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Speaker 3: I said unconditioned, not condition I said unconditioned. It's where

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Speaker 4: Look, you fat Trump.

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Speaker 3: If you listen to this, you listen good, because what

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Speaker 4: Who I speak for, and I speak for a lot

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Speaker 2: This is what we believe. You're right.

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Speaker 4: I got Trump derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 5: I hate the motherfucker, and you know what, I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get better.

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Speaker 4: I pray to God in heaven, God reigned the righteous

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Speaker 4: I'm your vessel on this earth. Pray for the people

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Speaker 4: that listen to this. We want more, we want to

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Speaker 2: But you have indications what whether Russia is supporting Iran

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Speaker 4: No, I have had no indication of that whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: Leadies.

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Speaker 6: In general, we've had one hundred and twenty five military

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Speaker 2: Show me, show me the language, show me.

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Speaker 9: There are even now Iranian operatives in the United States.

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Speaker 9: People who have been caught in the past. What are

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Speaker 10: So you've had covert Iranian intelligence officers who have come

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Speaker 11: That's going to be the street stand.

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Speaker 12: Up, ready to stand.

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Speaker 1: Many signs that you have seen so far that indicate

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Speaker 4: Certain, there's a.

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Speaker 8: Lot of forces in the region, but again, putting in

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Speaker 4: This is the climal screen of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 2: Sir, Well, we saw Steveles, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: We saw bombing. Obviously, massive round of bombing in Tehran.

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Speaker 4: Of some specifica Captain Fanel, can you just hang on

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Speaker 4: Sam fattis spent a big part of his career. He'll

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Speaker 4: Use your host, Stephen k Back, Captain Fanel. Obviously they

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Speaker 4: I think if you look at the Twelve Day War,

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Speaker 4: stick around, Jim. In nineteen seventy nine and eighty, when

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Bush carrier George HW. Bush, completed its basic

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Speaker 4: What are they thinking, Sir.

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Speaker 12: get a hint, you get some guys within this government

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Speaker 12: Venezuelan solution and they say, we're not riding this thing

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Speaker 12: all the way to the ground, and that would be,

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Speaker 12: in my view, a happy ending. But as of now,

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Speaker 12: they're going to dig in, and they're going to take

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Speaker 12: this thing into an unconventional realm, and they are going

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Speaker 12: to prolong this conflict. And are they going to be

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Speaker 12: hammered mercilessly by the United States military without question. I mean,

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Speaker 12: anybody who bet on the Iranians to stand up to

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Speaker 12: the US military was delusional. They've been flattened and they're

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Speaker 12: going to continue to get flattened. But in their worldview,

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Speaker 12: they will just dig in and this will become low

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Speaker 12: cost drones and proc forces and terrorist attacks abroad and

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Speaker 12: attacks on desalinization plants and oil refineries and sort of

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Speaker 12: let's let's all go to hell together kind of mindset?

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Speaker 4: Did they not? Yesterday? Tried to? There was some sort

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Speaker 4: of communication or something. They tried to back off and said, hey,

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Speaker 4: they're not going to go after the which I think

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Speaker 4: is the most interesting thing, not going for the Gulf countries.

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Speaker 4: So they didn't. But that looks like it's all torn

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Speaker 4: asunder now they did they tried to hit it? Are

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Speaker 4: they hit a desalination plant? Are they? Is it all

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Speaker 4: bets off Persians versus Arabs? Right now? Is that back

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Speaker 4: on hold? And last night's bombing we got about a minute.

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Speaker 4: I'll bring you back after the break. Was was the

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Speaker 4: difference in intensity last night of the Americans, of our

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Speaker 4: forces going after their ole infrastructure and hitting Tehran the

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Speaker 4: refineries there, go take this next level.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 12: I think what they were trying to do was divide

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Speaker 12: us from our allies and encourage the Gulf States in

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Speaker 12: particular to part company with us. And that didn't work.

