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Speaker 2: That was a hard I mean, he was defending himself, right, Lindsay.

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Speaker 2: Was really disturbing to me, Lindsay, was that this happened

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Speaker 2: The world is talking about the kidnapping of finance Guthrie

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Speaker 6: Think I'm having a lovely day, Jeff, how are.

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Speaker 2: You very good?

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Speaker 2: car was towed away recently. Investigator spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: time going through the yard. They've been back and forth

435
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Speaker 2: to the house. Nils, give us your expert view on

436
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Speaker 2: what's going on here.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think if any family member were involved in this,

438
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: the Bureau and the the county sheriff would already know it,

439
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 4: would already have a hot lead for that. Towing the

440
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: car probably meant that they were trying to eliminate somebody

441
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: as a suspect. And then we have the situation with

442
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: the ransom note. There've been some fake ransom demands, and

443
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Speaker 4: according to at least two outlets, a ransom demand that

444
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: was very specific about where they left Nancy Guthrie's Apple

445
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: watch in the house, which was to authenticate their their

446
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: abduction of her. They say they're not going to communicate further.

447
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 4: They've made a demand for a crypto transfer. The Bureau

448
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 4: and the sheriff are probably analyzing cell phone metadata going

449
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: back weeks, like they did in the Coburger case, looking

450
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: for different cell phones coming and going, coming and going

451
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Speaker 4: from that neighborhood. Kidnapping like this takes a lot of

452
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 4: logistical planning. This was not an impulsive act. I don't

453
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Speaker 4: think unless I'm missing something, Jeff, this was very well organized.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let me ask you. Yeah, a few questions here.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the kidnapping was performed flawlessly because they

457
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: got away with it, and they've been unable to really

458
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: find much in all these days. But the ransom demands,

459
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: it seems sort of odd, and they didn't provide proof

460
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Speaker 2: of life. They haven't been paid yet. There's a real

461
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: question as to whether the lady is still alive because

462
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: she needs medication and hasn't received it now, and I

463
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: guess close to a week. So I've heard some say

464
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Speaker 2: that they think these folks were expert robbers, but maybe

465
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Speaker 2: not expert kidnappers, although you know they're tell us, yeah,

466
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Speaker 2: give us please, this.

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Speaker 6: Is a very well planned operation.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to point out that in twenty twenty one,

469
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Speaker 4: Mexico extradited at Chile and national who was a communist

470
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Speaker 4: who had run a kidnapping ring out of San Miguel

471
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Speaker 4: Diende in Mexico successfully for more than a decade, kidnapping

472
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Speaker 4: for ransom. Specifically, these were KGB trained men who fled

473
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Speaker 4: Chile with the eyes of Pinochet and operated in complete

474
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Speaker 4: secrecy out of Mexico.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that that group.

476
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Speaker 4: Did this, obviously those were old men now, but somebody

477
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Speaker 4: mimicking that level of tradecraft has executed a very skilled kidnapping.

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Speaker 2: Here do these things. I mean, you know, we go

479
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: back in our history to the what the Lindbergh baby,

480
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, Frank Sinatra Junior, some high profile people that

481
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Speaker 2: have been kidnapped over the years. But now with the

482
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Speaker 2: advent of all this technology and surveillance and cameras and

483
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: abilities at the FBI and the government, has it would

484
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Speaker 2: seem to me almost impossible to pull this off successfully.

485
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Speaker 2: But so far they haven't been apprehended, but they haven't

486
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Speaker 2: gotten any money, have they They.

487
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Speaker 4: Haven't got any money yet, but it's still in the offing.

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Speaker 4: One of the things I'm going to point out that's

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Speaker 4: less than obvious. I could demand proof of life in

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Speaker 4: a kidnapping case like this, and a skilled user of

491
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Speaker 4: artificial intelligence could create a fake video. That would be

492
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Speaker 4: difficult if somebody took a video of a video to

493
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Speaker 4: discern as an AI or it would be ambiguous enough

494
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: that they would have to operate on the assumption that

495
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Speaker 4: Nancy Guthrie is still alive. I don't hold out a

496
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Speaker 4: lot of hope that she is. I pray that she is.

