1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies a myth and Bullshit, a radiophonic novella. 2 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Look Radio hosted by Malamnola La Locomotives. Welcome to season 3 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: five of Local Radio pays Listen at your own risk. 4 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: Local Radio is a radiophonic novella, which is just a 5 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: very extra way of saying a podcast. I'm Theosa and 6 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm Mala. Welcome to Season five are one hundredth episode. 7 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Last time on Local Radio, we are discussed a really exciting, 8 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: controversial and intriguing topic and that is fake tina's. If 9 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: you haven't had a chance to listen, I highly recommend 10 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: tuning in took Up People, Little ninety nine. It's kind 11 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: of saucy. We talk about some of the most notorious 12 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: black fishing, brown fishing fake tina's who've made news recently. 13 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Make sure to check that out. We also include a 14 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: sneak peek of our brand new Patreon exclusive interview with 15 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Elaura Cassados, who plays the role of Jackie Ontivetos on 16 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Mry Glasias on Netflix. 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You love us way too much and we 35 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: love you for it, but we need our male listeners 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: are cis head male, masculine of center, privileged ass motherfucker's 37 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: who probably jerk off to the sounds of our voices. 38 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: You need to hit the venmo. We are talking to you. 39 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: We're going to talk more about fundraising and giving us 40 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: money later, but I want to lay the foundation for 41 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: that conversation and say thank you to our women, UM, 42 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: to our queer folks who listen. We love you all, 43 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate your support, We see you. 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Yes, we do. 61 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Shout out Viva because Viva has been like mentors slash 62 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: peers for like the past couple of years, like as 63 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: Local became more of a business and professionalized, like Leslie 64 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: especially has guided us and helped us and mentored us. 65 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: So shoutout Viva. The partnership the community is real. Um. 66 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: This is not just an ad um but speaking of 67 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to get into our the government 68 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: of today's episode because we have a lot to talk 69 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: about with our one episode. We want to take it 70 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: back from the beginning and also look forward to what's next. 71 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: For look at a radio one percent. We are one 72 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: hundred episodes old. We are not a baby podcast. We 73 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: are mature. We've we do this like we've done it 74 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: at least a hundred times. And we're going to take 75 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: a walk down memory lane with you all. And some 76 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: of you have been here since episode one. You've been 77 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: here since loc epistemologies like the day that it came out, 78 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: in the day that we launched the Instagram, and some 79 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: of you were in high school and we're literal children 80 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: and we low key raised you were mothers. So we're 81 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: here to honor and celebrate that. And we just have 82 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: a couple of questions that we're going to ask each 83 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: other to talk about, the good, the bad, the awkward, um, 84 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: the broke because it was never ugly, but there were 85 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: times where we were hungover. There were times where we 86 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: had no money, but always thriving and pushing towards towards 87 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: this moment right now. Yeah, you know one of the 88 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I think not talked about things right or it's not 89 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: spoken about as often when you are a founder of something. 90 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: A creator of something is like we like tell ourselves 91 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: a lot like, Okay, this is temporary, Like this is temporary. 92 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Like during the hard moments, the broke moments, the low moments, 93 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: the restless, tired nights right where we were both like 94 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: working our nine to fives and like staying up late 95 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: to like Prepper Locate Alive and we were exhausted and 96 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: had bags under our eyes, we would like tell each 97 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: other like this is temporary, Like this is gonna like 98 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: be a full time thing, this is gonna be lucrative. 99 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: And we weren't doing it for it to be lucrative, right, 100 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: That's never been the goal, but along the way it 101 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: became a full fledged business, right, And so we're gonna 102 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: let's let's start from the beginning and why we launched 103 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: look at our radio. What was like the driving force 104 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: for you, Mala Well, I mean you honestly, because I 105 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: would not have probably would not have started a podcast 106 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: on my own unless like somebody had, you had asked, 107 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: somebody had asked. So really, I think that like meeting 108 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: each other and becoming friends was definitely what allowed all 109 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: of this to happen because and we've talked about this 110 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: before in bits and pieces, you know, like at this 111 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: stage of the game, like I'm twenty nine, I've started 112 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: all kinds of projects and things and stuff, but very 113 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: few maintain and like grow. But this has right because 114 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is, we just worked well together and like 115 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: this podcast was gonna get made. Like it's like it's 116 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: like it has a life of its own and it's 117 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: going to find a way to get made. And we're 118 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: just like the puppets of local Like yes, that is 119 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: so true. Um, yeah know, I you know, had this 120 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: idea to start a podcast, and like I always like 121 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: to shout out the podcasters that were doing it before 122 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: we were, and one of them was radiomena because they 123 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: are journalists, they're both writers, they've both been in organizing 124 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: activist spaces, and then they also started a podcast, and 125 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: so when I first started listening to them, to me, 126 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: it was like the most successible thing in the sense 127 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: that I was like, well, they have jobs and they 128 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: have a podcast, so that's something I could do, right, 129 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: And so when I presented the idea to Mala, you know, 130 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: it just made sense. It was a perfect fit. And 131 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: it really, like Mala said, just took on a life 132 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: of its own, and we are the puppets of look 133 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: at Radio. Because it was gonna get made, it was 134 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It was just like, you know, not to 135 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: be like cheesy, but it's just like the timing, the 136 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: cosmic nous of it all. You know, it was supposed 137 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: to happen when it did, and it's thrived because it 138 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: was supposed to And we're here because as it was 139 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: supposed to get us here. Yes, I agree completely. We 140 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: had no way of knowing back then that we would 141 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: end up where we are now. I don't think the 142 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: idea of putting out a hundred episodes ever crossed our minds. 