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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, December nineteenth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number ninety three. Welcome to another edition of The Break

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys taking some time with us and

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Speaker 1: know it's a little late in the day for a

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Speaker 1: show that usually is at nine thirty in the morning,

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Speaker 1: but happy to be on with you guys. How is

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Speaker 1: everybody feeling today? Good? Good? Great? We are gonna be

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Speaker 1: You're ready for nine thirty were you? Yeah? We'll here

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Speaker 1: waiting for you guys. You sure not nine thirty five?

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Speaker 1: We had stuff to do. We did have stuff to do. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start the show today talking a little

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Speaker 1: bit about a certain player that's back in the building today,

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Speaker 1: um Ezekiel Elliott returned from his suspension yesterday. Actually was

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Speaker 1: in the building for a little while yesterday and today

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Speaker 1: is back. I guess full time. We'll be here for

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Speaker 1: all the team activities, to day meetings, their run. I

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Speaker 1: assume maybe he'll be here for the media session this afternoon. Nick, Um,

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Speaker 1: did you get a Chancey? I don't think you got

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Speaker 1: did not know. You didn't get talk with him, But

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Speaker 1: you did see him, did see him? Was ready? Look

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Speaker 1: to him? Look a little different, look at a little different,

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Speaker 1: A little different, I would say, but not too much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got like a different haircut. Don't know

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Speaker 1: gote thing gotta got it looks a little leaner, does

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Speaker 1: m Okay, So those pictures that we saw from Cobbo,

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Speaker 1: those weren't doctored. I don't I don't know. I guess not.

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Speaker 1: He didn't show you his apps. No, they'd pull up

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Speaker 1: the sheriff for the apps now didn't all right, just

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Speaker 1: didn't really stop and talk a whole lot, which was unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: But um, maybe later we can talk to him. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe see what Rocky says. So let's

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Speaker 1: talk though about like what the Cowboys do at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday give it to him a lot. Well, Jason was

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Speaker 1: asked yesterday about like how do they approach this? Do

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Speaker 1: you kind of ease him in? First of all, I'll

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Speaker 1: talk about what Jason said. What did Jason say? WHA

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Speaker 1: asked that question about what how they're going to kind

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Speaker 1: of work Zeke back into this? He said that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna make those determinations as the week goes along, meaning

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Speaker 1: meaning thirty or twenty seven, Like we don't know. See actually,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I I doubt that very much. When

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Speaker 1: does Zeke really ever flirt with like thirty touches in

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Speaker 1: it's not you like the work. And that's that's honestly

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Speaker 1: Maybe rod Smith will get a few more touches now

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Speaker 1: because he's had a good stretch here while Zeke has

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Speaker 1: From a situation where you know he's bringing Hi back.

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Speaker 1: with Tyron where you have to start considering life after Tyron?

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Speaker 1: You could play in there. Right, They're kind of small

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Speaker 1: for three four inside linebackers. Don't you think think Jayalen

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Speaker 1: Smith actually could be an outside baby linebacker? I really do.

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Speaker 1: And I would put hitch to Lee in there. I

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Speaker 1: think he got Crawford definitely defensive, is a defensive ending.

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Speaker 1: He's probably better there than than an outside force three.

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Speaker 1: I would agree Leek, I don't know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you do with him. Probably probably

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Speaker 1: have to play. I mean David or David Irvan would

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Speaker 1: be an end. He would be an end, but he

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Speaker 1: could play nose too if he bulked up. Maybe, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't That sounds like a nightmare to me,

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Speaker 1: trying to flift this personnel to change. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's take our first break. We come back. I want

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Speaker 1: edition of the Break Back to the Break. There there

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Speaker 1: going to have a wedgie. Have you ever experienced that

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Speaker 1: been reading those all year and I don't remember that.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing If you suffer a wedgie in

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Speaker 1: your deme. That's an interesting way to put it, to

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Speaker 1: suffer a wedge, Well, it is like there's damages. It's

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Speaker 1: from Tommy Johns Daniel. Can I help you? Yeah, suffering

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Speaker 1: at a wedgie? And what do I do? You know

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Speaker 1: how your skin kind of burns a little bit. I'm

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Speaker 1: a move on. Yeah, bad weggie, Like that's a really

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Speaker 1: bad wedgie. Forward slash Cowboys slash no Wedgies. I did

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Speaker 1: talking last week and they just did the read and

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Speaker 1: that was it zing And that's why our ratings are better.

