WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Wrapping Up Week 15 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.320 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.640 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:20.000 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:27.320 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.360 It is Tuesday, December nineteenth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.640 number ninety three. Welcome to another edition of The Break 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.800 live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.560 we appreciate you guys taking some time with us and 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.839 know it's a little late in the day for a 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.760 show that usually is at nine thirty in the morning, 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:44.960 but happy to be on with you guys. How is 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:50.280 everybody feeling today? Good? Good? Great? We are gonna be 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.120 You're ready for nine thirty were you? Yeah? We'll here 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.440 waiting for you guys. You sure not nine thirty five? 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.800 We had stuff to do. We did have stuff to do. Actually, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:01.880 I wanted to start the show today talking a little 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.280 bit about a certain player that's back in the building today, 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:09.120 um Ezekiel Elliott returned from his suspension yesterday. Actually was 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.240 in the building for a little while yesterday and today 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.560 is back. I guess full time. We'll be here for 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.320 all the team activities, to day meetings, their run. I 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.199 assume maybe he'll be here for the media session this afternoon. Nick, Um, 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.600 did you get a Chancey? I don't think you got 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.120 a chance to talk to him, did you? No? I 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:27.800 did not know. You didn't get talk with him, But 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.440 you did see him, did see him? Was ready? Look 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.840 to him? Look a little different, look at a little different, 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.520 A little different, I would say, but not too much. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.520 I mean, he's got like a different haircut. Don't know 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.760 what it's called. I'm sure it's called something doing the 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.479 gote thing gotta got it looks a little leaner, does 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.559 m Okay, So those pictures that we saw from Cobbo, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.800 those weren't doctored. I don't I don't know. I guess not. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.000 He didn't show you his apps. No, they'd pull up 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.000 the sheriff for the apps now didn't all right, just 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.320 didn't really stop and talk a whole lot, which was unfortunate. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.520 But um, maybe later we can talk to him. Maybe, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.519 I don't know, maybe see what Rocky says. So let's 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.000 talk though about like what the Cowboys do at this point. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.799 Yesterday give it to him a lot. Well, Jason was 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.560 asked yesterday about like how do they approach this? Do 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.600 you kind of just throw the load at him or 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.960 you kind of ease him in? First of all, I'll 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.280 talk about what Jason said. What did Jason say? WHA 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.760 asked that question about what how they're going to kind 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.240 of work Zeke back into this? He said that they're 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:34.360 gonna make those determinations as the week goes along, meaning 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.600 meaning thirty or twenty seven, Like we don't know. See actually, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.160 you know what, I I doubt that very much. When 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.240 we were talking about that in our cover for production 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:49.119 meeting today is like, I mean, unless it's pouring in Washington, DC, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.160 does Zeke really ever flirt with like thirty touches in 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.720 a game? I mean, they give him the ball, but 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.000 it's not you like the work. And that's that's honestly 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.680 why I don't worry about this, like him in, don't 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.880 make him do too much because typically Zeke probably finishes 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.440 with somewhere between twenty one and twenty six carries in 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.639 a given week, you know, like and you know they 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.239 rotate Alfred Morrison on the third possession of the game. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.200 Maybe rod Smith will get a few more touches now 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.320 because he's had a good stretch here while Zeke has 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.880 been gone. But they don't. He doesn't get He doesn't 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.160 have many of those Levion Bell type of days where 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.240 he has forty touches, which is why I think if 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.280 he's been working out for six weeks in Cabo, I 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.080 think he should be capable of getting twenty two carries. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.840 It doesn't sound out of the scope of realism for me. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.520 It's usually where people work out, right, Yeah, sure, absolutely, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.400 he looks good though he was working out today. I 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.000 think then the plan stuff that Jason Garrett's going to 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.600 figure out. First of all, you know, if you asked 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.520 about Dak versus Cooper rush reps, he probably would say 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.760 that we're going to discuss that this week. So he's 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.560 not gonna give you much anyway. That was what I 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.560 was implying. Yeah, but I think it's probably what we 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.560 do with Alfred Morris now and Rod Smith, and Rod's 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.920 now are third down back? Does he does he continue 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:06.920 to be the third down back even with Zeke? So 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.240 I only I just want to figure it out between 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.480 Alfred and Rod who's taking those reps. You know, whether 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.800 whether you're thinking third down or if you're going to 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.159 do the third possession thing that they love to do 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.560 so much. Figure that out. But like just he's he's 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.479 ready to go, right, he should be. That's I think 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.840 the biggest I think the biggest question will be more 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:32.440 about do you feel confident, confident enough in him that 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.160 he's back that you don't keep that third guy active. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.720 That's where I think there's at least a question of 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.400 what do you do with the third guy? Do you 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.600 need the spot? Maybe you don't even need the spot, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.680 but if you do, then how do you handle that 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.120 From a situation where you know he's bringing Hi back. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.560 It's not because coming back from injury, so you don't 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:48.480 have to feel it I have to feel like you 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.560 have to worry about an injury. But the fact that 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.640 he hasn't played football in six weeks that can be 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.920 something that you at least want to monitor a little bit, right, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.560 If that's something that you think you need to do. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.200 And it's going to depend Tyrn Smith and David Irving 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.240 and Orlando Scandrick and Bryce Butler and all that type 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.760 of stuff. But if you think you need a running 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.400 back to sit to get to where you need to do. Yeah, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.120 I would do it. That's he's been suspended. He hasn't 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.640 been hurt, right, he's been suspended and he's they're certainly 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.839 doing their best to tell you that he's been getting ready. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.000 So if he hasn't been, I don't know why they're 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.679 saying that. So if he's been spending six weeks getting ready, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.000 then he's ready to go give them the ball. Do 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.480 you worry at all about the soft tissue injuries like hamstring, 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:30.800 that kind of stuff when you got a guy who 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.840 hasn't played football. I know he's been working out, but 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.320 do you worry about that kind of stuff when he 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.560 hasn't played NFL football? I mean, I don't. I don't 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.240 know if you worry about it. When it happens, you're saying, well, 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.680 and I'm not surprised, but I think you you know 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.360 he's gonna get just a heavy dose of the carries 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.920 and you know you the good thing is there's no 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.520 there's no holding back. This isn't the time to hold 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.400 anything back. You got to play the best guys that 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.320 you've got, and you know you've been This has been 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.760 a tough hand that has been dealt for them, and 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.680 they dealt with it, you know, And now that's yeah, 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.080 I don't all. I hate to and I'm not making 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.520 light of injuries. And I get all that you want, 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.880 I mean, be careful with guys, be healthy, But everybody 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.800 else out there is dealing with something. I mean, Lyle 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.479 Collins is probably gonna play this game with a bulging disc, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.880 And if Tyrant Smith plays, it'll be because they just 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.960 duct tape him together and sending and you know he 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.720 I mean, if he finds a way out there, that's herculean. 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.320 That's amazing that he's got the pain tolerance to fight 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.640 through everything that's been going on with him. So to 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.320 hold back a fully healthy Ezekiel Elliot because you're worried 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.960 about his hamstring now is not the time. I don't 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.040 think if he can play, he can play. You know, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.720 in the past, we've seen him obviously he's gone through 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:44.080 training camp, not really play much in the preseason, but 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.919 then he gets in during the season and it takes 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.359 him a couple of games to kind of get into 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.479 that rhythm again. So I'm very curious to see how 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.039 long it's gonna take him, even though he's been working 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:58.919 out but still not playing football. Are you guys expecting 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.160 him to? I mean, I expect that is true. He 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.280 hasn't played great his first two games of the of 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:09.960 the of the both seasons now in Seattle, the game 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.080 that Romo got hurt, it was the first time he's 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.280 really ever played, the first time he's ever played, and 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.360 it was limited. But I thought he did a really 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.280 nice job in that game. But you're right, it's it's 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.720 gonna be interesting to see, of course. I'm just I 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.440 feel like everyone is expecting, like, oh my god, he's 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.480 gonna come in and I'm I'm not saying you guys, 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.840 but from other people that I've heard it from us 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.640 kind of like, oh, he's gonna come in here and 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.840 ball out. And my question is just thought, at whatever 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.760 whatever stage you say he is right, is it still 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.760 not better? And this is not a I'm not this 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.320 isn't meant to be a dig at the other guys 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.280 at Alfred and Rod. But the fact is, even with 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.080 him not being at full max capacity, I think he's 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.720 still better back than those two guys, is the way 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.360 I would look at it. So whether he's at like 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.200 completely rolling or not, I still think he has some 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.600 some skill that maybe those two guys don't have. Guys 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.000 agree with that, yes, very much. So even coming in that, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.680 I'm there's something to what you're saying. And I know 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.560 his first two weeks as a rookie were less than amazing. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.600 He ran for a hundred yards against the Giants in 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.240 Week one, like and I mean compared to what he 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.440 can do, maybe that's not great. And I think, yeah, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.280 he kind of got into a swing where he was 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.840 really playing amazing there down the stretch. But he can 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.600 come in and be a one hundred yard rusher. He's 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.240 done it before. He did it against the Giants, which 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:29.760 at the start of the season you thought that was 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.480 a super stout defense. It was. It was workmanlike, it was. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.280 It wasn't amazing. Like I said, Yeah, he does seem 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.360 like he gets better as the weeks go on, But 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.120 I think he's more than capable of coming in cold 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.080 as it were, and being an upgrade over these running backs. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.599 He should be. So let's move Well, let's talk a 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.720 little bit about Tyren Smith. You brought him up, Dave, 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.920 and he left the game this last game with an injury. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.720 He is he's been a guy that's that's obviously very tough. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.280 He plays through injury quite a bit this whole season. 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.320 He hasn't being completely healthy really if you go back 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.160 to last season, like, I don't think he was healthy 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.600 a lot of last season and still played through it. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.680 My question for you guys is more of a big 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.360 picture question. Are you starting to get to a point 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.679 with Tyron where you have to start considering life after Tyron? 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.880 And the reason why I asked that question, I know, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.720 offensive lineman, especially good offensive lineman, which he's proven to 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.680 be really good, they can play into their mid thirties 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.240 and be just as good and sustain it for a 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.680 long time. The fact that he is having back issues though, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.120 and this is a second year in a row when 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.040 he's having back issues, do you think that the Cowboys 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.719 are going to have to start to consider, maybe even 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.160 as soon as this offseason, thinking about what are contingencies 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.800 for the future at left tackle, especially because right now 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.960 I don't think they have really a long term answer 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.040 as a swing tackle. I don't think he can make 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:52.040 it through another full season. Really, I don't, just like 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:57.120 ever again, I really don't think. I mean, he's great, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.760 and yeah, he can take a lot, But I just 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.280 feel like it's getting to that point where I meant 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.880 that Art Warriors might be coming up. Wow. Yeah, I 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:13.640 wouldn't push him there yet. Really twenty seven okay, yeah, 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.840 but does your body carry no? No, there, I mean there, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.800 there's something to that. But and at the end of 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.640 the day, and it's I mean, first of all, it's 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.360 it's so hard to project with injuries, Like I mean, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.600 for the obvious place that I go is I'm like, well, 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.120 he needs to have surgery on something when the season's over. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.240 But like I don't know the specifics of injury. I 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.640 don't know. I don't know if it requires surgery. I 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.640 don't know if it's operable if it does, I don't 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.360 know exactly what needs to be done. So like you 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.040 can say that and be totally wrong. So like I 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.520 don't want to go there, but at the age of 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.959 twenty seven, I have And he's played at such a 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.680 high level, and at the end of the day, he's 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.240 still only missed like five games in his career. Like 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.719 everything that's happened, we'll see if he gets on the 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.839 field against Seattle. It's too early to know that. But 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.439 in light of everything that's happened. He's still only missed it. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.520 It was it two games this year or three? It 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.000 was he missed Atlanta and Philly? Did he miss San 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.280 Diego too? Or La? Sorry? So he missed two, and 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.000 he missed two last year, and he missed one as 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.120 a rookie. But does it not concern you that four 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.439 of those five have happened in the last two seasons? Orse, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:25.079 it's concerning, But I'm not in a point where I'm 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.880 ready to say retire. But let me ask you this, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.120 is it enough? Is it? Because they obviously have to 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.280 address tackle, right, they gotta address that. Is it enough 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.640 to get a really good, solid swing tackle, because then 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.679 that gives you the ability to say, we want to 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.160 