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Speaker 12: And so now they've gone I mean, they just hit

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Speaker 12: a desalinization plant in Bahrain. They've hit a number of

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Speaker 12: other targets. So they gave that a world and it

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Speaker 12: didn't work. So now they're going to intensify what they

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Speaker 12: do against the Gulf States to the extent they can't.

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Speaker 4: Sam, hang on for one second. You gave a perfect segue.

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Speaker 4: You talk about objectives trying to divide allies. Wrote a

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Speaker 4: pretty impressive piece for in magazine. If we can get

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Speaker 4: make sure the war and Posse sees it, remembering Sam

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Speaker 4: fedis back and talk about that point. Also, Hrabbi Wilicki

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Speaker 4: We got posso they are Wiker Caroline Wren on this

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Speaker 4: huge political story in Texas. All of it this morning,

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Speaker 4: our special edition of the War War Room.

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Speaker 7: Here's your host, Stephen k Ban.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Sam Fat, thank you. Back by the way, Birch Gold,

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Speaker 4: Philip Patrick in the team. He was a great yesterday

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Speaker 4: on the show. I don't want to thank the audience

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Speaker 4: we had. President was down with the Shield of America,

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Speaker 4: the hemispheric defense, which is obviously something the war room

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Speaker 4: would love to focus on, but right now we have

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Speaker 4: other concerns that are top of mind. Sam Fattish wrote

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Speaker 4: an amazing piece. You talk about allies, allies being together, this

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Speaker 4: war is metastasizing. President Trump did say, yes, say hey,

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Speaker 4: I don't want the Kurds. I don't need the Kurds.

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Speaker 4: In of course, remember President Trump's a disruptor. He's never

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Speaker 4: going to tell you exactly what he's going to do right.

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Speaker 4: He wants to leave. When I tell people about Trump,

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Speaker 4: he wants optionality. He always wants a range of alternatives,

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Speaker 4: and don't box him into a corner because he always

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Speaker 4: wants to arrange of alternatives to be able to pivot,

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Speaker 4: and sometimes pivot hard. Yesday on the planet, I don't

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Speaker 4: know the Kurds. I'm not going to give him the

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Speaker 4: go ahead, but he he has talked. I think it's

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Speaker 4: been leaked about a special forces to go secure some

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Speaker 4: of the nuclear material. That's what they're talking about, boots

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Speaker 4: on the ground right now. Sam, your piece about America

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Speaker 4: and Israel, because the war and part in Lebanon, in

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Speaker 4: in other areas is starting to increase, as it is

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Speaker 4: in the Gulf, not just in Tehran, maybe Beijon, in

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Speaker 4: other places. Your thoughts are.

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Speaker 12: Right, Well, I mean to take off from the point

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Speaker 12: in the article. Look, we're in this war with the Israelis.

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Speaker 12: People have different ideas about the extent to which we

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Speaker 12: are in the war, the war because of the Israelis,

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Speaker 12: but however we got here. It is very clear that

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Speaker 12: when the President talks about this, he envisions a happy ending.

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Speaker 12: In other words, even when he says unconditional surrender, the

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Speaker 12: next thing he talks about is a free, democratic Iran

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Speaker 12: working with us, prosperous all of this.

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Speaker 4: That's how he seeses that.

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Speaker 12: In some sense, that's what we all on the American

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Speaker 12: side want.

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Speaker 2: It is not clear to me.

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Speaker 12: That that is necessarily at all what the Israelis regard

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Speaker 12: as success, Meaning if Iran ends up as a much bigger,

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Speaker 12: much more intense Liby, a totally broken, dysfunctional state where

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Speaker 12: people are sold as slaves openly in markets. I'm not

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Speaker 12: sure that is a bad outcome to the Israelis because

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Speaker 12: what it means is a an Iran. They probably can't

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Speaker 12: threaten them directly. Isn't building nuclear weapons because it's impoverished

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Speaker 12: and it's in chaos and it's in civil war. From

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Speaker 12: an Israeli national security perspective, the way they look at things,

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Speaker 12: which of necessity is very hard nosed, I think that

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Speaker 12: very well could be a success in their in their view,

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Speaker 12: I don't think anybody on the American side really would

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Speaker 12: view that as a success. We see what happened in

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Speaker 12: Libya right when Isis was.