497
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Speaker 4: There was a blood trail at the house, so obviously

498
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Speaker 4: she or somebody else was injured contemporaneous with the kidnapping.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't look good.

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Speaker 2: If it was sort of capabilities what sort of capabilities

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Speaker 2: of law enforcement have to review footage from nearby you know, highways?

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It seems like in Tucson there are a lot of

504
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: communities there that don't have much lighting that they you know,

505
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: want to enjoy the night sky, so it's dark and

506
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Speaker 2: I think in this neighborhood there was as well, maybe

507
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Speaker 2: not a lot of having useful.

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Speaker 4: It's Catalina Hills. There wasn't a lot of video footage

509
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: within the neighborhood. But every neighborhood has an ingress and

510
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: the negress, so they're going to be analyzing flock cameras

511
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: which automatically capture license plate numbers, that sort of thing.

512
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Speaker 4: The reason I keep saying that this was well planned is, Jeff,

513
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: it involves a lot of reconnaissance. You're going to want

514
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Speaker 4: to look at the scene many times to ascertain the

515
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: best approach. Unless I am wrong, and this is a

516
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: psychopath who just got lucky, meaning got in and got

517
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: out without being caught, and she's in a in a

518
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: in a hole somewhere.

519
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Speaker 6: But I don't I don't sense that of this.

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00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: There is a credible ransom demand because of the positioning

521
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: of the Apple Watch, so we have to we have

522
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: to operate on the belief that this is a skilled

523
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: kidnapping nils.

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Speaker 2: If you were advising the family, would you say pay

525
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: the ransom without proof of life? I would not, Okay,

526
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Speaker 2: And do you see this coming to a conclusion where

527
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: these kidnappers are arrested for this crime.

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Speaker 6: Eventually, Yes, it will occur.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because how often do kidnappers get away with it

530
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Speaker 2: and get a ransom and not get caught. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's very rare, right in this day and age.

532
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 4: In this country, it's as rare as Hen's teeth. But

533
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: if we have a country within a country, there are

534
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Speaker 4: kidnappings which take place rather regularly in this country by

535
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: the cartels of other narcotics players that never hit the news,

536
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: and ransoms are demanded and paid, and sometimes the ransom

537
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: involves for parents.

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Speaker 6: In other words, you don't do this, and we won't

539
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 6: do that.

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Speaker 4: Because we allow ourselves to have countries formed. Within our country,

541
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: a lot of this sort of thing occurs and we

542
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: only find out about it later.

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00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: Nils, thank you for your insights, really appreciate you coming

544
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: on with us, and we're praying for an outcome where

545
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: this family is reunited and Mss Guthrie is healthy. We'll

546
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: be watching all right, thank you, sir. We'll be watching

547
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, but not watching Bad Bunny. Going to

548
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: be watching right here on Real America's Voice, the Turning

549
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Point USA Special, And of course what we're doing prior

550
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: to that is called taking back the charts that we're

551
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: going to be having right here on Real America's Voice

552
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: prior to the TPUSA Super Bowl. Well, let's talk to

553
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: someone who's a real expert in this. A country and

554
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: patriotic rock artist, a former TV host, founder and CEO

555
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: of American Rebel, Andy Ross is back with us here

556
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: in the Rings at Polics program. And Andy, how are

557
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: you welcome?

558
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Man? I'm doing great, just blessed man, happy to be here.

559
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Speaker 2: Well, why would the NFL choose a divisive political cross dressing,

560
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: Spanish singing Trump hating performer like Bad Bunny and you know,

561
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: precede him with Green Days, which is violently anti Trump

562
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: and they hate the conservatives, very very left wing. So

563
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: why is the NFL doing that? Andy?

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00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 11: Well, you know they turned the uh, they turned the

565
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Speaker 11: power to pick the halftime shows and the music over

566
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Speaker 11: to I think it was Jay Z I believe gave

567
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 11: him Mike a ten year run at it. And you

568
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 11: know there's other people picking the acts. I mean it,

569
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 11: why they would put Bad Bunny on there? I have

570
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 11: no idea, but I know, and I mean all puns intended.

