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Speaker 1: All right, here we go Boutlet Cat Podcast. We got

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Speaker 1: a special guest in here. My guy Forah is in

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Speaker 1: the building. Man, thank you for having me. New album,

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Speaker 1: Butterfly Effect YEP is out right now. Yes, sir, why

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Speaker 1: that name because obviously we know the movie, Yeah, some

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Speaker 1: of us might know the movie dark movie movie. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like kind of in the dust shill,

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Speaker 1: like everything happens for a reason, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: things happened in my life where I felt like I

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Speaker 1: wanted this, I wanted that, and I didn't get those things.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I kind of accepted,

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Speaker 1: like kind of like accepting fate, manifest destiny kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: and you know, everything kind of just works the way

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to. And I don't feel like I'll be

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Speaker 1: here right now if all those good and bad things

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. When you say you wanted certain things, are

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Speaker 1: you talking about like industry type success, industry life, you know, success,

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Speaker 1: whether it's success, love, family, things, financial, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: You know we all want those things, but sometimes we

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Speaker 1: don't get them. Well, listen, man, I got to give

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Speaker 1: your flowers because I know you like have kind of

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Speaker 1: been through the ringer in the music industry. You've obviously

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Speaker 1: been on major labels, You've had a career that's spanned

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Speaker 1: over that decade now. But like, dude, you fucking are lit. Bro.

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Speaker 1: It's fun. I'm having fun with it, man, It's it's

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Speaker 1: a fun job. I don't know if you still have

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Speaker 1: your store on Fairfax do you nah? Just okay? But

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Speaker 1: you had okay, you had that store for a very

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Speaker 1: long time. On facts right, it was fun. Most of

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Speaker 1: these rappers couldn't sell a fucking concert tationic let alone

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Speaker 1: have a successful clothing line that has a brick and

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Speaker 1: mortar store on one of the most expensive streets in

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Speaker 1: fucking America. Yeah, it's stressful, man, it's it's a stressful

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Speaker 1: thing to maintain big deal while maintaining a you know,

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Speaker 1: music career, a brand career, a business, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, all those type of things. It's stressful. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I just have fun with it and I

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Speaker 1: just kind of you know, literally the album you put out,

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Speaker 1: was it in twenty twenty, your last album? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would love to you did some crazy numbers man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fun that phone with it, Independent, Independent, Klin and Jane

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Speaker 1: and shout Out to the Hemmies. Hey, all the fucking

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Speaker 1: I hate I understand that. Like it's easy to like

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Speaker 1: compare yourself to other people with your peers or people

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Speaker 1: who you feel like, oh man, I see them on

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Speaker 1: you know, performing at award shows. That should fuck all that, bro,

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Speaker 1: Like you've done a lot of and those are the

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Speaker 1: things I'm talking about, Like I want those, you know,

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Speaker 1: award shows. I want to be at the Grammys here

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Speaker 1: and be it you know this and that. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, like I'm kind of just accepting of

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Speaker 1: and grateful mostly of what I have and what's been

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Speaker 1: given to me and what I worked for. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like not everybody has a fair chance, and

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Speaker 1: some people have advantages. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you just kind of find you have to find what's

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Speaker 1: you know, what you're grateful for. When you're a hardcore

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Speaker 1: fan base and a lot of people would die for

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Speaker 1: that shit, dog, yeah, Like sometimes you got to like

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Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for it for real, because I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be I wouldn't be here still ten years plus after.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got some like talk weird fans too, Yeah, crazy,

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Speaker 1: I feel like those are the best ones, most of

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Speaker 1: the women who I've come in contact with who are

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Speaker 1: Big Four fans are psychos. Yeah, been through. The thing

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Speaker 1: is they've been through a lot of they're like crazy bitches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah sure, Yeah, I've been through it, been through a

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Speaker 1: lot of ships, been through my personal experience, like you

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Speaker 1: have love for you, like you had a personal experience,

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Speaker 1: you had a you had a she set some clothes

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Speaker 1: I feel like we all kind of been through that

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Speaker 1: for sure. For sure, you might have an extra crazy

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Speaker 1: one though. I just I'm not even women I've necessarily

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh yeah, yeah, you got like my

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Speaker 1: they might these people, these people like they might need

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Speaker 1: form and change their life. I've seen it happen too.

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Speaker 1: I've seen someone's life and personality be changed in one day.

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. Man. How have you been dealing

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Speaker 1: with because you know, I feel like you do live

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Speaker 1: your life outward online sometimes, right. You know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like we've kind of seen you go through like public,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe some of your previous relationships. Just you

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Speaker 1: we've seen it. How are you doing today? That's a

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Speaker 1: good question. Uh. Today, I'm still like the same person.

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Speaker 1: I'm still kind of the same person, but I'm just less.

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Speaker 1: everything just because I don't feel like it makes anything better.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why I try to be open on

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Speaker 1: social media is because there's a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there going through the same shit. You know, we're all human.

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Speaker 1: You could be you get out of ten million followers,

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars, like, life's still gonna hit you. You You

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Speaker 1: can't get away from life. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, I feel like I feel like I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a different way. Now now that I'm getting older, I

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Speaker 1: with myself, but I still try to be open. You know,

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Speaker 1: have you got a therapy? I have done to therapy?

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Speaker 1: Was it helpful? No? It wasn't. No. How many times

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Speaker 1: did you go though? I've been to three different therapists,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I need to find the right one's that's

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Speaker 1: what they say. But I don't know, man, I feel

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Speaker 1: I know it's supposed to be like a judge free

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Speaker 1: not sure. Maybe I need to you know what you need?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I need. You need a hero's

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Speaker 1: dose of mushrooms, that is, that's the truth. Yeah, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: lady go to fucking Costa Rica. Yeah, do some fucking ayahuasca.

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Speaker 1: But but here's the crazy thing. Here's a crazy thing. Serious.

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Speaker 1: I know, I hear you and i' and I've heard

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Speaker 1: that and I've been told that. But I love life, bro. No,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna love life more. No, listen, bro, I promise

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Speaker 1: you it's not I'm not telling you something like in

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Speaker 1: least once all the time. Yeah. Here's the thing with me, though,

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Speaker 1: he's an amazing football player. And I mean he's always

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Speaker 1: kills your ego. It kind of like, yeah, you should

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Speaker 1: What I like? I like the balance between between happy

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Speaker 1: an understanding of why you're Like there's probably a lot

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Speaker 1: a psychopath, right, Okay, great guy though I love him.