143 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't think we had an end goal or like 144 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: a vision, and again and again, there was a point 145 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: where I think you started. You started talking about, like, 146 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: imagine where we are, where we could be in a 147 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: year with this, you know, imagine like and and and 148 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: I remember being like, oh, she's thinking of this, like 149 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: this is like a like a thing thing like this, 150 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, And I hadn't. For me. I was like, Okay, 151 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: we get together and we put you know, we put 152 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: on it like it's fun, like you know. And then 153 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: and You're like, and you were like talking about it 154 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: in these very sort of aspirational and professional and like 155 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: business like terms. And I had never considered that podcasting. 156 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was very uneducated about the podcasting space, 157 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: so I didn't realize that this thing could become. We're 158 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: talking about brands and selling ad spaces and talking to networks, 159 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: and we have attorneys and so we have a website. 160 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: It's the whole thing, you know, and we have a team. 161 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been definitely, um a learning process for sure. Yeah, 162 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: because I think even when I when we first started, 163 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: and I would think like in a year from now, 164 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: it was never from like a business sense. It was 165 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: always from like a community measure Like if at this point, 166 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: six months in we have all these women and fem's 167 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: community folks resonating with the podcast, imagine where it'll take 168 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: us in a year and you know so And I 169 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: think that that's why it's worked because we didn't set 170 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: out to be a brand. And like, that's what I 171 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: really try to emphasize every time we do any type 172 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: of podcasting workshop, is like you can tell when folks 173 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: are trying to be a brand. They want the podcast 174 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: to be a business, you know, and there are pros 175 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: and cons to that, right, and sometimes it works and 176 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. Um. Oftentimes I've seen that it doesn't work. Um. 177 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: And I think that that's why we have been really 178 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: successful because we weren't trying to make a lot of 179 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: money off of it. We weren't trying to like be 180 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: phony or fake or like gain quote followers. It was 181 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: about community and like we're still rooted in that, so 182 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, yes, yeah, yeah, And it's interesting because I 183 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: think now, you know, I were spend so much time 184 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: online and a lot of the online spaces that I 185 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: find myself in or like related to digital creativity, arts 186 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: and entertainment podcasting, but also now small businesses and you know, 187 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: getting funding and pitching and growing your your idea all 188 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: these things, because that's the other side of what we're 189 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: doing that Like now, I think that that has been 190 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the hardest part for us is taking the like raw 191 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: idea that is based in fun and our friends and 192 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: our community and realizing like, oh, it's become this big 193 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: thing and like we have to professionalize and we have 194 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: to address and cover the business side of it. I 195 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: think it's been the hardest part, you know, it has. 196 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: It's been the most challenging part because we didn't set 197 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: off to do that, and so I think now it's 198 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: like going if we if I were to give us advice, 199 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: like if I were to know all that I know now, 200 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: back then, I would say, like give your guests a 201 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:54,359 Speaker 1: release form, don't play fucking Rihanna Beyonce on your podcast 202 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: episodes for the full length of the song, you know, 203 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: like those things, because we really had no idea what 204 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: we were doing or where it would go. And so 205 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: like that's the advice I would give us now is like, 206 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: don't play copyright music girl, Like, yeah, create your own style, 207 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: you create your own songs, which we had the jingle 208 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: but it's like at the time, it's like, oh, yeah, 209 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: what's wrong with playing Beyonce or Selena jail exactly exactly. 210 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: We weren't thinking of copyright and this, that and the other. 211 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: I also like that we do just enough research to 212 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: like get the thing done, but we don't over research, 213 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: and I think that that can be like I feel 214 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: like it can be something that holds you back sometimes 215 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: like oh I don't know every inch of this thing 216 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: backwards and forwards, like I can't speak on it or 217 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: work with it. But I think that this project has 218 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: also taught me like it's okay to just like do 219 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: it and just put it out there and we'll figure 220 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: out the rest later. It's gonna work out, you know. Well. 221 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: I think the thing too, is like, even if you 222 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: do know everything, you're never going to cover it all 223 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: in fifty minutes to an hour. So whenever like people 224 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: listeners or folks on Instagram comment and say like, oh, 225 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: you didn't cover this right or what about what did 226 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: you think about this? And I'm like, yeah, maybe we 227 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: thought about it, or maybe we didn't. Maybe you just 228 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: slipped our minds during the actual recording process, right, And 229 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: so a lot of the times, it's just like, well, 230 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: we can't cover everything because a lot of the tough 231 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: topics that we cover can be their own podcast series, 232 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: right or shows. And we have fifty minutes to cover 233 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: an extensive list of things, and sometimes we are going 234 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: to miss things, right, And so we appreciate when y'all 235 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: are like, hey, this would have been a great addition, 236 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: but also, you know, we can't cover everything all the time. Yeah, 237 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: and like I loved her, remind you all, this ship 238 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: is still fret. We're going to address that in the 239 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: second half of today's episode. But yeah, it's true. And 240 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: I think about back back in the day when we 241 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: were still recording at EsPAS thirty nine, we were quite 242 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: often showing