571
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 11: I am definitely hopping over to see my buddy kid

572
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 11: rock and Lee Brice sing the paint off the wall

573
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 11: at their halftime show, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: What kind of numbers do you think the NFL is

575
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: going to have to see as far as viewership for

576
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: the TPUSA event for them to get the message that,

577
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: you know, they're going in the wrong direction here because

578
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: you look at the acts that they've brought on Eminem

579
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: you know, very left wing, the Guy last year, Kendrick

580
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: La Mahart left wing, Beyonce left wing. I mean it's

581
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: like every time. I mean, they don't have a pro

582
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: American conservative music act and the Super Bowl for who

583
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: knows how long. So what kind of message do we

584
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: need to send to them viewership you think with this event?

585
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 11: Well, you know, and just to mention too, they haven't

586
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 11: had a pure rock band do the halftime show since

587
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 11: twenty ten when The Who played. And I'm a kind

588
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 11: of rock guy, so I like my rock bands. But

589
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 11: you know, I enjoy football very much. I mean, I

590
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 11: really do love watching football games, and I'll watch you know,

591
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 11: the NFL. You know, it didn't really matter who's playing

592
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 11: if that's the only game on on Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 11: But man, they are making it. They are making it

595
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 11: so hard for someone to stay and want to stay

596
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 11: tuned in. And I, you know, I think they're reaching

597
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 11: new levels and new levels and new levels of people

598
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 11: that are just gonna at some point are just gonna say,

599
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 11: you know what, enough's enough.

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Speaker 3: I'm over it. I'm not watching anymore.

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Speaker 11: And you know, I've lived in Nashville for seventeen years,

602
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 11: but i was born and raised in Kansas City, so

603
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 11: I'm a Chiefs fan, and I've had a good run.

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00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 3: You know, last five, six, seven years have been good

605
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: to me. But it's just getting to the point where.

606
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 11: Where I think, I think, I think bigger blocks of

607
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 11: people are going to stop tuning in, and I'm wrestling

608
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 11: with it myself.

609
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: I just can't take it.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're right. You know. I still watch the games.

611
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: I won't go to them. I won't spend my money

612
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: on the Saints because we have the Saints stand here

613
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: because the prices are exorbitant, and you know I'm making

614
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: that statement. I will occasionally go if someone gives me tickets,

615
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: but I'm not watching Tomorrow Bad Bunny and going to

616
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: be watching our programming and what everyone else is hopefully

617
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: going to be watching, turning point USA, and let's see

618
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: what kind of numbers it draws. Hopefully it'll be impressive.

619
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about something else, Andy, you're a music guy.

620
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Of course, we had the Grammys the other night and

621
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Speaker 2: this idiot winner talked about stolen Land, and then we

622
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: found out that Billie Eilish's mansion is on stolen land.

623
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Speaker 2: So should she actually move out and turn over her

624
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: mansion to the tongue of the tribe.

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00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 11: There, Yeah, the t try its ancestry land. And not

626
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 11: only should I guess it's her words, she should turn

627
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 11: it over.

628
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 3: But I find it.

629
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Speaker 11: Interesting that that mansion of hers is in her property,

630
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 11: her family, her home, her homestead is well guarded and

631
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 11: gated and security. And I'll bet if you and I

632
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 11: went over there and walked in the front door and

633
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 11: broke out the you know, the margarita maker and started

634
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 11: making some food and sat down watching TV, I bet

635
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 11: she would call the police, although her words, there's no

636
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 11: one illegal on stolen land, So.

637
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why she'd call the police.

638
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 11: But it just amazes me that somebody understands that she

639
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 11: understands that she needs that privacy, that protection, and that

640
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 11: security to protect the border of her home, right, Well,

641
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 11: how you start protecting the border of your own home

642
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 11: is by protecting the border of your country. She wants

643
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 11: to protect her home, but it isn't interested in protecting

644
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 11: the border of the country where it.

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00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: All starts, where all of our homes are.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a great point. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: that's something I will not watch the Grammys. I only

648
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: saw these clips and people shared with me. I will

649
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: not watch the Emmys. When I watch the Oscars, I

650
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: just I hate the direction that these celebrities have gone in.