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Speaker 1: But he did ayahuasca and he hasn't touched drugs. He

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Speaker 1: fucking Wow, he's like professionally doing better than he's ever done.

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Speaker 1: Like ayahuasca. So what's the ayahuasca. It's like a it's

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Speaker 1: root that is DMT based, but it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: but it's a slower version of DMC. Like have you

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Speaker 1: it hasn't worked for? Nobody? I know, no one that

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Speaker 1: so like they go to Costa Rica three times a

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Speaker 1: know what, all that fucking all the therapy shit is

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Speaker 1: cool and it's helpful. I think everbody should go therapy,

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Speaker 1: talk to somebody. But like the medicine that they try

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Speaker 1: to put you on some bullshit like medication. All this

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Speaker 1: is some fun shit like do some mushrooms, bro, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is that natural kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: talking to someone who kind of understands or is willing

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Speaker 1: to listen even if they don't understand. Yes. But the

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Speaker 1: other thing is is you're in a position where a

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Speaker 1: lot of people you probably talk to do they depend

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Speaker 1: some people are willing to, you know, kind of step

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Speaker 1: no for sure? Man. So this album? What would you

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Speaker 1: describe this album as just in terms of like the motivation,

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Speaker 1: the message? Yeah, you're at I think it's I think

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Speaker 1: it's just a new me. I took a two year

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Speaker 1: it's bad. You call the cops, cops come and they're

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00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: just like oh and cops leave. You're like, damn, she's

421
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: still here here? Then what do you do? You know?

422
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: And it's just like you gotta get a what's that

423
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: thing called order of protection? Man? But what order of protection?

424
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: It's like where they can't restrain in order. Yeah. I

425
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 1: don't even know the person's name or who they are

426
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: or anything about them. And I'm like, we're all scared

427
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 1: to go down there. We don't know if she's there

428
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: with the knife or anything. That's fucking crazy. You can't

429
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 1: even sleep, you're outside the window. Yes, crazy, it's crazy.

430
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: Would you say because you have had some You've had

431
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: some pretty crazy like brushes with almost losing your life

432
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: over the years, MANE was it last year that someone

433
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: tried to shoot at you were going to Vegas? I

434
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: think it was like last year, two years ago. Yeah,

435
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: and then something like that also kind of happened in

436
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: like twenty fifteen, twenty fifteen. Yeah, I got I got shot,

437
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: got object. Yeah. I mean, you've had some serious brushes

438
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: with death. LA is crazy though, it's fucked for sure,

439
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: it's only getting worse. But do you like when that

440
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: has happened to you. I had a similar situation. I

441
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: didn't have anyone try to kill me almost kill my

442
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: fucking cell phone. Not not on purpose, but uh yes,

443
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: it like shook me. Man. I'm like, damn, I could

444
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: have fucking like literally died. Like, yeah, you know, I've

445
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of experiences with that. One thing

446
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: I kind of learned is like riding around with you know,

447
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: in the lambos and three corvettes following behind you and

448
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: riding around in these cars and just being kind of loud.

449
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: It's not really like the smartest thing to do or

450
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: the safest thing to do, you know. And I used

451
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: to roll around like that a lot, but these days

452
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like more, I'm just smarter about it.

453
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't really like the all the crazy, loud, bright

454
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: color cars. You seem to be like a pretty peaceful guy. Yeah,

455
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: I could get wild at times, No, but I just

456
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: mean in terms of like you put a lot of

457
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: positive energy into the world. Ye. Your music is like

458
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: it's not very negative. It's not like you're talking like

459
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of crazy, but I like to have fun though.

460
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: You do like to have fun a lot of fun.

461
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: You do like to have fun sometimes on Instagram life. Yeah,

462
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: sometimes your ig lives fucking starts up, bro, you know.

463
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: But you know, I just the older I get, the

464
00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: more I realize, like, Okay, I gotta move smart because

465
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: and I've learned from a lot in the past, but

466
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: now I'm just like, Okay, if we go somewhere, if

467
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: we do something, we have to be strategic and militant,

468
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: and you know, moved the right way, especially with what's

469
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: going on, you know, these days, it's just it's fucked

470
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: right now, It's fuck it's too crazy, yeah, because LA's

471
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: kind of always had that element, right, But it's like,

472
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: I feel like the ed D thing was so strong

473
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: here compared to everywhere else. Yea, I had I had

474
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: friends that were coming here from out of town, yeah,

475
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: to like commit edd fraud and they didn't get it

476
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: from here, but they were just getting money money. Yeah,

477
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about that too. And I

478
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: think people are just getting away with shit out here

479
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: and they're just like fuck, like not fearing the consequences

480
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: and not knowing, like what's what's going to come back?

481
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: So people are just down to do whatever they were

482
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: just like you could find like a homeless guy and

483
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: just paying for his social and his information and then

484
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: collect I fuck I home. He's hitting the ATM for

485
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: like five or six grand every Friday. Just mask yes

486
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: and that's it and that's it. And it was so easy.

487
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck is going on? Bro,

488
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: They're trying to convince me to do it. I thought

489
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, wow, I'm like, yo, y'all are

490
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: getting away with this ship. I'm like what But what

491
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: I feel this is fucked. I feel I've never seen

492
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: that ship happened. Like, I've never seen people get money

493
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: so easily in my life. So it was like scary.