up to record, um, this podcast a little hangover, 243 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: a little sleep deprived, maybe a little blazed, you know 244 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. So again and again, like we're having 245 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: serious discussions or talking about tough things, but we're also 246 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: just kind of shooting the ship and just chatting, you know, 247 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: like we're not defending a thesis on the podcast is 248 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: and that's why I appreciate the format. Also, yeah, it's 249 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: audio art. It's an archive, you know, I can like, look, 250 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: I can hear certain episodes and be like, wow, we 251 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: were like partying all night the night before we recorded this, 252 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: and Amala had to go and get us coffee and 253 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: like princes from La Monica because we were like dying 254 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: and we needed sustenance. You know. It's like those are 255 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: like the little behind the scenes things that like you'll 256 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: never know, but we know what happened the day of Yeah, okay, 257 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: other behind the scenes because I miss this and I'll 258 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: be messy and share this because I'm bored and I 259 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: need a little drama in my life. So the other 260 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: behind the scenes tidbit. When we used to record at 261 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: a spas, there was a gentleman. He still exists, a 262 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: gentleman who, um, you know, works at a local food 263 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: business and and this establishment is close enough to a 264 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: spacio that like, you know, we would go being all 265 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: cute and put in our food orders and kind of 266 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: like flirt with him verbally abuse him a little bit, 267 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: like in front of his clientele. And but he loved it. 268 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: And then he would like deliver our lunch to us 269 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: and like bring it over and like walk it over 270 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that we ate. While we're like setting 271 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: up and outlining and like we're like testing the audio. 272 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: He's like, here's your lunch girls. Yes, And then we 273 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 1: ran into him once at a party, lots lots of 274 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: times that can leave run into him drunk every drunk 275 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: and messy time. Every time we saw him out at 276 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: a party, we were we fucked up. And then he 277 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: would see us recording and we would like come in 278 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: and like we need backles. Can I get the burrito 279 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: bowl and a large scale juice please? Thank you? Yeah? 280 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Pretty much, That's exactly what would happen. So shout out 281 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: to him unnamed man who fed the podcast. He never 282 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: gave us a free meal, never a discount, but he 283 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: would deliver the food and for that we appreciate him. No, 284 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: I would tell him all the time because he wouldn't 285 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: give us free chips. And I'd be like, dude, and 286 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: that's why we're not going to shout out the name 287 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: of his business. Yeah. I would be like, come on, dude, 288 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: like we'd come here all the time, like we have 289 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: a rapport. You can't give us chips for free? No, 290 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: we would have. We would have given him a free 291 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: ad on the podcast, and I, Hoully, I hope you're listening. 292 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: You know who you are you know who he is? 293 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: He likes to troll the I G. Sometimes he likes 294 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: to tell the IG. But you know what, I don't 295 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: think he would ever sit through this much of an episode, 296 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't. I don't think so either. 297 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: He'll he'll never know that this happened. It's a love 298 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: hate relationship. If any shore you can guess who this 299 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: is D M. S. But don't write it publicly because 300 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: we would be embarrassed. We would be embarrassed pretty much. Yeah, yes, 301 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: that being sad. But that being said, we you know, 302 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: prior to the pandemic, we're recording at his fassio for 303 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: about three years. And in all of that, right in 304 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: the past four years, almost four and a half years, 305 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: we've you know, gone all across the country, have delivered keynotes, 306 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: facilitated workshops at different universities like Stanford, Northwestern, Williams, u 307 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: C L a USC. Shout out to all the students 308 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: that have invited us all across the country. I can't 309 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: it's like even hard to think about, like a favorite trip, 310 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, but like one of one of my favorites 311 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: was like Wisconsin, going to Wisconsin. Wisconsin went to Yeah, 312 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: I went to Milwaukee. Isn't that in Wisconsin? Oh? I 313 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: guess so? Um that was it. That's been its own things, 314 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: like traveling and we're like, we don't know where the 315 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: funk we're going. It's true. My love really never gon 316 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: knows where we're going. She's just like where is this 317 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: on the map? What we both are like, where is 318 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: this on the map? Um Ben to Mowah hockey. We've 319 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: been to Texas of my favorites. To Texas was so 320 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: much fun. We've been to lots of places. We have 321 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: yet to go to New York. That was like a 322 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: goal for but life had other plans. But yeah, we've 323 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: been lots of places. Oregon was cool. Oregon was the 324 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: first out of state gig that we had, and so 325 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. The students were great. They were 326 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: very chill, they like it. Took us to a really 327 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: good Ramen place by campus. They were very fun. I 328 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: liked Williams too, because I didn't realize how far up 329 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: in the mountains Williams was, and then when we got 330 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: there it was like, oh my god, we're really going 331 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: into the wilderness. Yes. That and then being in Charlotte'sville, 332 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was wild. Shout out to Garina, 333 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: longtime listener, and also invited us out to Charlotte'sville, where 334 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: she lives now from She's from California. Um. Yeah, we've 335 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: been to lots of places and it's been really exciting. 336 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: It's been really great. Chicago was so fun. Chicago was 337 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: so much fun. Our broke trip. That might have been 338 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: one of my favorites. That might have been my favorite. 