continue with the greatness that is Tyrn Smith for as 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.959 long as he can do it, which he still I 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.840 mean he has. His play hasn't dropped off. I don't 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.640 think it's just been some injuries, and specifically the back 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.880 is the one that makes me nervous. But do you 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.959 think having just a good swing tackle protects you enough 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.960 to where you could say, hey, we don't have to 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.520 worry about him for the future. All we gotta do 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.320 just get a good swing tackle. So that if he 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.320 does miss a couple of games every year for the 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:07.000 next five years and fourteen games we get a great 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:11.600 Tyrn Smith, then we're okay, Which goes back to my 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.160 thought that Jonathan Cooper should be a very high priority 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.320 for this team in my opinion, because he's played really well. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.280 I think he's mixing in with this line, and I mean, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.880 it's hard to predict, but I think he could be affordable. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.000 Like I don't think that there's just gonna be this 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.560 a major deal mark kind of thing. And so if 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.480 you don't get that done, then all of a sudden, 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.200 guard is a need on this team too. And you 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.840 probably can't spend a valuable resource on guard and tackle 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.719 in the same draft this year with everything else you need. Right, 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:48.040 so it's sorry, I forget. You've got Lyle Collins who 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.760 they signed to a two year deal, right So another yeah, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.800 and the way he's playing, he's gonna start oneting some 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.640 money too. And you wonder if Tyrant's injury depends on 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.880 how they look at it. Did they look at it like, man, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.120 he's kind of been banged. Ub let's make sure and 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.200 definitely lock up Lyell, Or do you say Tyron's already 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.920 locked up, and you know it's gonna be hard to 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.160 pay him and then also get that swing guy that 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.320 you're talking about. So I don't know, I mean, I 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.679 don't know what what happens here. I was just looking 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.160 at his contract just and first time I've ever done it, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.360 because it's like a Tyron track. Yeah, that contract, like, well, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.640 we'll talk about that in twenty years. I mean, but 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.080 I was just looking at like the cap hit and stuff. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.920 It's not really affordable to do that. It's about you're 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.520 talking about a nineteen million dollar cap hit. Yeah, And 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.600 I wasn't suggesting at all that you make a move 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.840 on Tyrn. I'm saying you have to make a move 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.360 to protect yourself because are you starting to get to 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.160 a point where you think, because it's a back, that 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.600 this is something that might just be just for the 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.079 sake of argument as well. All signed a two year extension, 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.800 so he's under contract for two more seasons, which gives 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.959 you time to not have to worry about It's not 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.679 a lot can change unto you years. So that's and 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.520 that's if it, you know, all things being equal, I 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.679 would love to I mean get tiring right, whatever that 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.400 entails I don't think he needs to retire at the 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.760 age of twenty seven. I love when Amber just kind 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.480 of throws it. I wasn't even thinking that you went 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.280 all the way over there the other way, because some 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.080 people think that you're just made out of iron and 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.360 like you can just keep going at it. I mean, 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.320 I've had my back hurt nowhere near to what these 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.720 guys go through, and I know how much that sucks, 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.920 and I know how tough and how big, and all 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.520 the training they get and all the medical help and 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.680 all that, but there are certain things that you just 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.880 can't make it better. It just keeps deteriorating, absolutely, and 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.880 we don't And that's the thing, Like, that's kind of 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.240 the problem that we don't know enough about his back 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.200 and what the actual condition is to know if this 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:52.760 is something that's a continuing deteriorating thing or just something 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.800 that he's just had bad luck the last two years, 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.360 and it'll with rest, it'll all go away and he'll 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.840 be fine to start back fresh. You know what rhymes 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:07.480 with iron, Tyron Byron. Actually I like Tyron. It's all 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.400 things being equal, I would love to bring Jonathan Cooper 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:15.240 back to this team at a reasonable price, like Nate 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.520 over there, like it all goes back to left guard 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.960 because it goes back to left guards because left guard 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.520 take care of left guard. It frees you up to 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.200 draft a swing tackle. It frees you up to bolster 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.080 that position. You're not you're done with Chaz Green. I'm 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.600 not done with him, but I don't want him to 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.960 be the guy going. I mean, he's under contract for 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.800 one more year. I don't see any reason why