494
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: It's almost like the Bitcoin thing, where's like it might

495
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: be a little fucked eventually, Like but what I fear

496
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: is karma though, because it always comes back, you know. Yeah,

497
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: So I was. I thought about it. So I'm like,

498
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: damn that comes it comes back to federal prison. Federal

499
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: prison is how it comes back for you. Oh yeah,

500
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: everyone's going to prison right now for sure, especially with

501
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: the VPS. Oh my god. Oh man. There was a

502
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: guy later you're going to jail. There's a huge company,

503
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: huge company, one might venture. We might be wearing some

504
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: of this brand in this room right now. They're in

505
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: Orange County, Okay, the owner imagine starting a business that's

506
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: fake and then so you not to put if I

507
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: say too much. This motherfucker did all this ship and

508
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: then got a fucking he started a whole new business

509
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: just to fucking get a PPP own with pretty much

510
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: fake employees, made everyone work like one hour, and then

511
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: bought a fucking private jet. Crazy, And now the Alphabet

512
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: boys are on their ass and it's like, Bro, what'd

513
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: you think was gonna yeah? Done? What did you think

514
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: was gonna happen? Yeah? This is I mean, especially you

515
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: do it on a big level like that, they're gonna

516
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: find you. I think that that that that that is

517
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: also a big attribution ast to why like LA's kind

518
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: of gotten a little more crazier because like people got

519
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of taste of that, you know, and

520
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: they want and they want it and they want more.

521
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: So it's like, are you pretty like uh careful about

522
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: like not like if you're gonna go out to eat

523
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: or something, not posting or like I mean even like

524
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: bars leaving the story at home. Oh yeah, well when

525
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: I go anytime I go out anywhere that's not like

526
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: down the street or if like I'm in a public

527
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: situation like this is a private situation, so yeah, a podcast.

528
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: But if I go out to eat food, like I'm

529
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: wearing shorts like dirty shoes in a hoodie and like nothing, no, no, nothing,

530
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, no one's gonna look twice at

531
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: me because I'm just like I have nothing for you, bro,

532
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but you can also always I'm trying

533
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: to push this narrative to rappers and start rocking fake jewelry. Yeah,

534
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: who gives a fuck? Yeah, who's gonna question I've had

535
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: my share of. You know, if you're a little baby

536
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: and you have a fake like fucking Rolex besides fake watchbuster,

537
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna call you out for sure. Yeah, but who's

538
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: gonna question you? Fuck? That's what no one, no one,

539
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: no one could walk up to a little baby with

540
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: a diamond testing. I'm like, funk off, bro, Yeah like

541
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: what he don't even got to say. He got his security,

542
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: he got his people, yo back up? Yeah you know

543
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: do you? Yeah? I mean, not a bad idea when

544
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: you first got into the game, did you do the

545
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: fake jewels? Of course, just because, And it's less about like, oh,

546
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: fake dreelry, but more like people kind of give you,

547
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: gift you this and that, and you find out like, oh,

548
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: he's not giving me real diamonds. He's giving me you know,

549
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: and it's cool, like fuck, I'll take it. Whatever. That

550
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: happened to me. And I was living in Tampa and

551
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: shout out to my guy, Jane the jeweler. He does

552
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: all russ Is jewelry. Great guy, but Jane gifted me

553
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: this giant fucking Jaine and I'm thinking, I'm rocking some

554
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: real shit. It's happened. It's happened to me. For that

555
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: ship was played as fuck and the diamonds were not real.

556
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: But if it's free, it's free. And if it looks

557
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: good on you, fucking why not. And if you and

558
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: if you get robbed, you're kind of just like take it. Yeah. No.

559
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: My boy was like he gave you that, and he

560
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: was like, let me see it. He just held it.

561
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not real. I was like, I don't

562
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: know shit about jewelry. How active do you plan on

563
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: being after now? Obviously you were talking earlier. You know,

564
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: you're used to kind of dropping yearly. Are you gonna

565
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: make fans wait a lot longer this time or no?

566
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: I think I really just it was just these kind

567
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: of like two years or that year and a half,

568
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: and I needed to take that time off to really

569
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of you know, find myself and self reflect, like

570
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: I said, But now I'm on go mode. I have

571
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: one hundred plus songs already already already planned out, ready

572
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: to come out. So I'm ready to go. And with

573
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: being independent, I kind of look back on it, I'm like,

574
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: why did I wait so long? But it's more of

575
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: a personal reason because now in this day and age especially,

576
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: you have to be consistent. You have to be ten

577
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: times more consistent than four years ago, five years ago,

578
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: six years ago. You're in competition with everyone. Now yeah

579
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: it is everybody. Everybody who has an iPhone, you're in

580
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: competition with them. And you're not only competing with with

581
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: other artists, you're competing with just attention. Yeah, I don't, bro,

582
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, bro, Like I'm a huge rap fan

583
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: and I listened to I listened to I mean, I

584
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: put in my Spotify recap I think I listened to

585
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: like twenty eight thousand minutes of music or some shit.

586
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: But Broby on podcast Dog, Yeah, Like, if I'm riding around,

587
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm usually listening to somebody talk about fucking fantasy football

588
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: or sports, or Joe Rogan talking about ayahuasca and artists

589
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: and musicians. They're in competition with Well with that shit

590
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: for sure, everything because you just need the attention. What

591
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: are you doing in your spare time these days? Like,

592
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: how do you spend time? It's funny you mention it.

593
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: I gamble a lot. I have a lot of fun

594
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: doing that. I play everything, poker, black jack, everything kind

595
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: of you know. I mean, listen, I happen to be

596
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: a degenerate. Yeah, and it's same. You say that in

597
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: a very like playful way, but oh, it's not playful.

598
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: You've probably had some terrible nights where you wanted to

599
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: fuck it. Bro I've been at the casino and I've

600
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: genuinely thought about robbing people. Yeah that's not recently, not recently,

601
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: but like ten years ago, like twelve years ago, when

602
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: I was doing radio in Vegas, and I'd be at

603
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: the fucking Mandola Bay across the street from the radio station,

604
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: I'd be down like three bands. When it's like my

605
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240
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606
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607
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Speaker 1: do you do you you play everything equally? Yeah, I

636
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: play everything kind of equally. You know. What I learned

637
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: about gambling is everything it opened my eyes to, like

638
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: not even money. But everything is relative, you know, So

639
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: when when someone loses one hundred dollars, it's like I've

640
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: seen rich people lose, you know, at a table in

641
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: an hour. I've seen them lose five hundred thousand dollars.

642
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: But everything is relative. So when you see someone rob

643
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: someone or kill someone over you know that one hundred

644
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: dollars and you're like, oh, it's just one hundred dollars.