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Speaker 1: We get hung up on their wedd to talk for

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Speaker 1: like five minutes a day. Kurt Daniels was reading it

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Speaker 1: for the Hanging with the Boys and it was just

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Speaker 1: disgre was it? And then they're what you would get

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Speaker 1: another guy to do our read? Is it our read guy? Perhaps?

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Speaker 1: Maybe fine with passing that over all? Right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the big picture here. Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: still alive in the playoffs. They get their third straight

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Speaker 1: win last week and now need to win out. They

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Speaker 1: need two more wins and need a couple other things

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Speaker 1: that happen their way. I thought for a second there

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Speaker 1: last night that possibly the gods would smile on them

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Speaker 1: and Atlanta would actually take a loss, which would have

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Speaker 1: gone a long way toward helping the Cowboys. But thanks

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Speaker 1: a lot Chubby Raff and Tampa. Yeah, guy drop the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't drop that, if he doesn't fall on

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Speaker 1: his face trying to set the ball up. What happens,

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Speaker 1: Jamis probably moves him eight to ten yards closer. And

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm not saying it's his fault, but my guy

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Speaker 1: had to kick from fifty five and it's possible. Or

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe Jamis throws it to a guy who

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Speaker 1: can't get out of bout That's kind of what I

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Speaker 1: was thinking. Or maybe he throws it to the other teams.

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Speaker 1: You know what. That didn't happen, so I can complain

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Speaker 1: about it to Mike Evans, who goes up and gets

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Speaker 1: the ball, And does he get an opium not in

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Speaker 1: this case, you gotta those, But cowboys don't get that

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Speaker 1: help from the Atlanta Falcon. So here's what's kind of

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Speaker 1: left in front of the Cowboys. Of course, they have

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Speaker 1: to win out if they have any sights on the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but they also need at this point Detroit to lose

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Speaker 1: a game. Detroit now has to play Cincinnati this week

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Speaker 1: at Cincinnati, and then they'll finish the season against Green

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Speaker 1: Bay at home. Don't know if it'll be with Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers or without. I think that to me is very

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Speaker 1: likely not because it winning last night eliminated, right, So

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Speaker 1: we'll see what green Bay does. They may also be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's missed most of the season. We want to play him,

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Speaker 1: he wants to play, We're gonna play right anyway. That'll

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Speaker 1: be what's in front of the Detroit Lions. Cowboys need

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Speaker 1: them to lose once and then they need one of

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Speaker 1: these NFC NFC South teams, whether that be Carolina, New

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Speaker 1: Orleans or Atlanta, one of those teams has to lose out.

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Speaker 1: They got to lose both games here. That sounds like

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Speaker 1: a daunting task, But when you start looking at how

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Speaker 1: they all play each other. New Orleans and Atlanta played

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Carolina and Atlanta finished the season against one another,

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Speaker 1: there's at least some possibility that this could line up

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys as they wanted to its New Orleans

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Speaker 1: if they lose two or they are also out. I

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Speaker 1: mean from this, okay, so basic. Any one of them

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Speaker 1: lose toser of this next game between the Saints and

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Speaker 1: the Falcons has to lose again. That's exactly it. That's

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Speaker 1: really the lynch pin is if you just assume at

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Speaker 1: this point, if you assume at this point because Carolina

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Speaker 1: won last week against Green Bay, at this point you

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Speaker 1: can just say, hey, keep winning like or if they

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Speaker 1: happen to lose this week, it sets up a really

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Speaker 1: nice scenario because if they lose and Atlanta loose, then

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Speaker 1: you know one of them has to take a second

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Speaker 1: loss in the final week of the season. When they

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Speaker 1: played Carolina play this week, Carolina will play Tampa Bay. Hey,

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Speaker 1: they pushed Atlanta into the brink last night. I think

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Speaker 1: Carolina is a better team though, I think than Carolina. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's at Carolina, correct, Yeah, So that that to me

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Speaker 1: seems like the less likely scenario. I think the harder

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Speaker 1: part here is trying to see number one, can Atlanta Loo?

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Speaker 1: Can you get New Orleans to win, which I think

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Speaker 1: you can at home? And then it sets up a

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Speaker 1: scenario where Atlanta has to be Carolina. Who do the

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Speaker 1: Saints play in the last game? New Orleans will be

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Speaker 1: playing Tampa Bay. So Tampa Bay is the last few

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Speaker 1: games the season. Tampa Bay's gotta win one the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: three straight weeks and right the holes it's with the

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Speaker 1: they set it up odd I mean, I know the

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Speaker 1: NFL favors Division games to end the season, but they

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Speaker 1: did a whole South round robin in the last three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Like that's they're all. I kind of like, I wish

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Speaker 1: they would do that more in all the division a

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Speaker 1: little bit. That's what we want to do. We want

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Speaker 1: to go to New New York and then Philly and

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Speaker 1: then Washed Yes, all in December. Absolutely, that would be fun.