339 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. We almost missed our 340 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: flight back. We had no money, no money, We had 341 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: zero dollars, like and in our personal accounts as well 342 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: as the podcast account, just no dollars. We had this 343 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: like speaking fee, like we had to check, you know, 344 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: but it's like we didn't. It wasn't in our account yet. 345 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: And it was just the kindness of people around us 346 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: who like it got us through and we didn't have 347 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: to really ask anyone for I didn't ask anyone. Everyone 348 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: offered us, even down to like just rides, like the 349 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: ride from the bar at the end of the night 350 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: to get hamburgers. My friend Lou drove us. He bought 351 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: us food, He got us to our hotel. Your friend 352 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: got us to the airport, got us luge and all 353 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: these people they offered, Oh, I got it, I got 354 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: it all. Take you guys, I'll nobody. Nobody knew we 355 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: were broke. We didn't tell anybody. We both we both knew, 356 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: but we didn't tell anybody like, hey can you spot me? Hey, 357 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: can you get me Nadia? Now it was just us. 358 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: We knew, we knew, and we and Mala host And 359 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: when we got to the airport, we got to Chicago 360 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: and we were waiting for our uber to take us 361 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: to the hotel where also our uber driver hit a pedestrian. 362 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: The story the story wait wait, wait before before we go, 363 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: before we got there, when we're waiting for our uber, 364 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: right and we're like, okay, we're broke. I left my 365 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: credit cards in l A. Let's like post on the 366 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: venmo maybe like some people will send us donation. Is 367 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: the first person to the donation was our friend Harvey, 368 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: who you know has done lots of work for us, 369 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: volunteer work for us, and he sent us a Venmo 370 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: and was like, have a little ca facito on me. 371 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: And we were like have you know, like not you well, 372 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: why would you send us money right now? Um? And 373 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: then we got into our Uber and our uber driver 374 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: hit up pedestrian and was like, oh I didn't see 375 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: him there? Whoofs. It was crazy. It was crazy because, 376 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: first of all, let me just say, it's never the 377 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: ones who make all kinds of demands of us and 378 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: demands of the audio and tell us what to say 379 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: and record and criticize this. They're never the ones who 380 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: donate money. Ever. That's true. It's always like our selfless 381 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, generous friends, our friends, our listeners like that 382 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: have been rocking with us. Because like here's the thing. 383 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: It's we don't know all of our listeners, but we 384 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: do know the ones that are like commenting all the time, 385 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: posting dm NG, showing up at events like we we've 386 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: been doing this for four years. We recognize the names, 387 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, and so we know when like y'all are 388 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: sending like multiple venmo donations like within a year or 389 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: within a couple of months, that kind of thing, Like 390 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: we know that, we know that, and we're like, oh, 391 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: look at look at so and so sent us like 392 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: the sweet message and like X amount of dollars you know, so, 393 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: like we notice. But it's true, it's never the ones 394 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: that are talking shit that are sending the never the 395 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: ones that are like criticizing the audio and are like, oh, 396 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: here's a thousand dollars to pay your audio editor. Exactly. 397 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: You think you think good audio just comes out of nowhere. 398 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: You good audio cost money, honey. So if you're gonna complaint, 399 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: throw us a couple of pins. Jesus h Jesus horation 400 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: she oh Christ anyway, so in chaving on where in Chicago? 401 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: And so yeah. The what was so wild is the 402 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: way that the uber driver hit the pedestrian. I was 403 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: like up against the window and his body rolled up 404 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: against the window. And the way that the uber driver 405 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: said it was like, oh he ran he hit me, 406 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: he ran into Yeah, he hit me. He hit me. Also, 407 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: Mala like only packed chunk las with her. When we 408 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: got to the hotel, she was like, I have to 409 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: go to Target, and she like went and had to 410 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: buy shoes with her last twenty dollars. Basically yeah, like 411 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: they had like one pair of like size seven like 412 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: black booties left on sale sale that I could maybe 413 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: a born. It was a mess, dude, It was a 414 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: sacking mess. But we killed our presentation. Um, we got in, 415 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: we got out. Like I remember being at lunch with 416 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: your friends, like our final meal there and we're like 417 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: eating and I remember thinking to myself, how the funk 418 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: are we going to pay for this? And I looked 419 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: over at you and you were so hung over. You 420 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: were Fiolsa was barely alive, you guys, because we went 421 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: out the night before and the fe Juanas bought so 422 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: many shots of what Bisco of bischool that I was 423 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: I was dead dead, I was gone. Like the next day, 424 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: I was like where am I? Who am I? And 425 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: in Chicago they kept telling us, you guys need to 426 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: try these fried pickles and cheese curds. So we eat. 427 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: So we're eating the fried pickles and cheese kurds and 428 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: the also is like barely there and this is theos's friend, 429 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I don't know how we're going 430 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: to pay for things. I'm eating the fried pickles and 431 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: the cheese curds, but I'm like, we don't have money 432 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: for these cheese kurds. But I look over yes, and 433 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: you seem relaxed. You seemed like not that worried about it. 434 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, Like it's gonna be okay. 435 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: And your friend offered the favorite everything and it just worked. 436 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: It was fine. It was hilarious because she had no idea. 437 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: She still doesn't know if she listened, she'll know now, 438 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: but she still does not know how broke we were. 439 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: And she like offered to take us to the airport, 440 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: bought us meals, like bought us on lunch, and then 441 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: we almost missed her flight. She was like, oh, you 442 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: can just come back with me. It's fine, you can 443 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: just stay with me. Like it would have been okay, 444 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: but Mole I was wearing this little dress and quitter 445 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: run across the airport. Yeah, that was one of the 446 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: funniest while this Brokes Brokes trips that we've been on. 447 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we were like so late to catch our flight, 448 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: and like I could not run. I was wearing one 449 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: of the of stresses that with every step it rode 450 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: all the way up like my labia. We're like waving hello, 451 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: like to the people of Chicago, like Nagas were out 452 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: that day, like run, I'm like I can't. I was like, 453 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: are you gotta run? And we get to that, we 454 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: get to the gate and they're like, oh, we were 455 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: about to give your seats up. Glad you made it. 456 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: But we honestly but we did it. We pulled it off. 457 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: We did it, and I do want to share like 458 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: that trip was like the most that set the tear 459 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: for like our speaking fee that was like speaking on 460 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: Northwestern was like the most we had ever been paid. 461 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: And then that's set the standard for like, Okay, this 462 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: is our worst because people that that's the thing, Like 463 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: people tell you this is what you're worth. You always 464 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: have to ask for this, and then you do when 465 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: people are like, well know, you know, and so then 466 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: you're like, well, okay, okay, let me ask for a lesson. 