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Speaker 4: That hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. As

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Speaker 4: you know, and you you're one of the experts at

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Speaker 4: turned to because you know so well, but I am not.

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Speaker 4: I am not a wild enthusiastic supporter of this war.

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Speaker 4: We are going out of way warroom to show you

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Speaker 4: a range of facts and opinions to make sure it's balanced. However,

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Speaker 4: I'm for if it's a chaotic mess. I just don't care.

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Speaker 4: I don't care about Iran. I don't care about the Perch.

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Speaker 4: I just don't We got enough problems here that we

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Speaker 4: got it like yesterday's thing, and to get I noticed

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Speaker 4: nobody's talking about the twenty five million illegal aliens we

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Speaker 4: got in the country. And by the way, last night

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Speaker 4: there was a terrorist attack on the Southwest airlines. That's

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Speaker 4: why we showed that video of people put their hands

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Speaker 4: up and then took a guy off. Or I guess

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Speaker 4: they're figuring out it was a terrorist attack. We got problem,

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Speaker 4: we heard all the cold open we got problems here.

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Speaker 4: If it's a chaotic mess, they brought it on themselves,

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Speaker 4: and they threw us out fifty years ago, through the shawout,

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Speaker 4: through any type of western because that country was developing

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Speaker 4: in middle class, right, And it may have been huge problems,

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Speaker 4: a police state, all that, but it's much better than today.

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Speaker 4: If it's a if. If the outcome here, I don't care.

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Speaker 4: I don't if we had to spend a second and

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Speaker 4: a dollar for a free and democratic Iran, and all

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Speaker 4: this happy talk from Levin and all these adds about that,

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Speaker 4: I could care less. If it's a chaotic mess and

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Speaker 4: they're at each other's throats and the payback, because the

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Speaker 4: only way they're going to get through this is almost

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Speaker 4: like the French Revolution. They get to purge themselves. We

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Speaker 4: can't do it so for thirty or forty years. If

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Speaker 4: they do that, hey have at it. I could care less.

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Speaker 4: I want to get back here and start getting twenty

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Speaker 4: five million bad you know, the illegal aliens out of

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Speaker 4: the country. So I don't mind that as a war

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Speaker 4: objective is that? Do you actually think, I mean President

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Speaker 4: Trump he is looking at I think a World War

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Speaker 4: II model where the Nazis in Imperial Japan and all

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Speaker 4: the bad guys it turned out to be a happy ending, right,

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Speaker 4: or at least a relatively happy ending. You're and you're

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Speaker 4: saying the Israelis. The Israelis don't want that. They much

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Speaker 4: shrather have just a mess in Iran.

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Speaker 2: I think they would be very personally.

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Speaker 12: I think they would be very happy if it ends

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Speaker 12: up as a broken, dysfunctional country consumed by civil war.

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Speaker 12: But even if we attack, if we adopt you know,

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Speaker 12: your your thesis, which is okay, look guys, it's your

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Speaker 12: country sorted out, which a certain way in some level

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Speaker 12: I agree with fully. The problem is it doesn't just

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Speaker 12: stay within their borders. Right, when Libya disintegrated, more more

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Speaker 12: Libyans joined ISIS than from any other country.

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Speaker 4: In the Middle East.

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Speaker 12: Libya is not the most populous uh Syria was blown

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Speaker 12: up and we are we unfortunately still get stuck with

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Speaker 12: the implications. It doesn't it doesn't stay within the borders. Right,

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Speaker 12: that's where the terrorist groups take over terror for.

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Speaker 4: The biggest are you are you are you implying that

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Speaker 4: this is that? Is that the law of unattended consequences.