you 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.720 need to just cut him. It's not like he's this 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.440 expensive dude, and he can come in and compete and 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.400 maybe get a spot on your line. But it would 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.480 be a mistake to go into twenty eighteen with him 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.760 being your third tackle. And Byron Bells, he's a free 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.880 agent when the year's over, so he might be your 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.760 guard if Cooper goes free agency. I mean, that's not 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.920 the end of the world. I think Cooper's played pretty 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.320 really well, So I don't want to have to draft 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.600 a starting in the draft if I need to bolster 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.000 that tackle spot. And like I said, I don't think 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.520 you can do both. Considering that you need a linebacker 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.040 and a safety, and you might need pass rush help, 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.880 wide receiver, wide receiver and running back, depth, and whatever 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.480 the hell else. So if you're going to spend a 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.200 premium pick on a tackle, you kind of got to 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:20.720 do some other stuff to shore the rest of that up. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.240 I'm starting to think this year, although the Cowboys tend 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.000 to kind of shy away from doing too much in 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.640 free free agency, all the areas where you can pinpoints 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.880 say they could use some help here, it just seems 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.680 like it's gonna be hard to fill all those gaps 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.200 in the draft. Yeah, well, but I mean you can 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.480 do You can help yourself a lot by just signing 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.640 your own. Like I don't think Jonathan Cooper would break 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.080 the bank. I like, I'm just s neither, yeah, and 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.400 I don't think well, I well, I you know, David 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.760 Irving and DeMarcus Lawrence will be expensive. But there are mechanicisms, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.200 Butcher that mechanisms in place, mechanisms, yeah, to help you 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.320 hold onto them, so like you can do it. And 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.520 actually I was looking at it today, I think it's 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.960 Spowtrack has this awesome thing now where like you can 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.240 actually manipulate the roster. You're like, all right, let me 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.400 restructure this guy, let me cut this guy, Like how 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:08.880 does this song so let me ask you this question though, 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.880 But if you take I know, obviously the franchise tag 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.440 becomes an option for Lawrence, but you can't franchise both 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.560 him and and David Irvan Ken, you know, but David 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.760 is restricted. I was just restricted this year, So you 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.680 don't have to worry about really doing a lot with him. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.080 You just put an offer and decide what type of 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.400 tender you want to put on him first, probably first 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.959 or second round. Yeah, and if you lose him, then 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.720 you get some adequate compensation, right, and if more than that, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.840 if nobody matches, then you got him. I think I 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.040 think about this, If you feel really good team signed 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.800 him for and you lost you and you got a 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.920 second round pick, a late second round pick, you can 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.320 be happy about that just because you know. That's why 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.360 I would put a first up. Yeah. Yeah, I think 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.000 I'd prefer to put a first But how much money 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.520 are we talking? Difference? That matters, right, big difference. But 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:58.320 I think that a late first round pick, twenty five, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.480 twenty eight, whatever, for David Irving, I think he'd be 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.840 okay with. Don't you know you're saying if he goes 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.520 to a team that's yeah, and those teams aren't going 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.840 to do that now. Second though, I would for a 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.560 second if I had a late second round pick and 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:12.960 I'm a good football team, but I need some help 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.280 right there, I would, But you know that's the option too, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.920 Like if it's another team that's earlier in the second 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.600 round that does it. Do you feel good about that? 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.359 But again, they're probably not gonna do that, So you 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.920 gotta you gotta put a tender on it. That I mean, 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.920 if you really are okay about losing him. I mean, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.679 he's a unique player that has come on. He just 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.920 keeps getting better. Seems like you can get him back 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.320 on the field. I would not part ways with him, 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.480 but I will say this, he does have even last 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.640 year and last year and this year, he's had spells 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.879 where he just kind of wasn't wasn't on the he 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.280 wasn't getting the sacks that that you wanted from him. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:49.880 Like you'll have some games where it's just like, oh 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.480 my gosh, they can't block David Irving, and then they'll 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.280 have other games it's like did David Irving play? You know? 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.560 So that also has to factor in two when you 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.000 think about how much you want to offer him, right honestly, 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.360 I think they need to get a different scheme in here. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.159 They just I don't really feel like he's a defensive tackle. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.080