467 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: But then once you actually do get paid what you 468 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: are worth, you're like, okay, this is literally what I'm 469 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: going to get paid. Now you must pay it to me. 470 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: We're not doing it. Yeah, it's confusing. It's also confusing 471 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: because nobody talks about money. And we'll do a money 472 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: episode at some point because we've been in that We've 473 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: been in that space for about a year now where 474 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: where nobody wants to talk about money, but everyone wants 475 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: to ask you for your budget. Yeah, yeah, that's okay. Yes, 476 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: a money episode is very much needed, man, and there's 477 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: still so much more to cover. We're like still in 478 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: our nostalgia part of this episode. We have so much 479 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: to talk about, one thing that we've also done multiple 480 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: times that is a little bit of our pride and 481 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: Joyment's so sad we can't do this now, but look, 482 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I thought alive a podcast party. Our very first one 483 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: was at Civic Center Studios. Yeah, at Civic Center Studios, 484 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: and we were joined by the lovely Mayamudio and the 485 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: very talented Curly Velasquez and we will Curly likes to 486 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: call it a baby shower. We did. We did baby 487 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: shower games. But if you were if you were there, 488 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: if you were there, you know it was a Latinox 489 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: variety show and it was a lot of fun. It 490 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: was our first live show and we had an after 491 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: party after and seeing the way people, seeing the way 492 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: y'all our listeners, our community showed up, we were like, oh, well, 493 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: we need to make this a thing, and so then 494 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: we did. And then after that we had on our 495 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: second show, and that's when we had Darina Tomarco and 496 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Julius also at Civic Center Studios. And we love, love 497 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: love our DJs that always play our parties, DJ Zuri 498 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: and DJ Sizzle Fantastic. They kill it. Every time, and 499 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: those parties were so fun. Our very last look, I 500 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: thought alive a podcast party, we didn't boil heights at 501 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: the Paramount, which is a legendary venue, and we actually 502 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: showed a short film that we shot and created and 503 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: started called Loki Tha' is Anonymous. You can watch Lokitha 504 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: is Anonymous. Actually, it's an eight minute short. It's on YouTube. 505 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: It's also on our I G t V. I recommend 506 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: watching it on YouTube. It's really fun. Uh Zuri is 507 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: in it. DJ Zeri is in it, also Jen from 508 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: the Block, Vanessa, Romo, casol Um, Ethical Punk, who else 509 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: the trap? You got this Emelie yes, Um yeah. It's 510 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: like a star studded Latin X All Star cast and 511 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: it's a sci fi short. It's a sci fi short. 512 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: It's really cute. Mala created it. It's like was her 513 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: concept that we like brought to life and it's really beautiful. 514 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: It's like something we want to continue filming at some point. Um. 515 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: And so we created that as like a proof of 516 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: concept and it was really fun. And so we based 517 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: our third look, uh look at the Live podcast party 518 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: off of that short, and um we had a DJ 519 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: Suti DJ Sizzle and Djaramelo at the Paramount and that 520 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. It was great and we 521 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: had a panel and it was amazing. And that was 522 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: the last live show that we did. Yeah, it was sadly, 523 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: sadly And now we're we're still doing like talks and 524 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: things like that, but we've had to kind of shift 525 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: our programming focus away from the parties and the university talks, 526 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: and now we we're doing things like recording more episodes 527 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: and selling ads space and you know, creating merch like 528 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: finding other ways to grow the pot cast since the 529 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: in person stuff isn't really possible for us right now. 530 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: And and and and and and and and and and 531 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 532 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and um um um 533 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: um um um um um um um um um um 534 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: um um of it and bull ship um um um. 535 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: Before we get into um looking at look at Dora 536 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: in the future, we do want to go over some 537 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: podcast glow ups. And I talked about some famously bad 538 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: audio before are amazing talented audio editor Jordan's joined our team, 539 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: and so one of I think the worst episodes quality 540 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: wise audio wise was actually a favorite episode of mine, 541 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: which was hypified UM episode that we did with Marvin 542 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: and then David Chavez, and they were amazing. They were 543 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: so talented, they dropped so much insight. And this was 544 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: like at the height of the Panda at the beginning 545 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: of the pandemic, and Zoom was like crashing. Like this 546 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: is like when Zoom was like inundated. It didn't have 547 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: the proper software updates right to like handle all these 548 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: people on it, and the quality was like it was 549 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: very glitchy. And that's like probably one of the saddest 550 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: things is because it was such a good episode and 551 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: the quality was so bad because of Zoom. And so 552 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: that's like one example of like a glow up from 553 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: then to now. Oh yeah. And like we've had listeners 554 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: tell us over the years that the audio is not bad, 555 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: like big comment, and it's like, yes, this is that 556 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: is true. That feedback is valid. UM. So we're super 557 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: happy to be in a place where we can bring 