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Speaker 4: Here are partners and Cutter. Everybody's loving on Cutter, everybody's

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Speaker 4: all the influence are hanging out in Dubai. You're saying

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Speaker 4: that the collateral damage here is this thing it devolves

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Speaker 4: into some hell hole, most logically will be the potential

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Speaker 4: toppling of those monarchies that control the tiny houses and

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Speaker 4: cutter in Saudi Arabia and in UAE. NBZ came out

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Speaker 4: yesterday and he said, hey, look, and he was talking

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Speaker 4: about Dubai and every day I said, just because we're

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Speaker 4: beautiful places and we've tried to westernize a little bit,

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Speaker 4: and we're a huge vacation place and people love coming

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Speaker 4: in here. Where's toughest scorpions, and the Iranians will know

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Speaker 4: if they strike it is that him sending a warning

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Speaker 4: of exactly your thing. The collateral damage here of the

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Speaker 4: collapse of the Persians will spread and topple supposedly our

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Speaker 4: most important allies in the region, the Gulf Emirates in

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Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 12: Well, look, I think what you're talking about is like

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Speaker 12: you're breaking a sheet of glass right there are going

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Speaker 12: to be shatter. It's going to shatter in hundreds of

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Speaker 12: different directions. So we were talking a little while ago

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Speaker 12: about desalinization plants. The area where we're at we're fighting

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Speaker 12: this war is a desert and there's like a hundred

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Speaker 12: million people that were in that region that rely upon

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Speaker 12: sea water from which the salt has been removed. It's

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Speaker 12: been turned into freshwater. Desalinization plant. I don't know, there's

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Speaker 12: like four hundred, five hundred. Okay, we're now starting to

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Speaker 12: see those desalinization plants hit. The Iranians claim we started it.

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Speaker 12: Who knows what the truth of that is. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 12: They've already started striking them. Okay, you take those things

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Speaker 12: offline and destroy them. You don't read if they are

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Speaker 12: really hit, not just you know, a minor strike, then

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Speaker 12: they're offline potentially for years.

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Speaker 4: And so you're now.

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Speaker 12: Looking at a hundred million people who don't have water

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Speaker 12: to drink. You're talking about taking out refineries. Well, again,

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Speaker 12: some of these strikes are relatively minor damage, but if

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Speaker 12: we really start losing major infrastructure like that, you don't

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Speaker 12: put it in operation again next week. So now you're

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Speaker 12: talking about tens of millions of people without water, and

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Speaker 12: you're talking about the world without whatever oiling natural gas production.

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Speaker 12: So these are just consequence. I mean, look, we've got

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Speaker 12: crazy stuff going on in Cypress now, right. The Iranians

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Speaker 12: actually I think it was hesbal on their behalf hit

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Speaker 12: the British base in Cyprus that got the Greeks all

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Speaker 12: energized because the Muslims we're attacking Theirs, brothers and sisters

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Speaker 12: in Cyprus. So now they're sending Greek naval vessels to

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Speaker 12: defend Cypress from the Muslims. Right, it's the Battle of

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Speaker 12: Laponto all over again. And now all of a sudden

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Speaker 12: we got Airdwan talking about sending f sixteens to northern Cypress,

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Speaker 12: which they occupy, to protect Cypress from the Greeks.

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Speaker 2: Who are invading again.

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Speaker 12: You're like, everybody's thinking, what the hell does this have

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Speaker 12: to do with hitting Tehran. But it's that kind of

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Speaker 12: ripple of fact as it goes on, and some of it.

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Speaker 4: May just hang on. Sam, You're but when we say

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Speaker 4: I want because you spent your career there, the folks

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Speaker 4: over there think the Battle of La Ponto happened yesterday. Yes,

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Speaker 4: these are ancient vendettas versus you know, Raheem gave me

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Speaker 4: a free constant to doble shirt two Christmases ago as

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Speaker 4: a gift that we had a big Christmas celebration, and

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Speaker 4: Raheem I think the thing got five million Boil tells

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Speaker 4: me and things still iconic in Greece that they loved it.