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Speaker 1: It's I don't know, it's it's annoying right now, especially

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Speaker 1: because one of those teams gets Tampa every single week

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Speaker 1: of the year. But yeah, right, the odds are not good.

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Speaker 1: But it's I mean, and I mean, then you're right,

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Speaker 1: the NFC South thing sounds easier to me, Like that's

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Speaker 1: not the problem. The problem is that a pretty good

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Speaker 1: Detroit team with a very good quarterback is faced with whatever,

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Speaker 1: I mean, better than most better than I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Nick. I agree with you. You're playing

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Speaker 1: You're playing a Yeah, he's yeah, he's good either whatever,

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Speaker 1: even if you only think he's eye. He's playing a

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Speaker 1: Bengals team that does not appear to have any interest

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Speaker 1: in playing any more football, especially now that the reports

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Speaker 1: out that their coaches. Yeah, that's exactly why they're gonna

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Speaker 1: play inspired football. They're going to win that game. Where

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Speaker 1: is it? I don't know if they think that he's

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Speaker 1: leaving one more like it's definitely, it's definitely possible. But

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Speaker 1: you look at it, I mean, like it's funny because

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Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, I was like, ah, Detroit, Like

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Speaker 1: you can't count on Detroit. I'm not worried about them,

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Speaker 1: but that Bengals team has looked atrocious ever since they

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Speaker 1: lost to the Steelers. And then I would be shocked

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Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers plays that game, which I believe is

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Speaker 1: at Ford Field to end the season. So I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, anything's possible, don't get me wrong, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff has to line up the right way.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's gonna come down the Cowboys I think

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Speaker 1: will beat Seattle. I really do it. And it'll be

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Speaker 1: a tough game, but I think that they will win.

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Speaker 1: It'll come down to the Sunday game, the last game

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Speaker 1: of the season, and they have three things that have

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Speaker 1: to happen. They have to win against the Eagles, Detroit

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Speaker 1: will have to lose to Green Bay, and whoever lost

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Speaker 1: that game between Atlanta and Carolina, probably Atlanta are the Samets.

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Speaker 1: It'll probably be Atlanta. Atlanta will have to lose to Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Like that's what's gonna come down to, like three things

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Speaker 1: gotta happen for you, which and I personally think two

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Speaker 1: of those things will happen. I'm with Dave. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Detroit, I don't think Rogers play. I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: the wrong audience, but this sounds really familiar. So like

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Speaker 1: in in UM, in FIFA, in international soccer, they purposefully

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Speaker 1: set up these elimination rounds to start and end at

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Speaker 1: the same time, so that like you don't one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent know what's going so like you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: scoreboard watch, you just have to play your game. I

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Speaker 1: could easily see that being something in week seventeen where

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Speaker 1: the same time, and like, you know, all crap, the

639
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Lions are down ten, but the Cowboys are down to

640
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: it like it could be, And I honest, honestly believe

641
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep all those games at noon and I

642
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: think they're gonna probably flex the Carolina Atlanta game or

643
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: something like that, that that will be the kind of

644
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: game that you want to have last because you don't

645
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: because that's going to dictate everything else, right, So I

646
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: think they're gonna make that the last goals at four

647
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: thirty East you go, and then you're sitting there watching

648
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: like because if you're not, that's the best way. I'm

649
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: talking about fans. I'm talking about fans. If you're looking

650
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: at ratings, you're saying, give me the game that's gonna

651
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: determine everything at the end of the night, so that

652
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I could see the game early. I know if my

653
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: team has a shot, and then I'm watching that game

654
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: from a Cowboys see what happened? Can you imagine? Because

655
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: they don't give us Wi Fi on these flights for

656
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: those of y'all at home, so I don't know that

657
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: we wouldn't land, but you imagine firing up your phone

658
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: when you get back to Dallas, just like well, we

659
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs are not like that sounds for good.

660
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Oh we got Wildfire's one guy that walks around that

661
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: tells everybody this stuff. I don't know if he's talking

662
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: to the captain or I don't know what's happening, will

663
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: be good. We got wil walks around and he'll be like,

664
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: it'll just it'll just be like a wildfire black the play.