558 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: on a team. You know, we can work with an 559 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: audio editor like Jordan's and compensate her for her skill 560 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: and for her time, and it's reflected I think now 561 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: in the audio the audio does sound way better. UM. 562 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: And as podcasters. It is audio art, so I guess 563 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: it matters like the sound quality, it matters that, I guess, 564 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: I guess. But the ship is still free, as Mala 565 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: always likes to say, Yeah, but it sounds good now, 566 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: sounds good now. Yes, we also like other things. Our 567 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: website is gorgeous. Mariana, our web designer, is top tier 568 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: and she's very talented and she brought our online shop 569 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: to life and she built it from the ground up 570 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: so we can get all of our look I thought 571 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: on merged to you all. We love that. Yes, and 572 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: we are also active on Patreon. We have been sharing 573 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: airing interviews with Patreon exclusive guest like a Lori Casado's. 574 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: We did a panel conversation with Melina Boadilla, gottas, Vette act, 575 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Vette Montoya, a k Evette actually um and us on 576 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: Patreon and we talked about Selena the series and that 577 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: was an amazing conversation. And then prior to that, Mal 578 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: and I have done like zoom calls with our patrons 579 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: and that's always really cute to like and fun to 580 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: get to know our patrons and in a more intimate way. Yeah, 581 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: our patrons are cool. We want to thank our patrons 582 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: for also supporting us and supporting the work and wanting 583 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: more look at which is always exciting. We also want 584 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: to thank, speaking of the merch that we sell, our designer, 585 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: Mica Amorrow, who is a very talented artist and she 586 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: helps take our ideas and our sayings and she brings 587 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: them to life so that we can create the cute 588 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: merch that you all have been buying and wearing. And 589 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: we love that everything from the stickers to the look good, 590 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: talk Me and all baddies go to Heaven stuff that's 591 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: micas So check her out as well. Yeah, we have 592 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: a team now, which I think is the ultimate glow 593 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: up is like all these people are part of our team. 594 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: Jessica red Heart Media, who did our season five visuals, 595 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: I think these are I've loved all of our visuals 596 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: and all the photographers we've worked with, but this just 597 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: really kind of screams to me like we have arrived, 598 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: We have come into our own like boom, you know. Yeah. 599 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: Season five visuals to me scream like boss bitches. They 600 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: know what they're doing, they have arrived, They're in it 601 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: to win it. Like That's what I think of when 602 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: I see when I see Season five, and they also 603 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: like funck respectability politics were you know in lingerie and 604 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: we're we're glamorous and we're still doing it. Yeah, And 605 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: we've been wanting to do lingerie shoots for some time now. 606 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: We've been talking about it. It's definitely been in the 607 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: plans and this seemed like as good a time as any. 608 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: When I showed and our mom's had very different responses. 609 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: When I showed my mom um the photo shoot, she said, 610 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: and what really, like is the point of the lingerie? 611 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: What exactly what was the reason behind the lingdree And 612 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't really give her an answer other than like, 613 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: because we wanted to. Yeah, because I don't literally because 614 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: we wanted to, that was that was the reason. That 615 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: was the motivating factor. My mom loved it. She was like, 616 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, mama's legs look amazing. You look amazing. 617 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 1: Like she was just praise on praise and praise on praise. 618 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: She loved it. Um. Of course, we like didn't show 619 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: my dad um and she was like, what is like 620 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: my what she was asking me, like, what is my 621 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: partner gonna say? Like? And he was like he was like, oh, 622 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: it looks at every everyone looks like, y'all both look amazing, 623 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: like everyone, this is like a great concept. He saw it. 624 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: Praise on my end, which is good. It's good to know. 625 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it doesn't surprise me. Also, like 626 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: if my mom had had that reaction like your mom, Mala, 627 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: like I would have been like, yeah, okay, it makes sense. 628 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: It makes sense, like mom's I'm not okay, I see it. 629 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: She didn't hate it. She was just like, so what 630 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: direction are you guys taking this pot the concept? She's like, 631 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: you just explain it to me. Explain to me, like 632 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm a child because I don't get it. That's so funny. 633 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, so we have just I'm very proud 634 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: of us. We've glowed up, like I think in all 635 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: ways at this point. Yeah, I agree, and we are 636 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: ready for the next glow up. And so the next 637 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: glow up we are launching. Look at our productions. You 638 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: heard it here first, like literally we've told people behind 639 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: the scenes here and there. We've been sharing as we've 640 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: been working on it. But essentially, if you've been following 641 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: us and listening, then what you've heard over the years 642 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: is essentially the building of a production company. We described 643 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: our team and our process and our method and how 644 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: we built it, and what we are is an in 645 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: house production a podcast production company. So we're formalizing it. 646 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: We're taking ourselves seriously. We are getting our LLC in order. 647 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: We have a team of attorneys, we have our trademark. 648 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: We are looking to grow this business into something amazing, 649 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: and we want to keep podcasting and we want to 650 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: keep making short films and whatever else is in store 651 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: for us. So to do that, we need money, and 652 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: famously we have done this with no money. But there 653 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: comes a time and every like small businesses life, that 654 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, we realize that we need to crowdfund, and 655 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're doing. We're launching our very first 656 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: crowd fund. So in alignment with our hundredth episode, we're 657 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: announcing that we are starting our road to a hundred 658 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. We are launching an I Fund Women campaign 659 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: in the of crowdfunding a hundred thousand dollars towards the 660 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: creation of look at that our productions and you also 661 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: is going to tell us a little bit more about 662 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: what that thousand dollars is going to like cover, like 663 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: what how does that help us? Yeah? Absolutely, so, like 664 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: As many of you know, Local is completely self funded. 