645
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: It might have been you know everything, yeah, exactly, and

646
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: every It kind of like put everything into perspective for

647
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: me and seeing all these different walks of life, like

648
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: play with all this different type of money, and it's

649
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: opened my eyes, you know, to like to how kind

650
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: of fucked up and twisted money is, you know it.

651
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: And it made me value money a lot less, you

652
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: know how, because I used to be like, Yo, this

653
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: is what money is, what we need to survive. But

654
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: I've just seen so so many things, so many crazy

655
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: gamble there. It almost like desensitizes you to the factor

656
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: giving money. It feels like you're playing a game, yeah,

657
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: because they give you the chips and it's like this

658
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: is little chips and then you walk away, you go

659
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: you go home, and then and you're like, oh, that

660
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: shit was real moneys. Yeah. The worst is like I

661
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: have a friend who's made millions of dollars gambling, but

662
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: I've also seen it like he goes to the high

663
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: limit slots and he'll do loser. You'll do like thousand,

664
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: two thousand of fucking spin And like I've seen him

665
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: hit for like nine hundred k yeah, like one point

666
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: two million, but I also see him lose. I've also

667
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: seen him been down three hundred thousand dollars on one day,

668
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's a part of it. My god.

669
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: What is your biggest uh win in gambling and the

670
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: worst night you've ever had in terms of loss of homes.

671
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: I've had bad nights, but y'all like just little little nights.

672
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: My biggest win in gambling was about quarter million on

673
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: my birthday, And it was like, I was like, what

674
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: the hell like cause I don't really like I believe

675
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: in luck, but I believe in like like reality too,

676
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't think like you go to

677
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: Vegas and you just you're gonna win because it's your birthday.

678
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: But I won quarter million on my birthday and I'm

679
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: just like, what were you playing black blackjack? Only? Yeah?

680
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: Quarter million? That was like a slow come up now.

681
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I was like one day, you know what I mean

682
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: in terms of like you know, some some people will

683
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: sit down at a slot machine and hit a quarter

684
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: million in fucking life, oh yeah yeah, or they'll play roulette,

685
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: and you know roulette you could win fast like black

686
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: I was just slow. Yeah, it's not slow. When you're

687
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: betting five thousand, ten thousand, it's pretty fast. You'd be

688
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: there for three four hours. You either lose everything or

689
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: you win up to fifty to fifty. And I'm like,

690
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: that must have been the best birthday of your life.

691
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so crap. I was telling

692
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: my girl. I was like, this is like is this birthday?

693
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: Look like? What's going on? It was? My goodness, it

694
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: was I can't imagine a better birthday. Yeah, ever, yeah,

695
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: but then it also made me realize, like, you know,

696
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: all this money, like, uh, it's it's I don't know.

697
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't have been a fucking problem that night. Bro,

698
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: don't let me be up to fifty on my birthday

699
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: in Vegas. Be at the fun. I don't know if

700
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: you know who he is, you know Mickey, Mickey, the

701
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: dude who'll be rolling around Vegas crazy. That's my Homi.

702
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 1: He's he's like I learned from him, the real degenerate life.

703
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Like he's he's he's won millions, millions and a weekend stretch.

704
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: There is like real like strategy if you really gamble

705
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: the right way, that all it's luck base, But there

706
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: is certain things like roulette. There's certain ways you could

707
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: play exactly where you have like an advantage on the

708
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: house if you got a big enough bank roll. That's

709
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: the only the only advantage you have really in gambling.

710
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: You just have to have the bankroll, you know, don't

711
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: try to to be able to back your losses. Yeah, exactly.

712
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: So if you play, you playlet. Yeah. So have you

713
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: ever done the strategy where you bet two thirds at once? So, yeah,

714
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: the second, third, third, third, first second. Yeah, but on

715
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: the first song that's one of those two hits you're

716
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: and then if you lose, you triple each time, and

717
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: then when you eventually hit, that's like a slow, slow strategy.

718
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: You got to sit there. I like to drink, I

719
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: like to have you know. When I was living in Vegas, Yeah,

720
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. I'd go to like Fremont

721
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: Street where it was like it worked out for you mostly. Yeah,

722
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: but I'd be there for like five or six hours

723
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: and be up like four hundred bucks. But for me

724
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: at the time, I was messing year. It's yeah, it's

725
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: it's all relative. But Roulette's fun. I like to bet

726
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: on the numbers because when that shit hits you just

727
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: get high. You're like, no, that's the dopamine hit of

728
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: winning in gam is like nothing else. Yeah, and that's

729
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: why it's a problem. Like when I watch sports and

730
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of money going on a fucking

731
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: game and it's close and I win, bro, it's like

732
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: I have thirty orgasms. Yeah, no, for real, that's what.

733
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: But that's why when I problem, that's why it's addicting.

734
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm fucking sick. Oh, I've been there. I've been there. Yeah, stumbach.

735
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: So my worst gambling stretches always had to do with sports,

736
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: and it was always sports betting from my house. Yeah,

737
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I've had some rough run when I gamble, man, I

738
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: really like to just have fun. If I'm there stressing

739
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: or anything like that, it usually never works out for me.

740
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a waste when you lose, because

741
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, you didn't. So if you were up

742
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: to fifty in a night, the biggest worst night that

743
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: you've walked away, noise, nothing, nothing bad because I don't

744
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm not like doing anything crazy. Maybe you know ten

745
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: twenty thirty, I like that, but you know, everything, it

746
00:36:54,320 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of all even I'd probably be divorced. Yeah, i'd

747
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: be like, sorry, shit's uh, you know, I don't know

748
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: what happened. I was James Harden fucked up. Blaming on

749
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: the players. It's literally all I could do, right because

750
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: I lost like fifteen Christmas Week ones. Oh no, Christmas Week,

751
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: that's the one. I just blamed it on James Harden

752
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: because it was his fucking fault. That's the worst Christmas Week.

753
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: Fuck James Harden. Yeah, I love Vegas. Man. There's a

754
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: guy named Mike White from the Jets who fucking started

755
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: a game last year against the Bengals cost me ten bands.