665
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: But but but if we're still aunt know, and it really

666
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter because we'd be back before that night game's over. Yeah,

667
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: they flexed to the night. They flex Dallas. There's no way.

668
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: What do you mean, no way, There's definitely a way.

669
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 1: The only way they I think the only way they

670
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: flex Dallas is if you get into a situation where

671
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, the scenario we talked about earlier day where

672
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: we all laughed, where basically all four of those things

673
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: you need to happen this weekend happen to where you're

674
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: playing to get in, then they flex Dallas. If all

675
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: you gotta do is win and get in next weekend,

676
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: they will flex Dallas. If it's not that, then again,

677
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I think they want the game that decides every because

678
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: it could end up if they flex Dallas and they

679
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: still need all these other things that happen. Let's say

680
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: earlier today, all those things don't happen. Now you got

681
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: a night game that nobody really cares about because it's meaningless.

682
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Don't write off team trying to get into the playoffs.

683
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: They're fiercest, right of all trying to keep them out.

684
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: Not only not only that, but Philly hasn't locked up

685
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: home field either, So you could be playing a game

686
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: where the Eagles are trying to get the one seed

687
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are trying to get into the playoffs.

688
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: I still think Carolina Atlanta is a more compelling game,

689
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: but if you give those two fan bases reason to watch,

690
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: the ratings could yes, but that could all be done

691
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: by the time you get to the games. What I'm saying, yeah,

692
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: that's a good point. You just don't know, like you

693
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: want the game at the end of night to be

694
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: the one that decides everything else, because then everybody has

695
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: you know. You know what I can't wait and it'll

696
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: happen next week is when we get to the point

697
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: we're we're moving on from that and now we're starting

698
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: to figure out who do you want to face and

699
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: others you can say, who do you want to draft? No,

700
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: so you're like you're just all in. You're like on

701
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: this train's got no breaks. You're just like, yeah, who

702
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: do we want to say? Didn't you say that a

703
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, you were like, they're getting in

704
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs if they go ten and six, if they

705
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: go from five and six to ten and six, they're

706
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: getting in. What are you gonna do if they don't

707
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: sit here and say I was wrong for the first

708
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: time his offseason? What do you think I mean? I

709
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: just the league is set up, and go go find

710
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of ten and six teams that didn't get in.

711
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: They exists. It happens there will be a ten and

712
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: sixteen this season. I think that don't game. It might

713
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: be Dallas, and then they'll go back and you'll pinpoint

714
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: that one game that they could they should have won,

715
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: and it'll probably be Packers Packers because the Packers is

716
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: that loss is the reason you're gonna be out. If

717
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: you go ten and six, you lose the tiebreaker to Detroit.

718
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: The only reason Detroit wins the tiebreakers because they've beaten

719
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: the Packers and you didn't. Honestly, I know we've talked

720
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: like we've set that all season. The game I still

721
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: look back at and say, is is Denver? And not

722
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: because the game was so close, but because there's no

723
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: there's nothing that to me suggests the Cowboys should have

724
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: gone up there and gotten their butts looked like they did.

725
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: That team is not that good, you know What's we

726
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: all have a different opinion here, because actually, even as

727
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: close as the Rams and Packers games were the one

728
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: that I want back as Atlanta because it's it's I

729
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: can't wrap my brain around this, it's so crazy. Just

730
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: swap them, give them a loss to Oakland and a

731
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: win against Atlanta, exact same record. They're in such a

732
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: better spot. You're right, They've got one more conference win,

733
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: they've got a head to head win against a team

734
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: that's in the playoff race. And I don't know this

735
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: for sure, but if they had a win against Atlanta

736
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: and they were eight and six right now, I think

737
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: all they'd have to do is win out. I think, yeah,

738
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: I think, well, no, yeah, because they would have the

739
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: head to head, would have Detroit because yeah, right, that

740
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would like that. I would like that

741
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: Atlanta win back. Well, you know, but that one had

742
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: no chance. I mean, maybe Chip, maybe Chip Adrian Clayborne.

743
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: But let's let's less like this approach. Though. If you

744
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: take all those teams that we just mentioned and you say, okay,

745
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys will played that exact same team with

746
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: the exact same personnel, both teams have the exact same personnel,

747
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: and they played it ten times, how many which of

748
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: those teams you think the Cowboys would have gotten the

749
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: best of most of the times. That's why I say

750
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Denver that was a missed opportunity because I think if

751
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played Denver ten times, I think they would

752
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: have won at it differently more than half of the time.