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Speaker 4: It's like five million hits or something. They put it

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Speaker 4: up the other day. The Greeks are thinking free Constantinople.

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Speaker 4: I mean, my point is that when you talk about

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Speaker 4: unconditional surrender, you talk about the Persians. These are ancient

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Speaker 4: civilizations that vendettas and wars from a thousand years ago

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Speaker 4: are as current because they teach their kids, they pass

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Speaker 4: it down. Here in the United States, you can't have

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Speaker 4: have a logical discussion about their back and Afghan War

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Speaker 4: because they don't really understand the details of it. That's

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Speaker 4: not in this region. That's not how they're brought up

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Speaker 4: or how they're taught, is.

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Speaker 2: It, sir, No, not at all.

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Speaker 12: Look when I lived in Athens many years ago, there

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Speaker 12: was graffiti on the wall across the street from my

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Speaker 12: house It's said in Greek Constantinople is the capital of

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Speaker 12: Greece now and for forever. So a fifteen year old kid,

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Speaker 12: I mean, come on, that's like not his gang sign

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Speaker 12: or anything else. It's like we got to go retake Constantinople.

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Speaker 12: So I mean every group out there has this, this,

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Speaker 12: you know, some vision.

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Speaker 4: Look.

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Speaker 12: I actually was having talking to a Greek asset many

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Speaker 12: years ago, a very senior guy, retired military officer, and

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Speaker 12: he actually brought up the Battle of Laponto, which I

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Speaker 12: think was what fifteen seventy one, and he said, the

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Speaker 12: problem with you guys is you think.

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Speaker 2: That we defeated them then.

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Speaker 12: And he was like, they didn't go away, they're still

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Speaker 12: here and that I mean meaning the Muslims. So yeah,

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Speaker 12: that's that's the way the whole region works. There's these

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Speaker 2: They live and die by this stuff.

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Speaker 4: President Trump adamant now toombout unconditional surrender and putting some

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Speaker 4: waste to protesters for people that want to, I guess,

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Speaker 4: overthrow the government. That's pretty hardcore statement. Your thoughts from

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Speaker 4: the view of guys that are picking another supreme leader

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Speaker 4: that may be in the bloodline of the last one

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Speaker 4: we lost, and some guys that are come from an

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Speaker 4: ancient civilization, how's that going to set with them?

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Speaker 12: You're talking about people who have an apocalyptic worldview. They

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Speaker 12: believe that they will win. They believe the Mahdi, the

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Speaker 12: Iranian Superman is returning, and they.

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Speaker 2: Effectively have to walk through They.

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Speaker 12: Armageddon isn't a necessary precondition of their ultimate success. In

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Speaker 12: other words, fire Brimstone and the end of the world

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Speaker 12: is what you have to go through to emerge on

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Speaker 12: the other side for the inevitable, preordained victory. I don't

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Speaker 12: think you want to put those guys in a box

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Speaker 12: and say it's all or nothing, you must quit again.

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Speaker 12: There is some chance in my view that at some

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Speaker 12: point some guys in senior positions but not at the

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Speaker 12: top stage what amounts to a coup and depose them.

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Speaker 12: But absent that, they will dig in. And I don't

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Speaker 12: think the people have the capacity to overthrow them. So

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Speaker 12: you're putting their backs against the wall, and what they

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Speaker 12: will then do is become they're already doing, to become

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Speaker 12: more desperate. You will see more attacks around the world

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Speaker 12: any place they can attack us, including inside the United States.

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Speaker 12: That's you've got there in a corner. I don't think

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Speaker 12: that's what you want to do.

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Speaker 4: This is this is a death strit So people, and

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Speaker 4: we're bringing another carrier over the brick. We're trying the Brits.