756
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: Fuck Mike White too. Yeah, you got sports gamis fun now? Yeah,

757
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm just not too not too in the sports. I

758
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: feel like you have no control. And the other thing, too,

759
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: is like you could also bet on like these like

760
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: really zany weird like celebrity boxing matches, yeah, which I

761
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: haven't done yet. I've seen. I have not done that.

762
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: But there's like online sports books that will like take

763
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: your like blue face fight money or whatever whoever's fighting,

764
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: like yeah, and it's like those I feel like you

765
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: can kind of figure out, what do you think about

766
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: tanking Garcia? Oh? Who would win? I like Ryan Garcia. Yeah, school,

767
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I played poker with him before a couple of times. Nice,

768
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I think once something like that. Who would you take?

769
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't I don't know tang Man, but

770
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: I feel like he's just the beast. Yeah. He's also

771
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: like the kind of guy that like, I don't know, man,

772
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: some of these boxes he's he's like a fucking he's like,

773
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, he might as well be part of y

774
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Sol the way you'd be fucking acting. I like that ship.

775
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you gotta chill out. Bro, you're a

776
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: fucking professional athlete. Dog like that. Can't just be threatening.

777
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: People want to be entertained, man, I like that ship.

778
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, dog, they gonna put a rico on you. Bro,

779
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: chill out. Motherfucker's beefing with every rapper alive for I'm like, no,

780
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: why are you beefing with rappers? Yeah? People want to

781
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: be entertained, man, People like that shit. No, he's dope.

782
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: Especially this day and age, you just got to be

783
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: outlandish crazy. That's why I six ' nine had so

784
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, people want to be entertained. And still to

785
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: this day, when someone talks about six ' nine, they'll

786
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: be like Yeah, fucking they might hate him, they might

787
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: love him, but they're always gonna say, like, I miss

788
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: him all my timeline. He was entertaining why I say

789
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: this about six ' nine. Well, in general, what you

790
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: just said, the outlander shit only lasts so long. Oh,

791
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: of course, it's no longevity in that. But at least

792
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: six ' nine, who was pretty much mastered the Internet

793
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: at the time, at least he had some good records.

794
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: He did, he had some records that didn't suck. Yeah, yeah,

795
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Gamo was a joint in the club, Yeah, bangers.

796
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Even the Nikki record was fire like that. Uh what

797
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: was that shit called Kiki Kiki whatever? The fuck? Y'all know,

798
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: he'd be having all these fucking weird ass song games.

799
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: But at least he had some records to kind of

800
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: back it up. Yeah, but because it wouldn't have worked

801
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: if he didn't, he's I mean, it would have worked

802
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: momentarily super a lot more gimmicky though. Yeah, it would

803
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: have worked in the sense of like Little Pump works,

804
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I guess they probably had similar careers.

805
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, for the second time, and uh,

806
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: fuck Little Pump he put my number up on his

807
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: fucking story. Fuck him, damn because I was it because

808
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: the J cole thing. Yes, you saw that right? Yeah.

809
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, I love J cole Man, Jacob No, No,

810
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: so me and Pump we're cool. Like I've always defended

811
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: him throughout the years. Yeah, a fucking solid question. Ask.

812
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I figured this kid might have been humbled from the

813
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: last few years. Let's have like a conversation in which

814
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: he can actually kind of seem like a dude and

815
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: not like a fucking clout robot. You know that was wrong? Yeah,

816
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: hey man, some but sometimes I on that kind of subject,

817
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: like some people don't want to kind of admitt kind

818
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: of like where they're at. You know, well, dude, like

819
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, like you don't really participate in

820
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: a lot of that, and you're you have a track

821
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: record of like like, dude, you've made more money off

822
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: of rap music than ninety percent of your peers and

823
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: it's not even close. Fuck, these motherfuckers aren't getting woralty check.

824
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: It don't seem like it though. No, but they're not

825
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: getting royalty checks. Nobody's getting royalty checks. They're fucking getting

826
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: their advance and then they're parlaying that into show money

827
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck, but motherfuckers ain't getting woralty checks, right,

828
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: like Meek Mill. I think he just said his whole

829
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: career on Atlantic. I think he said, yeah, I've seen that.

830
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: It was like a wildly low amount of money for

831
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: as many records, like a million dollars or something something crazy.

832
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: I said. He asked how much Going Bad made at

833
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: like twenty five million. He's like, how much did I

834
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: make off that song? No one told him anything. I'm like, man,

835
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: so that's the problem, though, Like, that's those are the

836
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: that's label issues, right, but stay away. But this is

837
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: the thing, right, Like it's a gamble because you could

838
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: also be the guy who's independent who well, you could

839
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: be the guy who really ain't who you're. You might

840
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: be a flash in the pan and someone offers you

841
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: a two million dollar deal. Yeah you better take that. Hey,

842
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: what up, y'all? We gotta stop the interview real quick

843
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: to tell you about our folks at Hardan Las Vegas.

844
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,520
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845
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,680
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846
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,359
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847
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,640
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848
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160
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849
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,000
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850
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: about this place on the boutleg Cap podcast and they're

851
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: gonna get you hooked up with some fucking weed, all right,

852
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,200
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853
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: you're in the city of a sin or you're going,

854
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,360
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855
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,960
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856
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: get your nice fucking hardying bag full of just the

857
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: premium weed, all right. And not only that, you got

858
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,440
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859
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: gonna shoot them out though, because Harding smells the best.

860
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: The dispensary is just it's not only the best dispensary

861
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: in the world, it's the best smelling dispensary in the world.

862
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: And look now the bootleg Cat podcast smells like Hardien

863
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: because I have the Harden signature scent candle. You could

864
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Speaker 1: have one too. You could go to fucking Harding Las Vegas.

865
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: Just saying, also make sure you follow them online and

866
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: hard Dean Underscore Las Vegas. That is important. You have

867
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: to follow them because there's some bullshit accounts out there.

868
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate Hard Dean. When you're in Vegas. Pull up,

869
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: go get you some smoke, get you some edibles, Go

870
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: get you some fucking carts. Whatever it is, they got it,

871
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: and they got it at the highest quality. It's the

872
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: only place I'm smoking from. That's Hard Dean lost Vegas.