753
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I look at different How many plays need to go

754
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: differently to beat the Broncos that day? I would say

755
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: how many plays against against the Packers? Like Dave harped

756
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: on it forever, if you don't throw the ball there? Yeah,

757
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: but that quarterback, that quarterback as we've seen before, Oh,

758
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: it takes his one like it doesn't matter. He's so good.

759
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: He would have even when you play a really good game,

760
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: it just takes him making one play and they win

761
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: the ball game. I mean they wouldn't have had They

762
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had time. They wouldn't have had time to

763
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: beat you. They might have had time to tie you,

764
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: but they didn't have time to beat you. And then

765
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: they tie you and take you over. Time take your

766
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: chances and even going toe to toe with him. I

767
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: don't know whatever what could have been, man. But you know, okay,

768
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: I always say this when we're talking about like they

769
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: should this and this game of this loss in this lost,

770
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: it always flips around. The weird part is is that

771
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: you typically don't have a team that's eight and six

772
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: that's only had one close win all year. That's shocking

773
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: every This was the first time they had won a

774
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: game less than double digits. That's weird. Maybe that an

775
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: average football team is either you're either winning by a

776
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: comfortable margin or not. I would and I said this

777
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: to you when you brought that up, like I'll throw

778
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: at Washington in there. I mean that's a little bit

779
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: of I mean they were up six in crunch time

780
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: and then they get a pick six to make it

781
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: look could you watch that game like that game felt

782
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: like a thirteen point game. I mean, Washington just scored

783
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: late to kind of get it to that point. I

784
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: was watching like I was watching that like, oh no,

785
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: like this could be troublesome here when I mean when

786
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: that drive started, I'm like, yeah, you never know. I

787
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know why. Weird I

788
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: wasn't that worried about that, even though they were they

789
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: had the ball, and they had the ball with a

790
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: chance to go win the game. I get they were

791
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: up seven because Washington missed the extra point, but Washington

792
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: was still in position to tie the game with less

793
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: than four. And I think I was with you, Dave.

794
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: I think I was a little bit still worried, like

795
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how to Byron Jones sealed the game,

796
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: sure did, so. Talk about your boy Jeff Heath after

797
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: that game, Like, there were a lot of little moments

798
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: from that game where I thought Jeff Heath played well

799
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: and that you know, that's one thing you always say

800
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: this Nick, Like, he's a guy that is a playmaker.

801
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: He will make some plays for you, he will make

802
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: some plays for the other team, but he is a

803
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a playmaking safety. I mean,

804
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: most of his career he's had like these moments where

805
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: he makes these plays. There are some moments that are

806
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: bad too, But I actually think I prefer that to

807
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: a guy like Byron where you don't really get the plays,

808
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: the big plays that kind of change games. Right at

809
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: four plays in his career where he's looked really bad.

810
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is, this is I could be missing

811
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: some but the ones that everyone talks about. He did

812
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: not out jump Calvin Johnson for the ball. He's not

813
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: that Okay, he did not outjump Jimmy Graham for the ball.

814
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: He's not the first. He got carried into the end

815
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: zone pretty much by Adrian Peterson. He's not the first.

816
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: And he didn't make an open field tackle against Todd Gurley.

817
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: He's won't the first or last there. He he has

818
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: had some plays, like a lot of safeties due which

819
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: what are those of those four what are the first

820
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: three have in common? They're all beast mode players and

821
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: they're all from his rookie kie. Yeah, those three except

822
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: for the girly. No, and that's three. And I'm not

823
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to convince anybody Jeff Heaths and all pro.

824
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: But give him his due, YEA, give him his due

825
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: like he's earned it. I mean, and you're right, he's

826
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: he's got a nose for the football. I I I

827
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: think you. And that's the thing that always annoys me,

828
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: like everything's got to be black or white, like all

829
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: this or all that, Like Jeff Heath can be an

830
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: underrated player with a nose for the ball and you

831
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: can still not feel great about the Cowboys safety position.

832
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: Like you can feel both of those ways. It doesn't

833
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: have to be either or you know. All right, we

834
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys join us. We got in the show

835
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Speaker 1: a little early today. We're back at our normal time tomorrow,

836
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: nine thirty am Central. We'll have more Cowboys talk for you.

837
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Speaker 1: We'll get into a little talk on the Seahawks till

838
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: then for Nick, even Dave, hellmant amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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