665 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: We're an independent podcast. We don't work with a network, 666 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: we don't have angel investors, we don't have seed money. 667 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: We have completely put our own money into the podcast. 668 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: And then once we started making money with our speaking gigs, 669 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: our merchant sales are virtual webinars and all of that 670 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: good stuff, it's all gone straight back into production costs 671 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: and so realistically we don't get paid to produce, to write, 672 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: to host look at our radio, And that has been 673 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: the driving force of why up until recently, we both 674 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: worked full time. Mala is officially a full time employee 675 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: Look at that our radio, which is exciting, um. But 676 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: that is a big reason why we are launching log 677 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: at our productions to not only pay ourselves, but also 678 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: pay our team. Well. We have an audio editor, we 679 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: have a graphic designer, we have a web designer, we 680 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: have a photo visual person Jessica red Heart Media UM. 681 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: And we also want to hire more people on because 682 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: with launching look at That our radio productions or look 683 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: at the our productions, that means that we will be 684 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: creating more podcast which means a bigger team, which means 685 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: more producers, which means more audio editors researchers, and that 686 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: also means that we will not always be hosting a 687 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: podcast on Look at the Our Productions. It means that 688 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: we will be seeking out new and original talent to 689 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: create their own podcast with Look at the Our Productions. Absolutely, 690 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: So if you're listening and you see the vision and 691 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: you're interested in helping out and supporting, remember to subscribe 692 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: to Look at Though our radio first and foremost, if 693 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: you're not already subscribing, do that. That's a major way 694 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: to help an indie podcast really get it's on its 695 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: land legs. And follow the Instagram. You can sign up 696 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 1: to receive our newsletter Bestitos, And if you are following 697 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: all these channels, then you are gonna know about the 698 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to donate to our crowdfund the minute it 699 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: goes live. So we want to encourage everybody to check 700 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 1: out our I Fund Women crowdfunding campaign. And we also 701 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: want to share a little bit of like kind of 702 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: a little more of a behind the scenes into why 703 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: it's so important for us to remain indie and to 704 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: create our own production studio and to own our own material. 705 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: So as we've sort of shared and hinted that we 706 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: have been in talks with different podcasting networks for the 707 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: sake of transparency as listeners, I think it's important for 708 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: you to like kind of understand and how tricky this 709 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: landscape can be and why we keep doing this indeping 710 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: the way we do it. So we've talked to like 711 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: the major networks, right, and we have a lot of 712 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: hope that we can create something with a major podcasting network. 713 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: But something that they don't always tell you when it 714 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: comes to the idea of creating with a network or 715 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: with the studio, is that a network or a studio 716 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: that picks up your project is going to want to 717 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: make a profit off of your project. And that can 718 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: sometimes come with networks and studios desiring to own of 719 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: your project, even if it's a completely original idea in 720 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: our case look at our radio, right, or wanting to 721 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: also um take a percentage of the ad sales that 722 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: a podcast might be selling on their project, right, taking 723 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: advantage of existing subscribers and listeners, brand recognition and traffic, 724 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: stuff that we have worked for years at this point 725 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: to cultivate. And it gets to a point where you 726 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 1: realize that if the networks in the studios are interested 727 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: in your project, it's because they see a long term 728 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: financial gain potentially from owning your project, like as a 729 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: property or as an asset. And for us, it's so 730 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: important that we own everything, even if that means saying 731 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: no sometimes to really enticing offers to work with like 732 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: a brand, our network, or not being afraid to negotiate 733 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: and to push back and to really stand firm like 734 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: on our boundaries and our terms. And that's kind of 735 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: what we've been going through recently behind the scenes. And 736 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: I think that every conversation we've had with a network 737 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: has affirmed our need to keep being indie and to 738 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: raise this money on our own and to like establish 739 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: our studio for ourselves. Like honestly, there's from what what 740 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: we're seeing, I feel like there's no other way to 741 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: do it, right. Yeah, it's it's definitely exciting and enticing 742 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: when this like really big network is after you and 743 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: pursuing you and according you and doing the whole thing. 744 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: But the devil is in the detail, right, and so 745 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: sometimes the best contracts or the most exciting and ideas 746 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,959 Speaker 1: or scenarios aren't actually the most beneficial to you long term. 747 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: And so we are committed to continuing the mission of 748 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: look At Our Radio, which is to archive the legacies, 749 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: geniuses and brilliance of women in films of color. That 750 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: is the core of look at and what we want 751 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: to continue to do with not only our own podcast, 752 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: but with future shows that we create, either for ourselves 753 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: for look at the our productions as a part of 754 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: look at the Radio, and also future shows that we 755 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: produce for other talent and host Absolutely, and we are 756 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: constantly looking at our Instagram feeds, are Twitter feeds, honestly 757 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: the pool of people who listen to us and follow us, 758 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: and we're always thinking about like, Wow, this person would 759 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: make a great podcast host. This person would be great 760 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: on a podcast. I would love to hear a podcast 761 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: by this person. So we're always like all heat thows 762 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: out there, honestly, like