873
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the interview exactly. And that's how

874
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: people think sometimes. I think Bettle Pump did that. He

875
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: got a bag, and good for him. You gotta bet

876
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: on yourself. And when you're an artist and if it

877
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: happens quick, then I get it. But if you're if

878
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: you're building up and building up and building up and

879
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: you see it's working for you and you have a

880
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: shot and this shit, bet on yourself, man, gamble on

881
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: yourself and fucking don't take that quick money that you know,

882
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: instant gratification, build it up, keep going. It might take

883
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: five years, but where you're gonna be like like rest

884
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: these days, who like kind of like pamped the label

885
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: for two albums and then got the fuck out and

886
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: stillings his masters and now he's you know, like he

887
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: just ops a song every week or every two weeks.

888
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: It's like you just do what you want, you feed

889
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: your fans. Yeah, and that's a that's another thing. But

890
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: it's also aside from the label thing, it's not following

891
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: the trends, you know. And I don't think I don't

892
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: think he followed like super trendy, like what was going

893
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: on in the music when like when Pump was hot,

894
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: Like you know, there was a lot of people trying

895
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, coloring their dreads doing all that.

896
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: Pump was like, he's like the he's like the Cloud era,

897
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: like mascot for sure, But everybody followed his whole fucking

898
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: those three years or every four years we given like

899
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: six nine low. He followed a lot of like the

900
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: Pump ship even like oh yeah, I mean, I mean

901
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: fucking shock, you know what I'm saying. Shot shot, Yeah, value,

902
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: there was the fuck I'm not even gonna say to

903
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: do his name because I was dming with him Chief.

904
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: He set the tone for a lot of ship too.

905
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: There's there's there's a bunch of people, the Clone guy,

906
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: what's his fucking name? I was just dming with him

907
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: because he's mad that I forgot his fucking name. Clone

908
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: kid Boo, kid Boo, Yeah, shots kid Boo. I'm having

909
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: on the pop. I guess we're gonna a really honest

910
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: conversation about his whole fucking thing. But that was, like, yeah,

911
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: an egregious era of music. Oh, it was all it was.

912
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: I think they call it the SoundCloud era. SoundCloud. I

913
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: want to say Supreme pat everything was Supreme Patty got

914
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: a record deal. I think he did know Supreme Patty.

915
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Supreme Patty the lemon juice in his eyes got put

916
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: out a record that was produced by Scott storchro Wow,

917
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: shout out Scott, that's my guy. Get the bag. Yeah,

918
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure somebody gave him a deal. I

919
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: don't want to speculate on which company it was, but

920
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: let's just say it's a number. The company is named

921
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: after a number. I'm pretty sure they gave him a bag.

922
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I might be wrong, but the fact that and Supreme

923
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Patty is a nice kid. But the fact those kind

924
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: of people are getting record deals in the cloud era,

925
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: let me let me let me say this man, the industry,

926
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: these labels, it's it's like at first, it was like embarrassing,

927
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: but they tried to hide it. Now they just don't

928
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: have any pride, Like they're like, fuck it, we're already embarrassed.

929
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: They just did the fake crypto rapper. Yeah, they're like,

930
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: we're already fucking losing. We're just gonna fucking go all out.

931
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: You know how when someone just gets super desperate to

932
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: fucking just start doing ship and they're fucking you're just like, dude,

933
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: you don't have no fucking shame. I feel like right now,

934
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: that's where we're at with fucking labels. They're just like, Oh,

935
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: he has a fucking hot TikTok five second slippe, like

936
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: we need him, we need him. It's just it's embarrassing

937
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: that fake AI rapper that Capital signed and then dropped

938
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: within five days because of the outrage. What was the

939
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: name of that fucking you know what I'm talking about?

940
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: There was like this meta rapper who was like a

941
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: oh my bad, so what I'm but it was like

942
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: a fake rapper right that they made on the metaverse

943
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: and fn Mecca right, so that dude, well, it's not

944
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: a dude. It's a fucking like an avatar that was

945
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: like saying the N word in its music and like

946
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: I never heard it. I'm I'm surprised I never heard

947
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: of bro. It was all over the place for about

948
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: two weeks, but so so Capital announced that they signed

949
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: the first ever AI rapper, right. But then once you

950
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: dive into it, you're like, oh, this is just kind

951
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: of like a lot of black stereotypes. And the people

952
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: behind it, from what I understand, you would know more

953
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: than me because she worked with I'm not sure that

954
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: the person who created it was black. Am I tripping

955
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: the guy behind the exactly right, right, So it was

956
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: almost like the Milli Vanilli thing, but with like a cartoon, right,

957
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: and it was just like it was the cringiest ship

958
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: I seen what I think. What I think is labels

959
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: and all these things they want like instant gratification kind

960
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: of thing, like they don't value longevity anymore. They don't

961
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: value good music or just artist development, yeah, or artists development.

962
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: But then I get it, because so much shit's going on,

963
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: they just want to grab, you know, grab whatever's coming

964
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: to the numbers game. Man, I'll sign a fifty acts

965
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: and hope one of them becomes a weekend Yeah, But

966
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: the independent artists like me and and you know all

967
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: these other artists that are doing it. The right way.

968
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: We're we're playing the real numbers game. We're trying to

969
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: make We're trying to be here for twenty years. What's

970
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: your distro is? Are you doing like distro caunidation? Oh

971
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: you do for Shout out my guy Lee. Yeah, shout

972
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: out Lee Lee. When I was when I was on

973
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: when I was on Warner, Lee was the radio guy

974
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: at Warner, of course he was. Yeah, shouts to Lee.

975
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: He just announced today he's got he's got a big,

976
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: big thing coming. Shout out to my guy Lee. What

977
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: is he doing? What is he doing? He just left?

978
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he announced that today. So he's going to Uh, well,

979
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: I can't say he's going. Yeah, my distribution Foundation is done.

980
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: I want to say more for me than any well

981
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: then Warner than you know, and Warner had my masters

982
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: and now I'm just doing Lease great guy man. Yeah.

983
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: Foundation is a great company. Yeah, amazing. And the one

984
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: thing about Foundations, you could just call Lee and be like, Ao,

985
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to drop some ship tomorrow, and who's good.