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Speaker 2: You can't just enjoy the music or the film. You

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Speaker 2: is enough and they're all left wing. Andy, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for what you do, and thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being with us here on the rings Ye

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Speaker 2: Politics program. Let's squeeze in one clip before we go

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Speaker 2: to a break, and you know Andy talking about keeping

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Speaker 2: our borders secure. Barack Obama used to believe in getting

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Speaker 2: Let's go to clip number four.

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Speaker 12: There are those in the immigrants rights community who have

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Speaker 12: an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It

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Speaker 12: would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that

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Speaker 12: there will be no repercussions for such a decision, and

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Speaker 12: this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration.

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Speaker 12: And it would also ignore the millions of people around

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Speaker 12: the world who are waiting in line to come here legally.

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Speaker 2: Boy, the Democrat Party has changed their messaging on this

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Speaker 2: issue over the years. Big time all right, A lot

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Speaker 2: more to get to as we roll on quick time out.

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Speaker 2: Keep it right here on Ringside, on Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back, presub politics.

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Speaker 3: We will put the news to.

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Speaker 1: You up front.

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Speaker 1: Alances, y'all, let's sas make Crystal Claire rapsycholitics.

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Speaker 2: With your host Sacre. All Right, one of our good

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Speaker 2: friends is joining us. Forensic psychiatrist, best selling author known

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Speaker 2: as America psychiatrist, doctor Carol Lieberman is with us. Hey,

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Speaker 2: doctor Carol, how are you hi?

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Speaker 6: They're fine?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? As fine as.

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Speaker 10: Environment?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. So you've been posting about

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Speaker 2: this Savannah Guthrie her mom, and wanted to share some

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Speaker 2: of the things You've been asking about the reward. You've

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Speaker 2: been wondering why the reward is not bigger, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean we're talking about you know, we've seen much bigger rewards.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you think they've increased it?

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Speaker 10: That is the question. It's something that really infuriates me because,

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Speaker 10: you know, we all can't help but sort of identify

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Speaker 10: with Savannah and imagine how we would feel if our

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Speaker 10: mother had been abducted. And I can't imagine not begging, borrowing,

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Speaker 10: or stealing enough money to order to offer like a

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Speaker 10: million dollar reward for information leading to her capture. It

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Speaker 10: just bottles my mind. You know, it kind of makes

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Speaker 10: you wonder, well, I mean, of course she wants her

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Speaker 10: mother back. I really I can't figure out the answer.

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Speaker 10: I've been thinking about this for days.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, the nation is transfixed on this, and

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Speaker 2: you know we're talking about something of the utmost important.

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Speaker 2: We got all the resources being deployed here. That just

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Speaker 2: seems odd. I've seen much bigger ones. Let's talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the ransom note describing the mother as

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Speaker 2: safe but scared. So as a forensic psychiatrist, this has

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Speaker 2: gotten your attention, tell us, tell us more.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, you.

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Speaker 10: Don't usually see words about feelings in notes from ransom

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Speaker 10: uh people who have abducted someone for ransom and safe

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Speaker 10: but scared. That seems to me purposely chosen those words,

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Speaker 10: chosen to get Savannah to act, to provide them with

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Speaker 10: the ransom money. You know, because you think you're thinking

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Speaker 10: about you think about your mother being scared. You know,

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Speaker 10: of course that's going to get to your heart. And

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Speaker 10: that was a little unusual. It seems like the person

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Speaker 10: had more of a personal connection, perhaps.

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Speaker 2: You know which I mean.

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Speaker 10: I know there's been this different opinions about whether the

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Speaker 10: son in law is involved.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I just know that some people are reporting that and

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Speaker 10: that they took his car the FBI. But uh no,

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Speaker 10: this is really There are a number of things that

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Speaker 10: are really strange about this, but primarily for me, I

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Speaker 10: don't know first of all, why they're not acting faster.

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Speaker 10: I mean, why they didn't act faster.

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Speaker 3: It's just very very difficult.

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Speaker 2: You know when when you look at the reward is

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Speaker 2: so minimal compared to what we've seen with others and

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Speaker 2: the resources involved here, but the ransom. Do you know

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Speaker 2: how much? Do we know how much that they're demanding

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Speaker 2: the kidnappers?