scouting for talent and thinking about 763 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: like as a production company, wanting to create new podcasts 764 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: that are completely different than this one, right but like 765 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: somehow in the universe and in alignment with like our 766 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: our basic mission, we are always like talking about the 767 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: possibilities for new shows, you know, different genres and scripted 768 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: and with different talents. So just know that, like we're 769 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 1: out here and we want to work with new people 770 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: to create new art. And that's part of the reason 771 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: why we're launching this crowdfunding campaign so that we can 772 00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: feasibly get high quality projects made, because, as we've learned, 773 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: it takes money to create a high quality podcast with 774 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: staying power and really get it out there um in 775 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: the way that art deserves to be publicized. Right. So, 776 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: we also want to share with you some quick statistics 777 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: on female founders women in podcasting to kind of give 778 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: you some perspective of the landscape that we're entering into 779 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: and why it's so tough and rare, honestly for podcasters 780 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: like us to do what it is that we're doing. Yeah, 781 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 1: so of women founders site lack of access to capital 782 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: as a number one barrier to starting a business. Also, 783 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: women's side, lack of access to a support system, community 784 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: and connections to help them level up as another huge 785 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: barrier to launching a business. And finally, of women's side, 786 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: lack of access to coaches and mentors who have been there, 787 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: done that as a major barrier. And that is very 788 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: true for the podcasting industry specifically. We know that it 789 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 1: is dominated by white men, and while there are women 790 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 1: of color podcasting companies that have launched. There is still 791 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: not enough of them, and we are very excited to 792 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: be joining the amazing list of podcast companies and networks 793 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: that are founded by women. There are quite a few 794 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: in the latin X space, and by quite a few, 795 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean like four, you know, but that's that's amazing 796 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: for the space. Um, and we want more of them. Yeah. 797 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: Of course, there's folks like Mariainosa at Futtle and they've 798 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: been killing the podcasting game. UM. We were excited to 799 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: chat with Julio over at Latino Rebels UM, which started 800 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: out as an indie podcast and they're like ten years 801 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 1: into their podcasting game and they're on a network now 802 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: at food Pluto, which is cool. We also, um, you know, 803 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: like Twilight daying over at Matriarch, another women of color 804 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: indie podcasting production company, and they have a whole slate. 805 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: There's Lorie Martinez at Alcina Studios, like a London Paris 806 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: based UM latin X podcasting company. So the people are 807 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: out there, like it's out the work is out there, 808 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: is being done, and we want to join their ranks, um, 809 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: which and these are peers and so we take lots 810 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: of inspiration from them. We also encourage you to check 811 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: them out to kind of like see the vision and 812 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: what it is that we're aiming to do with our 813 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: little project over here. And yeah, thank you again for 814 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: supporting us. We are working to raise a hundred thousand dollars. 815 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: We hope that you can help. We also have some 816 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: really cool incentives for folks who donate at different cheers. 817 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: We are hooking up with different friends and community members 818 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: who are artists and creatives and business owners themselves, and 819 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: they're donating some gorgeous work. So if you donate, you 820 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 1: will likely also get some local thought emerge and some 821 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: other free art to to go along with your donation. Yeah, 822 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: and we, of course, you know, thank y'all for getting 823 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: us this far and making this work so amazing and 824 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: worth it honestly. Um, and also just want to thank 825 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 1: the mentors and friends that have helped us along the way. 826 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: We mentioned be the Cosmetics at the beginning of the episode, 827 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: and that is so true. They have definitely helped us 828 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: and mentored us and given us amazing advice. Um. Lalla 829 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: Rometo from Belladonna has also been a mentor to us, 830 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: among many of the women that have helped us along 831 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: the way. So just know that we are not alone 832 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: in this, not at all, not at all, So thank you. 833 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: There are so many more people we could think it's 834 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 1: like we're it's like we're accepting a Grammy at this time. 835 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: There's just a lot of people that have helped us 836 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: along the way. Um, to stay true to who we 837 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: are and encourage us. Because when a network is offering 838 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: you money, it's very compelling, it's very enticing, exciting, you know, 839 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: but we want to stay true to who we are. 840 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to say now and that that about 841 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: concludes our hundredth episode. Thank you so much. This was 842 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: a very mediate episode. We had a lot to talk about. 843 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: We love you, We appreciate you. Please donate to our 844 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,959 Speaker 1: crowd funds so yes, I can quit her job, yes, 845 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 1: help me? No, no, but really, um, yeah, thank you 846 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: for supporting us. Um. If you can't share, no, I mean, 847 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: if you can't donate, no worries. Feel free to share 848 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: with your networks, send to your white friends, your friends, 849 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, all of them. There's a cute little video 850 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: that accompanies the crowdfunding campaign, so we're going to be 851 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: sharing that on the Pagram as well. Yeah, and those 852 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: of you. Okay, we know some of our listeners probably 853 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: work in finance and vcs and this that we know 854 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: we have listeners in high places. So if you are 855 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: one of those listeners, just slip the crowd funds to 856 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: somebody whose whose pockets spill it over, you know, if 857 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: you know one of those people, just yeah, if you 858 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: know Mark Cuban sent it to him, you know. All right, everybody, um, 859 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: remember to leave a comment, let us know what you 860 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: thought of this episode, Subscribe, follow share and that's all. 861 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: See those radio radio radio Commi's a myth and bullshit, 862 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: a radio phonic novella. Look at that radio hosted by 863 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: Malamunos and diosa fem