986
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: Let me call the stories. We'll figure it out. Yeah,

987
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: let's do it. Shout out to Hey, that's dope. I

988
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: didn't know you were on the Foundation. That makes sense though. Yeah,

989
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: I've been with them for about two years. I did

990
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: my last project with them too, it makes sense, and

991
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: that last project was did Numbers Bro. You were on

992
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: hell A Playlist and that's in Foundation helped with that.

993
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: Feel like a couple of years ago you were. I

994
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: felt like I was like Forest kind of hanging out

995
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: with some of these industrydutions a little. I gotta try

996
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: to pull them back in a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

997
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: I almost got pulled back into I was like, oh,

998
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: there were certain people mentioning you to me that. I

999
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you like seven figure deals on the table.

1000
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: I bet you did. I might need this right now,

1001
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: like I bet you did. But when it comes to

1002
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: building catalog, you gotta really, you gotta you got to

1003
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: bite the bullet and think long term, right, you know,

1004
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: especially for me. For me, if I if I only

1005
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: made music for two years and I have a seven

1006
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: figure deal on the table, I'm like, let me take it,

1007
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: you know. But now I'm kind of like, man, I've

1008
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: had this seven figure deal to that include your independent catalog. No, okay,

1009
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: well then that's that's different because you know a lot

1010
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: of that's what they're doing now. They're like, we want

1011
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: to roll up your whole ship. Everyone wants catalogs now,

1012
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: everyone for sure. But but yeah, I was like, I

1013
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: have songs that are already making second seven figures. I

1014
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: have songs that are you know, not albums, just singles

1015
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: that already did seven figures. Like I just need to

1016
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: push another one or two of those out. I don't

1017
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: need to sign for four albums, sign for three albums

1018
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: with you for saying like you have like a lot

1019
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: of dude, I mean fucking you got songs with people

1020
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: that the fact that you were able to have a

1021
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Kailani and Janet feature on an independent project and like,

1022
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: you know, that's a big deal man. That says a

1023
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: lot about your relationships that you built over the years. Yeah,

1024
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: and it takes, it takes grind, it takes hard working,

1025
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: especially artists of that statue. Well, those are also the

1026
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: type of artists that have high artistic integrities going to

1027
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: don't want to work with someone and you can make

1028
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: the greatest music, but they don't want to work with

1029
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: you if you have any you know, they also like

1030
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: art the time. I'm assuming like you just can't pay

1031
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: for like features from some of these artists oh no,

1032
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, they gotta love this song, got to be great.

1033
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: It has to be something that's like, yeah, I'm gonna

1034
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: do it. And most of the time, you know, those

1035
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: are artists that will really just get in there and

1036
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: just do it and create because they love music. It's

1037
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: way I'm in. It's weird because I'm in both industries.

1038
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: You know, I'm in the R and B and I'm

1039
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: in the rap, and I see the difference. I feel

1040
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: like the R and B side they really appreciate music

1041
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: a lot more and they're less of like trying to

1042
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,759
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1043
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1044
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1045
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1046
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1047
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1048
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1049
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1050
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1051
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1052
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1056
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1057
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1059
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1060
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1061
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1062
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1065
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1066
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1075
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1076
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Speaker 1: So the album is out, not a lot of features you,

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00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: No Sky and garyn Yeah, Garan Sky my girl she

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00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: did amazing. That's your girl, that's her girl. Yeah, just

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00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: in the studio vibing or artists first, did you like

1118
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: say hey try this? Yeah? No, she she she showed

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00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: me stuff like when we met. She showed me, like,

1120
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1121
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Speaker 1: you're really good. She's like like I just did a

1122
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: fun type thing. I'm like, but you know, just get

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Speaker 1: drunk in the studio and just vibe and have a

1124
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: good time and whatever happens, whatever we create and feel

1125
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: good about. We just kind of put together like that.

1126
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, she's she's amazing and talented, and yeah, I

1127
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: don't want to make it work. Man, if you put

1128
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Speaker 1: her on your album, I know, right, that's what One

1129
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: of the songs with her goes like double platinum, right,

1130
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: and then you have to perform it and you guys

1131
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: break up. Like, I feel so bad for our good

1132
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: friend Gezy because I me, man, that's my god, not

1133
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: me myself, and I the fucking him and I and

1134
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: that record is a smash. He has to perform the song,

1135
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: but it's him and his axe talking about each other.

1136
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: But you know record, I think, I think, and this

1137
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: is kind of how I see it too, like like

1138
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: once again, like whatever happens happens, and life can lead

1139
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: you in a million different ways. But I've seen him.

1140
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: I've seen him perform it without her after the whole

1141
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: thing too. And and I think, you know, as when

1142
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: you grow, when you get older as adults, you kind

1143
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: of just accept certain things and you realize, like, you

1144
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: know what, this was a beautiful thing at the time.

1145
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: This was a beautiful moment at the time, and I'm

1146
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: still going to respect that instead of letting that eat

1147
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: away at me or become bitter about it. What was

1148
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: it like touring with him? Oh, man maniac ship Right, Yeah,

1149
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: let's let's just say it was fun. They set up

1150
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: like the little pre party and after party, little section

1151
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: still house. Yeah, Vibes. Trippy was on that tour too

1152
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: with us Me Me Gazy and Trippy. Yeah, We're had

1153
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: it a lot of real debauch. Yeah, yeah, I think

1154
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: I might have signed a contract. I cannot say. I

1155
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: can't say anything. I didn't sign ship, but some of

1156
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: the fast nights of my life for that crazy white man. Yeah,

1157
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: it was fun. Man. Jeez is an amazing dude. Man,

1158
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: Tippy has fucking seen a lot of success bringing that

1159
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: fucking Cinnamon Apple, fucking Still House House and the Mint Stillhouse.

1160
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: By the way, he's not with Steel House anymore from

1161
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: what I hear from what he told me actually, so

1162
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Well look, man, I appreciate you pulling up

1163
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: Go Sport the new album Butterfly Effect. It's out, yes, sir,

1164
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: more than music on the way anything else. Is the

1165
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: clothing line still booming obviously, Yeah, man, we're re rebranding

1166
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: the clothing line. I had some I just had some

1167
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: internal kind of things, conflicts and stuff like that where

1168
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: I had with you know, people I trusted and people

1169
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: that didn't really you know, suit what I was going

1170
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: through and you know, my views on things. But I

1171
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: stepped I had to step in and kind of control

1172
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: everything and rebuild it the way I wanted it to be.