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Speaker 10: We know millions, I think it's been reported millions in bitcoin,

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Speaker 10: and yes, you know we I mean people, certainly Savannah

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Speaker 10: Guthrie has been it's been reported she has a multimillion

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Speaker 10: dollar bank account. I haven't seen her bank account. I'm

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Speaker 10: just but but this is it's just boggling plot. What

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Speaker 10: also boggled my mind is their their films, their there

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Speaker 10: calls to the you know, the videos that they made

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Speaker 10: to talk with the the abductor. They really did not

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Speaker 10: seem first of all, they were not very welcoming. I mean,

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Speaker 10: if it's not it didn't really encourage the abductor to

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Speaker 10: come forward. Yes, they said we want to hear from

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Speaker 10: what we want, but with a tone there was almost

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Speaker 10: like a defiant tone, like you know, who are you

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Speaker 10: what are you doing? And that's not what you that's

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Speaker 10: not gonna encourage.

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Speaker 2: Them to I have to ask you this doctor Carroll

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Speaker 2: as someone that saw Signs of the Lambs many times.

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Speaker 2: There's a scene in there where the senator's daughter has

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Speaker 2: been kidnapped and she appeals to the kidnapper, mentioning her

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Speaker 2: daughter's name, saying, you know, to talk to her. You

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Speaker 2: understand she's a good person, and that sort of the

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Speaker 2: same exact language that was used in the video that

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Speaker 2: the Guthrie family made. That seemed to be sort of

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Speaker 2: very odd to me. It's like this movie coming to

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Speaker 2: real life.

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Speaker 10: Well, yes, actually there were things that they said about

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Speaker 10: their mother that, on the one hand, was very sweet,

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Speaker 10: you know, and it was meant to to get the

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Speaker 10: sympathy of the abductors. You know, this is a wonderful

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Speaker 10: woman and she's she has such good heart. I'm not

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Speaker 10: you know, just paraphrasing. But on the other hand, then

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Speaker 10: they were saying things like, well, she's really tough and

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Speaker 10: you know, now, remember this woman has a pacemaker. She

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Speaker 10: may well be taught in terms of her personality, but

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Speaker 10: there are certain physical issues that have had a time limit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, what we're going to continue to pray,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Carol, Thank you so much. We appreciate your insights

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Speaker 2: as always. All Right, we're up against it, so let's

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Speaker 2: go and go to one of my favorite parts of

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Speaker 2: the program, where we share our memes of the week.

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Speaker 2: We got some good ones. This is from Kathy in

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Speaker 2: Sulfur and how appropriate is this? America will never be

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Speaker 2: great until we put God first. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for that. One is Kathy. Robert and Virginia's got a

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Speaker 2: few for us. Here's the first one. It is illegal

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Speaker 2: not to wear a mask. It get hurt. It is

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Speaker 2: illegal to wear a mask. We want you to get hurt.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And then the next one from Robert in Virginia, there's

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Speaker 2: Bill Gates. You'all got any more of them? STD antibiotics. Man,

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Speaker 2: if there's one person that came away looking bad, it's him.

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Speaker 2: Let's share our video of the week, sent to us

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Speaker 2: by A Doug in Florida. Let's check it out.

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Speaker 7: Do you think you can stand here and scare us?

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Speaker 6: Huh, You're not taking anyone.

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Speaker 3: You're the problem.

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Speaker 4: Look at you.

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Speaker 1: What I'm talking to you?

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Speaker 6: What are you gonna do? Tough guy can hide behind

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Speaker 6: that mask? Say something, ah my, oh.

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Speaker 2: Get it off on guest all right. If you've got

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Speaker 2: a video, a clip of the week you want to

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Speaker 2: send in, email me at Jeff at WGSO dot com,

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Speaker 2: a meme, a Trump image. We'd love to get them. Also,

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Speaker 2: of course, spread the word about our new time one

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Speaker 2: during the week, and we're gonna be working preparing for

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Speaker 2: the next show. So any thoughts, comments, I do you have, suggestions,

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Speaker 2: always appreciate it. You can email me at Jeff at

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