Speaker 1: I want a man with discipline, right. I want a
Speaker 1: man that's so focused on our goals, like he ain't mad,
Speaker 1: we ain't have sex and the money yikes, yikes?
Speaker 2: Want a pop mad?
Speaker 1: No, I'm joking, y'all. Yeah, because when I'm focused, I
Speaker 1: really don't be wanting to dick in the house though, yes,
Speaker 1: like and then also, you know, if I'm having a
Speaker 1: to chase my dreams, work a job that God don't
Speaker 1: got no kids, clean a fucking litter box like workout,
Speaker 1: I also think about sucking dick. Yeah, no, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's that's why I like the other
Speaker 1: episode about having a soft light. If you want your
Speaker 1: dick suck every day, you need to be worth that
Speaker 1: soft life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to provide an environs because.
Speaker 1: Yes, head on demand if I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about anything else. But if I'm having to also worry
Speaker 1: about all the things sexy, get a little scarce. And
Speaker 1: then you start adding kids into their Like you really
Speaker 1: have to put sex on the calendar. Yeah, as a
Speaker 1: single person, I got to put it on the calendar.
Speaker 1: So imagine what a kid is. You really gotta be
Speaker 1: in love, Like it don't matter. We get a five
Speaker 1: minute in love and the shower first thing in the morning.
Speaker 1: We gotta get it in at some point. But right now, like,
Speaker 1: I really, I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool on a dick.
Speaker 1: I've been tooling a dick for a while, even in
Speaker 1: a relationship.
Speaker 2: I just want connection abuse. I yeah, that is abuse.
Speaker 2: That was very much abuse. I didn't never said it,
Speaker 2: but it was. Yeah, I said it. It's definitely abusive.
Speaker 1: But I mean I I for women, sex starts in
Speaker 1: the mind, you know what I'm saying. I think it's
Speaker 1: more physical with men, like they can just have sex
Speaker 1: and they pissed, like I gotta be happy to have sex.
Speaker 2: They can go on it. I heard the guys are
Speaker 2: going on trips to like Colombia or buying Yes, but
Speaker 2: they want they wipe from over there too.
Speaker 1: Girl like the passport bros.
Speaker 2: And just having sex like you know, with strangers for
Speaker 2: a couple of dollars and come home.
Speaker 1: I don't know if my niy can go to the
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic or no.
Speaker 2: Boys.
Speaker 1: I don't know boys' trips, like you know, they'd like
Speaker 1: to think that we just be eating kuchi on girls
Speaker 1: trips or really we just be talking about y'all ass
Speaker 1: and eating lobster and tannin.
Speaker 2: And I've never ate a kouchi on a trip me either.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the men think that, oh yeah, but we
Speaker 1: know y'all be buying pussy on the trips, like y'all
Speaker 1: go to these countries and in little groups to buy pussy.
Speaker 1: Some of y'all be in Thailand buying bussy, bully, what's
Speaker 1: your last buying them? Little lady? Men still be having
Speaker 1: shit to say, And now you do that, i'd be forgetting.
Speaker 2: Listen, you need to find a way to say it
Speaker 2: in the forty minutes that we got.
Speaker 1: I't got no last last, bitch. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: on my last last. Okay, I'm this is my last last, y'all.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on my last relationship in life.
Speaker 2: No, I don't say that in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2: Don't rebuke.
Speaker 1: Rebuke it for me, like you don't be comfortable by yourself.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I enjoy my own company, yes, but
Speaker 2: I want a partner. I want that for you too.
Speaker 2: That I want that for you too, because you want
Speaker 2: a family, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Look like I said yesterday, I
Speaker 1: did today.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll rebuke it today.
Speaker 1: Thank you? What's your last last? You got one?
Speaker 2: Keep your regrets to a minimum, That's always the answer.
Speaker 2: Keep your regrets to minimum, and just you know, don't
Speaker 2: add bodies. Watch you know what.
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe we can do no more sheets. Maybe we
Speaker 1: can do like a content, like a contest, like a
Speaker 1: celibacy contest.
Speaker 2: They're gonna lie.
Speaker 1: How we're gonna clock. That's how we're gonna col fast.
Speaker 1: Now that y'all bitches got had a dick, right, we
Speaker 1: can't clock that. Couchies and no man sell policy, Like
Speaker 1: you should know that I'm a witch and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: know even fucking or not three Instagram account that don't work.
Speaker 2: That don't work, you know, But I mean, just practice
Speaker 2: some discipline, you know, men and women, so you can
Speaker 2: find the best partner. And then like when you wait
Speaker 2: and you meet that right somebody, it'd be that much better. Right,
Speaker 2: So wait, just wait, you know, wait for it to
Speaker 2: be right. Don't just be out here all willy nilly
Speaker 2: sharing your DNA and watch no more sheets. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: The pastor is a female pastor. This is old for
Speaker 2: the nineties. And she had tied all these sheets around
Speaker 2: her body and she was like dragging them across the
Speaker 2: stage and she was heavy because all these sheets.
Speaker 1: All these bodies had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the sheets was connected to her. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then she was like releasing the sheets and it was
Speaker 2: so powerful. So when you get a chance, y'all watched that.
Speaker 2: No more wit is that like a like a real
Speaker 2: it's a sermon? Oh okay, yeah, who doesn't. I can't
Speaker 2: remember her name. It's a black female pastor, but I
Speaker 2: can't remember her name right now, but I put it
Speaker 2: in the comments when I when we post this so
Speaker 2: y'all can find her interesting.
Speaker 1: Yep, hey, y'all, no more sheets? All right, all if
Speaker 1: you enjoy this episode, y'all tune in every Thursday on
Speaker 1: The Black Effect. Are already we have tou you get
Speaker 1: your podcast. That is your goals AJ Holiday two point
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Tell me always be rushing me. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: saying I be wanting to think.
Speaker 2: Listen. I love y'all so much. Y'all remember speak now.
Speaker 1: And hold your pussy.
Speaker 2: And Dick's.
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