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Speaker 4: We're funneling more naval forces and as Captain Fidel So

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Speaker 4: rarely picked out dumb bombs or gravity bombs for real

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Speaker 4: bombing runs. I obviously the IDEF took out a command

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Speaker 4: center with a fifty fighter bomber run the other day.

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Speaker 4: My point is for those for those of us that

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Speaker 4: would like to see maybe talk about an off ranp

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Speaker 4: you don't see an off rank coming on Tuesday. I

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Speaker 4: take it, sir.

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Speaker 12: No, we're I mean we are. We are intensifying, and

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Speaker 12: look at it. The United States military is the best

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Speaker 12: in the world and its capabilities are truly awesome. We

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Speaker 12: are notching this up. We are we are digging in

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Speaker 12: and expanding and hitting them harder and harder, and we

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Speaker 12: will continue to do so effectively get the best.

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Speaker 2: Guys and men and women in the world.

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Speaker 12: But I psychologically, I don't think you are going to

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Speaker 12: achieve what you're trying to achieve. You're just going to

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Speaker 12: make them more desperate, and they will look for any

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Speaker 12: place to take this conflict, and it won't be trying

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Speaker 12: to match us man for man with you know, take

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Speaker 12: on carrier battlegroups. It'll be every place and they feel

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Speaker 12: like they can hit us. It will become more and

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Speaker 12: more unconventional.

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Speaker 4: An asymmetric. Sam fattis once again your expertise and judgment,

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Speaker 4: discernment second and none. Where do people get you now

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Speaker 4: more than ever to read a magazine, to follow your social.

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Speaker 12: Media substack and magazine dot substack dot com and I'm

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Speaker 12: on X and getter and everyplace else. But that'll get

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Speaker 12: you there.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir, appreciate it. It came to me as

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Speaker 4: Sam was talking, if you want and this is not

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Speaker 4: exactly analogous, but I think as a form of entertainment

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Speaker 4: it can be enlightening to people about the Madi. Winston

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Speaker 4: Churchill wrote a book as a young subaltern called The

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Speaker 4: River War about the uprising of the Mahdi in cartoon.

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Speaker 4: Back in the nineteenth century. They made a film about

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Speaker 4: it called Khartoon, starring Charlton Heston and Sir Lawrence Olivier.

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Speaker 4: Sir Lawrence Olivier plays the Mahdi and it is absolutely

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Speaker 4: I've always thought. Charlton Heston plays General Chinese Gordon, who

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Speaker 4: had taken on it, I guess the boxers, and then

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Speaker 4: had then pivoted to He was called back to service

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Speaker 4: to go take on the Mahdi down a Khartoon anyway fascinating,

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Speaker 4: but it shows you the power that was inspired in

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Speaker 4: this Muslim army by the Mahdi. This mythical, this kind

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Speaker 4: of mythical, mythical to us, but real to them. It's

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Speaker 4: quite fascinating. In Churchill's book, The River War has still

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Speaker 4: been one of the best descriptions. I remember the beginning

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Speaker 4: of it. I can't believe it. We're talking about stuff

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Speaker 4: global war and terror. We have a Muslim, we have

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Speaker 4: a Marx's the hottest Muslim mayor in New York City,

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Speaker 4: account as a true hater. You have a Muslim, you

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Speaker 4: have a Marxist, your hottest mayor in the greatest city

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Speaker 4: of America, the financial capital of the world. These people

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Speaker 4: think very differently than we do, very differently. And you

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Speaker 4: and you can you know, talk about crypto and everything

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Speaker 4: Why we fight. We're in a fight and we got

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Speaker 4: the first six came back home. We've got to have

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Speaker 4: their backs. At the same time, we have to face

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Speaker 4: What is the plant, what is the commitment? We couldn't

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Speaker 4: in the beginning of the kinetic part of the Third

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Speaker 4: World War, and how do we bring it to a

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Speaker 4: conclusion that's in the benefit of the United States of America.

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Speaker 4: Our citizens be back in a moment in the world