1173
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: But just so much shit. I spent so much time

1174
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: on the brand, and I think, uh yeah, just bringing

1175
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: in people that you know, weren't really good for me

1176
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you know, being able to trust people.

1177
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: I trusted people that maybe I shouldn't have or put

1178
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: too much trust into people. I'm gonna be honest, bro,

1179
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: I've met two or three random dudes that they were

1180
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: your manager of the last like three years for sure,

1181
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know if

1182
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm the problem. I don't know if like very random dudes, yeah,

1183
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: R'd be like, oh yeah, that's the homie hit me yeah,

1184
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: and then I give them my number and then they

1185
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: just keep hitting me on some like hey, yo, it's

1186
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: for as manager. And I'm like, bro, the industry, I mean,

1187
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Speaker 1: you know, but it's it's crazy. You just got to

1188
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: be careful. We keep around you, bro, right. And I'm

1189
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: learning that because I usually because I move with good

1190
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Speaker 1: intentions and I expect the same of others and I

1191
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: think the same of others. But it's not always like that.

1192
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: You know how many people have like for or Yours

1193
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: Truly tattoos? Too many? We're looking at pictures the other

1194
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: day it's straight like my face, you know, my whole

1195
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: like from Upper Torso just tattooed, Like it's crazy. It's crazy.

1196
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: The Yours Truly logo too, like it's it's insane, man.

1197
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: Every time I see it. If someone gets your face

1198
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: tattooed on them, is there a benefit that comes? That's

1199
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, you're not a direct benefit,

1200
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Speaker 1: but if I see it, I'm just like, I'm gonna

1201
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Speaker 1: remember them forever, right, you know, if I like to

1202
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Speaker 1: get into the show, not like that. If you know,

1203
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Speaker 1: and even people that don't have you know, my face

1204
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: or my name tattooed, like I connect with my fans

1205
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: group chats, you know, Instagram. If someone's like, yo, I

1206
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: got your name tattooed. Me and my sister and me

1207
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: and my cousin want to get in, Like, I'm like, yo,

1208
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: I'll put you on the guest list easier. I want

1209
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: everyone at my shows. I don't. I'm not like, oh,

1210
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: fucking you have to pay the fifteen. If it gets

1211
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Speaker 1: out of hand and you end up like you know,

1212
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: like Tech nine and Strange Music, where like all their

1213
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: fans have like some sort of tattoo, You're not fucking

1214
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: making any money on the road. But that's where you

1215
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 1: want to get man, because it's not about ticket sales

1216
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: or album sales. It's about people. You want to touch

1217
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: the people yeah, and that someone tattooed forever. You know,

1218
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: they're they're a fan of you forever, you know. Yeah,

1219
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: I've seen that work the bad way too, with ICP tattoos.

1220
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the hatchet Man. Yeah, they're crazy. Yeah, Juggalo

1221
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: Juggolo vibes. Yeah, there's like fifty year old dudes teaching

1222
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: fucking seventh grade that were ex Juggalos. Nice and they'll

1223
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: never be able to get rid of it. I have

1224
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: you've been to the Gathering of the Juggalos. I actually was.

1225
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: I've never been, but they tried to book me to

1226
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: do something there in like twenty fifteen, and I was like,

1227
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: once you go Juggalo, you never go. Yeah, I want

1228
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: to go. I would love to. I think they get

1229
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: a I think they get a bad, bad rap because

1230
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: I think they're really like good people. I've seen a

1231
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of like videos and stuff on like Gathering of

1232
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: the Juggalos, and they're really their whole model and their

1233
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: whole thing is like family for sure, you know. And

1234
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: I love that it's like a cult kind of thing.

1235
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: And it looks fun. Yeah, it looks like white Latino.

1236
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: There's a fun hut there. Yeah, it's crazy and people

1237
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: it's like a it's an open, free environment. There's a

1238
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: drug bridge. Have you heard about the drug bridge? No,

1239
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: but so they got a bridge, sounds like, and you

1240
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: go to the bridge. Yeah, and it's anything you want, man,

1241
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: but it's I I gotta give my respects to those

1242
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: people because for sure, for sure, you know, shout out

1243
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: to the Juggalos. I'm for Phoenix. We got none but

1244
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: Juggalos there, but they got it. I heard. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is my boy, jelly Roll told me. Jelly rolls

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Speaker 1: like jelly Roll. Yeah, He's like, bro, they got a

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Speaker 1: fucking tent there. That's just you just go in and

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Speaker 1: everyone's fucking and he's like, bro, but it's like the

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Speaker 1: type of people you don't want to see fucking He's like, bro,

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Speaker 1: they look like me, broy, Man, everyone needs someone. The

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Speaker 1: stench in that motherfucker is crazy. Everyone needs someone. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine? Like Juggalos don't have the highest personal hygiene.

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Speaker 1: Based on my experience with them over the years, and

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Speaker 1: I've had vast experience with them, I've been to some

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Speaker 1: ICP shows that whole c P, cotton Mouth Kings, Strange Music,

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Speaker 1: fucking yeah, yeah, shout out. There were guys yeah, good people.

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Speaker 1: They just misunderstood. Let's call them misunderstood. Did you grow

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Speaker 1: up like you grew up in Cali? Where the cotton

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Speaker 1: Mouth Kings popping? I mean, I don't know. They might

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Speaker 1: have been done from Anaheim. They're from Riverside? Are they from?

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Speaker 1: They were OC guys. I mean maybe some might have

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Speaker 1: came from OC. But I think there's seven then, I E.

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Speaker 1: Thing the hot, the high white socks, a little spade socks,

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Speaker 1: and the big monster trucks. Cotton Mouth Kings. Yeah that's

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Speaker 1: r H. Yeah, stoner's weak ston it Yeah, yeah, look

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Speaker 1: at us all right, shout out to the I E.

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Speaker 1: That's what I man. Appreciate you pulling up, brother, Yes,

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Speaker 1: sir fire